@@iHasCaek Blizzard was started by people that wanted to play good games. It was by gamers, FOR gamers. Not every game was a hit, but a good number of them were. Now however, most of those people have either died or retired and been replaced by people that can make video games, but they probably don't play games themselves.
Blizzard got spit on the face twice on this month, Overwatch got splattered by Marvel Rivals, and now Diablo IV, by POE II. Microsoft is going to have to clean house soon.
Also "return to form" is just corporate speak for "we share zero of the original IP's dev team, so we're gonna try to copy the work of the giant's who's shoulders we stand on, but we have no idea how and also want it to be different cuz we know what you want more than you do yourself."
Many don't seem to understand that D4 was just made for to make money not about passion about gaming nor honoring original Diablo games. Just to make money, nothing else. PoE has been made people who has passion to gaming and that shows. There is huge difference so we should not even compare PoE2 to D4. We should compare is picking nose better than D4 and it is.
@@Parapsye I think a lot of people understand D4 was only made to make money...that doesn't disqualify it from comparisons to games in the same genre though. Why would it? In fact, I think that's all the more reason why they should be compared.
Not to mention... They said we would get the Paladin sooner than later..... They Lied and claimed that the Paladin didn't fit their DLC....A DLC with a Jungle, Mephisto, Akarat and Zakarum....if you know Diablo lore unlike the Devs, You'd know that all of those have a direct link to the Paladin class.
That is so true. In a world where you have to work to be able to eat, playing video games is a luxury when it comes to time. So spending that time on a quality game instead of wasting it on a bad one matters so much.
I do think it is, a little bit - many people (like me) also have a limited amount of money, so can't just buy every game they want to check out and have to be selective. There are a lot of great games I haven't experienced because I can't afford to.
Don't have time to play bad games. Heck retro handhelds are way to go. You can buy small devices that fit in your pocket to play old PS1, psp and under while on the go. No point spending so much cash just to be disappointed.
@@peteb2867 Yeah I did not like D3. I think it was the lack of combat engagement. It felt like non of the hits were making contact and the cartoonish graphics made it worse
I paid for the 100 Bucks version to get early access, also thinking that the game would last for ages. I never regretted spending money on a game this much.
6:50 - When I first started playing PoE2, it felt like I was playing Diablo 2 2.0... A modern, evolved version of Diablo 2 which is exactly what I want out of an aRPG.
Yeah, nothing has cured my itch like Diablo 2 did. D3 & D4 are a joke in comparison, I'll have to check out PoE over the holidays when I have some time.
@@Fr33Diver Frankly that's a dumb argument on many fronts.... There's really not that much "skill" required to play PoE2 either. Just because it has dodge mechanics doesn't make it the epitome of a skill based game. aRPGs as a whole (including PoE2) are NOT skill based games, they're knowledge based games. Knowing what you need to get, where and how to get it. The gameplay beyond that is relatively trivial in terms of skill. After you beat the bosses the first time in PoE2, that challenge and blah blah "soulslike" appeal is mostly gone. Again, dodge rolling doesn't really qualify a game as being skill based. Beyond that, is had many likenesses to Diablo 2 in terms of atmosphere, music, the Act progression mirrors D2 almost completely (forestry/wooded cemetery, tomb areas in Act 1, Desert Act 2, Jungle Act 3), many of the enemy designs are incredibly similar, The Hooded One basically acting like Deckard Cain. But you're right, it's totally nothing like D2 because it has dodge roll... LMAO.
@@bencastor9207damn if it’s like Diablo 2 I’ll have to check it out! I have Diablo 3 on my switch and pc and I just don’t find it enjoyable at all to play. I remember farming on d2 and trading for gear to eventually build a good pvp character. Those were the days.
I am huge fun of D2. I played it over and over again. When D3 came out I was super excited then I played it. Never again. Diablo is dead. Blizzard is dead. Let the dead rest.
It's not exactly free. Not only it's time limited, it's also level capped at 25 and the game just throws you out into the game menu as soon as you reach lvl25 essentially forcing you to create a new character and start from zero. You can't roam around with your lvl 25 character, cant respec to try new builds. You reach lvl 25 - OUT of the game.
D4 was my introduction to ARPGs, got 1400 hrs in that game not knowing what a ARPG should be like. D4 kinda introduced me into PoE2, which I am grateful for
@@CRVSEd4 did not create the genre, no dev on d4 was on D1 or 2. It's a cheap imitation of d3 and not only that, diablo wasn't even the first arpg so that argument is invalid anyways.
I was so sick and tired of D4, I ran D2 Resurrected and started a new game with a new character. I had more fun with that game in 15 mins than I'd been having with D4 in months.
They can thank themselves for everything. Old titles from decades ago and nostalgia is the only thing that carries this company by now. If they don't wake up and start to actually make good products again FOR THE PLAYERS with a better customer support they might end up as the next Ubisoft in a few years.
seriously people, stop getting hype over blizzard releases. They haven't shown up since the original Overwatch 9 years ago. How bad do they have to prove they are before people stop buying their games? Big whoop you had fun on WoW 20 years ago and you went to blizzcon with your buddies. That Blizzard is long gone. Stop living in the past and stop wasting your money.
So D4 cucked everybody who bought it for $100 + expansions LMAO ! Edit: Apparently it's only a free trial up to level 25. You still have to pay for the game and expansions.
Blizzard has had a huge lack of innovation across all their titles. They stick to the same shit and hope it keeps selling because they don't want to take risks.
23:50 thing is, we are coming full circle. the gaming industry began as gamers making games for other gamers, simply because it was a niche activity some 3 decades ago for an adult and no one else got interested into it once they grew up. people who learnt how to make games were people who loved them. then the industry grew and became literally the most profitable media in the world, surpassing even cinema. which means we then got the attention of investors, and publishers either became or were bought by corporations. and they used every behavioural psychology trick in the book to ever cut production costs and raise profits. games became purely products, and not a form of art too anymore, for these corporations. people began to study and graduate on game development without having any particular passion or exceptionality. they were taught how to develp products, not games. they weren't taught to make gameplay that people loves, they were taught how to tap into addictive triggers and maximize player retention. not aesthetics that impresses and inspires, but that fits the current discourse and that never provokes, that has no "edge" (have you ever wondered why horror elements has simply been slowly vanishing since gaming became mainstream???). no maturity and critical thinking, for it would reduce product accessibility and reduce potential market. have you seen ubi devs saying that elden ring had bad gaming design? UBISOFT DEVS??? yes, I know it sounds terrible. but all of this worked. it worked outstandingly well for them, for a looong time. but thing is, you can only strong arm your domestic market with marketing and media brainwashing, buying and corrupting promising studios and etc. eventually, other markets would develop their gaming industry and also reach a "gaming golden age", too. and in a globalized world, you can't impede them just obliterating your sandcastle, forced market. this time is coming. but I don't think it will be the end of blizzards and ubis. they'll just get competition, but it's not the end of the world for them... sadly.
My take: gamers used to be devs. So they knew what to produce as they wanted the same things as their consumers wanted. Now, devs are primarily activists and/or DEI hire, and I'll add in corporate slaves as well. The passion is lost when when the wrong people are in positions they shouldn't be in 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I think a lot of it is marketing departments. They’re in charge, while devs used to be in charge. Marketing is trying to make it appeal to the greatest number of people while devs are trying to make a good game for the people who are going to buy it.
