Y'know if they had COMBINED the two stories, they could've easily had the lightning that hit Wally be generated by the Weather Wizard. Imagine the alliteration. WHAM! Weather Wizard's wayward whims whacks Wally West with watts!
@@kayrayouvmir5766 Wally's backstory was expanded on, but it didnt really contradict that much and wasn't really about angst. It added a whole lot of dimension to him and helped make his story MORE hopeful IMO.
@@eliburry-schnepp6012 whether it was a good retcon or not is subjective, but making his dad terrible did contradict his earlier appearances, for example in the NTT, where Wally has nothing but fondness for both of them and we see them (with Wally alone, so no appearances to keep there) be a genuinely happy family
Flash fact: "Barry Allen: Simultaneously a great hero, and a complete utter disaster who causes as much harm as he solves" is the origin of the Flash fandom's refrain of "*Damnit*, Barry!"
@@benwasserman8223 just finished season 3. I loved savitar, but when they reveal him to be just an edgy future Barry - it really hurt the rest of the season.
I consider Season 5 the best. Season 6 is pretty good . . . Until Post-Crisis when the writers decided to yet again take away Barry’s Speed because it’s not like THAT isn’t old by now. Looking forward to Season 7.
In his defense, The Flash is probably one of the few heroes in the world I can actually see doing the "I'm narrating what's happening even though it should be over by the time I'm done talking" thing, super speed and all.
I honestly think Wally got his groove back in DC Death Metal: Speed Metal. Wherein he not only got to reunite with the other Flashes, but also gave BMWL the name of "Batman Who Tries Too Hard." Which is what I call the guy now.
@@jlev1028 I always thought it was a reference to the bright colours of his costume. If I remember right, robins have a bright red chest, or something like that.
Wally and Dick Grayson are my two favorite heroes. They were among the first of the classic sidekicks to ascend and did it well. Both honored their mentors, but forged their own legacy. Even though it was never the intent, you can see how Wally progressed. He started with the ultimate fanboy dream. He got not only to meet his hero, but become his partner and his hero was pretty much everything he'd hoped. Maybe there was a bit of rose colored glasses. Barry wasn't perfect, but tried really hard and usually succeeded. Then Wally got sick. The thing he loved most was killing him. He became a bit depressed and cynical, but was still there when he was needed. Then came a triple whammy. He was cured. His mentor died. His powers were vastly reduced. The pressure of filling Barry's shoes along with being only 21 and not really having any job prospects got to him. He became a bit self centered, something exacerbated by coming into a lot of money. He started off a bit put off at being compared to Barry because he didn't think others thought he measured up and neither did he. Fortunately, he'd formed a good group of friends to help him and his confidence grew. He also began reconnecting with speedsters of the past, present, and future to form a family of sorts. He became a mentor himself. Then he became a husband and father. Then they started screwing with him.
I seriously cannot believe that Wally got his powers in the EXACT SAME WAY as Barry. XD Somebody was out of ideas that day, weren't they? Still, better stories than Mar-Vell's opening, and it is cute to see Wally so eager to help people -- AND manage to do so without screwing it up accidentally, like I was expecting! Nice when the kid is allowed to be competent.
Wally has always been both my favorite Teen Titan and my favorite Flash. I related to him more than the other Titans because he was the only member of the team to come from a stable two parent home, like I did. When DC let Wally grow up during the 90s, Wally had a lot of interesting character growth becoming comfortable in his place as a legacy hero, successfully carving out his own niche apart from his mentor. Wally rocks. And golly gee, that artwork for the Weather Wizard story was the cat's meow!
"You see, it's something that has to be a secret forever...between me, and my friend, Mr Flash." Wally's identity became public knowledge during his tenure as the Flash, before it magically got forgotten.
Specifically, Wally West revealed his identity to the world for 16 to 18 years and 200 issues before he made a deal with the Spectre, who was Hal Jordan at the time, to make sure that everyone will forget that he is the Flash.
I was part of the Anime fan club in school. We had presidents and secretaries and all that. They'd help organize bake sales to raise money for the club so that we could go to conventions the next city over. They'd organize the trips too.
I'm not american, but i grew up watching Make Mine Music from Disney, and there's an entire short telling how the youth of those decades called themselves cats, so i did wondered how much it was correct. Cool. -Teo
Seriously, though, Flash's Rogues should just sell their tech and make billions of dollars more than they could ever hope to make with crime. Can you even *imagine* how much money the U.S. military would pay for the cold or mirror gun?
Now I want an Elseworlds story where all the villains actually do patent their inventions and sell them to make millions, instead of becoming villains. I really wonder what that world would look like.
