How Girls und Panzer is BETTER than Fury
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ม.ค. 2021
- Been tossing this video idea around in my head for awhile and finally decided to try to explain my opinion on this. Obviously this could be a VERY controversial video but please remember this is my opinion and I BY NO MEANS think Fury is a bad movie.
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To answer a few questions I'm sure quite a few people will ask before the fill the comments:
1) The background footage is from Girls und Panzer Dream Tank Match
2) I'm not an Uber fan of GuP I just appreciate what it does for the Tank community
3) The Cone standing in the corner is to hopefully prevent the automatic ID system to detect the small clips I used for reference since it IS fair use for this purpose but could still get flagged (fingers crossed)
Hopefully you guys enjoy this video and if you want to suggest movies for me to potentially make a video like this about in the future comment them below.
This is true in many ways
i don't get why people think it's fake, Tanks *_CAN DRIFT_* A'ight? it needs a PRO driver, but it's possible,
T-34 better than Girls und Panzer
I think the Russian film, T-34 shows that dynamic between the different crews in a few of the scenes, such as the opening tank battle and the latter one. Although the Germans aren’t always getting their forefront distinction, they show it nonetheless. Also a great film for CGI stuff as well. Looks really damn good
@@rebuffcard12 highly agreed mate I mean what shit gup Is when you got T-34 to watch
they show Ferdinand climbing a hill. Their imagination sure is high
Didn't it also get bogged down in the mud and explode?
Now that's what I call impossible.
@@dsdy1205 i don't remember that but it might have happened because i sure do remember the porsche tiger burning out of nowhere and the mechanics explaining that the engine was not good enough or something like that
@@Frank-qn7de yeah so they did some serious upgrade to reach MBT speeds shown later in the anime
@@dsdy1205 Yea, on the test drive after getting it out of the ship's belly, the engine started burning after it sank into the mud.
Fury is when you're feeling like a cynical edgelord.
GuP is when you wanna watch "WoT: the Anime"
Or War Thunder AB movie.
If you know what I mean.
@@randomt-9034 ah 57 km/h PZIV
It's more like war thunder arcade physics
@@chloe_gospinny 'deja vu r3 20 intensifies'
@@janburja6890 Low tier M22, M2A4, BT-5, BT-7 *intensifies.
You've made a huge mistake. I hoped to avoid the weeb title too, but it's a lie you tell yourself hoping it won't come to pass, but it's already too late. Welcome to the brotherhood of reluctant weeb labeled channels.
What makes you think I was trying to avoid it?
When r u going to make ep 2 and 3 of the das finale. The Australians has a koala for a Commander for pete's sake
Fucking weebs
-a fucking weeb
And a history student. Love the channels. Keep going.
NO. WAIT. THIS IS MY OPORTUNITY.
PLAY PANZERMADELS I BEG YOU TWO.
@@ConeOfArc FUCKIN WEEEEEEB
Anime must be destroyed.
(JK)
How to make good manga
Step 1:learn to draw
Step 2:draw cute girl
Step 3:add some German tanks
Step 4:???
Step 5:profit!
The forth step is Tokyo drift
*Nazism*
Ah yes
we already know step 4 is for something else
step4: rule34
*Weeb Wednesday Fans*
"Allow us to introduce ourselves back to cone"
Very well
Its Walter White Wednesday Week 13
@@smlik ikr 🤣
@@smlik no
@@smlik Normies: think that's an insult
Weeblets: get insulted and sulk offended in a corner
Real weebs: "Yeah, it's trash.... And so am I"
I'm majoring as a history teacher (hoping to have my diploma next year) and I have been teaching high school kids and even some older ones for the last three years during internships. The hardest part is really to make it interesting for them. It doesn't take long for kids to question you why they are learning history and about dead people, like it doesn't matter to them.
One of the best moments I had was when I was teaching a class about the 2nd World War and I had brought a few items along to show them. The boys of course were interested in my M1905 bayonet (the long boi) that I brought with me, because it's a weapon. However before that class I came with the idea to buy a can of Fanta from the vending machine in the school. This was the item they were most interested in. Of course I asked them what they thought Fanta had to do with World War II. They partially got it right by saying it was something that existed during World War II and was drunken by soldiers. When I told them the story of how and why it was invented by Nazi-Germany, they got hooked into the story. It really shows that there is a certain connection you need to make between history and the current day, in this case a historical and current day every day object.
The best part came when at the end of class one student asked if he could have the can of Fanta. He asked it nicely so I gave it to him. While I was cleaning up the desk after class and students left the classroom I suddenly heard: "I GOT A CAN OF NAZI SODA!" From the hallway. It had me laughing and told me I did a good job.
I am a god of destruction in history
Well then you could tell about Pepsi buy The Soviet Navy
What a nice teacher
Bruh, if you teach ww2 to me I'll be listening for hours non end
I'm 13
True, my history teacher often include some small interesting tit bit along the subject
I love that teacher
I introduced my sister to this Anime, and after 10 days, I caught her printing wallpaper of different tanks and keeping them in a folder,
So I guess what you said is correct, this show does create curiosity in someone who is unaware of it,
A month after that, My sister started playing War Thunder,
Also, she gave a presentation on Mariya Oktyabrskaya "Fighting Girlfriend", a woman tank driver and her crew, on woman's day,
Yo that's cool
@@drlaznug310 based sister
This made me smile so hard thats awesome
This comment further supports the fact that we need to introduce Senshado to all high schools
Oh...Fighting Girlfriend...I forgot all about that story
"Kids don't really care."
Me who could say _Panzerkampfwagen_ _VI_ _Ausführung_ _B_ _Königstiger_ literally 10 seconds after birth: *ok* *then*
Well I can say _Sturmpanzerwagen Allgemeines Kriegsdepartement, Abteilung Sieben Verkehrswesen, Messerschmitt Aktiengesellschaft Bayerische Flugzeugwerke 109 Flugabwehrkanone Panzerkampfwagen IV Ostwind Sonderkraftfahrzeug 161/4 Sturmgeschütz III Ausführung A gepanzerte selbstfahrlafette für sturmgeschütz 7.5 zentimeter Kampfwagenkanone ausführung A Sonderkraftfahrzeug 142 Sturzkampfflugzeug verband im angriff auf Bolschewistische panzer truppen ansammlungen_ when I was in my mom's womb
@@tardarsauce1842 How about something challenging next time.
