All that watch this video, with these devices there is a HIGH probability there could be malware that comes pre installed on the device. Before using any device like this at the very least, please do a quick search to see if anything has been reported. This T95 device has been reported to have malware, please review this article. www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2023/01/preinstalled-malware-infested-t95-tv-box-from-amazon
Looking forward to the follow up video! Not all android tv boxes are useless, those running on Amlogic S905W, S905X and a few others have pretty good support from the Armbian community and I've successfully installed Klipper and Mainsail via KIAUH on a few of these already (X96 mini), but still haven't used any of them in a real build. Even KlipperScreen worked with a touch screen! Wifi most likely won't work on most of these devices due to the lack of a proper driver, but a small nano usb wifi card will work just fine. Other downside would be the number of USB ports - in most cases only two ports are available. For the price (used ~$10) it's still worth it. Cheers!
I have got klipper running on s805(mxq pro 4k-only on usb/sd old kernal 5.*) s905(hyfai-only-on usb/sd) s905x(t95x) via Armbian and a rk3328(libre renegade) and they support I2C, SPI and UART for the most part. Granted I haven't had much success with Armbian overlays to enable them. Haven't tried an android install yet but Klipper via KIAUH on Armbian can work also there are some other distros such as openwrt on the boards listed. Overall great way to save e-waste!
Chris, thanks for spending your time to figure all of this out, you saved a lot of other peoples time and money, will be interesting to see it when you are finished.
I have a couple of Android TV box's that I bought as Christmas gifts but then learned that the intended recipients had upgraded their TV's to smart TV's so had to buy alternative gifts, I bought Orange Pi Zero 2 boards to fee up my RPi boards for other projects, it looks like I might be using the Orange Pi Zero 2 boards for other projects as well if Octoprint will run well on the Android TV box's.
Set mine up with a 35 dollar Le potato (readily available on amazon). Used the script Chris showed in one of his other videos and it works brilliantly!
Hello Chris, Nothing related to the video but I was wondering why you did not build a voron 2.4 which seems to be the DIY printer that shine against the plug and play bambulab landslide
Hey, it's a good question. Really is was about price and the time to build it. I like to build printers while live streaming and that build takes a really long time to complete.
@@ChrisRiley I really want to watch you building it since I really like your clever sens of explaining stuff (if I say it correctly ;). You are one of the best youtuber I follow now...
I still have my PI 4B that was used on my ender 3 until i sold it so once i can get my hands on a Neptune 3 Plus i'll be trying to get that up and running on the PI with octoprint.
Hi Chris I know this post is old but saw a post on armbian forum Im trying to install headers on mine to get my usb wifi dongle working I know its not worth it but at the end I just like these kind off projects and building knowledge. if its okay will you be able to assist ?
Great video Chris I looked at this option not too long ago and then came across the Inovato Quadra running armbian Linux for 35.00 I went the Quadra route with Octoprint deploy and have been running 3 instances of octoprint on it for a couple months now without a single issue.
Nicer overview, thanks! (Especially for the "workarounds" section!) I woul definitely block this device from the internet on the firewall after everything is set up. Then the Android would probably behave in a more consistent manner.
I would try with an amlogic box or rockchip. I have been out of the scene for a long time..but allwinner software used to be really bad. Amlogic was best followed by rockchip. An additional advantage on amlogic is the ease of running Linux native
You should still disable "battery optimization" (read: RAM management) otherwise Android will kill the app if it's in background regardless of the fake battery status
My question: My Prusa Mk3 i3 3D printer is housed in a remote shed that can get quite chilly. Although I don't live in an area with heavy snowfall, the low temperatures can still lead to minimum temperature errors for the bed and nozzle of my Prusa Mk3 i3 3D printer. Unfortunately, these errors can also make it difficult to start the printer remotely. These errors are frustrating because I have to use a heat gun to raise the nozzle temperature and restart the printer, and then repeat the process for the bed. Do you know of any ways to avoid these low temperature errors? Some people have suggested rolling back the firmware, but I prefer to keep the latest version if possible. What are your thoughts on this?
I hear that, I have seen the same issue at times. You can disconnect and reconnect to restart the firmware. Sometimes that's enough to be able to allow you to start the heaters.
@@ChrisRiley it's a Linux OS which I found to use on lower powered TV box machines for running media services but its low demands on processor it might work with octoprint. I looked into it for Plex a while ago and didnt fully succeed. It worked on an old raspi but the TV box was tricky to find exact chip model
I just purchased on of these T95 units off of Amazon for $30. I wanted to install Armbnian onto it. I flared Armbian onto a micro SD card but it won't boot off the SD card. I found a button at the rear of the AV port and tried holding it down on power up but still can't get the Armbian to load. It basically plays dead. I tried with and without the monitor plugged in but no difference. Does anyone know how I can get this to boot Armbian or any Linux operating system? Thanks!
