Why These Motifs Make Us Cry [Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days]

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  • Yoko Shimomura has so many hidden details in her work. Here's a close look at just a few of them!
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    The Kingdom Hearts soundtracks were composed by Yoko Shimomura. Kingdom Hearts is owned by Square Enix and Disney.
    Other music featured, in order:
    "At Dusk, I Will Think of You..." KH 1.5 ReMIX OST
    "Kairi I" KH 1.5 ReMIX OST
    "Against All Odds" Genshin Impact OST (City of Winds and Idylls)
    "Missing You" KH 2.5 ReMIX OST
    0:00 What if he liked a girl
    1:01 Block-Based Composition
    3:13 Xion's Motif
    5:03 Music theory onslaught
    7:56 Kairi's Motif
    9:45 The Power of Leitmotifs
    14:05 PATRONS!!!!!
    14:18 Vector to the Heavens
    17:54 la Tristesse de Xion
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  • @ImmaniGregory
    @ImmaniGregory 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +521

    “We’ll call it BB-- We’ll call it block based composition” I burst out laughing good lord 😂

    • @StarforceSF
      @StarforceSF 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      He realy dodged a nuke on that one xDDD

    • @Fella-hf3nc
      @Fella-hf3nc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That was too good lmao

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t get it

    • @rubensandwich8516
      @rubensandwich8516 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@drdca8263hahahaha.

    • @miciso666
      @miciso666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drdca8263 u will in a few years :D

  • @zeldon567mixtape3
    @zeldon567mixtape3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +648

    "It's alright. You can stop now. Xion." Instantly made me teary eyed, despite knowing it was coming. Such a powerful moment.
    Names have power. Take away someone's name, their identity, their reputation, and you take away them as a person. Acknowledging Xion by name gave her the power to overcome and fight back.

    • @Mark-nh7ng
      @Mark-nh7ng 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      it gets me every time too

    • @BenjaminRodriguezReyes
      @BenjaminRodriguezReyes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      That line is in Jesse McCartney's voice too instead of Haley Joel Osment, that's why it gets me every time. The voice acting there is another huge part of what gives that scene its emotional weight.

    • @Blackfire_2022
      @Blackfire_2022 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It got me too fam

    • @DkKombo
      @DkKombo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@BenjaminRodriguezReyes
      Most people don't get it on their first watch, which kinda proves there's a tonal similarity in that anime boi voice, but also because the tone is so similar at that point in the scene lol.

    • @theemeraldiris6702
      @theemeraldiris6702 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got chills and teary eyed as well, say what you will about kingdom hearts 3 but that ending section was peak

  • @torumakalig5692
    @torumakalig5692 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +779

    I very explicitly remember the first time a video game made me cry was the final xion scene when I was maybe 12. I was on my DS on a car ride and it was hella awkward. Regardless that Ice Cream line do be hitting different with proper context

    • @DiZphunx
      @DiZphunx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      Fr. I was disappointed when I heard people meme the shit outta that line.

    • @SayonaraJyuuni
      @SayonaraJyuuni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      I was 18 and In college. Right before I went to class at alike 8 in the morning. I seen the video for the first time and I was sad all day. This was in 2009.

    • @theemeraldiris6702
      @theemeraldiris6702 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@DiZphunxright? I go feral when people make fun of that scene

    • @XRaxVxeNX
      @XRaxVxeNX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I has pretty much the exact same experience 😅

    • @fearnach
      @fearnach 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Same here! I think I was 13 or 14 at the time, but I'm not quite sure anymore - what I remember most clearly is that it was very late at night, and I had to try and force myself to be quiet as to not wake up my family.

  • @DualFelines
    @DualFelines 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +235

    "Roxas showed her how to feel, and to care, and they both paid the price." is so heart-crushing, well put.

  • @Xaveze
    @Xaveze 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +239

    And then in the KH3 version of Vector to the Heavens there is percussion and the tone of the song shifts as a result, showing just how much of a difference it made.

    • @tsunderecat413
      @tsunderecat413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      i'd like to think the kh3 version-with its full orchestra, wild percussion, swing rhythm, electric guitar, and synths-represents xion no longer holding back. after all, it is called the "limitcut episode" for a reason. because the xion we fight is merely data, there are no emotional stakes. it's just an intense battle against a powerful keyblade wielder.

    • @jembozaba4864
      @jembozaba4864 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@tsunderecat413Then in the main game, you get Vector to the Heaven cross with Roxas’s theme, to make something truly beautiful and epic

    • @tsunderecat413
      @tsunderecat413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@jembozaba4864 ah yes, "hearts as one." a fantastic arrangement, if i do say so myself.