@tdkl what type of alfebet soup tank is that?
@tdkl ah thank you.
@@liams8454 also known as the puma, at least in the game War Thunder
GuP owns the inaccuracies and cranks them to 11 for entertainment's sake. Fury just gets shit wrong. Simple as that.
@The Yangem PZIV drifting and hits the Tiger's 80 mm rear
@@marseldagistani1989 bruh. The Maus Hunt.
@@archwaldo that shit is way more entertaining than seeing a sherman tank a 88 at its side
@@eduardobullen7473 Well it's totally gay for most non weebs
Make sense
"Im removing the speed limiter"
"deja vu starts"
Yo she turned on ludicrous mode like a Tesla.
Look closely at that scene, that Tiger somehow had VTOL feature too.
The Panther did actually have rev limiter...
You actually could drift tank, but on ice and with modern tanks.
What I learned from GuP:
1) KV-2 can be loaded by a girl who weighs less than the shell
2) Tiger ! can go more than 45 minutes before blowing a transmission
3) Japanese tankers were all about the banzai charge.
Tiger I could go for far longer (ask Otto Carius). It was the Tiger II that had such problems, *and you DO learn in GuP that the broken steel roadwheel can be rolled uphill by a single ponytailed schoolgirl at running speed so they can get it repaired in five minutes.* ;-)
What you learn about the Tiger I is that *it could traverse its turret 120 deegres in three seconds.*
Also, we learn that *Char B1 can sustain (not just "reach") 20 Km/h off road.*
The moar you know.
@@notfeedynotlazy Is P
@@Randomvietnamdude not P, H (ep. 12)
@@notfeedynotlazy I mean the tiger that blow up the transmission within that anime is a Tiger P
One of the things not mentioned related to the accuracy of the tanks, probably due to Cone not being a megafan of GuP, is that Actas, the animation studio, worked with wargaming to produce the models. This is most apparent in der Film's credits, where wargaming has their own section of people.
No wonder it looks like a World of Tanks anime
😮
Yes and no. They only worked with WoT AFTER the initial anime had already been released. They collaborated on subsequent project namely Das Finale. But the initial anime was a independent and original(not adapted from a manga).
"You have to find some way of making history interesting because kids really don't care."
Sabaton: "Hello there"
IMPERIAL FORCE DEFIED, FACING 500 SAMURAI
@@TheDoctorFromArknights SURROUNDED AND OUTNUMBERED 60 TO 1 THE SWORD FACE THE GUN
THROUGH THE GATES OF HELL, AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO HEAVEN, THROUGH THE NAZI LINES!
PRIMO VICTORIA!
BISMARK IN MOTION, KING OF THE OCEAN, HE WAS MADE TO RULE THE SEVEN SEAS
THEY ARE THE PANZER ELITE BORN TO COMPLETE NEVER RETREAT GHOST DIVISION
Basically, "Girls und Panzer turns laymen who don't care that the tanks are going too fast into the guys who point out that the tanks are going too fast - because they looked it up themselves."
Well said
Which creates a domino effect
Rewatching GuP after you dig deep into tanks is hell of a trip.
thats how azur lane got me into ships
i cant look at ships the same again
I too
Now only to wait for a live-action battleship movie like fury for tanks.
I might look into azur lane. I like ships and I like some anime.
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Son come back from the abyss
As a tanker, I was so excited when Fury came out. I was hoping for a movie the showed the struggles and comraderie of a tank crew. While it did that to an extent, I felt it spent far too much energy being gritty and edgy, especially with that shitty breakfast scene.
GuP on the other hand does a phenomenal job of showing this. You get a feeling that the not only are the individual crews a family, but the entire team is a family similar to a real tank platoon or company (at least the good ones). That's probably why I enjoy GuP so much. The history nerdism, and the feel good nature that reminds me of the good ol days.
only movie i’ve seen that really captures that feeling is T-34, it’s in all russian with english subtitles but it shows the struggles of the crew
@@smashedcoconut7I love T34, great movie.
"More tanks always a good thing"
Soviet : Yes
URAAAA~~~😁
No clone could replace the real misaka
*laughs in t-34*
German tiger:I'm about to end this russian tanks whole carrier
@@soldiermark9059 *laughs in is2*
It’s an anime yet it’s more historically accurate than fury lmao
*flashes back to the clip of a hetzer jumping off a cliff into the barrel of a mörser karl*
Yeah not really
@@justmerc1642 Except that's funny. A Tiger crew as bad as the one seen in Fury is just annoying. I'm honestly convinced that Tiger crew was 2 Germans and 6 raccoons.
@@skyflaks6380 so a Sherman taking a 88mm ap shell to the side and not taking any serious damage is realistic or historically accurate?
It's more historical than the history channel XD
How do you know GuP is making weebs into history enthusiasts? Maybe it's making history enthusiasts into weebs.
It can work both ways, no problem with that :P
Would that be bad?
@@Maritimesgestein Wouldn't be good :(
@@dinoco3672 what do you mean? more people getting into History is always great!
@@Lewd-Tenant_Isan making people into weebs would be bad
hes not wrong at all. girls und panzer got me started playing world of tanks, then world of warships as a supertester, then warthunder. and reading massive amounts of history along the way to compliment the tanks and ships i was learning about. I would have likely never taken as deep an interest if not for randomly deciding to watch that silly anime with moe lolis driving tanks. lmao.
"Laugh in hetzer that can lift up maus"
Fr, the thing would be squished like a car in a monster truck rally
@@browniemix3187 no not a car , a TOY car "KEKW"
@@browniemix3187 definitely for anyone unaware the maus weighted about 189 tons
@@Skylikesavation Add crew, ammo and gas. Yes, very heavy, also they missed Maus size. Hetzer Is so small, but Maus wasn't that Big in GuP
Unless it had stronger armor
They even had Kelly hero’s showed in girl und panzer
Oddball best girl
Best thing is they also add the war music during their fights or marching like Erika and Panzerlied
They have one short story where the German school got disqualified because they brought m47 Patton to the match and Erika´s reasoning was: " They are Tiger tanks, dont you watch battle of Bulge?
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I appreciate this video, GuP sucked me into tanks in the First place.
Also Yukari is my spirit animal
A reference I understand
My favorites are Nonna & Mika.
Potential history is that you?
