There was no miracle conception given as a sign to king AHAZ in Isaiah 7. And the virgin daughter of Zion is not a woman named Mary. The whole story is a corruption.
Isiah 7:14-16. 14.Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 15 He shall eat curds and honey when he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. 16 For before the boy knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land whose two kings you dread will be deserted. So if this is a dual prophecy than that means a virgin bore a child in Isiah time also.. if that is true how can Jesus be the only begotten son.. if this lady was a virgin in Isaiah time how could she have a son without God impregnating her like Mary.. If that’s the case than there were 2 people born of God and what ever is said of Jesus should pertain the the child in Isaiah.. If I am wrong than someone explain the 2 virgin births
Ok dual prophecy is a joke. In the “OT” it means a handmaiden. And now in the “NT” it’s changed to a “virgin” (meaning had no sex). Sorry that’s changing scripture. It was a sign for Ahaz. We must be true to what the word says and not what men try to make up. Like the trinity. Yhwh help us.
The spirit can cleanse any vessel that sets themselves apart from what is called unclean by God the father. From this point he may annoint that vessel for his chosen work. Born in sin is meaningless in this case and immaculate conceptions and virgin births are obselete and meaningless in the face of Gods will. When he pours his holy spirit on obedient human beings he cleanses, annointing them for purpose. What God has cleansed let no man call unclean.
What does sin nature even mean? If Jesus had no inclination towards sin how could he understand our struggle and be a high priest that is touched by our infirmities? how could he be tempted to do evil?
The idea of a Virgin Birth was very popular in many mythologies in that time period and for about 2,000 years before. There were many variations and they were very popular among the illiterate masses and passed down through the generations by storytellers throughout the Middle East. The more popular stories brought in the most donations to the storytellers of grain, a dove, or if lucky a few coins. So naturally it was no surprise that after Jesus was killed that the early Christian writers decided to make up their own version of that popular Virgin Birth theme. It would have been a miracle if they didn't actually! We see that during the first few decades the writers made up many hundreds of letters and manuscripts with different story ideas about Jesus and the variations of early Christian beliefs, many of which we still have copies of. History tells us that it took the early Church fathers nearly 200 years to sort out which of the 'divinely inspired' writings to keep for Bible Canon, and which 'divinely inspired' writings to throw in the garbage and condemn as heresy if it did not fit their business agenda. Much squabbling occurred between different groups withing early Christianity and early Catholicism until in the 4th century they finally OFFICIALLY set the current books for Bible Canon. Well, almost all, since they did squeeze in the Book of Revelation in the early 5th century even though it had been condemned by many as the ravings of madman. The Catholics thought it would be a good money maker for drawing in the crowds to fill the pews. And they were right. And today we see that the Christianity Business has become a multi billion dollar world-wide operation. It's in a steady decline in the West as education levels have been rising, but it's doing fine in Africa, and now trying to set up shop in China, and other Asian customer markets. They have a good foothold the Philippines but Islam is expanding quickly from Indonesia. The early History of where the Bible tales came from, who actually wrote them and why, and the long process of how the actual books of the Bible came to be as we see them today, is well worth learning about for those who seek truth. peace
Not all of Adams children were or are children of wrath this is not scriptural at all. We all must be born a second time from above. Born of the spirit to become children of God. Sin nature we are born in is irrelevant after this because it supposed to stay dead.
Here's the issue as I see it The Hebrew word אלמה actually means maiden. The Hebrew word for virgin is הטול. We then have the Greek translation parthéna, which could mean virgin - but could also mean maiden. We then have the English translations that all seem to have settled on virgin. Sometimes, 'wondering words' is just a biproduct of translating text. However, English has a word (maiden) that better fits the original - yet they have settled on virgin? why?
Also, it shows the unity of religion. Both Islam (609) & the Baha'i Faith (1844) confirm the miraculous Birth of Jesus through the Holy Spirit. "In the Qur'án it is said: "And We sent Our Spirit unto her, and He appeared unto her in the shape of a perfect man," meaning that the Holy Spirit took the likeness of the human form, as an image is produced in a mirror...." ~ `Abdu'l-Bahá, Baha'i Faith
Hebrew authors wrote that no Man can die for another man's sin every man dies for their own sin, but YeHoVaH God is good and prefer they repent and live no blood sacrifice required! There was no god formed before me and no god formed after me! YeHoVaH is God and its YeHoVaH that every knee shall bow too and every tongue confess!
