After using his ult (3 slash) you will not have any mobility to disengage in combat making him a free target. It would be nice if he can forcefully return to his normal mode to use his dash skill
@@masihimhaf His speed is not good too, in his ult. His stunning skill is also slow, he will still be an easy target for the opponents before using stun+flicker. His defence now is not great too against good enemy composition. He can do good in a match, but weaker then many other characters.
@Muhammad Hanzo but sadly no reduced dmg. He is forced to sustain dmg and only successful if enemy are around a line. If Lapu’s base defence was slightly higher, he was in meta now. If his dmg was slightly higher, he was in meta too. He’s no far from meta because spell vamp for him is good, but better with higher dmg or very well if he had more sustain on himself.
@@gamescgg6864 his old ult had damage reduction on the spot and gave him a mobility skill which made him more sustainable on his own and especially in team fights when trying to chase or escape
I've been using him as a main since last month. Lapu Lapu just needs 2 adjustments, 1) passive just takes too long but has little buff. 2) 3rd skill's 3rd burst animation takes forever to hit
He's an early game hero so falling on late game is quite understandable, and the reason they gave him shield instead of heal is due to his AoE and Spellvamp that allows him get full hp just from a single wave.. Overall, its quite decent. Tho I agree there should be changes made about his passive and lategame damage because unlike other fighter, lapu lapu's damage is falling way too hard. It would also be convenient if they gave him a bit of durability when he's using his 2nd ult, so that he can tank for the team when the tank are just nuts..
Well i like the old one more. Because even in late game he can still be a threat. The old lapu lapu raw burst damage is far more efficient than his revamp. What i like about his revamp is he became very tanky, that I even build him pure tank after I built Blood lust axe.
I liked the old Lapu more, he said " the enemies are many and i am alone, but one slap and kill them all". And he made for destroying teamfights with insane dmg and a dash in his ultimate form. I got a savage with the old Lapu and i only had 10 games with him. If he caught you with his ult you were dead, not to mention his old petrify and flicker combos.
Yup.. I use the passive shield Aegis shield Passive shield again then rosegold shield. And then passive shield again😂 I chain those 3 shileds, it made him unli shield😂
@@moai6225 Argus can't. Plus almost every skills if Lapu Lapu are AoE hence he can stack up his passive pretty much faster than Guine or Argus when there's more enemy units around him
@@averageguy6167 “MORE ENEMIES” is the keyword here, his survivability decreases if there is only one, and thats bad if its someone like zilong , thamuz etc.
@@Sp3nz. Lapu Lapu is made for team similar to Terizla, can't you see all his skills are AoE??? And why would anyone want to convert a team based hero into a 1 vs 1 hero like Thamuz or Aldog. (But Thamuz is also good in team fight)
i think by giving his first skill in base form 2 versions where if they're melee range it has increased damage and has faster cast time and maybe a bit of spellvamp for his first skill like hayabusa would be great for him in the early game against sustain matchups
His previous skills where the most balanced because his 1st could damage in a straight line with no gap, his 2nd is a dash much longer and has speed up buff, his ult has much longer ranged stun and his 2nd phase ult are effective of bringing damage. The Heavy sword state 1st is a ranged skill that deals big damage and slowdown, the 2nd was a short dash but deals more damage than the normal one and his heavy state ult is a burst where he swings his heavy sword that deals large amount of damage around him. His passive was even more simpler to fill because it just needs five bars to activate just like pacquito and aurora by using his skills against heroes and creeps. Now the current lapu-lapu might be more agile than the previous one but his 1st has a gap, his 2nd is shorter and ult is a bootleg version of freya's 1st. His 2nd phase 1st and 2nd skills are a much weaker version of his previous ultimates and the ult deals much bigger damage but needs to swing 3 times where heroes could easily avoid while the previous ultimate just needed to swing once reaps a lot of health. His passive was a gigantic nerf that moonton thought they could fool me that its a buff. The passive no longer fills like the previous version and it fills very slow that they added an asspull feature to his ult where it'll fill half of the bar so he could use the passive where the previous just needed to do the principle. And one of my biggest gripes as an ex-lapu-lapu user is how they changed his awesome buff design into skinny looking faggot, his sword design is mediocre unlike the previous one that looks like it was molded in a stone and he just took it it really looks awesome and the most embarrassing part his voice lines are cringe and that they hired a mediocre filipino voice actor to just get more filipino players but in reality they don't need to.
@@mochi-kun856 then he needs another revamp his passive especially like bro his passive is mad useless it is very situational if youre losing then the passive is useless if youre winning you better end it fast cause its unusable in late game. Which is a shame since minsi tank is very fun and good but downpressed by his useless passive😢
I really want Moonton to change his passive damige into true damage because most of the time I play him is I always build 2-3 attack builds and the rest are defense and he's kinda lacking of damage, yes.
Like him just like many other forgotten fighters. They’re all either have weak dmg or week sustainability. But honestly, compared him to all the other forgotten fighters, he definitely has a kit much better than them to be balanced in this meta like ruby, martis or yu zhong. The only problem is that he doesn’t have a disengage skill other than his normal form 2nd skill, which would mean he’d be dead by the time his BIG sword form’s over. Maybe i’d suggest bringing his OLD 2nd skill back where it swings AND dashes, the only addition, being if it hits multiple enemies gives him the stacked dmg reduction. So like what elgin said, he definitely needs some nerfs reverted or few buffs if moonton wants lapu2 to shine again like what they suddenly did to terizla (then completely nerfs him xd)
Elgin also pointed out that his first skill needs to be flexible when it comes to targeting, which I fully agree on. He's kit isn't bad, it's just moonton neglecting him.
@@JustPhoenix. yeah, the skill being only a poking skill makes it harder to use when he’s fighting up close, so I definitely agree that they should just adjust that so he isn’t always ult reliant
I think we can all agree that beatrix desperately deserves a buff. Her 4 guns and mobility are not enough when compared to other marksmen. Moonton should give her 7 guns instead imo edit : this is satire, I am not being serious. Please stop threatening me lol
What are you talking about, you think a hero that deals 2k damage per hit need to have mobility like benedetta? Also this video is about Lapu-Lapu, not Beatrix
I agree with you Elgin. As a Lapu-Lapu main for 2-3 years I really notice that he is good in early to mid game but it cannot carry the team because his damage in the late game seems weak. That's why now I only use him rarely. But his sustainability is in the top tier.💪
I actually see no reason for him to be forgotten tbh But if they were to buff him then add more movement speed and defense stats to his ult and I think he should be good. Also he needs to last longer in ult form cause 10 secs feels too short. I mean sometimes I wonder what's the use of building war axe on him
Lapu was really good when he was revamped but the rise of newly released op heroes like Paquito, julian, Yin, revamped thamuz, revamped leomord pushed lapu into forgotten section.