@@bryan3754 nah I'm the evil twin that does nothing
yukari is also my spirit animal.
7:19
Additionally, the crew positions are actually modelled as to how it would've been for the crew of the actual tanks. The best example os the M3 Lee, the Driver has to kind of lean to get a good view out of their viewing port. This was shown in the very first episode in the Ōarai vs St. Gloriana Exhibition Match, with the M3 Lee driver sitting not quite in-line with their viewing port.
"kids really don't care"
me : hoold up
Me who watches footage of machine guns mowing down people from wwll as a 7 year old: wait what
Edit, how did this stupid fact about me get likes?
Yeah its true
I barely paid attention to my middle school history class...
@@TheDaltonius lol me too
wait you're 7?
Kids don't care when you're trying to teach them.
But boy, did my 6+ year old self love late-night History channel.
@@DarkThunderism haha yes.. me too..
(im kinda dissapointed of the modern history channel talking about aliens)
when a Hetzer lifting up a Maus is more realistic than Fury
To avoid destroying the town they probably lighten the thing
still too heavy for a hetzer though
@@ZaHandle and impossible. I mean 188 tons? Even Other heavy Tanks can't do that Poop lmao
@@bluebud169 the plate of the hetzer is made of titanium maybe, to hold the nerf maus 😂
@@bluebud169 its KRUPP STEEL and made in Czechoslovakia so ofc its stronk XD. the KRUPP steel even got infused with plot armor too!
Well, at least the Hetzer isn't bearing the _entire_ weight of the Maus. The Maus still has its rear end -with the turret above it- on the ground.
“Kids don’t care about history”
Me who preferred to read world history atlases over hanging out with friends during highschool: pardon me?
Honestly, same.
ppl dont really care unless violence is involved
School history books kind of suck at my school, Honestly... I had to correct some of the teachers when they talked about tanks and such...
You are the .001% lol. I liked ancient history and mythology as a kid myself. Gave no fucks about anything more modern than like 1700 though
This
There's also the fact that the series is a comedy, some of the more outlandish scenes are hilarious.
Not just comedy. The series is a sports anime about a fictional martial art, but the follow-up movie is a straight-up WUXIA MOVIE (with tank martial arts instead of swodplay!). With every Wuxia cliche turned to eleven. INCLUDING THE IMPOSSIBLE JUMPS. Meaning that the outlandish scenes are even GENRE-ACCURATE.
The anime sets in a perfect balance between fiction and realism
honestly I was incredibly impressed with the accuracy of the show. It's not the technical accuracies like the "tank drifting" that matter, it's the spirit of it. It's the fact that they play to the historic strengths and weaknesses of the tanks, such as the Churchill's heavy armour or the KV-2s tendency to tip over on a slope, and throughout their stories constantly pepper in tidbits about what life was really like for tankers.
Also the research and clear love for the topic that goes into it. Like, if they need a big boss enemy, they won't just make something up, they'll find a REAL tank that was rare or experimental, and if they need to, say, fill a characters room or a cafe with tank memorabilia, they'll go out of their way to make sure that everything relates to something real, like a copy of a real life Tamiya model kit, or a specific type of tank shell
Like that bit in the first movie where the T-28 superheavy shows up. That thing put up some stakes.
@@highjumpstudios2384 That's a great example. Not only is it a good use of a rare tank, but the tank has one of those great moments where it demonstrates the features of the real tank in a fun way when they detach the outer tracks
@@pigpig252
I love that scene, but at the same time I was yelling that they should shoot the t28s tracks ffs
Funnily enough, Nicholas Moran got roped into their shenanigans.
It's possible to drift a tank, not a guess I've actually done it irl
Ah yes i see your a man of culture aswell.
Oh yes yes yes
I agree
*Insert War Thunder’s:”I Agree!”*
@@TheF-15EStrikeEagle Affirmative!
Ahh absolutely
Um... "Kelly's Heroes" is the best live-action tank movie ever made.
GuP drops a couple references to Kelly's Heroes. Some of the girls are watching it and the small scene is recreated frame-by-frame. Another reference, a student is caught spying on another school and introduces herself as Sargeant Oddball.
Knock it off with them negative waves 😎
@@md_vandenberg that’s one thing that made me fall in love with GUP even more when I saw one of my favorite war movies ever in it
The thing about the tank drifting scene is that it is, in fact possible to drift a tank. Perhaps not a WW2 tank, but it is possible to do with an M1 Abrams on sandy or snowy terrain. There's a video of US Marines doing it in Norway somewhere around here.
There are any number of videos of (probably drunk) Russian tankers drifting T-72s and T-90s both on tank roads in their training grounds and on city streets (sometimes with impressive amounts of collateral damage as a result).
Yukari is my animal spirit
She is OUR spirit animal.
Yukari is the dream girl for every history nerd
@@chechenfeels yes
@@chechenfeels yes
@@chechenfeels yes
It pleases tank enthusiasts by having a large variety of tanks and it pleases anime fans with cute girls driving them.
How could you hate it?
it's cringe
@@Colonel100 I see nothing wrong with this
Step 1: be feminist....
Someone ought to DERP the bronies.
@@phoenix1782 you're cringe
"Kids don't really care about history"
Me a 14 year old, and some of my friends who love history : Allow us to introduce ourselves.
I wish could talk about history to someone. My brother and sister call me weird for it
Me and my friend when the teacher says we can't explain how to reload a KV2 and a A7V Sturmpanzerwagen in 30 seconds without exiting the tank
I adore that someone your age cares about history, but please try not to consider this series as a shining example of it. It is essentially soft-core pornography :(
Sending a dozen roses to a pretty (Chinese? :) girl in your history class would be so much more meaningful to your coming of age, honey.
Challenger approaching sound
Hello there!
*my 1st computer game was stronghold: crusiad at age of 6
That's great dude, but you and your friends are an exception but not the rule.
Im not gonna lie: back when I was still watching anime this was one of my favourite ones. And exactly as described with the Maus scene, the fascination and urge to find out more about this tank has somehow led me to start playing WoT and after some time of playing that game and having finished watching the anime, I basically became obsessed with tanks and WW2 in general lmao
I actually got into tanks because of GuP. I can attest to what you’ve said: I knew basically nothing about tanks other than that the Tiger, Sherman, and T-34 existed. As a result of making the specific machinery stand out (many films use tanks merely as a plot device for the characters instead of as a draw of their own), I became interested in the tanks they used rather than just the story they’re used to tell. And I’ve become really into these tanks since watching the show. Keep up the good work!
