Review of the Discussions with Shri Ranjit Ophir

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ม.ค. 2025

ความคิดเห็น • 10

  • @RajuKumar-ip5db
    @RajuKumar-ip5db 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMEN praise the lord brother Garu 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @danieljoshua4352
    @danieljoshua4352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jewish interpretation ni PARDES (Peshet, Remez, Drash, Sod levels of interpretation) antaru. Andulo moorchedi eddu ki chikkam pettoddu Ane vachananni Paul pastors ki apply chesinappudu Drash interpretation ni use chesadu. Appudu Paul contextual interpretation teesukoledu. Okavela Peshet level of interpretation chesi unte Paul daanini eddu ke ude chesevaru.
    So, Ranjith ophir garu hermeneutics book pakkana pettandi. But ilanti oka interpretation okati undi Ani telisi kooda aa Drash interpretation ni ophir garu use cheste daanini enduku tappu pattaro ardam kaledu.
    Nenu enduku idi point chestunna ante, idi oka normal people ee claims chesi unte pattinchukune vadini kaadu, ophir gari team lo vallu ilanti errors ni cheste assala problem ledu. But you being bible scholars, knowing Drash interpretation is not wrong, try to prove Ranjith ophir is wrong when he used Drash interpretation, which is sad.
    I expected Sai garu to intervene and talk about Jewish interpretation of the bible. But adi jaragaledu.

    • @Sathyaswaroopam
      @Sathyaswaroopam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you messianic or a Jew?

    • @danieljoshua4352
      @danieljoshua4352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sathyaswaroopam Neither! Just a normal Christian like anyone in the video.

    • @Sathyaswaroopam
      @Sathyaswaroopam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danieljoshua4352 no ur not a normal Christian...i think u have done research on bible..
      99% of Christians have no idea about Jewish roots

    • @danieljoshua4352
      @danieljoshua4352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sathyaswaroopam Hahaha... Neither do I bro! I got this info while I was hearing a sermon. Just remembered what they said. You may Google this info. You can find easily on the internet.

    • @danieljoshua4352
      @danieljoshua4352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sathyaswaroopam Any scholarly material that tries to explain the way the NT used OT would focus on this information. Usually we speak to read the bible in the context, which is true. But the first cen Jews never read the bible that way, nor did the Christians of that time. They believed that scriptures can speak multiple dimensions.
      Thats why when you read the new testament, you will see some old testament quotes being cited out of context. This is what Ranjith Ophir garu also said in the discussion. Unfortunately, neither in that video nor in this video the RTF team tried to explain why apostles had taken certain verses out of context and conveyed a message what they wanted to convey.
      Even though RTF team did a decent job, I felt that they could have done even better. They themselves say that they are okay with non essentials. But they spent so much time on "janta pakshulu" interpretation. In that place, they would have discussed other teachings that result in disaster. They said that they had 52 questions. Din't they have may better questions other than "janta pakshula" question?
      PS: I liked the way Sai garu helped us understand about the geographical stuff. I was expecting such errors to be exposed - not something to prove that there are many versions in Telugu.

  • @vallepuveeranna
    @vallepuveeranna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    మూడురోజులు జరిగిన చర్చలో తెలింది ఏమి లేదు, కొండను తవ్వి ఎలుక ను పట్టుకున్నట్లు ఉంది చర్చ. సంఘం ఎత్తబడేది శ్రమల కు ముందా? మధ్యలోన, శ్రమల తరువాతనా ఏదీ తెల్చలేదు, ఆ చర్చ వలన ఉపయోగం ఏమి లేదు.

    • @RockStar-gr8jg
      @RockStar-gr8jg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ఇది సంఘం ఎత్త బాటుకు మాత్రమే సంబంధించిన చర్చ కాదు కానీ, ఓఫీర్ గారి ‘యుగాంతం‘ పుస్తకము లో ఉన్న అన్ని చాప్టర్ ల గురించీ చర్చ. కాబట్టి ఇంకా కొన్ని చర్చలు జరగాలసిన అవసరత ఉంది. అడిగిన ప్రశ్నలకు సమాధానాలు రావాలసి ఉంది. ఈ చర్చలు ఇంకా ముగియలేదు అని RTF వారు చాలా క్లియర్ గా చెప్పుచున్నారు. తరువాతి అంకం గురించి వేచి ఉండండి.