Little children is such an underrated movie and one of my favorites. I think the woman who played Haley's mom in the movie should’ve been nominated for supporting actress.
@@jhhone Phyllis Sommerville was a marvel - whenever I see her I just remember her telling Charlotte in the Sex and the City series ' I bet you have a beautiful ( the C word) dear'.... bloody hilarious
My opinion on Dreamgirls as a whole; Bill Condon took the soul out of Dreamgirls. Hudson lucked out because of the hyperfocus on Effie and the number And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going, but the rest of the cast and film suffered in comparison to the stage musical. This includes Murphy, who's Jimmy Early was great but could've benefitted from additional scenes highlighting the effects of his drug use or the decline of his career. But that's just my take on it. My choices that year were either Murphy or Haley.
Dreamgirls was also much better movie and has aged better than Little Miss Sunshine. But Norbit movies really hurt Murphy. It’s so rare for comedians to be taken seriously that you can’t do as low brow humor as possible while trying to get the Oscar. Oscar is treated like a career adward by many, and not just for one performance. That’s why people are rooting for many people who haven’t won yet to get awards before even seeing a movie they could win for. It’s not just about the performance in that movie. Unless it’s really undeniable.
Murphy was great in the film, but in my opinion Little Miss Sunshine is a much better film and has aged beautifully. I still rewatch it to this day. It’s an amazing film with a good heart and great performances. Otherwise, I do agree Norbit really hurt Murphy’s chances.
I would argue that a big reason Eddie lost the Oscar was due to his personal life and the headlines he was getting for it around that time. Murphy's then-girlfriend Melanie Brown was pregnant with his daughter, and he denied the child was his and demanded a blood test. It generated a lot of negative press at the time.
I highly doubt it. I think it was simply one of those "long overdue" situations where Arkin was given the award because of the longevity of his career, since he had never won one.
@@hutch1197 I don't think there has to be 'one' factor though. The Academy is known to be picky and snobbish (quite frankly) so even if Norbit and him being a jerk to Mel B turned a few people off, that could have allowed the upset to happen. While Eddie had a comeback narrative, media coverage was getting spoiled by Norbit and him being a jerk. I just think surprise wins that involve votes include multiple factors, not just one thing. Alan Arkin's career narrative of course contributed as well. I feel the same way about politics. I recommend reading secret Oscar ballots because it's crazy how some people decide to vote the way that they do.
I forgot that was at the same time, and it certainly doesn’t make him look good. His personal life is messy otherwise too, I think he has ten children.
There is also speculation that there was a fallout from Norbit which was released in early 2007 before the Oscars were presented. The embarrassment of that film detracted from and overshadowed his performance in Dreamgirls.
@@goodgodfather54 I highly doubt NORBIT caused too many problems, especially since both Julianne Moore and Eddie Redmayne both won Oscars in the same year despite each appearing in separate flops at the same time (THE SEVENTH SON for Moore and JUPITER ASCENDING for Redmayne).
Great video! Arkin and Murphy are both world class actors who gave Oscar-caliber performances that year. My vote still would have gone to Murphy, and I think he deserved a nomination ten years earlier for The Nutty Professor!
I still think that Eddie Murphy should had won the Oscar for best supporting actor for Dream girls because he was absolutely brilliant as Jimmy "Thunder" Early. The reason why Alan Arkin won for Little Miss Sunshine was the long overdue narrative. It was more like a career achievement award . I still think that Eddie Murphy will win a Oscar one day. I wish there should have been a tie between Murphy and Arkin. Eddie Murphy should been nominated for the nutty professor as Best Actor in 1996.
Great video, as always! Although I’m happy with Arkin’s win, I think I would have voted for Jackie Earle Haley. He was so excellent as that troubled and troubling character. It’s great that Sean Penn and Kate Winslet each played a part in his ending up getting the role; I’ve a feeling he would have thanked them in his acceptance speech had he won.
The crazy thing is I remember when Sandra bullock was on her winning strike for the blind side back in early 2010 she released a horrible critically penned film called about all about Steve and literally won a razzie award for worst actress a week before she won the Oscar for the blind side I wonder what made her situation different from Eddie in terms of norbit ruining his Oscar win for dreamgirls
I think the difference is All About Steve came and went the previous September while Norbit opened during Oscar voting in February. I’m not sure Oscar voters even had All About Steve in their memory when it came time to vote for Best Actress in early 2010.