This episode... Flash bringing a strange child to his workplace, dousing him in liquids, giving him new clothes, giving him a ring, the child saying that this is as easy for him as it is for the Flash, the 'bear back' at 19:17, Flash having 'a strange feeling but a good one', and Wally having to 'keep a secret'... Let's just say I'm just glad that Wally didn't call Barry 'sempai'
14:18 I was in an Anime Club in high school, and we did sort of have reading of the minutes and such, but only for meetings that involved planning on fund raisers and the like. We also operated out of a classroom so we sort of had an office but not really. We did however have a leadership structure... that was normally ignored. There was a leader and co-leader that were supposed to be the main talking heads and lead meetings, but it often boiled down to myself being the resident tall bastard(and one of the only two guys in the club) having to get everyone's attention for the two quiet girls that ran the club to even be heard, and sometimes for me to say what they wanted to because they couldn't really project their voices very well. Funny story about how I even joined that club, I was a loner in high school, I had no friends and would often spend break times just walking the halls, well one day as I was walking past the classroom where the Anime club was, a rather large lady did a power slide in front of me and looked up at me and asked if I liked Anime, I said yeah, and she jumped up, grabbed me by the arm and dragged me into the Anime club meeting and told me I was now a member of the club. So I was effectively kidnapped into the club.
Wally West in the comics gets treated like garbage. Wally West in the cartoons gets treated better and offered more respect than the comics. What does that say about DC Comics as a whole?
Ironically, in Young Justice, that greater respect is kinda what got him “killed”. The writers apparently wanted to kill Barry, but because Barry wasn’t a main character, it was decided Wally would be better for storytelling purposes and emotional investment.
I just wish they also didn’t try to pitch her as the new “Iron Man” because that name isn’t like wasp, green lantern or wolverine where a different gendered character can just slip into it as a permanent replacement. Maybe as a temporary replacement where she’s posing as the original but the name isn’t really something you can retrofit for a new person.
Honestly with the entire Outlaws storyline going on, all the young heroes are probably disinterested in needing adult supervision to do any superheroism. That includes legacy characters and former sidekicks
What's weirder though: Wally having an identical accident to get his powers, or a lightning bolt of a different kind changing his outfit to the more well known Kid Flash costume? Also, slight disappointment: was hoping the next episode would be on the Doom Patrol.
That opens a new question: why did the lightning decide to dress him as Kid Reverse Flash? Seriously, Am I the only one who thinks his costume is more reminiscent of Thawne than Barry?
6:21 nah its just people in the silver age just thought 100% faster than we do. How else would they get their ever eternal internal monologues!? 11:41 barry allen, terrible hero, fantastic accidental villain.
wait he can make rainbows? why doesn't he search for lepracaun gold and skittles? you would think a profesional thief would consider that possibilities especially in the DC universe
I think it’s really more that they don’t know what to do with him. The Flash franchise is focused more on Barry nowadays, and they can’t de-age the guy and make him his sidekick again, so they kind of feel that Wally is this extra piece that doesn’t fit anymore.
You know I just realized, sidekicks like Robin and Kid Flash, being created to appeal tot he kids that read their comics, that basically the same as "introducing a kid onto a show to appeal to kids." I guess this proves that it can be done WELL, then again we probably have these to blame for WHY it started in the first place.
If Flashpoint is the DC Universe equivalent of One More Day, then Wally is sadly the equivalent of Peter and MJ's marriage. Seriously, as Lewis pointed out in his COIE review, Post Crisis lasted for 25 years, Wally was the main Flash for 23 of those years and had 2 of the greatest runs on the Flash (Mark Waid and Geoff John's respectively). It's INSANE to me that DC thought something like HiC would go over well, essentially after they we're PRAISED for bringing Wally back at the start of Rebirth!
" Flashpoint is the DC Universe equivalent of One More Day, then Wally is sadly the equivalent of Peter and MJ's marriage." Technically the Flash is the equivalent of Spider man : Both heroes are lovable nerds (Barry Allen and Peter Parker) who due to accident with science become fun smartass jokey heroes (Spider man and Wally West), they have a colorfull rogues gallery, they have a enemy with the same powers as them and who knows their secret identity (Reverse Flash and Venom), they both had their girlfriends (Gwen Stacy, Iris West) killed by their worst enemies (Green Goblin, Reverse Flash), they have allies who have the same powers as them (Wally West/Miles Morales, Jesse Quick/Spider Gwen) and they both had adventures involving the multiverse (Flash of Two worlds, Spider verse).
"Wally was the main Flash for 23 of those years and had 2 of the greatest runs on the Flash (Mark Waid and Geoff John's respectively)" Between the two, Wally also had a good run written by Grant Morrison.
I liked how they explained Wally’s origin in the Young Justice cartoon where he simply mentioned that he intentionally replicated the experiment that gave Barry his powers and that’s how he got them.
4:16 It's funny that it mentions "black lightning" in BOLD text because soon they would have a character named BLACK LIGHTNING. Was this planned or a lucky accident of foreshadowing.
Kinda a missed opportunity when Wally said "the cats back home" not to have one of your pets walk around on screen. Then again I'm sure trying to get one of those guys to intentionally walk into a video shoot isn't too fun to set up. Cats always do the opposite of what you want to do anyway.
