It certainly does feel that way. I was at my Orthodox Church today for the Divine Liturgy. It being the first Sunday of Lent we celebrated the restoration of the icons and made a procession outside the church holding our icons. As soon as we stepped outside of the church as a congregation, the contrast between us as the Church and the outside world was jarringly evident. Most people took no notice of us, or peered with mild curiosity. From their perspective we probably looked like religious nuts or something. After the service was over I left and drove home. While driving I became painfully aware of how madly the whole world was rushing around, how distracted and disconnected they all were. How much the world around us is a drab concrete and asphalt mess. Gone is any innocence or goodness in human nature. Two years ago life as we knew it was decimated by COVID. Israel is currently in the process of bombing Gaza to smithereens, with no end in sight. The US is a basket case. It’s hard to see any way out of this.
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” - Matthew 7:21
The "controversial" parts should not surprise anyone. This has always been the mindset and teaching coming from Mount Athos. People are too lukewarm today and want to hear "nice things" to make them feel better.
@@srbenda2977 Yes absolutely, as Starac Gavrilo, Otac Tadej, Sv Serafim Sarovski, Sv Lavrentije Cernigovski, etc... told us. Its not far now. These secular Serb and Russian plastic imitations of Serbia and Russia are nearing their end, and - like our Lord God Jesus Christ - will rise from the dead in all the glory of Holy Apostolic Orthodox Christianity upon their dissolutions. Mihailo, the Russian Tsar, of the Romanov line; Andrej, the Serb Tsar, of the Nemanjic line. Beograd destroyed by gigantic earthquake. New capital in Krusevac. Russian Tsar will crown Serb Tsar with the Imperial crown of Tsar Uros. Serbs will have all their lands from Zadar to Solun liberated, and will have the Romanians and Bulgarians join their Tsardom. Together, the Russian & Serb Tsars will form the last shield against the Antichrist, as the leaders of the new Israel of the New Testament.
Love, pray, and witness to others but reject firmly ecumenism. The Orthodox Church cannot be compromised. Those Orthodox who embrace ecumenism (which is anti-Christ) will have abandoned the Faith.
I had a dream on May 2nd 2021 that a bunch of people were going into churches and walking accross the streets which some came on horseback. They seemed to be from different Christian faiths I saw some including Amish on horseback. They were carrying a cross interleaved like a basket. They seemed to be celebrating an Easter service. My question would be if a Protestant denomination wanted to enter in Communion with the Orthodox Church and were to agree with Orthodox doctrine?Would there be any kind of economia in regards to liturgy? Would it be possible to baptise a Protestant denomination into the Orthodox Church?
Lex orandi lex credendi est. Protestants by and large don’t have anything Orthodox recognize as worship. There have been whole parishes and even groups of them who have become Orthodox, by chrismation of each person in them and the wholesale adoption of normal worship. They’ve stayed and prospered as churches. There is no way to become Orthodox without liturgical worship.
Yes, it should be possible. It would be no different than any person or group of people who want to accept Orthodoxy and be baptised into the Orthodox faith. Pretty sure there have been instances of entire congregations being baptised into Orthodoxy.
It isn't that unheard of, it happened with the Christ the Savior Brotherhood and the EOC. But they were brought into standing jurisdictions. It takes time to build an orthodox phromena, too much opportunities for prelest and there needs to be taught...for years. St Paul was taught for 14 years in the wilderness before he began his ministry. It's foolish to think otherwise.
This a important question, but it seems many saints of our day have discerned this is not the time for non-commemoration. If many of the clergy and faithful together began to non-commemorate, I think there would be a case made for such a move, as the quantity of people would make a greater impact and do more to lead to healing the Church from impact of the heretical teachings of some of Her members. But one or two who begin to non-commemorate doesn’t seem to bring the healing canon 15 is designed to encourage. We need to discern the times, follow the saints, and trust our fathers in the faith.
