A big negative for owners of "old" holders (or buyers of second-hand Jasper stands) is that the old holders required taking the whole frame apart on the side where you wished to either add, remove or reverse one or more holders. Say you wished to reorder your synths in a stand, then you may need to swap longer holders in.. with the old holders you needed to remove all your gear, because the frame needed to be opened up on the left or right side. With the new holders, this (major) annoyance is no more. Here's info from the Jaspers site: "Mounting additional holders without dismantling the stand" Many customers order additional holders to put further devices and keyboards on the Keyboard Stand or Keyboard Rack. Until recently the stand or rack had to be dismantled partly before mounting the holders. That's history
I have this problem on my OnStage stand. I'm about to order this Jaspers. Thanks so much for that info, that is what finalized me buying it.😂 Thank goodness they fixed that issue.
Just set up my first Jasper. With wheels. 6 tiers high. SUPER STURDY and amazing build :) I am pleased with versatility and design. It’s the kind that Bo has but taller :)
i invested in 2 of these a few years ago, and they are great. i actually fashioned some shelves for each level, as i have almost no actual keyboards but lots of desktop gear. some chipboard cut to size, with a small lip of strongly glued wood, means i can place up to 5 things per row, at an ergonomic angle (e.g. one row has a roland tr-606, mfb 502, mfb 522, x0xb0x and a roland mc-307, all sitting comfortably). cost a fair bit to get these to australia at the time, but i have no regrets at all. strong recommendation from me.
Is Jaspers for you? Or do you prefer another keyboard/synth stand? Let us know! If you want to buy one use my affiliate links. I get a small % on each sale and its a great way to support the channel JASPERS stands: www.thomann.de/se/search_dir.html?sw=jaspers+stand&offid=1&affid=623 My Stand (150 cm wide): thmn.to/thoprod/343484?offid=1&affid=623 a SMALL and inexpensive stand: thmn.to/thoprod/443021?offid=1&affid=623 Do note that I highly recommend the ”H” stands (racks) which I showcase in the video over the angled stands.
Ive had a Jasper 6D-145B for some time. My only problem is, while it has 6 tiers, I only have three large keyboards which take up a tier by themselves. Jasper's holders are a ridiculous price. It would cost half a grand to get the holders I need for all my smaller gear! Better to just get some plexiglass and reinforce it with with a couple long pieces of wood.
Hi there! I know this is an "old" video, but I am looking at these stands more and more seriously as a 1-stop shop for all of my synths. Do you know if it's possible to mount the arms "backwards" in order to allow two people to play simultaneously face to face? Because that would be an amazing solution for my weirdly shaped home studio.
This is an excellent video. Thanks. I hadn’t considered the style you have, but I actually really like the idea of being able to move it back and forward.
Thank you for this review Bo. It’s refreshing to see a vid on ergonomics! I just got my Jaspers stand last week (five keyboard A-frame) and so far it’s rock solid and a really important addition to my studio! 👌
I like Jaspers stands and I appreciate that you made this detailed video about your version. It is a long time now since I started to think about switching the type of stand for better utilisation of the used space. Now - after watching your video I am convinced to go for your version as you perfectly pointed out the benefit. Like always very good video`s for the gear. Go ahead like this and thanks :o)
Same, I have an A-frame stand and a level, got all my gear level/not wobbly on the first try. Hoping I have room when I move in a bit to add another to my setup.
This is important because it might be level relative to itself, but if your floor is slightly slanted - as many basements are - you could get your keyboard into place and still find it's subtly lopsided. I had to compensate with my stand a little bit.
That was fun - when I saw the title of your video, I immediately thought "Is he going to talk about Jaspers?" From what I know, there doesn't seem to be a real alternative to them for "lots of synths and permanent installment". I personally have two of the smaller ones (-120 4- and 5-tier) and...well, I don't really notice them. Which is a good thing for a stand in my book.
Reporting 3 months later, i've got a fully kitted out jaspers system, i've got a ton of stuff attached to it, it looks absolutely insane, having everything in one place is amazing, the versatility is great. I ordered way more toobs than i needed, some of them i cut up, arranged stuff in some unintended ways and expanded it a bit. it really is limitless, I even have my commodore 64 and a display all set up with the rack, and yeah. wow. Never knew about this rack system, thanks for the video !!!
Great informative video, and super-nicely shot and narrated! The stands are high quality. I have one of the smaller ones here. I'd wish for an option that can be set up "u" shaped (2 arms protuding to the left and right towards you to place smaller synths or groove boxes on, so you can place a workstation or master keyboard in the middle and quickly access the smaller synths by leaning over).
One possible tip...for anyone with those plastic style wheels that you show on the video (which in my experience don't roll as well and can scratch the floor under load)...you can find awesome smoother rolling rollerblade style wheels that will swap out for those if you search for office chair replacement wheels.
Thanks for the review Bo. My new studio addition will be ready in about a month and I have been looking for a suitable rack(s) for my setup. Your video appearance was perfect timing!!
I actually asked Jonas from Estuera what stand he used for his keyboards, since he made this kinda wild L-shaped rack with his, and that was the first time I heard about Jaspers. Supremely interesting stuff, good to see your experience with it!
@@MusicGearNuts Mine is a little diy. I used the Standtastic keyboard brackets. On the wall I used vertically mounted metal U struts. It’s very much like Standtastic’s system.
Thanks this is super helpful im browsing thomann and measuring all my gear to make sure i get all accessories i need. This helps me visualize before buying What are those panels with dots behind your stand is there a hidden message in there?
