How Maps LIE To You
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Fun fact: The famous Blue Marble photo taken by the crew of Apollo 17 in 1972 was actually taken “upside down” with the southern hemisphere on top. NASA flipped the image to make it align with our normal expectations of a map.
It's also not the only photo showing the entire Earth, as many actually believe!
@@Perririri It was the _first_ photo that showed basically the entire Earth from the daytime side, I wanna say. You look at earlier photos, like "Earthrise", and they show Earth lit on one side with the other in shadow.
@@MarsJenkar that is to say, the spacecraft occulted the sun to take the picture.
@@UnkownTH-camr286 he’s smarter then you’ll ever be
@@chemicalfrankie1030 There is no up or down in space.
What I found cool was that atlas makers would put towns that never existed on their maps so they can sue other map makers for copying.
A hilarious modern instance of this was apple or google had a fake town, but someone actually named a store after then town on the map so it nolonger qualified as fake for the purposes of the attepted copyright strike between the two companies.
Why they sue another for copying while the map it produce based on copying too!?
@@simplyyellow6240 There is legal copying (obtaining a license), and illegal copying.
@@jasonreed7522 I think you are thinking of Agloe, New York. That wasn't recent though.
@@axmajpayne that is probably the case since i know it was in the north east (NY or PA), but i said modern not recent.
The fascinating thing about the "South-up" world map is how it really shows how comparatively little land there is in the Southern Hemisphere. The Atlantic and Indian Oceans end up just looking like large gulfs in a vast northern ocean.
+Brett Anon. You mean southern ocean.
I once asked my geography teacher why thatt is (little land in the south). She made me count out all continents that have mass south the equator, idk why. I am still very frustrated over that encounter whenever someone brings it up
@@covellin_ that's a really dumb thing to do (the teacher requesting that). Just chalk it up to "I dont know, kid, here do this thing that is kind of like learning something, even if unrelated, and get out of my face".
@@runderdfrech3560 no, they're talking about the things they used the words for.
I’m a bit confused by what you mean
12:03 it doesn't make the northern hemisphere look larger than the southern, but polar regions look larger than equatorial ones. However, there is more land in the northern hemisphere, so this is technically true
In other words the Northern hemisphere looks like it has more land than the Southern. Because it does.
This is actually not factually accurate. The area of antarctica on a full mercator projection is infinite. All mercator maps you've seen truncate at an arbitrary latitude line on each side and these choices dictate which hemisphere looks bigger.
Well actually our Earth is kind of an inverted 🍐 shape though! But we cant actually see that because the difference are so less!
Yeah, Earth is not a perfect sphere!
if you look at some of the images the northern hemisphere was given more physical area on the map to be drawn, so his statement would be correct for those maps. And like what bill kong said, the maps shown also cuts off at a latitude closer to the equator in the southern hemisphere, meaning less of the south is projected.
The video’s last two points are too far-fetched to be honest. Like it’s evil european’s conspiracy to put less land in the Southern hemisphere.
Fun fact: before rail, maps often strongly highlighted and named rivers because they were the main method of mass transport.
You could clearly see the difference for example, between a map of England from the 16th century and one from the 19th or 20th century.
@@UnkownTH-camr286 Your name matches what everyone thinks of your comment
@@UnkownTH-camr286 Your wife left you
@@NikiKovn Bold of you to assume he had one to begin with
@@decanusseverus8773 and let the roasting begin 😅
Bro this is a troll don’t give him a reaction that is what he wants
The problem with any 2d map of a 3d sphere is that there is no truly "accurate" was of portraying it, people love to "correct" the map but all they're doing is changing what things they're willing to sacrifice for the sake of making the map.
Actually there is! Moving on.. 🤪
@@TriguredAzAndOthers Well, the world is a 3 dimensional ball. Can't do that in 2d without having half of it invisible. Which is incorrect again. But elaborate, what is correct?
Euler Spiral projection is my favorite.
@@kyrilliskalehtanis7140 It's 2022 use google earth.
