U.G. Krishnamurti - If Fear Ends, You Die
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- Notice: 1. Video quality is bad 2. Listen and don't watch 3. Otherwise enjoy the 8 bit version of U.G.
Books on U.G. Krishnamurti:
Mind is a Myth - amzn.to/3erGeYi
The Courage to Stand Alone: Conversations with U.G. Krishnamurti - amzn.to/3enKIiU
This Dog Barking: The Strange Story of U.G. Krishnamurti - amzn.to/2ZnDG9m
Goner: The Final Travels of UG Krishnamurti - amzn.to/32QpMPj
The Mystique of Enlightenment - amzn.to/35kd9vI
He never struck me as being negative. He just kept it real.
Same, I feel joyful listening to him because I feel that he's not lying. I think it just sounds different when you hear someone not lying.
‘Stumble’ what a world 🙏
Every attempt to free yourself from fear is the one that is keeping it there
Wow.."fear" is what is wanting you to be from fear! Got it!
@@Blackphyre The wheels just keep on turning while u seek escape, the wheels will still turn
shut up@@Blackphyre
"You are fighting with whatever I am saying", this statement makes me listen to this masterpiece again and again
14:19 "Everything you are doing is preventing the possibility of Fear coming to an end."
Key points of UG:
1. Cause and effect
2. Action and Response is a unitary movement
3. Human beings function same and no different from animals
4. Self conscious is a result of thought
5. Human body is a machine and there is no existence of soul, consciousness, compassion, spiritual and so on
I'm no different from these people that came to sit at UG's feet. The current misery in my life is based whole-heartedly around my avoidance of uncomfortable situations. Listening to this man is another form of avoidance. There's a literal dopamine kick a lot of us get from "insight". I've conned myself into thinking there's a nugget of insight in this that will mend my broken heart. It's not going to work, there's no escape. All this is, is entertainment. I just have to sit here and be miserable. You just have to let the chips fall where they may in life.
Once you be brutally honest with yourself, only then will come the realisation that there was nothing there.
Well said, well observed.
Very well said. A part of me disagrees with this, but there is also a part of me that believes listening is crucial. Listening to him is very important to unidentify the identifications that have been developed through social conditioning since the time we were born, in addition to the dopamine rush from the insights. No amount of hearing his words is more, given the amount of conditioning we continuously receive from our environment.
Any thoughts, please?
@@aswathithrivikraman4970 doing something to unidentify is identification
We all get a hand when we come into this world: some get a full house, others a pair of twos, some others, a high card alone. You play your hand the best way you can by knowing your self deeply. And eventually knowing others (after life shows you - by a good number of kicks in the ass - the illusory nature of our perceptions based on our own wants, thus projections of self onto others). The way out is in. At the very core is purity of emotions. Purity of self. Self-awareness vs self-consciousness. Thought and emotion are one movement. Once you get there, your mind will be blown. You will finally BE what it is that you really are. No guarantees.
21:27 U.G. destroying Thought, left and right. You can even hear the heavy breathing by the Interviewer. His mind is amping up the fear to remain alive. But towards the end, the interviewer eventually gave up.
Everything that you're doing is to avoid the fear to come to an end .
U.G. IS THE MAN 100 PERCENT REAL, EXPRESSING HIMSELF TOTALLY AND HONESTLY. ITS AN ABSOLUTE DELIGHT LIGHTENING TO HIM. HE HAD A TREMENDOUS EFEECT IN MY LIFE. EVEN THOUGH HE WOULDN'T AGREE WITH THAT. THATS WHAT MAKES HIM SO SPECIAL, MANY THANKS U.G.
What impact he had in ur life
@@revanthganesh3808 he never wanted to impact anyone's life
@@soniatiwari9986 if that is true why did he speak with others or write a book
@@IAMinfiniteandfree. stop talking
I feel less burdened when I listen to UG. Great video!
