Divers Go Down to Andrea Doria One Week After Sinking
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- This newsreel from 1956 was the first dive by divers to the sunken Andrea Doria. Today the wreck is a rusted hulk. The Andrea Doria had a near twin sister called the SS Cristoforo Colombo. It lived it's last years in Venezuela as a boarding house for oil workers. It was scrapped in Taiwan in 1982.
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Would've been something to dive that pristine wreck before the superstructure and upper decks eventually collapsed.
I was on a weekend vacation at Martha's Vineyard, MA which was the closest island to the Andrea Doria. Friday had been a warm sunny day perfect for enjoying the sandy beach. Saturday the fog was extremely dense. It was impossible to see your hand in front of your own face. All the tourists could do was stay inside and amuse themselves without the beach. Sunday morning at the crack of dawn we learned of the wreck of the Andrea Doria in the early a.m. Saturday night. It was so tragic and sad but there was nothing that anyone on Martha's Vineyard could do. It was on the tv filming it from the sky. I will always remember that I randomly happened to be there the weekend of the sinking of the Andrea Doria.
Nantucket Island is
I love all of these wildly over-dramatized films of that era.
+Steve Hammond Diving with equipment they had then was very risky though the commentator absolutely did make the most of it. The shark? Yea well.......
+Steve Hammond Diving with equipment they had then was very risky though the commentator absolutely did make the most of it. The shark? Yea well.......
This. Wreck is too dee p for s a fe. Scuba . Decompression is necesssry.
Multiple mtanks are used for decompress ion stops. Good filming in dark swift current. ,deep.
Still not as bad as the short-attention-span graphics-heavy garbage we get from documentaries today- which are STILL over-dramatized most of the time.
I dove the Andrea Doria in 1984. At 309 ft on regular air, that's pretty good, three DECO-STOPS . First ascent stop 100 ft 5 minutes, second ascent stop 200 ft ,5 minutes, Third ascent stop 50 ft 10 min. 60 ft per minute ascent rate. 300 psi left in Twin 80 cu ft tanks. All for a 10 minute dive. Thermocline was 38 degrees F. At 300 ft. Bubbles micro tiny. Used Aqua Lung regulator, Aqua Lung BCD, lykra suit under 7 mm wetsuit, head hoodie, gloves, Aqua Lung turbo find, High beam search light made a big difference in pitch black water.
Wow….congratulations 🙌…. You didn’t feel the effects of narcosis at those depths??
given that the bottom is only 250' at the Andrea Doria you did well to get to 309'. I would have thought it would take longer than 10 minutes on the bottom to dig a hole 59' deep.
Did you see any sharks
@@coyoteblue9733A few blue sharks 4 to 5 footers.
@@dallasfieldsmy thoughts as well. Seems like the Doria is still sinking…
My father was part of the crew that dove on this expedition.
That's Amazing! Something to be proud of!
Awesome!!
Liar
These guys had balls like watermelons. No breathing mixtures, no positive idea of decompression, suits that offered little protection, they were truly brave men and pioneers of closed circuit diving
And stories these gents have: well back in my day I dived, just like that to a wreck. Nooo, we didnt have fancy dry suits, just our warm water under the wet suit and cold water right on skin of hands. touched the ship and looked around. Well on a ascend I burst my ear, but thats the way it was done ... oh and we ate the shark boys on deck caught that night.
legends
brave pioneers always get get see what many ever wont - but also many pioneers dont get to told the story
@@ImRandomDude if you look I think the one diver here did have a drysuit on. Granted it was one of the old rubber drysuits with no dump valve or any way to control how much air is in it.
I had read about the first divers down to the wreck, totally insane with the equipment available at that time, and still pretty insane today.
Random shark for shock value, ok I can dig it
I've had two friends that have dived the wreck, really only for very experienced divers. It's a serious decompression dive in open water that is often rough. I think they said it took about 4 hours or so for the decompression stops. They had to set spare tanks at the various depths. I also believe, that more people have died, diving the wreck than were killed in the sinking.