@@TheAwardsContender ohh that make sense tbh and watching be kind rewind Sandra had the huge success of the proposal to make sure all about Steve didn’t exist the duality success of the proposal and the blind side helped Sandra’s narrative of the funny popular comedian making a great transition to dramatic work
Alan Arkin over Eddie Murphy in my opinion is the most surprising upset Oscar win. I remember reading an Entertainment Weekly article that year where they predicted the oscar winners. They predicted Eddie Murphy to win that year, but said if he should lose, it was because of Norbit. Maybe they were right. It's a shame though because Eddie was brilliant in Dreamgirls. Probably his best dramatic performance ever.
While I adore Alan Arkin’s unfiltered, flawed, but warm grandpa in Little Miss Sunshine, I was really routing for Djmon Hounsou in Blood Diamond. Probably category fraud, but it was powerful all the way through, and a much more likable character than Leo’s. His first nomination in In America was beautiful and was my primer for when he had received his second nomination. Such an incredible actor that needs more roles that are fitting of his acting prowess. Not to say that Eddie Murphy wasn’t on my mind, but I probably had him next, and that boosted after his Barbara Walters interview. Worse, to add insult to injury, Norbit ended up receiving an Academy Award nomination for makeup the following year 🤦♂️. I didn’t see it because it was apart of his decline in his career. I was disappointed that he didn’t receive a nomination for Dolomite is My Name. I do hope he has a renaissance of his own, but that TBA at this moment. Also hope Djmon Hounsou gets another Oscar nom soon and or wins. I gets in hind sight, Alan’s win was where the Academy could “correct” having passed him over for numerous other roles over a good 40 years between his last Oscar nom at the time and when he finally won it in 2007. I kinda wished that his character would have had more screen time, but it was a solid turn by Arkin, but I feel that the scene that got him the award had Abigail Breslin doing the heavy dramatic lifting. That is a shame that she’s yet to either have another shot or had a better trajectory in her career. I don’t say that peak Breslin. I do remember me routing for Abigail, but loved that Hudson took home the award for her stellar work in Dreamgirls. They just couldn’t deny her that. Hopefully Murphy lands a role that does the same where nobody could deny his brilliance in it, but it sucks that many great performances by minorities often get overlooked every year. Sorry for the rambling 😬.
Arkin was very good, but Murphy was better IMO. Though Jackie Earl Haley was excellent in Little Children. That film deserves more attention. I do think Murphy should have won, but you laid out the reasons as to why he lost very well. Keep up the great work Brian, take care!
I think that Eddie Murphy should have won for Dreamgirls. I also think that another reason that he did not win was that since Jennifer Hudson already had it in the bag and that the film was not nominated for Best Picture. The last time two actors won an Oscar for the same film that was not nominated for Best Picture was Hud in 1963 when Patricia Neal (Best Actress) and Melvyn Douglas (Best Supporting Actor) won, by the way Bill Condon is not an Oscar winning Director he is an Oscar winning Screenwriter when he won Best Adapted Screenplay for Gods and Monsters.
Little Miss Sunshine is an amazing film! I still rewatch it till this day. It’s funny, sweet and nice! It’s awesome and all the performances were fantastic! Sure Arkin’s character doesn’t make it to the end, but I don’t think he is in very little of the movie, he is in enough. He is supporting after all. His scenes are extremely memorable. I especially love his advices to Paul Dano’s character. I like Eddie Murphy a lot, he was also great. Either winning would have been fine. But Little Miss Sunshine is in my opinion the better and more memorable film. Also in a little film, things are more centered on the characters and acting. In a big musical the focus is on the music, dancing, costumes, cinematography.
The most surprising thing about this category was that they went with Mark Wahlberg in The Departed when they could have easily gone with Jack Nicholson or Matt Damon
Matt Damon was fine in "The Departed" but it wasn't Oscar worthy. And Jack was more-or-less typical crazy Jack in the film. Whereas Mark Wahlberg really stood out and was almost a scene-stealer so, he surprised many in his role. I think that's why he got it. And I agree with the nomination.
Djimon Hounsou did the BEST performance out of these 5 nominations, even better than Murphy's - his scenes are bigger than life and so emotional in Africa, suffering for his son and his own safety. Djimon should've won, easily!