Once upon a time game dev studios was a DnD party coding a game they eanted to play themselves inaide thebgarage of one of their mom's house. Now its thousamds of people who just cashing in a paycheck
I would argue this is mostly due to how much the industry has grown (to be one of the biggest ones there is)... so it now appeals to people looking for money; when back in the day it was more of an artist's choice to work on a sub-par industry creating stuff they liked. I got a friend, that kinda wants to make videogames (I been creating video-game related content as a hobbie since forever myself, even if not seriously and I slack a lot), and when he talks to me about that; he always asks about what's popular, what sells and that kind of stuff... He will wonder about how to monetize the game without even knowing what game he "wants" to make or even it's genre... >_
@@KaemonarchI think the biggest problem with games right now is like the other person said activists, I say that bc several games including a recent one avowed, kinda showed they didn't care about money, there's alot of games taking a hit and it's all bc these new devs don't know how to not be some sort of activist and I also blame alot of colleges for this bc they have become birthers of these devs, Matt hansen as example hit the nuclear button on his career
"Don't you guys have phones?" was the final shovel of dirt on the grave of Blizzard for me. We'll never see a late 90s early 2000s Blizzard quality again.
Big companies attract people who are not very passionate about the games, they just go there for money. I bet that today the only truly passionate people in blizzard are some random developers at low level who have nothing to say how the games are being developed.
Or atleast they manage to slip in some old lore with mesheif and watch the rest of the project be mutilated into a monster. Wtf was durial even up2 what was the titan before lilith? No context, barely any old lore, weak cutscenes, repetitive gameplay, items that CONSTANTLY out date and need to be swapped. How did it fail?
time has become more valuable to gamers as the main currency than money. as many have said, with so many games out, and less and less time for many, Blizzard thinking people will still dump hundreds of mindless hours into D4 are clueless.
The Diablo II we got was not the version that the original Developers made. The Developers that made Diablo 1&2 were shafted by Vivendi when they presented their version of Diablo III, and eventually left the company. Two or the founders of Condor Games (Blizzard North) went on to make Torchlight 1&2, and the third founder went on to work on Path of Exile!
The original version of Diablo 2 is a horrible experience. I have no doubt their version of Diablo 3 was total ass. Torchlight 1/2 were very boring and had some of the problems of D2. PoE had all the problems D2 had which made me hate D2. And the founders who went on to make Hellgate London brought all the problems of D1/2 to Hellgate London and made that game ass as well.
@@GeorgeMonetdid you actually play D2 at launch back in 2000? D2 was groundbreaking, there was nothing near it at the time. LoD just made it more legendary. D2 is a 24 years old game and is still better in MANY aspects over contemporary A-RPG. D4 is a pale “cash cow” shadow near it. D2 has: - better story - better campaign - cube recipes - real rune system - far better skill tree - far greater replay value And it had no need for “endgame” stuff. D4 has graphics and “mtx shop, battle pass” - for near 100USD.
A few months ago there was a free weekend for D4. "Play for free all weekend!". I tried and guess what. I reached lvl 20 in a few hours and the game stops being free. So actually it should sound like this "Play for free all weekend until you reach lvl20!"
@@irishsage2459 The themeing of the Templar is also really on point. They can utilize skills like Consecrated Path, Holy Flame Totem (which really is more than just a flame totem), and in some builds Righteous Fire. Ofc in poe (more so than poe2) any class can use any skill, but the Inquisitor ascendancy uniquely can create a Consecrated Ground Effect that not only is buffed but is created when stationary (which can happen quite often for certain builds that cast while standing still).
I don't think Blizzard is incapable of making great games but they design them solely to get the max amount of players and hook those players into DLC, which is basically a subscription model. D4 is like every Netflix movie now, just good enough to look like a good game, but in the end has a mindless plot that goes no where and is empty at the core.
0:35 Wukong was 60€ as well and had the most Players on Steam ever if you don't count PUGB which only has the Top due to that one Event they did but Wukong had *triple* that of Elden Ring and Baldurs Gate III in player-count and it still has almost 100k active Players daily
. 1/6th by my opinion think about weapons classes 3 extra chapters of campain and some extra staff to the map. And dlc because they want keep people in so they can have their microtransaction.
This game feels more like a Diablo game than Diablo. Not trying to troll either. Coming from a D2 fan, I did enjoy D4, but they definitely went down a different path that feels so far from their core roots
Poe 2 bosses are in a league of their own, the quality that each boss has is so good and unique and what's crazy we are only playing half of the game right now in early access
It’s not that the studios you mentioned (Larian, Fromsoft, GGG etc…) are more technically skilled, although you could make that argument, it’s that they’re clearly passionate about their games. It’s not just a paycheck for them. They love their products and their community and want them to be successful and fun. The AAA’s are just soulless cash grabs at this point.
The funny thing to me, is that the reason I quit playing D4 was because I didn’t have enough bag space and I hated doing inventory management every 5 minutes… and that is basically POE2’s entire monetization structure.
@@monsieurbreakdown4814 man, in poe we dont pick up every item drop on ground :V not like D4 just pick up everything and hope for a good one. We craft it from white quality to godlike item. Because item modifiler in poe is good, we just basicly inden a item and know it good or bad in 1s. And drop it. You dont have to keep everything useless in your inventory. Just go buy it from another one ( we have trade, every thing can be trade )
If your bag is too full, you’re picking up too much, as others have said loot is very different from Diablo. As for stashes, you have plenty to complete the campaign and do a few maps, I think it’s completely fair to drop $60 at the point and be good forever.
It's not the first time they make the game free2play for a short period, also again with the Steam numbers, baldie doesn't want to understand that 90% of Diablo players play via Battlenet and consoles, it appears that this is a hard concept for Asmongold. if 2k new players joined via Steam, that means in reality there are around 10k new players that are testing now for free.
Bought D4 at launch, spent $100 CAD. Fast forward through four very lack luster "seasons" and they ask their players to BUY AN EXPANSION THAT COST THE SAME AS THE BASE GAME. That's where I hopped off. No thanks, why the fuck do I need to spend another $100 on a game that hasn't proved to me it was worth the FIRST hundred I spent on it.
I was worried when they announced D4 because diablo 3 was made too simple, and the story loop was horrible. How could they make it even simpler? you get Diablo immortal.
Diablo 4 started being assembled from Diablo Imoral and D3 and D2R assets the next day after "Is this an out of season April Fools joke?" at the Diablo imoral's reveal.
I went back and played D4 for about 30 minutes last night and it’s insane how much better POE 2 is. I’m a casual gamer and get to play maybe 5 or 6 hours a week and I enjoyed my time with D4 but the obvious quality difference between D4 and POE2 is insane. The bosses alone are far superior in POE2.
I spent $100 for Diablo 4 was so hyped for it, right before season 1 I had already put in 439 hours…. Then the patch right before season 1 happened, haven’t played it since. NEVER EVER will buy anything BLIZZARD again.
Within the first couple hours of playing PoE2 I remember telling myself this feels so much like D2... the excitement to get drops, the adventure in exploring and finding the little side quest bosses, looking in every corner of the map and destroying all the destroyable environment. PoE2 truly is what I hoped D4 would have been.
Blizzard didn't make Diablo what it was, so it was never a surprise that they couldn't mimic it's success once the people who made the game left the company. I don't know why consumers have a hard time realizing this. 1 man at Blizzard saved Diablo 3 and I'm not even sure if he still even works there.