    • @Dat_DekuBoi
      @Dat_DekuBoi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@tsunderecat413 I find it much more happier, as the sadness that lasted 10 years is replaced with joy since Roxas, Axel and Xion have all reunited. I once used it as a victory track

    • @jembozaba4864
      @jembozaba4864 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@tsunderecat413So do I. The perfect theme for you to just sit back and watch Roxas and Xion go to town on Saix.

  • @shadowbrain4814
    @shadowbrain4814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    The biggest cruelty of this piece, I think, is how difficult it is for me to remember it, despite loving it so much. I can remember Sora's theme, I can remember Roxas' theme, but I can't remember how Xion's theme goes without outside help, yet every time I remember it, I cry as though I'm hearing it for the first time. There's a strange, beautiful, sad sense of irony to that, I think.

    • @ZjedzGoffra
      @ZjedzGoffra 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Might be because it's sad but not alerting. Human brain usually tries to forget or repress sad memories that serve no warning purpose for eventual future situations. It also doesn't evoke feelings of familiarity. Xion's fate was unavoidable, she was out of place and the track represents that well.

    • @johanseth3277
      @johanseth3277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cause she doesn't exist
      Guess Nomura did really made a well written character
      Cause she is forgotten

  • @VaultLink
    @VaultLink 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    There's something that's never brought up in the video but it's something I've never been able to stop thinking of ever since I first noticed it.
    The first half of the block denoted in red is actually used in another song in Days, it's the glockenspiel of "At Dusk, I Will Think of You" and it goes for THE ENTIRETY of the song.
    If you take this part as being from "Dusk" and not "Xion" (because of how ever present it is) it's like her theme is calling back to those afternoons sitting on the clocktower with Axel and Roxas, a testament to why she Is.
    And if you take the alternative, it's like even when she's gone she's always there with Roxas on the tower. At dusk, I will think of you.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ...How did I miss that

  • @hannahhorst4059
    @hannahhorst4059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    I still remember that I cried so bitterly over this fight and the end of the game that my mom asked me if something happened and if I'm alright, cause I looked like someone died

    • @amysgrrl
      @amysgrrl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I asked the same thing when Jonathan and his sister ended this game. I didn’t understand why a video game could evoke such strong emotions but I get it now. -Jonathan’s mom

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You know they did a great job when they can make someone cry that hard. I'm so sad I missed out on experiencing this because I didn't finish 358/2 Days.

    • @pascalsimioli6777
      @pascalsimioli6777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, what you know is that people cried and that's it. I didn't cry, does it mean they did a bad job then? Don't be silly, your or my emotional response has no bearing on the quality of this game which frankly was awful.

    • @awilenbernkastel1439
      @awilenbernkastel1439 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amysgrrl Your heart be blessed for digging deeper into your children's video games.

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pascalsimioli6777Nobody said anything about the quality of the game. You are getting the wrong idea and making this into something much bigger than it is sir.

  • @creepykels
    @creepykels 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +327

    What makes Shimomura's work, and honestly just music in general, so incredible to me is that you can understand the meaning and emotion in the music without understanding music theory. You can *feel* it. And understanding the musical theory behind a piece doesn't ruin the magic at all it just makes you appreciate the intent and composer's artistry even more. You explain music theory better than any other music theory content creator I've watched, and you inject so much emotion in the explanation itself that it really makes watching you break down these pieces of music such a joy to watch!

    • @raeoverhere923
      @raeoverhere923 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Shimomura is a master of musical expression, imo. Every time I play a game she's composed for, I get so incredibly attached to the world, story, and characters, and the music has a lot to do with that. The first game I played with her music was Legend of Mana, and tracks like Places of Soul and City of Flickering Destruction still bring out a ton of emotions in me; I didn't even know she composed for KH until maybe after KH2 when I started watching the credits, but now I can hear her distinct musical touch in soundtracks. If you want to hear more of her work, her "Best of" albums are "Drammatica" and "memoria!".

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Thank you so much! It made me smile to read this because that's one of the main things I want to convey with each video - music theory just gives us a convoluted, imperfect vocabulary for stuff we mostly already know.

    • @caldw615
      @caldw615 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I notice this in a lot of video game music that I have grown to love over the years. They just...make you feel something.
      Kingdom Hearts is great for this. Dearly Beloved is an amazing sample of this. You hear it for the first time on bootup of each KH game and...something just clicks deep down.
      If the creator of this video happens to see this I would LOVE a deep dive on Dearly Beloved from each KH game.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@caldw615 Hi! While I do think that topic is worthy and interesting, I'm worried it would be a very repetitive video, and the last thing I want is to make people tired of hearing Dearly Beloved. Still, I'm writing it down!

    • @caldw615
      @caldw615 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JonathanBarouch Oh I get that but I do feel it could be interesting, maybe even as a more general "theme of the game" since the feel of Dearly Beloved tends to pair with other tracks in each game that fit the overall vibe. KH1 is a lot more upbeat like a lot of the tracks such as the Destiny Island and Traverse Town's combat theme. Gives a sense of adventure. Where as KH2's is slower to fit the more sombre tone of the inclusion of Nobodies, The Organisation etc, likely reflective of Sora growing up a little too.