Linus Tech Tips just did a video on how most of these cheap Android TV boxes have built in back doors that could be used maliciously. Probably best not to use these without securing them from accessing other things on your network.
@@ChrisRiley Nice! I would love one day to see a "Cool Klipper Macros" video since thats the kinda stuff I think a lot of people could be interested if they are interested in the klipper video.
Telling that "TV Boxes are not worth it" for the task is just blatant generalizzation, clickbait even. You didn't even specify how much ram it have which is crucial when it comes to print/camera smoothness. That box (like many others) comes in different variants (RAM+Internal Storage related) but the cpu is definitely up for the task. Also you could've got rid of some bloatware
@@sneedtubeI was expecting nothing but this very rude aggressive kind of reply that adds nothing to anything, congrats on this. He'll come to that in next videos. Have a great day.
@@Davor_3D_ZrAM first of all that's not rude but just factual and informative, the only "rude" part could be the "clickbait" one, which again is factual given that the very title of the video in short is "not worth it". Second, in the next video he's going to cover a lightweight Linux distro and not Android, let alone optimizing the latter. On the other hand, YOUR reply is aggressive instead and full of fanboyism since you ditch altogether my legit points and proceed to give incorrect informations about the next video. That's all.
All that watch this video, with these devices there is a HIGH probability there could be malware that comes pre installed on the device. Before using any device like this at the very least, please do a quick search to see if anything has been reported. This T95 device has been reported to have malware, please review this article. www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2023/01/preinstalled-malware-infested-t95-tv-box-from-amazon
Looking forward to the follow up video! Not all android tv boxes are useless, those running on Amlogic S905W, S905X and a few others have pretty good support from the Armbian community and I've successfully installed Klipper and Mainsail via KIAUH on a few of these already (X96 mini), but still haven't used any of them in a real build. Even KlipperScreen worked with a touch screen! Wifi most likely won't work on most of these devices due to the lack of a proper driver, but a small nano usb wifi card will work just fine. Other downside would be the number of USB ports - in most cases only two ports are available. For the price (used ~$10) it's still worth it. Cheers!
I have got klipper running on s805(mxq pro 4k-only on usb/sd old kernal 5.*) s905(hyfai-only-on usb/sd) s905x(t95x) via Armbian and a rk3328(libre renegade) and they support I2C, SPI and UART for the most part. Granted I haven't had much success with Armbian overlays to enable them. Haven't tried an android install yet but Klipper via KIAUH on Armbian can work also there are some other distros such as openwrt on the boards listed. Overall great way to save e-waste!
Yes, the next video will make much more since. This one I was just trying to run a 3D printer out of the box. The next one, we get crazy with it. :)
any chance you can point me in the direction to get it running on my tanix x4 (s905x4)
@@8l0wm3 From what I know s905x4 is not supported by Armbian and not sure it ever will
Great job in this Chris! It was fun to play along and I'm staying tunned for the alternate solutions you found!!!
Thanks Chris! I have another video coming soon that turns out much better.
Chris, thanks for spending your time to figure all of this out, you saved a lot of other peoples time and money, will be interesting to see it when you are finished.
Thanks Dave!
I have a couple of Android TV box's that I bought as Christmas gifts but then learned that the intended recipients had upgraded their TV's to smart TV's so had to buy alternative gifts, I bought Orange Pi Zero 2 boards to fee up my RPi boards for other projects, it looks like I might be using the Orange Pi Zero 2 boards for other projects as well if Octoprint will run well on the Android TV box's.
More to come!
Set mine up with a 35 dollar Le potato (readily available on amazon). Used the script Chris showed in one of his other videos and it works brilliantly!
Awesome!
Hello Chris, Nothing related to the video but I was wondering why you did not build a voron 2.4 which seems to be the DIY printer that shine against the plug and play bambulab landslide
Hey, it's a good question. Really is was about price and the time to build it. I like to build printers while live streaming and that build takes a really long time to complete.
@@ChrisRiley I really want to watch you building it since I really like your clever sens of explaining stuff (if I say it correctly ;). You are one of the best youtuber I follow now...
Chris straight flexin’ on us with his LE prusa
lol, just a Prusa I don't use much that was free for a video. :)
You, sir, are simply amazing! Thanks for the video
Thank you kindly!
I still have my PI 4B that was used on my ender 3 until i sold it so once i can get my hands on a Neptune 3 Plus i'll be trying to get that up and running on the PI with octoprint.
Let us know how it goes!
Hi Chris I know this post is old but saw a post on armbian forum Im trying to install headers on mine to get my usb wifi dongle working I know its not worth it but at the end I just like these kind off projects and building knowledge. if its okay will you be able to assist ?
Sure, let me know how I can help.
Great video Chris I looked at this option not too long ago and then came across the Inovato Quadra running armbian Linux for 35.00 I went the Quadra route with Octoprint deploy and have been running 3 instances of octoprint on it for a couple months now without a single issue.