I think my future prediction below about Lapu-lapu's buffed passive will make his enhanced basic ATK more spammable: (1) Energy gain 10 energy per hit (half from non-hero unit/s) will change to 4 energy per second (taking/dealing hits from/to each unit also gain the same amount); (2) Requirement/s: 100 energy change to 50/100 energy (if any); (3) Revamped effect: 250(+65*Hero Lv) Shield change to restores 5/10% Max HP(scale with used energy); (4) Physical DMG dealt: 150% Physical ATK change to 126(1*Hero Lv)(110% Extra Physical ATK)~152(2*Hero Lv)(120% Extra Physical ATK (scaled with used energy); And (5) New effect: Enhanced Basic ATK also deals damage to enemies behind the target.
As a Lapu-lapu main i do agree his early game damage high. The only improvement i can think of is sustaining long fights and mobility on his ultimate form. Most of the meta fighters have sustain to last long battles while lapu-lapu will gonna run out of his skills and ultimate when it comes to long fight, i think they should add some little bit of mobility on his ultimate 2nd skill + plus decrease cooldown and long lasting ultimate that can last long against sustain and tanky enemies. the reason why i want him to last long fight was because he is kind of squishy without his ultimate because of defense buff. Without his ultimate, his damage will gonna fall off real hard and his tankiness is also gone.
I've been playing Lapu since 2018 even before his revamp. I'd say his old version was better. This version of Lapu has no mobility in his ult which gives him the most damage. Charging in with his ult makes you choose from his 3 skills which is just, damage, stun, or damage reduction. He has no mobility in the stance which leaves him reliant on his spellvamp and then hoping to get away if he already used all his three skills while there are other enemies chasing. In this meta, his damage is not enough to sustain himself and really needs mobility back in his ult. I'd have more to say but obviously I just preferably want his old version back lol
Yeah me too I miss the old one. The old skillset of lapu lapu is very effective in ambush the only thing that is pulling it down in the META before is the difficulty of his passive to stacks.
I think mlbb should add a stun when lapu-lapu uses his ult because its pretty easy to escaep when you have an enemy that has a dash skill and his enchanted first skill should be faster to hit so you cant eascape :)
Using Lapu-Lapu is like weilding a blunt knife, so you feel like it's harder to cut things. I've been checking him out recently and I feel the developers should work on his passive while on ult mode. Like faster rage regen during his ult, so he can make the most out of his passive skill.
@@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger Yeah but its still a Great Sword in Heavy Sword State. I like the old lapu more since you can kill squishy hero almost instantly. The only problem for him before his revamp is his passive stack gain and his Ultimates CD, but when you have already built max CD Items, you can cast his enhanced 3rd Skill TWICE!!!
i think lapu is good the fighters that need a upgrade is 1:alucard sure the damage is good but i feel like he should have higher lifesteal 2:argus maybe just return the 1sec stun then he will be ok again 3.4:minsi and martis
6:45 That would be quite problematic in the current meta, as it's currently defined by defense-ignoring damage. Much worse when this defense-ignoring damage is HP defined. **AHEM Karina Karrie Thamuz and the entire Malefic-DHS squad** Adding more true damage heroes would be a dirty move by Moonton... I'd hope not.
I am using Lapu Lapu as my main hero, have over 3 k matches with him. -First of all, I did notice couple of rookie errors when Elgin played him 😛 -Second, for me, the old Lapu Lapu was undeniably perfect there is no need for revamp but ok, it is what it is. - His passive is fair to say useless, at least they could give him critical damage when he charges with full pasive if not anything else, so, critical damage or bigger shield or nothing else but faster way to build his passive. - And as my last opinion about this video, that very first animation when Lapu is jumping in Ult form and smashes ground, that animation is waaaay too long, and if you add time that is needed to activate ult (3 smashes) it takes forever especially that last hit, while he is in that form easy target if he jumps in team fight because he cant activate passive while his loooong timing animations end, not to mention that he can't escape once he throws himself in the fire of battle. This is my opinion from over 3 k matches with my lovely Lapu Lapu, and I hate, just hate to see him suffers from that nerfs on his back, not to mention that moontoon forgot about some new skins for Lapu, it is such a shame god damnit
maybe can add extra mv speed when use ulti second skill base on enemy hit, as second skil get dmg reduction base on enemy hit, so with extra move speed, should be nice
The nerf I really feel is his 2nd skill in ult form they reduce the dmg reduction per hero hit. I agree on faster of refill of his passive and a small dmg buff.
@@Charl1e_Sanchez yeah I know, he swings three times and you can control the joystick every swing, I was just suggesting maybe make its function like Grangers Ult where you can aim the three where you want them to swing
I can adjust here a bit: in lapu's enhanced skill, the 3rd skill rather giving it mobility , It should be given user controlled( like the 2nd skill of terizla). I think this would be better
i really like that ML heros are just "i will slay the demons!" or just "i will destroy the light" While a guy called Lapu-Lapu pass the vibe "I preffer bleed till death in the battlefield then see my people suffer" 🗿🗿
revamp passive: LAPU LAPU can b picked only when your team's tank is a GODLY atlas. I mean look at tit, the atlas in solo in this match was a legend who won 80% of the team fight by himself, rest left for teammates to finish. Every ult, he caught 2+ enemies, what a CHAD!