That's going to be the new The Room. Not so much because it's a poorly made movie that has gained infamy all over the internet, but because it's tracking towards becoming an overused cliche to be referenced.
I like how the origin got retconned to where Wally West wasn't just a fana of Flash but a teen scientist himself who was interested in the science behind Flash's powers and deliberately recreated the experiment. And with Iris knowing about his secret, I like how it was retconned that he trusted her enough to tell her long before their wedding because that's way too big a drama bomb to drop on wedding night.
"Queer Duck" is actually the name of a series. I remember seeing the movie at video rentals back when those existed. The only other character I could name was "Openly Gator."
why am I thinkking about a tv series where ducks lived in a city, while gators lived in a swamp...and one gator was crashing on a ducks couch cause they're friends. was that another fever dream, like the time I remember seeing a movie about a dude murdering a woman on a public bridge by throwing playing cards into her.
Also Barry's whole "yeah i know the flash come into my dark bedroom to meet him :)" gives me the worst VIBES its like he's saying that wally should get into his van because he has candy. 60s, man...
Man I remember Flash's first appearance in Superman the Animated Series that had Weather Wizard as the villain who was taking advantage of his brother who made the weather control tech.
17:00 mayhaps the Dying Barry-Lightning from Crisis on Infinite Earths split in two through time to make sure both his past self and Wally gain their speed powers.
So theory: After getting the notes from the lab Weather Wizard took as much as he could with him, or destroyed what he could, to prevent others from developing counter technology. The police know what he said because the lab had security cameras which captured him talking to himself.
It really is a good policy, especially when you consider that trusting a sidekick too quickly is the reason the Reverse-Flash exists in at least one continuity.
7:45 Was weather wizards brother ever retconned to be the scientist that summoned the martian manhunter? If not, that's definitely a wasted world building opportunity.
7:52 Me: Are we sure his brother isn't Dr. Erdel? Linkara: "According to his notes, he managed to teleport a martian here?" Me: I WAS JUST THINKING THAT!! XD
Anyone else remembers the fairly oddparents? The weather wizard is throwing hail the size of cannonballs, Timmy's mom was throwing hail the size of minivans.
The best/dumbest part of Wally getting Flash powers is that it happened on what looks to be a perfect;y fine, cloudless day, if the blue sky out the window is any indicator. I mean, come on, at least Barry's accident has the excuse of it happening during a wild thunderstorm late at night (and, yes, I double-checked Linkara's Showcase #4 episode to make sure). Wally's incident literally has no excuse for how it happened, and they didn't even bother to add in a throwaway line about there possibly being a thunderstorm during the day. Like Linkara says, it's literally just the "Will of the Speed Force".
I can tell you exactly who it was killed teen sidekicks as a concept. It was Spider-Man. Once the idea that stand-alone teen characters with no prior connections to an established adult character could be successful got traction, that was pretty much it.
It's interesting to look back to Wally's origin and see how it compares to when it as retold in Mark Waid's run. Poor Wally's had a rough go lately, but here's to better things for him moving forward.
Little did they know when they made that NewsRadio scene that it would be prophetic and Lovitz would eventually attack Andy Dick (entirely deservedly, imo) at the Laugh Factory in L.A.
I like the version where Wally's own love of The Flash and science had him running experiments to recreate the accident that gave Barry his powers. Idk how many comics use it, but I know that's the origin that Young Justice, the show, used for him.
I wonder if he & Stargirl ever teamed up, it'd be cool, since they're from the same hometown. Also, Barry just _happened_ to have a spare costume, that fits exactly him. How Convenient!
"This secret has to be kept forever... until I reveal it to the whole world and let it stay that way for almost 20 years before making a deal with the Spectre to change it for basically no reason"
When I saw The flash spinning his arm, I think of this. Bart Simpsons: Ok, but on my way, I'm gonna be doing this.(spinning his arms)If you get hit, it's your own fault.
Y'know if they had COMBINED the two stories, they could've easily had the lightning that hit Wally be generated by the Weather Wizard. Imagine the alliteration.
WHAM! Weather Wizard's wayward whims whacks Wally West with watts!
Not a bad idea. You also get bonus points for the alliteration.
Love the alliteration
that came to my mind the moment i heard it was a bolt of lightning
Where Wally weighs his weight with Wyatt Wingfoot!
I have nothing to add to this, i just love the alliteration.
“Mr. Flash” sounds like the nickname an unregistered sex-offender gives himself
Honestly, Wally's only friends being a bunch of neighborhood cats would fit pretty well with tone of the rest of his childhood.
Heaven help him if they looked like the cats from last year's Cats movie.
Nobody noticed Linkara called a Bear a gorilla?
Well, Wally’s childhood was fine until it got retconned for more angst because... you cannot be a hero without a tragic backstory, I guess?