That was also the year Guillermo Navarro shocked by winning Best Cinematography for Pan's Labyrinth over Emmanuel Lubezki for Children of Men, so Alan Arkin did not provide the only shock... also, Pan's Labyrinth lost Best Foreign Language Film to The Lives of Others, which was also quite surprising given that Pan's Labyrinth had five other nominations and Lives of Others only had the one (though that was also the decade that Amelie lost in the same situation)... As someone who absolutely adores Little Miss Sunshine (it's a movie I've seen so many times and know by heart), while I'm really happy that Alan Arkin won the Oscar for that, a part of me wishes that nomination and win had gone to Steve Carrell for that same movie (it's his absolute best performance and he's doing something we hadn't seen from him at the time), or maybe even Paul Dano... I still love Alan Arkin in it though...
i think you could also say that alan arkin winning the bafta that year was also another reason he won that oscar for that year.....after all the BAFTA and the SAG is the two big precursors to the Academy
Great video. I think the fact that Wahlberg has the final, redemptive scene in The Departed is what mostly lead to his nomination. I didn't care for his performance much, it was too "Boston" on top of "Boston" and if that was the point, it was a one-joke performance amongst many other more deserving performances in that film
In living color - 1 Oscar Mad tv - 1 Oscar SNL- 0 oscars SNL has been on air for almost 50 years some cast member is going to break through and will win the Oscar in the future it’s just a matter of time.
You have great segments and I really enjoy your excellent observations. It would make the segments more interesting if you worked on your voice intonation. You always hit the same downward notes. It is repetitive and a narrator needs variety. You seem to be rushing because of it.
@@TheAwardsContender you're very welcome. You have amazing knowledge to share and you have a gift for sharing your astute observations. Bravo! You deserve success for what you do. Very intelligent commentary. I do this for my friends by writing articles for them and have critical conversations, so they may appreciate the art of film more.
Alan was fabulous as the grandpa, he showed a lot of different emotions and felt real. He had more to do and go with his character than Murphy in his. I heard a rumor at the time that at the time the rumor was Eddie pissed off a lot of actors and producers who had a lot of money and campaigning behind them to go against Eddie.
I have watched 'Dreamgirls' and 'Little Miss Sunshine'. While Murphy's performance is good Arkin deserved to win. Arkin's performance made his character likeable.
Little Miss Sunshine and The Departed were my two favorite films of 2006. Those two movies were neck and neck to win Best Picture that year, I would’ve been happy if either film won since it’s like choosing between apples and oranges to me. Very happy about The Departed winning Picture and Scorsese’s overdue Director Oscar. But Alan Arkin winning Supporting Actor was quite a surprise. Even only having 15 minutes of screen time, I felt like Arkin made the most of it with his humor, charm and few heartfelt scenes. I’d say that scene in the hotel where he tells Oliver she’ll never be a loser is what earned him the Oscar. Eddie Murphy definitely did a lot in Dreamgirls showing his singing chops, being funny, energetic and charismatic. The primary reason I believe Eddie Murphy lost is because of Norbit, a critically panned movie released during his awards campaign decreased his chances to win an Oscar.
If the Academy didn’t give Murphy the Oscar because of Norbit, it says more about the Academy than Murphy. What it says is that an individual performance doesn’t matter. They judge on other things. This may be why viewership has been on a steady decline the last 20 years. People just can’t take the award or Academy seriously. Murphy simply was robbed.
I remember this being a shock back in 07, and the rumor being that Murphy had stormed off the venue. But Arkin did not deserve that oscar that year it was a good performance but Murphy and Haley were better
Man poor Eddie. But I do blame Norbit a lot. I have never watched it, don't plan to. But the trailer itself is bad enough so I blame Norbit for ruining Eddie's oscar chances. If you compare his role from Dreamgirls to even the Norbit trailer you will see a big difference of what he can do. And Alan Arkin is a legend if anyone was going to surprise win it deserved to be him, I had such a crush on him in Wait until Dark(also the first Audrey Hepburn film I ever watched) so I'm glad Arkin got his oscar.
Just seeing this video, so I am late on the response. I completely agree that Murphy should have won. I’m not a huge fan of musicals, but his performance was electrifying. I do prefer LMS as a whole to Dreamgirls, but I am glad that if anyone else won, it was at least Arkin. Though I do think Carell was more than worthy of a nom too for the same film.
The only thing in "Dreamgirls" that transcends cardboard artifice and is recognizably grounded in reality is Jamie Foxx's performance. Everything else in it is spectacularly unconvincing and underwritten. Murphy and Hudson sang along to music that wasn't at all indicative of the Motown sound it was ostensibly imitating, and no one in the picture has a fully dimensional character to play. So I was pleasantly surprised by Murphy's loss and would have been regardless of who beat him...yet I don't grok the acclaim for Arkin's work either. "Little Miss Sunshine" doesn't demand much from him or stretch his talent in any way. Familiar dirty grandpa schtick. I liked the movie a great deal, but he seemed tangential to its success. I haven't looked at it since it came out and I'm curious to take another gander and see if I can figure out what the fuss was about. Jackie Earle Haley gave the only great performance in the category, the others didn't deserve to be there.