  • @TheGamersShade
    @TheGamersShade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Xion, the girl who never was, who just wanted friends. She is honestly my favourite character, not just in kingdom hearts, but period.

  • @SAPProd
    @SAPProd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    I was an adult when the very first Kingdom Hearts game was released. I remember the first time playing it and the game made me feel like a kid, evoking so many feelings and memories watching these Disney properties and playing the Final Fantasy games growing up. I definitely know what you mean about the songs evoking such childhood wonder and emotions. I always laugh when people say they grew up with the series; the rare times I feel old.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That's awesome! I hear from a lot of people who pick up KH as adults that it doesn't do anything for them, and frankly I get it. I'm glad that it was still able to work as a time capsule for you, that rocks.

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I grew up with the series and was a kid, and I feel old when I think about how old the series is now!

  • @cameraboy9640
    @cameraboy9640 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    “Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all” WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME 😭😭😭

  • @jembozaba4864
    @jembozaba4864 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    She may not have supposed to exist, but as she’s easily my character in my favourite series of all time, I’m really glad she does. Her reunion in KH 3 and Data Boss fight are just the Cherry on top of the delicious cake that is Xion.

  • @himura-miki
    @himura-miki 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    It feels like a failure -- Sora's failure, Roxas's failure, Axel's failure, my failure -- that her existence turned out that way. 358/2 Days doesn't get enough love, but the story was definitely worth playing, for better or worse. I both love and hate whenever Xion gets mentioned or shown off in any way... Mostly because it worked. That final fight? Oh, that caused so much pain, and it WAS very much a "why did it have to turn out this way" situation. Xion and Xion's music make me feel so much sadness.

    • @Liex59
      @Liex59 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This honestly sums up why I didn't like Sora pre DDD and why the scene with Roxas meant so much to me. Sora just didn't know the consequences of his own actions. He didn't know that he was causing all of that pain just by existing. And when he finds out, he gets mad, for Roxas. It's a really respectable scene. He throws it in Xemnas and Xigbar's face. He's willing to carry the weight his Other can't anymore and it was such a powerful moment for me.

  • @dannytran5064
    @dannytran5064 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Just wanted to say that using the title of the Xion’s theme as a quick gag at the beginning of the video and then hitting us at the end with the emotional punch of what the theme actually means is actually genius scriptwriting

  • @avocadoadmiral6142
    @avocadoadmiral6142 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The VA and voicle lines during the boss fight make the music even better

  • @elena8953
    @elena8953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Jonathan, this one made me tear up. Your editing here was phenomenal, and you made the whole thing easy to follow. What a wonderful work. This song has always been incredibly important to me, and looking at it through this analysis brought it even closer to my heart.
    I can't believe you mentioned Against all odds at 8:58. I heard it so many times and I KNEW that those progressions were familiar, but I could never pinpoint why! In some way I too was emotionally linked to Xion, but ultimately forgot her, just like Roxas.
    Vector to the heavens has always been a slap to my face. You're so right in saying it makes us reluctant to approach the fight, because whenever I got to that point in game it always felt like I was punching with my right fist, then punching myself with the left for daring to do such a thing to our best, most precious friend in game. It was a slow, painful fight, with an overwhelming music surrounding us screaming at us "Is this what you want to do? Do you *really* want to go on, and attack and kill your best friend?"
    She was unrecognisable and distorted, but undeniably it was still *her*. It all happens so fast, while you remember all the beautiful times you spent together in that location. I think that's still one of the most impactful scenes I played in games as a whole.
    The way you explained leitmotifs was incredible too: I never before realized that they weren't linked to notes but to intervals, and that makes them beautifully versatile in musical composition. It's always there, recognisable and familiar, even when used in different contexts. In my musical ignorance I always pictured leitmotifs as a smooth, short dance move. The piece is a choreography, it rises and lowers in tension and pathos, but you can alway slide in a more familiar move to link everything together
    Also, I had never seen that KH3 scene before! Thanks for the free feels :)
    Overall I am SO happy to see new works from you. You've been going for a year strong, and I'm really proud of how your content has organically evolved in its presentation the more you explored it. Every new video from yours is unique, perfectly tailored for the track you want to tackle, and that grants special insights in the most meaningful tassels that build the music we all cherish and love. Thank you so, so much for your hard work, every video of your truly helps us appreciate the tracks most close to us even more :)

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I read this before, but now I'll give it a proper response! I know you were looking forward to this one and so I'm happy it lived up to your expectations. I wish I had played Days when it came out. I think it would have messed me up. But like, in a fun way.
      If I could change one thing about the way people talk about music, it would be that intervals should be common knowledge instead of notes! Notes matter for musicians, scholars, and folks who like this kind of content, but not casual listeners. I can't wait to make even more stuff!