@@kayrayouvmir5766 Wally's backstory was expanded on, but it didnt really contradict that much and wasn't really about angst. It added a whole lot of dimension to him and helped make his story MORE hopeful IMO.
@@eliburry-schnepp6012 whether it was a good retcon or not is subjective, but making his dad terrible did contradict his earlier appearances, for example in the NTT, where Wally has nothing but fondness for both of them and we see them (with Wally alone, so no appearances to keep there) be a genuinely happy family
"He was actually a demisexual goose." Don't let him anywhere near Zeus or he won't be for long.
That gave me duckbumps
Was that a reference to the Boy Wonder and Sara Lance?
"Don't eat the yellow snow. The pink snow is okay you can have that."
Too much pink snow is dangerous!
A reference to a Power Rangers scene...that's also accurate at the same time. (Watermelon snow, another name for pink snow, is toxic to humans.)
Wally calling the Flash 'My friend Mr. Flash" is just adowable
Han Solo: "That's not how the Speed Force works..."
The speed force is whatever the writer wants it to be.
@@qwellen7521
It’s whatever the laziest writers wants it to be.
Flash fact: "Barry Allen: Simultaneously a great hero, and a complete utter disaster who causes as much harm as he solves" is the origin of the Flash fandom's refrain of "*Damnit*, Barry!"
Yes but Grant Gustin is adorable so we’ll always forgive him for his messes. Even Season 3.
@@benwasserman8223 just finished season 3. I loved savitar, but when they reveal him to be just an edgy future Barry - it really hurt the rest of the season.
@@daltonwilliams1723 Next two seasons are better. Not as good as Season 1 but also better than S3.
@@benwasserman8223 definitely. Season 4 was a huge improvement and I loved having a non-speedster for a main villain for once.
I consider Season 5 the best. Season 6 is pretty good . . . Until Post-Crisis when the writers decided to yet again take away Barry’s Speed because it’s not like THAT isn’t old by now. Looking forward to Season 7.
"But it is safe to eat the pink snow."
Sadly, no. Watermelon snow is toxic because of the algae that gives it its trademark color.
@@painvillegaming4119
You’re winning me over with that, well done.
"It was the will of the speed-force" is the actual explanation. The speedforce responded to a subconcious desire of Barry's to have a companion.
In his defense, The Flash is probably one of the few heroes in the world I can actually see doing the "I'm narrating what's happening even though it should be over by the time I'm done talking" thing, super speed and all.
I honestly think Wally got his groove back in DC Death Metal: Speed Metal. Wherein he not only got to reunite with the other Flashes, but also gave BMWL the name of "Batman Who Tries Too Hard."
Which is what I call the guy now.
90s Kid would love Dark Nights Metal
Flash: We need a nickname for you?
Wally: How about Speedy?
Flash: Yeah...that ones kinda taken
@@ayaanshah2417 you forgot:
Wally: Hey, What If I call mysefl The Whizz....
Barry: No. No. AND No.
@@ianr.navahuber2195 I wonder if Marvel Comics exists in the DCU
Actually that's a good question: Why is an archery-themed kid hero named "Speedy"?
@@jlev1028 I always thought it was a reference to the bright colours of his costume. If I remember right, robins have a bright red chest, or something like that.
@@jlev1028 Wasn’t “Robin” a reference to Dick Grayson’s circus persona?
Wally and Dick Grayson are my two favorite heroes. They were among the first of the classic sidekicks to ascend and did it well. Both honored their mentors, but forged their own legacy. Even though it was never the intent, you can see how Wally progressed.
He started with the ultimate fanboy dream. He got not only to meet his hero, but become his partner and his hero was pretty much everything he'd hoped. Maybe there was a bit of rose colored glasses. Barry wasn't perfect, but tried really hard and usually succeeded.
Then Wally got sick. The thing he loved most was killing him. He became a bit depressed and cynical, but was still there when he was needed. Then came a triple whammy. He was cured. His mentor died. His powers were vastly reduced. The pressure of filling Barry's shoes along with being only 21 and not really having any job prospects got to him. He became a bit self centered, something exacerbated by coming into a lot of money.
He started off a bit put off at being compared to Barry because he didn't think others thought he measured up and neither did he. Fortunately, he'd formed a good group of friends to help him and his confidence grew. He also began reconnecting with speedsters of the past, present, and future to form a family of sorts. He became a mentor himself. Then he became a husband and father.
Then they started screwing with him.
I seriously cannot believe that Wally got his powers in the EXACT SAME WAY as Barry. XD Somebody was out of ideas that day, weren't they? Still, better stories than Mar-Vell's opening, and it is cute to see Wally so eager to help people -- AND manage to do so without screwing it up accidentally, like I was expecting! Nice when the kid is allowed to be competent.
