Is the IKEA record player any good? FULL REVIEW

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  • In this video I unbox and test the new OBEGRÄNSAD manual record player from IKEA, Is it any good? I will say, it wasn't what I expected...
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  • @jpesack
    @jpesack ปีที่แล้ว +177

    IKEA made one of the greatest equipment contributions to vinyl collecting (whether unwittingly or not) when they introduced the Expedit, later the Kallax bookcase systems. Too bad they didn't hit it out of the park with their initial turntable offering. You are right, there are WAY more viable choices out there. Hopefully they will refine this product and improve it. There is simply no excuse for a wobbly platter at that price point.

    • @johntiggleman4686
      @johntiggleman4686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have all my stuff on the Kallax system. I need just one more cube for my Heathkit mono set up.

    • @sailormatlac9114
      @sailormatlac9114 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget the Gladsax frames.

    • @crazyivan030983
      @crazyivan030983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not a vinyl fan... but WHO BUYS turntable from Ikea? However good it is... it is just a hipsters toy...

    • @kurukururin
      @kurukururin ปีที่แล้ว

      my guess is, since this is a limited time only offer from ikea, its just an attempt at a "future collectors item" cult object. nothing more, nothing less. were all collectors here, so we understand ;D personally i dont think its fun enough to take up space at home, but im not really an ikea collector either. Maybe its worth it for someone in the future. they are already sold out in sweden at all ikea's and are up for sale second hand at our version of ebay for double the price. thats why this was born.

  • @The_One-Eyed_Undertaker
    @The_One-Eyed_Undertaker ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Ladies and gentlemen, we have officially arrived to PEAK VINYL! Thanks Frank for taking one for the VC!

    • @pancudowny
      @pancudowny ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And suddenly, my "lowly" Pioneer PL-300 seems like a vintage Rolex... because of it's quartz accuracy, and truly smooth operation. And all had at the price of a Casio, with all the pleasing sound of playing with one!😉

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sometimes, you gotta be the guy :)

    • @Frank_nwobhm
      @Frank_nwobhm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pancudowny I'm looking at my two mid-80's Technics p-mount tables with a renewed sense of respect.

  • @highrantdistrict
    @highrantdistrict ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Good review, Frank. I thought the record was warped when you were playing it! I think the best first table for someone is either the AT LP120 if they have to have something new or with a preamp, or having a friend who knows turntables help them find one at a local thrift store or Craigslist.
    Cheers, Tom

  • @Phiyedough
    @Phiyedough ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My old Philips 437 I bought in 1978 has a plastic case but it does have suspension and it does have an aluminium platter. The platter weight is what gives a better wow and flutter performance due to the flywheel effect. That was one of the cheapest turntables on the market at the time but still sounds good.

    • @prowlingfrost5588
      @prowlingfrost5588 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Those are good quality turntables from late 70's and early 80's can't ever compared to new crap like that Ikea turntable. I have similar Rotel direct drive turntable from early 80s. The parts they use for new turntables are not the same quality anymore, motors etc. Even the plastic was better quality in the old times, heavier and when you "knock" it, it feels sturdy.

  • @tinostabile3256
    @tinostabile3256 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi have no vinyl and turntable and I still enjoy your info regarding all kinds of audio gear. That says a lot. You rock my friend. God bless you and your channel wishing you a great week ahead.

  • @DustyD0
    @DustyD0 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Just a recommendation for the phone measurements, they are usually fairly accurate in my experience, but what i do is put a 45rpm adapter on the spindle and set my phone centered on that. That puts the weight fully on the middle bearing and always an equal distance from the center which prevents any wow deviation in the measurement. As for that turntable I feel like IKEA could do great if they just worked with someone like project or rega and made a designer plinth with the premium parts, and sold it at a premium, with options like a budget fluance table out there this turntable seems to have no place in the market imo.

    • @leyland9999
      @leyland9999 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is at least one similarity between a product marketed by REGA and this Ikea product. The cartridge! The bottom of the line REGA cartridge, the Carbon, is exactly the same as the Audio Technica 3600 mounted on this turntable.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leyland9999 Except the Rega is three times the price :D.

  • @PeterBruins
    @PeterBruins ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Have been using this turntable for a few months now, I like the simplicity of it being a manual. Also, the small footprint allows me to place it on top of my record rack nicely.