@vasiliossmith2616 is this is Athonite Hieromonk who was recently in Australia telling the faithful not to attend any parishes in communion with the local Churches around the world (i.e. Greek EP, ROCOR, Serbian, etc)? Telling them only to commune at a few parishes in Greece? If so, my understanding is that he is not necessarily strictly following the canons because canon 15 does not require a priest to cease commemoration let alone cut communion. Canon 15 guards the priest who ceases commemoration of his own bishop if his bishop preaches heresy, but doesn’t require the priest to cease commemoration. Ceasing commemoration, even if commendable on one level, may not bear the desired fruit. It’s an extremely important decision for a priest to make. Additionally, cutting communion with all the local Churches is not what the saints of our day have done and I do not support such a move.
@@OrthodoxWisdom actually I went and saw him when he came to Sydney Australia me personally due to the situation in Ukraine and the communion with the so called bishop of Kyiv Epfanios have stop communion with Makarios of Australia. When the Ecumenical synod took place in Crete we said to wait and see how things will unfold as we all know it was a fake synod that took uncanonical desions but with the Ukrainian issue things have gone from bad to worst. Apostolic cannons Holy Fathers cannons Ecumenical synod's Teaches us very different from what they have taught us today. To be honest I feel they have let's us down as the Orthodox church of yesterday is water down to everything is ok do not worry have love and peace.While our Holy Fathers took a stand and said where are you going what are you doing take a stand speak up keep the faith of the Holy Fathers and of the one Holy catholic Apostolic,but after Crete we believe in many catholic Apostolic churches as we are not the only true Apostolic Church.
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Sounds like a lot of religious orthodoxy. When prophets of old spoke it was clear. Not like many today , vague events coming with little to no call for repentance.
I am as critical of the Phanar as anyone but gerondism is not the way. You merely engage circular thinking without even taking the historical Roman Catholic Church into consideration on its own terms as a valid expression of traditional Christianity. Retreating as you do to tautology of ‘expert opinion’, the gerondism that is a decadent modern trend you betray the wholeness of the church, not exemplified in soi-disant spiritual experts but in the collaboration of all the faithful laity with clergy and monastics. Placing the latter on a pedestal is wrong-headed and results in twisted rigorism and the death of intellect. Peter Heers exemplifies this pernicious trend.
@@claesvanoldenphatt9972and you’re a fool. A blind layman. “Gerondism” another made up word from lukewarm Orthodox who don’t like hearing the truth. Away with you
Roman Catholicism is a heresy. All the Saints through the ages since Rome fell into heresy have stated this. This isn’t “Gerondaism” this is simply following the consensus of the Saints throughout the ages.
@@NoeticInsight what heers is selling is by no means a consensus patrum, it’s cherry-picked ‘curated’ tendentious blather of obscurantists out of touch with the main streams of Orthodox theology, hung up on negative definitions. And the Roman Catholics are NOT heretics, they are in schism. There is a difference. Heresy is choice to believe untruth contrary to dogma. I suppose you like to go around calling Syriac, Armenian, Coptic and Ethiopian Christians heretics as well. There is a special place for such as you.
“It is later than you think!”- Fr Seraphim Rose
Amen.
I agree how about Eastern Catholicism
What about the uniates? I mean what do you want to know? I was one for several years to include 6 years of involvement with a uniate "monastery."
It certainly does feel that way. I was at my Orthodox Church today for the Divine Liturgy. It being the first Sunday of Lent we celebrated the restoration of the icons and made a procession outside the church holding our icons. As soon as we stepped outside of the church as a congregation, the contrast between us as the Church and the outside world was jarringly evident. Most people took no notice of us, or peered with mild curiosity. From their perspective we probably looked like religious nuts or something. After the service was over I left and drove home. While driving I became painfully aware of how madly the whole world was rushing around, how distracted and disconnected they all were. How much the world around us is a drab concrete and asphalt mess. Gone is any innocence or goodness in human nature. Two years ago life as we knew it was decimated by COVID. Israel is currently in the process of bombing Gaza to smithereens, with no end in sight. The US is a basket case. It’s hard to see any way out of this.
The uniate ‘church’ is a cynical roman construct intended to demolish Orthodoxy.
Thank you. I feel it’s even more important now that we lay ascetics double down on prayer! For the Whole World! Follow St Silouan too!
