@@TheCrimsonEpilogue ahhh but I counter you being right with my lame ass having not played Alan wake (I watched tiptoe play if that counts) but you are right my friend
@@TheCrimsonEpilogue even tho Alan wake came out before Control, I'm pretty sure Remedy has said that they want Control to be the center of their games and then branch out from there.
The Remedy connected universe is fast becoming my favorite story driven group of games. If Alan Wake 2 is half as good as Control, we're already winning.
Maaan AW2 was such a surprise hit to me. I mean I knew it was gonna be good but to be one of if not THE best survival horrors of the last few years... Blew me away really
Part of me hates the fact that I am catching these as they release so I can't just marathon them all at once. But it will give me a new thing to look forward to. Keep up the great work!
I played through the Control Alan Wake DLC which got me real interested in what happened in the Alan Wake game. The gameplay was rough to say the least, but the story and characters really carried it and pushed me through it. Now I'm very hype for Alan Wake 2.
OMG! You just made my day by putting this out!!! Thank you for everything you do. I work overnights at a 7/11 and I love listening to your interpretation of all these games whether at work or laying down. I'm so glad that I found your channel ❤ Have a good day today!
I love how complete your lore analysis is! Especially actually explaining Thomas Zane’s backstory instead of doing a high level analysis. I’m a Remedy fan since Max Payne so these videos are just what I needed! Thanks!
I haven't played Control but I recently replayed both the Alan Wake games. Even though I recently watched someone else do an Alan Wake Lore, when I saw your one come up, I watched it right away. Well structured and it covers the important concepts. Your lore videos are also filled with mischief and that makes them so fun to watch.
I was the only person I knew who wanted to play Alan wake, I don't remember how but I know I played this instead of mainstream games until I beat it and annoyed whoever wanted me to play something else. Glad to see it connects to Control like "Hearts in Atlantis" to "The Dark Tower"
Listening to this while trying to get to sleep and heard flares and immediately thought 'flaires' and now I'm wide awake envisioning a man with powerful flaires battling with disco fever!
I was really interested in Alan Wake when the game was coming (I remember a series of web videos that were really interesting that ended up not meaning much) but I was never able to get through the game myself, and certain things never clicked when I watched a playthrough. This video (and the next one, as well as the Control vids) really do an excellent job explaining everything in such a clear and entertaining manner. Thank you, Tiptoe!
Ok I've been listening to other Alan Wake recap videos to get caught up for the sequel, your videos are easily the best and most interesting ones out there
At last I finished Alan Wake Remastered and can watch this without spoiling myself! 🥰😍 Aaaand I wasn't disappointed. Your "loring" is the perfect complement to Remedy's incredible writing.
I am so happy this video dropped today thank you! I just watched your first video on Control just a couple days ago and I was hoping more would be coming out soon.
I absolutely LOVE you’re lore content. You present it the best of everyone I’ve watched no matter the lore! Love when your channel pops into my feed with new content.
boy oh boy I've played Alan wake like 6 times now from star to finish and im just realizing that its tied to the control universe D: control I've only played it once and I know there is a DLC that I never played so maybe will have to give it a try before continuing this serie. either way great video, great Chanel and great lore to star of this journey!
Interesting fact, The Dark Presence is "the thing in the lake". The thing in the lake is the king in yellow. Basically the threshold in cauldron lake is a threshold to the world of the king in yellow which is why it's a spiral. The spiral is the sign of the king in yellow. But not just any spiral, a counterclockwise spiral. The king in yellow is the fool, which is why madness is part of the dark place and why the only way to get out of the dark place is through ascention. The other name for the fool is Mat.
10/10 story blending to Remedy and to you for scripting these lore mini-series. Haven't played either of these games but I'm now intrigued to know if Alan Wake 2 will have little hints to Control. Something akin to caravan guards in Boston mentioning a battle over a dam near Las Vegas, Nevada. (fallout 4, fallout new vegas)
i think it's implied that tor and odin were actually fine BEFORE hartman got a hold of them. still wild rockers but not destructive or unstable per the deputy at the station when alan is first there. which means hartman was the one to degrade their mental faculties (and given their state in AW2, possibly degrading their defenses past what they would've been otherwise)
Though they were genuinely awesome, it wasn't the Control lore videos that did it. It was here, with the utterance of the words "Lore Thot," that I knew I must subscribe to this channel. Hail, kindred, and cheers.