@@appa609 but that's not a map (2d projection) ...
8:20 Atlas Pro actually has a video on these mountains called "Finding the Source of the Nile river." and he mentions these mountains a lot so I recommend it if you're interested in learning about them.
Hell yeah I love Atlas Pro too
@@UnkownTH-camr286 snap back to reality.
What's more interesting is the Lower Nile is on the north, and Upper Nile is south.
I remember seeing the South on top map maybe 5 or 6 years ago and ever since then I’ve pointed it out to others. Interesting way of tweaking one’s POV :)
Thats how ancient China made maps, and being used to the North is up orientation it makes the south up feel strange and alien just because its different.
@@UnkownTH-camr286 prove it...
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@@shanebraaten9553 don’t give attention to bots. Just report them for spam
Wdym corrected? The map commonly used today flipped is just as correct like our common one.
@@UnkownTH-camr286 you have no content 💀
Not ONE mention of the Earth being FLAT. Smh RealLifeLore
Seriously tho, love your content, you're a great inspiration to Geo nerds everywhere!
Geography rules
shake my geo map
stoneworks map is flat too lol
Look up Flat Earth map and have a good laugh! :D
torus earth >>> flat earth
So basically most of the maps dont lie, it's just that people cant interpret them correctly
Hips, also
if most people misinterpret, than the map is bad as doing its job, but in most cases, that is the point.
of course, too many citizens are too ignorant to maky any reasonable conclusion
@@xBINARYGODx Not going to apply here. The point is it is impossible to show everything simultaneously with accuracy. This is because the Earth is huge, not flat, nor perfectly shaped. Literally, to show one thing on a map, you have to either neglect showing other feature, or distort some of the less important features to make space for the parts most important according the priority of the person needing a map. This is why there are so many different maps and ways to use them.
Fun face: for most of history south was up. Ancient Egyptians had south up (hence northern Egypt is lower Egypt), the first ever map of the world was done by an Arab geographer in service of the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire and it had the south up, the Chinese too had the south up.
Thank you very much your information.
12:03 - wrong, the Mercator projection doesn't enlarge the Northern hemisphere vs the Southern hemisphere - it enlarges land near the poles and compresses land near the equator (it just happens that more land in the northern hemisphere is closer to the pole than vice versa)
indeed correct, what he might think of is a cone projection, but with the tip at the south pole... that would have the effect he described with enlarging the northern territories
I'm pretty stunned that this guy made a whole video on maps pointing out the obvious and then got this wrong. He makes similar mistakes in other vids as well, kind of shows a lack of research and care given in all honesty.
It may just be me, but I feel alot of RLL videos are heavily 'inspired' as well by other channels content. This isn't a problem in itself but when nothing is added or glaring mistakes are included, sort of makes you feel the attention this guy gets isn't very deserved?
Correct. I'm glad someone else caught this. I knew that degree in geography would come in handy one day🤣
I think he was referring (too subtly) to the fact that most of the land on earth is in the northern hemisphere, and reaches further north than southern lands reach south, which gives the appearance of the northern lands "growing" more than those in the south.
@@matthowells6382I think you're correct lol I just watched a few days ago a video from a similar channel that covered the cell phone maps. I feel like they saw that and said "there's a video, lets expanded on it." That's okay though, I still find it interesting.
I don’t understand why the Mercador projection is often portrayed as some elaborate propaganda conspiracy, but it’s just like… no?
It turns out having a map whose primary purpose is to keep directions consistent with the real world is useful lol
@@UnkownTH-camr286 you dont even have 1 video and stop spamming
RLL "They made northern countries look bigger because colonialism." Then explain the fact that Africa looks massive... He's also trying to blow our mind that cities have a lot of people, thanks, Captain Obvious.
@@AsukaLangleyS02 This kind of blatant wow-factor corner cutting is why I'm not subscribed.
Because cnn and other msm hates western everything
@@fredriks5090 it's a fucken video magazine what did you expect lmfao
I love this channel, geopolitics and demographics. You should do a video of the Darvaza gas crater in Turkmenistan. Edit: holy cow, never thought I’d get 167 likes and a heart by Reallifelore.