You know nothing about tanks bro .
Stop waching anime is good for your brain and learn the real history of tanks
@@patrykpatryk3051 uhm, right. Because it's not like i watch gup but also have three Hunnicutt books and as soon as i finish "Pershing" i look forward to getting Can Openers. Right
If you watch any anime you must be dumb. Right.
@@patrykpatryk3051 Didnt even read the comment fully smh
@@patrykpatryk3051 mans didn't even read the damn comment correctly
@@patrykpatryk3051 should try taking an ESL class sometime, i might help you a lot
I read the title and thought “oh boy can’t wait to see the comment section.”
Me too. Absolutely me too.
Yeah same
Same. I love Girls und Panzer, it's really fun to see tanks and high school girls have fun.
*How the flex tape infomercial is better than endgame*
I believe we all agree that the BT-42 scene is the most realistic thing ever put to video.
When that scene is an accurate reference to the BT-7 jump just a little exaggerated
You are absolutely right. I have a degree in history and have always been fascinated by world war 2, but I've never really cared that much about the tanks... I'm an airplane and submarine guy... But this show is as fun as it is ridiculous in premise and it prompted me to start researching these vehicles and reading about the experiences of the guys that crewed them. It's pretty much my favorite anime these days.
The funny thing about gup is even with its inaccuracy's they are either small and dont matter that much like a name mistake, or its drifting a tank for shits and gigs. it still gets so much right, as a really cool guy put it its an anime for history buffs by history buffs
Not to mention the sound design is really good for a anime franchise, as its sometimes cut by using stock effects. Granted some are still used, but overall the original/close enough sounds are really good, like the the tracks, rounds bouncing, rounds hauling ass towards you. th-cam.com/video/8JTVJJyeYh4/w-d-xo.html (a good example)
Oh and the music is fucking amazing, especially in the movies. Shiro Hamaguchi put a lot of effort into making the songs feel full as possible, and even used some obscure songs from Italy and Japan (le fiamme nere, and March of Snow) which is nice to hear.
What is sad is that the albums are really hard to get In the states without paying a large premium.
In WT you can drift tanks too lmao
@@natedturtle I do it all the time, especially since the traction nerf that was placed
@@natedturtle Wt's funny like that
@@natedturtle you can do it in reality too but it definitely takes skill not to throw the track.
I love the GuP. They did a great job of showing the human aspect of tank crew and love the tank design, how the use actually tank tactics, and how each school is model after each nation tank strategies.
No mate these tactics cant be realistic whatever they are. why? because tanks never actually fought each other on close range tank duels in real life was and is now shooting each other from around 1-2km tanks were used as infantry support almost all the time of course there were few tanks vs tank close encounters but it wasnt really common thing. not enough common to make tactics for it generals were trying to avoid tanks getting so close to each other. only in movies they show tanks shotting each other for such close range to make it more fun to watch
@@Soap.-- In GuP the schools are model after the nationals during WW2 and post WW2 and each school use the tactics that would be trained by that nations army during that time period. The average tank battle distance during WW2 was 750-900 yards with a mean of 840 yards. Engagement at ranges beyond 1300 m were uncommon. Do to tank guns design or to type of rounds designed by the national. Also environmental factors also plays a part too.
@@Soap.-- never fought close range? *T-34s ramming Tigers to shoot them point-blank in attempt to penetrate them intensifies*
@@coreyswint2785 that's still far distance the one u got in anime is like World of Tanks. That woud never happen
Except for the fact that they use blitzkrieg in an urban environment. I'm willing to bet even experienced tank crews dont want to do sharp turns and drifts in tight streets.
what you said about making history interesting is so true. i was a little interested in tanks befor GUP but when i saw the mous and the tiger p, it made me want to find out if those are real and when i found out they are, i got hooked on how they thought of these ideas. its awsome!! lol im fine with being called a tank weeb because anime help me become more invested in stuff i never would have really cared about. (they literally have an anime about cooking food and that made me want to look into more culinary topics)
"why do you like this shit"
Can you think of another show with multi perspective tank battles, and 6,000,000 historical references?
Cone: “Kids don’t care”
Me, who’s been into history since elementary school: Hold the fuck up
Lol same I’ve spent hundreds if not thousands of hours playing games and reading books based around military history
I've been into ww2 stuff since I was 8 when my dad bought me some books. When I got a ps3 for Christmas the only game I played was birds of steel. I watched videos and dreamed of playing wt. Then I finally mustered 300 dollars to buy myself a ps4 and the first thing I did was download war thunder. I am now 14 and still go to air shows and am finally going to go to tankfest this year (it was cancelled last year.) Learning about ww2 history has been a big part of my life
Me, who read all types of history book (including medical, technology, military, and of course weapons) in elementary: WTF
There Is this 10yo who lives in the same neighborhood, just keeps asking me questions after questions about WW2 he just keeps learning non-stop like, JEEZUS!
How about your classmates? Were they also interested in history?
No? Exactly
The thing with GuP is that most of the inaccuracies are clearly intentional choices, not dumb mistakes or pandering or laziness. The people who made the show clearly love tanks, and did their homework. The show is full of subtle details that you'd never notice if you aren't already well informed about the machines involved, but will make you smile when you do spot them. It's like the difference between a skilled musician who purposefully messes around with the music he's playing to have fun, vs an unskilled amateur who plays it wrong because he doesn't know any better.
To name just one trivial example: Late in the series, the four girls of the school's automotive club who have been maintaining the tanks until now, join the team to operate the Porsche Tiger prototype, which was a tank well known for its many mechanical issues. At one point, the engine breaks down during during a match. The crew act mildly annoyed rather than surprised, and one girl calmly climbs out and starts fixing the engine, while the tank is still driving. It's completely silly and ridiculous, but on the other hand, the Porsche Tiger *did* have 2 engines with electric drive, so, at least in principal, it really could drive on one engine. Of course, fixing an engine on a moving tank while it's hot from running still silly, but the scene calls out a cool and obscure technical detail in a way that's both humorous and exciting, but it doesn't shove your face in it. It's just a few seconds with no-one calling attention to why they can do that, so you'll only appreciate it later when you get curious and read about the Porsche Tiger (or while watching if you're a real tank nerd).