That's great, thanks for your comment!
Nicer overview, thanks! (Especially for the "workarounds" section!)
I woul definitely block this device from the internet on the firewall after everything is set up. Then the Android would probably behave in a more consistent manner.
That's a good idea!
I wonder if installing a different OS that requires fewer resources would run better.
Absolutely, stay tuned!
The T95 (and most other TV boxes) accept a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse. That can save some hassle if you need to make changes later.
Thanks!
How about doing the install instructions for a thin client?
I'll look into it
@@ChrisRiley that would be awesome thank you
I would try with an amlogic box or rockchip. I have been out of the scene for a long time..but allwinner software used to be really bad. Amlogic was best followed by rockchip.
An additional advantage on amlogic is the ease of running Linux native
I found a box that actually works really well, it will be in the next video.
You should still disable "battery optimization" (read: RAM management) otherwise Android will kill the app if it's in background regardless of the fake battery status
Thanks for the tip!
My question: My Prusa Mk3 i3 3D printer is housed in a remote shed that can get quite chilly. Although I don't live in an area with heavy snowfall, the low temperatures can still lead to minimum temperature errors for the bed and nozzle of my Prusa Mk3 i3 3D printer. Unfortunately, these errors can also make it difficult to start the printer remotely.
These errors are frustrating because I have to use a heat gun to raise the nozzle temperature and restart the printer, and then repeat the process for the bed. Do you know of any ways to avoid these low temperature errors? Some people have suggested rolling back the firmware, but I prefer to keep the latest version if possible. What are your thoughts on this?
I hear that, I have seen the same issue at times. You can disconnect and reconnect to restart the firmware. Sometimes that's enough to be able to allow you to start the heaters.
Is there a way to reset the 3D printer remotely maybe Octoprint?
@@MaxGoddur I looked through the firmware codes, I can't find a reset command that you can send.
Librelec?
Not sure what you mean.
@@ChrisRiley it's a Linux OS which I found to use on lower powered TV box machines for running media services but its low demands on processor it might work with octoprint. I looked into it for Plex a while ago and didnt fully succeed. It worked on an old raspi but the TV box was tricky to find exact chip model
@@benscottbongiben I'm not 100% sure what it was running. I have been playing armbian going back on it, it seems to work well.
The latest Octo4A fixes the camera issue, I just went through finding a solution myself!
Great, thanks!
What about Klipper on Android? Any better or even worse?
Coming soon!
as you said, Octo4A and TV boxes is not a good option, I installed ARMbian on a TV Box and still running without problem for almost 2 months.
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armbian rk3318 and rk322x tv box distro + klipper.
Klipper coming soon!
I just purchased on of these T95 units off of Amazon for $30. I wanted to install Armbnian onto it. I flared Armbian onto a micro SD card but it won't boot off the SD card. I found a button at the rear of the AV port and tried holding it down on power up but still can't get the Armbian to load. It basically plays dead. I tried with and without the monitor plugged in but no difference. Does anyone know how I can get this to boot Armbian or any Linux operating system? Thanks!
The roku octoprint 😂
Ha!
Tried octo4a on like 5 different devices and none of them would install. Gave up on it and just got an orange pi.
🙂👍
Linus Tech Tips just did a video on how most of these cheap Android TV boxes have built in back doors that could be used maliciously. Probably best not to use these without securing them from accessing other things on your network.
It's sad, but a lot of these boxes have some pretty bad stuff on them. With good network security, you can usually avoid problems.
U re right, not worth as android phone
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Klipper? Klipper.
Coming soon!
@@ChrisRiley Nice! I would love one day to see a "Cool Klipper Macros" video since thats the kinda stuff I think a lot of people could be interested if they are interested in the klipper video.
Telling that "TV Boxes are not worth it" for the task is just blatant generalizzation, clickbait even. You didn't even specify how much ram it have which is crucial when it comes to print/camera smoothness. That box (like many others) comes in different variants (RAM+Internal Storage related) but the cpu is definitely up for the task. Also you could've got rid of some bloatware
Thanks for watching!
@@ChrisRiley I was expecting nothing but this very passive aggressive kind of reply that adds nothing to the context, congrats on this
@@sneedtube Have a nice day!
@@sneedtubeI was expecting nothing but this very rude aggressive kind of reply that adds nothing to anything, congrats on this. He'll come to that in next videos. Have a great day.
@@Davor_3D_ZrAM first of all that's not rude but just factual and informative, the only "rude" part could be the "clickbait" one, which again is factual given that the very title of the video in short is "not worth it". Second, in the next video he's going to cover a lightweight Linux distro and not Android, let alone optimizing the latter. On the other hand, YOUR reply is aggressive instead and full of fanboyism since you ditch altogether my legit points and proceed to give incorrect informations about the next video. That's all.