Passive: when the bar is full and attack a hero or non hero target lapu lapu he gain 10% of his max hp if lapu lapu is full hp he gain 5% shield Inhans first skill: 4% faster casting and when attack a hero or non hero target with you:re basic attack after you cast the 1st skill you deal true dmg of his max dmg Inhans ult: 5% faster casting of the skill
i remember when i first started playing ml and he quickly became my main because he was so annoying for heroes with low mobility (this was a really long time ago). now most heroes have some type of dash skill so it’s easy to escape his ult. miss old lapu and old ml
Yes I use a lot on Lapu-Lapu and what I want his skills is great sword fighting styled that does the first skill three damage activate skill second a dash damage third it change different skills one it shoots big massive blade second crowd control that pulls enemies towards you last one would be deadly slam that does crowd control too and his passive is breaking armor that makes everyone else too weak to trying to reduce his physical
I think if they would add true damage to lapu lapu is not a bad idea like the enhanced justice blades will deal true damage to enemies but based on their total lost hp or the final blow on lapu lapu's 3rd ultimate(while on heavy sword mode) would be a great adjustment for his damage can still follow up on enemies on late game♥️⚔️
Lapu-Lapu is one of the Hero who have longer Animation or delayed skill before it Hit but once it Hit its more rewarding. I guess i could agree to the enhance 2nd skill to have a small dash just like his old skill. Or making his Attack Animation faster. I think he's more on teamfight oriented so giving him a substantial damage or sustain would be great instead of a Shield why not heal seems it was harder or takes long to activate. Other alternative on his passive was keep the Shield but adding a new effect that increase his healing on just like an Oracle but on his passive to balance maybe tone the Shield a bit. His ultimate last Hit make it true damage.
He has a similar problem with martis fighter build, damage greatly falls off late game while not having that much sustain early game to compensate. Ironically both of them have anti cc + dmg reduction effect that kinda does nothing to vale's damage ult's damage, silvanna or dyroths penetration, and etc.. the skill casting is also a bit slow for anti cc + dmg reduction skills most of the time (3.martis,2.(lapu)²,1.yss is how I would rank the skill cast animation). Definitely the three need some buffs. Especially knowing that lapu and yss are heroes based on certain countries.
one of the worst things about his revamp, is the possibility to miss the first skill when the enemies are literally on the middle or a little bit close and the change on his second enchanted skill ... he lost mobility for more damage and a less safer possibility to poke the enemies, I miss his old enchanted skills especially for that dash, I think that he could regain all of his old enchanted skills expect his ult, this enchanted ult is better, maybe a knock up effect on the last strike
Lapu Lapu poking skills and enchance passive in early laning phase is the most annoying against lapu lapu and if you dont have a immunity your doom at his combo with enough damage so I like to pick Yin enchance s1 helps a lot and all pen against tank lapu lapu or delete my war axe/boots for blood Lust for sustain if lapu lapu survive
One think can make him good is that lower his hp is faster his energy recharges and also sheild value increases according to physical dmg or hp built. This Little Thing can make him best jungler or a tank easily
I want to clear out something on 3:00 I'm an Argus user and I can tell you the part "receiving" damage doesn't really works His passive only replenish when attacking or just idling. Sometimes I think this is a bug since it's been a long time that they didn't fix this yet, it's still on his passive description
I'm not rlly a Lapu Lapu main, but I've tried him out once before and he rlly isn't that terrible, he just need some good adjustments to give him a spotlight. Here are the adjustments I think that are rlly good for Lapu Lapu, Lapu Lapu mains or pretty anyone that has played him are welcome to change these adjustments. *Adjustments:* Changing his passive: Lapu Lapu seems to be the kind of fighter that can take enough dmg just like a few other fighters but his passive just isn't helping out with that. Instead of giving him a measly 3 second shield that doesn't even increase at all, I would replace with a healing effect that increases based on his level, I would also make it a bit faster to fill up his passive bar. Either that, or I would make it that when his passive bar does fill up it will give either spell vamp or lifesteal on ALL skills, this effect will stop if the bar runs out. This one is probably a little too much tho. Changing his first skill: The idea of making his first freely aimable instead of being fixed is a good idea since the dmg will get weaker if the enemy is in the middle of it. To balance this out I would nerf the dmg on his first skill. Ultimate adjustments: In terms of his ultimate, I would make it so that his second skill turns into a dash as a means of granting him mobility. Either that, or I would make it so that we can exit his ultimate phase. Ultimate casting sped up: I would increase the speed of the ultimate casting so that enemy's won't have an easy time dodging it. Nerfing the dmg a bit would probably be enough to balance this adjustment out. Improve his late game: Since Lapu Lapu falls off in the late game, I would improve his late game dmg to allow him to dominate in the late game. To balance this out, I would have to nerf his early game dmg.
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1. speed of the 1st skill needs to be a lil' faster. 2. the cooldown time of the 2nd skill need to be lessen 3. i think the 3rd skill need to be revamp instead of smashing 3x ... whirlwind style lioe balmond 1st skill so it can combo for the enhanced 1st & 2nd skill.
i think all it is is that he needs more overall damage and also he needs an option to revert to normal normal state for skill 2, and maybe reduce amount of hits needed for passive
agreed to late game damage and passive, I observe that most of my games is like this, 2 atk items 2 def items and boots, the last remaining item determines how he will become on late game, another def item, he is durable as tank with sustainability but lack dmg, if another atk item, his late game dmg can burst heroes but still to squishy (1 combo kill or ur the one ded instead, maybe adjust his basic skills or passive or add more mobility on his ulti state ( or casting speed)
if you really think about it, he is doing better before his revamp which I thought was unnecessary because he already has good skill combination. But the REAL problem is that his fell down from raw damage to relying on items and it quite literally killed him especially those who don't know how to build a sustain hero and like to play him as burst
His old skills had a lot of synergy and setup too. His ult gave stun and damage reduction immediately. Which you can follow up with his ult which literally dealt half health to heroes back in that meta in just one blow. Unlike now, his damage relies on three hits in which enemies can just dodge and come back to finish Lapu off.
The only change I want now for Lapu-Lapu is that instead of a slow effect when he uses his ulti in normal sword stance, it stuns his enemies in that small circle area. This will be more than enough. Everyone will start playing him then. Ok maybe not everyone, but majority will. Like close to 90%.
One of his ultimate's saving grace was the passive effect of his enhanced 2nd skill, which is damage reduction. I think in his enhanced state they should also add some movement speed and attack damage as buff to make him stronger in ultimate form at least. He was revamped but easily forgotten because of his consecutive nerfs, and that makes his revamped skills useless
His old ult immediately gave him damage reduction on the spot which gave him engaging so much easier..All they really had to do was give him better damage in his old version to compete in today's meta...