Or the amusing bit of trivia that in WWII tanks WERE driven over other tanks, both intentionally and accidentally, which is hilariously referenced on the Maus scene (and with a tank whose chasis was later used for a tank towing vehicle, for added amusement value), facts that one discovers when investigating whether the scene is TOTALLY fictional or has at least some kind of plausibility, even if the scene is greatly exagerated for fun. I even remember someone making the calculation that the Hetzer's chasis would REALLY stand that weight without structural failure - but its suspension would not, which is EXACTLY what the series depicts.
Also, I've watched footage of WWII-era tanks _actually drifting over cobbled streets_ (a captured T-26 pulling a 180 for show at the victory parade of the winning side of the Spanish Civil War). Have you noticed that ALL the tank drifting scenes (but the ones of the hilariously improved Porshe Tiger - those are done for laughs) happen over paved surfaces? Yes I knew you noticed. They did. But you need to have watched that rare footage or you'll believe it's impossible.
@@notfeedynotlazy Could I ask for the source of this? I really wanna see it because it sounds fucking hilarious.
@@MisterNeumeyer Sadly, I can not point to any internet link. That footage I saw in a 1980s(*) (pre-Internet age) TVE documentary about the SCW, so the original footage itself must be in TVE archives - but the documentary itself was never digitalized. It might even be lost - TVE used to record over old recording tapes "to save costs" in the late 80s and early 90s...
(*: Yes, that shows my age...)
And it's a damn sexy tank...
Imma convert my friend to the cult of anime tanks (> anime girls, PSA for the primitives) with this comment, thank you.
The school carrier ships are the largest sort of fictional ship so far.
"You can't shove information down someone's throat, because they have to want to learn"
Every educational system be like:
"Obeserve"
To be honest, Girls und Panzer is what got me to like tanks
Same here
Bro saaaame
Exactly what happened to me it also got me into anime too.
Gup my fav. Anime because I love tanks too
Same
I would be interested in you reviewing the Der Film. Seeing you go into details about tanks would be really good. (I know Potential History did this but I am always open to seeing others review the film for historical references as well)
The thing I like about GUP when it comes to history and making someone get interested into it is the number of tank inventory.
Most movies just show one type of tank used unlike GUP and particularly the Saunders match, the firefly is shown to work as a team with the regular m4 tanks.
"Kids really don't care"
Me who's been really interested in this kind of stuff.
: Wait, is this not normal for a child?
Uhh...not many peoples
Your not the only one
Same been interested for years about history.
Kids seem to be more interested in clothes, drugs and mumble rap about getting more drugs, cars, and girls nowdays rather than guns, tanks, and military history.
Atleast in the usa
Sadly we are the minority
@@ecliptin5395 Lol yeah,Im a Military and History maniac but my friends just arent enthusiastic enough.That makes me sad :(
imagine that an anime about waifus driving tanks is more realistic than a movie thats supposed to be realistic
well, u have to give them some credits,
for in animations, u can really go wild and it would all it will needs is just couple of skilled animators and story-writers
and in live-action movies, u will need actors, props, the vehicles, and others.
not mentions the backups, behind-the-scene crew, historians, and permission to use a setting
Besides the explanation with the "safety rounds" and the souped-up engines on everything (which was more for plot than anything else), they didn't do a horrible job with GuP. The vehicles are all real and accurate, the tactics are at least based off of what the original factions used, was all-around entertaining without being WoT-level inaccurate. Besides, any budding history nerd would know better than to see this and actually believe that's how it was in real life.
@@Colonel100 It's an entertainment anime bro, chill. And what's more realistic, a tank flipping or an M4A2 76 not being able to pierce frontally a Tiger I ?
@@nemozinioux Yeah I know. But somebody cannot just diss fury. And this is coming from a man who has never seen fury. But I have seen enough of Girls Und Panzer to know this users post in my opinion is a tad flawed.
@@Colonel100 Flawed ? Yes but actually no, GuP really cared about giving details on how things work to add logic an thus a bit of realism (even when not mentioned in the anime) when in Fury... supposedly experienced crews are acting DUM and more, more problems. The issue is Fury never seems to completely assume to be what it is : entertainment. It never goes full show movie, when it could as so many things are wrong in it.
GuP on it's side, cares a lot more about some details like superheavies and tactics.
The thing about enticing viewers with a bit of something to get them interested to learn more is real. I'm not a history buff and I had no idea what the maus was before watching GuP but after ep 11 I spent an evening researching the thing from all different manners (technical, historical, political etc...) which then went on to me researching other tanks in the series, just because I thought they looked cool.
“Kids don’t care about history”
Me who has watched every episode of sabaton history: excuse me what?
_You_ care about history. All the other brats don't.
@@md_vandenberg History is a place where revels lie, and sometimes more criticizing than anything else.
4:54 well Sabaton is stuff that was entry drug for me, at first "hey that song sounds cool" but then "hey what are they singing about?" eventually developing into "what about context and further implications of what they were singing about and especially what lead to?"
I picked up a lot of American history as a kid digging into Johnny Horton songs. Sabaton is doing the same for my kids.
Same
THEY ARE THE PANZER ELITE, BORN TO COMPLETE, NEVER RETREAT
It was the series that made me a Weeb instead,damn High School girls with short skirts
ah I see, you are a man of culture as well
Saaaaaame! Came for the tanks, stayed for the cute anime girls
Came for the tanks, got traumatized about how little school girls lift heavy ammo with little effort and wear skirts in a metal interior (imagine grazing your legs somewhere inside the tank, yikes)
Honestly, I looked around for other similar anime. Nothing cuts it.
Weebs are GuP fans but GuP fans are not necessarily weebs.
@@samoldfield5220 There's nothing like it if you wish for tank battles. There are some which are perfect if you love series that appreciates history very well though, like Vinland Saga (a really well crafted love letter to viking age) or Legend of Galactic Heroes (which is basically some kind of Prussian Napoleon vs American Yi Sun-Yin epic but in space -- watch the original 4 season OVA for much more historical documentary feel).
The historical accuracy is also very good. Things like the Tiger P episode and the times they put upgrades on the Panzer IV. The Tiger P episode is one of my favorites as they just get stuck in mud and catch on fire a lot lol.