“This sort of demon only comes out by prayer and fasting”
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”
- Matthew 7:21
The "controversial" parts should not surprise anyone. This has always been the mindset and teaching coming from Mount Athos. People are too lukewarm today and want to hear "nice things" to make them feel better.
This is a much needed message! Lord have mercy!
Powerful & profoundly timely. Thank you, Timothy!
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@@ETFRoss you too, amigo!
JESUS IS NEXT TO US ☦️🇬🇷
We only need him to win this war
¡ Χριστοσ Ανεστη !
Lord Jesus Christ son of God have Mercy on me a sinner 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you
Father Seraphim Rose spoke & wrote about these times. Ceaseless prays for those suffering & for those caught in the web of darkness.
Powerful
I never heard that application of the prophet, "lawlessness shall increase and the love of many shall wax cold". Amazing
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Thank you for exposing ecumenism as well. The orthodox in the WCC is a tragedy
Satan is very slick. Original Church is the only right direction to Lord. still, up to each one of us to go through that small door.
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The Orthodox Tsar Patriarch (Michael, the Great Prince) is nearing his coming. God will send us a brief respite to prepare for the very end.
There are Serbian prophecies who say that Russia and Serbia are going to become a Tsardom again so I find your comment very interesting.
@@srbenda2977 Yes absolutely, as Starac Gavrilo, Otac Tadej, Sv Serafim Sarovski, Sv Lavrentije Cernigovski, etc... told us. Its not far now.
These secular Serb and Russian plastic imitations of Serbia and Russia are nearing their end, and - like our Lord God Jesus Christ - will rise from the dead in all the glory of Holy Apostolic Orthodox Christianity upon their dissolutions.
Mihailo, the Russian Tsar, of the Romanov line; Andrej, the Serb Tsar, of the Nemanjic line.
Beograd destroyed by gigantic earthquake. New capital in Krusevac. Russian Tsar will crown Serb Tsar with the Imperial crown of Tsar Uros.
Serbs will have all their lands from Zadar to Solun liberated, and will have the Romanians and Bulgarians join their Tsardom.
Together, the Russian & Serb Tsars will form the last shield against the Antichrist, as the leaders of the new Israel of the New Testament.
Very unhappy that the Russian Orthodox Church at the highest level keeps on having relationship with the Vatican / Rome / Papacy.
Satan is most dangerous when he appears as a angel of light , you need to look elsewhere
Love, pray, and witness to others but reject firmly ecumenism. The Orthodox Church cannot be compromised. Those Orthodox who embrace ecumenism (which is anti-Christ) will have abandoned the Faith.
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
I had a dream on May 2nd 2021 that a bunch of people were going into churches and walking accross the streets which some came on horseback. They seemed to be from different Christian faiths I saw some including Amish on horseback. They were carrying a cross interleaved like a basket. They seemed to be celebrating an Easter service.
My question would be if a Protestant denomination wanted to enter in Communion with the Orthodox Church and were to agree with Orthodox doctrine?Would there be any kind of economia in regards to liturgy? Would it be possible to baptise a Protestant denomination into the Orthodox Church?
There's already the Western Rite in ROCOR
Lex orandi lex credendi est. Protestants by and large don’t have anything Orthodox recognize as worship. There have been whole parishes and even groups of them who have become Orthodox, by chrismation of each person in them and the wholesale adoption of normal worship. They’ve stayed and prospered as churches. There is no way to become Orthodox without liturgical worship.
Contact Father Peter Heers, I remember him talking about his former Anglican congregation all moving into Orthodoxy together back in the early 90s.
Yes, it should be possible. It would be no different than any person or group of people who want to accept Orthodoxy and be baptised into the Orthodox faith. Pretty sure there have been instances of entire congregations being baptised into Orthodoxy.
It isn't that unheard of, it happened with the Christ the Savior Brotherhood and the EOC. But they were brought into standing jurisdictions. It takes time to build an orthodox phromena, too much opportunities for prelest and there needs to be taught...for years. St Paul was taught for 14 years in the wilderness before he began his ministry. It's foolish to think otherwise.