Scott Murphy nitrox does not allow you to dive deeper, due to oxygen toxicity. Nitrox simply allows you to breath a higher percentage of oxygen which causes you to breath less nitrogen so you absorb less nitrogen into your blood. That allows you to have a much longer no stop limit depending on the mix you use. Nitrox actually lowers your max operating depth. It’s well worth the class it costs about $125
To date, around 10 divers have died on the Doria over the years. But the death toll in the sinking was 46 so it's quite short of the death toll of the sinking.
as an ex scuba diver , this is not the sort of dive i would have ever tried , too many experienced divers have died diving this wreck . I f you find a boat to take you out there you will have to show you have advanced diver training and will be required to sign a declaration freeing the boat crew of any responsibility of any injury or death to you . Oxygen will kill you if you breathe it more than 10 metres under water, nitrogen becomes poison to the brain at different depths for different people, they use 3 gases now ...not for your average diver.
@@greenseaships We're up to 22 now...
Or you could just do it like these old timer divers did: no deco stops, breathing only compressed air, no submersible pressure gauges, and the whole dive only takes 13 minutes! 😂 those old divers had their brass balls screwed on tight!
I can't think of the Andrea Doria w/o remembering the Seinfeld episode where George was competing w/ an Andrea Doria survivor for a vacant apartment in their building, by trying to persuade the condo board that he had the more miserable life of the 2 and therefore deserves this apartment more.....classic
Andrea Doria and her twin sister Cristoforo Colombo were two of the best looking liners ever built. The later Leonardo di Vinci of 1960 was a slightly larger version and an equally great looking Italia liner. As for the Stockholm, she was completely re-built in the early 1990s and is still sailing today as the 'Athena'.
In case if anyone is wondering, the song in this video is from a movie called "Dark Passage" in 1947, Composed by Franz Waxman. ❤️
We had pretty advanced technology even back then.
You should see the shit we have now
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing a piece of history.
Not gonna lie that camera is pretty legit this footage is better than a lot of recent footage
Louis Malle, the diver with some directing experience here (who broke his ear drum), went on to become a renowned movie director. I had no idea he'd also been a diver.
Carl Cushman Hybels He was married to Candice Bergen
The guy directed one of my favorite movies, Elevator to the Gallows, only a year or two after diving on the Doria. Great filmmaker.
Hope his eardrum healed.
Diver John Moyer has exclusive salvage rights to the ship and was quoted in a published article, about 1-2 years ago, that a section of the bow and the stern have broken off. Sonar scans taken during an expedition in 2016 show this and it’s believed that by 2030, the wreck will have completely collapsed onto itself.
How fascinating it would be to dive on a wreck that's in pristine condition, free of all the growths and other living organisms that invariably cover every surface of a wreck!
To see the wreck as it was the day it sank, particularly the interior, would be fantastic, and presumably much safer than if the wreck had been submerged for lengthy periods and was deteriorating.
Diving a fresh wreck is actually very dangerous. Countless objects are still floating around inside, constantly shifting and settling. Visibility would be almost zero.
@@vonjager Ah, I hadn't thought of that aspect, I'd only thought about visibility!
Thank you for pointing that out and for participating in the discussion, trained divers view wrecks from the safety perspective first and foremost, whilst non divers like myself get distracted by concentrating on things like visibility!
And what about the trauma someone would’ve experienced had they also came across one of the body’s entombed in the wreckage
@@JOHNSMITH-ym2dk In the hypothetical wrecks I spoke of, there were no human remains...
@@felixcat9318 I was talking about the wreck these divers were diving on there were still body’s in the ship when they dived on it
I wish that I could go down to the doria and find the rusted hulk of the Chrysler Norseman concept.