Because he talks from the "depths" and this depths touch your "depth"
filthiest bastard ug
what's the reason? can you provide evidences pls.
Feel whatever!
Yes less burdened is the word. Because I started to throw false views, and keep throwing ...
"The psychological pain is totally absent here ".
UG is about the only man who can say that!
If you don't take care of your emotion they shall take care of themselves
This is the best interview I have seen so far with U.G. ...... much of what he is saying I can relate to within my own experience ..... the interviewer seems .... flexible and free .... and brings U.G. out into the open .......
There is a huge relief in knowing I'm quite doomed. I love listening to him. It's like reading Samuel Beckett. I can acknowledge the absurdity and laugh at it, which is the closest thing to peace my mind will ever get in its conditioned thinking state. Wonderful.
Listening ug is like no-one
I suddenly came upon this Natural State about 35 years ago. It is exactly as UG describes it, although it defies description. For want of communication, we have to say "describe " or "experience ". It is simply a stroke of luck. The problem is that it is thought to be attainable only for a select few. If you could transcend the religious connotations, you can see truth for exactly what it is. UG steadfastly refused to talk of an afterlife. This is because he realised that there's only life and time does not exist. As I type these letters, even in a place a billion light years away, it is now. When I fell into the State, I was asked one question. "if you were not born, would you know " . I answered yes.
@@surameenputtu I dont believe a single bit.
@@kostaborojevic498 Not believing is the right thing to do
@@surameenputtu then what is reincarnation... Karma...
I love you, every time there is a division there is conflict!
"Barking of a dog is more melodious than instrument".. UG represents universe ..
If you conquer feae, you become more conscious towards everything and become humble
Finally! Thank you U.G!
If you look at not "fitting in" to society, you have to be willing to reject all those responsible for that society. Very few are willing to become perceived as that "anti-social."
Jai U.G!
Anti-social is a good thing as you are simply not agreeing with society and it's ways.... but, what is the point? The YOU will still have to do things and use the current society to keep the YOU alive.
@@MikenNinginThai exactly so whether you agree with society or not, whether you like it or not, this is the reality we are faced with and any attempts to change this is ultimately futile
I come across U.G year's a go. Never was a religious or spiritual person. My ex-wife was into spiritual techniques and it got worse. I just didn't know how bad it was. Anyways I loved her deeply. Fear of losing her and living without her, was exactly what I needed. I become stronger because of fear.
we're driven by fear so completely we associate it with who we are
fear to die and perish is normal to the ego thats why we works so hard to preserve ourselves.
He speaks so clearly so convincingly with so much certainty.......
Beautiful beautifull beautiful
there is no way I can know whether I am at peace with myself so there is no way I can know whether you are at peace but the fact that you ask me how can I be at peace lets me know that you are not at peace!
"the sensation and the response to the sensation is one unitary moment", like there is nothing outside "self" and there is nothing inside "self" either....
Wtf. I never encountered something so true.
Jivanmukti: a person that has achieved complete freedom from suffering (including fear) while still in body.
This teaching is in scripture, reinforced by teacher, and must be directly experienced.
amazing....a masterpiece
After days of watching Osho, I stumbled on UG today. I'm binge watching his videos and haven't laughed so hard in days 😁😁😁 Just want to thank him and the uploader :))
And the humor I found is that "it's the raw uncut truth" unapologetically given! Lol!
The pearls in the necklace are : UG, JK, OSHO, NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ, RUMI, WALT WHITMAN, HENRY DAVID THOREAU, TAGORE, RAMANA MAHARSHI, WILLIAM BLAKE, ZEN
Osho is very great at entertaining
The litmus test is in that final statement - if you are still searching, you'll never find; and if you've stopped searching, it may* findd you!