No please don’t say that, you will throw a stick in their well oiled “New Testament” which can contradict the scriptures and get away with it. Again a man is responsible for his own sin. And now the one true Yah accepts a human sacrifice for our sins. Straight blasphemy!!! Yhwh help us.
Jesus Christ was never tempted in the desert for 40 days another catholic invention like the virgin birth story, the most accurate Gospel of John never mentions it, Holy Jesus is Baptized and within 2 days journeys to Cana for the wedding with some Apostles, God cannot be tempted
YAHUSHA HaMashiach (Jesus Christ) told us everything about HIMSELF. HE never once said that HE was born of a woman without an earthy father. Or that HE did not come from the loin's or seed (semen) of a man. HE never even eluded to any of the sort. As a matter of fact this can only be traced back to the start of Constantine and the Roman Catholic Church. This was never a thing of the story's of the Holy Scriptures/Bible. If you except this doctrine of devil's (deceiver's) then you have expected another gospel, and it's hard to understand how when you've been shown the truth, you still can not hear, see, conceive or except the truth, as it is written in YAH'S (GOD'S) WORDS right before your very eyes, "I marvel" Galatians 1:6-9 kjv 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
But if we inherited sin from Adam, wouldn't Mary also come from Adam? Shouldn't she inherit sin too?
Who is Adam?
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Please tell me... How can someone or something be 100% of two different things?
There was no miracle conception given as a sign to king AHAZ in Isaiah 7. And the virgin daughter of Zion is not a woman named Mary. The whole story is a corruption.
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Real truth, real quick, really excellent!
TRUTH is still TRUTH whether you BELIEVE it or not, it doesn't change because you don't agree with it...
Never happened just like it didn't happen in Isaiah 7 as a sign to king Ahaz.
The wages of sin is death. Not 3 days of death. Cmon people.
Isiah 7:14-16. 14.Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 15 He shall eat curds and honey when he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. 16 For before the boy knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land whose two kings you dread will be deserted.
So if this is a dual prophecy than that means a virgin bore a child in Isiah time also.. if that is true how can Jesus be the only begotten son.. if this lady was a virgin in Isaiah time how could she have a son without God impregnating her like Mary..
If that’s the case than there were 2 people born of God and what ever is said of Jesus should pertain the the child in Isaiah..
If I am wrong than someone explain the 2 virgin births
Ok dual prophecy is a joke. In the “OT” it means a handmaiden. And now in the “NT” it’s changed to a “virgin” (meaning had no sex). Sorry that’s changing scripture. It was a sign for Ahaz. We must be true to what the word says and not what men try to make up. Like the trinity. Yhwh help us.
They mistranslated Alma to virgin but bethula is the only biblical Hebrew word for virgin and its not in that passage dear one
these people are actually total utter lunatics. mad as hatters... I cant believe people fall for this rubbish.
The spirit can cleanse any vessel that sets themselves apart from what is called unclean by God the father. From this point he may annoint that vessel for his chosen work. Born in sin is meaningless in this case and immaculate conceptions and virgin births are obselete and meaningless in the face of Gods will. When he pours his holy spirit on obedient human beings he cleanses, annointing them for purpose. What God has cleansed let no man call unclean.
What does sin nature even mean? If Jesus had no inclination towards sin how could he understand our struggle and be a high priest that is touched by our infirmities? how could he be tempted to do evil?