I had no idea about this car till I saw your comment. Looked it up. Wow what a beauty. If it's in a container , seems it could be found in the wreck and be brought up if someone spends enough $. Wonder what it would possibly sell for .
Wait. there was a concept car on the ship!!!!????
@@Starfleet2269 yep, along with a rolls royce
FOO DOG RACING it is more than likely long gone. Either in the case that it got destroyed during the Stockholm collision or if that wasn’t the case it would have rusted many years ago, thus leaving nothing behind.
@@BritannicFan I commented on a video from a guy who dove down to the ship and he said the wreck has begun to collapse he says the bow is gone and so isnt the bridge :S
My grandfather sailed on the Andrea Doria to Europe but didn't go back on the ill-fated trip....I also remember seeing my aunt and uncle off on the Cristiiforo Columbus when they returned to Italy to stay. I have picture us kids on the deck. I remember being petrified of the height of the ship.
The cristoforo colombo like all Italian line ships was painted ugly all white in 1965 and lived its last days as a oil worker hotel in Venezuela.
@@jvarela965 sad
Long ago I read a story where a guy on the Doria tried for hours to free his wife that was trapped in the wrecked cabin. He found a jack and tried to lift the wreckage but she died about that time, and he had to leave her but he got away. Really sad story.
anyone know the source for this story? I would love to know if its really true.
I vaguely remember this from the movie. I’m not sure the movie was 100% accurate.
Fun fact: The opening music was recycled from Dark Passage (1947) starring Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. Common practice at the time.
"The Last Voyage" is my favorite movie. You're correct: the woman trapped in her cabin did die though the movie character did survive. TLV was filmed on the Ile de France which, along with other ships, came to the rescue of those on the Doria The Ile was partly sunk for the movie; a very strange example of art imitating life. I also wanted to mention that The Last Voyage" is a very good movie if you haven't seen it.
It really is! I have it in my collection and usually watch it a few times a year.
Why doesn't someone just drain the Atlantic Ocean so they can walk around the wreck?
yeah, must be pretty easy, right?
Also without the oceans. Humans would go extinct. We can't survive without the ocean. SCIENCE BITCH
TheSkullyTons pffh, such nonsense. Back in the day, it was men against nature! There were endless possibilities, no "laws of physics" keeping men from what they wanted to do. Nowadays it's "oh no u kent do dat because it will destroy dee ozon layer", "omg hundreds of animals r goin extinct!!" Get lost
+Rudolf IX I was merely joking, you buffoon! My God, you're stupid.
Im sorry
On the ships 57th Anniversary of its sinking. I wanna remember the 46 people who died.
That was an awesome show thank you
I have a "Life" magazine showing colour photos of the Doria taken underwater one day after her sinking. They recovered ittems. Some were given to their owners.
how can they know escaping oil would still be covering the water six weeks after the wreck if it's only one week since sinking?
I still remember Standard service stations.
Great upload, TY!!
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I would have thought Mike Nelson would have chosen for the dive team
… more interesting then the ship wreck, TO ME… is how they take light readings and correctly Expose film… in the deep… its a freaking art to do it in normal land conditions… let alone… In DEEP water O_O wow… this is awesome.
I think, one of them said, he was at about 240 feet when he sat in a chair on the promanade(sp?) deck. A number of the people who have died, diving the wreck, get lost inside and run out of air before they can get out to a spare tank.
great footage
16 people have lost their lives diving to explore the ship. It called the Mt. Everest for divers.
I recall Telly Savalas hosting a show about the Titanic; I believe that ship's safe was opened also and/or a bag was opened up. There was another show about the Doria's safe and I believe the host was a man who was in infomercials at the time. It's been so long I don't remember well but there were TV specials about artifacts from both ships--and nothing much turned up in either of them!
Actually, The Last Voyage was based on something that occurred on the Andrea Doria where a woman was trapped in the wreckage near the collision point. I think that they couldn't get her out and she died...although I can't remember for sure.
this is an amazing video.