A bit late, but here are my experiences: - Custom sizes: Mine are made to fit on two 60x60 19" cabinets. - Alignment of holders can be hard: Tightening the screws can put them out of alignment again. - Take your gear off before you adjust a tier (three boutiques took a dive when the tier rotated. I had to take everything out to replace floorboards and damage to the Rolands). - Several sizes of holders to get a perfect fit. - You can built it just as you want it: Think about this in advance, it is not cheap!
Just bought mine using your link (basically same stand you have, but with the 6U rack mount addition). Thanks for the review, anxious to get it set up!
Nice overview, cheers! Currently in the middle of a house move and basically already made up my mind about getting a Jaspers, there are just sooo many options to chose from, and that's even before adding add-ons! hahaha
@@BoBeats Leaning towards the rack version since then I know it'll take up 50cm between my desk and the wall. The stand COULD potentially save me a little space, but it would be a gamble since my desk also has A-style legs and it may crash underneath. Due to Brexshit, I don't think that I can use your affiliated links unless Thomann gets something in place to handle VAT and import duties etc. :-( Will do another check before ordering though!
I am finally having a dedicated studio space built and was looking at these stands and particularly with a view to get as many synths, devices into a quite tight space so this is really useful, thank you!
I actually ordered a Jaspers 4R-150 B stand for my 6 synths and lfo expander module since January this year, from Thomann as well. A great stand to be sure. You are right about the rubber squares, they do come off a bit. Fortunately these adhesives are cheap and replaceable. And you also are definitely right about needing a 2nd person to make the gear installation phase of assemblage easier. I had to set mine up alone, and yeah. It was not easy! I actually just got finished readjusting the angle on the tiers because a new synth I just got, once placed, blocked the viewscreen of another synth below, and now all viewscreens are viewable again. The 4R-150 B does not [to my knowledge] allow for depth adjustment of tiers, which in retrospect I now realize might have been helpful for me, however, its not a major drawback for my particular setup that I cannot live with.
After hunting around the internet and through various stores etc. I could not find ANY comparable stand systems that were as versatile and easy to tailor to specific needs. Thomann was great in getting my Jaspers stand to me here in Canada and I am thrilled with it. I did a lot of measuring before ordering and that was well worth doing. I got the 4D-145B and it fits my room and my gear perfectly. Well, at least until the next round of GAS strikes and then I'll have to get creative again!
Great video! I wonder if the diameter of the pipes are the same as those used in e-drum stands and/or lighting stands/ trusses? If so, that could open up the possibility for additional (maybe cheaper) add-ons. Also, when adjusting the row height of the different tiers, are there any sort of guidemarks or lines on the vertical pipes to make it easier to ensure your left and right side is aligned to the same height? That's something I've always wanted on my e-drum stand, versus having to break out a tape measure any time you need to adjust the height.
Bo! Love your stuff. I have a minilogue at home, and over time I have noticed that the keys have become somewhat yellowish. Do you know of a good cleaning method for such plastic keys?
Jaspers need to start distributing in the USA. Ultimate Support use to sell this type of structured pieces for equipment stands. I've been collecting for years and the options are endless. The more you have, the more you can configure and assemble like Legos or Tinkertoys. Thanks Mr. BoBeats. (Equipment stands while not very exciting and one of the most unrated studio accessory). If budget was not a concern, I get enough Gilbraltar pipe and components to hold my 30 keyboard and endless groove box collection.
Bo, do you have a preference for a specific brand of cable when using multiple keys/synths ? Or in general a cable you like for the synths in your studio? Thanks
Got that same Jaspers 4 tier but with the 12u rack attachment down below, super handy and absolutely love the build. Def. worth the coin to get it over to the states.
looking at the on-stage 3 tier brought me here and this brand has the exact size I wanted AND it is made in Germany, and not China. Thanks for sharing! gonna grab one once i figure out the size I need.
I've noticed some of the Jaspers stands have casters on them. Do you know if it is possible to attach casters to the stand you have in this video? I'm likely going to get this exact stand, and if i could put it on wheels, it'd be the best stand in the world!
Good stand. I have 2 of them. But you need a level in order to adjust the arms. And the other negative is that the caged ends can restrict you from putting a wider synth it the other advantage you can place multiple items on the same tier buses of the cross bar. Good video.
These are exactly like an updated version of the older 80s Ultimate Support stands. I have many parts from one of those and they fit perfectly. There are some improvements but it’s exactly the same stuff. I ordered the Jaspers stuff and if I didn’t have so much experience with the Ultimate Support ones it would have taken a while to assemble. Instructions was basically a small laminated card. They make a rack component which I bought( as pictured in the vid) and that I don’t like as much. I used the older U.S ones I had in a box and they worked better.
Hey Bo, is yours the 120 cm stand or the 150? Also... are there grooves of some kind on the support bars to stop the arms holding the synths from sagging down over time? My current stand sags slowly and I want to make sure this one doesn't if im going spend all this money. Thanks homie.
Mine is the 150. Yes theres a locking mechanism that is suppose to help hold up the synths over time. I didnt showcase it as I actually had not realised it but Jaspers reached out and told me 😅👍👍👍
great thanks for this, State Azure lead me here, been thinking about this for years lol, these look ideal for the retro synth collection and various things :)
How low is the bottom tier on your stand? I'm trying to figure out this so I can sit and play my biggest keyboard with a comfortable height from my knees. The shipping is pretty expensive from Germany to the US so I'm trying to determine if it's worth purchasing such an expensive piece of gear for my 4 keyboards and effects pedalboard.