I really like how y'all scripted gameplay as part of the story explanation, like describing what it's like to fight the Taken birds in the game as what it was like for Alan in the story to face them.
No joke....this was the best Survival horror game to come out at that time since Silent Hill 3 and 4. By this point Resident Evil was an action game franchise (though, I do enjoy the stupid fun of Resident Evil 6 because they go ALL-IN on the Action Hero aspect), Silent Hill was just....bad. Dead Space was good, but didn't scratch that same itch. As a MASSIVE Stephen King fan, "Alan Wake" grabbed me fresh off the heels of my Dragon Age: Origins (one you should SO do a video on), and never really let go.
She sounds a lot like Maggie May Fish. Is that like a regional accent? Her way of talking is kinda similar too. Informative, humorous, and mildly sarcastic
She was under the control of the Dark Presence. She wasn't herself. I think in what Alan Wake wrote during that week in the cabin, it was a way for a day to pass into night time. So danger could emerge within the darkness of night. AND it was a way to get a really angry Agent Nightingale out to her trailer after the park manager called the cops on them. Now WHAT she drugged them with is a whole other issue. Like, Rose where did you get those kinds of drugs? Plz explain, Rose.
as someone hwo s Ru s knowledge andinterest came from alan wake towards control, i find the reverse fascinating as i always learned the lore or thought about it retroactively tome it was always control feeds the alan wake lore, not that alan s lore would be considered a way to explain control haha
The writer of Alan Wake and Control (Sam Lake) did a WONDERFUL job connecting the two games together without ret-conning ANYTHING out of Alan Wake. It was so well done, that it's almost like he PLANNED for Alan Wake and Control to be linked!
I have been enjoying this series but I feel like I didn't catch all of these details in Control and Alan Wake. I just wanted to know if all of your details are pulled from lore in the games or if you color in some of the details on your own. It's fine either way, just wondering.
I love your video's. I had a blast watching the one on control. I wonder how the story could be explained properly in this manner after the base game though. Honestly.. I have no idea how you could properly explain alan wake. But going through the events from the story in chronological order will cause issues going any deeper into the story than this 2 part story you put out i think. There are lore implications in the dlc as well as alan wake 2 that just change the story up so much that some fairly straightforward parts of your two video's become completely wrong. I'm eager to see how you will cover the rest in the future. I do think it's a great audience primer. So. What do i mean? Well, from the events of writer, signal, american nightmare and now Alan wake 2 we learn a lot of what governs the dark place and wake's writers powers. We learn that the wake we play is never truly alan the writer, but a projection of him living out in real world "overlaps" or the dark place while alan is stuck inside the writers room. Things that alan write according to certain rules of drama and horror become reality, and the projection of alan then faces this reality, which in turn allows alan the writer to make notes and print out new pages. Sometimes alan the projection runs into a dead end, and the story starts from the beginning with adjustments to the draft. This is important because it has several implications: 1. The story of "departure" as we see in alan wake 1, doesn't get written in that cabin in the missing week most likely. Everything from the moment we boot up the game in alan's nightmare is already part of it. It's so convoluted that alan even writes about writing the manuscript inside the manuscript. Alan wrote zane into existence. Zane might have been a real person before, but he wrote himself out of existence except for his works inside a shoebox. Alan finds these works and creates zane anew. "departure" is part of a three act system from a real world narrative structure called "the hero's journey". The other two acts being called "initiation" and "return". Everything alan writes will have to follow this structure. Maybe not by law of the dark place, but its a ritual he adheres to to give his works more power. In "departure" Tom the diver actually takes the role of mentor figure or guide. As soon as alan accepts the "call to adventure" said guide gives him "supernatural aid" in form of the clicker. after which Alan dives into the dark place and saves alice. Thats the story of "departure". 2 things here: 1. the story was written before the game starts. So we don't know Alan's true origin story. This story was all written to match the hero's journey exactly. It doesn't have to be fully real, it just needs to have a basis in reality. 