It seems that when this question comes up, everyone "assumes" that the individual is acting upon their sexual urges. Being gay and abstinent is no different than being straight and abstinent....
I'm a gay Christian and I believe that living abstinent is the right thing for myself. We aren't homophobic we just believe truth doesn't have an expiration date. Feelings and philosophy die but truth never will
how about this; love is love can apply to incest. "Between two consentual adults" can also apply to incest. Your excuses and your reasons for why homosexuaity is okay apply to other perversions that you would (hopefully) say are not okay. I can't think of any other excuse homosexuals use, other than "I was born this way," to which I would say, "I am born this way too." I was born with lust also. Doesn't mean I should go around having sex with whatever guy I find attractive.
Ok I'm just gonna say something here. I'm a Christian, let me get that out I used to think I was bi, which was when I was backslid I condemned myself back then, believing the lies of homophobic people. But then, God called me to Himself, away from condemnation, away from all the self pity and sadness. Yes, I still experience a bit of attraction towards girls. But now, it's not I-want-to-marry-you-and-have kids-with-you kind of attraction. It is that girl is pretty, she's beautiful. Just like God made her. See now, it is not that I agree with homophobia, in fact I say a huge NO-NO to it. A lot of people would go ahead and say just cause you don't support my way of life means you hate me. But no it doesn't. I have no reason to hate you, I am literally as bad, sinful, disgusting, immoral as you are. We are both filth, waddling in filth. No one is more clean. I am sinner, you are a sinner. Now I have seen alot of the comments in the section, and it's just "woah". Enough said. Main point is, I've been on both sides of the wall, we can all get over, no matter what you identify as. Just cause I don't agree with you doesn't mean I hate you. (I know this is a terrible analogy, but bear with me) If everyone thought whoever disagreed with them, hated them, no one would have friends, there's always going to be something there that they don't agree on. And also, stop, just STOP making homosexuality and LGBTQ+ sexuality bigger than it is, what I mean is, it is sin just as it is sin to steal, just as it is sin to be gluttonous. Yes, I may have sounded a bit off in that last statement, but I couldn't get better words, again, bear with me. We are all in a fallen world, I'm proof that we can all change, God can change more in five seconds than you can doubt that change in five years. So friends, let's be friends. Jesus ate with sinners, He wasn't a sinner, I am, but you know, I'm meant to show love to all. Not hate a single one. Edit: kinda still AM bi, but I'm not a practicing bisexual. I live and will continue to live as, a heterosexual
Judgement Day is going to be one heck of a knee slapper; So many people assuming they can lecture GOD on morality and sin. Pull up the popcorn, grab a chair, and shout praises to the Lord! Isaiah 5:20 (KJV) "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
Haha, it’s always funny how long you people wait for your imaginary God(s) to come and show us the error of our ways. But keep on waiting fool, because religion will soon die out for good and the evil that is religion will finally cease to exist and we can get on we the progress of science!
I really appreciate the personal examples of brokenness in personality. I'm a gay Christian wrestling a lot with these issues, and I hear a lot of Christians say they don't think they're better than queer people, but the humility to actually confess those deep-seated things makes a big difference
At least you are an honest atheist! 😆. There are some things that science can't explain. The transition from non life to life is one. For years I was stuck in the 4 walks of religion and it stinks. I watched a video called The Last Reformation. I went out and did the same things and saw the same results. People got supernaturally healed on the spot. The dynamics changed from a religious form to a living experience.
waldo lol okay but last time I checked when I was four I made my barbies gay and I didn’t choose to do that lol. I couldn’t force myself to like men if I wanted to. You’re brainwashed and toxic.
@@mrpatrickstar16 Jesus was way cool Everybody liked Jesus Everybody wanted to hang out with him Anything he wanted to do, he did He turned water into wine And if he wanted to He could have turned wheat into marijuana Or sugar into cocaine Or vitamin pills into amphetamines He walked on the water And swam on the land He would tell these stories And people would listen He was really cool If you were blind or lame You just went to Jesus And he would put his hands on you And you would be healed That's so cool He could've played guitar better than Hendrix He could've told the future He could've baked the most delicious cake in the world He could've scored more goals than Wayne Gretzky He could've danced better than Barishnikov Jesus could have been funnier than any comedian you can think of Jesus was way cool He told people to eat his body and drink his blood That's so cool Jesus was so cool But then some people got jealous of how cool he was So they killed him But then he rose from the dead He rose from the dead, danced around Then went up to heaven I mean, that's so cool Jesus was way cool No wonder there are so many Christians
@Fat kid Productions ““In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him.” John 1:1-7 ESV www.bible.com/59/jhn.1.1-7.esv” He can heal all your brokenness my dude. All the confusion. In jesus name. i had identity issues and He has healed me. He loves u bruh! He doesnt want u to suffer and He sees ur suffering- that was intended. but it was the result of the fall of humanity. (Adam and Eve) He loves u dearly. He has felt all the emotions u have too for He experienced it himself. that is why He died for u. To take ur burdens so u wouldnt have to... our own creator sacrificing himself for his own children. He yells, “I LOVE YOU!” to you. even if u dont love him back. JOHN 1:10-11 (if ur interested or doubting in Him read the word or ask him to come into ur heart. all u need is to believe jesus is lord and savior and that he died and was risen back from the dead!) “*in the world he was, and the world through him was made, and the world did not know him: He came unto his own, and his own received him not.* if u ever want to truly accept Him and believe in Him and accept His free gift of love for u! Here u go. m.th-cam.com/video/vHnzVaJg68o/w-d-xo.html u seem like a cool artist who expresses bruh!An artist makes art and their art is their treasure and doesnt want bad to happen to them. but the paper has to be willing. Once i thought he was careless about his own creation. but thats not what an artist does. havent u thought about how we are like the art; His art and He is like the artist? Wouldnt He treat us kind, truly love Him as he loves us? He is the same God Who says “LOVE ENEMIES” !! hes a God of Love. “We love because he first loved us.” 1 john 14:19
He created love so He knows what true love is. He is like a father to his son or daughter who is about to fall off a cliff. He restricts us from things becoz he knows itll make us fall❤️😭. He is the same God Who says “LOVE ENEMIES” !! hes a God of Love. “We love because he first loved us.” 1 john 14:19
The 10 commandments don’t say anything about homosexuality. The passages in the Bible that address homosexuality are man’s interpretation or surmising of what God wants. This does not make homosexual acts moral. Being homosexual is not a sin. Homosexual acts are.
I like how people genuinely forget about other real reasons for going to hell other than being LGBT. Like people ...being gay or whatever, I still have other mistakes.
@@Senior1650 holds up Leviticus 20:13 in the greek interliner with the greek translation. And Genesis where God make man and wife. Holds up Matthew 19 where Jesus speaks of marriage. Holds up Ephesians 5 where Paul speaks of the roles of man and wife in marriage (not husband and husband)
@@SG-ji2xk 😂😂😭. Thank you for giving your opinion on the matter. But, no I won't keep my religion to myself. Seeing as we have free speech and I can speak as I please. And I do have a life! 🙂🙂
My question as a Christian ...what if you were born with those feelings and dont wanna be alone your entire life?...i cant understand why would god being all loving understanding throw me into hell for wanting to love someone? The heart wants it but you cant have it
whatroads4x4 What is terrible is being unable to love. That's what. I can't follow a god who doesn't care how kind you were, what you did, who you helped, the final thing that makes him judge you is the gender of who you love. Yeah, no thanks. You can do what you like but I'm not going to shut the door in love's face just because a dusty old book says so. 👍🏻
whatroads4x4 I will live my life being a good person because it's *right.* Not to invited to some celestial being's palace. And if God seems to think that makes me unworthy? I don't give a shit.
@J. Russell fuck off preach the bible properly or don't use it words times have moved on you can't live in todays society and follow a book written thousands of years ago. Question for you as well homosexuality wasn't acknowledged at the time so how would they write about how wrong it was. Logic flawed. I've done my research and there's nothing in the bible. You are just listening to what you want to. There's a bit in the bible wheres its been mistranslated its ment to say "man shall not sleep with boy" meaning pedophilia except its been translated to "man shall not sleep with man" that translation was created in 1940's to 1950's. So know I urge you to stop using the bible as your excuse for homophobia.
• Moonlight • stop blaming God. I like pizza because i like the taste of it, God did not put that in my heart it’s my choice to like it deliberately because of my experience tasting it throughout my life.
• Moonlight • even if you didn’t choose to be gay, the reason you are gay is because you kept identifying yourself to be gay with what you feel, watch, see, listen, and do. meaning you’re outer environment kept conditioning your mind to identify as “gay” and so on you call it “yourself” it’s not wrong, not your fault, and it is certainly NOT Gods fault. If you want change talk to God. If you just want to embrace “who you are” then that’s up to you.
So someone who feels homosexual attractions isn't allowed to act on it? If you're a man attracted to a woman, you can take her out and date her but if you're a man attracted to a man you can't? It's the same thing.
hydrate your soul sis. Sis. SIS. Being gay is natural, it’s in many animals and homophobia is only in humans. Technically you homophobes are the unnatural ones here.
@@Reon58 Yeah. For example: In God's perfect creation, there was no pain death or suffering. Humans didn't have to kill animals to sustain themselves because God provided the garden. Animals did the same. When sin entered our world, so did the pain, death and suffering. Now, predetors kill their prey, bacteria infects and kills, animals have limited life spans, disease affects them as well as us, forests have been deforested, animal species have gone extinct, animals are born with disabilities. Sin not only affected us but the world around us as well.
How can you judge something you’ve created and their feelings that they were born with? i don’t understand, sexuality isn’t a choice. So god made gay people to live worse because they can’t go with what they actually wanna do sexually? crazy
All these arguments just boils down to this: God says so. Then it doesn't matter if what God says is rational or not. its a belief based on faith not reason.
You aren't born with gay genes, you choose to be a gay. You aren't born with it, I'm Ex homosexual, and it's really a choice, and even if you are born with it, that's the reason God said to be born again.
@@stardust6745 It is a choice wheter you engage in same-sex behaviour or not - yes. But sexuality itself is based on genetics and no conversion theraphy can change this. Similarly, you can't make a straight person sexually and romantically attracted to people of the same sex by the use of wishfull thinking.
I agree like im gay but also believe in Jesus and although in the bible it says that it’s good to be celibate for some people but that’s not for everyone like i dont wanna live my entire life in celibacy or be bound to a life that i dont feel comfortable living… so i feel like its completely unfair and i cant stand it whenever heterosexual people refer to homosexuality as just another sin …like there’s a biigggg difference between having a loving relationship with someone of the same sex vs. going out and murdering people
So, children brought up in Christian homes, who love Jesus and the Father, and then discover in their teens that they are homosexual have exchanged " the truth of God for a lie"??? John Piper, can you read the original greek? Who was Paul addressing and why? What was the cultural context for the time his epistle was written? Quite simply this is missing from your interpretation.
There are people who struggle with unwanted same sex attraction. We all have all kinds of feelings sexual or otherwise but choose not act on them because we know that acting on them has consequences in our lives.
@@anthonythistle1465 Well if someone tells a young person who is homosexual that what they feel is "sinful", an "abomination", and that they will go to a horrible place after death and suffer forever then is it any wonder that they may not want their sexuality? Even straight people can come to hate their sexuality if they are made to feel bad enough. Any action we take has consequences; and not acting also has consequences.Not acting can be a source of suffering as much as acting on any feeling.
@@anthonythistle1465 A denial and loathing of your sexuality causes emotional and psychological suffering. A wise person walks between the extremes, guided by love and reason. I was that person who tried to suppress my sexuality for the sake of the Christian religion years ago. It was very damaging.
But God knows all of us, and the Bible is God-breathed. 2 Timothy 3:16, KJV: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
@@Patriot_Plays there are religions and customs in the world which are a lot older and deeper than your 2000 years old religion. Humans walked this earth for millions of years and successfully became one of the most influential species in nature, even before your religion was born. So stop preaching and read basic science.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging
Most of the Leviticus Verses you have listed were changed in the new testament. However homosexuality is pronounced wrong in both the old and new testament.
@@jessicajones9596 Not sure where you get you info, but it is flat out wrong. Jesus Christ put to rest the old testament - not just parts like you want it to be. Fact is Lev itself is not talking about homosexuality, unless you twist it like so many have. Fact if Fact. BS is BS, stop spreading Biblical lies.
1. Slavery in the Bible isn’t what you think slavery actually is. We think of chattel slavery, which God actually says to punish an owner for doing (Exodus 21:16). What is mentioned in the Bible is actually indentured, *consensual* servitude that ends in 7 years. 2. You cannot sell your daughter without her consent, but considering God doesn’t allow owners to beat their servants (Exodus 21:26-27) or else he has to let his servant go and pay them the allotted amount that was supposed to be given after the end of the 7 years. 3. This is a ceremonial law given to us so we could enter His temple while remaining pure. Periods are impure because of the blood stench. You are not to get close to or touch blood while in the purification process. This law and similar laws are fulfilled by Jesus Christ (and are in fact, not a sin to not do, because those laws were in context of entering the temple). 4. Animal sacrifices were done in the old testament because life created sin (Adam and Eve), so only death could remove it. This is a highly spiritual aspect in Christianity. When you kill an animal that cannot sin (a lamb), that lamb carries your sins for you and you are cleansed. Jesus Christ died on the cross for us as the final sacrifice (because He is eternal, so the cleansing of sin through Him is eternal as well). He was the lamb of God. Because of this, doing animal sacrifices today are actually deeply insulting. If you look into the deeper details of how Jesus was sacrificed, it IS the most cruel, horrid, and painful way to die. 5. This particular law is specific to the people of Israel at the time. The Sabbath was *deeply* important because it kept the nation’s covenant with God, and if it was broken, very negative consequences would occur. The Sabbath today is indeed for *us*, not for God. If we rest completely every 7th day, we will be blessed both in lifestyle and in spirit. 6. Another ceremonial law for the temple; doesn’t apply today. 7. See, disease and deformity is caused by sin. Because Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, disease, deformity, and corruption was a result. You can only know how to cause harm if you yourself can be harmed in a metaphorical sense, and so deformity comes from sin. Again, this is a ceremonial law purely for being able to witness God in the temple. He is so pure that anything sinful in contact with Him will indeed perish. And so any man with impurity, deformity, and so on (sin) will perish for He is made almost completely of sin. These laws were in fact made to protect us. God doesn’t want us to die in the temple unknowing, so He tells us who can and can’t enter. 8. This is also a ceremonial law. The reason they die is because they…would literally die in the temple. It’s not a punishment, it’s a warning. 9 + 10. All of these laws are also ceremonial laws. To clarify on homosexuality, no, you’re not suddenly a worse scum of a human being because you are one (and to clarify, homosexuality isn’t a sin, only the actual homosexual acts as put in context by the Bible are). Homosexuality is a sin, as is lying, coveting, worrying (because you don’t trust God), and judging somebody (different from discernment and warning, which the Bible tells us to do). I hope this helps clarify some things for you. I heavily suggest you look into the historical evidence for the resurrection, preferably a book such as “The Case for Christ” and “Did the Resurrection Happen…Really?” They are great, informative books. Once you get through that stage, I *heavily* suggest you go and get the book “The Evidence Bible” (KJV version which is different than the NKJV) by Ray Comfort. It’s an absolutely amazing book for answering almost all common (and uncommon) questions the unsaved typically have. I really hope you’ll give these books a try. God bless.❤️
@@belovedbean366 Man you really twist the word of God don't you. What is clear you make un-clear, what is un-clear you make clear - God knows what untruth you spread of His words. No matter as, homosexuality is not a sin.
@@Martian_XX I don't believe in Satan or your evil God. However, since you seem to believe in both, I am explaining that according to your evil Bible, Satan works for your evil God.
First of all, there is no human being on this planet no matter what age that does not know procreation can only be accomplished through heterosexual intercourse. This pastor and many others like him assume all people who are not heterosexual are totally oblivious to this knowledge. The problem is none of these pastors can legitimately defend or justify the biblical punishment (being put to death) to those who practice homosexual behaviour. This is what really angers the gay community as a whole.
pastor brian Oh wow ..... that’s amazing! What news link do you have to this story of two men or two women that had sexual relations and created a baby ? 🤔
@@Laflamablanca76 lots, many gay people use a surragate mother, or doner or some are married and have had kids that way also, gay people are not sterile u know...assume ur not well educated on gay people...? As heterosexuals use oral and anal sex more than gays I assume u know many news stories where they had a baby anally or orally?
Um your wrong I know loads of gays who had children. Not what you would call natral way but then again I also know loads of straight people who can't have children an have use sperm donnar or surrogate mothers test tube..
Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
That’s the thing. Love isn’t about sex. People can love each other and not have sex. People can have sex but not love each other. No restrictions on love, but yes there are restrictions on sex.