The idea of a Virgin Birth was very popular in many mythologies in that time period and for about 2,000 years before. There were many variations and they were very popular among the illiterate masses and passed down through the generations by storytellers throughout the Middle East. The more popular stories brought in the most donations to the storytellers of grain, a dove, or if lucky a few coins. So naturally it was no surprise that after Jesus was killed that the early Christian writers decided to make up their own version of that popular Virgin Birth theme. It would have been a miracle if they didn't actually! We see that during the first few decades the writers made up many hundreds of letters and manuscripts with different story ideas about Jesus and the variations of early Christian beliefs, many of which we still have copies of. History tells us that it took the early Church fathers nearly 200 years to sort out which of the 'divinely inspired' writings to keep for Bible Canon, and which 'divinely inspired' writings to throw in the garbage and condemn as heresy if it did not fit their business agenda. Much squabbling occurred between different groups withing early Christianity and early Catholicism until in the 4th century they finally OFFICIALLY set the current books for Bible Canon. Well, almost all, since they did squeeze in the Book of Revelation in the early 5th century even though it had been condemned by many as the ravings of madman. The Catholics thought it would be a good money maker for drawing in the crowds to fill the pews. And they were right. And today we see that the Christianity Business has become a multi billion dollar world-wide operation. It's in a steady decline in the West as education levels have been rising, but it's doing fine in Africa, and now trying to set up shop in China, and other Asian customer markets. They have a good foothold the Philippines but Islam is expanding quickly from Indonesia. The early History of where the Bible tales came from, who actually wrote them and why, and the long process of how the actual books of the Bible came to be as we see them today, is well worth learning about for those who seek truth. peace
TRUTH is still TRUTH whether you BELIEVE it or not, it doesn't change because you say it isn't.
Every baby is born “supernaturally” 😁😉
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Not all of Adams children were or are children of wrath this is not scriptural at all. We all must be born a second time from above. Born of the spirit to become children of God. Sin nature we are born in is irrelevant after this because it supposed to stay dead.
Weird. It's like you think "sin nature" actually occurs in the bible. Who says anyone has to pay for anyone's sins? What verse are you talking about?
Here's the issue as I see it
The Hebrew word אלמה actually means maiden. The Hebrew word for virgin is הטול.
We then have the Greek translation parthéna, which could mean virgin - but could also mean maiden.
We then have the English translations that all seem to have settled on virgin.
Sometimes, 'wondering words' is just a biproduct of translating text. However, English has a word (maiden) that better fits the original - yet they have settled on virgin? why?
The only biblical Hebrew word for virgin is bethula
@@dforsman1000 ... not sure how I managed to write that so incorrectly
Obviously a completely brain fail, and you are correct
Amen. The virgin birth was a supernatural delivery. Thank you.
Every baby is born “supernaturally” 😁😉
Also, it shows the unity of religion. Both Islam (609) & the Baha'i Faith (1844) confirm the miraculous Birth of Jesus through the Holy Spirit. "In the Qur'án it is said: "And We sent Our Spirit unto her, and He appeared unto her in the shape of a perfect man," meaning that the Holy Spirit took the likeness of the human form, as an image is produced in a mirror...." ~ `Abdu'l-Bahá, Baha'i Faith
Hebrew authors wrote that no Man can die for another man's sin every man dies for their own sin, but YeHoVaH God is good and prefer they repent and live no blood sacrifice required! There was no god formed before me and no god formed after me! YeHoVaH is God and its YeHoVaH that every knee shall bow too and every tongue confess!
No please don’t say that, you will throw a stick in their well oiled “New Testament” which can contradict the scriptures and get away with it. Again a man is responsible for his own sin. And now the one true Yah accepts a human sacrifice for our sins. Straight blasphemy!!! Yhwh help us.
Jesus Christ was never tempted in the desert for 40 days another catholic invention like the virgin birth story, the most accurate Gospel of John never mentions it, Holy Jesus is Baptized and within 2 days journeys to Cana for the wedding with some Apostles, God cannot be tempted
YAHUSHA HaMashiach (Jesus Christ) told us everything about HIMSELF. HE never once said that HE was born of a woman without an earthy father. Or that HE did not come from the loin's or seed (semen) of a man. HE never even eluded to any of the sort. As a matter of fact this can only be traced back to the start of Constantine and the Roman Catholic Church. This was never a thing of the story's of the Holy Scriptures/Bible. If you except this doctrine of devil's (deceiver's) then you have expected another gospel, and it's hard to understand how when you've been shown the truth, you still can not hear, see, conceive or except the truth, as it is written in YAH'S (GOD'S) WORDS right before your very eyes, "I marvel"
Galatians 1:6-9 kjv
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Lie lie lie
Hebrew never use parthinos
The true that jews people call jesus
Jesus son of panthera not parthenon