I needed to throw my 2 cents in as to why GuP is better than Fury.
1) Fury is a war movie that happens to involve tanks. GuP is a series about tanks written by history nerds that uses a silly premise to make watching tanks more interesting and fun than watching a documentary. But make no mistake: GuP is loaded with historical references and tries to show how different countries used their different tanks in different ways.
2) Fury is a war movie, with the bloody parts that is part of war, but means you cannot watch it with children present. A Lt shooting himself in the head while burning is realistic, but not suitable for children and a girlfriend who is not into war. GuP is unique, even among anime, where you have tank fight scenes, but nobody gets hurt and while fierce competitors, everybody winds up friends. GuP you can watch with older children present. In fact, GuP shows that you can want to win, and be fierce, but respect competitors for their strengths. Most anime, let alone war movies, do not have this message.
3) Tanks among nations: GuP actually emphasizes the differences between nations and their tanks. Yes, it makes caricatures of the various nations, but if you watch the series you know the difference between British/Japanese/German/American/French/Italy (who know Italy had tanks?), their characteristics and how they were employed. StugIII sniping. Heavy British infantry tanks. Gudarian saying a tank's engine is as much a weapon as its cannon. Name one war movie or anime that shows so many nation's tanks to the point that you can tell them apart.
4) Tactics: Yes GuP ignores tank speed. Otherwise, the British infantry tanks like Matilda could not participate with Crusaders. Yet you know Germans like heavy tanks and precision; Americans like firepower and overwhelming numbers; Japanese bonzai attacks. And Fury gets the tactics wrong as well. On the dramatic 3 Shermans vs 1 Tiger, Fury has the German tank commander act like an idiot. First, the Tiger would not break cover and move forward: his advantage is outranging the Shermans - moving forward closes the distance more quickly to his detriment. Second, Fury had the upgraded cannon. Normally German tank commanders target the upgraded Shermans first, leaving the weaker 75mm cannon Shermans for last. In fact, US tanks would paint their upgraded cannons to look short like 75s so they would not be first to be blown up. Fury's Tiger does exactly the opposite to doctrine. Brad Pit should have died first - but then where would the movie be if the Germans followed doctrine and Brad dies quickly.
5) Why would a SS regiment be without panzerfausts, which would make short work of Fury. That is why tanks want infantry support, which is doctrine.
6) History: there are several TH-cams where history nerds describe all the various historical references in GuP. Even their birthdays refer to historical events like the invasion of Russia. Or the Germans hitting Orai quickly by going through the forest, like the Ardennes in May 1940 or the Battle of the Bulge. If you watch GuP several times, you begin to wonder "What was Operation Bagration?" Fury is not about history. It is about war and the tragedy that results. GuP is about WW2 tanks and history, with cute girls in short skirts thrown in for entertainment.
7) Tanks: how many people knew that German tanks, while powerful, had belts that break and other mechanical problems. Or that Shermans could be steered by idiots. Or that Matildas had thicker armor than PanzerIVs. I never heard of a KV-2 or JS-2 or Sherman Firefly. And what about those Finnish tanks! Who knew? And that was without watching the GuP short series about the tanks used in the series. I think you could argue that the tanks in GuP are more important characters than the tanks in Fury.
You could get the same information in a documentary, but GuP is more interesting to watch for the entertainment.
8) Guilty Pleasure: I have to admit, that after working hard and getting home late, I continually watch GuP because it has exciting tank battles, but no blood and guts and it is entertaining. Plus it has cute girls, sometimes in bikinis. I can relax, focus on eating, and still be entertained by tank battles, even with my daughter around. Documentaries you have to focus on to get maximum knowledge, and death and destruction is not always wanted.
9) Music: I knew the German Panzerlied. But had never heard the Russian Katyusha. The Japanese songs are quite catchy. I knew the French Onion song because I do French Napoleonic Grenadier reenacting, and so was quite pleased to hear it. The songs are great. I actually looked up Katyusha on TH-cam to hear the whole thing. And that is the difference between Fury and GuP. GuP makes you want to do more research about the stuff they bring up. I did not get that motivation from Fury.
10) Damn I wish my high school offered tankery/Sensha Do. I did NOT want to be in Brad Pitt's shoes.
To conclude: Fury is about war and the tragedy that results. Fury revolves around the Human characters. GuP the tanks are at least as important as characters as the girls. Yes, you do get a feel for each of the human characters, and feel sympathy for each one. I already mentioned the nice moral concept of being fiercely competitive but not mean to your opponents. But you also learn that a M3 Lee is outmatched by an Elefant. Or the JagdPanzer is a monster that shrugs off most cannonfire. Or Crusaders are zippy. GuP is completely packed with historical references. If you watch Fury would you know more about tanks than watching, say, Bridge Too Far. But watching GuP you will know more about a large variety of tanks, and not have to endure blood and guts to do it.
All I say is yes, Exactly.
Although I could only find the original series and not Der Film or Das Finale...
Whenever someone brings up GuP being unrealistic, i always answer "its realistic enough"
I mean yeah. Tbf i cant recall any TRULY impossible shots, at least in the main series. As in, they got the armour and relative power of the tanks correct.
It's realistic enough to attract an expert, but unrealistic enough to be interesting to a casual audience. Realistic tank battles are quite static after all.
"GuP is unrealistic" is the laziest excuse one could give to put down the show. Most animes even without the fantasy element have always been unrealistic.
Evangelion is perhaps one of the most renowned animes ever created with a fantastic story, yet the EVAs themselves are 100% unrealistic. Not to mention the fact that the show never explains why only kids can be pilots.
@@imgvillasrc1608 i think they mentioned something about having to sync the EVA's with the Pilots, (kind of like Pacific Rim) and all of the possible candidates who COULD sync up with the EVA's just happened to be kids
@@Lewd-Tenant_Isan Yes but it never explains WHY only kids can link up to the EVAs. There are fan theories floating around but they are merely theories.
Regardless, it's not such an important issue as it's not important to the main story at all.
Here’s how I look at it. There’s two types of unrealistic when it comes to history; unrealism done out of ignorance and unrealism done as an artistic choice. While I am usually always in favor of realism over action, in this case I think what they have works great as it’s not in a historical setting and the creators clearly know and respect the actual history behind it.
Yea, finding the "Tank on maus" sceene was litterally what got me into anime and sparked my interest in ww2 history, and after that ww1.