I'm using Jaspers, just the 3 tier A-Frame with lots of extra arms. Wish I had gone for the one you are using but it does me good since I can hold my Mackie 1604 on there with no issues!
I would like to see a stamped "V" indent/notch along the horizontal tubes like other A frames have (see the On-Stage ones) this would make the shelf arms self align and not just rely on friction of the plastic clamp to keep the shelf arms in place but an actual mechanical interference. I would also like to see 3 holes on the arms to offer different arm offset positions. I've held a Juno 60 at an angle with such a stand on the top tier. I do like the array of parts on sale and a 2 tier A-Frame, but I feel the mechanical robustness could be improved. Having said that - a lot of people seem to hanging very expensive synths on them...
I just really need to get a bunch of those arms. This is just electronic drum rack, but the support arms are expensive and hard to come by. I built my stand out of used drum rack parts off ebay. If youre on a super tight budget you can also use 1.5" off road light rollbar mounts for trucks, and make your own arms out of aluminum 90° flat stock and the little aluminum pillars used for R/C drone landing pads.
oh man this really makes me wish I had the spare cash for one of these.... or maybe even two. One for synths, one for guitar amps, with the lil rack at the bottom for patchbay & fx.
Dangit, I just bought a Jaspers stand but i missed the bit you mentioned at 6:23 about keyboards with weird angled bottoms. I was gonna put my MS-20 on the top tier, but now i don't think i can. Whoops!
1:46 great advice here. Jaspers makes square frames and “A” frames I was looking at A frames until I realized you can adjust depth on square model. Gonna spend more than I thought but important to get it right the first time (esp from Thomann to US shipping) Edit: and he said that around 3:58 woops
Thanks for the video! To be honest - I'm not a keyboarder / pianist. But I plan to build some kind of "rack" or "stand" where I can put my keyboard (yes, sometimes handier to use keys than pulling out a bass for just checking a bass line against a video ;-) ) and the other stuff like my Maschine controller, fader controller, maybe notebook / screen, computer keyboard or effect boards (for bass / guitars) ... so - this system seems quite flexible. Got nice ideas from this video. Thanks a lot for sharing this! Liked! Stefan
it is the best. there are natural limitations to placing keyboards economically, one will always be out of reach or too low or too high, Jaspers is offering a lot of possibilities with great quality. Only a custom solution can beat this. but could you aafford it after that huge eurorack case? ;-)
I have no experience with synth stands. I just bought a Jaspers synth stand with 6 levels. I wonder if you need to attach the synths with, for example, double-sided tape (some of them are very very strong) or if you can just lay them down? You don't want any synth to fall down because those are expensive things. Sometimes I've seen pictures on the internet where it seems like you have a very steep angle. I don't understand how they stay without falling down. Korg Wavestate also have a angle at the front so it can slide off.
Yes certain synths will slide off. Some Korg synths cant be kept at an angle. No magic tricks tho, you just have to be a bit careful and feel wether it rests nicely on the arms.
that aluminum tube and connector system is something you can just buy on it's own, I've seen it used in other applications, where does it come from, I've searched all over for it? then all you need is the special fixtures for the keyboards. shipping costs to the US are waay too much.
Can this hold 3 full size 88 key? How’s the weight capacity? From Top to Bottom T4: Virus TI + MicroKorg (lightweight) T3: Korg M3 88 (medium weight) T2: Korg SV-1 88 (heavier) T1: Yamaha Motif XF 88 (heaviest)
I have been saving my money since this video first came out and I have finally managed to get my Jaspers stand! The thing I did not anticipate properly was getting the synths at the top tiers powered up. My power cables are far too short! I also don't want any cables on the ground to facilitate moving the stand (on wheels) in order to clean behind there regularly. Any tips for this? Right now I'm thinking velcro strapping some power bars to the stand itself in order to reduce the cable length needed to power the synths.
Hey, I've got a few and there's a few things I'm looking for because I've run into a few problems with several in the past. Mainly, *cough cough korg* the #1 problem I run into when setting up a great synth setup is having to rearrange an entire setup because the weird angles on some gear. (Both my prologue and wavestation have this problem the worst)
the biggest problem is cabling power supplys for all devices.. f.e 4 synths, 3 kenton midi boxes, Maschine+, Maschine Jam, Octatrack, a drummaschine, a dj mixer, ipad, a/d converters, screen monitor, macmini, 2 usb hubs, i really go crazy with all these power cables, so a jasper rack will get rid of this problem with.actually 6 or 7 6-way powerstrips and do not know where to put them. and finally the 2 Genelec Audio Monitors and lighting and finally the audio and midi cabling for all theses boxex.
Use a bubble (spirit) level to align the holders prior to setting a synth. Assuming the stand itself is relatively level, then the holders can be adjusted and tightened to maintain that levelness. Now, set your synth on top!
@@BoBeats It works well. I actually have a long one at 48" (122cm) that I used to go across the widest-spaced holders, and it worked well to align the two sets of holders to the same position/angle across the entire horizontal tube. However, I don't know if yours does it or not, but when I fully clamp down the holder using the top bolt, the actual holder bar lifts about 0.25" (0.6cm). I found this to be a source of frustration.
I’ve always wanted a Jaspers but I live in Japan and they don’t seem to be available here. I suppose I could always pay import fees but they’re already on the pricy side. Maybe someday.