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@@UnkownTH-camr286 I don’t know man
@@UnkownTH-camr286 bruh you don’t even have any content
@@UnkownTH-camr286 but u don’t have anything
I think enough videos on that exist
I'd love to hear more about this mystical Kong mountain range and how it came to be.
As for the London Underground map, credit where credit is due, that map is so super easy to read and understand, even though it looks super intimidating at first glance. So whoever designed it, hats off to them. They did a bang up job.
On the other hand..
The solar system rotates on a plane. If you plot it in three dimensions there is a z axis that would correlate to up. Not only that, the solar system itself rotates on the galactic plane of the Milky Way in roughly the same orientation depending on the axial tilt of the earth at any given time.
Even though all of these are objects in space we have to use some relative orientation to designate their orientation.
Think galactic size is as good as any to say: This is up, this is down.
That doesn't change until you hit Andromeda.
But these directions are purely arbitrary. How do you decide WHICH part of the z axis is up and which is down?
@@javierlatorre480 Right hand rule, common in physics and mathematics
@@filipe2338 I guess that's fair
@@filipe2338 Defining positize Z based on the right hand rule depends on which way you define as positive on the X and Y axis. It's still completely arbitrary
@@musubk No, to align with the rotation of the planets/solar systems, you will have a decisive positive direction for the Z axis.
Maps actually don't lie to people.
People just don't know how to read them, and don't know what those lines on the maps are for.
Not sure why sooooo many YT channels are on this "Maps lie to us" kick this past month, but it's really quite annoying.
Imo comes off as needlessly incendiary and clickbaitey
Especially the Mercador thing, which is often portrayed as some elaborate propaganda conspiracy, but it’s just like… no? It turns out having a map whose primary purpose is to keep directions consistent is useful, why is this a problem? lol
In the video he elaborates on how it's not actually about how maps are "lying to us" so much as people are misinterpreting maps. I think the title is just there to catch people's attention.
Clickbait my guy
@@UnkownTH-camr286 wow a kid begging for subs what a lazy kid
@@zylnexxd842 LMAO CLICKBAIT, ig you dont understand the 2 types of clickbait
I mean, North isn't lying... It's the Magnetic position of the northern pole of the planet. Sure the map could be flipped, but a compass would still point true north towards the North Pole of the planet.
North and south r terms we made up. U could easily swap the compass to read the opposite.
@@UnkownTH-camr286 I agree, your content is great, you should have more subscribers
North could still be the bottom of the map in that case. We would just be used to the compass pointing towards the bottom of the map
Well, I think it was once established that the needle point of a compass is Magnetic North, so in all actuality what we call the North Pole would be the South Pole.
North is a eurozentric construct cause thats were maps origin from.
I work in the cartography field and thank you so much for sharing this. Clients often don't know that what you show on a map is what you want to see.
👍
I just gotta say, it's weird that we've switched to saying "misinformation and disinformation" when we used to call it either a "mistake or a lie". "Misinformation" implies that it's someone's fault for being mis-informed or not knowing in the first place (as if that is a moral wrong) and "disinformation" implies that you are knowingly propagating false information (something we used to call 'telling a lie' in the 'before times'). I'm not all about grammar or spelling, honestly I'd much rather do anything else, I just noticed that the phrasing we've switched to in the past few years has shifted the meaning. Where before it seemed to imply someone either accidentally or purposely spread false information as opposed to now where the phrasing implies that the individual sharing information is responsible for any information they tell regardless if it was an accident or intended (like if you unknowingly said something incorrect, you're on the hook for the rest of your life). Ultimately this new phrasing places an unrealistic expectation for perfection with knowledge of current events, not even Giga-geniuses with 9000+ IQ's can make mistakes with information. Not saying there isn't a time and place for the phrasing, but if you're just jogging with a friend, having coffee with a coworker, or posting something to social media, it doesn't really seem appropriate to assign the same level of responsibility as you would a doctor or engineer.