The fact that The fighter role usually has the king and queen of life steal and some are forgotten Lolita and aurora not getting a revamp Are the ones that can't have a good usage rate most of the time
Agree.. I miss my main who carried me to mythic really easy. After the revamp, i don't use him anymore, too squishy, useless stacking, low damage, low spell vamp.
@@tanhouzer Same Lapu Lapu was so fun to use moonton ruined it for us we didn't ask for the revamp. We asked for bug fixes and cheats they didn't listen to it. They revamped all of those heroes that i really loved playing seriously this sucks.
We just need the 2nd skill with dash in the ultimate form like the old days with damage reduction ...... Probably it will be hard for enemies to escape.
I remember lapu lapu meta it was after his revamp i think? (When they changed his ult skills (yea old times when he throw his sword)) That was scary stuff when he jumped on you from nowhere Btw i think i saw him in competition league matches not so long ago? I think the things he needs to BUFF is definitly make it easier for 3rd slash of ult to hit its so easy to miss it and his 2nd during ult? Like sometimes you also just will swing it at air accidentaly and sometimes seems to don't do very much He he seems like a morph based hero (bacily don't fight without morph- ult) and in my opinion ult skills are way to easy to miss I mean missing don't happen often but when it happen you are screwed Also i think his ult is too short to ussualy even use the Basic attack dmg bonus
yeahh it really affected his performance on battlefield.. Danggg.. Poor lapu.. I remember him being used by a lot of offlaners before.. like he can even go to a base and block the minions.
I don't mean to start a fight nor to prove a point but if lapu gets an upgrade now there's a chance that can lead to a nerf bigger than the buff given to him. Plus it's not his time(yet) to go to meta right now. Edit: jic if I practically didn't say any reasons onto why he shouldn't be buffed cuz 1. He's a beast in teamfights already. Adding more to that would be unfair/nerf. 2. The shield for his passive is meant to be abused in teamfights (again). If played correctly. (1st skill then ult to the teamfight for more shield) you get to do twice your passive. 3. The three second shield is already so damn useful especially for escaping or to take more damage for your team. 4. Health is not the problem with lapu, he be big boi when it goes to lifesteal.(except when the enemies have anti lifesteal, then you become a tank T^T) 5. The first skill is good enough to be fixed (for me at least) Edit uhh4?: 6. Hid ult is good enough to not be bothered. His first has that unshown slow with it before the stun. His second is an instant circular slash. His ult is slow but for the cost of many cc cancelations. (I'm a lapu main also but I don't mean to offend anyone)
Honestly when that time lapu2x was a beast his nerfs really affected him that much. But let's say Hypothetically they just cancel that really previous nerfs next update for whatever reason, He would be pick from time to time but because of Esme and other heroes he would still be out shined a bit. Not saying his not good but there are other better options than him which well it is what it is. Plus yeah tbh he's pretty fine as he is , it's minsi that needs some bit of buffing because despite being an anti dash hero his Ult is easy to dodge if you're careless tbh.
After using his ult (3 slash) you will not have any mobility to disengage in combat making him a free target. It would be nice if he can forcefully return to his normal mode to use his dash skill
That why flicker is must for him..jungler role are not suitable for him
@@masihimhaf His speed is not good too, in his ult. His stunning skill is also slow, he will still be an easy target for the opponents before using stun+flicker. His defence now is not great too against good enemy composition. He can do good in a match, but weaker then many other characters.
@Muhammad Hanzo but sadly no reduced dmg. He is forced to sustain dmg and only successful if enemy are around a line. If Lapu’s base defence was slightly higher, he was in meta now. If his dmg was slightly higher, he was in meta too. He’s no far from meta because spell vamp for him is good, but better with higher dmg or very well if he had more sustain on himself.
@@gamescgg6864 his old ult had damage reduction on the spot and gave him a mobility skill which made him more sustainable on his own and especially in team fights when trying to chase or escape
that's true
I've been using him as a main since last month. Lapu Lapu just needs 2 adjustments,
1) passive just takes too long but has little buff.
2) 3rd skill's 3rd burst animation takes forever to hit
Yeah I agree even though I am alu main lapu lapu is fun to use.
@Muhammad Hanzo Doesn't matter.
It gives barely any benefit in his arsenal.
@Muhammad Hanzo its so dogshit that it barely makes a difference
@Muhammad Hanzo he also gain 70% percent hybrid defense when his ult form is active but they also nerf it
@Muhammad Hanzo after his ult he is pretty useless he is too reliant on his ult to be any effective in a team fight
He's an early game hero so falling on late game is quite understandable, and the reason they gave him shield instead of heal is due to his AoE and Spellvamp that allows him get full hp just from a single wave.. Overall, its quite decent. Tho I agree there should be changes made about his passive and lategame damage because unlike other fighter, lapu lapu's damage is falling way too hard. It would also be convenient if they gave him a bit of durability when he's using his 2nd ult, so that he can tank for the team when the tank are just nuts..
Well i like the old one more. Because even in late game he can still be a threat. The old lapu lapu raw burst damage is far more efficient than his revamp. What i like about his revamp is he became very tanky, that I even build him pure tank after I built Blood lust axe.
I liked the old Lapu more, he said " the enemies are many and i am alone, but one slap and kill them all". And he made for destroying teamfights with insane dmg and a dash in his ultimate form. I got a savage with the old Lapu and i only had 10 games with him. If he caught you with his ult you were dead, not to mention his old petrify and flicker combos.
Yup..
I use the
passive shield
Aegis shield
Passive shield again then
rosegold shield.
And then passive shield again😂
I chain those 3 shileds, it made him unli shield😂
Old lapu was one heck of a hero. Good for team fight and 1v1. Huge ass damage on ult state
@@tanhouzer yeah until a pro esme lambasted you
3k first skill on ult state
But no dash tbh on ult stance
I kinda agree on the passive change, something similar to Guinivere could work since Lapu-Lapu is a Caster/Fighter kind of hero.
Bro, unlike Guine or Argus, Lapu Lapu can charge his passive even from his skills
@@averageguy6167 Bro Guinivere can also charge her passive using skills and i think for argus too
@@moai6225 Argus can't. Plus almost every skills if Lapu Lapu are AoE hence he can stack up his passive pretty much faster than Guine or Argus when there's more enemy units around him
@@averageguy6167 “MORE ENEMIES” is the keyword here, his survivability decreases if there is only one, and thats bad if its someone like zilong , thamuz etc.