Djimon honsu peformance in blood diamond blows both of their peformance out the fucking window he stole every scene he was in he should have won all the awards 😢
I sometimes wonder if Eddie had lost because of the controversy around him denying his child with Mel B at the time, who knows... Maybe BAFTA voters are protective of their Spice Girls 😅
The reality is that Alan Arkin "defeated" 3 other actors besides Murphy. It is not as though it was between Arkin and Murphy only; there were five nominated actors: Alan Arkin, Mark Wahlberg, Djimon Honsou, Eddie Murphy and Jackie Haley. The title of the video is rather reductive in nature, as though it was a common boxing match. I'm glad the award is now announced "...And the Oscar goes to...." Much classier.
IMO Eddie should have won it that year based on range and execution alone. No contest. I love Arkin; and even at his age he may still get a nomination down the line. But actors -- defined in media/culture as comic actors -- have a much slimmer chance. Of all the SNL alums, Murphy and Murray showed the greatest dramatic range and the best odds to win an AA. Chase is perhaps the only other male alum that had a shot in the 70s - 80s. That time has come to pass. At present, Katherine Wiig may be the last great SNL hope for an Oscar (as either a writer or actor).
I don't understand why Alan Arkin was even nominated at all. His character and performance was barely memorable at all. Paul Dano was fantastic in Little Miss Sunshine and so was Steve Carell, who really played against type. Either of them should've gotten the nomination.
Indeed “Little Miss Sunshine” is a PHENOMENAL film as was “Dreamgirls,” which the BEST musical I’ve seen since “Chicago” at that time. As much as I wanted Eddie to win, I do blame “Norbit” for his loss because I think Paramount wanted to capitalize on his pending win but in the end, the studio cost Eddie his Oscar. Paramount got themselves to blame for that.
You left off another SNL alumn who was nominated for an Oscar. Randy Quaid was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for The Last Detail and also picked up BAFTA and GG noms. He didn't join the SNL cast until about 10 years later, but still...
If someone who should have upset Murphy that year was Haley...Haley was dauntingly good in Little Children..I am sorry but I don't find Arkin's character had enough nuance to win..just a grandpa riding in a van.Little Children way better movie than Little Miss Sunshine By the way, still waiting for Meryl Streep part 2 , Brian 🤔🤔
I think beyond Norbit, there was Murphy’s refusal to acknowledge Mel B’s daughter. I rem feeling v disgusted by him around the time he got the Dreamgirls nom.
I saw every performance in the supporting category.. Djimon Honsou should have won instead of alan arkin.. Djimon has more acting range with that performance than alan. I think alan won because it was his third nod from the 70's and Little miss sunshine is a Best Picture Contender. Dream Girls is not.. If Dream girls is a best Picture Contender too maybe eddie could have won.
Yeah that one was a shock, I nearly cried for Eddie!! You didn't mention the clear racism that academy voters have shown over the years... you don't think it played a role here??
I never understood the love for little miss sunshine. It's a sweet film, but it felt solid not great. It's funny how it was huge and then quickly forgotten. Eddie should have won, but norbit came out during voting season. I think more than anything else, that movie cost him an Oscar.
@@janlyrliu9697 you right but I was saying Stallone was the alleged favorite because of his level of fame and it was his big shot at finally winning but Rylance had a good campaign and respect of his peers
I find it hard to believe that Academy members watched both Little Miss Sunshine AND Norbit. The Academy was a lot older and whiter back then in ‘07. I saw both films in the theater. I feel like Murphy was robbed. Maybe this was revenge for what he said about the Oscars abysmal lack of diversity when it came to wins by black people at the time.
Also it isn't like he didn't have any music performance experience. He was a one hit wonder plus he did alot of joke performances before like his James Brown hot tub party skits from SNL. He should of been nominated for Dolemiite is my Name as well.
He was nominated at a producer he has 2 oscar nominations 1 for acting in the departed & one as a producer for the fighter I know he was a contender for best actor but didn't make the cut I do think he should've been nominations for his acting tho
Sorry, but Jackie Earle Haley deserved the win. He had the same comeback story as the dude from everything everywhere but a much more riveting performance.
