Hey all, just a note: I mistakenly recorded Minigun at 30m instead of 50m during the test portion. Apologies! What affect does this have? well it makes the close-range graph much more in favor of Minigun without implants (im pretty sure with recoil implant, all shots hit at 50m anyway). The graph is fairly accurate at 30m tho, since Overdriver has little/no falloff between those ranges, so the only thing that changes is my estimation on Minigun Range (without pilot) that is equal to Overdriver performance, which i said was ~75m based on data, but is probably closer to ~60m. Thanks for your time :)
Does seem similar to what we theorized on this weapon. Always love when you break it down though. I can also see where the dps of the minigun can pull away even a bit more if you are able to pre-fire to spin up the barrel. I know you dont do that for raw testing, but I would think people who use the weapon regularly get in that habit and it will help its dps more. Still, great comparison.
yea, also Overdriver can be kept at maximum damage (instead of overheating and then cooling down to lower dmg) to kill faster as well. doing so during the test would introduce human error tho, so i opted not to
Hey yall both need to call them out for this implant debacle....I cant get my implant parts back when taking off a pilot AND no way to get any back for a weapon we no longer use this is madness man...plus the price of 40 bones is a bit too high...these are some greedy bastards man
Going to be honest I think the overdriver will be better because it doesn’t leave the really long reload time and doesn’t have to deal with slow turning speed
in my last CG comparison, i did say that even tho they seem great in the test portion, they dont work very well in practice. they arent bad, just not super practical
Should I buy surge now or nomad as i am in tier where surge is unlocked and not nomad please suggest as i have collected 11k acoins after 6 weeks of playing
wait .. i thought Overdriver was in Assault Class while Minigun is a whole other Class (not sure what its called) or maybe im mistaken - but if im not mistaken and these 2 are from 2 different classes won't that be like comparing Apples to Oranges
Overdriver is Assault, Minigun is Heavy Duty. The reason to compare them is that, when posed with the question "which weapon do i buy?", you know which one is more beneficial for what you want it for. Most people likely wont have the means to get both (even if Overdriver were for acoins), so this saves them time/resources
@@CorruptdKetchup okay then would you consider Plasma Canon or Pulse Canon equilant to Minigun too? Coz according to you both serve similar role .. Right?
@@feisty8 not plasma cannon but pulse cannon functions similarly to minigun. It is in no way even close to that level of effectiveness but it fills the role of suppressive fire just the same as minigun (mostly). The thing is that minigun does more than twice what Pulse Cannon does.
yea ive only done a couple comparisons where i featured more than 2 weapons, but i dont think ill do many more. the issue is that its very difficult to talk about results in a 3-way comparison, talking about pros/cons of 2 is much easier to do, as well as easier to understand. Probably ill make a few "mega-comparisons" where i have like 6 different weapons at a time (and just not talk about the results), but only after ive done 2-way ones for each weapon
@@RuFFlesGaming have you done a no mag weapon comparison? Overdriver v repeater v gravs. And arcs(how badly was the arc nerf in comparison) Would love to see this. ❤️❤️
because all of my tests are done with 24 energy, as the "average" late-game output. more energy makes everything look very similar (because it all kills fast), and less energy just takes too long and isnt as realistic to real battle
Привет! Спасибо очень интересное видео и правильно что делаешь тесты на роботах 24 энергии с оружием 12 энергии. Так как в ангаре игроков в основном стоят роботы с 24 энергии.Спасибо хорошая работа.😂
appreciate the support! in regard to those 3 weapons: Railgun Range is nice if thats your only sniper, but its usually not, and most often used under 100m, so the implant isnt necessary. EM Range is great, it actually reduces the range necessary to deal max damage (from 75m down to like 50m). Mortar Range is kinda pointless imo. anyone who gets that close will probably kill you, so best to save that slot for something else. Hope that helps :)
I’m telling you this weapons gunna be good lol mark my words. Reloads shorter Damage is higher at higher with heat level Fast mechs or shielded mechs will be able to deal fast high damage at very close and high ranges.
I will not pay for a gun that is basically a mini gun just with different skin. They should have made it mini gun laser beams at rapid fire shot instead.
i use viper 16 and a friend uses overdriver 16, both on eclipse. Both are really effective. It seems different boards are what makes the difference in which one of use gets more kills in the battle. Overdriver is interesting though because he does really well at lower stars, while I'm at 6 stars. Viper you can hide better, while overdriver requires constant line of site. I really like both of them, and I'm also pumping up my minigun 16. There is great value in all 3 of them. Ruffles rates only minigun in the highest tier though, and viper and ovedrivers just below it due to maximum damage being less against fully maxed out mechs.
At first glance it looks awful. But it does pack a heavy punch. Can deal damage close range with mingun, long range with mortar, and has the scorpius mech ability for around corners. My biggest issues are the pilot mismatch, and the fact he isn't using 12 mortar rockets.