As someone with a world map tattooed on their thigh, good luck actually getting a correct map on anything but a sphere
scalp
@@UnkownTH-camr286 you don’t even have content
@@Seho2024 it's a copy and paste
@@wilcowen6284 i know
Reallifelore has to be one of the best channels in TH-cam. I've watched him for years
I second this !
Just wait till you find out abou his other channels
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@@UnkownTH-camr286 He has been making videos for YEARS now, you really think that people are going to care about you?
13:28 its not "just hard to show an accurate portrayal..." its impossible... you can either keep the angles/directions correct/true to reality OR the lengths coming from a sphere going into a 2D plane.
if anyone thinks its possible, go talk to the guys from the nobel prize
@@UnkownTH-camr286 kid
In the US Military I was taught, in day one of map reading class as an FO, that "map makers are liars." And thats a direct quote. 👍
Its more about knowledge, understanding and interpretation.
If your watching this don't ever stop uploading please. We really appreciate your work.
I was watching one of your videos and you uploaded this
Damm thats deep
I was doubtful when clicking this video because I thought it'd only go over the mercator projection issue, but was pleasantly surprised when a lot more was mentioned. Keep up the good work.
4:00 I remember being completely misled by T Mobile's (and its MVNOs') coverage map multiple times. I can point to at least 15 different spots, roads or even entire neighborhoods where TMobile boasted good indoor coverage to not even having a single bar on the road. There were times I had to drive longer to my work to avoid being disconnected from the conference call I was in. Once I turned on hazard and waited at street corner like a creep, as the call would get disconnected the moment I make the turn.
This was before the Sprint network integration though so I believe things should have improved at least a little bit.
The reason they mark them red or blue is because you can't have a candidate that is 40% Democrat and 60% Republican. Win or lose.
6:33 here's a wild idea Murica, just let the person with the most vote win(?) not that electoral vote non-sense
Absolutely hilarious that you make this video, and two days later there's a Super Bowl commercial by T-Mobile that says "These maps don't lie"
Heya RLL! I love your videos and I am very happy to see this! Thank you so much!
Hasn't this topic been explored a million times already?
and yet, people are still misinterpreting maps and misleading maps keep getting pumped out.
@@lennycrew3 Every map is misleading because it's impossible to make a "perfect" map of the world
@@UnkownTH-camr286 damn you got the whole squad laughing 😑😑😑
@@VY_Canis_Majoris not really misleading... every map has its purpose, but no map, as you say, can do all at once. Wrong use of something is not the thing being
misleading...
@@UnkownTH-camr286 You got a problem?
Never even enjoyed geography as a subject but somehow real life lore makes it more interesting!
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10:42 RealLifeLore teasing the beginning of his rap career
The north being up thing is what always screws with me even to this day. My windows face almost directly south, and thus when I think if my town, I think south side up
thanks for posting all of these videos! ive probably watched like at least a third of them congrats on 5 mil subs
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I would love to see a video about how the tectonic plates will move in the future, and how geographical features will change over the next million years or so
Then watch the videos from Christopher R. Scotese.
Amazing video man, I’ve been watching you for a while and you create such articulate, Captivating content
The recent map videos have been so good! Awesome videos for a geography nerd!
14:40 You forgot to mention, that Australia is using this "upside-down" map.
If you shake your screen at around
5:13 you'll see the blue areas move
Idk it's probably just me being sleep deprived
I like how the map at 10:03 names the place we call San Francisco today "Port de François Drake" i.e. Francis Drake Port. Lots of recognizable US cities on the east coast too.
Yes, direction is relative. However, the Earth has a magnetic field that magnets will point toward, or be pulled toward, a specific point on the Earth which is near the north pole. This is how a compass works. Not to mention that the Earth also rotates on a fixed axis with top and bottom points that hardly move, the north and south poles. The magnetic field doesn't fully align with the axis of rotation but for navigation purposes are still usable. So yes, north and south have arbitrary meaning and are a matter of perspective, but there is some science behind the choosing of which arbitrary side of the globe is the top and which is the bottom.
funnily enough, even scientifically, the poles are actually portrayed the wrong way around
The location of the magnetic north pole has drifted around 300 miles over the last century or so. It used to be mich further south.