  • @theonetruespur5896
    @theonetruespur5896 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yoko Shimomura is a genius. This theme always makes me tear up.

  • @IllyasArt
    @IllyasArt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I grew up with Kingdom Hearts, Xion's theme still makes me pretty sad, but not enough to cry like the Nier soundtracks. I never knew the full name of Xion's theme, but hearing it literally made me break down in tears, even knowing what happens in KH3. Please keep making videos! Basically every video you've released has made me cry. Crying isn't bad, in fact, it is actually good for your health to cry every once in a while.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I frikkin LOVE crying

    • @IllyasArt
      @IllyasArt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JonathanBarouch Same! I replay Nier Replicant and Automata every few months just so they can destroy me all over again. :D

    • @lloron6
      @lloron6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too! I never knew the actual name of the soundtrack. And sure didn't understand the french name mentioned at the beginning of the video.
      So when the names is said st the end of the video.... i couldn't stop the tear falling from my eye.

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed. Cying is natural and it's good to cry to get those emotions out. Let this be a lesson to people that crying is okay and there's nothing wrong with it. That's a powerful message in the Inside Out movie.

    • @awilenbernkastel1439
      @awilenbernkastel1439 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@IllyasArt I can't play NieR: Automata anymore. I've been through my first playthrough, I've thoroughly researched the underlying messages and lessons, and I can't bring myself to repeat "the never-ending cycle of life and death" again. I love NieR: Automata to bits. I sing its praises. I recommend it to every person I can. No hyperbole here, it became the catalyst to bring me out of depression. But I can't play it again. I just want those fictional characters to be left alone. They've been through so, so much. They don't deserve anything, they don't exist, I know that, yet, I want them to be happy on their own, in our collective imagination of them. It hurts me emotionally hitting the "New game" menu option. Two years later, hearing "Weight of the World" brings a swelling in my throat, tears ready to flow should I try following along the lyrics. Not because of the song itself, but what it's been tied to, this feeling that I'm not alone, we're all here suffering and we can make it easier on ourselves, together, and all it takes is reaching a hand. I've reached people, and I take a level of pride in believing I have tilted the scales of a few people against deciding to take their own lives and having given themselves another chance. I'm not sure I did, the fact they are still alive and kicking gets me to believe I did.
      Truly, crystalizing the idea that "A future is not given to you, it is something you must take for yourself" has been a salvation on my life, and I try to take it to as many people as possible. I can't thank Yoko Taro and his team and partners enough, ever.

  • @Mariodash23
    @Mariodash23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was crying like a baby when I heard Xion's theme in KH3, followed by seeing the Sea Salt Trio reuniting together, I just bawled out like crazy for about 6 minutes. 358/2 Days was my first KH game (not a good first game, I know), and I grew so close to Roxas, Axel, and Xion despite my annoyances with the game. I saw myself in all of them and the rest of O13, and I genuinely didn't want to fight Xion in the fight against her.
    I get why people think Kingdom Hearts is cringe. It can be dumb, inconsistent, and all around confusing. But beneath all of that, it's a genuinely emotional series that doesn't hold back when it's about to throw hands at your heart. So thank you, Jon. Thanks for helping me keep this series, and especially Xion, memorized.

  • @monoverantus
    @monoverantus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Excellent, just excellent. The jokes, the clear visuals, the pathos. Even disregarding how invested I am in the topic (Vector to the Heavens is one of my favorite pieces to play), you make engaging soundtrack analysis seem so effortless.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's wonderful to hear because it's n Ot

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JonathanBarouch I feel like that's a music reference that I don't understand. I second what monoverantus said. I wish I could play an instrument, but alas I can't multitask at all, and my memory has gotten real bad on top of that.

  • @WayToDawn72
    @WayToDawn72 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I've lost count the number of times I've listened to Musique and Vector but watching this felt like I was hearing again for the first time. And I'm not too proud to admit I teared up multiple times watching this

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's always my goal! Thrilled to hear it worked for you :)

  • @SorcerorNobody
    @SorcerorNobody 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    2:46 Why did it only take two notes on the bells for my eyes to start moistening up GOD DAMMIT SHIMOMURA
    4:53 I DID NOT NEED WET EYES TODAY
    12:00 NO THAT'S IT I'M GONE GOODBYE
    Excellent analysis. Xion's theme has always been one of my favourite tracks in all of KH and now I have a better understanding of exactly why it's so good.
    I also love the point about overusing motifs as it's a real beef I have with Final Fantasy X, where it feels like half the soundtrack is just arrangements of Zanarkand and Suteki da ne. I know it's actually not quite that much of the soundtrack, but the fact that it _feels_ like it is always struck me as not a great sign.