There's no U.G
Hahahaha 😂🤣🤣🤣
UG is a great thinker & an enlightened one
How do u know
If there is any enlightenment u.g is certainly enlightened
How do u know
Absolute truth, like it or not
if you stopped thought you just might dissappear
Filip F. not always...enough said...ug krishnamurti was a speaker like the rest of the spiritual/mysticism philosophy...he should of left it at we are just dogs barking
That's irrelevant to daily reality
hence when there is no fear you die
@Filip F. 😕There is no thought so how can you describe it?
to summarize what UG said : He has no idea about anything
at 14:07 into the video, UG says the you as you know your self, as you experience yourself comes to an end, if fear ends. so, he is talking about ego death. it's his idea that the thing called you wants to keep itself going, so fear is the means to keep it going. it just can't decide to give up fear, or give itself up, until it's time.
he says that there is no diff b/w the body and the fear of it coming to an end. they come and go with each other.
Thanks, that was very helpful :)
Yes
He actually literally believes he had a “clinical death”. This is why he’s so adamant about not talking about his past, before the bolt of metaphorical lightning that led to his physical body actually dying. Yet, he says death of the body is not real- that nature reorganizes atoms. So nature reorganized his atoms perfectly to recreate his functioning body after this death? I resonate with his teachings and think he’s really onto something, but experiencing a clinical death and rebirth with the same body, without any influence from medical intervention, is quite ridiculous. He also somehow has an answer for everything, including when he contradicts himself- each moment is somehow “independent of the one before it”, which somehow makes it okay to contradict himself… and simultaneously he’s right? This philosophy of his is not the one to cling to. He provides an impossible way to proceed unless you agree our species is truly doomed. He says he’s not negative, yet says the apocalypse is inevitable. He’s a slippery, intelligent personality who found a way to win with logic, while denying logic. He also literally thinks he’s a 1 in a billion kind of person. He “has no ego” while believing his clinical death and rebirth makes him a 1 in a billion person. Hmmmmmmm…..denying the meaning of any words makes it easy to say you have no ego.
@@br88dy " This philosophy of his is not the one to cling to." Exactly! And it is intentional. He did say time and again that "you don't need crutches", so your critic is based on your own hope/fear to find something to cling to. :)
Fear: is life.
Thank you
Thank God For People Like UG!
The End if I do this.... Great sir... I bow down to u
Once gone is gone time never stops natural 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😉😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:21 the Psychological suffering, 11:50 freeing from fear -- it's an integral part of natural functioning of the body that you cannot separate out!
There are a lot of individuals that need to watch this video more than 20x to understand what he is saying. I get it and I got it.
I'm going on my 10th time-9 to go!
What did u get
Tell me what you're saying
Beautiful beautifull beautiful no past thank you thank you thank you now moment presented now thanks everything now
quite thought provoking.....
UG: ❌
Top G: ✅
What would you guys recommend as UG's best book or expression of him. I believe I was transformed in some way, when he spoke of being in your natural state, or "enlightened".I always thought enlightenment would mean "a better person" as opposed to what I discovered which is "the real you" and morality has nothing to do with it. I believe what he's saying is "enlightenment" doesn't mean you all of a sudden become a morally superior being, you just become who you "naturally" are? In other words, if you in your heart, have never wanted to be faithful or married, " enlightenment" is when this is revealed, and you become who you are -and free- by accepting that, and living your life as such, regardless of it implications good or bad? Is that it?
@useenothing Thank you, I have that book, along with about 7 other of his books, I haven't read yet. I'm almost done with " The mystique of enlightenment", so I'll read that next. Thanks again for your honest reply. :)
@useenothing when you say that there's "nobody" you mean what I call " me", correct?
@useenothing Yes! Thank you:)
There are only 2 ways to enlightenment. Physical death or death of your self whilst still in this body. You instantly become that which you were. "were" is misleading as it denotes time, as if you are something now, and that you "become" something else. That's not it.
You are already "that". You cannot become something that you already are. This is the very unsatisfactory truth. You have been conditioned to 'believe " in things by religions that cunningly offer you salvation. Religions convince you that there's good and bad. You will be punished or rewarded according to your actions and so on. That's the way the stupid "god fearing " are manipulated. God is you.