It was doomed, by making several times more money than GGG's made in its entire lifetime (by the way, they lost more than half their revenue this year), and having a concurrent playerbase of 3 million, post-player drop, to PoE *and* PoE 2's combined 400k (which is generous since it's almost entirely double-dipping)? I too love making my own reality so I can pretend we gauge game success with golf rules so smaller numbers are better than bigger numbers.
I am 140 hours in poe2 and there is stuff i still want to do at level 90 get better gear unlock the endgame bosses etc. D4 it just feels the same all the way no real chase items that change your game doing the same boss at t4 for the same loot get boring quick. Poe2 is what we wanted diablo 3 to be after diablo 2.
I don't consider myself a hardcore arpg fan but I was so close to buy Diablo 4 because it has gone on discount so many times... im just so glad I waited for POE 2. It's hard and irritating especially as an evasion monk but the gameplay, mechanics, and boss fights makes me want to keep playing it and its just early access! $30 is inexpensive for a game like this, I can't even believe that the game will be free in a few months. Its an amazing game and I recommend it to anyone. I generally don't enjoy single player games but this game is incredible and fun without other players so if you have friends to play with, its going to be an absolute blast.
I don't know why they didn't add a Paladin/Crusader to diablo 4 lol. It wouldn't have saved the game but they are a staple of the diablo universe. They had them in the d4 cinematics lol
People that work there these days does not like any organized religion and it is reflected in their writings. They did not even attempt to write it even handedly
@@Ozzystrayroo alright, time to remove your tin foil hat. your statement is a bit farfetched. they literally have an organized religious army following Inarius. High Heavens vs. Hell? seems religious to me since D1. lol
@@timtom4300 It really doesn't if you ever read Diablo lore. Spiritborn adjacent stuff has existed since basically the beginning, and Necromancer and Witch Doctor lore is heavily intersected with it.
@@khmer5o3 it has underlying religious theme on the previous game before because the people that created the classics still care and does not have deep seated grudge againts religion. Even if some of them were agnostic or atheistic they are still able to keep their personal view in check to potray it evenly of the good and bad value about religions. These days i saw only them potraying the bad side almost exclusively without even talking or considering the good value that is present in organized religion especially in AAA western games. And i am saying all of this as an agnostic person myself, man.
I'm an old guy, the whole season thing in arpgs isnt for me. I want to endlessly progress the same character in my own tempo...........does that even still exist?
D4 was the last chance I gave to Blizzard. I havent bought anything Blizzard after 2010 I made a big exception for D4 because the new artstyle after the appaling D3 Comic Style made me think they disregarded D3 and tried to improve on D2 formula. But actually it was just a trick. So yeah nomore Blizzard games ever again. Will wait until Blizzard falls apart and Microsoft sells of the IP to someone capable.
12:45 My Christmas gift to myself was some stash tabs in Poe1 after getting back into the game after a long time (whenever the boat character screen was new). So I went on the shop and saw that there was a deal to get early access Poe2 and the equivalent $ in shop currency. A couple hours later I go to try out Poe2 only to discover the shop is shared between the two games! This reminds me of something that old pc developers like Blizzard would do years ago. Its a pity the games are so different because my hard drive is nearly maxxed out on Spirit.
@nasamcmahon at least the game is free.. not like spiritborn and runes and a targeted farming dungeon locked behind an expansion. Blizzard sucks at its core nowadays.
Thanks for showcasing my fellow South African streamer (AccolonnTV) on your stream Zack! He's a really nice guy and the sound of reason where we come from.
I think the fact that D4 released with that inventory bug that loaded everyone's inventory in your game or whatever it was, was the biggest blunder and overlooked bug I've ever seen.
Path is okay for me but i really dislike the looting there. I rarely find something helpful while leveling. The craftable affixes are so stupidly random, it's annoying.
Mark of a good ARPG? When loot falls on the ground in PoE2, I get excited about it. When loot drops on the ground in Project Diablo 2, I get excited about it. When loot drops on the ground in Diablo 4, I barely can be bothered to pick it up even if it makes the number go up.
D4 -> POE/2 OW -> Marvel Rivals Heartstone - basically dead Heroes of the storm - shutdown already? idek, dead WoW - long past its glory (released 2004 - 20 years ago) I know that Blizzard got acquired by Activision but it seems to me theyre running low on just like games or playerbase... if this was a restaurant this would be a horrible menu to chose from
Can you all just stop paying for Blizzard products? I've stopped 4 years ago and still sober from blizzard's nonsense. Honestly you players are to blame for still buying blizzards shit garbage products
@@Globalgenocidehey means most fans of poe spend more than the 30 for poe2 ea, so ggg made way more money than asmon thinks. And i have to say, even as a first time player on poe2, i bought the 30 pack for access, played a few more hours and upgraded to the full 480 pack. Mainly for the art book, but still. I instantly new, poe2 is the only game i will play in the next years.
@@crosis2 man...elon buying microsoft would be huge. We might have good windows os again, not to mention all the other studios that MS has been collectinh over the years like bethesda, obsidian, 343, to name a few
Main issue I had with D4 story was that your allies were very incompetent and some of them were even annoying. And the ending where you let a child run away with Mephisto made no sense.
1. Buying D4 was the worst financial decision that I made in my entire life. 2. Diablo franchise already died with d3. D4 further cemented its death. D2r is an exception though.
I remember when I was 13. The anti-D4 crowd needs to touch grass. I've paid full price for games that I've never played. I guarantee you had at least an hour of fun with D4 even if it was the first hour.
@@toby2581 Literally comparing bad financial decisions. Paying full price for a game and not playing a single minute of it is far worse than paying full price for a game, playing it for 4 hours, and realizing you don't like it. Infinitely worse, mathematically speaking.
@@Breadddwardmost people who are arpg enthusiasts mentioned it quite often It's always known to be a good game. Even if the visual is just okay at best.
Last Epoch yes. PoE2 not yet. PoE2 is what people said about D4. Its a good skeleton to build upon. But it has way way way too many issues right now for it to be consistently enjoyable over an extended period of time
No, diablo had its chance. Blizzard will make it good to draw people in, then turn it into a micro transaction dumpster fire the moment they get everyone back. Let the company turn so other more decent companies are allowed to grow.
i logged into diablo 4 at launch, and resistances were in the game but gave you zero defensive benefits and still took up slots on your items while crafting, and then blizzard removed 75% of armors effect. I killed uber lilith on a 14 damage druid with no s and then uninstalled the game after standing in town on the lilith mount with the butchers barding for an hour so the casuals would see what they could never accomplish.
20:37 I came back for War Within. and i don't regret paying for the expansions since i had a few weeks of fun. But then the next major patch was announced, and i saw the list of stuff you had to do to get the better gear, the next shiny ring, the next currency... and i just figured that it was now a good time to stop playing again.
I bought diablo 4 on steam 70$. then wanted to play it on Xbox but u have to buy it there too means another 70$ gone. I was normaly used to play Blizzard games on Battlenet but that would cost another 70$ im already at 140$ bro fuck Blizzard what else can i say
My decision not to buy games on release has paid off yet again.
ahahahahahahaha genius fr fr
remembr the days when a blizzard release meant standing in line for a midnight release? i miss those days
Issue is that if no one buys games day one, even great ones, then there will be no great games anymore.
@@iHasCaek Blizzard was started by people that wanted to play good games. It was by gamers, FOR gamers. Not every game was a hit, but a good number of them were. Now however, most of those people have either died or retired and been replaced by people that can make video games, but they probably don't play games themselves.