It is wrong and sinful as it goes against the natural and divine order. There is a spiritual root to homosexuality and I would encourage you to seek prayer and counseling.
Yes God does love everyone. That doesn't mean He has to agree with everything that people do. A parent can still love their kid even if their kid is doing drugs. A parent can love their kid and think doing drugs is wrong at the exact same time. God can do the same. Try thinking before making comments like this
@@sudeepjoseph69Maybe think before you assume what *GOD* , who is a being above all others, thinks, and focus on what scripture says he thinks, which is that everyone who believes in him should have eternal life. Nothing about LGBTQA+ being an exception.
@@breadish9335 I really think you have a limited understanding of scripture. For some reason you believe homosexuality is all that separates you from God. No, all sin separates you from God okay? That's why we need to believe in Jesus's sacrifice and be born again. Let me ask you. Did you ever even study the scriptures? Or you just use google for your opinions. Because right now it seems like you've never studied the scriptures.
@@sudeepjoseph69 well that's not what I'm talking about lol. I am perfectly aware sin seperates you from god, but homosexuality is not a sin. That's what I'm getting at :) Sorry for any misunderstanding
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” Leviticus 18:22. "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders" 1 Corinthians 6:9-20 it says so. You're wrong. You are absolutely wrong dude. The BIble makes it VERY clear that homosexuality is a sin. IT's NOT okay. Because it is against God. Jesus in Matthew 5 talkes about the idea of marriage, and that no one should have sexual intercourse with the same gender. You need to read the Bible again and rethink your facts. An God also it says in Genesis 2:24 it says "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" nothing there says that a man shall cleave to another man, or for a women to cleave for another man. You have been proven wrong multiple times. You are wrong. The Bible makes it very clear the homosexuality is in fact a sin. God makes it clear. This is the truth. It's time you learned the actual truth. Wich you get offended by! If you wanna look for the truth yourself, look no further than the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible does it say homosexuality is a good thing. Whoever told you that homosexuality is straight up stupid and is lying to you. And you are complete stupid for believing false information. The truth is that homosexuality is a sin. It says it in Leviticus 18:22, 1 corinthians 6:9-20 and Genisis 2:24 and Matthew 5. and that is the complete truth. There is no other way around it. There is no other way than the truth. That truth in written in the book called the Bible, wich is God's word. God's word is the only truth and the only truth there is. You have fallen into the way of the world and satan. Satan's mission is to bring good chirstians like us into a trap. Wich you yourself have fallen into. And his tactics are clever. Don't fall into them.
Leviticus 18:22 was mistranslated. To help prove this is to insert the second definition of זכר which is not only "a male," but is also "remembrance." The next two words are a Verb-Phrase; לֹא תִשְׁכַּב This phrase is addressed to both genders and scholars never point this out, but it equally means: "Not shall you(m) lay." *and* "Not shall she lay." So how is this? Because the future tense Hbrw verb to the "second person, masculine" --> you ...is both written and vocalized the same for the "third person, feminine" --> she. But because neither of the necessary Pronouns are added for distinction, specifying either or both persons, (like in Verses of Lev. Chapter 15) we have no choice but to assume both are being addressed equally. And the "Kicker" against the mistranslation is the next Hebrew word, משכבי which by the time you come across it in this Verse, you've just read it for the second time in the Holy Torah. This is where the Rabbinical (and Churchianity agrees with it) "Law of First Mentions" comes into view: Because the very first time that this word "Mishcabey" appears is in Genesis 49:04 where Reuben loses his Birthright for laying his father's concubine wife, Bilhah. Father Israel used that word as a replacement for "Peelegesh = Concubine" from earlier in Genesis 35:22, which is also the Start of that particular story. So it only condemns the Sin of Reuben and not Homosexuality at all. But I know that not many people can handle this truth, because they've been programmed to believe something implicitly by those who don't really "search out the Scriptures for themselves." Such folks as according to the Sages in the Karaite Sect of Orthodox Judaism, are living in Idolatry, while staying stiffnecked in their ignorance, preferring to hold all their faith in the "Poison pen of the Scribes" as said in Jeremiah 8:08. ... If you have read this and will continue hating those LGBT Folks, you will answer for *why* you didn't "study this out" when the Risen Messiah, Yeshua, calls you to give an account on Yom HaMishpat = Judgement Day.
Thousands of years of proven and well-respected history disagrees with you. The Jews knew, and still know, homosexuality is wrong. The early Christians knew it was wrong. Most modern Christians know it is wrong. It’s only modern western culture that has suddenly decided to go against that. Why did God make man and woman, and join them together in marriage? Why not the same sex? If you asked Jesus if homosexuality was honouring to God, what do you think He would say? Be honest.
No matter who you are or where you are on life's journey - God loves you. Hetro or Homo or any other sexual - God Loves You. God created you as you are, be the best you, you can be no matter your sexuality.
Happy Pride day Around the World this Sun 6/24/18 where millions and millions of LGBTQ+ March with Pride. Know God loves you as God created you to be, does not matter your sexuality or who you fall in love with, God loves you. Valprgis - Interesting you know God's intent for Eden, where just two made the world. How much incest do you thing there was? Marriage and the Bible - A trio of Iowa-based religious scholars penned an op-ed, reminding readers that despite popular opinion, the Bible does not simply define marriage as between one man and one woman. The argument against same-sex marriage is wholly unsustainable debate about marriage equality often centers, however discretely, on an appeal to the Bible. Unfortunately, such appeals often reflect a lack of biblical literacy on the part of those who use that complex collection of texts as an authority to enact modern social policy. The Bible's definition of marriage can be confusing and contradictory. A primary example of this is the religious book's stance on polygamy, a practice that was embraced by prominent biblical figures Abraham and David. Various Bible passages mention not only traditional monogamy, but also self-induced castration and celibacy, as well as the practice of wedding rape victims to their rapists. There are some people he may never be able to convince. Many politicians have made a career out of using the Bible to justify opposition to hot-button topics like same sex marriage. Those that use the Bible aren't necessarily interested in the truth or the complexity of the Bible. They are looking for one ancient sound bite to convince people what they already believe. Anyone who argues that "the Bible speaks plainly on one issue, especially something as complicated as marriage ... haven't take the time to read all of it.
I can't speak for people, Christian or otherwise - neither can you. The Bible does not say homosexuality is a sin. Where in the Bibe dose is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? That will be by question going forward. If ya can't answer it - Homosexuality - people in love, are not sinning.
The idea that you can say things like this because you read it in some book written by ancient people just because it feels right or spiritual to you is, to me, an epitome of selfishness.
@Olufsen I am not a proven liar. I have exposed your own lies and madness, as well as vicious slander against me, your nerve to accuse me of ad hominem when that's exactly what you do against me when you slander me. The Bible is crap and easily disproved by science.
The modern idea that the universe created itself in such a sophisticated, orderly way requires more faith than believing in a powerful, intelligent creator. Your garden does not arrange itself into order, it requires ordering by an intelligence (the gardener) and then slowly becomes disorderly unless maintained. The universe operates in the same way - the planets orbit the sun in a perfectly orderly way, the sun rises and sets at the same time in the same way, the sun is the perfect distance from the earth to sustain life..and so on and so forth. The universe itself testifies to an almighty intelligence that is continually upholding order, it runs like clockwork. We all worship something - the atheist worships himself and his intelligence and reason. The Christian worships the God who created a perfect universe that has been corrupted by mans sin, and he also worships that same God who came to earth in the form of a man - the man Christ Jesus, who came as a servant to humble himself unto death, death on the cross, to pay the penalty for the sin which man has rightly deserved. I pray that you turn from worshiping anything else and turn back to the creator who died to save sinners.
@@olufsen8394 Your own replies prove you are a pathologically lying, mentally ill and vicious sociopath. I accept science,you spit on it all the time. I defeated you once more.
@@beaZ136 There is no creator of the universe until yu prove otherwise. "the planets orbit the sun in a perfectly orderly way," Not at all. In the long term the orbits are unpredictable and chaotic. "the sun rises and sets at the same time in the same way" Wrong, even that is not predictable in the long run. "the sun is the perfect distance from the earth to sustain life." And in a billion years, it's Mars which will be at the right distance. "The universe itself testifies to an almighty intelligence that is continually upholding order, it runs like clockwork. " No it doesn't. The existence of the universe and its alleged order and harmony (which are illusionary because of all the chaos that happens in it) are no proof that god exists. Tomorrow a meteorite could wipe out the life on Earth. A god would not create life on a planet to leave it exposed to a certainty of extinction in the long run. "We all worship something - the atheist worships himself and his intelligence and reason." No, that is not what atheism means. Atheism is the lack of belief in any deity. That does not involve a worship of anything including the self. "The Christian worships the God who created a perfect universe " You've got no scientific proof of that.
No. What we should be asking is what makes heterophobia wrong. The video is based on unbiased truth and you call yourself a pastor brian? You are no real pastor. You are a servant of Satan.
You can’t say being gay is bad and then use the Bible as your reason. It’s a belief not a fact. If you want to say something like that use facts instead of religion. Yes you can believe whatever you want but that doesn’t make it right
"Yes you can believe whatever you want but that doesn't make it right" Okay then, well I'll use that exact same logic on your comment. You can believe that using the Bible as a reason is not valid, but that's just your belief. You can believe it if you want to, but that doesn't make it right. The Bible is a valid reason.
@@sudeepjoseph69 Yeah man…great use of logic… You literally just professed a sort of nihilistic view of the world, where nothing has objective meaning. The original comment is clearly referring to the validity of the Bible as an OBJECTIVE reason. It is not. It is a religious text; a set of principles, not a scientific argument. I get you believe your religion is right and factual, but you have to realize at some point in your life that it is based strictly on faith, not rational thinking. Saying the Bible is not an objective argument is not a belief. It is literally a fact. It’s the same with all religions. I’d like to see you respond to a Muslim man trying to define your entire world based on their “objective” religion. This isn’t even to say the existence of God isn’t a fact. What we’re talking about is the interpretation of his teachings.
@@sudeepjoseph69 That’s exactly what I said. You have faith he’s speaking through the prophets YOU CHOSE to listen to. You know there are religions other that yours, right?
@@f-35alightningii79 Sure I have some faith. But I know for sure those are the prophets of God. Don't you know the requirements for prophethood? The prophets I trust fit all of them. It's not just mere faith.
I'm atheist, so you telling me that "God doesnt love me" is basically like you saying that your imaginary freind deosnt want to invite me to his tea party
No one’s saying that. God still loves you even if you’re an atheist. He loves you so much that he respects your freedom to reject him and spend eternity seperate from him. Despite you being atheist, his offer of salvation still stands. Only the fool says in his heart that there is no god.
This is why suicide rates is high and happiness index is low in non religious countries. Too much freedom will make a person not acknowledge their limits, things that are wrong and from doing wrong.
@Uu RinbowYT uU sis u may leave but God will never leave you. He loves u so much. accept the love before you die. the girl in this video that i just watched stood out to me... she said “I‘m a happy woman (scroll down to link below) this may sound like a lot of work but u know... this world is what is “a lot of work”. A world where things are hidden from us, the hidden agendas. were always taught in schools all the things we “need to know” but do we really “need to know” those things? Do u not see the agendas they push upon us and want us to support? We should rather.. learn the truth. in the bible, Jesus says “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” and This same creator made us to be Male and female... not with different sexualities. The same creator, he Made Man and woman to be able to create. The reason why he restricts us from doing things is because its to protect us. Including murder, lying, stealing, cheating- because these things cause not only a SPIRITUAL DEATH, but these sins including the first sin of adam and eve has caused PHYSICAL DEATH “Romans 6:23 King James Version (KJV) 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” and He says that when we sin, we are literally enslaved to it. “But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.” when man and woman no longer become man and woman, the creation for babies no longer exists. how will a man and a man make creation again? How will a woman and a woman make a babiee!!! The evil (which is ooposite of God) literally stops creation. the reason why Jesus restricts us from homosexuality because homosexuality is NOT love, its lust. purely lust. and it enslaves us to it. I struggle with both lust and other things and u know the feeling of being “free?”This homosexuality lifestyle is not as “freeing” as it looks. U see, even the WORD says “And no wonder! For Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” this LUST. the feeling of it all... masquerades as light but actually fills us up with darkness. THIS isnt true love. For we are being enslaved to it day by day as it is being normalized in this world gone rogue. a fallen world. We will see: “LOVE IS LOVE💕” and “PRIDE 🏳️🌈” but the Bible says “1 Corinthians 13:4-8 (NIV) 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is NOT proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” *LOVE DOES NOT BOAST* *Love is not proud.* and yet what do we see today with this lifestyle? PRIDE. arrogance. a perversion of what was made to be good turned into evil. ROMANS 1:27 “In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.” This lifestyle is Using people for their bodies than seeing them for their heart. Defiling the body. and Degrading our bodies which were originally created to be temples sister gubby... “So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies” Romans 1:24... but thank God for his mercy that even if we are evil and have literally gone against Him despite of his own protection for us.. He still JOHN 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” and He loves u so so much Tina. or whoever is reading this. for he IS love. True love. Yes we have time to repent but... We must repent before its too late.. Accept his love. its better to be safe now than sorry later. i struggle a lot too. but i Know by abiding in Him i will be more like the person He truly made me to be.. rather than what this world has changed me into.. We are art in Him and he is our artist. dont let this world scribble on u and tell u otherwise. Jesus loves u so much ✨❤️😊 th-cam.com/video/v--BuHXVA70/w-d-xo.html
@nuggetnugget11 •3• *its true love* - a creator loving his own children. im sorry for the pain this world has caused. God bless may u find peace in his love. “ Ephesians 3:16-18 New International Version (NIV) 16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ. *And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God*
waldo I trust that god knows right from wrong. So I trust god, not books that many have been written by the hand of a human. Humans can be so incorrect, but being gay is not bad. Love is god. And sometimes, love is gay.
Dear Waldo, if a woman and a woman or a man and a man love each other, they may not be able to make a child but they can raise one. Would you like have two different s*x people who don’t love each other be your parents and have to fight through it just because some human who wrote a book that has been passed through many generations therefor many different people which makes it so it is probably way different from the original thoughts?
It is ungodly, which makes it wrong. It is literally anti-God. God is a perpetual marriage of The Spirit, The Son, and The Father, inextricably bound into ONE. And every human consists also of this triune and heterogeneous structure. YOU (person #3) = Mom (person #2) + Dad (Person #1) Heterogeneity in our case is fulfilled by sex designations. God created His Image in each of us in that males and females differ but are bound as ONE, to create a three-in-one union that reflects His Triune Nature. (Gen 1:26-27) God did this for a purpose. And we see it in the very next verses of Scripture following man's creation: "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it..." This is why homosexuality and other non-heterosexual schemes are detestable to God. It runs contrary to His Triune Image, and His declared aim to use mankind to replicate and glorify It across the earth. "Gay marriage" is an oxymoronic attempt by The Enemy, hatched in hell and kicked upon the surface of the earth, to make man party to a worldwide corruption and mockery of God Himself. It is a slap in His Adorable Face, contrary and hostile to His very Nature and purpose. For this reason Christians must stand resolutely against it.
@@oscarbenigsen4538You have no proof god exists, that he has a problem with homosexuality, and why. Births needing a man and a woman to procreate is no argument to anything. Relationships are about feelings and love. Your homophobia is detestable to humankind and nature. Now shut up you fanatic. Gay marriage is real because marriage does not belong to your religion. You are not a true Christian. You are a homophobic sc*mbag with no feelings.
Yawn yawn yawn yawn.. The arrogance of people. What 2 concenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is nothing to do with me or anyone else....
Only, they bring what they want to in privacy of their own home to the middle of Main St. with their “pride” parades and forcibly teach it in schools to our children. Your lie is exposed.
@@keithwilson6060 no they don't they educate others that some people are gay. What's wrong with teaching others that through their life's they will meet gay people bi people trans people straight people... What wrong with teaching others about that...there no lie but what has been exposed is you ignorance and your homophobia.. I'm perfectly OK with my sexuality I don't feel threatened by others. .
@@keithwilson6060 Keith I'm sorry you're so insecure in your own sexuality that you feel threatened by others... That's on you.. An they don't FORCE it on anyone stop exaggerating so you feel better in your own self.. Next you be saying it's unnatural because the bible says so.... Is that why your so homophobic....
If killing is murder, why don’t all murderers murder kids? If idolatry is worshiping another God(s), why don’t all non-Christian people worship *all* the other Gods? Or if worshiping Buddha is idolatry, why aren’t all theist non-Christians buddhists? There are different kinds of self-idolatry, and homosexuality is considered to be one of them.