2. the game itself during "departure" follows the narrative of a tv show. it's divided into episodes and has alan saying "previously on" each episode. Its clearly from start to finish, a work of art and fiction based on alan's "departure". There's a million questions to be answered now. Who is the original writer? Did zane write the clicker or was that by alans design? Most questions can be answered by: "it's alan" because he's the one writing the story and it would be the most obvious answers 99% of the time considering the amount of stories he has written in the dark place in the 13 years trapped here. Or is it even longer? There's a million details i could go on about concerning the next games. Things that were said and done that give hints. Things outside brightfalls. The reality changing SOS signals basically sent out by alan over the years. The conceptual nature of things like "Mr. Scratch", "scratch" and "the scratching hag". The fact that at the moment zane the poet as written during alans manuscript of departure has been written to never have existed either. Same with jagger not having the same past anymore. There is just sooooo much. And the nature of alan wake is so convoluted, that you really can't just cover the story linearly to give a good picture of it. My summary of alan wake would be that it's a story of a man trapped inside a dark place, constantly plagued by all the dark parts of his psyche. Constantly needing to face himself and put himself back together. A mental health basketcase of a man (due to an alien influence), that has to write the perfect horror book trilogy in order to escape and not destroy reality completely. All the while constantly losing his memory and faculties and needing to rely on the snippets he gets from his deep dives into the dark place, his own notes (that seem to disappear from the writers room every time a manuscript is completed), and snippets from the reality and friends he left behind that he sees through "overlaps". its truly a maddening experience filled with unreliable narrators.
Shouldn't be. There are a few midrolls sprinkled in but TH-cam decides how many to show based on user analytics. They should all at least be skippable, at least for now until TH-cam removes that ability from us in November. Then we'll have no control over ads. If you're a big consumer of TH-cam content, I'd suggest looking into TH-cam Premium. In my opinion it's worth it for not only ad free viewing, but the creators you watch still get a small cut of the Premium revenue so they can keep creating that sweet, sweet content. 👌
I’m a big fan of control and as a fellow lore thot I’m glad I get to watch the full extent of its branches of lore
...lore thot?..real nice man🤮😪
Semantics, but wouldn't it be the opposite? Control would be a branch of Alan Wake Lore?
Alan Wake came out waaaay before Control, in 2010.
Lore thot 😂😂😂
That’s awesome❤
@@TheCrimsonEpilogue ahhh but I counter you being right with my lame ass having not played Alan wake (I watched tiptoe play if that counts) but you are right my friend
@@TheCrimsonEpilogue even tho Alan wake came out before Control, I'm pretty sure Remedy has said that they want Control to be the center of their games and then branch out from there.
The Remedy connected universe is fast becoming my favorite story driven group of games. If Alan Wake 2 is half as good as Control, we're already winning.
I'm sad to say that Alan Wake 2 is not half as good as Control... It's even better.
Maaan AW2 was such a surprise hit to me. I mean I knew it was gonna be good but to be one of if not THE best survival horrors of the last few years... Blew me away really
The madlads did it again
Part of me hates the fact that I am catching these as they release so I can't just marathon them all at once. But it will give me a new thing to look forward to. Keep up the great work!
Yoo I’m gassed I’ve never seen these videos I got a 10 hour work day today I’m excited for work !!!
Muahahaha time to binge them
I played through the Control Alan Wake DLC which got me real interested in what happened in the Alan Wake game. The gameplay was rough to say the least, but the story and characters really carried it and pushed me through it. Now I'm very hype for Alan Wake 2.
The hype was worth waiting for, the game is amazing 👏
OMG! You just made my day by putting this out!!! Thank you for everything you do. I work overnights at a 7/11 and I love listening to your interpretation of all these games whether at work or laying down. I'm so glad that I found your channel ❤ Have a good day today!
I love how complete your lore analysis is! Especially actually explaining Thomas Zane’s backstory instead of doing a high level analysis. I’m a Remedy fan since Max Payne so these videos are just what I needed! Thanks!
I haven't played Control but I recently replayed both the Alan Wake games. Even though I recently watched someone else do an Alan Wake Lore, when I saw your one come up, I watched it right away. Well structured and it covers the important concepts. Your lore videos are also filled with mischief and that makes them so fun to watch.
I was the only person I knew who wanted to play Alan wake, I don't remember how but I know I played this instead of mainstream games until I beat it and annoyed whoever wanted me to play something else.