Earth has two magnetic poles though, like any magnet. The northern part of a compass needle is drawn north and the southern part of a compass needle is drawn towards the south, there isn't much reason to say one of the magnetic poles are more important than the other.
@@massimocole9689 agreed
Once again great video real life lore
This was a pretty fun one! Thank you guys for the interesting and informative video!
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends! :)
I love your channel! Its entertaining and informative
14:10 we have a famous quote in french about north and south that says : North or South, that doesn't mean anything ! Depending on how we are turned it changes everything
Every atlas I had in school (80’s and 90’s) showed a number of different map projections and their uses right in the beginning of the book and almost every classroom had a globe. This whole thing about the Mercator projection being taught as the standard world image in Western classrooms is completely foreign to me.
I've been interested in maps ever since I was born. I draw them at times, even if they're fake to at least get my brain going... I think the closest to a "true" map is the Eckert IV Projection made by Max Eckert in 1906.
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I remember first having my preconceptions of North=Up shattered when I found out that in the days of Ancient Egypt, Upper Egypt was south, Lower Egypt was North.
Same with Germany. Rivers flow from higher to lower lands, therefore up = the source of the river and down = the sea.
It's that because how the river flows
So does our perspective of seeing Earth’s north and south also extend to how we see the entire universe? Could the entire plane be viewed just the same from upside down, but we’ll always interpret the way we currently do, due only to how our early map makers decided what was north and south?
I believe north and south is dictated by magnetic fields when you use a compass. this concept should stop existing if you're outside the magnetic field; when you're in outer space.
@@nakapanda right but what must makes north the up direction and south the down direction in our frame of reference? It could totally be the opposite had we decided otherwise
@@zacharykay188 it couldn't be the opposite because their isn't an up or down
@@zacharykay188 Yes if we had decided to name North-South and South-North it would be the complete opposite, but why would we set our map upside down? If the compass directs straight ahead and the planet is staying upwards then that should be north, and if its pointing downwards that should be south.
I think the plane of the Milky Way is actually what's used for that, which is angled completely differently from the solar system (which does align with our north and south pole - more or less).
Also note that the axial tilt of the Earth means that stars can be in different hemispheres depending on the time of the year anyway.
I can’t believe maps would lie to me, I am literally crying and shaking.
rn
lmao markiplier refrence
0:40 I love how opposed to saying "do your own research" we all are nowadays lmao
Bruh what i click that it do put at 0:36
Most people who say "do your own research" don't know how to do research.
@@UnkownTH-camr286 Legit stop spamming.
who'd thought that giving an powerful bias oriented research tool to vastly uneducated masses would cause harm huh?
You know it’s a good day when RealLifeLore uploads
@@UnkownTH-camr286 the heck you have 91 comments on this channel so far you really hate this man😂
There is also a misconception that if you are on a latitudinal line other than the equator and you head east or west in a straight line you will stay on that line. This is in fact incorrect.
Just as a note, it's always been my understanding that the red blue map was more to show how the volume of the US was red, rather than the population. I've seen a similar chart with 3D height maps of the population of each county that demonstrated this pretty well.
Except people have been using that to make false claims that more people voted for Trump when that's objectively not true
@@frosty6845 When did people make that claim?
@@frosty6845 On that I can't argue. It shows an important divide between rural America and major population centers, but people are gonna people.
So, like the Mercator Cold War thing, it’s political propaganda.
@@lewatoaofair2522Sorta? Propaganda typically comes from the government to its citizens. This is usually between citizens. I think it's less propaganda and more just, misleading.
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Somewhere out there in the vast multiverse, there's a version of Earth where Australians make fun of the rest of the world for being upside down.