@@Sp3nz. Lapu Lapu is made for team similar to Terizla, can't you see all his skills are AoE??? And why would anyone want to convert a team based hero into a 1 vs 1 hero like Thamuz or Aldog. (But Thamuz is also good in team fight)
I'm very much enjoying the way Elgin is explaining in this video it's just very understandable and it even has visuals which all of us like 😌
They will buff him, or even give him a new effect when casting a skill
When they want to give him a new skin
Moonton logic
Just like what they did before they gave him starligh skin😌
Then after that... NERF
@@daryl9340 chou no need bluff, he is too strong
@@iamlaosno.1rogerandwanttop160 yeah, also chou really fun to play. But I have a question, why is your username that?
@@iamlaosno.1rogerandwanttop160 very weak without tower lol
i think by giving his first skill in base form 2 versions where if they're melee range it has increased damage and has faster cast time and maybe a bit of spellvamp for his first skill like hayabusa would be great for him in the early game against sustain matchups
His previous skills where the most balanced because his 1st could damage in a straight line with no gap, his 2nd is a dash much longer and has speed up buff, his ult has much longer ranged stun and his 2nd phase ult are effective of bringing damage. The Heavy sword state 1st is a ranged skill that deals big damage and slowdown, the 2nd was a short dash but deals more damage than the normal one and his heavy state ult is a burst where he swings his heavy sword that deals large amount of damage around him. His passive was even more simpler to fill because it just needs five bars to activate just like pacquito and aurora by using his skills against heroes and creeps. Now the current lapu-lapu might be more agile than the previous one but his 1st has a gap, his 2nd is shorter and ult is a bootleg version of freya's 1st. His 2nd phase 1st and 2nd skills are a much weaker version of his previous ultimates and the ult deals much bigger damage but needs to swing 3 times where heroes could easily avoid while the previous ultimate just needed to swing once reaps a lot of health. His passive was a gigantic nerf that moonton thought they could fool me that its a buff. The passive no longer fills like the previous version and it fills very slow that they added an asspull feature to his ult where it'll fill half of the bar so he could use the passive where the previous just needed to do the principle. And one of my biggest gripes as an ex-lapu-lapu user is how they changed his awesome buff design into skinny looking faggot, his sword design is mediocre unlike the previous one that looks like it was molded in a stone and he just took it it really looks awesome and the most embarrassing part his voice lines are cringe and that they hired a mediocre filipino voice actor to just get more filipino players but in reality they don't need to.
I think Lapu-lapu is already a strong life steal beast. I think the one who really needs an upgrade is Minisittar 🤔💭
But minsi is getting revamp already
@@mochi-kun856 braxy need buff
He's just not good vs tanky comps that's all
@@mochi-kun856 then he needs another revamp his passive especially like bro his passive is mad useless it is very situational if youre losing then the passive is useless if youre winning you better end it fast cause its unusable in late game. Which is a shame since minsi tank is very fun and good but downpressed by his useless passive😢
Nah terizla spell vamp is much higher than him so lapu lapu really does need a buff
Elgin: Lapu-Lapu needs buff.
Also Elgin: *destroy the enemies with Lapu-Lapu*
ally atlas was rlly good
I really want Moonton to change his passive damige into true damage because most of the time I play him is I always build 2-3 attack builds and the rest are defense and he's kinda lacking of damage, yes.
Like him just like many other forgotten fighters. They’re all either have weak dmg or week sustainability.
But honestly, compared him to all the other forgotten fighters, he definitely has a kit much better than them to be balanced in this meta like ruby, martis or yu zhong.
The only problem is that he doesn’t have a disengage skill other than his normal form 2nd skill, which would mean he’d be dead by the time his BIG sword form’s over. Maybe i’d suggest bringing his OLD 2nd skill back where it swings AND dashes, the only addition, being if it hits multiple enemies gives him the stacked dmg reduction.
So like what elgin said, he definitely needs some nerfs reverted or few buffs if moonton wants lapu2 to shine again like what they suddenly did to terizla (then completely nerfs him xd)
Elgin also pointed out that his first skill needs to be flexible when it comes to targeting, which I fully agree on. He's kit isn't bad, it's just moonton neglecting him.
@@JustPhoenix. yeah, the skill being only a poking skill makes it harder to use when he’s fighting up close, so I definitely agree that they should just adjust that so he isn’t always ult reliant
Elgin:This is a bad idea
Also Elgin:Let's do it
MOONTON should return Lapu-Lapu Second return his DASH SKILL when ULTIMATE FORM
It kinda suck tbh
The damage is not great, the dash is slow and quite short
@@baguette1363 compared to the second skill that you have 75% dmg reduction you're right
I find it weird the Lapu's dash has a longer cooldown than other fighters, I mean it is just a simple dash.
I think we can all agree that beatrix desperately deserves a buff. Her 4 guns and mobility are not enough when compared to other marksmen. Moonton should give her 7 guns instead imo
edit : this is satire, I am not being serious. Please stop threatening me lol
Nah
What are you talking about, you think a hero that deals 2k damage per hit need to have mobility like benedetta? Also this video is about Lapu-Lapu, not Beatrix
yeah buff Wanwan too, she needs to be more tanky
@@dondopyrocanto1530 I don't even know if you're being serious or just sarcastic
Bruh is this a sarcasm 🤣
But no Pls, just nerf that overpower beast already.
The only reason she doesn't get nerf probably cuz of her M4 skin
I agree with you Elgin. As a Lapu-Lapu main for 2-3 years I really notice that he is good in early to mid game but it cannot carry the team because his damage in the late game seems weak. That's why now I only use him rarely.
But his sustainability is in the top tier.💪
I am a lapu2 too
Sustain is his game
He becomes dependent on the team in late game becouse he lacks damage
This kind of narrations along side with gameplay make me feels like having a two way conversation.
I actually see no reason for him to be forgotten tbh
But if they were to buff him then add more movement speed and defense stats to his ult and I think he should be good. Also he needs to last longer in ult form cause 10 secs feels too short. I mean sometimes I wonder what's the use of building war axe on him
Oh I miss old lapulapu, I had 564 matches with him 64.5% wr, I could ambush those squishies everytime I had my ult.