  • @tonyjedioftheforest1364
    @tonyjedioftheforest1364 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for sharing your opinions on this. I was considering one for a Christmas gift for my son but now I have seen this will be getting him the Audio Technica 60 instead.

  • @t0nito
    @t0nito ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When measuring wow and flutter with the app it's preferable to put something like a cylinder, like maybe a roll of tape centered on the platter and then the phone resting on the top and centered, the phone placed like that will shift the weight unevenly and will affect negatively the results.

  • @danielcocan4145
    @danielcocan4145 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    randomly clicked on the video to see what this Ikea record player is about without any extensive knowledge on the matter, and I was not disappointed, not to technical and any technical terms were explained so that a novice, like myself could easily understand. Keep up the good work! will definitely be checking your videos when before buying a record player

  • @chilligoz
    @chilligoz ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Frank, would’ve been interesting if you did that speed test with your personal turntables you have…. Just to get a comparison…
    Love the vids Frank … cheers 🍺

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought Philips FP 146 couple of years back. Just because it was linear tracker and really cheap. It was an awful piece of crap from mid 80's, very cheaply made plastic turntable that really had no redeeming features whatsoever. Just a hair above those all in one Amstrads etc...
      That had wov and flutter measure of 0,26. Tells something how bad these modern ones are.
      My main turntable is Sony PS-LX 55 II and that, with same phone test, showed 0,07

  • @happyhippythevinylguy
    @happyhippythevinylguy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad to see you back Frank you must be feeling better bro

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Rod. Luckily, I recorded this vid last Sunday before the stupid COVID. Hopefully I'll be good to go with something new next week!

    • @happyhippythevinylguy
      @happyhippythevinylguy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Channel33RPM I kind of figured that Frank!

  • @twisted2291
    @twisted2291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video Frank. After seeing Just Audio take it apart. I though it was junk to start with. And now what you said confirms it for me. Save your money and get something better.

  • @Opurt1971
    @Opurt1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the review Frank. But for the same price i would probably recommend the Fluance RT80 which I'm currently using (and enjoying)

  • @kevinpatrickmacnutt
    @kevinpatrickmacnutt ปีที่แล้ว +57

    It is way too expensive for what it is. You are far better off with the much cheaper Audio Technica AT-LP60x which features a metal platter and a better build. The IKEA turntable would be a good $90 turntable but pretty disappointing at that price point. The AT-LP60x actually performs well.

    • @defiraphi
      @defiraphi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IKEA is not a turntable manufacturer nor is it a Kitchen specialist etc.... Same goes for Aldi, Lidl, and other supermarkets names .
      We are far from real record players. Today we have junk professionnals thinking they're good . Since in fact no .....Can people even compare three types of records listening ? No
      1) The causal listener who listens a few records like Beatles, Jazz, Classical music which usualy needs a different material as hi-fi and speakers .
      2) we have the pretenders ones and low quality music that shouldn't be on records at all .
      3) the dj materials for those in nightclubs and other stuff with Disco , Electronic music and so on
      Many people seem to not understand what real passion is to listen to records today .
      Sadly the revival is a big farce same goes for fashion ( clothes ) etc...
      My biggest question is why always buying "new" instead to go in second hand stores during the weekends ...really ..

    • @wetroom.2949
      @wetroom.2949 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Audio Technica AT-LP60x is more expensive bro..

    • @CT-vm4gf
      @CT-vm4gf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@defiraphi IKEA doesn’t manufacture these.

    • @nomen.nescio
      @nomen.nescio ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why not buy a cheap MP3 or CD player instead. Much more convenient and way better quality.

    • @joramsim
      @joramsim ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nomen.nescio bro..

  • @johncicci917
    @johncicci917 ปีที่แล้ว

    And then there's the fact that's it's going to get covered in dust having no cover. The rest of your assessment was exactly what I was expecting to hear. Awesome reviewing

  • @KokkiePiet
    @KokkiePiet ปีที่แล้ว

    Still got my technics turntables (2) I bought in the 80’s and the revox I inherited, so happy with them.

  • @MyCovertNarcissism
    @MyCovertNarcissism ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic review, thank you for this one.