I got into WWI and WWII was the Russians 🇷🇺 because of there big azz tanks
... literally* ...
same, now my interest is fully on tank design rather than history tbh (but i do look for some history stuf too)
its fun to imagine how they could make a ''perfect'' version of a ww2/ww1 tank with a better engine and suspension etc or to think wether it would be possible or not to make tanks like the grasshopper or the ratte real in the modern days (even if one would obviously be a detriment and the other ultimately useless)
Learn the rest of history too
Mike’s father is right. Finding a way to find history both interesting & relatable is extremely important. I used to be a tour guide on historical trails. when we would get a school group in, I would change my presentations based on the grade. Often I would try to figure out what games or showers were popular at the time.
besides the huge details on the tanks in the series, I also like to point out there are many other historic details, like the history club making a reference of a historic battle or character almost every time they speak, or the time darjeeling (the leader of the british HS) spoke with katyusha (leader of the soviet HS) being a reference when Churchill discuss with Stalin the state of WWII. There are a huge amounts of details about history, might not be one of the best plots in animation, but surely is one of the best historic works in animation
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I completely forgot I was also going to mention the OST, which really well done and if I'm not mistaken, all of them are real
6:12 This single shot alone made a lot of weeaboos wet their pants
Shoulda seen half of them break down. Lol
@@robertharris6092 none of the tanks' transmissions broke
0/10 totally inaccurate
*sarcasm
Probably modern day metallurgy and technology solved all of these~~~
Panzor Vor !
Fucking guess what? This anime get me into tanks
Why have you created that pfp and name
Go and watch a Russian ww2 tank movie you will appreciate how good they are
@@tonivoul1971 no thank
same
I mean in wotb there is a GUP tanks literally for sale 😭Expensive but tempting
ive tried to introduce girls und panzers to weebs and it didnt work, i guess the tank intusiasts are watching that thing more than any real weeb.
"How GuP is better than Fury"
GuP has cute anime girls. 'Nuff said.
Agreed!
@sleepy cat II yes, mein kommandant.
@sleepy cat II Yes.
During the credits of der film, it shows Wargaming participated in GuP
I mean the the person who makes videos about tanks that work for WG also helped with the movie. And I'm assuming it's researching for the tanks idk.
@@doritolegend9664 probably also for the Tank models
@@doritolegend9664 is none other than your favorite tall man, the chieftain
@@rembestgirl4949 I forgot his name lol
@@doritolegend9664 Nicholas "The Chieftain" Moran
General George Patton:”God help me! I do love it so!!”
Miho Nishizumi: “George. Hold my beer!!”
Inaccuracies aside, when that show digs it's heels in, it's more detailed than anything I've seen.
It's not just the animation, it is filled to the absolute brim with historical references and jokes. The team behind it has done some absolutely incredible work, and I'm glad I can enjoy things like these without shame.
4:34
School: I missed the point where that’s my problem
The part where Miho and Maho were kids driving to the lake through the rice fields really showed how one could feel alive and at ease with a tank. I know many love tanks, it's a strange like or obsession that I notice just happens to come out in people involved with tanks or an interest in them. like Hana Isuzu with her flower arranging tank vase, thay can be so peaceful. I have never felt that before Girls und panzer. I think tanks might achually bring about not a love for war, but feeling of security and perhaps peace.
Have you actually watched Fury? The guy Norman replaces had his head blown off by a shell in the tank. Tanks are machines of death. Plot armor aside, unless you’re using a tank as farm equipment, which happens more frequently than a person thinks, a tank is designed to kill. End of story. They are pretty cool; I’m a mechanic so I do love to note certain features like drivetrain and suspension whenever I visit museums but aside from that the lowdown is not pretty. But they do beat the trenches. Admiration from afar…
@@ardie4
1. It was girls und panzer not fury two different things and one is irrelevant to the topic as.it was not brought up at all
2. A tank is designed to kill but that depends on the user same with a gun it is designed to kill but it depends on how you use it which defines what it is.
Girls und Panzer was the very first anime I've watched that got me into both history and anime at the same time and thus there'll always be a special place in my memory and heart for this anime
What are the odds.
Me too
Ok these odds are kinda ridiculous
Me three
In fact as i am writing this i am bouta watch the final episode of the main series
i always loved history since early highschool and always wanted to learn more in my history classes
Bruh even tho playing WT for a long time now watching this show was the thing that low key got me into tanks and the history around/behind them. ( this was 4 years ago )
I really like this anime, history stuffs aside, the OSTs in this series is a masterpiece. They could at least milked it a little bit more by making more sequels or seasons.
They are making OVAs so it is being milked. The OST is great, I hear it all the time
@@fluck6959 My grandpa is a huge fan of military music. I'mma get him addicted to the GuP OST
I think only Wargaming had a collab with them adding the Panzer IV Anko, Hetzer, (also giving the Ha-Go a camo), Saunders Sherman Firefly, Kuro Mori Mine, and the most recent being the IS-2 Pravda
I’m still waiting for the Pink M3 Lee
And I don’t care if Wargaming sell it for 20$ for a reskin M3 Lee
GIVE IT TO ME WARGAMING
Buy the Blu-ray boxes for the finale or something lol
I doubt these feature films will ever make it into other countries…
I wish they'd release dream tank match in europe... It's quite hard to get here.
We need GuP but with modern MBTs, ATGMs, active protection systems and reactive armor. Image the crazy shit they would do with that stuff
That sounds oddly... Entertaining... As far as I know, only the Type 90, I think it was, is in GuP. It might be a cool little mini series like Phase Erika
Somewhere, from far off in the distance, a single blip of gunfire. *Aaaaand the tank is gone.*
*S-Tank reversing all the way to the bank*
@@solarflare7284 it's type 10 bruh, on the third ep
Ironically, GuP is one of the reasons why I got so hooked up with MBTs. Cpt. Chono's Type 10 and her introduction was one of the best parts of the series.
Though, I can understand why there are no MBT concept for Sensha-do. Can you imagine trying to tell the difference between a T-72, T-80, and a T-90? M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams? Or even a Leopard 1 and 2? Perhaps full on tank nerds that love modern tanks like me can identify, but for the casual viewer or WW2 onlys, the difference is non-existent or very minimal.