Thanks for the vid,like this kind a lot. I have a 3 star minigun 16,and when I upgrade it to something reasonable,and if I buy this new one 'cheap' at 3 stars and I upgrade it,I will surely let you know. You can expect my amateur opinion in less than 2 years, whahaha! Thank you for letting me know I don't have to sell my other kidney😂
when fighting maxed opponents, i have 2 options: 1. Use fun builds, but camp a bit to stay alive and not lose. 2. Use meta builds so i dont have to camp. i prefer the first option, bc using meta stuff gets boring. basically impossible to be aggressive with weak builds
I love the minigun too much to switch over 🥲 very used to pre-spinning constantly especially around corners so I can get the quickest dps seeing someone, Minigun 16s on my Onyx, so effective!!
Hey all, just a note: I mistakenly recorded Minigun at 30m instead of 50m during the test portion. Apologies!
What affect does this have? well it makes the close-range graph much more in favor of Minigun without implants (im pretty sure with recoil implant, all shots hit at 50m anyway).
The graph is fairly accurate at 30m tho, since Overdriver has little/no falloff between those ranges, so the only thing that changes is my estimation on Minigun Range (without pilot) that is equal to Overdriver performance, which i said was ~75m based on data, but is probably closer to ~60m.
Thanks for your time :)
Does seem similar to what we theorized on this weapon. Always love when you break it down though. I can also see where the dps of the minigun can pull away even a bit more if you are able to pre-fire to spin up the barrel. I know you dont do that for raw testing, but I would think people who use the weapon regularly get in that habit and it will help its dps more. Still, great comparison.
yea, also Overdriver can be kept at maximum damage (instead of overheating and then cooling down to lower dmg) to kill faster as well. doing so during the test would introduce human error tho, so i opted not to
Hey yall both need to call them out for this implant debacle....I cant get my implant parts back when taking off a pilot AND no way to get any back for a weapon we no longer use this is madness man...plus the price of 40 bones is a bit too high...these are some greedy bastards man
When the 12 is released, compare it with the Viper & Minigun, both 12 & 16 please
I love minis, but if i ever get Major I'll surely make Overdriver build just cause how it fires.
ikr, its so satisfying
We are
Overdriving with this one..? 🗣️🔥
Going to be honest I think the overdriver will be better because it doesn’t leave the really long reload time and doesn’t have to deal with slow turning speed
ruffles: chainguns are good now
also ruffles: chainguns are worthless in reality
in my last CG comparison, i did say that even tho they seem great in the test portion, they dont work very well in practice. they arent bad, just not super practical
11:47
Guys I don't think he like mortars.
I also really hate mortars if that's the case
i was just confused what that build was lol
Even if overdriven has slightly more burst it can’t outclass mini-gun suppressive fire because you can block a whole lane with this weapon.
true, nothing is a better minigun than the weapon itself. as explained, you wouldnt really use these 2 in the same way
Should I buy surge now or nomad as i am in tier where surge is unlocked and not nomad please suggest as i have collected 11k acoins after 6 weeks of playing
Nomad can't be purchased with acoins yet, so get Surge
Which is better for ready to use purpose as I will play mech arena only for 2 months then my engeneering will start
Ah, well both are good but Nomad is better fs
@@RuFFlesGaming thx
wait .. i thought Overdriver was in Assault Class while Minigun is a whole other Class (not sure what its called) or maybe im mistaken - but if im not mistaken and these 2 are from 2 different classes won't that be like comparing Apples to Oranges
minigun is heavy duty, and yes you are correct
Overdriver is Assault, Minigun is Heavy Duty.
The reason to compare them is that, when posed with the question "which weapon do i buy?", you know which one is more beneficial for what you want it for. Most people likely wont have the means to get both (even if Overdriver were for acoins), so this saves them time/resources
Assault and Heavy Duty serve largely similar roles
@@CorruptdKetchup okay then would you consider Plasma Canon or Pulse Canon equilant to Minigun too? Coz according to you both serve similar role .. Right?
@@feisty8 not plasma cannon but pulse cannon functions similarly to minigun. It is in no way even close to that level of effectiveness but it fills the role of suppressive fire just the same as minigun (mostly). The thing is that minigun does more than twice what Pulse Cannon does.
RuFFles: *gives detailed analysis*
Me: big guns go burrrrrrrrrr!!!!
Why no comparison with chaingun?
i did Minigun vs Chain Gun already if you wanna see that
@@RuFFlesGaming na man chain gun vs minigun vs overdriveer . already saw the video you talking bout
yea ive only done a couple comparisons where i featured more than 2 weapons, but i dont think ill do many more. the issue is that its very difficult to talk about results in a 3-way comparison, talking about pros/cons of 2 is much easier to do, as well as easier to understand.