  • @mikefinney423
    @mikefinney423 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love the full description. I laughed every time you hoisted it like a feather. Let's call this thing what it is....a piece of crap. $200? IKEA can KMFA. This thing arrived just in time to ruin Christmas, as well as any record that touches it. One of my favorite parts... 8:22 With only a plastic plinth and lack of any vibration isolation other than tiny silicone feet, you might have to get 30 yards of speaker wire and position the speakers way over at your neighbors house. 😆🤣 For any prospective TT buyer... Rather than waste $200 and then have to spend another $200+ a year later, just save up at least $400 and then go shopping for a TT. You'll be much happier and you'll have for years. People should only give this IKEA TT as a gift to someone they absolutely hate....Or as the Grinch would say, "LOATHE !"

    • @jmsjms296
      @jmsjms296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly: avoid at all costs. IKEA should be ashamed of that. But the industry never knows any shame.

    • @CosmeticHappy
      @CosmeticHappy ปีที่แล้ว

      I just picked up a factory refurbished audio technica lp120x for $280 and it works beautifully. Hopefully people realize they have an infinite amount of better options for around the same price point.

  • @ralphreinhardt6020
    @ralphreinhardt6020 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a hunk o junk. Thanks for taking one for the team Frank. Ya hoser ! Take off ! 😎👍

  • @fepeerreview3150
    @fepeerreview3150 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! This review was very useful. I'm a newbie and this told me what I need to know. I was curious about the IKEA turntable. But I'll probably be buying the Audio Technica lp60x or the lp60usb.

  • @hodler3340
    @hodler3340 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I just think it's about getting new users into vinyl and if that brings more people to appreciate it than that means vinyl will stay around alot longer and not fade out to newer technology or get the younger generation into appreciating the art work sleeve, sound etc... as experienced vinyl lovers we take it for what it is, something we wouldn't buy because we know the difference between great and yep not so great. Hell when I purchased my first vinyl and system I didn't know the difference but it made me love it so.... it is was it is, bringing it back into fashion to those inexperienced... vinyl 🤘

  • @eladiocofresi5202
    @eladiocofresi5202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! As someone who does not know enough about audio equipment, I agree with you on the simplicity on how to connect it to an external speaker (which I heard positive remarks about their Enneby speaker.) The design does not totally bother me, although I wish it came with a lid. As for the housing being plastic, I am not totally bothered, but I wish it came with more heft to it.

    • @pancudowny
      @pancudowny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When introduced, my Pioneer PL-300 was considered "lowly"... but it still out-performs the "entry-level" new belt-drive jobs on the market. And for less money, too!😉

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @elvisway1
    @elvisway1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Insignia turntable from Best Buy is way ahead of this one for the price of 129.99. It has speed control, Anti skate adjust and tonearm weight adjustment. It has a metal platter and dust cover plus Bluetooth. Mine sounds great!

    • @jimmyMNSTR_911
      @jimmyMNSTR_911 ปีที่แล้ว

      Belt-driven or direct drive?

    • @elvisway1
      @elvisway1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimmyMNSTR_911 Belt drive

  • @stewnelless2416
    @stewnelless2416 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from southern Alberta (love the Big Rock Grasshopper poster). A trick that has often been accomplished is to fill hollow plastic plinths with plastercene or electrical "ductseal". The duckseal is available for not much money at home improvement stores of your choice or an electric supply store.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good tip. Now to grab a Grasshopper!

  • @MrJDNJ
    @MrJDNJ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yikes, for that price I think my Numark tt200 cost about $200 (15 years ago). The ikea unit should have been designed to compete with the suitcase/travel crosley stuff, which come with a speaker, I think. OBEGRANSAD seems to translate into "Unlimited."

  • @timothylowe8327
    @timothylowe8327 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this test. I was quite close to getting one, now not so much.👍

  • @richmorrison8194
    @richmorrison8194 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this review Frank! Happy Halloween!

  • @theclearsounds3911
    @theclearsounds3911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the high wow reading. Other people have touched on it, but the weight of the phone COMBINED with the warp of the platter are what's making the reading artificially high. The motor is constantly driving your phone uphill and downhill. You can see how the speed is always higher in the same spot. As others have correctly pointed out, if you could have the phone in the middle, these forces wouldn't be as strong. But, if the platter weren't warped your wow reading wouldn't be anywhere near as bad. Also, if you are going to leave the phone the way you have it, you really need to make sure your record player is on a perfectly level surface.

  • @TheHammerofDissidence
    @TheHammerofDissidence ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The LP60 is still the undefeated champ of new budget tables.