I moved to England from US 1.5 years ago. The first time I went to London and saw that tube map I went cross eyed. I tried to envision it being laid out on an actual map. It hurt my brain
I was interested in seeing a Mercator style map but instead of being true at the equator, its true at the prime and antimeridians.
I think this is the Gauss Kruger projection, or the transverse Mercator, though for some reason I couldn't figure out it's not squared off like the Mercator. Maybe I'm too dumb to understand
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I'm still impressed with ancient people making maps without aerial or satellite view.
Loving the Sora profile pic!
Cartographers: "Weee, look at this, California is a magical island just like in the legends!"
King of Spain: "Hey, stop showing my territory as water! >:("
I think it explains why Mercator projection isn't used in my country that often - we aren't into sea navigation
Geographers in 1700s: California is an island!
Geographers in 1800s: Nope.
Geographers in 2200 after inevitable earthquake: Woah, California's an island!
It’s geologically impossible for California to turn into an island after an earthquake (at least in 2200). California is moving north, not west.
This is just case-example for why it's important to fact check and double-confirm everything, especially when you see it in the form of a meme on social media
don't blindly trust fact checks and sources just because they come from a big website though. the media and governments also lie and mislead too
@@stevesmithy5644 If it is peer-reviewed by experts and backed by empirical data, then there is little room for doubt, regardless of the website's size or owner.
@@rmoises8- I'm sorry but that is not true.
"Fact checking" is simply a social media buzz word that has nothing to do with facts , data or truth.
@@darkoz1692 Got evidence to back your claim?
@@rmoises8 Yes, obviously... if we didn't adopt that position we would never believe anything we couldn't experience first hand and see with our own eyes. Would be not only quite impractical but would also turn us a bit paranoid in the process.
Also, to compound the arbitrary direction of "North = Up", the vertical centerline of the map (The Prime Meridian iirc) is also arbitrarily chosen. I believe Johnny Harris has a video on this, which is more likely to be correct than me, but it was decided to run through Britain out of respect for the incredible naval control they possessed at the time, for the convenience of their many navigators. I believe it runs directly through the museum that houses a bunch of other unit defining objects, like the kilogram (until recently).
I have one of the mercator maps shown here. Johnson’s Mercator map of 1862. I’m going to check for the mountains in Africa and the island off of Mexico. Awesome videos!
These are more due to misunderstandings from the reader's part rather than deceit from the writer's side. Let's take the first example of the map of the Australian wildfires. "A rendered visualization 3D image of Australia, shot from a NASA satellite". The poster wrote this poorly, but this is what I think they meant: 'From a satellite' is about the 3D image. 'A rendered visualization' is something completely separate--that's what the artist did. Basically a visualization of the bushfires on top of a 3D map of Australia. Nobody lied here. The issue is that people misunderstood. Granted, it could have been described better, but the original post was not 'misinformation'.
And second, the red vs blue map. Again, not misinformation and not a lie. It shows the absolute values from the counties, which counties gave votes (correction: which counties the vote of the average voter gave) to who. If you want an accurate portrayal of the ratio of red vs blue votes per county, that's a different map entirely.
The counties' voting preferences don't matter in anything except a local election. State elections and the federal Congress are done by district, and the presidential election is largely done by the state as a whole. Portraying the county borders as if they actually mattered in the presidential election is either grossly negligent or deliberately untrue.
report IDK Man, just spams shit everywhere.
Fun fact 2: The most common explaination/myth of why NYC's subway map is geographically accuratre is because of the amout of crime that took place in the subways during the 70s and 80's.
People wanted to get to places, but wantwd to stay as little as possible in the subway.
The crime is getting very bad on it again now, the graffiti is starting to make a return. Very fitting considering how far both the city and this state have fallen, we should be called the falling empire state
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Demographics are destiny
Love all your content! You should do a video on the FM Diversion project. It's the biggest water diversion project in North America!!
As a guy moving into a rural area, I appreciate this info. The granularity of cell coverage still feels like 1992 if you live near mountains...
I do kinda understand the North=Up perspective. While there is no "better" hemisphere, the vast majority of the human population lives in the north. The northern hemisphere also has the majority of landmass.