1. Because God says so (logical fallacy: appeal to authority) 2. Roman 1, 24-29 says so. (logical fallacy: appeal to authority) 3. Paul C.6 says so. (logical fallacy: appeal to authority) 4. Man and women becomes one flesh (logical fallacy: appeal to authority, is-ought fallacy) 5. John Pipers personal Interpretation of Paul (logical fallacy: appeal to authority). John Pipers is an article of faith - not reason. Therefore, I have no good reason to follow his claims.
It's only a logical fallacy if you reject the authority of God, in which case, why are you even looking into scriptural answers to questions? If you reject God's authority, you will not find answers in scripture.
The modern idea that the universe created itself in such a sophisticated, orderly way requires more faith than believing in a powerful, intelligent creator. Your garden does not arrange itself into order, it requires ordering by an intelligence (the gardener) and then slowly becomes disorderly unless maintained. The universe operates in the same way - the planets orbit the sun in a perfectly orderly way, the sun rises and sets at the same time in the same way, the sun is the perfect distance from the earth to sustain life..and so on and so forth. The universe itself testifies to an almighty intelligence that is continually upholding order, it runs like clockwork. We all worship something - the atheist worships himself and his intelligence and reason. The Christian worships the God who created a perfect universe that has been corrupted by mans sin, and he also worships that same God who came to earth in the form of a man - the man Christ Jesus, who came as a servant to humble himself unto death, death on the cross, to pay the penalty for the sin which man has rightly deserved. I pray that you turn from worshiping anything else and turn back to the creator who died to save sinners.
What Makes Homosexuality Wrong? A bunch of old men saying so, and using the idea that the previous guy said so. Then the old men use that to control others through emphasizing simple binary thinking and their own authoritarianism. It's even better when they reference mythical old guys like Moses and Jesus. Then they can claim those mythic men said whatever they want to assert, and claim the right of interpretation.
No way you called Jesus a myth 💀, you have to be one of the most idiotic person to step foot on this Earth, what makes Jesus a myth when scientists PROVES his existence? Are your feelings hurt because being gay IS a sin? Oh better yet is it because you'll go to hell 💀, go read the bible dumbass and do some research the bible is more real then you think. And I swear all you brain dead swamps just want to drag people down with your stupid ideologies. Being gay is a choice 💀
@@UnconventionalReasoning You just keep coming back with stupid questions instead of actually doing your own damn research, and the fact you say the contests of the bible are inconsistent is crazy when you never read it, and I would explain but your ignorance would probably get in the way.
Short version: No Long version: So long as consent is involved by both parties, and made sure to get tested for STDs and use protection when they think about getting down to the jumpy business, then it's not wrong.
I'm pretty much into women, but I have had a few homosexual experiences in my and, honestly, my health improved. Anybody who claims it's unhealthy is lying through their teeth.
It sounds to me like he's getting answers from literary authors who have been dead for centuries who chose to attribute their words to one of the many thousand Gods that have been believed in over the course of the human race's existence instead of thinking for himself and applying real world logic.
@@1dodgelover Its judgement to say that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@@dgbx6 What makes an arrogant know it all commenter on youtube with 1 subscriber on their channel who considers herself judge of all able to comment in such a dismissive way?
@@1GaspardDeLaNuit No you can't. Basically your whole comment is "the universe exist, therefore a god exists". You can prove why strawberries are healthy because of its components and their known effect to the human health ; you haven't given any evidence that god created the universe. I use my brain, and part of yours ; you don't.
@@Nonalhomophobie God is real, the bible is the truth, and you are ignorant if you truly believe that God doesn't exist, and to even further support homosexuality, so even if you didn't believe God was real you still support this homo nonsense, anyways the universe is proof for God's existence and better yet the fact that scientists PROVES that events in the bible ACTUALLY happened, you should do you're research.
GOD bless you Pastor John.... watching this gave me more understanding of this spirit that alot of us are battling. I thank GOD for using you..this will deliver alot of souls as it did mine🙏stay blessed
@@kenilworth_katrina Hey, I felt attracted to a guy once. I don't believe in God. Religion is overall a weakness. (I'm just tryna annoy you also those are my opinions I'm just being self aware)
Quick question...Is it still wrong to have a gay character I'm a comic/story I'm planning on making a comic with my own original characters and I have one who's gay and it's one of a major part in it..
Jay ZoneArts depend on what's the message behind your comic, and what's the significance of that particular distinction of this character. Such as, why is it a major part of it, what about it is needed to carry out the message of the story. At the end of the day, if it's something pushing to glorify the sin, then it's worth noting and self-critique, that goes for any sinful trait.
+FEE LYNN, I don't think it's biblical to hate homosexual people and become anti-gay activists. Having sinful desires for unnatural relations is just as sinful as the desires to steal, to lie, to hate etc., but Jesus came to break the bondage of sin. Our reverence and love for God should result in true compassion for those who are struggling, because there are homosexual people who have listened, their hearts changed, and turned away from that sin. Struggles against sin are in all of our lives, no matter our sexual orientation. If we're against anything at all, it should be sin itself, and more importantly we should be fighting FOR love, faith, and righteousness in salvation because of what Christ did for us. btw, your profile picture is very unsettling. I hope you would seek God in all matters and honor Him in everything you do, including your writing.
as an art student pursuing a career in visual development and color design, I was simply commenting on the visual signals that the colors communicated. The hues just seemed a little garish, sorry if I misunderstood you. I just wanted to say that our emphasis as Christians is to fight all sin and embrace our identity in Christ to fight sin with God's strength, and our stance on issues like sexual orientation shouldn't cause people to misunderstand our stance to be against people stuck in those struggles. your writing felt too violently against the people themselves
Its your judgement thats a sin, two people in love is not a sin. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Homosexuality being wrong is a cultural assessment from the primitive majority. It's not a universal wrong and certainly not a sin. Homosexuals are only about 5% of humanity. You really get stuck on the tiniest most irrelevant things. Paul was a primitive man who was afraid of comets. Paul didn't make universal policy and doesn't make universal policy. A man and a woman do not become one flesh. They become "one" team.
Are you pro-life? How does an anti-gay attitude impact uterine health and viability of embryos, fetuses, and infants? How much stress does it produce within the body?
You see, it’s interesting how Christians want more babies to born and tell people that abortion is wrong and to not have sex if they don’t want a baby. Now the funny thing is, they don’t like it when people have sex but can’t produce a baby, so which is it? Force un consenting women to have babies or to stop a form of sex that cannot result in a baby?
Our sexuality is not only a result of the environment we grew up in. Being gay has been found to also be a hereditary trait passed down. They have also found chemicals like serotonin have a profound effect on who we are sexually attracted too. Testosterone tells our body we are male. Estrogen tells our body we are female. While in the womb sometimes chemicals don’t develop properly. Some are born feeling they are in the wrong body. Like a male feels female. They don’t choose this their brain chemistry is different than straight people. It’s NOT A SIN TO BE YOURSELF. SHAME ON ANYONE WHO JUDGES THAT.
Hezekiah Logan We are talking about two different things here, you are talking about a more so insane mental disorder and they are talking about a harmless one.
@Hezecut Hah, I lived with that logic for half of my life and you know where it got me? Absolute misery and on the brink of suicide. Christians cannot even fathom what they're asking homosexuals to do. Live their lives completely celibate and alone while despising themselves until their bitter end. That's the expectation for a gay christian to be worthy of heaven. I decided I cannot live like this anymore, and I will live as both a transgender and Christian. And if that improves my wellbeing while I adhere to all other laws God has set forth for me, hopefully I can be deemed worthy of entering heaven. Instances of homosexuality and transexuality occur in nature, and when it was condemned during biblical times it was because they were lustful, arrogant evil people, unlike many (not all) of today's homosexuals who aren't consumed with lust, and simply don't want to be alone for the rest of their lives. But I was, and still sort of am a huge Christian conspiracy theorist, and without getting into all that I'll just say I've seen things that permanently prove the existence of Jesus and God in my eyes, which is why I've fought against my nature for as long as I have. But I am 24, and felt this way since I was 12, and living this way has been crippling. I'll still be a christian if I transition, just a far less miserable and far more capable one.
There surely is a wholly rational argument against homosexuality. It is obvious, sitting before us all, but because The West has been infected by the LGBTQ+ mind-virus, it will take a long time to present the case here. I know that the case is powerful because I have presented it to those who have the most interest in finding its weaknesses, and they, to a man (or whatever) fail to point out weaknesses. Moreover, TH-cam deletes my posts. Which is proof that those posts speak truth to its leftism.
Because the bible says it's wrong? No...not good enough. It's just a book. I had literally never been approached by a deity or savior telling me it's wrong.
It more than suffices. the Bible is the most powerful book in existence and it just so happens to be the word of God, the creator and ruler of the Universe.
@@Monzerratz Hey, I have a book that says it was written by pikachu and it says all christians should have tea parties with monitor lizards. The fact that my book was written by pikachu and exists is more than enough proof that you should be sat sipping green tea with a komodo dragon right now talking about the latest issue of What Carcass magazine.
This is a really interesting response. I haven't heard it put this way before. Homosexual orientation is a brokenness which results from sin. That brokenness isn't a sin, but to act on it is.
What does this guy and other so called pastors have against homosexuals? They cannot judge or know God's mind. Homosexuals would not be on God's earth if God did not want them on Earth.
@hydrate your soul - are you talking about heterosexuals when you talk about pedophilla as most are heterosexual - its a fact. Do you have a problem with facts? The question remains: This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin. Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
Nothing against us. Against sin. I believe the bible clearly states God's decision on the matter and that if he was in fact alright with it he would have made Jesus say so. God most certainly did make people who are now in the LGBT+ community but he did not cause them to be that way. Created people, yes. Created LGBT+, no. Sin has crept into every aspect of our lives.
Not all Christians believe this crockery. Not was even most of the Jewish rabbis who ancestors wrote the Tanakh. I will take their word over non-biblical Christian Apologetics propaganda and dogma any day of the week. Rev George
@s u p e r n o v a love is not just love. The reason why Jesus does not want us to be homosexuals is because homosexuality is not love. its lust. he tries to protects us from the bad yet we keep choosing it. God Bless u supernova. “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking.” 1 corinthians 13:4-8
The Bible never refers to homosexuality as we understand it today. Oh my word, exchanging God for "ourselves", we are prone to fall in love with the same-sex, a dysfunctional form of idolatry. What a way to demonize same-sex relationships.
look up the cities of Sodom and Gomorra then read what the Creator said about these cities that were burnt up because of homosexual lifestyle; that was serve as an example to those after who would live ungodly;
Ezekiel tells us exactly why the city was destroyed Ezekiel 16:48-50, As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord … this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.” Apparently ARROGANT, GREEDY, SELFISH, and FAT PEOPLE were the reasons the city was destroyed! Notice that 2 members of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are never mentioned?
Sin is unbelief and nothing else. Gay people dont make the choice but are born that way.God will not condem a gay person to hell. Jesus never condemend anyone : )
Why are you leading people astray? Matthew 23 clearly indicates that Jesus is capable of condemning/judging anyone he pleases. You can't expect a holy God to tolerate sin can you? Don't tell people to make peace with their sinful lifestyles, they need to understand that homosexuality is a trait God hates and is deserving of condemnation. 1 Corinthians 6:9 "9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." Those who desire to be right with God can take some peace with knowing that it's not the worst sin you can commit, but only if that gives them the motivation to confront it. Any 'believer' who thinks they can carry their homosexual baggage to the kingdom of heaven is only deceiving themselves.
Its judgement to say that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@Valpurgis Tachyon - A) you did not answer the questions, they are below for you to answer. B) if everyone is born in sin, we all go to hell, so why are you concerned about two people in love? C) A trio of Iowa-based religious scholars penned an op-ed, reminding readers that despite popular opinion, the Bible does not simply define marriage as between one man and one woman. The argument against same-sex marriage is wholly unsustainable debate about marriage equality often centers, however discretely, on an appeal to the Bible. Unfortunately, such appeals often reflect a lack of biblical literacy on the part of those who use that complex collection of texts as an authority to enact modern social policy. The Bible's definition of marriage can be confusing and contradictory. A primary example of this is the religious book's stance on polygamy, a practice that was embraced by prominent biblical figures Abraham and David. Various Bible passages mention not only traditional monogamy, but also self-induced castration and celibacy, as well as the practice of wedding rape victims to their rapists. There are some people he may never be able to convince. Many politicians have made a career out of using the Bible to justify opposition to hot-button topics like same sex marriage. Those that use the Bible aren't necessarily interested in the truth or the complexity of the Bible. They are looking for one ancient sound bite to convince people what they already believe. Anyone who argues that "the Bible speaks plainly on one issue, especially something as complicated as marriage ... haven't take the time to read all of it. Article: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/biblical-marriage-iowa-scholars-op-ed_n_3397304.html --------------------- Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@Valpurgis Tachyon - Yep and that includes homosexuals. The only difference is who one falls in love with. The questions yet again Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
The word "homophobia or transphobia," when broken down, roughly means being scared of Trans and Gay. Its loaded suffix suggests that it's a clinical term, just as arachnophobia refers to people with a fear of spiders. The FBI are corrupt protecting Biden who is weakening our nation fearing these hater's. No surprise to see corrupt police coward to weaken our nation by fearing these hater's. They hate Christians by dressing up like Jesus on the cross to mock Him as evil provoking Christians to hate them. They use God's name in vain. They dress up like Satan to mock God that are stones throwed at Christian's. They hate us that wars to hate God that we do hate these stones but not any person. They take and make evil the rainbow. They provoke Christians to hate which some fall in the trap that they show their trophy that they shot up. They are so starved to hate Christians that they hit us by striking at God that hates this abomination. Sin of any kind God hates because Sin separates us from God to the torments of Satan that hates us all. All that don't warn these demon infested people are the true haters. True Christians with truth that Jesus loves to set them free indeed. Turn to God will bless our Satan hated land. Turning to Satan then curse God brings more hate to our land. Yet Crazy man blames God to hate him as Satan does.
@@Nonalhomophobie Surely hath God said and you repeat what Satan used to condemn all. Now He tells you this same lie to destroy truth. Deep in your heart you knows it's a sin.
@@Nonalhomophobie Satan knows He does and you hope He don't. Your brain like Satan is way too small to erase Him out. Satan tried and failed and found out he couldn't. Now it's your turn to find this out. Satan knows his time is short and will use his last straw. Satan loves unbelief, helps it to hide better. That's what snakes do. Homophophic means the fear of Gay. I have no fear of Gay nor the snakes that bit them.
These types of people piss me off so much. You think someone can just turn it off? rather than torturing yourself by denying yourself your basic identity just for a possible notion of living in a non inclusive kingdom of joy that's really would still be hell even if it did exist cus ur still not yourself there it would be better to just accept who you are and make something beautiful for yourself in the world you know exist. Because i would rather live on my terms on earth and go to hell rather than living on hell on earth and then experiencing hell in heaven where they wouldn't even accept me. Also i am not even going into the topic that this all could just be as real as my dog being the supreme ruler and that the lgbt community has been persecuted for centuries on this notion. See i do not want to offend any religion but the thing to remember is that its YOUR religion and YOUR beliefs and not good enough for me to suffer for it.Also the fact that he said HOMOSEXUALITY is not natural is so false it pisses me off given the fact that over hundreds of species discluding humans have shown homosexuality temptations for millennia even humans. HOMOSEXUALITY is not knew and most ancient civilizations accepted better than most of our modern society. Also the entire god loves us argument is bs.Also if you can choose to be homosexual why would someone ever choose it in this horribly discriminative world. Every gay person prosecuted ,denied their freedom, and horribly treated chose it for fun?Also its 2 consensual adults doing their own business in their life its frankly no ones business.CONSENSUAL SEX YOU DO NOT RELATE TO IS NOT A SIN
the girl in this video that i just watched stood out to me... she said “I‘m a happy woman (scroll down to the link below) this may sound like a lot of work but u know... this world is what is “a lot of work”. A world where things are hidden from us, the hidden agendas. were always taught in schools all the things we “need to know” but do we really “need to know” those things? Do u not see the agendas they push upon us and want us to support? We should rather.. learn the truth. in the bible, Jesus says “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” and This same creator made us to be Male and female... not with different sexualities. The same creator, he Made Man and woman to be able to create. The reason why he restricts us from doing things is because its to protect us. Including murder, lying, stealing, cheating- because these things cause not only a SPIRITUAL DEATH, but these sins including the first sin of adam and eve has caused PHYSICAL DEATH “Romans 6:23 King James Version (KJV) 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” and He says that when we sin, we are literally enslaved to it. “But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.” when man and woman no longer become man and woman, the creation for babies no longer exists. how will a man and a man make creation again? How will a woman and a woman make a babiee!!! The evil (which is ooposite of God) literally stops creation. the reason why Jesus restricts us from homosexuality because homosexuality is NOT love, its lust. purely lust. and it enslaves us to it. I struggle with both lust and other things and u know the feeling of being “free?”This homosexuality lifestyle is not as “freeing” as it looks. U see, even the WORD says “And no wonder! For Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” this LUST. the feeling of it all... masquerades as light but actually fills us up with darkness. THIS isnt true love. For we are being enslaved to it day by day as it is being normalized in this world gone rogue. a fallen world. We will see: “LOVE IS LOVE💕” and “PRIDE 🏳️🌈” but the Bible says “1 Corinthians 13:4-8 (NIV) 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is NOT proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” *LOVE DOES NOT BOAST* *Love is not proud.* and yet what do we see today with this lifestyle? PRIDE. arrogance. a perversion of what was made to be good turned into evil. ROMANS 1:27 “In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.” This lifestyle is Using people for their bodies than seeing them for their heart. Defiling the body. and Degrading our bodies which were originally created to be temples sister gubby... “So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies” Romans 1:24... but thank God for his mercy that even if we are evil and have literally gone against Him despite of his own protection for us.. He still JOHN 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” and He loves u so so much Tina. or whoever is reading this. for he IS love. True love. Yes we have time to repent but... We must repent before its too late.. Accept his love. its better to be safe now than sorry later. i struggle a lot too. but i Know by abiding in Him i will be more like the person He truly made me to be.. rather than what this world has changed me into.. We are art in Him and he is our artist. dont let this world scribble on u and tell u otherwise. Jesus loves u so much ✨❤️😊 th-cam.com/video/v--BuHXVA70/w-d-xo.html
It’s not. Stop. We’re human like you. I’m an atheist, but I used to be a Christian. In church, we were taught god loves all creatures. I tried my hardest but I could never believe Christianity. So I became an atheist. Same sex attraction has been found in so many species. Over 500. Homophobic tendencies in only one. We’re not pedos. We’re not evil. Were not broken. We were born this way. We’re human. Just like you. I’m gay. I’m proud. I struggle with not homosexuality, but with the little voice in my head screaming it’s wrong to blush when I talk to her. Saying it’s wrong to think I am normal. Saying that I should die. Please. End homophobia. End hate.