  • @cpta03
    @cpta03 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Even though I have no interest in the IKEA turntable, I enjoyed watching your video. I agree, there are many turntables that are better values, including the Audio Technica LP60.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Steve.

    • @craigfelter
      @craigfelter ปีที่แล้ว

      The LP60 isn't a value, at $150 it's a ripoff. There's many a used direct drive Technics deck out there for less money.

  • @GodfreyMann
    @GodfreyMann ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His wow and flutter test (8:49) needed a control as a benchmark which he could have easily done by also measuring it on his main turntable…this would have minimised the inaccuracies of his measuring equipment (smartphone & app).
    Additionally, if his main turntable is of sufficient quality then its wow and flutter would be public information and high quality gear (by definition) should measure close to the published figures. Thus by doing a bit of maths he could calibrate his phone/app combo and have presented more accurate figures for the Ikea record player.

  • @dasherf17
    @dasherf17 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you have an RL/SS copy of Led Zeppelin II, you can see how well it tracks...
    It would work well as an auxiliary turntable, hooked up with the built-in, always on preamp...
    Nice job, Frank!

  • @andyshacks7812
    @andyshacks7812 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Frank! If the turntable is so light does it not jump/skip every time you walk past it ? You’re right; for the same price you can get an AT deck!!

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andy ... you should really watch my video draw from a couple Fridays ago...

  • @grahambiggs9822
    @grahambiggs9822 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Frank that was a good, honest, thorough review so thank you. It may appeal to new vinyl starters and the look is unique, but for the price it’s only a small step up from the Crosley Cruiser!! Top job and keep on spinnin !!👍👍

    • @pancudowny
      @pancudowny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better to get a Pioneer PL-300, and have it serviced & prepped by a tech. It'll be worth more than this "uber grandstand" in the long-run... trust me!😉

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the video idea, Graham. I may still do a follow up... doing a direct comparison with an all-in-one.

  • @dimebagdave77
    @dimebagdave77 ปีที่แล้ว

    FRANNNNK! great 2 have you back

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Luckily, I did this vid before the COVID, but hope to have something new for next weekend.

  • @thereal_myfirstcigar
    @thereal_myfirstcigar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha! So cool, I actually bought the turn table you recommended at the end as my first turn table getting back into vinyl after a number of years and am very happy with it.
    I think I bought it based on one of your previous videos.
    I love your videos, keep up the good work 😁👍

  • @JeremiahBurns
    @JeremiahBurns ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suspect that there's the potential to really grow the hobby through the IKEA player. The AT gives you more bang for your buck, but perhaps more casual shoppers are likely to come across the IKEA player and pick one up for its simplicity.

  • @theflipside-vinylcommunity
    @theflipside-vinylcommunity ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review brother

  • @stevemccrea2688
    @stevemccrea2688 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think vinyl needs a pre-amp to convert the industry standard RIAA equalisation that is used to optimise audio due to the limitations of vinyl grooves.

  • @metalmogul
    @metalmogul ปีที่แล้ว

    When I saw the images I swore it was an aluminium case. At the end of the day you get what you pay for and it might well be the perfect intro to vinyl for someone. Horses for courses. Great review Frank!

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely - if it gets someone into vinyl, then that is a good thing. That said, I do think this record player is overpriced.

    • @pancudowny
      @pancudowny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When introduced, my Pioneer PL-300 was considered "lowly" because of it's plastic plinth... but it still out-performs the "entry-level" new belt-drive jobs on the market. And for less money, too!

    • @JazzVinylSurfer
      @JazzVinylSurfer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Channel33RPM For this price a secondhand turntable is more recommended if you want something to have for now and the future.

    • @robertmcbeth4147
      @robertmcbeth4147 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had assumed it would be MDF like all the other IKEA things. Weird.

  • @samwui94
    @samwui94 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heart the insignia record player from bestbuy is quite solid. Could you do a review on that as well?

  • @raggeragnar
    @raggeragnar ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there , Frank ! Good review. I suppose Michael Myers up in the corner agrees , based on the look on his face/mask, hahaha.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yes! But damn Michael also kept causing my camera to go out of focus.

    • @raggeragnar
      @raggeragnar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Channel33RPM : hahaha , that’s so funny !