Almost made the mistake of buying fail guard on release just cause it was dragon age. Thank you for all those who suffered so I didn't
Blizzard got spit on the face twice on this month, Overwatch got splattered by Marvel Rivals, and now Diablo IV, by POE II. Microsoft is going to have to clean house soon.
Microsoft is probably even worse, they prefer to colect IPs like it's some gatcha game and do nothing with it.
Although given how crooked they are, they'll think pandering to fringe groups will fix everything somehow.
both were released on the same day too :D
Microsoft is mostly the problem not the solution.
Need something to obliterate wow as well
Also "return to form" is just corporate speak for "we share zero of the original IP's dev team, so we're gonna try to copy the work of the giant's who's shoulders we stand on, but we have no idea how and also want it to be different cuz we know what you want more than you do yourself."
We can't, and we won't, but we still promise that we will
Many don't seem to understand that D4 was just made for to make money not about passion about gaming nor honoring original Diablo games. Just to make money, nothing else. PoE has been made people who has passion to gaming and that shows. There is huge difference so we should not even compare PoE2 to D4. We should compare is picking nose better than D4 and it is.
btw Diablo 1 and 2 devs announced that they are starting to make new arpg
@@Parapsye I think a lot of people understand D4 was only made to make money...that doesn't disqualify it from comparisons to games in the same genre though. Why would it? In fact, I think that's all the more reason why they should be compared.
"Return to form" is code for the marketing team to nostalgia bait.
Not to mention... They said we would get the Paladin sooner than later..... They Lied and claimed that the Paladin didn't fit their DLC....A DLC with a Jungle, Mephisto, Akarat and Zakarum....if you know Diablo lore unlike the Devs, You'd know that all of those have a direct link to the Paladin class.
This 100%
If we get paladin , it may be tied to a heaven expancion
what an A+ Comment
So still no paladin , oh well .. back to Atlas
Spiritborn or Paladin, who cares? you got a new class so stop crying
Diablo 4 wasnt a return to form, it was a reinforcement of why GGG exists
Daiblo 3 created GGG, Diablo 4 Cemented it
*ashes cigarette
The devs of diablo immortal were truly the pioneers of the franchise.
Financial cost is not the barrier to entry, quality of game is.
People have a limited amount of time, and they want to spend it with the best games.
That is so true.
In a world where you have to work to be able to eat, playing video games is a luxury when it comes to time.
So spending that time on a quality game instead of wasting it on a bad one matters so much.
Underrated comment of the year
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I do think it is, a little bit - many people (like me) also have a limited amount of money, so can't just buy every game they want to check out and have to be selective. There are a lot of great games I haven't experienced because I can't afford to.
Don't have time to play bad games. Heck retro handhelds are way to go. You can buy small devices that fit in your pocket to play old PS1, psp and under while on the go. No point spending so much cash just to be disappointed.
Paid full price for d4 at launch, I've never felt so ripped off by a game.
I have. Diablo 3 was a ripoff.
@@peteb2867 Yeah I did not like D3. I think it was the lack of combat engagement. It felt like non of the hits were making contact and the cartoonish graphics made it worse
you could buy a used ps5 copy of the game for 25 bucks 3 months ago lol
It taught us a beautiful lesson though. Don’t pre order games and don’t buy based on nostalgia. Blizzard is a husk of its former self.
I paid for the 100 Bucks version to get early access, also thinking that the game would last for ages. I never regretted spending money on a game this much.
I won’t even play that shit for free.
Shit is 137GB. Free or not, I ain't wasting that bandwidth.
@@randomguy8165 Holy shit wtf, I dont even have that much space left.
@@stylishskater92 80GB basegame, and a whooping 50GB VoH lmfao
Same
@@randomguy8165 Still wild to me as a European that you guys overseas have limited data plans lol
6:50 - When I first started playing PoE2, it felt like I was playing Diablo 2 2.0... A modern, evolved version of Diablo 2 which is exactly what I want out of an aRPG.
And then when you reached endgame it felt like you were playing Dark Souls.. challenge run.. with the starter weapon.. unupgraded..
Yeah, nothing has cured my itch like Diablo 2 did. D3 & D4 are a joke in comparison, I'll have to check out PoE over the holidays when I have some time.
POE2 is nothing like D2. There’s no skill required to play D2
@@Fr33Diver Frankly that's a dumb argument on many fronts.... There's really not that much "skill" required to play PoE2 either. Just because it has dodge mechanics doesn't make it the epitome of a skill based game. aRPGs as a whole (including PoE2) are NOT skill based games, they're knowledge based games. Knowing what you need to get, where and how to get it. The gameplay beyond that is relatively trivial in terms of skill. After you beat the bosses the first time in PoE2, that challenge and blah blah "soulslike" appeal is mostly gone. Again, dodge rolling doesn't really qualify a game as being skill based.
Beyond that, is had many likenesses to Diablo 2 in terms of atmosphere, music, the Act progression mirrors D2 almost completely (forestry/wooded cemetery, tomb areas in Act 1, Desert Act 2, Jungle Act 3), many of the enemy designs are incredibly similar, The Hooded One basically acting like Deckard Cain.
But you're right, it's totally nothing like D2 because it has dodge roll... LMAO.
@@bencastor9207damn if it’s like Diablo 2 I’ll have to check it out! I have Diablo 3 on my switch and pc and I just don’t find it enjoyable at all to play. I remember farming on d2 and trading for gear to eventually build a good pvp character. Those were the days.
I am huge fun of D2. I played it over and over again. When D3 came out I was super excited then I played it. Never again. Diablo is dead. Blizzard is dead. Let the dead rest.
Aw man D3 wasn't that bad c'mon
Let's face it, D4 should have been titled Diablo Immortal 2
Actually it should have been "Lilith" because there is no diablo in this game...
Diablo immortal is more financially sucessful than this game
Oddly, Diablo Immortal is an overall better game.
There’s no pvp and no pay to win elements? What are you talking about lmao
What a stupid comment.
Almost 2025 any I'd prefer to play Diablo 2 than IV
D2 is much more fun though
I'd prefer Diablo 1 even
D2 seems to be a better game, not that I've actually tried it myself but seen lots of footage. They did a great job with the d2 remake
I was so thirsty before POE2 lunch i played a few runs in D1 and I tried Project Diablo 2 (amazing mod I recommend)
Poe2 is the true Diablo 3.
D4 got curbstomped by PoE2
Overwatch got curbstomped by Marvel Rivals
Whew, what a month for Blizzard!
Merry Christmas, Blizzard!
i don't think anyone is in danger or worried at all at Blizzard / Microsoft, D4 still has way more players then all other ARPGs combined.
@@alexbarcan4705 wdym literally no one plays d4 anymore
And don't forget CoD BO6 is dying
It's a bad time to be an Actiblizzard employee
To be fair, Overwatch got curbstomped by Blizzard. The amount of sheer incompetence and mismanagement that happened to that IP is astonishing.
It's not exactly free. Not only it's time limited, it's also level capped at 25 and the game just throws you out into the game menu as soon as you reach lvl25 essentially forcing you to create a new character and start from zero. You can't roam around with your lvl 25 character, cant respec to try new builds. You reach lvl 25 - OUT of the game.
Exactly, it's not free at all, it's a teaser.
It's Early Access!!! Hahaha
@@liquidemotionzz3232It is about d4 bro, not PoE
Lmao. So Blizzard exported it's archaic level 20 cap system from WoW to D4. That's hilarious.