  • @samapak7
    @samapak7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kingdom Hearts 3 is the first and only game to make me cry. When Xion and Roxas returned.. it was perfect. I was in my college dorm crying like a baby. Glad my roommate wasn't home.

  • @ISAWdano
    @ISAWdano 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The editing on this video is stellar!!
    I'm able to follow your explanation perfectly despite not knowing how to read music myself!
    Breaking down Xion's theme is great as well because so many people focus exclusively on primary characters.
    Please keep doing this so long as you enjoy it!

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you so much, I will!

  • @Laterose15
    @Laterose15 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    One of my favorite themes in 358/2 Days (aside from Roxas' and Xion's themes) is its version of Dearly Beloved. Simply by fading the piano to the background and bringing forward the melancholic strings, Shimomura was able to repurpose a very familiar theme into something wistful, nostalgic, and sad.
    Great job on this video, I loved every minute!

    • @imlegos2153
      @imlegos2153 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Days' Dearly Beloved is great because it essentially flips what part of the song stands out. Which makes a lot of sense for the game where you're essentially playing the 'bad guy side'

  • @natanaelgustafsson8188
    @natanaelgustafsson8188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    You just put the feelings i held for this song into word i could never truly express.
    Thank you

  • @icefiredragon94
    @icefiredragon94 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    So glad someone analyzed this great theme, and the relation it has to other themes that accompany it! It gives even more depth to her character than before

  • @ATR1830
    @ATR1830 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Your scriptwriting is awesome. You rule of three’d us with the title of Xion’s theme and genuinely made me cry. That was excellent setup and payoff

  • @0axis771
    @0axis771 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    358/2 Days was the first KH game I ever owned. I played 1 and 2 in parts because others owned the game and I could play with it, but 358/2 was the one I truly got to play. It was a simple game, and objectively not that great. Yet I adored the game so much and saw Roxas growing little by little alongside Xion.
    As the story went on, and the conspiracy was unraveling, where Xion began to understand her existence and role, I began to get scared, remembering that KH2 never had Xion be mentioned, which made me realize that Xion was doomed. Yet it was learning that Xion would not even be remembered that truly broke my heart.
    And every time I heard that theme, I felt so much sadness as the memories I had of that game would surface and I just hoped that Xion could one day come back, someway, somehow. I got my wish over a decade later.

  • @drantino
    @drantino 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the way that some of the placements of xions motif repeating it self once or twice make it sound like "hey remember that? ya lets reminis about it"

  • @MxLexi
    @MxLexi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I was literally searching for "why does vector to the heavens make me cry music theory analysis" months ago. Thank you for answering my prayers with exactly what I wanted

  • @Bayesic
    @Bayesic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Vector to the Heavens is hands down my favorite KH track ever

  • @FFF12321
    @FFF12321 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This and Vector to teh Heavens are my favorite tracks in KH canon. There are songs that go harder where I'm 99% certain multiple violins and pianos were burned to ash by the sheer intensity, but these songs have the right quality to draw out that feeling of "I don't want to do this, but I must." It encapsulates the core of KH from Sora and Kairi and ties it in perfectly with who Xion is and i tjust keeps on paying dividends.
    Great video as always, I alwasy love hearing these kinds of technical breakdowns of some awesomely crafted music.

  • @golden_starlight_
    @golden_starlight_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the way you were literally explaining how the song works to make you emotional, the way i was fully prepared to hear the cutscenes, the way i still teared up nonetheless

  • @robTCGZ
    @robTCGZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One nice little detail about the piano motif explained at the beginning of the video, is that the last compass also plays briefly in Aqua's boss fight in the realm on darkness from KH3.
    The way I see it is that that particular section of the motif represents being forgotten or the fear of being forgotten. The former is what happened to Xion, and the latter is what Aqua was feeling, which is why she fell to Darkness.

  • @MisterZebra42
    @MisterZebra42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This is the most accessible and understandable musical breakdown of this kind that I’ve ever seen. Well done!

  • @antitoxine7012
    @antitoxine7012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I feel like xion's theme and Vector to the heavens are both pieces about memory itself, particulary in contrast to kairi's theme.
    Xion's theme is slow, crystaline, searching for itself and constantmy repeating it's motif. I've never knew what to think of it before learning the presence of kairi's theme inside both songs, which makes the whole point of xion's theme pieceing her history back, as much as she can. I also feel that it's why there is this feeling of emptiness, or rather the lack of an ending in this theme.
    Vector to the heavens feels like the culmination of this storm made of confusion. The theme tries to stay in the hands of xion, but it's too late. Kairi's motive begins to be the focus point, after which dearly beloved tries to complete itself but fails, sending xion back into the storm. Because at this point, the truth is written: xion has decided to confront her origin, and to seek what's right, even if leaving the storm means to stop existing. It's particularly true for vector's first iteration, which really feels like xion's theme going faster, harsher, maybe until it completly breaks, only leaving kairi's motive.
    I don't even know what to say. This battle's so sad the mysic itself brings this impression of us murdering someone because it has already been decided.