It's hateful to let a bunch of people perish for eternity and fall into a dangerous promiscuous lifestyle that can lead to unsatisfied relationships and the possibility of a dangerous sexual disease because we don't want to offend them. If we truly hated them we won't warn them of the incoming wrath to come or the dangers of the homosexual lifestyle. You justify it by relating us to other different species, like humans are now to be compared to animals in terms of sexual standards, that's how low you rate us? Should we start going naked and crapping outside because other species do it too? We're all broken fallen people, we're wretched, we're undeserving of Love and we've violated God's laws, humanity is nothing to boast about and it can't be used as a defense. God shows mercy to all as long as we're led to Christ, his mercy is not an excuse for us to do what we want because he's just going to look over it, it's a limited timer that forces us to make our decisions quickly before life ends.
Don't give up on battling your sin lad, if you desire eternal life with God you have to put in the effort to confront the sin in your life. Pray to Jesus for guidance and he will heal you.
@@oldzem - If you are talking about homosexuality - it is not a sin. Answering a couple of question prove this. Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Honestly, as long as they don’t attack me personally I’m perfectly fine with them and their beliefs. I was just interested in their thought process. I’m still gay as hell thought 😝😝😝
@@the2kking307 The message from literally every single animal in the animal kingdom applies to you. Gay is OK. In fact, its not just OK, its out right reccomended.
@@letsallacceptchrist5484 sorry for the length of this reply the concept of what we today call "homosexuality" is someone who has attractions to the same sex and lacks attraction to the opposite sex. The concept of "homosexual" and "heterosexual" were not a thing until the late 1800s when sexologists (people who scientifically study sexuality) coined the term. Today, homosexual is an identity, something someone can be, a condition of a person. Before then, it was just seen as an action, something someone chose to do that anyone was capable of, not something that was seen as a component of who someone was. That's how the Bible phrases it as well. The Bible never condemns same-sex attraction, only action. It only talks about sex, not attractions or romantic relationships or romantic actions, just sex. They didn't see homosexuality as a trait, but an action. There was no "homosexuality", but only sodomy, an action. One could be called a sodomite, but that's the same as biblically calling someone a thief or an idolater in that it's a name based on their action, not their essence. The Bible doesn't consider thievery or idolatry to be a characteristic of a person's identity, but just choices. One is not born a thief but chooses to do thievery. One is not born a idolater but chooses to do idolatry. The Bible doesn't consider any of these to be an identity, same as sodomy. It just sees it as an action. Homosexuality as we know it wasn't a thing because the Bible never considered it being an inherent trait to someone, but an action someone chose to do. It never thought of people in relationships, only people having sex. Every verse on the matter only talks about sex, not attraction or romance.
Fausto Fernandez Good question. The bible *has* been rewritten multiple times, with edits everywhere each time. Why is the book titled "Holy Bible" by King any more accurate than "The Bible but Gay-er" I can get on Amazon?
AG fireworks Our Earth rotates so that we see the sun sometimes and don't see it at others. The sun, a star, was born within the clouds of dust scattered throughout our galaxy. Turbulence deep within these clouds gives rise to knots with sufficient mass that the gas and dust can begin to collapse under its own gravitational attraction. As the cloud collapses, the material at the center begins to heat up. Known as a protostar, it is this hot core at the heart of the collapsing cloud that will one day become a star. Three-dimensional computer models of star formation predict that the spinning clouds of collapsing gas and dust may break up into two or three blobs; this would explain why the majority the stars in the Milky Way are paired or in groups of multiple stars. As the cloud collapses, a dense, hot core forms and begins gathering dust and gas. Not all of this material ends up as part of a star - the remaining dust can become planets, asteroids, or comets or may remain as dust. (Source, nasa.gov ) There are plenty of other galaxies, planets, and suns. Surely one of them would hold life, and almost surely more of them do. The internet is inside a few data centres mostly in the US. (Source, telegraph.co.uk ) This has been replicated in Cuba where they have their own internet traveling on their own cables. The neat thing about their internet is that all of the connected computers are also data centres hosting their internet. (Source, vox.com ) Nature has has around 4 1/2 billion years for trial and error of life on Earth. We just happened to have passed the trial (so far), just like cats, dogs, worms, ect.
Read judge chapter 19 it also speak of Sodom and was about men having sex with other men then with women, and better to rape a women then to have sex with the same sex...don't any one she change the bible to your own likness . Judah two son where killed by God, one was evil and the other by letting his seed spell out on the ground, many says because his desobey Judah... God State only a parant my put there own child to death disobeying. (read the Bible) So having sex with yourself is a sin no ifs or but. When I was a child and did this no one have told it was a sin but know it was.. both are sins but gay is a evil sin. Yes God destory Sodom fore being gay. Sodom was a good city at first, Abram and the high priest of God bless those five city, and even little boys became gay and evil. The bible show that a 16 male was a full grown man and fight in battle, so a boy is 15 years old and younger. I don't hate gays, and had many gay friends, they are good and I don't think God will killed them for it. But it's not good in Gods eyes or act as humans. Even if they Bible don't agaist it it still is wrong. Not in any part no where in way one sex is having sex with a child is wrong. But it very wrong and evil, a child not really don't know right from wrong, even if we teach it..the bible dose not need to say it wrong, the bible not need to say sex is wrong unless you are married and only married, you do not have any rights when you face the most loving true God. And it is your choise to be just as a child rape, they did not ask God to make them make rape.The bible teach us love kindness not lust.
Please answer the questions This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, and we know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin. Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
Yep God makes homosexuals and God does not make sin. God made homosexuals and people intersex for a reason, to fall in love same as heterosexual. God has reasons. You didn't answer the question, that comes from Cor, Rom, Tim, why not? Let me repeat so you can answer. It will show homosexuality is not a sin. This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, and we know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin. Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
The point is this is gender based, let me ask the question again. It shows homosexuality is not a sin, no matter how much you want it to be. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin. The 2nd question - does not talk about lust as the Bible does it talks about Love as the Bible does: Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
ok i just answered both of these question, and all i asked in the beginning is to simply read a verse. and i answered both of your questions, so please do not write the same thing again.
You did not answer the question, unless you are saying God creates sin??? the question again: This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin. Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
"What Makes Homosexuality Wrong?" Personal opinion. If someone believes it's wrong, then in their opinion it is wrong. If someone believes it isn't wrong, then in their opinion it isn't wrong.
@Richard Fox I agree that there is nothing wrong with being gay, or bi, or trans. My point is that anyone who says homosexuality is wrong is stating their opinion, not a fact. It's the same as a person stating that strawberry ice cream is the best flavor of ice cream: opinion not fact. They are entitled to their opinion, they are not entitled to have their opinion respected or enforced.
First of all we should know that religious scripts were written long ago. At that time homosexuality existed in secrecy. Homosexuality is something found in the natural biome, it is something god created so be whoever you want to be and pls people we have to modify the scripts now becoz its not medieval age.
@@Martian_XX Homosexuals are capable of procreation, multi-account filthy little troll and vicious sociopathic *mbecile. Homosexuality is not wrong and it's natural.
It seems that when this question comes up, everyone "assumes" that the individual is acting upon their sexual urges. Being gay and abstinent is no different than being straight and abstinent....
THANK YOU
Straight people only have to be abstinent till marriage. so does it mean all gay people have been made to never have sexual/initimate connection?
@@otejiriighomuaye4409 that is correct unfortunately
Coming from a proudly out gay in Minnesota that is pretty much correct
Caden Harmsen feel bad for them
U are wrong because the intention is still there. Plus the Bible says that God judges us by our heart not our actions
Notice how everyone who says that homosexuality is bad is only quoting the Bible and not using references that are relevant from the past 1,000 years
i Because when they are in the wrong, instead of being mature about it they use any way to get out of it. Honestly homophobes are just obnoxious.
I'm a gay Christian and I believe that living abstinent is the right thing for myself. We aren't homophobic we just believe truth doesn't have an expiration date. Feelings and philosophy die but truth never will
@@jedidiahschmitz605 exactly, well said.
@@jedidiahschmitz605 The same is also true for unmarried heteros. People act as if they will fall apart if they dony sleep around.
how about this; love is love can apply to incest. "Between two consentual adults" can also apply to incest. Your excuses and your reasons for why homosexuaity is okay apply to other perversions that you would (hopefully) say are not okay. I can't think of any other excuse homosexuals use, other than "I was born this way," to which I would say, "I am born this way too." I was born with lust also. Doesn't mean I should go around having sex with whatever guy I find attractive.
Ok I'm just gonna say something here.
I'm a Christian, let me get that out
I used to think I was bi, which was when I was backslid
I condemned myself back then, believing the lies of homophobic people.
But then, God called me to Himself, away from condemnation, away from all the self pity and sadness.
Yes, I still experience a bit of attraction towards girls. But now, it's not I-want-to-marry-you-and-have kids-with-you kind of attraction. It is that girl is pretty, she's beautiful. Just like God made her.
See now, it is not that I agree with homophobia, in fact I say a huge NO-NO to it. A lot of people would go ahead and say just cause you don't support my way of life means you hate me. But no it doesn't. I have no reason to hate you, I am literally as bad, sinful, disgusting, immoral as you are. We are both filth, waddling in filth. No one is more clean. I am sinner, you are a sinner.
Now I have seen alot of the comments in the section, and it's just "woah". Enough said.
Main point is, I've been on both sides of the wall, we can all get over, no matter what you identify as. Just cause I don't agree with you doesn't mean I hate you. (I know this is a terrible analogy, but bear with me) If everyone thought whoever disagreed with them, hated them, no one would have friends, there's always going to be something there that they don't agree on. And also, stop, just STOP making homosexuality and LGBTQ+ sexuality bigger than it is, what I mean is, it is sin just as it is sin to steal, just as it is sin to be gluttonous. Yes, I may have sounded a bit off in that last statement, but I couldn't get better words, again, bear with me.
We are all in a fallen world, I'm proof that we can all change, God can change more in five seconds than you can doubt that change in five years. So friends, let's be friends. Jesus ate with sinners, He wasn't a sinner, I am, but you know, I'm meant to show love to all. Not hate a single one.
Edit: kinda still AM bi, but I'm not a practicing bisexual. I live and will continue to live as, a heterosexual
I think you did a great job with this comment thank you for that
@@jeffreyhunt7880 thank you
Being gay is not a sin also god don't exist
@@blackghost6265 according to your morals, that is. And also, please don't assert that God doesn't exist on me who does believe in Him.
Rakscha Jesus nether existed tho
As long as you say “no homo” it’s fine
I say no hetero
@@cally406 I say no homo phobia
Nope.
That’s... not how it works.
@@danielreed3718 it’s a joke lol
Judgement Day is going to be one heck of a knee slapper; So many people assuming they can lecture GOD on morality and sin. Pull up the popcorn, grab a chair, and shout praises to the Lord!
Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
@The Persona
Matthew 10: 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
Good luck with that, mate. ;)
Hunter's Moon ok boomer
Haha, it’s always funny how long you people wait for your imaginary God(s) to come and show us the error of our ways. But keep on waiting fool, because religion will soon die out for good and the evil that is religion will finally cease to exist and we can get on we the progress of science!
Hunter's Moon ok boomer
I very much can lecture this particular God on these two things.
Especially when he himself has blood on his hands according to your story.
I wonder how many people watched past the 01:45 mark before commenting and/or disliking. If only there was a statistic for that.
U realize the puzzle pieces still fit together right? lol
Also, “one flesh” is the nastiest term this crusty old dude could have used
@@teapunk1290 He is a dirty old man. When I was kid instinct would have made me runaway from him no joke.
I really appreciate the personal examples of brokenness in personality. I'm a gay Christian wrestling a lot with these issues, and I hear a lot of Christians say they don't think they're better than queer people, but the humility to actually confess those deep-seated things makes a big difference
If you are strugglong then listen to John Corvino and Matthew Vine and not this false priest.
How did I get here........ I’m an atheist.
Big oof
I feel you man,
You obviously have questions and moral inquiry that are inconsistent with the way of the world.
😂
At least you are an honest atheist! 😆. There are some things that science can't explain. The transition from non life to life is one. For years I was stuck in the 4 walks of religion and it stinks. I watched a video called The Last Reformation. I went out and did the same things and saw the same results. People got supernaturally healed on the spot. The dynamics changed from a religious form to a living experience.
I love how people act like we have a choice. Fortunately, I'm happy being who I am, and you should also be happy with yourself.
waldo lol okay but last time I checked when I was four I made my barbies gay and I didn’t choose to do that lol. I couldn’t force myself to like men if I wanted to. You’re brainwashed and toxic.
@@mrpatrickstar16
Jesus was way cool
Everybody liked Jesus
Everybody wanted to hang out with him
Anything he wanted to do, he did
He turned water into wine
And if he wanted to
He could have turned wheat into marijuana
Or sugar into cocaine
Or vitamin pills into amphetamines
He walked on the water
And swam on the land
He would tell these stories
And people would listen
He was really cool
If you were blind or lame
You just went to Jesus
And he would put his hands on you
And you would be healed
That's so cool
He could've played guitar better than Hendrix
He could've told the future
He could've baked the most delicious cake in the world
He could've scored more goals than Wayne Gretzky
He could've danced better than Barishnikov
Jesus could have been funnier than any comedian you can think of
Jesus was way cool
He told people to eat his body and drink his blood
That's so cool
Jesus was so cool
But then some people got jealous of how cool he was
So they killed him
But then he rose from the dead
He rose from the dead, danced around
Then went up to heaven
I mean, that's so cool
Jesus was way cool
No wonder there are so many Christians
@Fat kid Productions ““In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him.”
John 1:1-7 ESV
www.bible.com/59/jhn.1.1-7.esv” He can heal all your brokenness my dude. All the confusion. In jesus name. i had identity issues and He has healed me. He loves u bruh! He doesnt want u to suffer and He sees ur suffering- that was intended. but it was the result of the fall of humanity. (Adam and Eve) He loves u dearly. He has felt all the emotions u have too for He experienced it himself. that is why He died for u. To take ur burdens so u wouldnt have to... our own creator sacrificing himself for his own children. He yells, “I LOVE YOU!” to you. even if u dont love him back. JOHN 1:10-11 (if ur interested or doubting in Him read the word or ask him to come into ur heart. all u need is to believe jesus is lord and savior and that he died and was risen back from the dead!) “*in the world he was, and the world through him was made, and the world did not know him: He came unto his own, and his own received him not.* if u ever want to truly accept Him and believe in Him and accept His free gift of love for u! Here u go. m.th-cam.com/video/vHnzVaJg68o/w-d-xo.html u seem like a cool artist who expresses bruh!An artist makes art and their art is their treasure and doesnt want bad to happen to them. but the paper has to be willing. Once i thought he was careless about his own creation. but thats not what an artist does. havent u thought about how we are like the art; His art and He is like the artist? Wouldnt He treat us kind, truly love Him as he loves us? He is the same God Who says “LOVE ENEMIES” !! hes a God of Love. “We love because he first loved us.” 1 john 14:19
He created love so He knows what true love is. He is like a father to his son or daughter who is about to fall off a cliff. He restricts us from things becoz he knows itll make us fall❤️😭. He is the same God Who says “LOVE ENEMIES” !! hes a God of Love. “We love because he first loved us.” 1 john 14:19
@@mrpatrickstar16 read deuteronomy 22:28
:D
The 10 commandments don’t say anything about homosexuality. The passages in the Bible that address homosexuality are man’s interpretation or surmising of what God wants. This does not make homosexual acts moral. Being homosexual is not a sin. Homosexual acts are.