I felt that
Lapu was really good when he was revamped but the rise of newly released op heroes like Paquito, julian, Yin, revamped thamuz, revamped leomord pushed lapu into forgotten section.
Lol before those op heroes rise... Lapus revamped was nerfed heavily... Its not that he was overshadowed but nerfed to the ground
@@nyrieneeisher4079 I agree, after the nerfs, I don't even see him anywhere
I think my future prediction below about Lapu-lapu's buffed passive will make his enhanced basic ATK more spammable:
(1) Energy gain 10 energy per hit (half from non-hero unit/s) will change to 4 energy per second (taking/dealing hits from/to each unit also gain the same amount);
(2) Requirement/s: 100 energy change to 50/100 energy (if any);
(3) Revamped effect: 250(+65*Hero Lv) Shield change to restores 5/10% Max HP(scale with used energy);
(4) Physical DMG dealt: 150% Physical ATK change to 126(1*Hero Lv)(110% Extra Physical ATK)~152(2*Hero Lv)(120% Extra Physical ATK (scaled with used energy);
And (5) New effect: Enhanced Basic ATK also deals damage to enemies behind the target.
"this is probably a bad idea"
"let's do it"
As a Lapu-lapu main i do agree his early game damage high. The only improvement i can think of is sustaining long fights and mobility on his ultimate form. Most of the meta fighters have sustain to last long battles while lapu-lapu will gonna run out of his skills and ultimate when it comes to long fight, i think they should add some little bit of mobility on his ultimate 2nd skill + plus decrease cooldown and long lasting ultimate that can last long against sustain and tanky enemies. the reason why i want him to last long fight was because he is kind of squishy without his ultimate because of defense buff. Without his ultimate, his damage will gonna fall off real hard and his tankiness is also gone.
I've been playing Lapu since 2018 even before his revamp. I'd say his old version was better. This version of Lapu has no mobility in his ult which gives him the most damage. Charging in with his ult makes you choose from his 3 skills which is just, damage, stun, or damage reduction. He has no mobility in the stance which leaves him reliant on his spellvamp and then hoping to get away if he already used all his three skills while there are other enemies chasing. In this meta, his damage is not enough to sustain himself and really needs mobility back in his ult. I'd have more to say but obviously I just preferably want his old version back lol
Me to i miss old lapu lapu
Old is gold I hope montoon bring back lapu lapu
yep
Yeah me too I miss the old one. The old skillset of lapu lapu is very effective in ambush the only thing that is pulling it down in the META before is the difficulty of his passive to stacks.
I think mlbb should add a stun when lapu-lapu uses his ult because its pretty easy to escaep when you have an enemy that has a dash skill and his enchanted first skill should be faster to hit so you cant eascape :)
Using Lapu-Lapu is like weilding a blunt knife, so you feel like it's harder to cut things.
I've been checking him out recently and I feel the developers should work on his passive while on ult mode. Like faster rage regen during his ult, so he can make the most out of his passive skill.
Blunt knife
Well I mean he does uses a stone sword
@@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger Yeah but its still a Great Sword in Heavy Sword State. I like the old lapu more since you can kill squishy hero almost instantly. The only problem for him before his revamp is his passive stack gain and his Ultimates CD, but when you have already built max CD Items, you can cast his enhanced 3rd Skill TWICE!!!
The "1+1" reference is criminally underappreciated. Or am I considered a boomer at this point?
Revert him back the way he was when released....old lapu ❤️
Lapu Lapu back then was already maxed out
i think lapu is good the fighters that need a upgrade is
1:alucard
sure the damage is good but i feel like he should have higher lifesteal
2:argus maybe just return the 1sec stun then he will be ok again
3.4:minsi and martis
Yes alu is jst a jumping feeder, argus is good already if we Play safe
I feel he need his second durability back
@MeliodasZ woah singapore top 2 supreme granger:0
Wait they removed the dmg reduction on his enhanced 2nd skill??
@@Gromper7878 no just nerfed it just like his shield in passive
6:45 That would be quite problematic in the current meta, as it's currently defined by defense-ignoring damage. Much worse when this defense-ignoring damage is HP defined. **AHEM Karina Karrie Thamuz and the entire Malefic-DHS squad** Adding more true damage heroes would be a dirty move by Moonton... I'd hope not.
He's so strong like phoveus. But they so slow. They reminded me like terizla
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Soon my "Cyclops" GamePlay will Recognised by Others Like My Idol
I am using Lapu Lapu as my main hero, have over 3 k matches with him.
-First of all, I did notice couple of rookie errors when Elgin played him 😛
-Second, for me, the old Lapu Lapu was undeniably perfect there is no need for revamp but ok, it is what it is.
- His passive is fair to say useless, at least they could give him critical damage when he charges with full pasive if not anything else, so, critical damage or bigger shield or nothing else but faster way to build his passive.
- And as my last opinion about this video, that very first animation when Lapu is jumping in Ult form and smashes ground, that animation is waaaay too long, and if you add time that is needed to activate ult (3 smashes) it takes forever especially that last hit, while he is in that form easy target if he jumps in team fight because he cant activate passive while his loooong timing animations end, not to mention that he can't escape once he throws himself in the fire of battle.
This is my opinion from over 3 k matches with my lovely Lapu Lapu, and I hate, just hate to see him suffers from that nerfs on his back, not to mention that moontoon forgot about some new skins for Lapu, it is such a shame god damnit
maybe can add extra mv speed when use ulti second skill base on enemy hit, as second skil get dmg reduction base on enemy hit, so with extra move speed, should be nice
The nerf I really feel is his 2nd skill in ult form they reduce the dmg reduction per hero hit. I agree on faster of refill of his passive and a small dmg buff.
For some reason, I prefer Lapu Lapu's old skills sequence lol
WE WILL WAIT FOR LAPU TO BE UPGRADED
Everyone gangsta 'til Lapu-lapu puts the hell-of-shame of every youtubers and their main meta heroes. 🤣🔥
I would suggest to make his three slash function the same as Grangers Ult, you can control where to swing his giant sword
Do you know what lapu-lapu’s E-Ult does??????