  • @admentlore
    @admentlore 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What a massive video. And one where you put so much work and effort into. Thank you so much, Jonathan. I know this took a lot out of you, but I appreciate your analysis and your education. I learned so much from what you have described for the Leitmotifs. I didn't realize how many were in the music and you highlighted just how masterful a composer Yoko Shimomura is. Your description of Dearly Beloved also made me cry, as it instantly brought back the memories from when I was a child and played my first PS2 game called Kingdom Hearts, and that was the first song I heard. Thank you for that moment.
    Also, I will note: Roxas's theme is also hinted at here. The first 2 notes from the violin part (perhaps one of the saddest parts of the song), are similar to the first two notes from the main sequence of Roxa's theme. The last second 2 notes are variations of the second 2 notes of Roxas's theme, making it Xion's. But the listener automatically hears Roxas in the theme. I always associated Xion's theme to be a combination of Roxas and Kairi.
    Thanks again for this, brother. You have touched our hearts-- Jonathan.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you so much!! The "oh my god" moment when I show all the places the motif shows up was based off my actual reaction as I was researching for the video. I never noticed either. It's so subtle even though it's EVERYWHERE.
      Ah, damn, you're right that violin solo IS a reference to Roxas! I wish I'd caught that. Oh well. I can't expect to catch every Shimomura Easter egg

    • @admentlore
      @admentlore 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JonathanBarouch I know. She put so much thought, love, and care into her craft. She surprised in ways we never knew we could be surprised.

  • @milesbarnes6777
    @milesbarnes6777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To this day, I’m still in awe at how Vector to the Heavens manages to sound ASTOUNDING on the DS sound system. I’m not a music theory nor hardware specialist, but the slight - I’ll call it “crispness” - the forcefulness of the piano playing has on the DS’s sound system makes it sound slightly different than it does in 358’s “movie compilation”.
    I acknowledge that I do have slight hearing oddities because of eczema in my ears, but the way that Vector to the Heaven’s intensity nearly crackles on the DS makes it INSANELY emotional. It is pushing the sound chip’s encoding to the limit, which is PROFOUND in and of itself.

  • @lloron6
    @lloron6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For me my 3 most favorite soundtracks are dearly beloved, xions theme and heavens vector.
    I played the games while i was a teenager almost a young adult, so it was not my "childhood" feelings which filled me while playing the games, but my feelings of "wishing for love" that were harder at the time.
    So i connected harder with the subtle love story told by the games, which ended up getting me hit harder by those 3 songs. For me they are the embodiment of love:
    - The Longing for Love (Dearly beloved)
    - The Sadness of Love (Xions Theme)
    - The Tragedy in Love (Heavens Vector)
    Thanks a lot for such great video.

  • @Axel-wo6qu
    @Axel-wo6qu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like watching you describe KH music.

  • @furlyghost
    @furlyghost 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    laughing within the first minute to damn near crying in the last minute. what a fuckin rollercoaster. this is top tier production bud

  • @Iesous27
    @Iesous27 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've never played kingdom hearts, but this song hits in all the feels. It's got that melancholic, notalgic and sorrowful power that makes you think back on life's decisions.

  • @randyfreeman2547
    @randyfreeman2547 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive cried to this song before and thought I was over it, but the speech in the last 2 minutes of the video made me lose it.

  • @MikeKennedyNFL
    @MikeKennedyNFL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I could listen to you talking about KH music for hours upon hours upon hours

  • @zetten4109
    @zetten4109 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I was younger and playing days.. when I got to the xion fight I didn’t want to win. That was the first and only game to make me feel that way.

  • @Kratos7560
    @Kratos7560 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Okay so let's check out where this shows up in the track- OH MY GOD!"
    Alright, that got more laughs out of me than it had any right to. Comedy aside, Vector to the heavens is a core memory of mine as my first KH game was 358/2 days and good lord, Xion's death inflicted a good scar on my emotions when I completed that game. So, when I saw that she returns in 3, it was an emotional roller coaster all over again. This game has a way of crushing your feelings into a fine dust, only to somehow mend them again ready for the next pulverizing crush. And the music in the series in itself is an odyssey in and of itself. Major props to the game developers who gave rise to this amazing series!