Outrageous shipping cost to the US. For those of us immersed in synths, there is one constant - change. Since the late ‘80’s I have bought and sold my gear. I was excited to fine Jaspers because I thought I could get some order to my rig. And, at first I did. But things change. For instance, when I added an Integra-7 to my studio, i wanted to buy an iPad holder. The iPad is $116. The total cost is $179.04. Some items cost less than the shipping. Thromann will ship UPS Express only. I asked. Thromann understands gear. They don’t understand musicians. Plan out as many eventualities as you can on what may be your only purchase. Is my 170-4-150 good. Yeah. So far I refuse to buy anything else from them. For stand alone keyboard stands, I like Konig & Meyer. They have a good presence in the US (B&H for one) and the gear is simple and well built. I have an Omega 18810 stand for my Pro 3 SE and it is sweet. I bought a 18811 stacker off Amazon for $117 shipped. I haven’t gotten it yet, but i expect it will be as good as the Omega. As far as setting up a synth, it’s easy. Get the tube so it’s snug. put the arms on it. Take a level and level one arm, then the other. Tighten the arms (remember the arms will move a little when you do). Measure the distance between them before you set the arms so you have the correct width under the keyboard. When both of them are level, spin the tube until you get the correct angle. Tighten the tube. BTW, a small cordless drill with a hex bit is not necessary, but it really helps. Get one with a clutch.
I have the big angled 6 tier stand and it’s awesome. However, they don’t have a distributor in Canada, so they’re really tough to get. I was lucky to find a used one. Jaspers’ web site doesn’t accept visa; only PayPal.
You're spot on with your review. Jaspers are great stands. I have a 4 tier 'V' stand and it's pretty wide. I have a MODX8 on the bottom and various other synths dotted around it. If you plan carefully what you put where and angle appropriately then you get a LOT of usable space. It's very versatile and endlessly upgradable. Allow yourself plenty of time to get the holders spaced and aligned to eliminate any wobbles and, yes, those sticky pads can be a bit annoying. :) Here's my tip: I've cable tied various lengths of black plastic downpipe to the back of the rack, this has allowed me to thread cables around and it keeps the back of the stand looking very clean and tidy.
For my fellow Americans, be prepared to be disappointed about the availability of Jasper in USA :(. Quite expensive to ship overseas, especially atm. I’m entirely sure, if I had the money, these would be entirely worth it.
@@BoBeats when you first mentioned doing this video a few months ago, I looked into them because I’ve recently found a good deal on an old JX-8P ive brought back from the dead and I’m running out of table space. Prices for shipping is often quoted at around $40, but is often adjusted to between $100 and $200 after order. It makes sense, the shipment would I assume be heavy and bulky.
My only problem is: I would feel some pressure to fill those stands up - it would give me advanced GAS ;) But seriously: has anybody some experience with mounting Eurorack cases in this stand? Would that make sense?
It is absolutely possible to use with smaller cases. It depends on the case, and which size holders you get. A 60Cm holder could take quite a large case. Just dont angle it too much or it might topple over
Thanks, sort of had a feeling it wouldn’t be 100% reliable. It seems like it’ll shake a lot. Especially when getting too expressive on the keys. Luckily I found a b-stock Standtastic 103KSB 60. Each frame holds 70lb, decided to go for it!
Love it, but nothing like this is available in North America :( no local Jasper distributor. And shipping from Europe would make this much more expensive.
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A big negative for owners of "old" holders (or buyers of second-hand Jasper stands) is that the old holders required taking the whole frame apart on the side where you wished to either add, remove or reverse one or more holders. Say you wished to reorder your synths in a stand, then you may need to swap longer holders in.. with the old holders you needed to remove all your gear, because the frame needed to be opened up on the left or right side. With the new holders, this (major) annoyance is no more. Here's info from the Jaspers site: "Mounting additional holders without dismantling the stand" Many customers order additional holders to put further devices and keyboards on the Keyboard Stand or Keyboard Rack. Until recently the stand or rack had to be dismantled partly before mounting the holders. That's history
I have this problem on my OnStage stand. I'm about to order this Jaspers. Thanks so much for that info, that is what finalized me buying it.😂 Thank goodness they fixed that issue.
Just set up my first Jasper. With wheels. 6 tiers high. SUPER STURDY and amazing build :) I am pleased with versatility and design. It’s the kind that Bo has but taller :)
i invested in 2 of these a few years ago, and they are great. i actually fashioned some shelves for each level, as i have almost no actual keyboards but lots of desktop gear. some chipboard cut to size, with a small lip of strongly glued wood, means i can place up to 5 things per row, at an ergonomic angle (e.g. one row has a roland tr-606, mfb 502, mfb 522, x0xb0x and a roland mc-307, all sitting comfortably). cost a fair bit to get these to australia at the time, but i have no regrets at all. strong recommendation from me.
shelves is what i want to gowith as well. I found it strange that it isn't an option from Jaspers as well
Is Jaspers for you? Or do you prefer another keyboard/synth stand? Let us know!
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Do note that I highly recommend the ”H” stands (racks) which I showcase in the video over the angled stands.
Ive had a Jasper 6D-145B for some time. My only problem is, while it has 6 tiers, I only have three large keyboards which take up a tier by themselves. Jasper's holders are a ridiculous price. It would cost half a grand to get the holders I need for all my smaller gear! Better to just get some plexiglass and reinforce it with with a couple long pieces of wood.
Hey @BoBeats what's that intro and outro song you're playing in your video? I heard in my friend's Spotify but I don't know what it is.
Thanks for the introduction to a stand. I've been thinking about getting a stand once I get a synth or workstation type keyboard from Roland
Ahmad Jamal - I Love Music sampled and sounds like Nas - The World Is Yours instrumental
Hi there! I know this is an "old" video, but I am looking at these stands more and more seriously as a 1-stop shop for all of my synths. Do you know if it's possible to mount the arms "backwards" in order to allow two people to play simultaneously face to face? Because that would be an amazing solution for my weirdly shaped home studio.