Wally has always been both my favorite Teen Titan and my favorite Flash. I related to him more than the other Titans because he was the only member of the team to come from a stable two parent home, like I did. When DC let Wally grow up during the 90s, Wally had a lot of interesting character growth becoming comfortable in his place as a legacy hero, successfully carving out his own niche apart from his mentor. Wally rocks.
And golly gee, that artwork for the Weather Wizard story was the cat's meow!
"You see, it's something that has to be a secret forever...between me, and my friend, Mr Flash."
Wally's identity became public knowledge during his tenure as the Flash, before it magically got forgotten.
Specifically, Wally West revealed his identity to the world for 16 to 18 years and 200 issues before he made a deal with the Spectre, who was Hal Jordan at the time, to make sure that everyone will forget that he is the Flash.
I was part of the Anime fan club in school. We had presidents and secretaries and all that. They'd help organize bake sales to raise money for the club so that we could go to conventions the next city over. They'd organize the trips too.
My dad was born n 1960, He still calls people cats. Sorry Lewis, comic is right on that one.
I mean, Wally dressed pretty dorky... He clearly is an early hipster and would be hipster enough to say "cats".
THE NEXT TOP 15 SCREW UPS OF ATOP THE FOURTH WALL
I'm not american, but i grew up watching Make Mine Music from Disney, and there's an entire short telling how the youth of those decades called themselves cats, so i did wondered how much it was correct. Cool.
-Teo
To quote TFS Vegeta on the Marshal telling Mardon's backstory.
'How'd you know about the parts you weren't there for?'
Speed Force
I'm actually a split personality of the weather wizard given flesh by another wizard!
"Should I have playlists for stories in chronological order?"
Me: YES!
"No."
Me: awwwwww...
Yes, I would approve of this
Lets face it, 600-odd episodes in, it'd take freaking forever to do.
I've already done it actually.
@@ProfessorChaos56 can we get a link?
I just started making my own. Eventually we will have all of the clone saga...
16:51 Damn it Zeus! This is why you need to pick up your lighting bolts. You just leave them on a cloud and there going to eventually fall off.
Wally deserves more love
Preaching to the choir.
Seriously, though, Flash's Rogues should just sell their tech and make billions of dollars more than they could ever hope to make with crime. Can you even *imagine* how much money the U.S. military would pay for the cold or mirror gun?
There's a reason there is a trope called "Cut Lex Luthor a check".
You can see why the TV series decided to make a bunch of these guys metahumans instead of being reliant on tech.
Using tech is part of their charm. The fact half the rogyeshave powers Is one of the reasons I do not care for the Flash tv show
I assume it's the same logic as "I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs."
Granted with some of the rogues it develops into the thrill of the crime and fighting flash
Ok with that comment from Wally, now I get the image that his "Flash Fan Club" is just his name for catsitting
One of them is the very cat being protected in "Rise of Arsenal".
...what? Cat's don't live that long...
Now I want an Elseworlds story where all the villains actually do patent their inventions and sell them to make millions, instead of becoming villains. I really wonder what that world would look like.
That would be interesting to see.
This episode... Flash bringing a strange child to his workplace, dousing him in liquids, giving him new clothes, giving him a ring, the child saying that this is as easy for him as it is for the Flash, the 'bear back' at 19:17, Flash having 'a strange feeling but a good one', and Wally having to 'keep a secret'... Let's just say I'm just glad that Wally didn't call Barry 'sempai'
I'm pretty sure the term 'Senpai' wasn't commonly used back when the comic was first released.
@@jonbrewer297 ...
Why do Marvel and DC write stories no one wants?
I can only describe this comic's vibe as, "Golly-gee-shucks!"
14:18 I was in an Anime Club in high school, and we did sort of have reading of the minutes and such, but only for meetings that involved planning on fund raisers and the like. We also operated out of a classroom so we sort of had an office but not really. We did however have a leadership structure... that was normally ignored. There was a leader and co-leader that were supposed to be the main talking heads and lead meetings, but it often boiled down to myself being the resident tall bastard(and one of the only two guys in the club) having to get everyone's attention for the two quiet girls that ran the club to even be heard, and sometimes for me to say what they wanted to because they couldn't really project their voices very well.
Funny story about how I even joined that club, I was a loner in high school, I had no friends and would often spend break times just walking the halls, well one day as I was walking past the classroom where the Anime club was, a rather large lady did a power slide in front of me and looked up at me and asked if I liked Anime, I said yeah, and she jumped up, grabbed me by the arm and dragged me into the Anime club meeting and told me I was now a member of the club. So I was effectively kidnapped into the club.
Wally West: debuts
Dan Didio: *curses in baby*
Even Wally getting superpowers is a stroke of bad luck when you think about it. Dude got hit by a lightning bolt and doused in various chemicals!
Wally West in the comics gets treated like garbage. Wally West in the cartoons gets treated better and offered more respect than the comics. What does that say about DC Comics as a whole?