Strange, any other videos I see of people diving the Doria it's always blacker then midnight under a rock, yet here the visibility is reasonably good.
In 1986 she was renamed Fridtjof Nansen and used as a refugee hostel in Oslo.
It's worth noting that Louis Malle, the camerman whose eardrums burst on this dive, would (partly since he was no longer able to work with Jacques Cousteau) become one of the great French cinéastes of the 20th century. He's known in the US mostly for "Atlantic City" with Burt Lancaster and Susan Sarandon, and for "Au revoir les enfants," his autobiographical look at boys in a Catholic boarding school during the Occupation.
interesting how they say they dived the ship one week after it sunk but in this video it says they can still see the oil leaking out of the ship six weeks after she sunk??
@Scott Murphy your missing the whole point the title is bs
So they dived six weeks after she sunk then?
It's no doubt still leaking oil like the USS Arizona does to this day. Theres a lot of fuel on board.
@Scott Murphy That ship sunk 1941 Didn't it. way, way before Andrea Doria sank
Just a thought, maybe it could be seen on the surface?
The camera used I believe was a Dimitri Rebikoff camera. There were subsequent dives ...elgine ciampi and jacques mayol and that was a near disaster.
So many divers have perished exploring the Andrea Doria.
It was 6 weeks later after the sinking this video was taken!
Wow, what a story!
Not to put these guys down, they did an incredible job with primitive equipment, but they weren't the first divers to reach the wreck.
Peter Gimble and Joseph Fox dove the Doria the day after it sank. In the early 1980's Gimble went back and recovered a safe and opened it on live TV. It had money and travelers checks but nothing else.
They were there gathering eviedence for the hearing. I don't know when that was.
God that sounds like a lot of trouble and danger for 8 minutes on the wreck.
You know, the SS Stockholm is still in service after 63 years since the accident. Her name is changed but shes still sailing. Look it up, Fantastic!
Long before mixed gas diving..crazy dangerous
Lol, I love how it's a blue shark that they were battling, but then magically it was a mako shark that was hanging off the side of the boat! Lolol😁😂🤣
Title says "one week" after sinking, yet the narrator says that this dive took place 6 weeks after the sinking when he talks about the crew spotting the oil slick.
She's still leaking oil 67 years later.
No they where two separate events, Peter Gimble and Joseph Fox where the first to dive the Andrea Doria (the pictures they took where published in Life magazine). And then latter 1984 they pulled the safe from the wreck and opened in on tv.
The Stockholm, a Swedish ship hit it. 50 people were lost. Not to mention several divers who went exploring years later.
That menacing shark scared me.
"160 ft is not that deep"? That's 160 ft to the top of the wreck. Another 90 ft to the bottom. Wreck diving is very dangerous. Easy to become disorientated. Or have debris dislodged and trap you. Lose track of time, overstay your air supply and not have enough left for decomp. Jagged edges. Ship deteriorate surprisingly quickly under water. It's relatively shallow depth makes it attractive lesser experienced divers. Sharks are the least of your worries.
@gregwddriver Agree. I had to turn the volume down first, then mute it. It was simply impossible to not do so. And what the hell about the shark footage?
@Kwolfx The TV special hosted by Telly Savalas?
I`m interested in the Lusitania and John Light and his dives. Have you any insight into the man and his Lusitania experiances? Thanks
It’s crazy how the titanic is in better shape than the Doria.
I don’t think that’s true anymore.
why is the underwater video better and more clear than current film from the wreck
Because it was film which until recently was higher resolution than video.
@FTBoogie I stand corrected, thanks.
@jvarela965 She's still in service with a cruise line registered in Cyprus.
Do they have the full footage of the dive anywhere? Or was the camera turned on for a bit of the dive?
aqua lung ,,,i steel dive with this équipement,,,,,,,,,,,lol,,,good video
The Stockholm laid for a while in Genova and gone through a restyle and named Italia Prima...