This is an excellent video. Thanks. I hadn’t considered the style you have, but I actually really like the idea of being able to move it back and forward.
Thank you for this review Bo. It’s refreshing to see a vid on ergonomics! I just got my Jaspers stand last week (five keyboard A-frame) and so far it’s rock solid and a really important addition to my studio! 👌
I like Jaspers stands and I appreciate that you made this detailed video about your version. It is a long time now since I started to think about switching the type of stand for better utilisation of the used space. Now - after watching your video I am convinced to go for your version as you perfectly pointed out the benefit. Like always very good video`s for the gear. Go ahead like this and thanks :o)
I've got an A-frame stand, very easy to set up, even on your own.
Tip: Use a spirit level to get your holders straight.
That's exactly what I do! I've got a couple of levels including one that's long enough to cover the widest spacing between holders.
Same, I have an A-frame stand and a level, got all my gear level/not wobbly on the first try. Hoping I have room when I move in a bit to add another to my setup.
This is important because it might be level relative to itself, but if your floor is slightly slanted - as many basements are - you could get your keyboard into place and still find it's subtly lopsided. I had to compensate with my stand a little bit.
That was fun - when I saw the title of your video, I immediately thought "Is he going to talk about Jaspers?" From what I know, there doesn't seem to be a real alternative to them for "lots of synths and permanent installment". I personally have two of the smaller ones (-120 4- and 5-tier) and...well, I don't really notice them. Which is a good thing for a stand in my book.
Reporting 3 months later, i've got a fully kitted out jaspers system, i've got a ton of stuff attached to it, it looks absolutely insane, having everything in one place is amazing, the versatility is great. I ordered way more toobs than i needed, some of them i cut up, arranged stuff in some unintended ways and expanded it a bit. it really is limitless, I even have my commodore 64 and a display all set up with the rack, and yeah. wow. Never knew about this rack system, thanks for the video !!!
Thanks for letting me know and I hope you continue to follow the channel!!
Love the design of this synth rack, can definitely see how it would be useful for stacking several synthesisers within a small space easier.
Great informative video, and super-nicely shot and narrated! The stands are high quality. I have one of the smaller ones here. I'd wish for an option that can be set up "u" shaped (2 arms protuding to the left and right towards you to place smaller synths or groove boxes on, so you can place a workstation or master keyboard in the middle and quickly access the smaller synths by leaning over).
Thanks Floyd
One possible tip...for anyone with those plastic style wheels that you show on the video (which in my experience don't roll as well and can scratch the floor under load)...you can find awesome smoother rolling rollerblade style wheels that will swap out for those if you search for office chair replacement wheels.
I second this, that is the first thing I do with any items with those types of plastic wheels. Even my office chair is on rollerblade wheels.
I use Jaspers stands and love them! They're well-made and sturdy.
Thanks for the review Bo. My new studio addition will be ready in about a month and I have been looking for a suitable rack(s) for my setup. Your video appearance was perfect timing!!
I actually asked Jonas from Estuera what stand he used for his keyboards, since he made this kinda wild L-shaped rack with his, and that was the first time I heard about Jaspers. Supremely interesting stuff, good to see your experience with it!
I love these stands. I have an 80s Ultimate A frame I used to use live (yikes) and in my studio. Now I’m using a wall mount system in my studio.
which wall mount system?
@@MusicGearNuts Mine is a little diy. I used the Standtastic keyboard brackets. On the wall I used vertically mounted metal U struts. It’s very much like Standtastic’s system.
Thanks this is super helpful im browsing thomann and measuring all my gear to make sure i get all accessories i need. This helps me visualize before buying
What are those panels with dots behind your stand is there a hidden message in there?
A bit late, but here are my experiences:
- Custom sizes: Mine are made to fit on two 60x60 19" cabinets.
- Alignment of holders can be hard: Tightening the screws can put them out of alignment again.
- Take your gear off before you adjust a tier (three boutiques took a dive when the tier rotated. I had to take everything out to replace floorboards and damage to the Rolands).
- Several sizes of holders to get a perfect fit.
- You can built it just as you want it: Think about this in advance, it is not cheap!
Just bought mine using your link (basically same stand you have, but with the 6U rack mount addition). Thanks for the review, anxious to get it set up!
Nice overview, cheers!
Currently in the middle of a house move and basically already made up my mind about getting a Jaspers, there are just sooo many options to chose from, and that's even before adding add-ons! hahaha
Make sure to consider wether an angled or rack variant (like the one i got) is best. I prefer the rack for reasons stated in the vid
@@BoBeats Leaning towards the rack version since then I know it'll take up 50cm between my desk and the wall. The stand COULD potentially save me a little space, but it would be a gamble since my desk also has A-style legs and it may crash underneath. Due to Brexshit, I don't think that I can use your affiliated links unless Thomann gets something in place to handle VAT and import duties etc. :-(
Will do another check before ordering though!
I am finally having a dedicated studio space built and was looking at these stands and particularly with a view to get as many synths, devices into a quite tight space so this is really useful, thank you!
I actually ordered a Jaspers 4R-150 B stand for my 6 synths and lfo expander module since January this year, from Thomann as well. A great stand to be sure.
You are right about the rubber squares, they do come off a bit. Fortunately these adhesives are cheap and replaceable.
And you also are definitely right about needing a 2nd person to make the gear installation phase of assemblage easier. I had to set mine up alone, and yeah. It was not easy!