@@Charl1e_Sanchez yeah I know, he swings three times and you can control the joystick every swing, I was just suggesting maybe make its function like Grangers Ult where you can aim the three where you want them to swing
That last team fight was very nice
Elgin: this hero needs an upgrade
But lapu lapu is already op compared to other fighters
"i think Lapu-lapu deserve some buff"
Moonton:"you gonna got buff when you got your damn new skin!"
I can adjust here a bit: in lapu's enhanced skill, the 3rd skill rather giving it mobility , It should be given user controlled( like the 2nd skill of terizla). I think this would be better
i really like that ML heros are just
"i will slay the demons!"
or just
"i will destroy the light"
While a guy called Lapu-Lapu pass the vibe
"I preffer bleed till death in the battlefield then see my people suffer" 🗿🗿
revamp passive: LAPU LAPU can b picked only when your team's tank is a GODLY atlas. I mean look at tit, the atlas in solo in this match was a legend who won 80% of the team fight by himself, rest left for teammates to finish. Every ult, he caught 2+ enemies, what a CHAD!
Passive: when the bar is full and attack a hero or non hero target lapu lapu he gain 10% of his max hp if lapu lapu is full hp he gain 5% shield
Inhans first skill: 4% faster casting and when attack a hero or non hero target with you:re basic attack after you cast the 1st skill you deal true dmg of his max dmg
Inhans ult: 5% faster casting of the skill
i remember when i first started playing ml and he quickly became my main because he was so annoying for heroes with low mobility (this was a really long time ago). now most heroes have some type of dash skill so it’s easy to escape his ult. miss old lapu and old ml
That granger clutch play though!!!
Soo smooth
4:52 Things you can't do when using Phylax.
Yes I use a lot on Lapu-Lapu and what I want his skills is great sword fighting styled that does the first skill three damage activate skill second a dash damage third it change different skills one it shoots big massive blade second crowd control that pulls enemies towards you last one would be deadly slam that does crowd control too and his passive is breaking armor that makes everyone else too weak to trying to reduce his physical
I think if they would add true damage to lapu lapu is not a bad idea like the enhanced justice blades will deal true damage to enemies but based on their total lost hp or the final blow on lapu lapu's 3rd ultimate(while on heavy sword mode) would be a great adjustment for his damage can still follow up on enemies on late game♥️⚔️
Elgin just flexing how good he is at playing.. 😏
also thanks to his good teammates esp. Atlas..
_nice heroes composition too_
Lapu-Lapu is one of the Hero who have longer Animation or delayed skill before it Hit but once it Hit its more rewarding. I guess i could agree to the enhance 2nd skill to have a small dash just like his old skill. Or making his Attack Animation faster. I think he's more on teamfight oriented so giving him a substantial damage or sustain would be great instead of a Shield why not heal seems it was harder or takes long to activate. Other alternative on his passive was keep the Shield but adding a new effect that increase his healing on just like an Oracle but on his passive
to balance maybe tone the Shield a bit.
His ultimate last Hit make it true damage.
He has a similar problem with martis fighter build, damage greatly falls off late game while not having that much sustain early game to compensate. Ironically both of them have anti cc + dmg reduction effect that kinda does nothing to vale's damage ult's damage, silvanna or dyroths penetration, and etc.. the skill casting is also a bit slow for anti cc + dmg reduction skills most of the time (3.martis,2.(lapu)²,1.yss is how I would rank the skill cast animation). Definitely the three need some buffs. Especially knowing that lapu and yss are heroes based on certain countries.
Martis is not like this guy
Says lapu needs a buff: shows that lapu melts enemies
The title need to be. Lapu-lapu deserves love.
Lapu-Lapu plus Angela would be lit. I've tried it before and it works really well.
one of the worst things about his revamp, is the possibility to miss the first skill when the enemies are literally on the middle or a little bit close and the change on his second enchanted skill ... he lost mobility for more damage and a less safer possibility to poke the enemies, I miss his old enchanted skills especially for that dash, I think that he could regain all of his old enchanted skills expect his ult, this enchanted ult is better, maybe a knock up effect on the last strike
elgin: i think lapu lapu needs an improvement
Mizaki: german cut until the game finish
I think they should make his ult jump actually stun enemies like we need a pay-off for jumping into the enemies having no way to escape
Lapu Lapu poking skills and enchance passive in early laning phase is the most annoying against lapu lapu and if you dont have a immunity your doom at his combo with enough damage so I like to pick Yin enchance s1 helps a lot and all pen against tank lapu lapu or delete my war axe/boots for blood Lust for sustain if lapu lapu survive
Gloo:"sigh" I never get any one to use me.
Yes same to X.borg he needs an upgrade too
Bring back the slow effects
One think can make him good is that lower his hp is faster his energy recharges and also sheild value increases according to physical dmg or hp built. This Little Thing can make him best jungler or a tank easily
I want to clear out something on
3:00
I'm an Argus user and I can tell you the part "receiving" damage doesn't really works
His passive only replenish when attacking or just idling. Sometimes I think this is a bug since it's been a long time that they didn't fix this yet, it's still on his passive description
I'm not rlly a Lapu Lapu main, but I've tried him out once before and he rlly isn't that terrible, he just need some good adjustments to give him a spotlight. Here are the adjustments I think that are rlly good for Lapu Lapu, Lapu Lapu mains or pretty anyone that has played him are welcome to change these adjustments.
*Adjustments:*
Changing his passive: Lapu Lapu seems to be the kind of fighter that can take enough dmg just like a few other fighters but his passive just isn't helping out with that. Instead of giving him a measly 3 second shield that doesn't even increase at all, I would replace with a healing effect that increases based on his level, I would also make it a bit faster to fill up his passive bar. Either that, or I would make it that when his passive bar does fill up it will give either spell vamp or lifesteal on ALL skills, this effect will stop if the bar runs out. This one is probably a little too much tho.
Changing his first skill: The idea of making his first freely aimable instead of being fixed is a good idea since the dmg will get weaker if the enemy is in the middle of it. To balance this out I would nerf the dmg on his first skill.
Ultimate adjustments: In terms of his ultimate, I would make it so that his second skill turns into a dash as a means of granting him mobility. Either that, or I would make it so that we can exit his ultimate phase.
Ultimate casting sped up: I would increase the speed of the ultimate casting so that enemy's won't have an easy time dodging it. Nerfing the dmg a bit would probably be enough to balance this adjustment out.