Well, Robert Downey Jr. won for "Oppenheimer," so he is the first former SNL cast member to win an Oscar.
Little children is such an underrated movie and one of my favorites. I think the woman who played Haley's mom in the movie should’ve been nominated for supporting actress.
Well said! Excellent cast…overlooked movie.
And considering she recently passed away a nomination would have been special to a character actress such as Phyllis Sommerville.
Agreed!!
@@jhhone Phyllis Sommerville was a marvel - whenever I see her I just remember her telling Charlotte in the Sex and the City series ' I bet you have a beautiful ( the C word) dear'.... bloody hilarious
My opinion on Dreamgirls as a whole; Bill Condon took the soul out of Dreamgirls. Hudson lucked out because of the hyperfocus on Effie and the number And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going, but the rest of the cast and film suffered in comparison to the stage musical. This includes Murphy, who's Jimmy Early was great but could've benefitted from additional scenes highlighting the effects of his drug use or the decline of his career. But that's just my take on it. My choices that year were either Murphy or Haley.
Great take. Thanks for watching!
I absolutely love Eddie Murphy's performance in "Dreamgirls" and I will always feel that he was robbed of the Oscar.
Dreamgirls was also much better movie and has aged better than Little Miss Sunshine.
But Norbit movies really hurt Murphy. It’s so rare for comedians to be taken seriously that you can’t do as low brow humor as possible while trying to get the Oscar. Oscar is treated like a career adward by many, and not just for one performance. That’s why people are rooting for many people who haven’t won yet to get awards before even seeing a movie they could win for. It’s not just about the performance in that movie. Unless it’s really undeniable.
Yes, it was a great performance!
Murphy was great in the film, but in my opinion Little Miss Sunshine is a much better film and has aged beautifully. I still rewatch it to this day. It’s an amazing film with a good heart and great performances.
Otherwise, I do agree Norbit really hurt Murphy’s chances.
Same !! I’ve seen both films and both actors were great In them but Eddie was just better and he had more screen time too
@@TheAwardsContenderRobert Downey Jr
I would argue that a big reason Eddie lost the Oscar was due to his personal life and the headlines he was getting for it around that time. Murphy's then-girlfriend Melanie Brown was pregnant with his daughter, and he denied the child was his and demanded a blood test. It generated a lot of negative press at the time.
I highly doubt it. I think it was simply one of those "long overdue" situations where Arkin was given the award because of the longevity of his career, since he had never won one.
@@hutch1197 I don't think there has to be 'one' factor though. The Academy is known to be picky and snobbish (quite frankly) so even if Norbit and him being a jerk to Mel B turned a few people off, that could have allowed the upset to happen. While Eddie had a comeback narrative, media coverage was getting spoiled by Norbit and him being a jerk. I just think surprise wins that involve votes include multiple factors, not just one thing. Alan Arkin's career narrative of course contributed as well. I feel the same way about politics. I recommend reading secret Oscar ballots because it's crazy how some people decide to vote the way that they do.
I forgot that was at the same time, and it certainly doesn’t make him look good. His personal life is messy otherwise too, I think he has ten children.
There is also speculation that there was a fallout from Norbit which was released in early 2007 before the Oscars were presented. The embarrassment of that film detracted from and overshadowed his performance in Dreamgirls.
@@goodgodfather54 I highly doubt NORBIT caused too many problems, especially since both Julianne Moore and Eddie Redmayne both won Oscars in the same year despite each appearing in separate flops at the same time (THE SEVENTH SON for Moore and JUPITER ASCENDING for Redmayne).
Great video! Arkin and Murphy are both world class actors who gave Oscar-caliber performances that year. My vote still would have gone to Murphy, and I think he deserved a nomination ten years earlier for The Nutty Professor!
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Watch Infernal Affairs.
It’s the original.
The Departed was based off of Infernal Affairs, and I like it a lot more.
Oooh, will do!
I still think that Eddie Murphy should had won the Oscar for best supporting actor for Dream girls because he was absolutely brilliant as Jimmy "Thunder" Early. The reason why Alan Arkin won for Little Miss Sunshine was the long overdue narrative. It was more like a career achievement award . I still think that Eddie Murphy will win a Oscar one day. I wish there should have been a tie between Murphy and Arkin. Eddie Murphy should been nominated for the nutty professor as Best Actor in 1996.