@@surameenputtu no that's not what he's saying
I'd find it an unlikely coincidence if a man immersed himself in spiritual studies from the time he was a small child and then coincidentally happened to have a major metaphysical or whatever experience like that in spite of it. It happened because of it, sorry, I don't know why he's compelled to say it was in spite of. I don't see that that takes anything away from it either. But I get that for whatever reason, he disavows the spiritual studies. I do kind of understand, because of my loathing of poetry and the poetry world and poets, after I've written and obsessed over writing poetry for more than 30 years. I think there's something parallel there, but from an outsider's perspective I'm looking at UG and thinking his spiritual studies must have led to his experiences, just like my immersion in poetry led me to hate it but also to be who I am. Love the videos so much, always, thank you for sharing them!
I disagree with you for this simple reason; How can you *unknow* eveything about yourself when all you have done and experienced in life is about yourself? *Knowing* about it prevents one from experiencing it(voluntarily) just like shouting at a deer most definitely makes it run away.The entity I call myself(ego)cannot and will not liquidated itself when it already has been served the knowledge of it's possiblity of demise. :)
100% TRUTH!
They have to take shelter under the word negative......UG leaves no chance of even countering him and I myself have been trying to find something that can counter his statements for long but till date no luck
Ug u r the one I am searching for to free me from all dogmas
Only you can do that ultimately.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
No past tha. Thank you
this is something that cannot be produced on an assembly line!!!
What i like about listening to UG is that it's like falling into a bottomless pit
the real thinkers
UG JK and I and
hopefully some of you.
ug was the filthiest bastard ever
lol
@@kunalarora9489 why bro
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"U G KRISHNAMURTI"...HAS HIS 'OWN' 'FINDINGS'.......IN On HIS 'OWN' TERMS...A REBELLIOUS 'EXPLORATION' And 'EXPRESSION'.......
a men who seek all his life for something and when he gets it he says its by luck, that does not make sense, if it is luck than it should also happen to people who are not seeking it, but that almost never happens.
audio is enogh for me buddy! ;)
Felt like a 5 min interview... Not sure why...
UG is Adam and Eve coming back to the Garden.
What is he trying to emphasize what cause and effect? I don't really get it
actually I don't also get what he says about physical pain, especially his own physical pain
11:51
Tje fear he talks about and the cobra its true. If you ingest psilocybin mushrooms in some instances animals who would otherwise be agressive sense your true fearlessness and it difuses them. Also He did say in another video that he was fortunate enough to be born into money. He didn't shy from admiting that. Also in his youth he was penniless traveling through europe and hungry. I think everyone should experience that in his life at one point. At least once. Be homeless for a few days and broke. Why? I dont know. Maybe because i feel that people who have never experienced that tend to be a bit more delusional about life than others who have.
How many understood why lack of fear is death?.
fear of dying preserve oneself from perishing. Fasting and abstaining is telling the ego that the soul dont need food to live.
Zatoichiable Fear keeps you alive. period. When there is no fear ..it would be straight route to death.
Free Speech We should give medals to deserters and cowards then.
Zatoichiable Different context sir. Talking philosophy in war time will get you killed. hahaha
all of these answers are wrong. It is because "you" are fear, the ego is fear based, and what it fear is the end of itself, so the end of fear is the end of you. When you no longer fear your own end, the "you" come to an end.
I don't really get from UG says about psychological pain: 8.00. Can someone write their point of view?
be content psychological pain as a suffering.
It means mental anguish and frustration.
how can UG say that if this was to happen to someone else it would be something totally different from him because the background of the viewers are all different? I thought UG said before that his background had absolutely nothing to do with what happened to him, that he just stumbled upon it... I suppose I guess he means that it is impossible to pass it onto somebody, to imitate him hence this experience would have to be unique if someone else was to experience it
I think he means, how it happened to him is what makes it impossible to give because it's uniquely designed for him, meaning if it happens to you, it would be uniquely assigned to you.:)
10:51
Who do you prefer to listen to UG or JK?