D4 was my introduction to ARPGs, got 1400 hrs in that game not knowing what a ARPG should be like.
D4 kinda introduced me into PoE2, which I am grateful for
Yeah D4 is incredible great to get someone into ARPGs (and for parents who don't have much time to play but like ARPGs)
Guess what, you played the game that created the genre, lol.
@@CRVSEd4 did not create the genre, no dev on d4 was on D1 or 2. It's a cheap imitation of d3 and not only that, diablo wasn't even the first arpg so that argument is invalid anyways.
I was so sick and tired of D4, I ran D2 Resurrected and started a new game with a new character. I had more fun with that game in 15 mins than I'd been having with D4 in months.
But why. Is it the campaign, end game? Burnout?
@ZeonEons it's people expecting every game to be a 10'000hr void-filler to make their life less miserable apparently ^^
@@thebiitz Haha yep seems that way
@@thebiitz ? D4 was objectively terrible. It was a 6/10 at BEST and anyone that has eyes knows that lol. There is no use defending it.
Try Project Diablo 2
The hatred rising is true in Blizzard's case.
Sadly the majority of people are blizzard suckers, almost nothing will change
They can thank themselves for everything. Old titles from decades ago and nostalgia is the only thing that carries this company by now. If they don't wake up and start to actually make good products again FOR THE PLAYERS with a better customer support they might end up as the next Ubisoft in a few years.
@@dougfaxif that were true, they would still be independent. The only reason it still exists is because MS bought them.
seriously people, stop getting hype over blizzard releases. They haven't shown up since the original Overwatch 9 years ago. How bad do they have to prove they are before people stop buying their games? Big whoop you had fun on WoW 20 years ago and you went to blizzcon with your buddies. That Blizzard is long gone. Stop living in the past and stop wasting your money.
@supermelonbread yeah overwatch was amazing it's sad how they ruined the whole franchise.
So D4 cucked everybody who bought it for $100 + expansions LMAO !
Edit: Apparently it's only a free trial up to level 25. You still have to pay for the game and expansions.
yup..... same as bungie did with Destiny2.....
That good faith has trully run dry
Non one gives a 5hit about blizzard anymore
Never ever regretted buying a game this much.
@@IdocarebutIdontsame dude. Can’t believe I paid for this for it to then be free
It's a trial and you can only get your spiritborn up to level 25
Blizzard has had a huge lack of innovation across all their titles. They stick to the same shit and hope it keeps selling because they don't want to take risks.
You’re correct every franchise has been destroyed by them. They stopped innovating after World of Warcraft.
23:50 thing is, we are coming full circle. the gaming industry began as gamers making games for other gamers, simply because it was a niche activity some 3 decades ago for an adult and no one else got interested into it once they grew up. people who learnt how to make games were people who loved them. then the industry grew and became literally the most profitable media in the world, surpassing even cinema. which means we then got the attention of investors, and publishers either became or were bought by corporations. and they used every behavioural psychology trick in the book to ever cut production costs and raise profits. games became purely products, and not a form of art too anymore, for these corporations. people began to study and graduate on game development without having any particular passion or exceptionality. they were taught how to develp products, not games. they weren't taught to make gameplay that people loves, they were taught how to tap into addictive triggers and maximize player retention. not aesthetics that impresses and inspires, but that fits the current discourse and that never provokes, that has no "edge" (have you ever wondered why horror elements has simply been slowly vanishing since gaming became mainstream???). no maturity and critical thinking, for it would reduce product accessibility and reduce potential market. have you seen ubi devs saying that elden ring had bad gaming design? UBISOFT DEVS??? yes, I know it sounds terrible. but all of this worked. it worked outstandingly well for them, for a looong time. but thing is, you can only strong arm your domestic market with marketing and media brainwashing, buying and corrupting promising studios and etc. eventually, other markets would develop their gaming industry and also reach a "gaming golden age", too. and in a globalized world, you can't impede them just obliterating your sandcastle, forced market. this time is coming. but I don't think it will be the end of blizzards and ubis. they'll just get competition, but it's not the end of the world for them... sadly.
What happens after the market for the whole world peaks and becomes corporatized?
My take: gamers used to be devs. So they knew what to produce as they wanted the same things as their consumers wanted. Now, devs are primarily activists and/or DEI hire, and I'll add in corporate slaves as well. The passion is lost when when the wrong people are in positions they shouldn't be in 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I think a lot of it is marketing departments. They’re in charge, while devs used to be in charge. Marketing is trying to make it appeal to the greatest number of people while devs are trying to make a good game for the people who are going to buy it.
Yes I agree, but I think you meant to say “devs used to be gamers” and not the other way around 😅
Once upon a time game dev studios was a DnD party coding a game they eanted to play themselves inaide thebgarage of one of their mom's house. Now its thousamds of people who just cashing in a paycheck
I would argue this is mostly due to how much the industry has grown (to be one of the biggest ones there is)... so it now appeals to people looking for money; when back in the day it was more of an artist's choice to work on a sub-par industry creating stuff they liked.
I got a friend, that kinda wants to make videogames (I been creating video-game related content as a hobbie since forever myself, even if not seriously and I slack a lot), and when he talks to me about that; he always asks about what's popular, what sells and that kind of stuff... He will wonder about how to monetize the game without even knowing what game he "wants" to make or even it's genre... >_
@@KaemonarchI think the biggest problem with games right now is like the other person said activists, I say that bc several games including a recent one avowed, kinda showed they didn't care about money, there's alot of games taking a hit and it's all bc these new devs don't know how to not be some sort of activist and I also blame alot of colleges for this bc they have become birthers of these devs, Matt hansen as example hit the nuclear button on his career
I knew I was right about “waiting for a discount.” Still not playing it though.
😂😂
you're so focused on "money" aspect you've completely ignored "time" aspect
still not worth it
D4 sucks, do not play it.
"Don't you guys have phones?" was the final shovel of dirt on the grave of Blizzard for me. We'll never see a late 90s early 2000s Blizzard quality again.
I was tight about "this beta sucks. Pass."
Big companies attract people who are not very passionate about the games, they just go there for money. I bet that today the only truly passionate people in blizzard are some random developers at low level who have nothing to say how the games are being developed.
Yes this, generics
Nah. There are die hards there. Theyre just blind ants being taken advantage of.
Blizzard pays like below average for the area 😅
Or atleast they manage to slip in some old lore with mesheif and watch the rest of the project be mutilated into a monster. Wtf was durial even up2 what was the titan before lilith? No context, barely any old lore, weak cutscenes, repetitive gameplay, items that CONSTANTLY out date and need to be swapped. How did it fail?
Preach brother!
When you got the Lich King to hate WoW you should know there's a problem
time has become more valuable to gamers as the main currency than money. as many have said, with so many games out, and less and less time for many, Blizzard thinking people will still dump hundreds of mindless hours into D4 are clueless.
"I've seen ads for Raid:Shadow Legends that glaze the game less" is truly a testament to just how far they've fallen
The Diablo II we got was not the version that the original Developers made. The Developers that made Diablo 1&2 were shafted by Vivendi when they presented their version of Diablo III, and eventually left the company. Two or the founders of Condor Games (Blizzard North) went on to make Torchlight 1&2, and the third founder went on to work on Path of Exile!
The original version of Diablo 2 is a horrible experience.