Also, the top/bottom division makes geometric sense in relation to the Earth's axial tilt and the orbital plane around the sun.
nah... you're missing the point. in space there is no up/down/north/south. Earth's axial tilt and orbital plane around the sun are all events happening in space. so what is to say it's not the other way around?
directions are given so we "humans" can make sense out of positions.
@@mishaelkama4077 I don't think I am. I would assume no one is coming to this video with the idea that north/south/top/bottom are absolute truths. Those words were created from human perception. We're therefore allowed to define them by the parameters we see fit.
"North up / south down" is something people agreed upon for the sake of convenience.
Same as how we have agreed upon what letter "A" should look like and what sound should be associated with it.
Yes, it's all a matter of perspective, but it's a useful subjectivity.
So let's not dismantle the academic habits, just because of some stupid need to sound more inclusive.
What good are those habits? Anyway.... no one of any real significance is actually asking to change the map to upside down to now, but some are pointing it it, which apparently triggers people bothered by "inclusive", so they whine in the comments to a video that never said to change anything or even complain about north-up or whatever you want to call it.
Worth noting, at the time of the 1500s expedition in California, what is now the Salton Sea was an actual lake, near its high-water mark. Those Spanish sailors likely went up the gulf and into the lake, called Lake Cahuilla.
Vids just so consistently bomb love it!
"Human agency is subject to investigation and analysis, which it is the mission of understanding to apprehend, criticize, influence, and judge. Above all, critical thought does not submit to state power or to commands to join in the ranks marching against one or another approved enemy. Rather than the manufactured clash of civilizations, we need to concentrate on the slow working together of cultures that overlap, borrow from each other, and live together in far more interesting ways than any abridged or inauthentic mode of understanding can allow. But for that kind of wider perception we need time and patient and skeptical inquiry, supported by faith in communities of interpretation that are difficult to sustain in a world demanding instant action and reaction"
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He missed the maps without New Zealand.
Probably because it is so obvious
In London, the rough distance between Heathrow T3 and Hammersmith is 13mi. The distance between Beckton and Barking on the east side of the city is only 2mi. However, on the London Tube map, the distance between the two respective sets of stations is identical.
Fires were so bad that every neighbouring country physically moved away from Australia?
14:35 the world of Attack on Titans 😂
Omg true 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was excellent. Thanks for the seemingly never ending awesome content.
It still blows my mind that if I were to head south in a straight line from Jersey I'd end up in Chile.
i love ur vids they feed me the most relevant information i love
It shows how much work and research RealLifelore puts in his videos. And the quality of content is just amazing
actually this video is fucking terrible and poorly researched lmao
Look at this geniuses in the replies
But why does the thumbnail look EXACTLY like my map???
Rihanna reposting that picture with false information was so embrassing 😂
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Konya < Ikònio < Ικόνιο 🇬🇷
Millennia before Turks came fork Central Asia to our lands, Kappadokia🇬🇷
You should include some insane maps that people in Polynesia created.
They are blue maps (showing the sea) and white lands new on it (showing… destination, waves and water streams…)
It’s crazy!
People can navigate to the ocean by looking at a blue background with some white lines…🤕
Is there actually any evidence that during the days of empire Europeans liked the fact that they looked larger on the map compared to Africa etc? To me that sounds like internet age misinformation. Surely you want you empire to appear as large as possible compared to the home nation. The North at the top on the other hand may have contributed to this.
no, there literally isn't any. map men made a video about this. the mercator projection enlarges areas closer to the poles because, again, it's impossible to accurately represent a 3d sphere on a 2d plane
@@Uberkatze- no thats not what I meant. It obviously wasn't produced to feed a colonialist narrative, what I'm questioning is the assertion that the European powers would have liked the fact it made their countries look larger
@@Uberkatze- He's not asking "was the map made for colonialism." He's asking "was the map popular because of colonialism."