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Great video, as always! Although I’m happy with Arkin’s win, I think I would have voted for Jackie Earle Haley. He was so excellent as that troubled and troubling character. It’s great that Sean Penn and Kate Winslet each played a part in his ending up getting the role; I’ve a feeling he would have thanked them in his acceptance speech had he won.
Thank you!!
Norbit!! I blame Norbit!!! They said no way we're giving that guy an Oscar!! Lol. I hate Norbit so much!!
The crazy thing is I remember when Sandra bullock was on her winning strike for the blind side back in early 2010 she released a horrible critically penned film called about all about Steve and literally won a razzie award for worst actress a week before she won the Oscar for the blind side I wonder what made her situation different from Eddie in terms of norbit ruining his Oscar win for dreamgirls
I think the difference is All About Steve came and went the previous September while Norbit opened during Oscar voting in February. I’m not sure Oscar voters even had All About Steve in their memory when it came time to vote for Best Actress in early 2010.
@@TheAwardsContender ohh that make sense tbh and watching be kind rewind Sandra had the huge success of the proposal to make sure all about Steve didn’t exist the duality success of the proposal and the blind side helped Sandra’s narrative of the funny popular comedian making a great transition to dramatic work
R.I.P. Alan Arkin. Preferred Eddie but Alan gave a memorable performance in Little Miss Sunshine. Good roundup of his career in this video, Brian.
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Alan Arkin over Eddie Murphy in my opinion is the most surprising upset Oscar win. I remember reading an Entertainment Weekly article that year where they predicted the oscar winners. They predicted Eddie Murphy to win that year, but said if he should lose, it was because of Norbit. Maybe they were right. It's a shame though because Eddie was brilliant in Dreamgirls. Probably his best dramatic performance ever.
While I adore Alan Arkin’s unfiltered, flawed, but warm grandpa in Little Miss Sunshine, I was really routing for Djmon Hounsou in Blood Diamond. Probably category fraud, but it was powerful all the way through, and a much more likable character than Leo’s. His first nomination in In America was beautiful and was my primer for when he had received his second nomination. Such an incredible actor that needs more roles that are fitting of his acting prowess. Not to say that Eddie Murphy wasn’t on my mind, but I probably had him next, and that boosted after his Barbara Walters interview. Worse, to add insult to injury, Norbit ended up receiving an Academy Award nomination for makeup the following year 🤦♂️. I didn’t see it because it was apart of his decline in his career. I was disappointed that he didn’t receive a nomination for Dolomite is My Name. I do hope he has a renaissance of his own, but that TBA at this moment. Also hope Djmon Hounsou gets another Oscar nom soon and or wins. I gets in hind sight, Alan’s win was where the Academy could “correct” having passed him over for numerous other roles over a good 40 years between his last Oscar nom at the time and when he finally won it in 2007. I kinda wished that his character would have had more screen time, but it was a solid turn by Arkin, but I feel that the scene that got him the award had Abigail Breslin doing the heavy dramatic lifting. That is a shame that she’s yet to either have another shot or had a better trajectory in her career. I don’t say that peak Breslin. I do remember me routing for Abigail, but loved that Hudson took home the award for her stellar work in Dreamgirls. They just couldn’t deny her that. Hopefully Murphy lands a role that does the same where nobody could deny his brilliance in it, but it sucks that many great performances by minorities often get overlooked every year. Sorry for the rambling 😬.
Thank you for your thorough comment!
Loved Jennifer but I’d have given her Oscar to Cate in Notes on a scandal
Robert won his oscar now
Arkin was very good, but Murphy was better IMO. Though Jackie Earl Haley was excellent in Little Children. That film deserves more attention. I do think Murphy should have won, but you laid out the reasons as to why he lost very well. Keep up the great work Brian, take care!
Thank you!!
Alan Arkin gave a timeless performance, his character probably wouldn’t have been as likable in someone else’s hands.
I think that Eddie Murphy should have won for Dreamgirls. I also think that another reason that he did not win was that since Jennifer Hudson already had it in the bag and that the film was not nominated for Best Picture. The last time two actors won an Oscar for the same film that was not nominated for Best Picture was Hud in 1963 when Patricia Neal (Best Actress) and Melvyn Douglas (Best Supporting Actor) won, by the way Bill Condon is not an Oscar winning Director he is an Oscar winning Screenwriter when he won Best Adapted Screenplay for Gods and Monsters.
Lets not forget the little thing called RACISM
@@ikexbankai Racism has nothing to do with it, that is an outrageous and stupid remark on your part.