No but ok
Still waiting for Finale parts 3-6. Love this show!
me a 10 year old that has been studying history since the age of 6
Wooow it's great, ah me 21 and still learning History in university.
One is a ultra realistic, high action and intense show, the other is about some angry dude in a tank or something
@@Colonel100 he or she made the right choice fury is crap and they made so many mistakes that is laughable
@@Colonel100 how are they anime Nazis? Also just because someone dislikes something you like doesn't mean they didn't watch it mayby just mayby they disliked it.
@@Colonel100 in another comment you said (paraphrased) "It was created by imperial Germany and was later used as a nazi symbol" so please get your story right as according to your self it isn't a nazi symbol that was created by the Nazis. Also just because they use that symbol does not mean they are Nazis mayby they do it to be more historical accurate (I am not saying it is historical accurate fully but a good part is historically accurate) like the part where the Finnish tank drives without its tracks which it could do and has been done before or how the KV2 when on a slight slope tipped over sideways which it actually did as well as many other small details for all of the tanks not just the Nazis but the Soviets , France , US , Finland and Japan.
@@Colonel100 seen Fury and it's bad. Its a typical war movie you see everyday. The funny thing is that Fury was based on an event and the event was way more interesting than the movie.
@@Colonel100 You get mad over people saying the movie is bad (which it is), but based on you said, you never seen GuP and assume it's an all Nazi anime all because you saw the symbol on the German tanks. Man you got to be really dumb to think like that.
World of Tanks:The Anime
Lmao
@@theskeletons2317 My friend owns a GuP Pz. IV in WoTb.
Pretty fun, I'd say!
Not only do I love this anime, I read the manga a little bit as well, I found out about it during school when I stumbled upon a video called "How to defeat a Maus." And it sparked my love for anime, though at the time I didn't know it was something you would be made fun for liking. I get made fun of for liking tanks as well... But regardless, seeing the Maus in action was a cool scene.
Also can we just mention how amazing the OST's for every school is?
Hello cone of arc i am from japan and love to watch your videos my mom used to live near oarai and yes oarai is a real town in ibaraki you could check out streetview and you would find GuP stuff everywhere even in 2021 many people there try to build replica tanks and also rare ones like the italian tankettes
Interesting!
When you talked about the Maus scene and how that would have looked to a person not familiar with tank history, that actually spoke to me because that actually was me. I went into GuP knowing next to nothing and the Maus scene got me excited to know more about the Maus and tank combat as a whole. The show does do a really good job with making you interested.
I mean, who DOESN'T want to know more about a tank that has its own fucking class? It's like hearing about the Ratte, the Maus' bigger brother. Big enough to put a Naval cannon on it!
@@registheron9752 Isn't the Ratte an actual Land Battleship than just being called a Tank?
@@aaronluisdelacruz4212 Technically yes, but landship originates from the WW1 British tank so its not too different
I mean gup literally had nick morranis as their advisor.
Who
@@JohnSmith-kg2rt the chieftain he's a rather well know armour expert who works for war gaming.
@@deezboyeed6764 oh I know him (but only knew of him by the chieftain)
His name is Nicholas Moran and he works for Wargaming as the Chieftain
Wtf ? Really?
Awesome Video dude, a new subscriptor, ans GuP has a lot of content historical, especially Akiyama special episodes
I remembered when i first watched it... when they found the tiger P... that thing got me SO HYPED to know more about it... it really serve as a purpose to get more people into TANKS and History for sure! ❤❤
Fury: grit, horror, ptsd, whatever the fuck is happening
GuP: realism and historical accuracy
Do you know the story of Yukiyukite Sensha-dou the doujinshi?
@@amirul_ashraff13 don’t. Please- they don’t need this.
@@justsomeguy7921 do you know the story of Darth Plagius the Wise?
Da?
@@cannibalcats4266 Yes..? That’s got nothing to do with this, though.
I unironically love this anime.
I can agree with this statement. I’m not a commie tho
@@americankid7782 lol im not a communist either I just run a soviet- ww2 rp group on roblox
@@OrlandoLong07 that’s even better than running a commentator account based of a historical figure. Nice.
Same
Same
@ConeOfArc what happend to the little cone tonk, why isnt it out there to buy anymore?
most touching moment for me was episode 10. it was the night before the finals. some of the girls were watching and crying over kelly's heroes (starring clint eastwood). a movie i repeatedly watched with my dad, a war movies enthusiast (i got it from him) who introduced me to the longest day, a bridge too far, battle of the bulge, operation daybreak, etc. he passed away in 2004. this anime series is not only amazing, it also reminds me of my younger, happier days watching war movies with him. 😪
If I could make a tank movie it would be the best fucking thing created
You make a tank movie I’ll causally design an actual tank because I generally do stuff like that with my free time I do planes as well
Well i think fury tried to do that but they didnt have the funds nor the tanks so good luck
Write it, pitch it.
Make it about the Third Squadron Forth Cavalry Regiment or maybe the 11 Cavalry Regiment
"before you call me a weeb..."
but you are aren't you regardless of anything else
A great example of this principle is Sabaton, where the mix the history with amazing music to tell the story. It’s always very well-written.
I wanna thank you for this. I was thinking of being a hisotry teacher for years now, this would be a good way to introduce history more interesting to my students (in the future when i grow up) And i would like to know what background music do you use in this video? 🤔
It was a mix. Some of it came from a girls und panzer mobile game and the other is a mixture of HOI and some other games if I remember righg
@@ConeOfArc thanks man, keep making more! ❤️👍🏻😁
@@ConeOfArc what the background music in 2:12? 🤔
It sounds cool
@@ConeOfArc i’ll wait..
@@StrikerTheSlacker I don't remember off the top of my head. You could try one of those music ID apps
i must admit the russian stand off really humanized crews in this series
"There is no speaking Russian on the battlefield!" One of the best Russian lines in the movie
@@kaindragon *Remember, no Russian*
Also them singing katyusha was just the best
one of my favourite scenes for sure
Everything is accurate apart from speed and shell damage
Ill take that
There is also some footage of tanks drifting on TH-cam so you're correct
Search: "you can't drift a tank"
I found a lot of Military Marches thanks to GuP, in all kinds of nations, it was fun learning stuff while listening to what were the marches made in 1930+
You sold me. But I'm going with Kelly's Heroes only because they pay homage to it in Yup. SGT Oddball! Great video brother! 😊😎