I like how people genuinely forget about other real reasons for going to hell other than being LGBT.
Like people ...being gay or whatever, I still have other mistakes.
hydrate your soul 👋 wasn’t really expecting to se you here
also being LGBT is not even a sin
@@pastorbri it is
@@thedriper2983 nope, its not. Being homophobic however is.
@@pastorbri how???
What makes Christianity stupid? Listen to Pastor John.
I would disagree. We just going through a faze of change. Don't worry
Literally everything
Everything can be stupid which makes then good jeebus
*Holds rainbow flag *
@@chris.alexander.06 *holds up a Greek translator and the original greek bible* here, educate yourself with the mistranslations
@@Senior1650 holds up Leviticus 20:13 in the greek interliner with the greek translation. And Genesis where God make man and wife. Holds up Matthew 19 where Jesus speaks of marriage. Holds up Ephesians 5 where Paul speaks of the roles of man and wife in marriage (not husband and husband)
@@nyambsdeborah8954 god makes man and “wife” as if it’s a woman’s duty to be wife lol. Go get a life. Keep your religion to yourself.
@@SG-ji2xk 😂😂😭. Thank you for giving your opinion on the matter. But, no I won't keep my religion to myself. Seeing as we have free speech and I can speak as I please. And I do have a life! 🙂🙂
@@nyambsdeborah8954 preach it❤️
My question as a Christian ...what if you were born with those feelings and dont wanna be alone your entire life?...i cant understand why would god being all loving understanding throw me into hell for wanting to love someone? The heart wants it but you cant have it
dorian love don’t listen to him. According to Christianity, god loves all.
whatroads4x4 So you must have a terrible life to please your gods standards. I see.
whatroads4x4 What is terrible is being unable to love. That's what. I can't follow a god who doesn't care how kind you were, what you did, who you helped, the final thing that makes him judge you is the gender of who you love. Yeah, no thanks. You can do what you like but I'm not going to shut the door in love's face just because a dusty old book says so. 👍🏻
whatroads4x4 I will live my life being a good person because it's *right.*
Not to invited to some celestial being's palace.
And if God seems to think that makes me unworthy? I don't give a shit.
whatroads4x4 thank you
When you realise the Bible doesn't even have the word homosexual or lgbtqia+ in it
@J. Russell fuck off preach the bible properly or don't use it words times have moved on you can't live in todays society and follow a book written thousands of years ago. Question for you as well homosexuality wasn't acknowledged at the time so how would they write about how wrong it was. Logic flawed. I've done my research and there's nothing in the bible. You are just listening to what you want to. There's a bit in the bible wheres its been mistranslated its ment to say "man shall not sleep with boy" meaning pedophilia except its been translated to "man shall not sleep with man" that translation was created in 1940's to 1950's. So know I urge you to stop using the bible as your excuse for homophobia.
@Loeke Bolumbu your taking about cheating im just talking about loving preach the bible properly
@Loeke Bolumbu stay safe too
@@olva86 Romans 1 condemns homosexuality and also condemns the use of profanity
@@JH324 I ain't talking about Romans tell me the verse then
God makes no mistakes..
That’s why I’m gay
Yeah he makes no mistakes. He simply created you but He didn’t create your desires. Those are yours that you choose to want on your own.
lo bitch I didn’t choose to be gay
• Moonlight • stop blaming God. I like pizza because i like the taste of it, God did not put that in my heart it’s my choice to like it deliberately because of my experience tasting it throughout my life.
• Moonlight • even if you didn’t choose to be gay, the reason you are gay is because you kept identifying yourself to be gay with what you feel, watch, see, listen, and do. meaning you’re outer environment kept conditioning your mind to identify as “gay” and so on you call it “yourself” it’s not wrong, not your fault, and it is certainly NOT Gods fault. If you want change talk to God. If you just want to embrace “who you are” then that’s up to you.
lo I’m not blaming god he made me this way for a reason ✨
So someone who feels homosexual attractions isn't allowed to act on it? If you're a man attracted to a woman, you can take her out and date her but if you're a man attracted to a man you can't? It's the same thing.
@@hezecut7342 no it's completely natural and happens in many different species of animals
@@BMcCosmic We are a species just like them. Just because it happens outside of humans doesnt make any more or less natural.
hydrate your soul sis. Sis. SIS. Being gay is natural, it’s in many animals and homophobia is only in humans. Technically you homophobes are the unnatural ones here.
@@hezecut7342 so your'e telling that sin affected species other than humans? where is that in the bible?
@@Reon58 Yeah. For example: In God's perfect creation, there was no pain death or suffering. Humans didn't have to kill animals to sustain themselves because God provided the garden. Animals did the same. When sin entered our world, so did the pain, death and suffering. Now, predetors kill their prey, bacteria infects and kills, animals have limited life spans, disease affects them as well as us, forests have been deforested, animal species have gone extinct, animals are born with disabilities. Sin not only affected us but the world around us as well.
Jesus is the cure for homophobia know your cure.
oh well said.
What do you mean by this?
@@hezecut7342 homophobia is a sin, its simple what we mean.
@@hezecut7342 if the fall never took place there would be no racism, bigotry or homophobia also.
I never said homophobia was right, but that doesn't change my stance on homosexuality.
How can you judge something you’ve created and their feelings that they were born with? i don’t understand, sexuality isn’t a choice. So god made gay people to live worse because they can’t go with what they actually wanna do sexually? crazy
All these arguments just boils down to this: God says so. Then it doesn't matter if what God says is rational or not. its a belief based on faith not reason.
@@RedRiverChannel i see that
You aren't born with gay genes, you choose to be a gay. You aren't born with it, I'm Ex homosexual, and it's really a choice, and even if you are born with it, that's the reason God said to be born again.
@@stardust6745 It is a choice wheter you engage in same-sex behaviour or not - yes.
But sexuality itself is based on genetics and no conversion theraphy can change this. Similarly, you can't make a straight person sexually and romantically attracted to people of the same sex by the use of wishfull thinking.
I agree like im gay but also believe in Jesus and although in the bible it says that it’s good to be celibate for some people but that’s not for everyone like i dont wanna live my entire life in celibacy or be bound to a life that i dont feel comfortable living… so i feel like its completely unfair and i cant stand it whenever heterosexual people refer to homosexuality as just another sin …like there’s a biigggg difference between having a loving relationship with someone of the same sex vs. going out and murdering people
So, children brought up in Christian homes, who love Jesus and the Father, and then discover in their teens that they are homosexual have exchanged " the truth of God for a lie"???
John Piper, can you read the original greek? Who was Paul addressing and why? What was the cultural context for the time his epistle was written? Quite simply this is missing from your interpretation.
There are people who struggle with unwanted same sex attraction. We all have all kinds of feelings sexual or otherwise but choose not act on them because we know that acting on them has consequences in our lives.
@@anthonythistle1465 Well if someone tells a young person who is homosexual that what they feel is "sinful", an "abomination", and that they will go to a horrible place after death and suffer forever then is it any wonder that they may not want their sexuality? Even straight people can come to hate their sexuality if they are made to feel bad enough. Any action we take has consequences; and not acting also has consequences.Not acting can be a source of suffering as much as acting on any feeling.
@@DIBBY40 Feelings are not wrong in themselves but they can lead to sin. Jesus was tempted in every way but He didn't give into temptation.
@@DIBBY40 What would be the consequences of not acting on feelings of same sex attraction?
@@anthonythistle1465 A denial and loathing of your sexuality causes emotional and psychological suffering. A wise person walks between the extremes, guided by love and reason. I was that person who tried to suppress my sexuality for the sake of the Christian religion years ago. It was very damaging.
How can you judge me, when you don't even know me?
But God knows all of us, and the Bible is God-breathed.
2 Timothy 3:16, KJV: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
@@tristanjoestar6756 I’m not Christian. Bible doesn’t apply to me.
@@SG-ji2xk same like when people pull the god card it annoys me
@@Patriot_Plays are you trying to say that my god is nothing and I have to accept your Christian god? That’s wrong!
@@Patriot_Plays there are religions and customs in the world which are a lot older and deeper than your 2000 years old religion. Humans walked this earth for millions of years and successfully became one of the most influential species in nature, even before your religion was born. So stop preaching and read basic science.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging
Most of the Leviticus Verses you have listed were changed in the new testament. However homosexuality is pronounced wrong in both the old and new testament.
@@jessicajones9596 Not sure where you get you info, but it is flat out wrong. Jesus Christ put to rest the old testament - not just parts like you want it to be. Fact is Lev itself is not talking about homosexuality, unless you twist it like so many have. Fact if Fact. BS is BS, stop spreading Biblical lies.
1. Slavery in the Bible isn’t what you think slavery actually is. We think of chattel slavery, which God actually says to punish an owner for doing (Exodus 21:16). What is mentioned in the Bible is actually indentured, *consensual* servitude that ends in 7 years.
2. You cannot sell your daughter without her consent, but considering God doesn’t allow owners to beat their servants (Exodus 21:26-27) or else he has to let his servant go and pay them the allotted amount that was supposed to be given after the end of the 7 years.
3. This is a ceremonial law given to us so we could enter His temple while remaining pure. Periods are impure because of the blood stench. You are not to get close to or touch blood while in the purification process. This law and similar laws are fulfilled by Jesus Christ (and are in fact, not a sin to not do, because those laws were in context of entering the temple).
4. Animal sacrifices were done in the old testament because life created sin (Adam and Eve), so only death could remove it. This is a highly spiritual aspect in Christianity. When you kill an animal that cannot sin (a lamb), that lamb carries your sins for you and you are cleansed. Jesus Christ died on the cross for us as the final sacrifice (because He is eternal, so the cleansing of sin through Him is eternal as well). He was the lamb of God. Because of this, doing animal sacrifices today are actually deeply insulting. If you look into the deeper details of how Jesus was sacrificed, it IS the most cruel, horrid, and painful way to die.
5. This particular law is specific to the people of Israel at the time. The Sabbath was *deeply* important because it kept the nation’s covenant with God, and if it was broken, very negative consequences would occur. The Sabbath today is indeed for *us*, not for God. If we rest completely every 7th day, we will be blessed both in lifestyle and in spirit.
6. Another ceremonial law for the temple; doesn’t apply today.
7. See, disease and deformity is caused by sin. Because Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, disease, deformity, and corruption was a result. You can only know how to cause harm if you yourself can be harmed in a metaphorical sense, and so deformity comes from sin. Again, this is a ceremonial law purely for being able to witness God in the temple. He is so pure that anything sinful in contact with Him will indeed perish. And so any man with impurity, deformity, and so on (sin) will perish for He is made almost completely of sin. These laws were in fact made to protect us. God doesn’t want us to die in the temple unknowing, so He tells us who can and can’t enter.
8. This is also a ceremonial law. The reason they die is because they…would literally die in the temple. It’s not a punishment, it’s a warning.
9 + 10. All of these laws are also ceremonial laws.
To clarify on homosexuality, no, you’re not suddenly a worse scum of a human being because you are one (and to clarify, homosexuality isn’t a sin, only the actual homosexual acts as put in context by the Bible are). Homosexuality is a sin, as is lying, coveting, worrying (because you don’t trust God), and judging somebody (different from discernment and warning, which the Bible tells us to do).
I hope this helps clarify some things for you. I heavily suggest you look into the historical evidence for the resurrection, preferably a book such as “The Case for Christ” and “Did the Resurrection Happen…Really?” They are great, informative books. Once you get through that stage, I *heavily* suggest you go and get the book “The Evidence Bible” (KJV version which is different than the NKJV) by Ray Comfort. It’s an absolutely amazing book for answering almost all common (and uncommon) questions the unsaved typically have.
I really hope you’ll give these books a try. God bless.❤️
@@belovedbean366 Man you really twist the word of God don't you. What is clear you make un-clear, what is un-clear you make clear - God knows what untruth you spread of His words. No matter as, homosexuality is not a sin.
@@craigd9896 dude he gave you a great response why are you so hostile? It's okay to have thoughts but dont get mad when youre wrong. All love brother
I refuse to be enslaved to an evil God. As my own god, I can do what I want.
@@Martian_XX There is no such thing as Satan. Even according to the Bible, Satan works for your evil God.
@@Martian_XX I don't believe in Satan or your evil God. However, since you seem to believe in both, I am explaining that according to your evil Bible, Satan works for your evil God.
@@Martian_XX Satan really, why does god let Satan exist?
@@Martian_XX If your god is all powerful and all good, explain childhood cancer, natural disasters?
Oh not Sky Daddy’s Book Club telling me that being gay is bad 🤦♀️
First of all, there is no human being on this planet no matter what age that does not know procreation can only be accomplished through heterosexual intercourse. This pastor and many others like him assume all people who are not heterosexual are totally oblivious to this knowledge.
The problem is none of these pastors can legitimately defend or justify the biblical punishment (being put to death) to those who practice homosexual behaviour. This is what really angers the gay community as a whole.
Except the punishment isn't death; it's being reprimanded by God during the rapture. Old testament laws are not Christian laws.
many heterosexuals can't reproduce though and many homosexuals have.
pastor brian
Oh wow ..... that’s amazing! What news link do you have to this story of two men or two women that had sexual relations and created a baby ? 🤔
@@Laflamablanca76 lots, many gay people use a surragate mother, or doner or some are married and have had kids that way also, gay people are not sterile u know...assume ur not well educated on gay people...?
As heterosexuals use oral and anal sex more than gays I assume u know many news stories where they had a baby anally or orally?
Um your wrong I know loads of gays who had children. Not what you would call natral way but then again I also know loads of straight people who can't have children an have use sperm donnar or surrogate mothers test tube..
Homosexuality is NOT wrong.
Exactly
So is incest
It is
@@bluetiger5852 No it is not.
@@Nonalhomophobie Your creator has decided that, unless you can biologically change humans and be the new God.
Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
That’s the thing. Love isn’t about sex. People can love each other and not have sex. People can have sex but not love each other. No restrictions on love, but yes there are restrictions on sex.
"What makes Homosexuality wrong?"
nothing lmao, because it isnt wrong.
Did you even watch the video?
But it is wrong
@@mikediller8522 Did you even read a basic biology book? You'll find that a lot of animals are gay.
It is wrong and sinful as it goes against the natural and divine order. There is a spiritual root to homosexuality and I would encourage you to seek prayer and counseling.
"What Makes Homosexuality Wrong?"
Define what you mean by wrong in this case.
No definition? Somehow I'm not surprised.
Smth u shouldn't do?
@@Amine-om7yj Why would you call it something you shouldn't do?
@@cnault3244 I don't know why, but yt is deleting my messages.
@@Amine-om7yj I would guess because they violated the youtube guidelines.
Erm... doesn't the bible *also* say that god loves everyone no matter what? To my knowledge this isn't a valid argument.
Yes God does love everyone. That doesn't mean He has to agree with everything that people do. A parent can still love their kid even if their kid is doing drugs. A parent can love their kid and think doing drugs is wrong at the exact same time. God can do the same. Try thinking before making comments like this
@@sudeepjoseph69Maybe think before you assume what *GOD* , who is a being above all others, thinks, and focus on what scripture says he thinks, which is that everyone who believes in him should have eternal life. Nothing about LGBTQA+ being an exception.
@@breadish9335 I really think you have a limited understanding of scripture. For some reason you believe homosexuality is all that separates you from God. No, all sin separates you from God okay? That's why we need to believe in Jesus's sacrifice and be born again.
Let me ask you. Did you ever even study the scriptures? Or you just use google for your opinions. Because right now it seems like you've never studied the scriptures.