That Dan Didio was not in charge of the Animated Universe. /s
Ironically, in Young Justice, that greater respect is kinda what got him “killed”. The writers apparently wanted to kill Barry, but because Barry wasn’t a main character, it was decided Wally would be better for storytelling purposes and emotional investment.
@@bgvo4373
So... what a lot of the Wally west fans have been saying.
My boyfriend's got an electrovibrator wand. The only thing it's good for is making it rain.
"I'm gonna' punch a line SO MANY TIMES!" has got to be my favourite line in a long time. Thank you! :)
I really wish Ironheart was Iron Man's sidekick; watching Iron Man try to be a responsible adult is always great
I just wish they also didn’t try to pitch her as the new “Iron Man” because that name isn’t like wasp, green lantern or wolverine where a different gendered character can just slip into it as a permanent replacement. Maybe as a temporary replacement where she’s posing as the original but the name isn’t really something you can retrofit for a new person.
@@Fanatic_Foremem
That's why she got a new name and diffrent status quo
Honestly with the entire Outlaws storyline going on, all the young heroes are probably disinterested in needing adult supervision to do any superheroism. That includes legacy characters and former sidekicks
@@benwasserman8223 Ugh, do _not_ talk to me about Civil War III. It's just a mistake
@@kaicreech7336 Wait, there’s a THIRD one?
DiDio despised Wally, and I bet the JLA cartoon really grinded his gears by making Wally the Flash and not Barry.
JLU was awesome, it's how I got into getting my own comics rather than mooching off my brothers
Fortunately he’s gone and things are getting better for dear old Wallace
@@skyslasher2297 ...Look at Future Slate.
@@eliburry-schnepp6012 *looks it up OH COME ON!!!
They barely mentioned his name. I didn't even realize it was Wally until Batman told everybody.
What's weirder though: Wally having an identical accident to get his powers, or a lightning bolt of a different kind changing his outfit to the more well known Kid Flash costume?
Also, slight disappointment: was hoping the next episode would be on the Doom Patrol.
Same. Them or Mister Miracle.
Edit: Maybe Adam Strange
"Wally, we're lightning rod people. This shit is gonna' come up a lot.
That opens a new question: why did the lightning decide to dress him as Kid Reverse Flash? Seriously, Am I the only one who thinks his costume is more reminiscent of Thawne than Barry?
_"Great Jupiter!"_
Awww, I miss when comics had expressions like this. Back when characters like Wolverine used to say "cripes".
So lightning never strikes in the same place twice except when it needs to creates Flashes.
Iris find out he's the flash 55 issues later. On their wedding night. Oh... Poor Iris!
Ha I get it
You joke, but I imagine that's one of those scenarios where "vibrating at the right frequency" probably comes in handy.
6:21 nah its just people in the silver age just thought 100% faster than we do. How else would they get their ever eternal internal monologues!?
11:41 barry allen, terrible hero, fantastic accidental villain.
wait he can make rainbows? why doesn't he search for lepracaun gold and skittles? you would think a profesional thief would consider that possibilities especially in the DC universe
*universe. Not unicerse, though there is a curse of character deaths!
@@thatonea-hole i didn't notice thanks for pointing out dood
I mean, it wouldn't hurt to fix playlists that are not in Episode-chronological-release order.
Shinta what are you doing here
He references Linkara in a few of his videos.
@@Pikachu2Ash I know but it’s interesting that another reviewer I know is here. hey shinta can you please make a crossover with him
@Odynn MoonFox here his actually channel th-cam.com/users/ShintaReviews
@Odynn MoonFox look up Shinta Reviews. That's his official TH-cam channel.
Get this, they're going to turn Wally into a speed force killing monster in DC's future state event
Man, does DC hate Wally so much now
Let's just be glad that Future State is like Future's End, and not entirely canon to current events.
Doesn't make it better, but still
Yeah...
I'm not planning to read past Williamson's run anytime soon...
Honestly, I think DC just HATES the idea or existence of sidekicks... current/former.
Wait so now their taking plotlines from The CW Flash who killed the speed force just last season...I think it was last season
I think it’s really more that they don’t know what to do with him. The Flash franchise is focused more on Barry nowadays, and they can’t de-age the guy and make him his sidekick again, so they kind of feel that Wally is this extra piece that doesn’t fit anymore.
You know I just realized, sidekicks like Robin and Kid Flash, being created to appeal tot he kids that read their comics, that basically the same as "introducing a kid onto a show to appeal to kids." I guess this proves that it can be done WELL, then again we probably have these to blame for WHY it started in the first place.
Quite insightful.
I personally would love to try it again.
16:07 28:51 I thought Lewis was going to show himself talking to his cats about the Flash.
"We always had cats."
If Flashpoint is the DC Universe equivalent of One More Day, then Wally is sadly the equivalent of Peter and MJ's marriage. Seriously, as Lewis pointed out in his COIE review, Post Crisis lasted for 25 years, Wally was the main Flash for 23 of those years and had 2 of the greatest runs on the Flash (Mark Waid and Geoff John's respectively). It's INSANE to me that DC thought something like HiC would go over well, essentially after they we're PRAISED for bringing Wally back at the start of Rebirth!