I actually just got finished readjusting the angle on the tiers because a new synth I just got, once placed, blocked the viewscreen of another synth below, and now all viewscreens are viewable again.
The 4R-150 B does not [to my knowledge] allow for depth adjustment of tiers, which in retrospect I now realize might have been helpful for me, however, its not a major drawback for my particular setup that I cannot live with.
Literally the topic I was going on the internet to look up.
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Approaching the point of needing additional racks for the first time, this video might have provided the solution 👍👍
After hunting around the internet and through various stores etc. I could not find ANY comparable stand systems that were as versatile and easy to tailor to specific needs. Thomann was great in getting my Jaspers stand to me here in Canada and I am thrilled with it. I did a lot of measuring before ordering and that was well worth doing. I got the 4D-145B and it fits my room and my gear perfectly. Well, at least until the next round of GAS strikes and then I'll have to get creative again!
Again Bo has what I am looking for. 😃 The studio needs a great 3 tier stand and there you are! Thank you Bo Beats!
Great video! I wonder if the diameter of the pipes are the same as those used in e-drum stands and/or lighting stands/ trusses? If so, that could open up the possibility for additional (maybe cheaper) add-ons. Also, when adjusting the row height of the different tiers, are there any sort of guidemarks or lines on the vertical pipes to make it easier to ensure your left and right side is aligned to the same height? That's something I've always wanted on my e-drum stand, versus having to break out a tape measure any time you need to adjust the height.
Bo! Love your stuff. I have a minilogue at home, and over time I have noticed that the keys have become somewhat yellowish. Do you know of a good cleaning method for such plastic keys?
I have noticed this yes (it goes for many synths) but I do not know how to clean it
@@BoBeats I see, thank you for your reply!
Jaspers need to start distributing in the USA. Ultimate Support use to sell this type of structured pieces for equipment stands. I've been collecting for years and the options are endless. The more you have, the more you can configure and assemble like Legos or Tinkertoys. Thanks Mr. BoBeats. (Equipment stands while not very exciting and one of the most unrated studio accessory). If budget was not a concern, I get enough Gilbraltar pipe and components to hold my 30 keyboard and endless groove box collection.
This is where my little hand held battery power screwdriver is a lifesaver.
Thanks so much for the videos! I got a korg minilogue because of your videos, and I love it
Bo, do you have a preference for a specific brand of cable when using multiple keys/synths ? Or in general a cable you like for
the synths in your studio? Thanks
Great video. Thank you! So many to choose from. They have the ones with wheels too. Thanks again Bo! 👏🏻
Got that same Jaspers 4 tier but with the 12u rack attachment down below, super handy and absolutely love the build. Def. worth the coin to get it over to the states.
Thank you for this video. I have a A frame stand and was going to buy another one as I need it, however your stand looks perfect.
looking at the on-stage 3 tier brought me here and this brand has the exact size I wanted AND it is made in Germany, and not China. Thanks for sharing! gonna grab one once i figure out the size I need.
I've noticed some of the Jaspers stands have casters on them. Do you know if it is possible to attach casters to the stand you have in this video? I'm likely going to get this exact stand, and if i could put it on wheels, it'd be the best stand in the world!
Good stand. I have 2 of them. But you need a level in order to adjust the arms. And the other negative is that the caged ends can restrict you from putting a wider synth it the other advantage you can place multiple items on the same tier buses of the cross bar. Good video.
I love my jaspers stand. Four tier, completely customizable.
Use carton box of your gear, styropor or just a light wodden plank, if there is no friend arround you to adjust angle.
ordered this very rack from Thomann based on our review. Hello from Australia.
These are exactly like an updated version of the older 80s Ultimate Support stands. I have many parts from one of those and they fit perfectly. There are some improvements but it’s exactly the same stuff.
I ordered the Jaspers stuff and if I didn’t have so much experience with the Ultimate Support ones it would have taken a while to assemble. Instructions was basically a small laminated card.
They make a rack component which I bought( as pictured in the vid) and that I don’t like as much. I used the older U.S ones I had in a box and they worked better.
Hey Bo, is yours the 120 cm stand or the 150? Also... are there grooves of some kind on the support bars to stop the arms holding the synths from sagging down over time? My current stand sags slowly and I want to make sure this one doesn't if im going spend all this money. Thanks homie.
Mine is the 150. Yes theres a locking mechanism that is suppose to help hold up the synths over time. I didnt showcase it as I actually had not realised it but Jaspers reached out and told me 😅👍👍👍
I have the Jaspers 4D-145B with some extra Holders 40B and 30B. Very useful, you can put lots of stuff in it.
I purchased the same stand as you a couple of months ago. It's a game changer! There is not another synth rack system that compares to it.
Very nice kit. Will be considering adding one.
Bought one from Thomann since no stores here in the USA carry this brand. Needed a way to keep several keyboards together in one spot.
great thanks for this, State Azure lead me here, been thinking about this for years lol, these look ideal for the retro synth collection and various things :)
Glad I found you tonight, just what I was looking for - 🎹 thank you for your video and the time to make it -
Jim - Arkansas - USA 🗽
How low is the bottom tier on your stand? I'm trying to figure out this so I can sit and play my biggest keyboard with a comfortable height from my knees. The shipping is pretty expensive from Germany to the US so I'm trying to determine if it's worth purchasing such an expensive piece of gear for my 4 keyboards and effects pedalboard.
Damn that was so detailed and useful, thank you!
I'm using Jaspers, just the 3 tier A-Frame with lots of extra arms. Wish I had gone for the one you are using but it does me good since I can hold my Mackie 1604 on there with no issues!