@@sudeepjoseph69 well that's not what I'm talking about lol. I am perfectly aware sin seperates you from god, but homosexuality is not a sin. That's what I'm getting at :) Sorry for any misunderstanding
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” Leviticus 18:22. "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders" 1 Corinthians 6:9-20 it says so. You're wrong. You are absolutely wrong dude. The BIble makes it VERY clear that homosexuality is a sin. IT's NOT okay. Because it is against God. Jesus in Matthew 5 talkes about the idea of marriage, and that no one should have sexual intercourse with the same gender. You need to read the Bible again and rethink your facts. An God also it says in Genesis 2:24 it says "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" nothing there says that a man shall cleave to another man, or for a women to cleave for another man. You have been proven wrong multiple times. You are wrong. The Bible makes it very clear the homosexuality is in fact a sin. God makes it clear. This is the truth. It's time you learned the actual truth. Wich you get offended by! If you wanna look for the truth yourself, look no further than the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible does it say homosexuality is a good thing. Whoever told you that homosexuality is straight up stupid and is lying to you. And you are complete stupid for believing false information. The truth is that homosexuality is a sin. It says it in Leviticus 18:22, 1 corinthians 6:9-20 and Genisis 2:24 and Matthew 5. and that is the complete truth. There is no other way around it. There is no other way than the truth. That truth in written in the book called the Bible, wich is God's word. God's word is the only truth and the only truth there is. You have fallen into the way of the world and satan. Satan's mission is to bring good chirstians like us into a trap. Wich you yourself have fallen into. And his tactics are clever. Don't fall into them.
Leviticus 18:22 was mistranslated.
To help prove this is to insert the second definition of זכר which is not only "a male," but is also "remembrance." The next two words are a Verb-Phrase;
לֹא תִשְׁכַּב
This phrase is addressed to both genders and scholars never point this out, but it equally means:
"Not shall you(m) lay."
*and*
"Not shall she lay."
So how is this?
Because the future tense Hbrw verb to the "second person, masculine" --> you ...is both written and vocalized the same for the "third person, feminine" --> she.
But because neither of the necessary Pronouns are added for distinction, specifying either or both persons, (like in Verses of Lev. Chapter 15) we have no choice but to assume both are being addressed equally.
And the "Kicker" against the mistranslation is the next Hebrew word, משכבי which by the time you come across it in this Verse, you've just read it for the second time in the Holy Torah.
This is where the Rabbinical (and Churchianity agrees with it) "Law of First Mentions" comes into view: Because the very first time that this word "Mishcabey" appears is in Genesis 49:04 where Reuben loses his Birthright for laying his father's concubine wife, Bilhah. Father Israel used that word as a replacement for "Peelegesh = Concubine" from earlier in Genesis 35:22, which is also the Start of that particular story.
So it only condemns the Sin of Reuben and not Homosexuality at all. But I know that not many people can handle this truth, because they've been programmed to believe something implicitly by those who don't really "search out the Scriptures for themselves." Such folks as according to the Sages in the Karaite Sect of Orthodox Judaism, are living in Idolatry, while staying stiffnecked in their ignorance, preferring to hold all their faith in the "Poison pen of the Scribes" as said in Jeremiah 8:08.
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If you have read this and will continue hating those LGBT Folks, you will answer for *why* you didn't "study this out" when the Risen Messiah, Yeshua, calls you to give an account on Yom HaMishpat = Judgement Day.
Robbi Huffine there are several other bible verses against it. Also I don't hate them I just don't support them.
@Robbi Huffine, then why is having sex(we're talking STRAIGHT sex too) without making kids a sin in the Bible? Shall I elaborate and show a proof?
Thousands of years of proven and well-respected history disagrees with you. The Jews knew, and still know, homosexuality is wrong. The early Christians knew it was wrong. Most modern Christians know it is wrong. It’s only modern western culture that has suddenly decided to go against that. Why did God make man and woman, and join them together in marriage? Why not the same sex?
If you asked Jesus if homosexuality was honouring to God, what do you think He would say? Be honest.
@@alexthompson8977 then ur anti God mate.......
@@ProMaxElite Modern religious Jews thinks homosexuality is a sin, the origional Jews and Jews in faith agree its ok to be gay.
No matter who you are or where you are on life's journey - God loves you.
Hetro or Homo or any other sexual - God Loves You.
God created you as you are, be the best you, you can be no matter your sexuality.
Happy Pride day Around the World this Sun 6/24/18 where millions and millions of LGBTQ+ March with Pride.
Know God loves you as God created you to be, does not matter your sexuality or who you fall in love with, God loves you.
Valprgis - Interesting you know God's intent for Eden, where just two made the world. How much incest do you thing there was?
Marriage and the Bible -
A trio of Iowa-based religious scholars penned an op-ed, reminding readers that despite popular opinion, the Bible does not simply define marriage as between one man and one woman.
The argument against same-sex marriage is wholly unsustainable debate about marriage equality often centers, however discretely, on an appeal to the Bible. Unfortunately, such appeals often reflect a lack of biblical literacy on the part of those who use that complex collection of texts as an authority to enact modern social policy.
The Bible's definition of marriage can be confusing and contradictory. A primary example of this is the religious book's stance on polygamy, a practice that was embraced by prominent biblical figures Abraham and David. Various Bible passages mention not only traditional monogamy, but also self-induced castration and celibacy, as well as the practice of wedding rape victims to their rapists.
There are some people he may never be able to convince.
Many politicians have made a career out of using the Bible to justify opposition to hot-button topics like same sex marriage.
Those that use the Bible aren't necessarily interested in the truth or the complexity of the Bible. They are looking for one ancient sound bite to convince people what they already believe. Anyone who argues that "the Bible speaks plainly on one issue, especially something as complicated as marriage ... haven't take the time to read all of it.
Sorry I don’t believe in god.
OK, does not change the Biblical fact - homosexuality is ok, and God loves everyone, not just some.
Homosexuality is not a sin. God loves you.
Show me a verse that says - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning
I can't speak for people, Christian or otherwise - neither can you.
The Bible does not say homosexuality is a sin. Where in the Bibe dose is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? That will be by question going forward. If ya can't answer it - Homosexuality - people in love, are not sinning.
The idea that you can say things like this because you read it in some book written by ancient people just because it feels right or spiritual to you is, to me, an epitome of selfishness.
@Olufsen It is not true.
@Olufsen I am not a proven liar. I have exposed your own lies and madness, as well as vicious slander against me, your nerve to accuse me of ad hominem when that's exactly what you do against me when you slander me.
The Bible is crap and easily disproved by science.
The modern idea that the universe created itself in such a sophisticated, orderly way requires more faith than believing in a powerful, intelligent creator. Your garden does not arrange itself into order, it requires ordering by an intelligence (the gardener) and then slowly becomes disorderly unless maintained. The universe operates in the same way - the planets orbit the sun in a perfectly orderly way, the sun rises and sets at the same time in the same way, the sun is the perfect distance from the earth to sustain life..and so on and so forth. The universe itself testifies to an almighty intelligence that is continually upholding order, it runs like clockwork.
We all worship something - the atheist worships himself and his intelligence and reason. The Christian worships the God who created a perfect universe that has been corrupted by mans sin, and he also worships that same God who came to earth in the form of a man - the man Christ Jesus, who came as a servant to humble himself unto death, death on the cross, to pay the penalty for the sin which man has rightly deserved. I pray that you turn from worshiping anything else and turn back to the creator who died to save sinners.
@@olufsen8394 Your own replies prove you are a pathologically lying, mentally ill and vicious sociopath.
I accept science,you spit on it all the time.
I defeated you once more.
@@beaZ136 There is no creator of the universe until yu prove otherwise.
"the planets orbit the sun in a perfectly orderly way,"
Not at all. In the long term the orbits are unpredictable and chaotic.
"the sun rises and sets at the same time in the same way"
Wrong, even that is not predictable in the long run.
"the sun is the perfect distance from the earth to sustain life."
And in a billion years, it's Mars which will be at the right distance.
"The universe itself testifies to an almighty intelligence that is continually upholding order, it runs like clockwork. "
No it doesn't. The existence of the universe and its alleged order and harmony (which are illusionary because of all the chaos that happens in it) are no proof that god exists. Tomorrow a meteorite could wipe out the life on Earth. A god would not create life on a planet to leave it exposed to a certainty of extinction in the long run.
"We all worship something - the atheist worships himself and his intelligence and reason."
No, that is not what atheism means. Atheism is the lack of belief in any deity. That does not involve a worship of anything including the self.
"The Christian worships the God who created a perfect universe "
You've got no scientific proof of that.
I lost almost all of my brain cells listening to this and reading the comments. This is just dumb...
JustStenn
You must have ..... you made brain cells one word 🤦🏻♂️
@@Laflamablanca76 Braincells is correct.
Yeah I’m seriously dying here reading the comments and in temptation to argue and I hate it
what we should be asking is what makes homophobia wrong?
were do it say that scriptures have no thing about homophobia. ?
there is not word of Homophobia in the Scriptures that be the word from the devil
kutie k straight people have anal sex
No. What we should be asking is what makes heterophobia wrong.
The video is based on unbiased truth and you call yourself a pastor brian? You are no real pastor. You are a servant of Satan.
So not having the same belief makes you homophobic, u sick in the head🙄
You can’t say being gay is bad and then use the Bible as your reason. It’s a belief not a fact. If you want to say something like that use facts instead of religion. Yes you can believe whatever you want but that doesn’t make it right
"Yes you can believe whatever you want but that doesn't make it right"
Okay then, well I'll use that exact same logic on your comment. You can believe that using the Bible as a reason is not valid, but that's just your belief. You can believe it if you want to, but that doesn't make it right. The Bible is a valid reason.
@@sudeepjoseph69 Yeah man…great use of logic… You literally just professed a sort of nihilistic view of the world, where nothing has objective meaning. The original comment is clearly referring to the validity of the Bible as an OBJECTIVE reason. It is not. It is a religious text; a set of principles, not a scientific argument. I get you believe your religion is right and factual, but you have to realize at some point in your life that it is based strictly on faith, not rational thinking. Saying the Bible is not an objective argument is not a belief. It is literally a fact. It’s the same with all religions. I’d like to see you respond to a Muslim man trying to define your entire world based on their “objective” religion. This isn’t even to say the existence of God isn’t a fact. What we’re talking about is the interpretation of his teachings.
@@f-35alightningii79 No, it's not an interpretation. God speaks directly through His prophets. Those are His words.
@@sudeepjoseph69 That’s exactly what I said. You have faith he’s speaking through the prophets YOU CHOSE to listen to. You know there are religions other that yours, right?
@@f-35alightningii79 Sure I have some faith. But I know for sure those are the prophets of God. Don't you know the requirements for prophethood? The prophets I trust fit all of them. It's not just mere faith.
I'm atheist, so you telling me that "God doesnt love me" is basically like you saying that your imaginary freind deosnt want to invite me to his tea party
No one’s saying that. God still loves you even if you’re an atheist. He loves you so much that he respects your freedom to reject him and spend eternity seperate from him. Despite you being atheist, his offer of salvation still stands. Only the fool says in his heart that there is no god.
@@mmarr986 if only people were as open minded as you, thank you
@@mmarr986 Until someone proves a god exists, there is no reason top believe a god exists.
"his offer of salvation still stands"
Salvation from what?
@Genderfluid _ Enderman Lol
This is why suicide rates is high and happiness index is low in non religious countries. Too much freedom will make a person not acknowledge their limits, things that are wrong and from doing wrong.
I’m leaving and I’m taking my gay!
@Uu RinbowYT uU
sis u may leave but God will never leave you. He loves u so much. accept the love before you die.
the girl in this video that i just watched stood out to me... she said “I‘m a happy woman (scroll down to link below)
this may sound like a lot of work but u know... this world is what is “a lot of work”. A world where things are hidden from us, the hidden agendas. were always taught in schools all the things we “need to know” but do we really “need to know” those things? Do u not see the agendas they push upon us and want us to support? We should rather.. learn the truth. in the bible, Jesus says “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” and This same creator made us to be Male and female... not with different sexualities. The same creator, he Made Man and woman to be able to create. The reason why he restricts us from doing things is because its to protect us. Including murder, lying, stealing, cheating- because these things cause not only a SPIRITUAL DEATH, but these sins including the first sin of adam and eve has caused PHYSICAL DEATH “Romans 6:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” and He says that when we sin, we are literally enslaved to it. “But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.” when man and woman no longer become man and woman, the creation for babies no longer exists. how will a man and a man make creation again? How will a woman and a woman make a babiee!!! The evil (which is ooposite of God) literally stops creation. the reason why Jesus restricts us from homosexuality because homosexuality is NOT love, its lust. purely lust. and it enslaves us to it. I struggle with both lust and other things and u know the feeling of being “free?”This homosexuality lifestyle is not as “freeing” as it looks. U see, even the WORD says “And no wonder! For Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” this LUST. the feeling of it all... masquerades as light but actually fills us up with darkness. THIS isnt true love. For we are being enslaved to it day by day as it is being normalized in this world gone rogue. a fallen world. We will see: “LOVE IS LOVE💕” and “PRIDE 🏳️🌈” but the Bible says “1 Corinthians 13:4-8 (NIV)
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is NOT proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” *LOVE DOES NOT BOAST* *Love is not proud.* and yet what do we see today with this lifestyle? PRIDE. arrogance. a perversion of what was made to be good turned into evil. ROMANS 1:27 “In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.” This lifestyle is Using people for their bodies than seeing them for their heart. Defiling the body. and Degrading our bodies which were originally created to be temples sister gubby... “So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies” Romans 1:24... but thank God for his mercy that even if we are evil and have literally gone against Him despite of his own protection for us.. He still JOHN 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” and He loves u so so much Tina. or whoever is reading this. for he IS love. True love. Yes we have time to repent but... We must repent before its too late.. Accept his love. its better to be safe now than sorry later. i struggle a lot too. but i Know by abiding in Him i will be more like the person He truly made me to be.. rather than what this world has changed me into.. We are art in Him and he is our artist. dont let this world scribble on u and tell u otherwise. Jesus loves u so much ✨❤️😊 th-cam.com/video/v--BuHXVA70/w-d-xo.html
waldo god loving me is kinda gay tho😳😳😳
@nuggetnugget11 •3• *its true love* - a creator loving his own children. im sorry for the pain this world has caused. God bless may u find peace in his love. “
Ephesians 3:16-18 New International Version (NIV)
16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ. *And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God*
waldo
I trust that god knows right from wrong. So I trust god, not books that many have been written by the hand of a human. Humans can be so incorrect, but being gay is not bad. Love is god. And sometimes, love is gay.
Dear Waldo, if a woman and a woman or a man and a man love each other, they may not be able to make a child but they can raise one. Would you like have two different s*x people who don’t love each other be your parents and have to fight through it just because some human who wrote a book that has been passed through many generations therefor many different people which makes it so it is probably way different from the original thoughts?
Nothing, literally *nothing* makes homosexuality wrong.
It is ungodly, which makes it wrong. It is literally anti-God.
God is a perpetual marriage of The Spirit, The Son, and The Father, inextricably bound into ONE. And every human consists also of this triune and heterogeneous structure.
YOU (person #3) = Mom (person #2) + Dad (Person #1)
Heterogeneity in our case is fulfilled by sex designations. God created His Image in each of us in that males and females differ but are bound as ONE, to create a three-in-one union that reflects His Triune Nature. (Gen 1:26-27)
God did this for a purpose. And we see it in the very next verses of Scripture following man's creation:
"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it..."
This is why homosexuality and other non-heterosexual schemes are detestable to God. It runs contrary to His Triune Image, and His declared aim to use mankind to replicate and glorify It across the earth. "Gay marriage" is an oxymoronic attempt by The Enemy, hatched in hell and kicked upon the surface of the earth, to make man party to a worldwide corruption and mockery of God Himself. It is a slap in His Adorable Face, contrary and hostile to His very Nature and purpose. For this reason Christians must stand resolutely against it.
@@oscarbenigsen4538You have no proof god exists, that he has a problem with homosexuality, and why.
Births needing a man and a woman to procreate is no argument to anything. Relationships are about feelings and love.
Your homophobia is detestable to humankind and nature. Now shut up you fanatic. Gay marriage is real because marriage does not belong to your religion. You are not a true Christian. You are a homophobic sc*mbag with no feelings.
Yawn yawn yawn yawn.. The arrogance of people. What 2 concenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is nothing to do with me or anyone else....
VASHNA NERADA THANK YOU!
@Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler what...?
Only, they bring what they want to in privacy of their own home to the middle of Main St. with their “pride” parades and forcibly teach it in schools to our children. Your lie is exposed.
@@keithwilson6060 no they don't they educate others that some people are gay. What's wrong with teaching others that through their life's they will meet gay people bi people trans people straight people... What wrong with teaching others about that...there no lie but what has been exposed is you ignorance and your homophobia.. I'm perfectly OK with my sexuality I don't feel threatened by others. .
@@keithwilson6060 Keith I'm sorry you're so insecure in your own sexuality that you feel threatened by others... That's on you.. An they don't FORCE it on anyone stop exaggerating so you feel better in your own self.. Next you be saying it's unnatural because the bible says so.... Is that why your so homophobic....
Nothing.
Nothing makes homosexuality a sin, except people like this so called pastor who dose not follow Jesus Christ.
@Kosher Shut up, sociopath. You are the one in denial. There is no god and there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. The Bible is crap.
"homosexuality is self idolatry". If thats the case, why are not all narcissists homosexuals?