" Flashpoint is the DC Universe equivalent of One More Day, then Wally is sadly the equivalent of Peter and MJ's marriage."
Technically the Flash is the equivalent of Spider man : Both heroes are lovable nerds (Barry Allen and Peter Parker) who due to accident with science become fun smartass jokey heroes (Spider man and Wally West), they have a colorfull rogues gallery, they have a enemy with the same powers as them and who knows their secret identity (Reverse Flash and Venom), they both had their girlfriends (Gwen Stacy, Iris West) killed by their worst enemies (Green Goblin, Reverse Flash), they have allies who have the same powers as them (Wally West/Miles Morales, Jesse Quick/Spider Gwen) and they both had adventures involving the multiverse (Flash of Two worlds, Spider verse).
"Wally was the main Flash for 23 of those years and had 2 of the greatest runs on the Flash (Mark Waid and Geoff John's respectively)"
Between the two, Wally also had a good run written by Grant Morrison.
Their hatred for Wally gives them tunnel vision
Wally might have a hard time in the comics, but anyone who's watched the Justice League or Young Justice cartoons will tell you he's awesome.
Especially in 'Flash and Substance'.
"We'll Play Darts.... The Soft Kind....."
@@eamonndeane587 I absolutely adore that scene. A perfect example of what a hero should be. Something a lot of modern comics seem to have forgotten.
Hey, Ladies! I'm a helicopter!
*Faceplants*
I'm... Sorta like a helicopter.
@@jlev1028 Joker being the writer would explain him and Batman stealing the spotlight
I liked how they explained Wally’s origin in the Young Justice cartoon where he simply mentioned that he intentionally replicated the experiment that gave Barry his powers and that’s how he got them.
4:16
It's funny that it mentions "black lightning" in BOLD text because soon they would have a character named BLACK LIGHTNING. Was this planned or a lucky accident of foreshadowing.
17:16 it was the almighty Speed Force’s wish and it will take place. Amen.
That lightning bolt chose you, Wally.
Kinda a missed opportunity when Wally said "the cats back home" not to have one of your pets walk around on screen. Then again I'm sure trying to get one of those guys to intentionally walk into a video shoot isn't too fun to set up. Cats always do the opposite of what you want to do anyway.
It's also a good opportunity to make a Cats (2019) joke.
That's going to be the new The Room. Not so much because it's a poorly made movie that has gained infamy all over the internet, but because it's tracking towards becoming an overused cliche to be referenced.
"Only my speed saved me!" Wouldn't Snowflame feel the same way?
"He gets the bareback..."
What?
"... in his cage."
Oh.
KINKY
Wait, Linkara's actually gonna spend time on the Jackal? Really?
Hold on... didn't the Punisher get introduced during the original Clone Saga too?
I like how the origin got retconned to where Wally West wasn't just a fana of Flash but a teen scientist himself who was interested in the science behind Flash's powers and deliberately recreated the experiment.
And with Iris knowing about his secret, I like how it was retconned that he trusted her enough to tell her long before their wedding because that's way too big a drama bomb to drop on wedding night.
Didn't the Death of Superman adaptation make fun of it?
Wasn't that just something the Young Justice show came up with ? Unless they retconned it in the comics as well, who knows these days, lol.
"Queer Duck" is actually the name of a series. I remember seeing the movie at video rentals back when those existed. The only other character I could name was "Openly Gator."
why am I thinkking about a tv series where ducks lived in a city, while gators lived in a swamp...and one gator was crashing on a ducks couch cause they're friends.
was that another fever dream, like the time I remember seeing a movie about a dude murdering a woman on a public bridge by throwing playing cards into her.
@@realrealwarpet well that actually a show sitting ducks
@@thetruewisegamer I knew it was, i just couldn't remember the name XD
Also Barry's whole "yeah i know the flash come into my dark bedroom to meet him :)" gives me the worst VIBES its like he's saying that wally should get into his van because he has candy. 60s, man...
Ray palmer could be added to the list of heroes with bad things happening to them.
Man I remember Flash's first appearance in Superman the Animated Series that had Weather Wizard as the villain who was taking advantage of his brother who made the weather control tech.
18:27 I actually really like how the Flash costume looks in this shadow color scheme.
That's it, that's the comment.
17:00 mayhaps the Dying Barry-Lightning from Crisis on Infinite Earths split in two through time to make sure both his past self and Wally gain their speed powers.
So theory: After getting the notes from the lab Weather Wizard took as much as he could with him, or destroyed what he could, to prevent others from developing counter technology.
The police know what he said because the lab had security cameras which captured him talking to himself.
It really is a good policy, especially when you consider that trusting a sidekick too quickly is the reason the Reverse-Flash exists in at least one continuity.