Glad to see it connects to Control like "Hearts in Atlantis" to "The Dark Tower"
Listening to this while trying to get to sleep and heard flares and immediately thought 'flaires' and now I'm wide awake envisioning a man with powerful flaires battling with disco fever!
I’m so excited you’re making these videos and even more excited for Alan Wake 2! I can’t believe it’s actually coming out. 😭
I was really interested in Alan Wake when the game was coming (I remember a series of web videos that were really interesting that ended up not meaning much) but I was never able to get through the game myself, and certain things never clicked when I watched a playthrough. This video (and the next one, as well as the Control vids) really do an excellent job explaining everything in such a clear and entertaining manner. Thank you, Tiptoe!
Ok I've been listening to other Alan Wake recap videos to get caught up for the sequel, your videos are easily the best and most interesting ones out there
I have played this game through 2 times and your writing made me feel like it was my first time experiencing it!
At last I finished Alan Wake Remastered and can watch this without spoiling myself!
🥰😍
Aaaand I wasn't disappointed. Your "loring" is the perfect complement to Remedy's incredible writing.
Finally! Alan wake lore I'd love to watch
BEST LORE CHANNEL HANDS DOWN ❤ , the videos and so well put together, can't wait for part 2
I am so happy this video dropped today thank you! I just watched your first video on Control just a couple days ago and I was hoping more would be coming out soon.
You are one of the best remedy universe lore teller out there. Love your voice too.
Back at it again with the lore binge LETS GOOOO
I absolutely LOVE you’re lore content. You present it the best of everyone I’ve watched no matter the lore! Love when your channel pops into my feed with new content.
boy oh boy I've played Alan wake like 6 times now from star to finish and im just realizing that its tied to the control universe D: control I've only played it once and I know there is a DLC that I never played so maybe will have to give it a try before continuing this serie. either way great video, great Chanel and great lore to star of this journey!
love the Welcome to Night Vale call out!
You put so much effort into your videos!! Love the content
Ohhhhh shit part two is here. Thanks so much for all the hard work you put into these video man! Adore this channel.😊
I can’t wait for the other videos 😮💨😮💨😮💨. I LOVE your channel
"Don't tell fibs"
You're not my real mom! Maybe I WANT to go to the Shadow Dimension!
Interesting fact, The Dark Presence is "the thing in the lake". The thing in the lake is the king in yellow. Basically the threshold in cauldron lake is a threshold to the world of the king in yellow which is why it's a spiral. The spiral is the sign of the king in yellow. But not just any spiral, a counterclockwise spiral. The king in yellow is the fool, which is why madness is part of the dark place and why the only way to get out of the dark place is through ascention. The other name for the fool is Mat.
Kudos on you for sneaking in a Night Vale mention in there!~
This has nothing to do with this video. I just miss when she used to say "Feed the algorithm God".
I love how both you and Bricky see Officer Nightingale!😂 The man, the myth, the LEGEND!
Oooooo, I am excited for this! Let's go!
What a cliffhanger! On to the next!! 🏃🏿♀️
10/10 story blending to Remedy and to you for scripting these lore mini-series. Haven't played either of these games but I'm now intrigued to know if Alan Wake 2 will have little hints to Control. Something akin to caravan guards in Boston mentioning a battle over a dam near Las Vegas, Nevada. (fallout 4, fallout new vegas)
Now that’s some high quality h2o
The universe surrounding these games is out of this world (pun intended). Id love a book or show based in this universe
Tip your "Lady of Lore" content is absolutely top notch, i love it so much!
I wish you would cover Parasite Eve this coming winter. The game takes place over christmas so I think it would be great timing.
i think it's implied that tor and odin were actually fine BEFORE hartman got a hold of them. still wild rockers but not destructive or unstable per the deputy at the station when alan is first there. which means hartman was the one to degrade their mental faculties (and given their state in AW2, possibly degrading their defenses past what they would've been otherwise)
fantastic video and the use of the outro song is just perfection
Guess I have to watch control first, I'll be back
Though they were genuinely awesome, it wasn't the Control lore videos that did it.
It was here, with the utterance of the words "Lore Thot," that I knew I must subscribe to this channel.
Hail, kindred, and cheers.