You know Hudson was only the 3rd black supporting actress to win ever? Her win was after 17 years when Whoopi Goldberg (2nd winner) won hers right?
I can name 20 actors who would have been as good in Alan’s role. That says it all.
@@SoulKnightKing Yes, and it was 21 years later and what is your point?
Could you please consider making a video about Mark Rylance defeating Sylvester Stallone in this very category several years ago? Thanks!
Yes, would love to explore that one down the line!
Another great video, I loved you cliffhanger for the following weeks haha, next videos can't come soon enough....
Yay, thanks so much!
Norbit was hilarious … made me laugh harder than I’ve ever did
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2007 was an interesting year for surprise wins because of the wins for both Swinton and Cortillard!
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I was rooting for Eddie Murphy but one can't be mad at a win for Arkin
Very true!
Jackie Earle Haley should have won for "little children".
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Little Miss Sunshine is an amazing film! I still rewatch it till this day. It’s funny, sweet and nice! It’s awesome and all the performances were fantastic! Sure Arkin’s character doesn’t make it to the end, but I don’t think he is in very little of the movie, he is in enough. He is supporting after all. His scenes are extremely memorable. I especially love his advices to Paul Dano’s character.
I like Eddie Murphy a lot, he was also great. Either winning would have been fine. But Little Miss Sunshine is in my opinion the better and more memorable film. Also in a little film, things are more centered on the characters and acting. In a big musical the focus is on the music, dancing, costumes, cinematography.
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Could you do a video about Don Ameche? Or maybe a history of actors/actresses who won for sci-fi or fantasy films?
Good idea!
YOUR TOPICS ARE ALWAYS SO GOOD! I’M STILL MAD ABOUT THIS
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The most surprising thing about this category was that they went with Mark Wahlberg in The Departed when they could have easily gone with Jack Nicholson or Matt Damon
I know!
Matt Damon was fine in "The Departed" but it wasn't Oscar worthy. And Jack was more-or-less typical crazy Jack in the film. Whereas Mark Wahlberg really stood out and was almost a scene-stealer so, he surprised many in his role. I think that's why he got it. And I agree with the nomination.
I remember it was shocking when Eddie lost.
Dreamgirls not getting nominated Best Picture was also super SUS given it had the most nominations
If it was post 2016 Eddie would have won. Eddie was hurt by racism
@@ikexbankai a black actor literally won the Oscar for leading actor the same night
@@ikexbankai then 2 years prior, Jamie Foxx won for Ray. So wft r u talking about?
@@giomergulferic6476 as there ever been a night where more than two black actors won Oscars at the same time?
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Bowfinger is the role Murphy should’ve won an Oscar for. Brilliant performance
Djimon Hounsou did the BEST performance out of these 5 nominations, even better than Murphy's - his scenes are bigger than life and so emotional in Africa, suffering for his son and his own safety. Djimon should've won, easily!
Surprises me that Toni Collette didn't get a Best Actress Oscar Nomination for Little Miss Sunshine.
You forgot about Randy Quaid who was already a nominee before he was on SNL.
That was also the year Guillermo Navarro shocked by winning Best Cinematography for Pan's Labyrinth over Emmanuel Lubezki for Children of Men, so Alan Arkin did not provide the only shock... also, Pan's Labyrinth lost Best Foreign Language Film to The Lives of Others, which was also quite surprising given that Pan's Labyrinth had five other nominations and Lives of Others only had the one (though that was also the decade that Amelie lost in the same situation)... As someone who absolutely adores Little Miss Sunshine (it's a movie I've seen so many times and know by heart), while I'm really happy that Alan Arkin won the Oscar for that, a part of me wishes that nomination and win had gone to Steve Carrell for that same movie (it's his absolute best performance and he's doing something we hadn't seen from him at the time), or maybe even Paul Dano... I still love Alan Arkin in it though...
i think you could also say that alan arkin winning the bafta that year was also another reason he won that oscar for that year.....after all the BAFTA and the SAG is the two big precursors to the Academy
Yes, absolutely!
Great video. I think the fact that Wahlberg has the final, redemptive scene in The Departed is what mostly lead to his nomination. I didn't care for his performance much, it was too "Boston" on top of "Boston" and if that was the point, it was a one-joke performance amongst many other more deserving performances in that film
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In living color - 1 Oscar
Mad tv - 1 Oscar
SNL- 0 oscars
SNL has been on air for almost 50 years some cast member is going to break through and will win the Oscar in the future it’s just a matter of time.
Interesting point!