  • @jolestoli
    @jolestoli 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This track still blows me away to this day honestly, beating days for the first time as a kid and hearing this theme (vector to heavens version) for the first time is one of the rare videogame childhood moments I distinctly remember where i was (my grandmas house standing in the dining room charging my ds because there wasn’t any other usable port at the time)

  • @TheFeriner
    @TheFeriner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “The fight is not the focus of this track”
    Hits the nail RIGHT on the head. It’s that feeling that you’re almost watching a scene in a movie, even though you’re literally fighting an end game boss. I love when games do this, and that statement is exactly how I want to describe it

  • @jonathanrobinson198
    @jonathanrobinson198 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of my favorite tracks in KH3 is the one where you hear the the very triumphant and warlike motifs of Roxas, Xion, and Sora together.

    • @regyssilva161
      @regyssilva161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hearts as One, in the battle against Saix

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The definitive 358/2 Days is on the Nintendo DS. The releases of it are just "movies" that lose most emotional weight and staying power than playing and experiencing Roxas and Xion's story.
    Also, aside from Aqua, Xion is of the most tragic characters in Kingdom Hearts. Not only does she fade back into Sora, she fades from everyone's memory, excluding Roxas and Riku who try in vain to keep remembering Xion. The ending on the DS really drives it home. Roxas, Axel, and Xion are fooling around and conversing at the clock tower having fun. However, Xion fades away as if she was never there like seeing a memory being rewritten before your eyes.

  • @yvalen3749
    @yvalen3749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember playing this game repeatedly to search for a different end, and everytime I reached her fight I ended crying cause it was so unfair that things had to end like this. This was my first Kingdom Hearts game, and I didn't know anything about Sora, Kairi or the others, but for me it was like playing form Roxas shoes from the very first moment

  • @SuperLink9
    @SuperLink9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wonderful video. Vector to the Heavens is one of the few pieces of music in all of media that makes me cry almost every time I hear it. the first time I heard it I was a blubbering mess, and I barely cried back then. its power over my emotions is like, profound. I've also learned that it has that power even with people who are unfamiliar with the context.. it's just an incredible piece of music I think.

  • @duncandonuts9
    @duncandonuts9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've also thought I recognized a bit of Twilight Town's music in her songs, since they all spend so much time there together too

  • @Ezekku
    @Ezekku 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I found this channel randomly listening to KH music, and Vector to the Heavens was always a strong and deep song close to me.
    Instant new suscriber, the passion for music mixed with GAMING music is amazing

  • @TheExcelsia
    @TheExcelsia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was beautiful. Thank you.

  • @VGInterviews
    @VGInterviews 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would love to hear your thoughts about how KH3 managed to merge Roxas' (sad theme) with Xion's theme (sad theme) and completely turned them into one of the most triumphant sounding songs in the series
    Also how the Data battle turned Xions theme into a heavy action rock version

  • @DarthCasus
    @DarthCasus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful video, as always

  • @CallMeSol_
    @CallMeSol_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best videos i’ve ever seen. Got emotional watching this one, keep up the great work.

  • @franciscojaviermendezrinco1902
    @franciscojaviermendezrinco1902 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    358/2 Days is a tragic story. In the end, no one gains nothing from this. The organization lost their keyblades to use, Xion lost her life, something that she was never intended to have in the first place, Roxas lost his friends and innosence, and Axel lost the only two people he actually got to care about. Losers all around, but Roxas, Xion and Axel were the ones who lost something more valuable.

  • @abrahamschuman1692
    @abrahamschuman1692 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video all around! 👏

  • @ughwhydoidothisendme8477
    @ughwhydoidothisendme8477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im so happy videos like this exist, ive wanted to see breakdowns of shimomura's work in kh for forever and vector to the heavens is one of my favorite tracks

  • @FreyRosfield
    @FreyRosfield 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh i legit cryed, i love this song so very much, and your analysis was perfect

  • @randompotatur3081
    @randompotatur3081 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for making this. I feel a strong bond between these two tracks, as their my most listened to songs of all the kh soundtracks. It’s really nice to have a better understanding of why they’ve become so important to me.

  • @luiddmonteiro4912
    @luiddmonteiro4912 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your analysis was incredibly perfect. I had noticed some of the points you mentioned in the song, but it was you who gave me the opportunity to learn more about the topic of this song that I love so much.

  • @liamperkins5461
    @liamperkins5461 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    you deserve so much more attention for this work. Amazing video.

  • @Stequal2
    @Stequal2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still gives me goosebumps. And your explanation makes me love it even more❤

  • @davontekh
    @davontekh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your content

  • @Toron90
    @Toron90 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was sweet great video!

  • @sebastianbecker6078
    @sebastianbecker6078 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for making this video. This is one of my favourite pieces of videogame music and I notice all these repetitions and motifs myself in the music and feel them, but I dont have the knowledge of music to put it into words. A lot of this sounded quite advanced to me but you still made me able to understand perfectly why I love this track so much without getting lost in 'music language' that I wouldnt have understood if you hadnt explained it so well.

  • @theeyeoftheyinyangs
    @theeyeoftheyinyangs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much research gone into this. You clearly have gone through so much musical research for this, and it was fantastic.
    Always did like Xion, and it’s always sad as hell knowing what she’s gone through.