Probably ill make a few "mega-comparisons" where i have like 6 different weapons at a time (and just not talk about the results), but only after ive done 2-way ones for each weapon
Well I love minigun, pairing it with eclipse and sometimes bastion and demolish a crowded control point or just breaking the enemy line of defense
Minigun is indeed a fantastic weapon
How does viper compare to these?
similar dps, but reliant on the rockets (which can be inconsistent)
Great video. Always love stats!! And it’s an interesting comparison..
Assault vs heavy…
I’d take assault, less reload, no slow to aim when firing.
very true, they each have their pros/cons
@@RuFFlesGaming have you done a no mag weapon comparison? Overdriver v repeater v gravs. And arcs(how badly was the arc nerf in comparison)
Would love to see this. ❤️❤️
interesting..
why not just use a minigun 16 for the test?
because all of my tests are done with 24 energy, as the "average" late-game output. more energy makes everything look very similar (because it all kills fast), and less energy just takes too long and isnt as realistic to real battle
Привет! Спасибо очень интересное видео и правильно что делаешь тесты на роботах 24 энергии с оружием 12 энергии. Так как в ангаре игроков в основном стоят роботы с 24 энергии.Спасибо хорошая работа.😂
Hello, RuFFles! :) Love your vids!
appreciate the support!
in regard to those 3 weapons:
Railgun Range is nice if thats your only sniper, but its usually not, and most often used under 100m, so the implant isnt necessary.
EM Range is great, it actually reduces the range necessary to deal max damage (from 75m down to like 50m).
Mortar Range is kinda pointless imo. anyone who gets that close will probably kill you, so best to save that slot for something else.
Hope that helps :)
i like overdiver 6 overdiver 16 update for now
Will to 8s work with implant? Thnx
depends on where youre at in the game
@@RuFFlesGaming well.... I was thinking about slapping them on my Vortex, plus the 8s are 13 buck right now lol
I have the damage implant already, the disk launchers aren't doing it for me.
low-rank miniguns arent great, but you could give them a go. 13 bucks isnt bad, and you could prob run 8+12 on it in the future
I’m telling you this weapons gunna be good lol mark my words.
Reloads shorter
Damage is higher at higher with heat level
Fast mechs or shielded mechs will be able to deal fast high damage at very close and high ranges.
you might be right, but we'll see!
I will not pay for a gun that is basically a mini gun just with different skin. They should have made it mini gun laser beams at rapid fire shot instead.
im glad they didnt make it OP tho, makes it easier for f2p
Can you compare overdriver 16 with viper 16 please?
i use viper 16 and a friend uses overdriver 16, both on eclipse. Both are really effective. It seems different boards are what makes the difference in which one of use gets more kills in the battle. Overdriver is interesting though because he does really well at lower stars, while I'm at 6 stars. Viper you can hide better, while overdriver requires constant line of site. I really like both of them, and I'm also pumping up my minigun 16. There is great value in all 3 of them. Ruffles rates only minigun in the highest tier though, and viper and ovedrivers just below it due to maximum damage being less against fully maxed out mechs.
11:48 bro what is that atrocious build😭
lol idk
At first glance it looks awful. But it does pack a heavy punch. Can deal damage close range with mingun, long range with mortar, and has the scorpius mech ability for around corners. My biggest issues are the pilot mismatch, and the fact he isn't using 12 mortar rockets.
Thus isn't a comparison. 1 16 mini 1 16 over on the same bot. Thus us null and void
your math aint mathing
16 x 1.5 = 24. Using Stalker's ability perfectly simulates double 12s
I am here wondering how the f is Carbine Legendary.
I am the idiot that bought Carbine 12 and 8 and regret it
i wonder the same thing ngl
Thanks for the vid,like this kind a lot.
I have a 3 star minigun 16,and when I upgrade it to something reasonable,and if I buy this new one 'cheap' at 3 stars and I upgrade it,I will surely let you know.
You can expect my amateur opinion in less than 2 years, whahaha!
Thank you for letting me know I don't have to sell my other kidney😂
lmao 🤣
I like the overdriver
Mods changed everything😢😢
yup
@@neex5349 in a good way or bad?
overdriver and mini go brrrrtttttttttttttttt
yes
Yoooo the menigun 😂😂😂 op as sheeeeeesh
Eh Minigun too powerful
That's because the chain gun sucks LOL
Great video!
I really like your videos but I like to as a request plese stop camping 👍
when fighting maxed opponents, i have 2 options:
1. Use fun builds, but camp a bit to stay alive and not lose.
2. Use meta builds so i dont have to camp.
i prefer the first option, bc using meta stuff gets boring. basically impossible to be aggressive with weak builds
good to know nice vid
Overdriver is better!!!!!!!
Awesome 👌🏻
I love the minigun too much to switch over 🥲 very used to pre-spinning constantly especially around corners so I can get the quickest dps seeing someone, Minigun 16s on my Onyx, so effective!!
Don't blame you, Minigun is still my favorite weapon and I'm not convinced this one will change that
Aye, I also have the minigun legendary recoil implant so it works so well even at 90-100m which is just amazing 😂