I would like to see a stamped "V" indent/notch along the horizontal tubes like other A frames have (see the On-Stage ones) this would make the shelf arms self align and not just rely on friction of the plastic clamp to keep the shelf arms in place but an actual mechanical interference. I would also like to see 3 holes on the arms to offer different arm offset positions. I've held a Juno 60 at an angle with such a stand on the top tier. I do like the array of parts on sale and a 2 tier A-Frame, but I feel the mechanical robustness could be improved. Having said that - a lot of people seem to hanging very expensive synths on them...
I think it’s a really good stand. I dont have but... I’m considering buying one of those Jaspers. Thanks for this review ☺️ !
Excellent review, very helpful thank you
I just really need to get a bunch of those arms. This is just electronic drum rack, but the support arms are expensive and hard to come by. I built my stand out of used drum rack parts off ebay.
If youre on a super tight budget you can also use 1.5" off road light rollbar mounts for trucks, and make your own arms out of aluminum 90° flat stock and the little aluminum pillars used for R/C drone landing pads.
oh man this really makes me wish I had the spare cash for one of these.... or maybe even two. One for synths, one for guitar amps, with the lil rack at the bottom for patchbay & fx.
Dangit, I just bought a Jaspers stand but i missed the bit you mentioned at 6:23 about keyboards with weird angled bottoms. I was gonna put my MS-20 on the top tier, but now i don't think i can. Whoops!
1:46 great advice here. Jaspers makes square frames and “A” frames
I was looking at A frames until I realized you can adjust depth on square model. Gonna spend more than I thought but important to get it right the first time (esp from Thomann to US shipping)
Edit: and he said that around 3:58 woops
Thanks for the video! To be honest - I'm not a keyboarder / pianist. But I plan to build some kind of "rack" or "stand" where I can put my keyboard (yes, sometimes handier to use keys than pulling out a bass for just checking a bass line against a video ;-) ) and the other stuff like my Maschine controller, fader controller, maybe notebook / screen, computer keyboard or effect boards (for bass / guitars) ... so - this system seems quite flexible. Got nice ideas from this video. Thanks a lot for sharing this! Liked! Stefan
it is the best. there are natural limitations to placing keyboards economically, one will always be out of reach or too low or too high, Jaspers is offering a lot of possibilities with great quality. Only a custom solution can beat this. but could you aafford it after that huge eurorack case? ;-)
I have no experience with synth stands. I just bought a Jaspers synth stand with 6 levels. I wonder if you need to attach the synths with, for example, double-sided tape (some of them are very very strong) or if you can just lay them down? You don't want any synth to fall down because those are expensive things. Sometimes I've seen pictures on the internet where it seems like you have a very steep angle. I don't understand how they stay without falling down. Korg Wavestate also have a angle at the front so it can slide off.
Yes certain synths will slide off. Some Korg synths cant be kept at an angle. No magic tricks tho, you just have to be a bit careful and feel wether it rests nicely on the arms.
Great walkthrough, really appreciated!
that aluminum tube and connector system is something you can just buy on it's own, I've seen it used in other applications, where does it come from, I've searched all over for it?
then all you need is the special fixtures for the keyboards. shipping costs to the US are waay too much.
I have two Jaspers 2D-105B - very happy with them.
Argh I just bought 2 hours ago a jaspers stand and you are explaining why the rack is better ( depth) .... cool video thought
Can this hold 3 full size 88 key? How’s the weight capacity?
From Top to Bottom
T4: Virus TI + MicroKorg (lightweight)
T3: Korg M3 88 (medium weight)
T2: Korg SV-1 88 (heavier)
T1: Yamaha Motif XF 88 (heaviest)
Either Jaspers or some kind of flat surface against the wall, I try to decide.
I have been saving my money since this video first came out and I have finally managed to get my Jaspers stand!
The thing I did not anticipate properly was getting the synths at the top tiers powered up. My power cables are far too short! I also don't want any cables on the ground to facilitate moving the stand (on wheels) in order to clean behind there regularly. Any tips for this?
Right now I'm thinking velcro strapping some power bars to the stand itself in order to reduce the cable length needed to power the synths.
Thats a good point! It is indeed an issue!
Would really like to switch from a flat desk to a multi-tier stand. It not only fits more in the same space, but also makes it easier to reach!
Hey, I've got a few and there's a few things I'm looking for because I've run into a few problems with several in the past. Mainly, *cough cough korg* the #1 problem I run into when setting up a great synth setup is having to rearrange an entire setup because the weird angles on some gear. (Both my prologue and wavestation have this problem the worst)
the biggest problem is cabling power supplys for all devices.. f.e 4 synths, 3 kenton midi boxes, Maschine+, Maschine Jam, Octatrack, a drummaschine, a dj mixer, ipad, a/d converters, screen monitor, macmini, 2 usb hubs, i really go crazy with all these power cables, so a jasper rack will get rid of this problem with.actually 6 or 7 6-way powerstrips and do not know where to put them. and finally the 2 Genelec Audio Monitors and lighting and finally the audio and midi cabling for all theses boxex.
very useful! thanks
Love those stands . Top quality
Use a bubble (spirit) level to align the holders prior to setting a synth. Assuming the stand itself is relatively level, then the holders can be adjusted and tightened to maintain that levelness. Now, set your synth on top!