@@eelvis1674 if i was a ruler of a small euro country I'd actually like to have mine smaller to show how much we were able to conquer
@@Chameleonred5 no evidence for that so probably not
RLL makes that most enjoyable content bro
You should do a video about Colombia geography and see why people is so different in the country depending in the region where they are
Maps never lie. They're quite truthful at all times, it's just that they use a very specific language to express themselves.
It's not their fault if one doesn't know the grammar of that particular language. Guess one wasn't paying attention in school when it was being covered.
Thank you RLL for introducing the importance of Critical Thinking and how misinformation starts.👍
That map of the population by votes is fascinating showing the actual votes per area
This is a great video, exploring a topic which needs to be talked about much more than it is. Euro/American-centrism is reinforced by the absurd malproportioned Mercader projection maps.
It makes perfect sense to have the northern hemisphere being the upper one on globes. About 85 % of all land is in the northern half, so you would want the overwhelming majority of the land to be on the most visible part of the globe. As for maps, they follow globes as it would be confusing to orient the landmasses differently depending on the medium.
There are many historical exceptions to this, though, even in Europe. In the medieval ages there were several maps, particularly in religious communities, where east was up. The Holy Land was to the east, and so east was given the most eye-catching position: humans are trained to read things from the top to the bottom.
It makes sense for the northern hemisphere to be at the top of globes and maps considering we are forced to pick however the fact is that it is not the top
And the Islamic World during the Islamic Golden Age put the Northern Hemisphere on the south.
Awesome video!
One tiny thing, 12:02 - it shows countries both in the Northern and Sothern hemispheres larger than countries closer to the equator.
O7
The effect is more pronounced in the Northern Hemisphere because there's more land/countries further north.
Except for the Great Penguin Empire which will one day conquer us all.
How many lies have I been told by the council
One fact about maps that was not mentioned is that map makers intentionally add FALSE data to their maps in order to catch those who copy their maps and try to sell them as their own. All the original map maker has to do is file a lawsuit, point out where this false data is, state that the purpose was specifically to allow suing those who copied it and... they win.
I would make the argument that a top can be assigned to a spinning body by extending the laws of math.
The concept is the cross product & right hand rule, or more specifically torque. In short vector A cross vector B will point perpendicular to the plane formed by A and B and the defined positive direction is the same as x-axis cross y-axis = x-axis.
Coincidentally for the earth take an/the equitorial radius (pick any, doesn't matter) and cross into the direction of motion and the resultant points towards the north pole as the whole thing spins west to east.
Honestly there’s a lot of good reasons to have north on top, and this is one of my favorite reasons why. Right hand rule ftw
An X and Y axis can distinguish directions such as up or down but it would be a matter of perspective, espeically on a sphere
Someone oriented differently in “space” can have a different perspective or opnion of whats up and down
@@aceclover758 i was about to type something up about various coordinate systems but just remembered something even better to prove my point.
All 2D shapes have a defined top. (Well normal vector/orientation)
First we can agree that a spinning sphere (earth is close enough to a sphere) has 2 natural features being the axis of rotation and the equator. The axis defines the poles but doesn't allow us to distinguish between north and south. That honor falls to the equator.
The equator is a circle, and the direction of any shape is defined as normal to the side where the shape is drawn counter clockwise. Normally in math you just let the top be the side closest to the z-axis at time t=0, however, the earth is naturally spinning so the equator can be seen as inherently spinning so if you look at it so that it spins counterclockwise that is the top of the equator. (Positive rotation in math is ccw)
This means that the north pole is the top pole because if you look at earth along it the planet is spinning ccw, and likewise the south pole is the bottom because looking at earth from along it the planet moves clockwise.
Also feel free to look at the Wikipedia page for spherical coordinates, of which out lattitude, longitude, elevation system of measurement is a form of (granted lat-long is not right hand rule orthogonal and it should be longitude, lattitude, elevation)
The point it positive rotation in math is counter clockwise so an isolated body should be defined the same to have positive angular velocity and angular momentum. Coincidentally Venus spins opposite the rest of the planets so it is either upsidedown or spins backwards.