  • @ongyuxuan6989
    @ongyuxuan6989 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video analysis is so good with good storytelling. Why'd you make me cry again😭

  • @midboss22
    @midboss22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stumbled on to this channel and I was hoping for more I enjoy the content keep up the good work

  • @noahscruggs4351
    @noahscruggs4351 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always look forward to a release from you Jonathan. This one hit me right in the feels. I have not played very much of the kingdom hearts series but the story and music mix together and feel such emotion. After finishing this video I’ve exclusively been listening to the two tracks on repeat.

  • @futureqiqimain4601
    @futureqiqimain4601 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ur videos are always welcomed as a way to see my favourite musics in a another way i haven't before
    Thank you!

  • @leftymu
    @leftymu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent from start to finish; great, clear explanations and visuals and useful inclusion of cut scenes for demonstration. Really interesting and well done, thanks for your effort

  • @Emarella
    @Emarella 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was so excited when I saw a new video by you in my feed, especially on one of my (many) favorite Kingdom Hearts characters! Love your work!

  • @alecpangia8806
    @alecpangia8806 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an amazing channel! I’ve always loved music in gaming (and all media) and felt it inspired my own writing. But I’ve never known how to speak intelligently to how the best pieces are arranged. You do such a masterful job at that! I hope this channel keeps going!

  • @aarongreen9925
    @aarongreen9925 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just to tell you, I fucking LOVE these videos and they're so fun and I will watch all of them that you make

  • @lauraxion0024
    @lauraxion0024 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just found your channel and your work is INCREDIBLE, I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS❤

  • @ketwin
    @ketwin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, what a wonderful video!

  • @bsmalls7729
    @bsmalls7729 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an amazing video. For years I always knew that xion’s theme and especially vector to the heavens were special, but having you explain it sonically made it all the more special.

  • @tolisdrs330
    @tolisdrs330 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dont Stop Posting bangers

  • @crazychase443
    @crazychase443 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Aaaaaand now i'm in tears. wow, absolutely incredible video. informative, hilarious, emotional. I just had to run a become a patreon subscriber after this! I can't say thank you enough for this!!

  • @HunkyTurk
    @HunkyTurk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent commentary, your analysis gave ne goosebumps!

  • @GrimmsWolf
    @GrimmsWolf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goddamn the second you played the violin part for the first time I fully burst into tears. These songs are so powerfully emotional. Thanks for breaking them down! It's really neat to see what makes them tick.

  • @zaptrotix3
    @zaptrotix3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an awesome video! You've translated the feeling of this music in the most beautiful way. Thank you!

  • @requiem8940
    @requiem8940 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    no way you uploaded this just now... I've been thinking of the days trio and even booted up a new play-through of 358/2 just last night... freaky. this ought to be great!!

  • @sagetenshi
    @sagetenshi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instasubbed. Fun, informative and all about music and a franchise near and dear to my heart. Can’t wait to see what else you do! ❤

  • @cortenebrae1123
    @cortenebrae1123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And here I sit and cry again to this song

  • @RealSteezyJay
    @RealSteezyJay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro keep making these videos. I will watch every one of them. Straight GAS

  • @jonathanwebber2041
    @jonathanwebber2041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You won my sub with this video ❤ love it. Its my favorite video game piece

  • @nanachilover7289
    @nanachilover7289 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God i swear this vid got my water works overflowing, even when i thought the tears stopped id then hear that beautiful yet heartbreaking theme and immediately feel the sadness i had for xion,to this day she will always be my top favorite character in terms of heart wrenching stories besides terra,thank you for this vid i needed this today

  • @daletucker8098
    @daletucker8098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video I’m glad someone is finally breaking down the music in these games and the emotional impact the motifs returning in different songs has, also you make it approachable whether you are a theory nerd or just someone who enjoys the music and a solid sense of humor to boot! Saw you had some video on music from other games I like as well, subscribed! I knew this song was special when you get the dearly beloved motif such a beautiful tie in and really brings out the feelings of nostalgia when I first realized that motif was there I was like damn what f****** genius that is.

  • @JH-no8sy
    @JH-no8sy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job!!!! This was very informative. So many good moments! I was 11 when the first KH came out, it will always hold a special place in my heart.

  • @DanFernandezPin
    @DanFernandezPin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am not crying. 😭
    Thanks for this video, man,

  • @Sion428
    @Sion428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Probably one of my favorite pieces of video game music. Thank you for teaching me to appreciate it more.

  • @dunno6161
    @dunno6161 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:34 whole scene hits every single time because of that damn motif

  • @kennykurniawan
    @kennykurniawan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listening to a game soundtrack breakdown at work and tearing up at the end of it. Wonderful work, thank you.