Doh! Why didnt I think of it. You need a pretty long one, but it would work i think
@@BoBeats It works well. I actually have a long one at 48" (122cm) that I used to go across the widest-spaced holders, and it worked well to align the two sets of holders to the same position/angle across the entire horizontal tube. However, I don't know if yours does it or not, but when I fully clamp down the holder using the top bolt, the actual holder bar lifts about 0.25" (0.6cm). I found this to be a source of frustration.
I’ve always wanted a Jaspers but I live in Japan and they don’t seem to be available here. I suppose I could always pay import fees but they’re already on the pricy side. Maybe someday.
Any advice on how the Memory clamps are supposed to be used please?
That was a very useful video! Thanks a a lot! 👍👌🙏
I thought, that this video was about best synths!, 😂😂My eyes let me down!
cool-looks like a good synth stand for me in the future!
Great info thanks
Can these match the height of a desk and fit an Intellijel Performance 7U case? Like 546mm wide?
Yes the Ruberpads fly everywhere around..
I need the 3 tier one on wheels in Australia, too bad there is no distributor out here
Outrageous shipping cost to the US. For those of us immersed in synths, there is one constant - change. Since the late ‘80’s I have bought and sold my gear. I was excited to fine Jaspers because I thought I could get some order to my rig. And, at first I did. But things change. For instance, when I added an Integra-7 to my studio, i wanted to buy an iPad holder. The iPad is $116. The total cost is $179.04. Some items cost less than the shipping. Thromann will ship UPS Express only. I asked. Thromann understands gear. They don’t understand musicians. Plan out as many eventualities as you can on what may be your only purchase. Is my 170-4-150 good. Yeah. So far I refuse to buy anything else from them.
For stand alone keyboard stands, I like Konig & Meyer. They have a good presence in the US (B&H for one) and the gear is simple and well built. I have an Omega 18810 stand for my Pro 3 SE and it is sweet. I bought a 18811 stacker off Amazon for $117 shipped. I haven’t gotten it yet, but i expect it will be as good as the Omega.
As far as setting up a synth, it’s easy. Get the tube so it’s snug. put the arms on it. Take a level and level one arm, then the other. Tighten the arms (remember the arms will move a little when you do). Measure the distance between them before you set the arms so you have the correct width under the keyboard. When both of them are level, spin the tube until you get the correct angle. Tighten the tube. BTW, a small cordless drill with a hex bit is not necessary, but it really helps. Get one with a clutch.
thanks for this video !!
I have the big angled 6 tier stand and it’s awesome. However, they don’t have a distributor in Canada, so they’re really tough to get. I was lucky to find a used one. Jaspers’ web site doesn’t accept visa; only PayPal.
I want to get 2 more 6 tier stands, just wide enough for 61 note synths. I wish they had Canadian distribution.
Looks great if you think big. This could replace a lot of other gear.
Available in the USA?
You're spot on with your review. Jaspers are great stands. I have a 4 tier 'V' stand and it's pretty wide. I have a MODX8 on the bottom and various other synths dotted around it. If you plan carefully what you put where and angle appropriately then you get a LOT of usable space. It's very versatile and endlessly upgradable. Allow yourself plenty of time to get the holders spaced and aligned to eliminate any wobbles and, yes, those sticky pads can be a bit annoying. :) Here's my tip: I've cable tied various lengths of black plastic downpipe to the back of the rack, this has allowed me to thread cables around and it keeps the back of the stand looking very clean and tidy.
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For my fellow Americans, be prepared to be disappointed about the availability of Jasper in USA :(. Quite expensive to ship overseas, especially atm. I’m entirely sure, if I had the money, these would be entirely worth it.
What is the cost from Thomannmusic.com to US? I think they ship but is it super expensive? I should look up an American alternative maybe?
@@BoBeats when you first mentioned doing this video a few months ago, I looked into them because I’ve recently found a good deal on an old JX-8P ive brought back from the dead and I’m running out of table space. Prices for shipping is often quoted at around $40, but is often adjusted to between $100 and $200 after order. It makes sense, the shipment would I assume be heavy and bulky.
@@BoBeats For a Jaspers 6D-105B, they are quoting $56.87. That's not too bad.
@@seanrichards8774 Strange, I've never had my shipping adjusted after the order.
@@jvaranx alright cool. Maybe what I’ve been reading is wrong.
2:48 The answer to this is a 4-6' level (about 1.5m), because when you have aynth cave, there's no time or money for friends.
thank you for this
I like Jasper's yes quite nice
My only problem is: I would feel some pressure to fill those stands up - it would give me advanced GAS ;) But seriously: has anybody some experience with mounting Eurorack cases in this stand? Would that make sense?
It is absolutely possible to use with smaller cases. It depends on the case, and which size holders you get. A 60Cm holder could take quite a large case. Just dont angle it too much or it might topple over
@@BoBeats thanks for your answer - appreciate that. Gonna consider the 120cm stand.
Anyone know if a 3-tier A frame would work for a Matrixbrute mounted at the very top? Underneath would be a Prophet 12 and Jupiter-X.
I would not mount a Matrix at the top. I have seen it done. But its ill adviced as weight recommendations dont support this
Thanks, sort of had a feeling it wouldn’t be 100% reliable. It seems like it’ll shake a lot. Especially when getting too expressive on the keys. Luckily I found a b-stock Standtastic 103KSB 60. Each frame holds 70lb, decided to go for it!
Love it, but nothing like this is available in North America :( no local Jasper distributor. And shipping from Europe would make this much more expensive.
Someone said on FB they paid 70 bucks for shipping. Can this be right?
@@BoBeats Id say yes, plus likely a duty tax on top. It is very tempting to order, even from the other side of the pond :)
@1:42 " A key benefit" :) nice pun :P