The narration clearly says "SIX WEEKS AFTER THE SINKING" not one as the title suggests.
i didn't understand the narrator said 12 feet under the sinking ship? wow that's pretty shallow? any body can explain pls?
@yepheth Another diver died this week at the Andrea Doria, and he was the 16th diver to loose their life.
@jvarela965 - the Stockholm still sails today. She was completely rebuild, many years after the disaster, and was, ironically, renamed the "Italia" - and she now sails as the "Athena"
Creanda now the Astoria.
Poor shark, sharks have been over hunted. They’re incredibly necessary for the sea.
You know nothing. There’s more sharks now than ever. It’s called conservation run amok.
Sharks are not over hunted, nor endangered.
Do you mean where they dropped the weighted line into a porthole that was 12 feet from the center of the ship?? I think they mean 12feet horizontally to the side.
That was an expensive venture for only 13 minutes in the water.....
People forget how dangerous this wreck is. The wreck is very dangerous for divers. It's not the fact the ship is in shallow waters for divers it's the fact that the ship is covered with sharks. It's very dangerous.
Nathan Dowlen Sharks are misunderstood
An array of fishing nets a strong currents add to the extreme danger of this dive to The Doria
The title should be changed as the guy says it's been six weeks since sinking😂
@Kwolfx I agree with yo. They did go down the day after the wreck.
Yes I read that as well. Less than 24 hours after she sank a diver took photos of the wreck.
about 30 wreck explorators lost their life since then on the Andrea Doria remains
Andrea doria is no joke
1956
John Chattertons latest claim is he was a cabin boy on this boat and has a broken coffee cup from the 3rd class dining area to prove it .
@MrTitanicfantic
There isn't much to raise anymore - The hull has mostly collapsed.
@skriptkidjc Yes I did. Others have pointed this out also. I made a mistake.
They're using twin hose open circuit regulators.
I'm surprised they didn't use a bathysphere.
How on Earth did the shark get involved? And why did they have to fight it? They were safe in a boat. Sounds like they were fishing for it.
And why did they lash it to the stern?!? Poor thing! Why did the shark need to die?
The shark didn't eat anyone YET, because it didn't have a chance!! But, it would have, because that's what sharks do- they are Eating Machines!!!
I agree... some people cant spend a day without killing something. They are sickos.
@Kontson I know, I screwed up.
yes open circuit, thank you
I have a strange story of a passenger. Even stranger was the passenger list.
Was shocked most survived.
Is there any survivors that knew betsy.from the ship.
Battaling a menacing shark lol. That makes me laugh.
Gee, I just wanted to see the ship
@michaelwright999 He died in 1990 I believe
@faerychel Good Grief
wat ever happened to the stockholm?
why didn't they just raise it?
@sparkreno19 Andrea Doria had many sister ships, the most spectacular was the Leonardo De Vinci. I have video of it here on TH-cam, abet after it was ruined by being painted all white. Andrea Doria was really not that great. The SS United States was the fastest passenger liner in those days.
I went out on a boat on the Delaware River about 10, 15 years ago, and we were able to get really close to the SS United States. I have pictures of it somewhere. Something really eerie about it.
Really not that great? Considered one of the most beautiful ships ever built by many along with her stunning interiors!
acctualy it took 11 hours to sink..and the people mostly died from the stolkholm hitting them in there cabins not the acttualy sinking
The worst part is the three women that were still alive yet trapped in their cabin because their door was jammed the crew wen to a different room and helped. Girl trapped beneath a ben forgetting about the 3 women trapped in their room must've been horrible to drown slowly as the water was rising may they rest in peace
:o I have read an American seaman who was in the infirmary was forgotten and was woke up to find himself alone.
Anyone know what type of shark that is?
blue shark, for sure. they feature prominently in a couple of films about the wreck
Is that James Caan at 1:59?