I have no doubt their version of Diablo 3 was total ass.
Torchlight 1/2 were very boring and had some of the problems of D2.
PoE had all the problems D2 had which made me hate D2.
And the founders who went on to make Hellgate London brought all the problems of D1/2 to Hellgate London and made that game ass as well.
@@GeorgeMonet 😂😅 serious cope going on from the wokey
@@GeorgeMonetdid you actually play D2 at launch back in 2000?
D2 was groundbreaking, there was nothing near it at the time. LoD just made it more legendary.
D2 is a 24 years old game and is still better in MANY aspects over contemporary A-RPG.
D4 is a pale “cash cow” shadow near it.
D2 has:
- better story
- better campaign
- cube recipes
- real rune system
- far better skill tree
- far greater replay value
And it had no need for “endgame” stuff.
D4 has graphics and “mtx shop, battle pass” - for near 100USD.
@@auladadavamosemboraDiablo 2 even has better cutscenes than Diablo 3 or 4
My dad died last yr and growing up we use to play Diablo 2 together.good times. Rip…
Rip
Keep the memory alive! That's awesome.
Rip
Dont care sho sho
@@Gdg195hopefully u step on a leggo
Blizzard should've called Diablo 4 Lilith instead because it's not a Diablo game if Diablo isn't the main games last boss.
Beat me to it, they might as well called diablo immortal part 4.
A few months ago there was a free weekend for D4. "Play for free all weekend!". I tried and guess what. I reached lvl 20 in a few hours and the game stops being free. So actually it should sound like this "Play for free all weekend until you reach lvl20!"
I got baited into buying the highest price edition of d4 at the release. I still regret it today.
yo man I got a bridge to sell you, wanna buy it?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i bought it on xbox and again on steam 🤡🤡
i did the same but it was d3 instead. last game i ever bought.
You didnt get baited. You lack self control and made the purchase
I'm sorry that happened bro
I wish PoE 2 had a Paladin just to piss on Diablo more
i mean you can do a guardian or inquisitior lol
When the templar class comes out it will.
Templar is coming to PoE2....so basically paladin. So, wish granted
@@captainchonk3358 templar is not in EA
@@irishsage2459 The themeing of the Templar is also really on point. They can utilize skills like Consecrated Path, Holy Flame Totem (which really is more than just a flame totem), and in some builds Righteous Fire. Ofc in poe (more so than poe2) any class can use any skill, but the Inquisitor ascendancy uniquely can create a Consecrated Ground Effect that not only is buffed but is created when stationary (which can happen quite often for certain builds that cast while standing still).
People still play D4? I thought everyone realised when they made SpiritBorn so OP and money gated that Blizzard will never change
I don't think Blizzard is incapable of making great games but they design them solely to get the max amount of players and hook those players into DLC, which is basically a subscription model. D4 is like every Netflix movie now, just good enough to look like a good game, but in the end has a mindless plot that goes no where and is empty at the core.
0:35 Wukong was 60€ as well and had the most Players on Steam ever if you don't count PUGB which only has the Top due to that one Event they did but Wukong had *triple* that of Elden Ring and Baldurs Gate III in player-count and it still has almost 100k active Players daily
Let’s not disrespect PUBG, that game was goated at the time, was like $35 and had 3m concurrent like 6 yrs ago
PoE2 early access has at least 5 times as much content as D4 plus Expansion plus all 6-7 seasons combined IMO. There is no way back for D4 now.
And it's still only half the game
Theyre gonna start offering lobster skins for free now
. 1/6th by my opinion think about weapons classes 3 extra chapters of campain and some extra staff to the map. And dlc because they want keep people in so they can have their microtransaction.
And we don't even have Druid class yet.
Where? Im in love with poe 2, but calm down bro, there is only 3 acts and a mapping system to repeat in poe 2....
I didn't get D4 because it has no offline only mode and requires the internet to play 1 player. 1 player mode should never require internet.
Blizzard does not appreciate you owning their game.
I didn't get D4 for many reasons
Thank you!
GD and LE got this feature.
POE1-2 is also only online.
I have uninstalled the battle net since wc3 reforged. I am enjoying their downhill.
Diablo 4 is dead
Tbfh they had like 18 months to fix the game
Yeah, at this point i think Blizzard would abandon D4 since diablo immortal outperform it as well
This time for sure! Ladt chance!
NEVER BORN 😂😂😂
This game feels more like a Diablo game than Diablo. Not trying to troll either. Coming from a D2 fan, I did enjoy D4, but they definitely went down a different path that feels so far from their core roots
Poe 2 bosses are in a league of their own, the quality that each boss has is so good and unique and what's crazy we are only playing half of the game right now in early access
It’s not that the studios you mentioned (Larian, Fromsoft, GGG etc…) are more technically skilled, although you could make that argument, it’s that they’re clearly passionate about their games. It’s not just a paycheck for them. They love their products and their community and want them to be successful and fun.
The AAA’s are just soulless cash grabs at this point.
The time you spend FREE on D4...
You could be instead "GETTN GOOD on PoE 2!!"
FACTS💯
And next season it resets because devs are lazy. Hard pass.
@@jcondo82😂 emotional little guy
@@TeamSevenStarlol, if you think that is emotional, don’t ever get a girlfriend 🤣
The funny thing to me, is that the reason I quit playing D4 was because I didn’t have enough bag space and I hated doing inventory management every 5 minutes… and that is basically POE2’s entire monetization structure.
But in poe if you spent a full game price on stashes you are good for life. Even the 300 points from 30€ EA access is probably enough
Bag space is a big headache in poe2. Pick up 3 items and bag is full
Dude, PoE 2 has the worst inventory management i've ever seen.
@@monsieurbreakdown4814 man, in poe we dont pick up every item drop on ground :V not like D4 just pick up everything and hope for a good one. We craft it from white quality to godlike item. Because item modifiler in poe is good, we just basicly inden a item and know it good or bad in 1s. And drop it. You dont have to keep everything useless in your inventory. Just go buy it from another one ( we have trade, every thing can be trade )
If your bag is too full, you’re picking up too much, as others have said loot is very different from Diablo. As for stashes, you have plenty to complete the campaign and do a few maps, I think it’s completely fair to drop $60 at the point and be good forever.
Just make all blizzard games free to play
They should be, they all have microtransactions in them
Starcraft 2 wol is free.
@@RisenOswald thx for the info, i liked that game. Will recommend to friends
It's not the first time they make the game free2play for a short period, also again with the Steam numbers, baldie doesn't want to understand that 90% of Diablo players play via Battlenet and consoles, it appears that this is a hard concept for Asmongold. if 2k new players joined via Steam, that means in reality there are around 10k new players that are testing now for free.
Bought D4 at launch, spent $100 CAD. Fast forward through four very lack luster "seasons" and they ask their players to BUY AN EXPANSION THAT COST THE SAME AS THE BASE GAME. That's where I hopped off. No thanks, why the fuck do I need to spend another $100 on a game that hasn't proved to me it was worth the FIRST hundred I spent on it.
The expansion was 40 dollars
Lol d4 is still around?
I was worried when they announced D4 because diablo 3 was made too simple, and the story loop was horrible. How could they make it even simpler? you get Diablo immortal.
Lol, Blizzard is still around?
Yeah, still fun
they need to get rid of that skill twig it's an embarrassment to arpgs
I legit forgot D4 still existed until this video randomly popped up in my recommended.
I bought the collector’s edition of D4, felt scammed ngl.