  • @railinly610
    @railinly610 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a teenager in the 80s, I had my fair share of affordable record players, some stand alone and some in cabinet systems from the likes of brands like Hitachi, Sanyo, pioneer etc. Basically average consumer quality of that time.
    I also grew up playing records from the age of 2 really .
    In the end I'd say that if your amp is of good quality and your speakers too, a mid quality turn table should easily suffice.
    Expect, wow, grit, noise, wobble, dust and general dirt.....the way music sounded before digital perfection came along.
    Having said that, I'd rather have my mp3 collection any day now, far less baggage.

  • @NeedleDropRules
    @NeedleDropRules ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I think as far as the quality and build goes, it might be a decent turntable for a kid, or someone just getting into the hobby. My only gripe is the price tag. From everything I have seen and heard, I feel like it should be around the $100 mark. At its current price point, I just feel there are better options out there for the same price or just a little more. As always, great video!

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      These are good point, Stacey - I agree with you.

    • @off.arretezvousx
      @off.arretezvousx ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You definitely can find a better turntable for about the same price. AT-LP60X costs about $150 and the quality is better. It’s a nice beginner turntable for someone getting into vinyl. Plus the holidays aren’t far away and most likely it will be discounted during Black Friday, cyber Monday, and Christmas.

    • @gmsingh100
      @gmsingh100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The quality of the tonearm is paramount. Also, it comes with a cartridge that retails around $40 if memory serves.

    • @carpentershub1726
      @carpentershub1726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are my thoughts exactly. Even for a kid, if you can get one of better quality for the same or lesser price, get the kid something better. :)

    • @NeedleDropRules
      @NeedleDropRules ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavidB-rx3km it’s all relative. I’ve always felt that if you’re happy with what you’re hearing, then you’re doing it right.

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery ปีที่แล้ว

    Good honest review there, Frank. IKEA are famed for their basic flatpack furniture, and meatballs.
    I think they went a bit too basic on this record player, though. I'm not keen on the USB power supply, and the non adjustable tone arm - I was thinking, were I to buy one, I'd replace the Audio Technica cartridge with an Ortofon (my preferred cart) one, but, as there's no adjustment possible, that's a no go.
    Pity.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah...not worth switching carts on this thing.

  • @jonasthemovie
    @jonasthemovie ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Considering how good Ikea are at making wood products, the plastic is quite surprising. Also, the matching size of the platter and the base made me think they would come in a smaller box and stacked.

  • @petracore4812
    @petracore4812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got it because it was a AT platform I was familiar with... but after a week the band started spinning way too fast and could not be slowed down. I returned it. It sounded good when it worked.

  • @gravengladomain6297
    @gravengladomain6297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Michael mask in the back ground \m/

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! He kept messing up my auto focus!

  • @Rudolf_Edward
    @Rudolf_Edward ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks Frank. I think you are too kind for this ‘record player’. Like someone stated earlier, it looks like a prop you find everywhere in Ikea that suddenly actually works… One thing about the wow and flutter: i think you should have placed your phone right in the middle of the platter. Because all is lightweight on the Ikea, due to the momentum and centrifugal forces caused by the phone on the side of the platter, i guess you get misreadings… I’m afraid Ikea was a bit hasty jumping on the vinylhype wagon and came with this… A missed chance.

  • @katana2k
    @katana2k ปีที่แล้ว

    round and round we go to get that 10-minute video

  • @TorontoJon
    @TorontoJon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    $200 CDN for a plastic IKEA turntable? That's just maddening and you're right, Frank, that judging by the photos, it looked like the turntable had a wooden plinth or medium density fiberboard plinth, so that plastic plinth as well as a plastic platter are just ridiculous. Add to that how the RCA jacks are on the side of the unit instead of behind and things are not shaping up well even before giving it a listen.
    Thanks for your honest review, Frank, and keep on spinning.

    • @dansteinmeyer4369
      @dansteinmeyer4369 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with you - the RCA jacks on the side would be an immediate no from me. That's just like - huh? Aesthetically that just looks bad, which is not like IKEA. IMO you'd be much better off saving a little more and buying something better like the AT or a Fluance.

  • @alm5693
    @alm5693 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does it give you hardware and instructions to attach it to the wall so it doesn't fall over and injure you or your family, forcing you to sue IKEA?

  • @jmi5969
    @jmi5969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:10 - May I suggest placing the cellphone right in the center of the platter, using a roll of insulation tape to raise it above the spindle. The WF might improve... or maybe not.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว

      May be worth a shot!