I really like how y'all scripted gameplay as part of the story explanation, like describing what it's like to fight the Taken birds in the game as what it was like for Alan in the story to face them.
Great vid Tip and at 6:11 did I hear you say Lore Thot or are my ears playing tricks on me? 😂
Thank you Lady Lore!
Hate waiting for you to drop a video, I’ve listened to most of them already while I work now just waiting for this control/wake to complete
Omg amazing as usual TipToe♡ love ya and your videos, so captivating and charming your narration and format!
W. Nice vid. ( i was never a fan of Alan wake but after CONTROL and Alan dlc im glad to watch these kinds of videos )
With the quality of your videos it's a sin that you don't have more subscribers. Thanks for the awesome content!!!
Cant wait for the lore on alan wake 2. Tomas zane and his projector
Can't wait for da next episode
No joke....this was the best Survival horror game to come out at that time since Silent Hill 3 and 4. By this point Resident Evil was an action game franchise (though, I do enjoy the stupid fun of Resident Evil 6 because they go ALL-IN on the Action Hero aspect), Silent Hill was just....bad. Dead Space was good, but didn't scratch that same itch. As a MASSIVE Stephen King fan, "Alan Wake" grabbed me fresh off the heels of my Dragon Age: Origins (one you should SO do a video on), and never really let go.
Oh, biscuits! Damm it TipToe, I have things to do, I cannot spend almost an hour listening to you!...
Ok, FINE!
Ah, you've got me hooked. Can't wait for part 2.
Wooooo let's goooooo!
My favorite part is when Wake says, "it's not an orgy, it's a gangbang"
This channel is like the Maggie Mae Fish of video games and I love it.
Fun!
At 38:00 ish Alan passes a tree called 'The Great Old One' 😂
She sounds a lot like Maggie May Fish. Is that like a regional accent? Her way of talking is kinda similar too. Informative, humorous, and mildly sarcastic
14:38 Barry resonance
So, tip, was just wondering what you would give for moonshine and coke 😂
Love your lore videos
Now that i know this is tied to Control (a game I adore) I have to play this...
Enjoy your video and great work looking forward to alan wake 2
I’ve got the flu and I’ve been binging your lore videos while I get over being sick. Some say chicken soup I say Gimmie lore videos
Does anyone know what was the point of Rose drugging Alan and Barry? Seemed kinda random.
She was under the control of the Dark Presence. She wasn't herself. I think in what Alan Wake wrote during that week in the cabin, it was a way for a day to pass into night time. So danger could emerge within the darkness of night. AND it was a way to get a really angry Agent Nightingale out to her trailer after the park manager called the cops on them.
Now WHAT she drugged them with is a whole other issue.
Like, Rose where did you get those kinds of drugs?
Plz explain, Rose.
For the algorithm!
I knew Alan Wake and control were linked.
When you called me a lore thot I knew I had to subscribe!
One video... ONLY ONE VIDEO???? :THROWS A CHAIR: MOOOOOOOOOOORE
I never knew this was part of anothers games universe
Thomas Zane might not even be "Thomas Zane" anymore..... Good job, though. Darkness for the Darkness God.
⛔ it's time ⛔
as someone hwo s Ru s knowledge andinterest came from alan wake towards control, i find the reverse fascinating as i always learned the lore or thought about it retroactively tome it was always control feeds the alan wake lore, not that alan s lore would be considered a way to explain control haha
for anyone wanting a bit of extra lore and in depth analitical content, i recommend gaming university and hidden machine, they are awsome
The writer of Alan Wake and Control (Sam Lake) did a WONDERFUL job connecting the two games together without ret-conning ANYTHING out of Alan Wake. It was so well done, that it's almost like he PLANNED for Alan Wake and Control to be linked!
I have been enjoying this series but I feel like I didn't catch all of these details in Control and Alan Wake. I just wanted to know if all of your details are pulled from lore in the games or if you color in some of the details on your own. It's fine either way, just wondering.
Anyone else have to slow the pace down to .9 for it to feel natural?
I love your video's. I had a blast watching the one on control. I wonder how the story could be explained properly in this manner after the base game though. Honestly.. I have no idea how you could properly explain alan wake. But going through the events from the story in chronological order will cause issues going any deeper into the story than this 2 part story you put out i think. There are lore implications in the dlc as well as alan wake 2 that just change the story up so much that some fairly straightforward parts of your two video's become completely wrong. I'm eager to see how you will cover the rest in the future. I do think it's a great audience primer.