UG
JK 😇
Neither
Why do you care
21:30 to 21:40 ... completely destroyed
if as UG claims he is talking from as he calls it his "natural way of being where the body is freed from the stranglehold of thoughts, how can UG then communicate some many of his thoughts with us? Doesn't he say that it is impossible for anyone in that state to even know you are in that state, so can you even articulate anything...?
be content realizing stranglehold of thought is the cause for suffering means to be free from that once and for all. It doesn’t mean it is not there but it is functioning itself without effort.
The thoughts are still there but don't have the power to form and direct the actions anymore. So in a way what is said and what is done isn't necessary compatible all the time because of this realization which is precieved by many as self contradiction. I would say it is the same with everybody, realized or not. We do things and then rationalize them with thoughts to minimize the inner conflict . We just want to *believe* / *think* otherwise. :)
Thoughts are there you cannot be thoughtless your body won't allow it. Only difference you'll not identify yourself with thoughts
..almost IS believed about but UG looks into that beliefs and IS free from
2:22
food for thought worms....
so many more people to fool, good ole U.G.
Mr Lonely explain
Stop trying, what's the point?
Was UG an Atheist?
No, he never cared. A bit into his early or late 40s, he completely stopped caring over an idea if a God exists or not. So he could not have been an atheist. As yet, many of his colleagues, friends, etc - they often claimed that U.G. was an agnostic (and sometimes nihilist) but from an early audio recording of his, he mentions that "God is irrelevant."
Hence, the human species cannot ever fathom what "this incredible force" is with only our little humanistic way of thinking. U.G. has said, on more than one occasion that human beings and thought or intellect are completely separate, whilst thought is what we think we need to rely on to live as a species, which is biologically untrue. In other words; the body can exist without the need of thoughts, not the other way around. So if this is the case; and humans are roaming the planet, without an intellect, living out in the wild, surviving like wild animals, through biological and neurological instinct... what would be the point of bickering back and forth on the idea if a god exist or not? No point.
For that, it's impossible to label U.G. into a sort of dogmatic belief or believer. For human beings in a mob. What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a god? But what's a god to a non-believer that does not believe in anything? U.G. is the non-believer. He's not attached to any beliefs. He doesn't care for them. He is free... like a newborn baby. The baby is a non-believer that doesn't know or care to know about a concept that revolves around beliefs. The baby is just in the moment, unaware of what a moment even is. Everything U.G. is conveying doesn't need a "belief." What he rambles about, over and over, has nothing to do with time and space, yet it's also why he never seems bored of repeating himself. What he talks of is based on one moment, while religiosity, many religions, cults, dogma, activist groups, terrorists, government, political parties, other groups or subgroups, they are based on a time construct... He's just pointing at the most obvious thing of our species, which is really not a big deal. Which is the reason behind why he always says "I'm just a dog barking." or "You live in hope, so you'll die in hope." due to living in chronological time.
Thought, intellect, mind, or ego; these things will not let humans understand what U.G. is pointing at. The downside to this is, there is nothing to see. Due to this, that makes many of U.G.'s followers believe that what there is to see has to be something that is an enormous realization, when it is not, because of us searching for it through a time construct. But, to answer your simple question; no, U.G. was not an atheist.
31. He who is forgetful of the Self, mistaking the physical body as being it, and goes through innumerable births seeking his Self, is like one who wanders all over the world in a dream. Thus, realising the Self would only be like waking up from the dream-wanderings
21. He who turns inward with an untroubled mind to search where the consciousness "I" arises, realises the Self, and rests in That, like a river when it joins the ocean.
RAMANA MAHARSHI
A great cynical philosopher
Absolutely true and absolutely useless.