The real question is, if that’s true, then how come there are gay people who aren’t narcissistic?
This video is blatantly BS and it’s hilarious.
And why do some gay people hate themselves and have low self worth? Exactly. Homophobes can’t stop spewing all this bullshit propaganda
If killing is murder, why don’t all murderers murder kids?
If idolatry is worshiping another God(s), why don’t all non-Christian people worship *all* the other Gods?
Or if worshiping Buddha is idolatry, why aren’t all theist non-Christians buddhists?
There are different kinds of self-idolatry, and homosexuality is considered to be one of them.
Nothing. Being gay isn't wrong.
1. Because God says so (logical fallacy: appeal to authority)
2. Roman 1, 24-29 says so. (logical fallacy: appeal to authority)
3. Paul C.6 says so. (logical fallacy: appeal to authority)
4. Man and women becomes one flesh (logical fallacy: appeal to authority, is-ought fallacy)
5. John Pipers personal Interpretation of Paul (logical fallacy: appeal to authority).
John Pipers is an article of faith - not reason. Therefore, I have no good reason to follow his claims.
It's only a logical fallacy if you reject the authority of God, in which case, why are you even looking into scriptural answers to questions? If you reject God's authority, you will not find answers in scripture.
The modern idea that the universe created itself in such a sophisticated, orderly way requires more faith than believing in a powerful, intelligent creator. Your garden does not arrange itself into order, it requires ordering by an intelligence (the gardener) and then slowly becomes disorderly unless maintained. The universe operates in the same way - the planets orbit the sun in a perfectly orderly way, the sun rises and sets at the same time in the same way, the sun is the perfect distance from the earth to sustain life..and so on and so forth. The universe itself testifies to an almighty intelligence that is continually upholding order, it runs like clockwork.
We all worship something - the atheist worships himself and his intelligence and reason. The Christian worships the God who created a perfect universe that has been corrupted by mans sin, and he also worships that same God who came to earth in the form of a man - the man Christ Jesus, who came as a servant to humble himself unto death, death on the cross, to pay the penalty for the sin which man has rightly deserved. I pray that you turn from worshiping anything else and turn back to the creator who died to save sinners.
@@beaZ136 You're just repeating the old argument from design lol. It's already been debunked a long time ago.
What Makes Homosexuality Wrong?
A bunch of old men saying so, and using the idea that the previous guy said so. Then the old men use that to control others through emphasizing simple binary thinking and their own authoritarianism. It's even better when they reference mythical old guys like Moses and Jesus. Then they can claim those mythic men said whatever they want to assert, and claim the right of interpretation.
No way you called Jesus a myth 💀, you have to be one of the most idiotic person to step foot on this Earth, what makes Jesus a myth when scientists PROVES his existence? Are your feelings hurt because being gay IS a sin? Oh better yet is it because you'll go to hell 💀, go read the bible dumbass and do some research the bible is more real then you think. And I swear all you brain dead swamps just want to drag people down with your stupid ideologies. Being gay is a choice 💀
@@xaio523 How does science prove his existence? Science rarely proves anything.
@@UnconventionalReasoning I never said science proved his existence you fuckin tard. I said it proves the events in the bible.
@@xaio523 How does science prove the events of the bible? The events of the bible aren't even consistent.
@@UnconventionalReasoning You just keep coming back with stupid questions instead of actually doing your own damn research, and the fact you say the contests of the bible are inconsistent is crazy when you never read it, and I would explain but your ignorance would probably get in the way.
What Makes Homosexualty Wrong? Nothing, God does not care about your sexuality.
Laughs in lesbian who doesnt support any religion there for your rules dont aply to me*
Just because you say there's no God doesn't mean you won't have to answer to him
@@JH324 Just because you believe there is a god doesn't mean there is one.
@@Nonalhomophobie praying for you
@@JH324 Your prayers have no power on me.
@@Nonalhomophobie God does
This men doesn't think. He only repeat copies of the bibel, I study in the university Teologia and I know, for sure this is not what they believe.
....or apply. Oh yeah......
Short version: No
Long version: So long as consent is involved by both parties, and made sure to get tested for STDs and use protection when they think about getting down to the jumpy business, then it's not wrong.
Just because both parties have consent doesn't mean it's right.
I am gay and i am proud of it.
I'm a LGBT supporter and I'm proud of it
Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-27 say what they say. Jesus loves you and despises sin. Repent (quit sinning) daily. Have a good day
I am still gay🌈🌈🌈 and i still like men 😁, homosexuality is natural
@@dr.rummankhan1818 sorry, I shouldn’t have said it like that. Rather, your feelings don’t erase what the Bible says. Have a good day
Let's see if you'll be still proud in hell
Nothing makes it wrong
They marriage is wrong
Y'all lust
Let me guess,you think we are going to hell
@@JJ-yg1yh I bet you do think that
@@JJ-yg1yh Shut up, you silly little kid.
I'm pretty much into women, but I have had a few homosexual experiences in my and, honestly, my health improved.
Anybody who claims it's unhealthy is lying through their teeth.
It sounds to me like he's getting answers from literary authors who have been dead for centuries who chose to attribute their words to one of the many thousand Gods that have been believed in over the course of the human race's existence instead of thinking for himself and applying real world logic.
What makes an arrogant, know-it-all pastor who thinks he has all the gobbledegook answers to everybody else's sin, wrong?
Not an arrogant pastor. Your complaint is not with him but with Almighty God.
Thanks for making my point. John Piper considers himself and God to be one and the same person.
@@1dodgelover Its judgement to say that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Andrew Onorio This only works under the presumption that God is real...so you're wrong
@@dgbx6 What makes an arrogant know it all commenter on youtube with 1 subscriber on their channel who considers herself judge of all able to comment in such a dismissive way?
it’s easy to say it’s wrong when you’re straight and never experienced same sex attraction
@@1GaspardDeLaNuit God does not exist. And even if he did there is no proof he said that, or that it is wrong.
@@1GaspardDeLaNuit No, sorry. The existence of the universe does not prove the existence of a god.
@@1GaspardDeLaNuit So you can't explain why it is dumb.
@@1GaspardDeLaNuit No you can't. Basically your whole comment is "the universe exist, therefore a god exists". You can prove why strawberries are healthy because of its components and their known effect to the human health ; you haven't given any evidence that god created the universe.
I use my brain, and part of yours ; you don't.
@@Nonalhomophobie God is real, the bible is the truth, and you are ignorant if you truly believe that God doesn't exist, and to even further support homosexuality, so even if you didn't believe God was real you still support this homo nonsense, anyways the universe is proof for God's existence and better yet the fact that scientists PROVES that events in the bible ACTUALLY happened, you should do you're research.
GOD bless you Pastor John.... watching this gave me more understanding of this spirit that alot of us are battling. I thank GOD for using you..this will deliver alot of souls as it did mine🙏stay blessed
Same here. Jesus is the only way
@@Fabian7227 Yes he is💪🏿Be encouraged fam
@@kenilworth_katrina Hey, I felt attracted to a guy once. I don't believe in God. Religion is overall a weakness. (I'm just tryna annoy you also those are my opinions I'm just being self aware)
Quick question...Is it still wrong to have a gay character I'm a comic/story
I'm planning on making a comic with my own original characters and I have one who's gay and it's one of a major part in it..
Jay ZoneArts depend on what's the message behind your comic, and what's the significance of that particular distinction of this character. Such as, why is it a major part of it, what about it is needed to carry out the message of the story.
At the end of the day, if it's something pushing to glorify the sin, then it's worth noting and self-critique, that goes for any sinful trait.
FEE LYNN ew no...my story isn't a romantic story.. I just have a character that happens to be gay..
FEE LYNN it's a futuristic anthro story and magic supernatural stuff..it's yeah hehe
+FEE LYNN, I don't think it's biblical to hate homosexual people and become anti-gay activists. Having sinful desires for unnatural relations is just as sinful as the desires to steal, to lie, to hate etc., but Jesus came to break the bondage of sin. Our reverence and love for God should result in true compassion for those who are struggling, because there are homosexual people who have listened, their hearts changed, and turned away from that sin.
Struggles against sin are in all of our lives, no matter our sexual orientation. If we're against anything at all, it should be sin itself, and more importantly we should be fighting FOR love, faith, and righteousness in salvation because of what Christ did for us.
btw, your profile picture is very unsettling. I hope you would seek God in all matters and honor Him in everything you do, including your writing.
as an art student pursuing a career in visual development and color design, I was simply commenting on the visual signals that the colors communicated. The hues just seemed a little garish, sorry if I misunderstood you. I just wanted to say that our emphasis as Christians is to fight all sin and embrace our identity in Christ to fight sin with God's strength, and our stance on issues like sexual orientation shouldn't cause people to misunderstand our stance to be against people stuck in those struggles. your writing felt too violently against the people themselves
Its your judgement thats a sin, two people in love is not a sin. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Homosexuality being wrong is a cultural assessment from the primitive majority. It's not a universal wrong and certainly not a sin. Homosexuals are only about 5% of humanity. You really get stuck on the tiniest most irrelevant things.
Paul was a primitive man who was afraid of comets. Paul didn't make universal policy and doesn't make universal policy.
A man and a woman do not become one flesh. They become "one" team.
I'm gay
ew
Same
You should be proud, and GrantBurgerss14 should stfu
@GrantBurgees14 Awww look guys a roach🥺
Are you pro-life? How does an anti-gay attitude impact uterine health and viability of embryos, fetuses, and infants? How much stress does it produce within the body?
You see, it’s interesting how Christians want more babies to born and tell people that abortion is wrong and to not have sex if they don’t want a baby. Now the funny thing is, they don’t like it when people have sex but can’t produce a baby, so which is it? Force un consenting women to have babies or to stop a form of sex that cannot result in a baby?
Our sexuality is not only a result of the environment we grew up in. Being gay has been found to also be a hereditary trait passed down. They have also found chemicals like serotonin have a profound effect on who we are sexually attracted too. Testosterone tells our body we are male. Estrogen tells our body we are female. While in the womb sometimes chemicals don’t develop properly. Some are born feeling they are in the wrong body. Like a male feels female. They don’t choose this their brain chemistry is different than straight people. It’s NOT A SIN TO BE YOURSELF. SHAME ON ANYONE WHO JUDGES THAT.
We are born sinful by nature. Being myself is letting those sinful desires control me. So me being a murderer by nature should not be judged either?
Hezekiah Logan We are talking about two different things here, you are talking about a more so insane mental disorder and they are talking about a harmless one.
Age and gender cannot be changed. That is the truth. There is no spectrum. Your "woke" bs doesn't work on me nor anyone who has common sense.
@@hezecut7342 Thank you lol people never point this out
@Hezecut Hah, I lived with that logic for half of my life and you know where it got me? Absolute misery and on the brink of suicide. Christians cannot even fathom what they're asking homosexuals to do. Live their lives completely celibate and alone while despising themselves until their bitter end. That's the expectation for a gay christian to be worthy of heaven.
I decided I cannot live like this anymore, and I will live as both a transgender and Christian. And if that improves my wellbeing while I adhere to all other laws God has set forth for me, hopefully I can be deemed worthy of entering heaven.
Instances of homosexuality and transexuality occur in nature, and when it was condemned during biblical times it was because they were lustful, arrogant evil people, unlike many (not all) of today's homosexuals who aren't consumed with lust, and simply don't want to be alone for the rest of their lives.
But I was, and still sort of am a huge Christian conspiracy theorist, and without getting into all that I'll just say I've seen things that permanently prove the existence of Jesus and God in my eyes, which is why I've fought against my nature for as long as I have. But I am 24, and felt this way since I was 12, and living this way has been crippling. I'll still be a christian if I transition, just a far less miserable and far more capable one.
There is no rational argument you can present to define homosexuality as being wrong.
There surely is a wholly rational argument against homosexuality. It is obvious, sitting before us all, but because The West has been infected by the LGBTQ+ mind-virus, it will take a long time to present the case here. I know that the case is powerful because I have presented it to those who have the most interest in finding its weaknesses, and they, to a man (or whatever) fail to point out weaknesses. Moreover, TH-cam deletes my posts. Which is proof that those posts speak truth to its leftism.
Because the bible says it's wrong? No...not good enough.
It's just a book. I had literally never been approached by a deity or savior telling me it's wrong.
It more than suffices. the Bible is the most powerful book in existence and it just so happens to be the word of God, the creator and ruler of the Universe.
@@Monzerratz Partially true, but I want you to rethink that to some degree. Your homework for today. :)
What exactly would you like me to rethink? Also what is partially true and what's not? @@TikiFoamy38
@@Monzerratz Hey, I have a book that says it was written by pikachu and it says all christians should have tea parties with monitor lizards. The fact that my book was written by pikachu and exists is more than enough proof that you should be sat sipping green tea with a komodo dragon right now talking about the latest issue of What Carcass magazine.
@@Monzerratz It is absolutely not sufficient. The Bible has no power, it's full of lies and contradictions, and it is no proof god exists.
This is a really interesting response. I haven't heard it put this way before. Homosexual orientation is a brokenness which results from sin. That brokenness isn't a sin, but to act on it is.
What does this guy and other so called pastors have against homosexuals? They cannot judge or know God's mind. Homosexuals would not be on God's earth if God did not want them on Earth.
@hydrate your soul - are you talking about heterosexuals when you talk about pedophilla as most are heterosexual - its a fact. Do you have a problem with facts?
The question remains:
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
Nothing against us. Against sin. I believe the bible clearly states God's decision on the matter and that if he was in fact alright with it he would have made Jesus say so. God most certainly did make people who are now in the LGBT+ community but he did not cause them to be that way. Created people, yes. Created LGBT+, no. Sin has crept into every aspect of our lives.
Jedidiah Schmitz Ya know we are born this way, right? The earliest gay couple was even before Christianity.
Not all Christians believe this crockery. Not was even most of the Jewish rabbis who ancestors wrote the Tanakh. I will take their word over non-biblical Christian Apologetics propaganda and dogma any day of the week.
Rev George
You should not watch a pastors take on this because it’s super biased
lol you're biased.
🏳️🌈 Love is Love 🏳️🌈
So am I going to hell?
@@starlix200 depends
🏳️🌈hell yeah 🏳️🌈
YES
@s u p e r n o v a love is not just love. The reason why Jesus does not want us to be homosexuals is because homosexuality is not love. its lust. he tries to protects us from the bad yet we keep choosing it.
God Bless u supernova.
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking.”
1 corinthians 13:4-8
The Bible never refers to homosexuality as we understand it today. Oh my word, exchanging God for "ourselves", we are prone to fall in love with the same-sex, a dysfunctional form of idolatry. What a way to demonize same-sex relationships.
look up the cities of Sodom and Gomorra then read what the Creator said about these cities that were burnt up because of homosexual lifestyle; that was serve as an example to those after who would live ungodly;
Ezekiel tells us exactly why the city was destroyed
Ezekiel 16:48-50, As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord … this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.”
Apparently ARROGANT, GREEDY, SELFISH, and FAT PEOPLE were the reasons the city was destroyed! Notice that 2 members of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are never mentioned?
+Craig D yes honey, mwah mwah
I generally do not kiss
+Craig :D ok. pardon me, may I kiss you?
I don't believe in God at all, but I will say this
Straight or not, you deserve love
Lu Guzmán or not. Are you seriously saying everyone deserves love?
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Sin is unbelief and nothing else. Gay people dont make the choice but are born that way.God will not condem a gay person to hell. Jesus never condemend anyone : )
Why are you leading people astray? Matthew 23 clearly indicates that Jesus is capable of condemning/judging anyone he pleases. You can't expect a holy God to tolerate sin can you? Don't tell people to make peace with their sinful lifestyles, they need to understand that homosexuality is a trait God hates and is deserving of condemnation.
1 Corinthians 6:9 "9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
Those who desire to be right with God can take some peace with knowing that it's not the worst sin you can commit, but only if that gives them the motivation to confront it. Any 'believer' who thinks they can carry their homosexual baggage to the kingdom of heaven is only deceiving themselves.
@@oldzem homophobia is a sin and u seem ok with this sin?
Its judgement to say that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@Valpurgis Tachyon - A) you did not answer the questions, they are below for you to answer. B) if everyone is born in sin, we all go to hell, so why are you concerned about two people in love? C) A trio of Iowa-based religious scholars penned an op-ed, reminding readers that despite popular opinion, the Bible does not simply define marriage as between one man and one woman.
The argument against same-sex marriage is wholly unsustainable debate about marriage equality often centers, however discretely, on an appeal to the Bible. Unfortunately, such appeals often reflect a lack of biblical literacy on the part of those who use that complex collection of texts as an authority to enact modern social policy.
The Bible's definition of marriage can be confusing and contradictory. A primary example of this is the religious book's stance on polygamy, a practice that was embraced by prominent biblical figures Abraham and David. Various Bible passages mention not only traditional monogamy, but also self-induced castration and celibacy, as well as the practice of wedding rape victims to their rapists.