    • @jmi5969
      @jmi5969 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Channel33RPM That's certainly the case with my direct-drive deck. Any off-center load causes the PLL regulator to hunt up and down. The thing has a five-kilogram rotor, and yet it is too sensitive to anything off-center.

  • @rarenium2500
    @rarenium2500 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the new players like this IKEA stand against old turntables? I got my Pioneer PL-514x for $30 and I really like it, needed new belt tho.

  • @nelsonmaud1
    @nelsonmaud1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a audio Technica lp3 witch has a tone arm you can adjust for 50. Morei I'd get the one I got and it feel well built when lifted

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to implement a better wow&flutter measurement protocol? You can buy Timecode records easily, Serato compatible ones and such, DJ technology. Is there software to measure wow and flutter from audio output of those that you can capture? If there isn't I might just implement it? Because I don't think it's fair to weigh down turntables with a 220g phone laying on one side. The mechanism can behave either better because more weight or worse because unbalanced than with a real record, so even comparative measurements are going to not be very conclusive. Maybe at least give it a counterweight though that can cause its own issues.

  • @31415as
    @31415as ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing that its hitting such a consistent RPM in spite of the hughe imbalance you put there! ;)

    • @Ipsissimus
      @Ipsissimus ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah, didn't think of that.

  • @mogglie
    @mogglie ปีที่แล้ว

    Obegränsad translates to “unlimited or without boundaries” in Swedish. If anyone wondered.

  • @pineo81
    @pineo81 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I have a drink? Crown, splash of water with one ice cube please.

  • @fickfehler3866
    @fickfehler3866 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will buy this to mod it as a record cleaner. Lotsa space in plynth box for a vacuum and tonearm will be an antistatic brush. Thank you !

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว

      There is lots of room.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll ปีที่แล้ว

      That little motor with belt won't be able to keep the record spinning once you put a vacuum on it. You'd need to add some heavy motor to the platter.

  • @gregorymoore2877
    @gregorymoore2877 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So it rotates at a rate of 33 1/3 Revolutions per Monkee... er... minute? 😉 Since it doesn't have automatic needle return, does that mean it can play the inner groove at the end of Sgt. Pepper? Does it at least include an adapter so you can play 45's?

  • @Tubaman71
    @Tubaman71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm really surprised you didn't have to assemble the entire turntable!

  • @bernardchesneau3091
    @bernardchesneau3091 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The 70's was the era of great turntables design and innovation, in 50 years, we mostly lost the skills to build a turntable. This does not only apply to turntables.

    • @patbarr1351
      @patbarr1351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Seems to me that we have the benefit of strong, lightweight materials like carbon fiber and titanium that were absent from most '70's designs for tonearms along with computer design aids. There were interesting ideas that came along earlier, but some of them didn't seem to lead to a better product (e.g. tangential tracking). With companies all over Europe & North America building record spinners, we have a lot of design talent out there today.

    • @michaelscalisi4316
      @michaelscalisi4316 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are plenty of great turntables still on the market. Those 70's tables may be solid, but they were not cheap. This table is cheap.

    • @bernardchesneau3091
      @bernardchesneau3091 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelscalisi4316 Cheaply built yes, maybe 5 $ max to produce yet incredibly expensive to purchase when you see the junk you are getting. Bet you the card box box is worth more.

    • @johntiggleman4686
      @johntiggleman4686 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. I'll keep my Kenwood direct drive and my Technics belt drive from the 70s. Hell, even my 1960s Garrard RC-210 is better than this silly Ikea thing. I'm not sure about powered speakers...I want to be able to adjust bass and treble, and since I've not looked at any, I don't know if there are any with that ability. So, I'll keep my PROJECT/one and Kenwood 70s receivers.

    • @markrl75
      @markrl75 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep we cant make decent record players anymore the skills have indeed been lost like so many other things. We cant even remember how we got to the moon and therefore have no idea how and when we could ever get back.

  • @jasonturg2053
    @jasonturg2053 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informative video!

  • @svtcontour
    @svtcontour ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible all those issues are due to the weight of the phone being on the unit - and not centered at that.

  • @Ceiryus
    @Ceiryus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just visited IKEA today and saw they were clearing stock. They had a shelf of them for $99.