So. What do i mean? Well, from the events of writer, signal, american nightmare and now Alan wake 2 we learn a lot of what governs the dark place and wake's writers powers. We learn that the wake we play is never truly alan the writer, but a projection of him living out in real world "overlaps" or the dark place while alan is stuck inside the writers room. Things that alan write according to certain rules of drama and horror become reality, and the projection of alan then faces this reality, which in turn allows alan the writer to make notes and print out new pages. Sometimes alan the projection runs into a dead end, and the story starts from the beginning with adjustments to the draft. This is important because it has several implications:
1. The story of "departure" as we see in alan wake 1, doesn't get written in that cabin in the missing week most likely. Everything from the moment we boot up the game in alan's nightmare is already part of it. It's so convoluted that alan even writes about writing the manuscript inside the manuscript. Alan wrote zane into existence. Zane might have been a real person before, but he wrote himself out of existence except for his works inside a shoebox. Alan finds these works and creates zane anew. "departure" is part of a three act system from a real world narrative structure called "the hero's journey". The other two acts being called "initiation" and "return". Everything alan writes will have to follow this structure. Maybe not by law of the dark place, but its a ritual he adheres to to give his works more power. In "departure" Tom the diver actually takes the role of mentor figure or guide. As soon as alan accepts the "call to adventure" said guide gives him "supernatural aid" in form of the clicker. after which Alan dives into the dark place and saves alice. Thats the story of "departure".
2 things here:
1. the story was written before the game starts. So we don't know Alan's true origin story. This story was all written to match the hero's journey exactly. It doesn't have to be fully real, it just needs to have a basis in reality.
2. the game itself during "departure" follows the narrative of a tv show. it's divided into episodes and has alan saying "previously on" each episode. Its clearly from start to finish, a work of art and fiction based on alan's "departure".
There's a million questions to be answered now. Who is the original writer? Did zane write the clicker or was that by alans design? Most questions can be answered by: "it's alan" because he's the one writing the story and it would be the most obvious answers 99% of the time considering the amount of stories he has written in the dark place in the 13 years trapped here. Or is it even longer? There's a million details i could go on about concerning the next games. Things that were said and done that give hints. Things outside brightfalls. The reality changing SOS signals basically sent out by alan over the years. The conceptual nature of things like "Mr. Scratch", "scratch" and "the scratching hag". The fact that at the moment zane the poet as written during alans manuscript of departure has been written to never have existed either. Same with jagger not having the same past anymore. There is just sooooo much. And the nature of alan wake is so convoluted, that you really can't just cover the story linearly to give a good picture of it.
My summary of alan wake would be that it's a story of a man trapped inside a dark place, constantly plagued by all the dark parts of his psyche. Constantly needing to face himself and put himself back together. A mental health basketcase of a man (due to an alien influence), that has to write the perfect horror book trilogy in order to escape and not destroy reality completely. All the while constantly losing his memory and faculties and needing to rely on the snippets he gets from his deep dives into the dark place, his own notes (that seem to disappear from the writers room every time a manuscript is completed), and snippets from the reality and friends he left behind that he sees through "overlaps".
its truly a maddening experience filled with unreliable narrators.
LORE! I CRAVES IT! GIVES IT TOOS MEESEE! GIVES IT LORE WOMAN!
Something in the lake Sam lake hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
New hyper fixation has been unlocked.
When are you going to finish Chrono trigger???
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Feeling better?
"Thomas Zane... was a man of flesh and blood" was he? Was he????? I don't think this man is real
21:59 Luckily for Alan Rose wasn't an Annie Wilkes level crazy fangirl.
There are ads every 5 minutes. It is unwatchable
Shouldn't be. There are a few midrolls sprinkled in but TH-cam decides how many to show based on user analytics. They should all at least be skippable, at least for now until TH-cam removes that ability from us in November. Then we'll have no control over ads.
If you're a big consumer of TH-cam content, I'd suggest looking into TH-cam Premium. In my opinion it's worth it for not only ad free viewing, but the creators you watch still get a small cut of the Premium revenue so they can keep creating that sweet, sweet content. 👌