Has the time come to up hold the 15 cannon of the second synod of Saint Fotios the great
This a important question, but it seems many saints of our day have discerned this is not the time for non-commemoration. If many of the clergy and faithful together began to non-commemorate, I think there would be a case made for such a move, as the quantity of people would make a greater impact and do more to lead to healing the Church from impact of the heretical teachings of some of Her members. But one or two who begin to non-commemorate doesn’t seem to bring the healing canon 15 is designed to encourage. We need to discern the times, follow the saints, and trust our fathers in the faith.
@@OrthodoxWisdom what is your opinion about geronda savvas lauriotios and his strict following of the Holy Fathers and cannons on the issue
@vasiliossmith2616 is this is Athonite Hieromonk who was recently in Australia telling the faithful not to attend any parishes in communion with the local Churches around the world (i.e. Greek EP, ROCOR, Serbian, etc)? Telling them only to commune at a few parishes in Greece? If so, my understanding is that he is not necessarily strictly following the canons because canon 15 does not require a priest to cease commemoration let alone cut communion. Canon 15 guards the priest who ceases commemoration of his own bishop if his bishop preaches heresy, but doesn’t require the priest to cease commemoration. Ceasing commemoration, even if commendable on one level, may not bear the desired fruit. It’s an extremely important decision for a priest to make. Additionally, cutting communion with all the local Churches is not what the saints of our day have done and I do not support such a move.
@@OrthodoxWisdom actually I went and saw him when he came to Sydney Australia me personally due to the situation in Ukraine and the communion with the so called bishop of Kyiv Epfanios have stop communion with Makarios of Australia.
When the Ecumenical synod took place in Crete we said to wait and see how things will unfold as we all know it was a fake synod that took uncanonical desions but with the Ukrainian issue things have gone from bad to worst.
Apostolic cannons
Holy Fathers cannons
Ecumenical synod's
Teaches us very different from what they have taught us today.
To be honest I feel they have let's us down as the Orthodox church of yesterday is water down to everything is ok do not worry have love and peace.While our Holy Fathers took a stand and said where are you going what are you doing take a stand speak up keep the faith of the Holy Fathers and of the one Holy catholic Apostolic,but after Crete we believe in many catholic Apostolic churches as we are not the only true Apostolic Church.
Yes,Amen!
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Glory to God ❤
Sounds like a lot of religious orthodoxy. When prophets of old spoke it was clear. Not like many today , vague events coming with little to no call for repentance.
I am as critical of the Phanar as anyone but gerondism is not the way. You merely engage circular thinking without even taking the historical Roman Catholic Church into consideration on its own terms as a valid expression of traditional Christianity. Retreating as you do to tautology of ‘expert opinion’, the gerondism that is a decadent modern trend you betray the wholeness of the church, not exemplified in soi-disant spiritual experts but in the collaboration of all the faithful laity with clergy and monastics. Placing the latter on a pedestal is wrong-headed and results in twisted rigorism and the death of intellect. Peter Heers exemplifies this pernicious trend.
Read the saints.
“Gerondism” pfft
And it’s Father Peter..
@@gobucs3146 he’ll always be Peter Heers to me, I knew him as a zealot layman. Gerondism is his métier, pretty much the only string on his harp.
@@claesvanoldenphatt9972and you’re a fool. A blind layman.
“Gerondism” another made up word from lukewarm Orthodox who don’t like hearing the truth.
Away with you
Roman Catholicism is a heresy. All the Saints through the ages since Rome fell into heresy have stated this. This isn’t “Gerondaism” this is simply following the consensus of the Saints throughout the ages.
@@NoeticInsight what heers is selling is by no means a consensus patrum, it’s cherry-picked ‘curated’ tendentious blather of obscurantists out of touch with the main streams of Orthodox theology, hung up on negative definitions. And the Roman Catholics are NOT heretics, they are in schism. There is a difference. Heresy is choice to believe untruth contrary to dogma. I suppose you like to go around calling Syriac, Armenian, Coptic and Ethiopian Christians heretics as well. There is a special place for such as you.