  • @Tom55data
    @Tom55data ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your review
    Just to note, you are correct that a phone on a platter will affect particularly the W&F. You should put a weight on the other side of the platter to balance your phone.
    Here are my results from a reasonable belt driven deck ..
    With phone - without balance 2% W&F
    With phone + weight adjusted so the platter does not wobble (it was actually my amp remote). 0.04%
    I recommend you do another measurement with a balance weight and you might be able to get it down to 2 %

  • @daveton9033
    @daveton9033 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for testing it and now I don't have to return it ! 😅🤣😂

  • @kookamunga2458
    @kookamunga2458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's slightly better than a entry level Crosley. I have several vintage turntables and they are my favourite babies.

  • @jim_wicks
    @jim_wicks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the kind of turntable my parents would have bought me when I was six years old.

    • @pancudowny
      @pancudowny ปีที่แล้ว

      This thing is no better than the old BSR I bought my mom, to use with her collection... only this thing is belt-drive!

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - but for less than $199 (or whatever your local currency is).

    • @jim_wicks
      @jim_wicks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Channel33RPM surprised no assembly was required given that it’s from IKEA

  • @dgurevich1
    @dgurevich1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to get into vinyl, my dad had a large collection I want to try, mostly Vladimir Vysotsky.
    He also had a soviet made vega turntable and amp, but I probably won't see them ever.
    I'd go for the Audiotechnica unit at least it looks more like the one my dad had.

  • @xfoolsgoldx
    @xfoolsgoldx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have speed watched the video now and It's not not very good and wouldn't recommend to anyone. Thanks for the unboxing and review👍

  • @rixvspinner
    @rixvspinner ปีที่แล้ว

    Find a used Dual 505-2, the best example of an excellent entry level quality turntable worth using. Use a wide range of cartridge choices you want, not just their Ortofon carts like many other Duals. This table has brass main bearing (in which the platter thrust pad sits in a well). The spindle is the other end of that thrust pad. The sub or main table is made of metal. The platter is aluminum. The tonearm bearing can be tightened with over torqueing it for friction free movement, with having play or movement in the arm bearing. You can find this table in the used market for $100 USD no problem, maybe less. It blows away an turntable that retails for $350-$500 USD or less. So, in this case, buy used and you won't trouble finding one since Dual probably produced this since discontinued model by the truck loads. So again, do not waste your time trying to buy a new turntable unless your willing to spend at least $500 USD.

  • @stuffnuns
    @stuffnuns ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did they not put in an USB A-D converter in it, so you could play it thru one’s pc?

  • @josephmay4937
    @josephmay4937 ปีที่แล้ว

    It depends on how the build quality is some are better then others i myself have a numark turntable and it is a great quality brand

  • @SteveInScotland
    @SteveInScotland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If IKEA had included a power adapter it would need to meet various regulations. Skipping the power supply means it can just ship without it having to pass tests or meet regulations. Also they already have products available in every region that have been tested…..the usb chargers. It’s easier for them and let’s be honest, it’s an extra few bucks profit from that adapter.

  • @mr.caramelorecordcollection
    @mr.caramelorecordcollection ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vídeo, Frank. I was thinking in giving to my daughter, but now, i Will not.

  • @bronxcartel6193
    @bronxcartel6193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta hand it to IKEA, they do know how to make some really nice product photos

  • @sjt66
    @sjt66 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the body so small that the platter hangs over the edges? And no dust cover? So just get it all full of dust?

  • @Frank_nwobhm
    @Frank_nwobhm ปีที่แล้ว

    Websters Dictionary has updated the picture for their BPC/Black Plastic Crap entry with a photograph of THIS turntable.

  • @bobbydigital311
    @bobbydigital311 ปีที่แล้ว

    I snagged a seeying all in one player...it actually works really well

  • @mikefinney423
    @mikefinney423 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking about the weight or lack of weight thing.... how does it compare to the old classic Close-N-Play unit? 🤔 Can you weigh them both if you have both?

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will follow up comparing it to a Victrola all in one.

  • @richkurtz6053
    @richkurtz6053 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont like how the power and output jacks are on the side of the case. That makes hiding the wires harder.

  • @oeiras99
    @oeiras99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a word about how well the IKEA player reproduces music, how the stylus tracked or if there was audible distortion, which might be an important consideration. That said, I was expecting some assembly necessary but relieved that it wasn't.