Same
POE 2 will heal your pain.
LMAOOOO
It's legit the only purchase I ever regretted. They lied and scammed so hard, poe2 in early access is more finished then D4 even with an expansion
Blizzard. Scamming players since overwatch!
can't believe I bought the 100 euro pre release, and only played for like 3 weeks
I never pre order usually, and this only cemented that sentiment
they only ask for 100e because people like you pay for it
Stop lying you'll jump on the bandwagon again for diablo 5 O.O1 seconds after the first trailer comes out
@@paulleonard7038people are always one trailer away to simp again
Your part of the problem dude. Have better self control. Forking over that much money for 3 days early is fucking baffling to me
At this point, you can safely refer to POE 1 as the actual Diablo 3, and POE 2 Diablo 4.
Diablo 4 started being assembled from Diablo Imoral and D3 and D2R assets the next day after "Is this an out of season April Fools joke?" at the Diablo imoral's reveal.
What means D4?
- Dumb for.
Done for*
It's also a dice you throw it has only 4 sides. You also have D6 20 and more you usually find these in DnD games
I went back and played D4 for about 30 minutes last night and it’s insane how much better POE 2 is. I’m a casual gamer and get to play maybe 5 or 6 hours a week and I enjoyed my time with D4 but the obvious quality difference between D4 and POE2 is insane. The bosses alone are far superior in POE2.
Welcome to PoE
I found the initial asking price for D4 (base game + season pass) WAY too steep, so I didn't bother.
No regrets.
Same, and since d3 wasnt that good either, i had no hurry to get it.
@knuterthal5131 Yeah D3 was a snooze-fest.
I gave d4 a fair chance, but no way in hell were they gonna fool me into buying that expansion
If Concord was F2P, it would've still died. It might have stayed on life support longer, but after Rivals, it would've fell off completely.
Actively playing D2 to this day. They never made a sequel so I keep playing it.
Shouldnt have even been a full feature game should have just been a d3 expansion
They paid Rhyyker to do commercials on TH-cam. They pop up on POE2 videos all the time. lol
The only Rhyker Ad I've seen lately is for "Go Go Muffin" 😂
Rhyker is a company bootlicker. probably did it for free.
I spent $100 for Diablo 4 was so hyped for it, right before season 1 I had already put in 439 hours…. Then the patch right before season 1 happened, haven’t played it since. NEVER EVER will buy anything BLIZZARD again.
That patch is when I quit too 😭
Dude you got 400 hours from d4
Yes, you will stop the cap.
Within the first couple hours of playing PoE2 I remember telling myself this feels so much like D2... the excitement to get drops, the adventure in exploring and finding the little side quest bosses, looking in every corner of the map and destroying all the destroyable environment. PoE2 truly is what I hoped D4 would have been.
Poe2 act 1 endgame boss is true cinema. Been playing since 90s and it was the first time in a long time I said holy shit this is truly a masterpiece.
Blizzard didn't make Diablo what it was, so it was never a surprise that they couldn't mimic it's success once the people who made the game left the company. I don't know why consumers have a hard time realizing this. 1 man at Blizzard saved Diablo 3 and I'm not even sure if he still even works there.
D4 was doomed the day POE2 came out. No, it was doomed when it released.
D4 is the diablo killer
D4 was doomed when Blizzard decided to get rid of Blizzard North. That killed the Diablo franchise.
A doomed game that made over a billion... delusional
It was doomed the day poe 2 reveal its gameplay preview
It was doomed, by making several times more money than GGG's made in its entire lifetime (by the way, they lost more than half their revenue this year), and having a concurrent playerbase of 3 million, post-player drop, to PoE *and* PoE 2's combined 400k (which is generous since it's almost entirely double-dipping)? I too love making my own reality so I can pretend we gauge game success with golf rules so smaller numbers are better than bigger numbers.
I didn’t think it’s possible that I’d say this, but: Playing D4 feels less rewarding than D3. Meanwhile D3 is a 10 hour gameplay per season tops.
And PoE is 0 hour gameplay per season.
@@GeorgeMonetcringe
I did enjoy D4 but them not providing a compelling expansion with no paladin killed it for me.
I am 140 hours in poe2 and there is stuff i still want to do at level 90 get better gear unlock the endgame bosses etc.
D4 it just feels the same all the way no real chase items that change your game doing the same boss at t4 for the same loot get boring quick.
Poe2 is what we wanted diablo 3 to be after diablo 2.
What are we kidding ourselves, the article is probably written entirely with ChatGPT, with Rod writing the command prompt to the AI.
I don't consider myself a hardcore arpg fan but I was so close to buy Diablo 4 because it has gone on discount so many times... im just so glad I waited for POE 2. It's hard and irritating especially as an evasion monk but the gameplay, mechanics, and boss fights makes me want to keep playing it and its just early access! $30 is inexpensive for a game like this, I can't even believe that the game will be free in a few months. Its an amazing game and I recommend it to anyone. I generally don't enjoy single player games but this game is incredible and fun without other players so if you have friends to play with, its going to be an absolute blast.
I don't know why they didn't add a Paladin/Crusader to diablo 4 lol. It wouldn't have saved the game but they are a staple of the diablo universe. They had them in the d4 cinematics lol
People that work there these days does not like any organized religion and it is reflected in their writings. They did not even attempt to write it even handedly
Meanwhile spiritborn feels like it's from the wrong universe entirely
@@Ozzystrayroo alright, time to remove your tin foil hat. your statement is a bit farfetched. they literally have an organized religious army following Inarius. High Heavens vs. Hell? seems religious to me since D1. lol
@@timtom4300 It really doesn't if you ever read Diablo lore. Spiritborn adjacent stuff has existed since basically the beginning, and Necromancer and Witch Doctor lore is heavily intersected with it.
@@khmer5o3 it has underlying religious theme on the previous game before because the people that created the classics still care and does not have deep seated grudge againts religion. Even if some of them were agnostic or atheistic they are still able to keep their personal view in check to potray it evenly of the good and bad value about religions.
These days i saw only them potraying the bad side almost exclusively without even talking or considering the good value that is present in organized religion especially in AAA western games.
And i am saying all of this as an agnostic person myself, man.
I'm an old guy, the whole season thing in arpgs isnt for me. I want to endlessly progress the same character in my own tempo...........does that even still exist?
Just play standard.
Diablo Immortal's announcement was foreshadowing for decision making on Diablo 4. We felt it but we didn't really know it at the time.
I don't think i would play d4 even if Blizzard paid players to do it. Sorry im just that disgusted by modern blizzard.
same
well... depends how much they wanna pay me I guess xD
D4 was the last chance I gave to Blizzard. I havent bought anything Blizzard after 2010 I made a big exception for D4 because the new artstyle after the appaling D3 Comic Style made me think they disregarded D3 and tried to improve on D2 formula. But actually it was just a trick. So yeah nomore Blizzard games ever again. Will wait until Blizzard falls apart and Microsoft sells of the IP to someone capable.
Same even for money it should be a chore to play that smarphone unachieved and brainless game.