Improve his late game: Since Lapu Lapu falls off in the late game, I would improve his late game dmg to allow him to dominate in the late game. To balance this out, I would have to nerf his early game dmg.
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1. speed of the 1st skill needs to be a lil' faster.
2. the cooldown time of the 2nd skill need to be lessen
3. i think the 3rd skill need to be revamp instead of smashing 3x ... whirlwind style lioe balmond 1st skill so it can combo for the enhanced 1st & 2nd skill.
i think all it is is that he needs more overall damage and also he needs an option to revert to normal normal state for skill 2, and maybe reduce amount of hits needed for passive
agreed to late game damage and passive, I observe that most of my games is like this, 2 atk items 2 def items and boots, the last remaining item determines how he will become on late game, another def item, he is durable as tank with sustainability but lack dmg, if another atk item, his late game dmg can burst heroes but still to squishy (1 combo kill or ur the one ded instead, maybe adjust his basic skills or passive or add more mobility on his ulti state ( or casting speed)
if you really think about it, he is doing better before his revamp which I thought was unnecessary because he already has good skill combination. But the REAL problem is that his fell down from raw damage to relying on items and it quite literally killed him especially those who don't know how to build a sustain hero and like to play him as burst
His old skills had a lot of synergy and setup too. His ult gave stun and damage reduction immediately. Which you can follow up with his ult which literally dealt half health to heroes back in that meta in just one blow. Unlike now, his damage relies on three hits in which enemies can just dodge and come back to finish Lapu off.
That atlas was carrying the teamfights
It's not about popularity anymore, it's about loyalty. Even my roulette spinner app doesn't choose him.
The only change I want now for Lapu-Lapu is that instead of a slow effect when he uses his ulti in normal sword stance, it stuns his enemies in that small circle area. This will be more than enough.
Everyone will start playing him then. Ok maybe not everyone, but majority will. Like close to 90%.
One of his ultimate's saving grace was the passive effect of his enhanced 2nd skill, which is damage reduction. I think in his enhanced state they should also add some movement speed and attack damage as buff to make him stronger in ultimate form at least.
He was revamped but easily forgotten because of his consecutive nerfs, and that makes his revamped skills useless
His old ult immediately gave him damage reduction on the spot which gave him engaging so much easier..All they really had to do was give him better damage in his old version to compete in today's meta...
The fact that
The fighter role usually has the king and queen of life steal and some are forgotten
Lolita and aurora not getting a revamp
Are the ones that can't have a good usage rate most of the time
"Umalis kayo sa aming LUPAIN" Damn that line make proud as s Filipino
Where could I check nerf patch history? Same like 1:27
Bring back the old Lapu Lapu and his old voice lines.
Agree.. I miss my main who carried me to mythic really easy.
After the revamp, i don't use him anymore, too squishy, useless stacking, low damage, low spell vamp.
@@tanhouzer Same Lapu Lapu was so fun to use moonton ruined it for us we didn't ask for the revamp. We asked for bug fixes and cheats they didn't listen to it. They revamped all of those heroes that i really loved playing seriously this sucks.
They just need to reverse his previous nerf. Especially the damage reduction that he gets when his enhanced second skill connect.
They should add a passive where he eats lechon after the energy is full healing his hp
We just need the 2nd skill with dash in the ultimate form like the old days with damage reduction ...... Probably it will be hard for enemies to escape.
Lapu lapu just needs more fancy skins 🥲
I remember lapu lapu meta it was after his revamp i think? (When they changed his ult skills (yea old times when he throw his sword)) That was scary stuff when he jumped on you from nowhere
Btw i think i saw him in competition league matches not so long ago?
I think the things he needs to BUFF is definitly make it easier for 3rd slash of ult to hit its so easy to miss it and his 2nd during ult? Like sometimes you also just will swing it at air accidentaly and sometimes seems to don't do very much
He he seems like a morph based hero (bacily don't fight without morph- ult) and in my opinion ult skills are way to easy to miss
I mean missing don't happen often but when it happen you are screwed
Also i think his ult is too short to ussualy even use the Basic attack dmg bonus
yeahh it really affected his performance on battlefield.. Danggg.. Poor lapu.. I remember him being used by a lot of offlaners before.. like he can even go to a base and block the minions.
Minsi: OK (CLENCHED FIST)
As a fearless national hero of the Philippines he should get a buff.
I don't mean to start a fight nor to prove a point but if lapu gets an upgrade now there's a chance that can lead to a nerf bigger than the buff given to him. Plus it's not his time(yet) to go to meta right now.
Edit: jic if I practically didn't say any reasons onto why he shouldn't be buffed cuz
1. He's a beast in teamfights already. Adding more to that would be unfair/nerf.
2. The shield for his passive is meant to be abused in teamfights (again). If played correctly.
(1st skill then ult to the teamfight for more shield) you get to do twice your passive.
3. The three second shield is already so damn useful especially for escaping or to take more damage for your team.
4. Health is not the problem with lapu, he be big boi when it goes to lifesteal.(except when the enemies have anti lifesteal, then you become a tank T^T)
5. The first skill is good enough to be fixed (for me at least)
Edit uhh4?:
6. Hid ult is good enough to not be bothered. His first has that unshown slow with it before the stun.
His second is an instant circular slash. His ult is slow but for the cost of many cc cancelations.
(I'm a lapu main also but I don't mean to offend anyone)
sir Elgin where you can find patch notes history ? Please send a link
Wish that they bring back his Fighter/Assassin back
0:17 no way you just did the rewind which Shinmen Takezo did very recently in his intro
It's like Odette's ult cause if you're in the center high possibility you'll die
Is there a site where you can see a the patch history of a hero just like what Elgin had shown?
Hororo chan and Elgin hyping up all forgotten/getting forgotten heroes XD
Honestly when that time lapu2x was a beast his nerfs really affected him that much.
But let's say Hypothetically they just cancel that really previous nerfs next update for whatever reason, He would be pick from time to time but because of Esme and other heroes he would still be out shined a bit.
Not saying his not good but there are other better options than him which well it is what it is.
Plus yeah tbh he's pretty fine as he is
, it's minsi that needs some bit of buffing because despite being an anti dash hero his Ult is easy to dodge if you're careless tbh.
why was the vignette feature removed? or maybe it was only me?