There are some people he may never be able to convince.
Many politicians have made a career out of using the Bible to justify opposition to hot-button topics like same sex marriage.
Those that use the Bible aren't necessarily interested in the truth or the complexity of the Bible. They are looking for one ancient sound bite to convince people what they already believe. Anyone who argues that "the Bible speaks plainly on one issue, especially something as complicated as marriage ... haven't take the time to read all of it.
Article: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/biblical-marriage-iowa-scholars-op-ed_n_3397304.html
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Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@Valpurgis Tachyon - Yep and that includes homosexuals. The only difference is who one falls in love with.
The questions yet again
Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
The word "homophobia or transphobia," when broken down, roughly means being scared of Trans and Gay. Its loaded suffix suggests that it's a clinical term, just as arachnophobia refers to people with a fear of spiders. The FBI are corrupt protecting Biden who is weakening our nation fearing these hater's. No surprise to see corrupt police coward to weaken our nation by fearing these hater's.
They hate Christians by dressing up like Jesus on the cross to mock Him as evil provoking Christians to hate them. They use God's name in vain. They dress up like Satan to mock God that are stones throwed at Christian's. They hate us that wars to hate God that we do hate these stones but not any person. They take and make evil the rainbow. They provoke Christians to hate which some fall in the trap that they show their trophy that they shot up. They are so starved to hate Christians that they hit us by striking at God that hates this abomination. Sin of any kind God hates because Sin separates us from God to the torments of Satan that hates us all. All that don't warn these demon infested people are the true haters. True Christians with truth that Jesus loves to set them free indeed. Turn to God will bless our Satan hated land. Turning to Satan then curse God brings more hate to our land. Yet Crazy man blames God to hate him as Satan does.
Homosexuality is NOT a sin or an abomination.
@@Nonalhomophobie Surely hath God said and you repeat what Satan used to condemn all. Now He tells you this same lie to destroy truth. Deep in your heart you knows it's a sin.
@@gemmeerobinson1803 Satan and god do not exist kiddo.
@@Nonalhomophobie Satan knows He does and you hope He don't. Your brain like Satan is way too small to erase Him out. Satan tried and failed and found out he couldn't. Now it's your turn to find this out. Satan knows his time is short and will use his last straw. Satan loves unbelief, helps it to hide better. That's what snakes do.
Homophophic means the fear of Gay. I have no fear of Gay nor the snakes that bit them.
@@gemmeerobinson1803 SATAN DOES NOT EXIST you fanatic. There is nothing satanic about being gay and accepting it. Now educate yourself, homophobe.
These types of people piss me off so much. You think someone can just turn it off? rather than torturing yourself by denying yourself your basic identity just for a possible notion of living in a non inclusive kingdom of joy that's really would still be hell even if it did exist cus ur still not yourself there it would be better to just accept who you are and make something beautiful for yourself in the world you know exist. Because i would rather live on my terms on earth and go to hell rather than living on hell on earth and then experiencing hell in heaven where they wouldn't even accept me. Also i am not even going into the topic that this all could just be as real as my dog being the supreme ruler and that the lgbt community has been persecuted for centuries on this notion. See i do not want to offend any religion but the thing to remember is that its YOUR religion and YOUR beliefs and not good enough for me to suffer for it.Also the fact that he said HOMOSEXUALITY is not natural is so false it pisses me off given the fact that over hundreds of species discluding humans have shown homosexuality temptations for millennia even humans. HOMOSEXUALITY is not knew and most ancient civilizations accepted better than most of our modern society. Also the entire god loves us argument is bs.Also if you can choose to be homosexual why would someone ever choose it in this horribly discriminative world. Every gay person prosecuted ,denied their freedom, and horribly treated chose it for fun?Also its 2 consensual adults doing their own business in their life its frankly no ones business.CONSENSUAL SEX YOU DO NOT RELATE TO IS NOT A SIN
What a shitshow..
why not do one on what makes homophobia wrong?????
@hydrate your soul oh.....homophobia is a wicked evil lifestyle choice and u say its not wrong??????? REALLY?
Homophobia is stupid. Homosexuality is wrong but living with homophobia is not the Christian lifestyle if we are to love people.
@hydrate your soul - your opinion is not Bibical
@@hezecut7342 - your opinion is not Bibical
Hezekiah Logan I agree homophobia and homosexuality is wrong
the girl in this video that i just watched stood out to me... she said “I‘m a happy woman
(scroll down to the link below)
this may sound like a lot of work but u know... this world is what is “a lot of work”. A world where things are hidden from us, the hidden agendas. were always taught in schools all the things we “need to know” but do we really “need to know” those things? Do u not see the agendas they push upon us and want us to support? We should rather.. learn the truth. in the bible, Jesus says “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” and This same creator made us to be Male and female... not with different sexualities. The same creator, he Made Man and woman to be able to create. The reason why he restricts us from doing things is because its to protect us. Including murder, lying, stealing, cheating- because these things cause not only a SPIRITUAL DEATH, but these sins including the first sin of adam and eve has caused PHYSICAL DEATH “Romans 6:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” and He says that when we sin, we are literally enslaved to it. “But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.” when man and woman no longer become man and woman, the creation for babies no longer exists. how will a man and a man make creation again? How will a woman and a woman make a babiee!!! The evil (which is ooposite of God) literally stops creation. the reason why Jesus restricts us from homosexuality because homosexuality is NOT love, its lust. purely lust. and it enslaves us to it. I struggle with both lust and other things and u know the feeling of being “free?”This homosexuality lifestyle is not as “freeing” as it looks. U see, even the WORD says “And no wonder! For Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” this LUST. the feeling of it all... masquerades as light but actually fills us up with darkness. THIS isnt true love. For we are being enslaved to it day by day as it is being normalized in this world gone rogue. a fallen world. We will see: “LOVE IS LOVE💕” and “PRIDE 🏳️🌈” but the Bible says “1 Corinthians 13:4-8 (NIV)
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is NOT proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” *LOVE DOES NOT BOAST* *Love is not proud.* and yet what do we see today with this lifestyle? PRIDE. arrogance. a perversion of what was made to be good turned into evil. ROMANS 1:27 “In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.” This lifestyle is Using people for their bodies than seeing them for their heart. Defiling the body. and Degrading our bodies which were originally created to be temples sister gubby... “So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies” Romans 1:24... but thank God for his mercy that even if we are evil and have literally gone against Him despite of his own protection for us.. He still JOHN 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” and He loves u so so much Tina. or whoever is reading this. for he IS love. True love. Yes we have time to repent but... We must repent before its too late.. Accept his love. its better to be safe now than sorry later. i struggle a lot too. but i Know by abiding in Him i will be more like the person He truly made me to be.. rather than what this world has changed me into.. We are art in Him and he is our artist. dont let this world scribble on u and tell u otherwise. Jesus loves u so much ✨❤️😊 th-cam.com/video/v--BuHXVA70/w-d-xo.html
Omg thank u, god bless you 🥰
Who else is going to hell?
everyone it seems
I and proud
mainly bigots like homophobics
You made me laugh i have to say 😂
@@joey5594 doubt homophobics care.
It’s not. Stop. We’re human like you.
I’m an atheist, but I used to be a Christian. In church, we were taught god loves all creatures.
I tried my hardest but I could never believe Christianity. So I became an atheist.
Same sex attraction has been found in so many species. Over 500. Homophobic tendencies in only one.
We’re not pedos. We’re not evil. Were not broken. We were born this way.
We’re human. Just like you.
I’m gay. I’m proud.
I struggle with not homosexuality, but with the little voice in my head screaming it’s wrong to blush when I talk to her. Saying it’s wrong to think I am normal. Saying that I should die.
Please. End homophobia. End hate.
It's hateful to let a bunch of people perish for eternity and fall into a dangerous promiscuous lifestyle that can lead to unsatisfied relationships and the possibility of a dangerous sexual disease because we don't want to offend them. If we truly hated them we won't warn them of the incoming wrath to come or the dangers of the homosexual lifestyle. You justify it by relating us to other different species, like humans are now to be compared to animals in terms of sexual standards, that's how low you rate us? Should we start going naked and crapping outside because other species do it too?
We're all broken fallen people, we're wretched, we're undeserving of Love and we've violated God's laws, humanity is nothing to boast about and it can't be used as a defense. God shows mercy to all as long as we're led to Christ, his mercy is not an excuse for us to do what we want because he's just going to look over it, it's a limited timer that forces us to make our decisions quickly before life ends.
okay boomer
y’all know some certain animals are gay right…dolphins literally be fkn 😭
@@1GaspardDeLaNuit Nobody said homosexuality was acceptable because it was natural.
@@Nonalhomophobie nobody said the old men reading the fairy tale book were right either, but do people still believe them, of course!
Thank you so so much🙌 this really helps me don’t stop speaking
this helps you with what-?
@@jennym161 with his deep seeded homophobia
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To justify their reason for hating thy neighbor
@@teapunk1290 bro💀
I’m honestly tired of caring
Ya, when will everyone learn homosexuality is not a sin?
Trenton Lee life is really short, you’ll eventually have to care when it’s over. You get one chance to make it right.
Don't give up on battling your sin lad, if you desire eternal life with God you have to put in the effort to confront the sin in your life. Pray to Jesus for guidance and he will heal you.
@@craigd9896 You accidently put not in
@@oldzem - If you are talking about homosexuality - it is not a sin. Answering a couple of question prove this.
Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Nothing. It’s not wrong.
To answer the title, nothing.
Honestly, as long as they don’t attack me personally I’m perfectly fine with them and their beliefs. I was just interested in their thought process. I’m still gay as hell thought 😝😝😝
The wounds of a friend are faithful, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
This message applies to you.
@@the2kking307 The message from literally every single animal in the animal kingdom applies to you. Gay is OK. In fact, its not just OK, its out right reccomended.
The not so good father should know better than to take such passages out of context. I would go so far as to call him FALSE.
No homosexual, thief or idolator will inherit the kingdom of God
though the Bible doesn't say homosexual. That concept didn't even exist back then
@@MrCrappyProduction it did actually.
@@letsallacceptchrist5484 sorry for the length of this reply
the concept of what we today call "homosexuality" is someone who has attractions to the same sex and lacks attraction to the opposite sex. The concept of "homosexual" and "heterosexual" were not a thing until the late 1800s when sexologists (people who scientifically study sexuality) coined the term. Today, homosexual is an identity, something someone can be, a condition of a person. Before then, it was just seen as an action, something someone chose to do that anyone was capable of, not something that was seen as a component of who someone was.
That's how the Bible phrases it as well. The Bible never condemns same-sex attraction, only action. It only talks about sex, not attractions or romantic relationships or romantic actions, just sex. They didn't see homosexuality as a trait, but an action. There was no "homosexuality", but only sodomy, an action. One could be called a sodomite, but that's the same as biblically calling someone a thief or an idolater in that it's a name based on their action, not their essence. The Bible doesn't consider thievery or idolatry to be a characteristic of a person's identity, but just choices. One is not born a thief but chooses to do thievery. One is not born a idolater but chooses to do idolatry. The Bible doesn't consider any of these to be an identity, same as sodomy. It just sees it as an action.
Homosexuality as we know it wasn't a thing because the Bible never considered it being an inherent trait to someone, but an action someone chose to do. It never thought of people in relationships, only people having sex. Every verse on the matter only talks about sex, not attraction or romance.
@@MrCrappyProduction the bible actually talks about homosexual attractions believe it or not.
@@letsallacceptchrist5484 if you can, I would like to see what verse you are referring to
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I know its wrong but like...
Men are sooooo hot
I don't think I could change that
Since nobody has given sufficient and convincing evidence that gods exist, why do we care what the bible says?
Fausto Fernandez Good question. The bible *has* been rewritten multiple times, with edits everywhere each time. Why is the book titled "Holy Bible" by King any more accurate than "The Bible but Gay-er" I can get on Amazon?
That's the fallacy from ignorance. That is proof that things exist, but no proof at all that a god created those things
AG fireworks Our Earth rotates so that we see the sun sometimes and don't see it at others. The sun, a star, was born within the clouds of dust scattered throughout our galaxy. Turbulence deep within these clouds gives rise to knots with sufficient mass that the gas and dust can begin to collapse under its own gravitational attraction. As the cloud collapses, the material at the center begins to heat up. Known as a protostar, it is this hot core at the heart of the collapsing cloud that will one day become a star. Three-dimensional computer models of star formation predict that the spinning clouds of collapsing gas and dust may break up into two or three blobs; this would explain why the majority the stars in the Milky Way are paired or in groups of multiple stars. As the cloud collapses, a dense, hot core forms and begins gathering dust and gas. Not all of this material ends up as part of a star - the remaining dust can become planets, asteroids, or comets or may remain as dust. (Source, nasa.gov )
There are plenty of other galaxies, planets, and suns. Surely one of them would hold life, and almost surely more of them do.
The internet is inside a few data centres mostly in the US. (Source, telegraph.co.uk ) This has been replicated in Cuba where they have their own internet traveling on their own cables. The neat thing about their internet is that all of the connected computers are also data centres hosting their internet. (Source, vox.com ) Nature has has around 4 1/2 billion years for trial and error of life on Earth. We just happened to have passed the trial (so far), just like cats, dogs, worms, ect.
wll I am not Christian but the science it self is the begist evidence that god is exist
Please provide some evidence
Read judge chapter 19 it also speak of Sodom and was about men having sex with other men then with women, and better to rape a women then to have sex with the same sex...don't any one she change the bible to your own likness . Judah two son where killed by God, one was evil and the other by letting his seed spell out on the ground, many says because his desobey Judah... God State only a parant my put there own child to death disobeying. (read the Bible) So having sex with yourself is a sin no ifs or but. When I was a child and did this no one have told it was a sin but know it was.. both are sins but gay is a evil sin. Yes God destory Sodom fore being gay. Sodom was a good city at first, Abram and the high priest of God bless those five city, and even little boys became gay and evil. The bible show that a 16 male was a full grown man and fight in battle, so a boy is 15 years old and younger. I don't hate gays, and had many gay friends, they are good and I don't think God will killed them for it. But it's not good in Gods eyes or act as humans. Even if they Bible don't agaist it it still is wrong. Not in any part no where in way one sex is having sex with a child is wrong. But it very wrong and evil, a child not really don't know right from wrong, even if we teach it..the bible dose not need to say it wrong, the bible not need to say sex is wrong unless you are married and only married, you do not have any rights when you face the most loving true God. And it is your choise to be just as a child rape, they did not ask God to make them make rape.The bible teach us love kindness not lust.
please read 1 corinthians 6:9 it states it plainly there
Please answer the questions
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, and we know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
Yep God makes homosexuals and God does not make sin. God made homosexuals and people intersex for a reason, to fall in love same as heterosexual. God has reasons.
You didn't answer the question, that comes from Cor, Rom, Tim, why not?
Let me repeat so you can answer. It will show homosexuality is not a sin.
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, and we know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
The point is this is gender based, let me ask the question again. It shows homosexuality is not a sin, no matter how much you want it to be.
What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
The 2nd question - does not talk about lust as the Bible does it talks about Love as the Bible does:
Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
ok i just answered both of these question, and all i asked in the beginning is to simply read a verse. and i answered both of your questions, so please do not write the same thing again.
You did not answer the question, unless you are saying God creates sin???
the question again:
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Where in the Bible does is say - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
"What Makes Homosexuality Wrong?"
Personal opinion. If someone believes it's wrong, then in their opinion it is wrong. If someone believes it isn't wrong, then in their opinion it isn't wrong.
@Richard Fox fax
And facts : it is not wrong.
@Richard Fox A person can say homosexuality is wrong, but that is them stating their opinion, they are not stating a fact.
@Richard Fox How is it harmful?
@Richard Fox I agree that there is nothing wrong with being gay, or bi, or trans.
My point is that anyone who says homosexuality is wrong is stating their opinion, not a fact. It's the same as a person stating that strawberry ice cream is the best flavor of ice cream: opinion not fact.
They are entitled to their opinion, they are not entitled to have their opinion respected or enforced.
thank you for your biblical counsel, DG :) Praise God for your ministry
even though its not true?
@hydrate your soul and yet homosexuality is never mentioned anywhere in the bible so how can u know????????????
okay boomer
ok boomer
@@pastorbri Roman's 1: 24-28 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 please read it.
First of all we should know that religious scripts were written long ago. At that time homosexuality existed in secrecy. Homosexuality is something found in the natural biome, it is something god created so be whoever you want to be and pls people we have to modify the scripts now becoz its not medieval age.
Ok boomer
Makes sense.
No.
@@Martian_XX Homosexuals are capable of procreation, multi-account filthy little troll and vicious sociopathic *mbecile. Homosexuality is not wrong and it's natural.