I know people 60k deep in march of empires or rise of kingdoms. They even buy resources from players who stack and sell
chillllll
@aohjii Facts is facts 🤣
12:45 My Christmas gift to myself was some stash tabs in Poe1 after getting back into the game after a long time (whenever the boat character screen was new). So I went on the shop and saw that there was a deal to get early access Poe2 and the equivalent $ in shop currency. A couple hours later I go to try out Poe2 only to discover the shop is shared between the two games! This reminds me of something that old pc developers like Blizzard would do years ago. Its a pity the games are so different because my hard drive is nearly maxxed out on Spirit.
bruh yall pay for stuff blizzard has in game already lmao its hilarious
@nasamcmahon at least the game is free.. not like spiritborn and runes and a targeted farming dungeon locked behind an expansion. Blizzard sucks at its core nowadays.
Thanks for showcasing my fellow South African streamer (AccolonnTV) on your stream Zack! He's a really nice guy and the sound of reason where we come from.
19:22 I thought this was the exact reason Asmon was swinging a sword around in his yard😂
Buying d4 îs the worst game purchase în my life...
That's what I thought with D3 then I have found Path of Exile was free to play and started to boycott Blizzard.
@senzosanjuro1769 tbf D3 îs miles above d4.
Now im fully pissed i paid for diablo at launch 😑
Poe2 > diablo 4
Rivals > ow2
What next?
I hope: Something > Wow (if FF XIV has not done that already)
My issue with D4 as a non seasonal player was having to regear, particularly reacquire uniques, three times that I spent hundreds of hours to obtain.
Well, as an exile-like game it makes sense for them to incorporate f2p.
I spent a couple hundred hours on D4 and on pace to do the same with PoE2. Recency bias aside I don't regret my time playing PoE2.
I think the fact that D4 released with that inventory bug that loaded everyone's inventory in your game or whatever it was, was the biggest blunder and overlooked bug I've ever seen.
Path is okay for me but i really dislike the looting there. I rarely find something helpful while leveling. The craftable affixes are so stupidly random, it's annoying.
Mark of a good ARPG? When loot falls on the ground in PoE2, I get excited about it. When loot drops on the ground in Project Diablo 2, I get excited about it. When loot drops on the ground in Diablo 4, I barely can be bothered to pick it up even if it makes the number go up.
Project D2 best thing that could happen to diablo 2.
@@dreqstar Damn straight.
D4 -> POE/2
OW -> Marvel Rivals
Heartstone - basically dead
Heroes of the storm - shutdown already? idek, dead
WoW - long past its glory (released 2004 - 20 years ago)
I know that Blizzard got acquired by Activision but it seems to me theyre running low on just like games or playerbase... if this was a restaurant this would be a horrible menu to chose from
Pokemon tgc instead of heartstone.
Hots is still getting small patches now and then, doubt blizzard will ever actually pull the plug on it and do a complete shutdown
D4 -> Poe 2 ?! 🙃 Lol ! Better you continue to play Blizz brainless games 😅
People forget rivals has console, and is on epic games too. This number is wrong
Yeah can't rely solely on steam charts it's annoying they don't mention other numbers.
@@gamingedition5165 to be fair, D4 was on consoles too
@@gamingedition5165where would we get other numbers though? It’s like consoles and epic store aren’t transparent…
I paid 90€ for D4 is one of my worst decisions in Last decade. I decided i will never get sammed by Blizzard again.
Can you all just stop paying for Blizzard products? I've stopped 4 years ago and still sober from blizzard's nonsense. Honestly you players are to blame for still buying blizzards shit garbage products
Not just 30 dollars most of us bought packs over 100 dollars absolutely insane numbers they made on early access
So many of us were warning people like you. Will you never learn :(
@@Globalgenocide brother poe players will always buy the big packs poe1 has had them for years and its always worth
@@Globalgenocidehey means most fans of poe spend more than the 30 for poe2 ea, so ggg made way more money than asmon thinks. And i have to say, even as a first time player on poe2, i bought the 30 pack for access, played a few more hours and upgraded to the full 480 pack. Mainly for the art book, but still. I instantly new, poe2 is the only game i will play in the next years.
@@Globalgenocide bro I will probably play this game for a decade I don't see the problem ??
Nobody force you to buy supporter pack 😑
Since Elon Musk ranked number 1 on diablo maybe he should bye blizzard and Make Games Great Again. Lol
Too expensive now that Microsoft is sitting on top of Activblizzard
Elon plays Poe2 now. No need to buy blizzard when GGG makes great games for free
@@Ozzystrayroo even better. Buy Microsoft as the actual value and get Blizzard ontop to slap them into form😂
@@crosis2 man...elon buying microsoft would be huge. We might have good windows os again, not to mention all the other studios that MS has been collectinh over the years like bethesda, obsidian, 343, to name a few
Why pay for a game more than once.
Main issue I had with D4 story was that your allies were very incompetent and some of them were even annoying. And the ending where you let a child run away with Mephisto made no sense.
You'd have to pay me to play Diablo 4.
1. Buying D4 was the worst financial decision that I made in my entire life.
2. Diablo franchise already died with d3. D4 further cemented its death. D2r is an exception though.
you must not be married LOL
I remember when I was 13. The anti-D4 crowd needs to touch grass. I've paid full price for games that I've never played. I guarantee you had at least an hour of fun with D4 even if it was the first hour.
@@mistere5857"I've paid full price for games I've never played."
I don't think this is the own you believe it to be.
@@toby2581 Literally comparing bad financial decisions. Paying full price for a game and not playing a single minute of it is far worse than paying full price for a game, playing it for 4 hours, and realizing you don't like it. Infinitely worse, mathematically speaking.
@@mistere5857 So you make even worse choices than the OP and it's everyone else who needs to touch grass. Okay.
Why waste your time on D4 when you can play actual fun Action RPGs like PoE2, Grim Dawn or Last Epoch?
Grim Dawn doesn’t get talked about enough. It’s such a fun ARPG.
@Breadddward yeah! Can't wait for new expansion
@@Breadddward Is it really good? I was thinking about buying it on Steam. There's a massive sale on it rn.
@@Breadddwardmost people who are arpg enthusiasts mentioned it quite often
It's always known to be a good game. Even if the visual is just okay at best.
Last Epoch yes.
PoE2 not yet. PoE2 is what people said about D4. Its a good skeleton to build upon.
But it has way way way too many issues right now for it to be consistently enjoyable over an extended period of time
they neeed to pay raxx, asmon, rob, wwudi, ryker, dm, sammy caps at least 1.5m usd to get in a room and design D4 2.0 or D5
No, diablo had its chance. Blizzard will make it good to draw people in, then turn it into a micro transaction dumpster fire the moment they get everyone back. Let the company turn so other more decent companies are allowed to grow.
Nah, it's done :(
This wouldn't solve anything.
They are too greedy to pay AND listen to their advices instead of marketing
i logged into diablo 4 at launch, and resistances were in the game but gave you zero defensive benefits and still took up slots on your items while crafting, and then blizzard removed 75% of armors effect. I killed uber lilith on a 14 damage druid with no s and then uninstalled the game after standing in town on the lilith mount with the butchers barding for an hour so the casuals would see what they could never accomplish.
20:37 I came back for War Within. and i don't regret paying for the expansions since i had a few weeks of fun.
But then the next major patch was announced, and i saw the list of stuff you had to do to get the better gear, the next shiny ring, the next currency... and i just figured that it was now a good time to stop playing again.
They didn’t just charge you $30 for early access; they also gave you $30 worth of in-game currency. Big W GGG
I bought diablo 4 on steam 70$. then wanted to play it on Xbox but u have to buy it there too means another 70$ gone. I was normaly used to play Blizzard games on Battlenet but that would cost another 70$ im already at 140$ bro fuck Blizzard what else can i say