  • @trabucchi
    @trabucchi ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought it and I m happy just for cartridge and design

  • @andyhart5669
    @andyhart5669 ปีที่แล้ว

    I visit a lot of houses with my job. I see a lot of modern record players styled to look like old Dansette cases. I presume they all sound terrible!
    I started collecting records in the 00's when you could get most records for £1 from a charity shop. I needed something to play them on, so turned to a popular online auction site and got a 1980's Marantz for £10. It's plastic, bit has a bit of weight, the platter is aluminium. Not the best player in the world but pretty certain it sounds better than modern budget options.
    I then upgraded to a Pro-Ject who I believe make the best budget record plays available today. Incidentally, you can if you shop around pick up their base model for £149.
    I still play the Pro-Ject most days, and have the Marantz in a second system that I use from time to time.

  • @johnmc3862
    @johnmc3862 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good man Frank!

  • @TheAlkhemiaStudio
    @TheAlkhemiaStudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder, and would love to see a video of this, but how "hackable" is this turn table? as in, how easy would it be to fix/improve what it has. Maybe changing both the cartridge and weights, maybe "deactivate" the preamp with a cable bypass? Maybe changing the plater for a solider/leveled one? Many of the IKEA furniture is hackable on the DIY community, and this player looks "simple" enough??? I dont know, would love to hear your opinion on this or anyone's.

    • @michaelscalisi4316
      @michaelscalisi4316 ปีที่แล้ว

      The biggest problem is the plastic platter. There's no point spending money on an upgraded cartridge for a toy turntable.

    • @johntiggleman4686
      @johntiggleman4686 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe if you could get one for $25, then yeah, you could dink around with it; but not at $199. Better to buy a quality one for that price.

  • @expresidentfortune
    @expresidentfortune ปีที่แล้ว

    what does it sound like through the Peavey 6505MH?

  • @lobbymccawker2083
    @lobbymccawker2083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where's the cover? How do you stop it getting dusty?

    • @pancudowny
      @pancudowny ปีที่แล้ว

      Leave it in the box, at the store, and get yourself a decent turntable--like a Pioneer PL-300--and have it serviced & prepped by a qualified tech. It'll be worth more than even these "entry-level" belt-drive jobs in the long run... trust me!😉

  • @remixed8079
    @remixed8079 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any “record player” will do the trick whether Direct or indirect drive if all you wanna do is listen to music and not do anything extreme (ie mixing, scratching, etc) just make sure you have a decent stylus that’s where the sound quality comes from. Most users will use the pre-amp feature as it makes this much more user friendly when considering what you can hook it up to.

  • @mrhoffame
    @mrhoffame ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I went to Ikea tonight and saw this for the first time. I literally thought it was a prop just sitting on the shelf. Even when I picked it up I though it was just for show. The only thing that tipped me off was the price tag attached to it lol.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's funny - I can easily see how someone could think it's a prop. Cardboard boxes weigh more than this thing.

  • @falkc11
    @falkc11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audio Technica cartidges definitely punch above their weight and probably is the lone reason this turntable was listenable

  • @alfonsoagren414
    @alfonsoagren414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When messuring the flutter n such with that phone app, did hou think about the phone weihht compared to a vinyl disc?
    If the motor is tuned for certain weights and set to use as little energy as possible it could be a problem. A direct driven turntable could make a better result too depending
    Not complaining. Just thinking.
    I am not sure I would use that player. Am used to Technics SL-1200 since my DJ dsys. Hehe. I know audiiphiles will rinkle their noses towards that too, bit Its more than good enough for norma listening.
    Cheers!

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah... as I said it the video, the reading is likely not accurate or shouldn't be taken to seriously (or something like that...I can't recall the words I used)

  • @_B.M_
    @_B.M_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Which app do you use to measure the speed?

  • @JmieYoutube
    @JmieYoutube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you update the video with a tape roll?

  • @lolvalle
    @lolvalle ปีที่แล้ว

    The name "Obegränsad" means "Unlimited". Greetings from IKEA-land (Sweden)! :)

  • @rbartsch
    @rbartsch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An elliptical nude ATN 3652 E stylus improves the sound quality of an AT3600L cartridge a lot. 😉

  • @luedriver
    @luedriver ปีที่แล้ว

    ikea is yet to sell them in Australia, after seeing the video, I kinda see why not and here I was kinda hoping for a cassette deck follow up