7:45 Was weather wizards brother ever retconned to be the scientist that summoned the martian manhunter? If not, that's definitely a wasted world building opportunity.
No. Saul (or Mark) Erdel is the one who summons the Manhunter.
I think we had a SORT of sidekick type dynamic in the MCU with Spiderman and Iron Man, but otherwise yeah it does seem to be a lost art.
7:52 Me: Are we sure his brother isn't Dr. Erdel?
Linkara: "According to his notes, he managed to teleport a martian here?"
Me: I WAS JUST THINKING THAT!!
XD
Anyone else remembers the fairly oddparents? The weather wizard is throwing hail the size of cannonballs, Timmy's mom was throwing hail the size of minivans.
"Barry Allen a great hero and complete disaster" can confirm after reading "The Trial of the Flash!" by Cary Bates!
Wally west is the best flash in all of comics
Maybe Barry is just doing his best impression of a Biblically Accurate angel on the cover.
When was that
not enough eyes, 7/10
Barry: So I invited this kid to my lab, spilled chemical on him, and now he runs really fast..... wait why are you calling the police?
LOL!!!
I’m kinda surprised the Weather Wizard’s first costume didn’t have him wear a green wizard hat with golden stars on it.
Truth.
11:40 to 11:50 insert joke about the CW's Flash here.
Dammit, Barry!
8:52 The Origin of Chocolate Rain!
The best/dumbest part of Wally getting Flash powers is that it happened on what looks to be a perfect;y fine, cloudless day, if the blue sky out the window is any indicator. I mean, come on, at least Barry's accident has the excuse of it happening during a wild thunderstorm late at night (and, yes, I double-checked Linkara's Showcase #4 episode to make sure). Wally's incident literally has no excuse for how it happened, and they didn't even bother to add in a throwaway line about there possibly being a thunderstorm during the day. Like Linkara says, it's literally just the "Will of the Speed Force".
"The Will of the Speed Force"
I am pretty sure the DC Speed Force works nothing like the Star Wars Force.
But Linkara: Too much Pink Snow is Dangerous.
8:41 - This may be your best use of an Archer clip yet.
Are the cats China Cats? There's a new fellow named Speedy who may be interested in being friends...
Only porcelain squirrels, sadly.
Wally West: Dan Didio's most hated character.
And now he's gone, so maybe Sally will get better treatment?
Actually that’s Dick Grayson; seriously, he’s been trying to kill him off since Infinite Crisis.
@@jasonthayer1309 You mean Marie Javins
@Darth_ Madara Jeez! What did the sidekicks did to peeve off Didio?!
He's the embodiment of OK boomer
I can tell you exactly who it was killed teen sidekicks as a concept. It was Spider-Man. Once the idea that stand-alone teen characters with no prior connections to an established adult character could be successful got traction, that was pretty much it.
To be fair, Barry's mom wasn't dead in this continuity. Wally would use his speed to get himself health insurance on day.
"...and some that no weather man has ever heard of!"
IT'S RAINING MEN!!!
1:58- And I've already met Wally West, thanks to the Superman and Justice League animated series.
10:25- But too much pink snow is dangerous.
10:24 I wouldn’t recommend that,
Too much pink energy is dangerous.
Chronological character playlists would actually be really cool...
Talking to cats isn't so bad, unless one of them is a China Cat!
It's interesting to look back to Wally's origin and see how it compares to when it as retold in Mark Waid's run. Poor Wally's had a rough go lately, but here's to better things for him moving forward.
Little did they know when they made that NewsRadio scene that it would be prophetic and Lovitz would eventually attack Andy Dick (entirely deservedly, imo) at the Laugh Factory in L.A.
I like the version where Wally's own love of The Flash and science had him running experiments to recreate the accident that gave Barry his powers. Idk how many comics use it, but I know that's the origin that Young Justice, the show, used for him.
I wonder if he & Stargirl ever teamed up, it'd be cool, since they're from the same hometown. Also, Barry just _happened_ to have a spare costume, that fits exactly him. How Convenient!
Maybe he got the measurements while helping Iris pick up clothes for her nephew.
To be fair, he is fast enough to think about all this in those spans of time
"This secret has to be kept forever... until I reveal it to the whole world and let it stay that way for almost 20 years before making a deal with the Spectre to change it for basically no reason"
Me looking at the title card:
WHIRLWIND POWER ACTIVATE!!
I love wally west he's my all time favorite flash and will always be my flash
When I saw The flash spinning his arm, I think of this.
Bart Simpsons: Ok, but on my way, I'm gonna be doing this.(spinning his arms)If you get hit, it's your own fault.
Weather Wizard's outfit in Superman TAS was a MASSIVE improvement IMO.
My wife also found out why they call me The Flash on our wedding night.
You moved really fast and shriveled up? Sure sounds like a Crisis to me... :p
They got away with something like that with DCAU Wally