Definitely Norbit. I can see an Oscar win in Bill Hader’s future.
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on Tilda!!
Yay, that will be a fun one!
I was WAITING for this video!
Yay!
What you think about Oscar to Christoph Waltz vs Tommy Lee Jones???
Good idea!
Don’t forget Laurie Metcalf!
You have great segments and I really enjoy your excellent observations. It would make the segments more interesting if you worked on your voice intonation. You always hit the same downward notes. It is repetitive and a narrator needs variety. You seem to be rushing because of it.
I’ll try to do better. Thanks for watching!
@@TheAwardsContender you're very welcome. You have amazing knowledge to share and you have a gift for sharing your astute observations. Bravo! You deserve success for what you do. Very intelligent commentary. I do this for my friends by writing articles for them and have critical conversations, so they may appreciate the art of film more.
Alan was fabulous as the grandpa, he showed a lot of different emotions and felt real. He had more to do and go with his character than Murphy in his. I heard a rumor at the time that at the time the rumor was Eddie pissed off a lot of actors and producers who had a lot of money and campaigning behind them to go against Eddie.
I personally would’ve given it to Djimon Hounsou. Particularly that scene in prison early on his heartbreaking
He’s such a great actor!
The ultimate example of an Oscar being awarded for a career.
I have watched 'Dreamgirls' and 'Little Miss Sunshine'. While Murphy's performance is good Arkin deserved to win. Arkin's performance made his character likeable.
I thought you weren't going to mention "Norbit" that sort of situation had effected other actors it has a name "The Norbit Effect".
Absolutely!
Little Miss Sunshine and The Departed were my two favorite films of 2006. Those two movies were neck and neck to win Best Picture that year, I would’ve been happy if either film won since it’s like choosing between apples and oranges to me. Very happy about The Departed winning Picture and Scorsese’s overdue Director Oscar. But Alan Arkin winning Supporting Actor was quite a surprise. Even only having 15 minutes of screen time, I felt like Arkin made the most of it with his humor, charm and few heartfelt scenes. I’d say that scene in the hotel where he tells Oliver she’ll never be a loser is what earned him the Oscar. Eddie Murphy definitely did a lot in Dreamgirls showing his singing chops, being funny, energetic and charismatic. The primary reason I believe Eddie Murphy lost is because of Norbit, a critically panned movie released during his awards campaign decreased his chances to win an Oscar.
If the Academy didn’t give Murphy the Oscar because of Norbit, it says more about the Academy than Murphy. What it says is that an individual performance doesn’t matter. They judge on other things. This may be why viewership has been on a steady decline the last 20 years. People just can’t take the award or Academy seriously. Murphy simply was robbed.
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I remember this being a shock back in 07, and the rumor being that Murphy had stormed off the venue. But Arkin did not deserve that oscar that year it was a good performance but Murphy and Haley were better
Agreed!
Great video as always!!!
Thank you so much!!
Man poor Eddie. But I do blame Norbit a lot. I have never watched it, don't plan to. But the trailer itself is bad enough so I blame Norbit for ruining Eddie's oscar chances. If you compare his role from Dreamgirls to even the Norbit trailer you will see a big difference of what he can do. And Alan Arkin is a legend if anyone was going to surprise win it deserved to be him, I had such a crush on him in Wait until Dark(also the first Audrey Hepburn film I ever watched) so I'm glad Arkin got his oscar.
Same here!
Just seeing this video, so I am late on the response. I completely agree that Murphy should have won. I’m not a huge fan of musicals, but his performance was electrifying. I do prefer LMS as a whole to Dreamgirls, but I am glad that if anyone else won, it was at least Arkin. Though I do think Carell was more than worthy of a nom too for the same film.
Suggestion Anthony Hopkins wins over Chadwick boseman
I personally think Eddie should have won that year.
Yes!
The only thing in "Dreamgirls" that transcends cardboard artifice and is recognizably grounded in reality is Jamie Foxx's performance. Everything else in it is spectacularly unconvincing and underwritten. Murphy and Hudson sang along to music that wasn't at all indicative of the Motown sound it was ostensibly imitating, and no one in the picture has a fully dimensional character to play. So I was pleasantly surprised by Murphy's loss and would have been regardless of who beat him...yet I don't grok the acclaim for Arkin's work either. "Little Miss Sunshine" doesn't demand much from him or stretch his talent in any way. Familiar dirty grandpa schtick. I liked the movie a great deal, but he seemed tangential to its success. I haven't looked at it since it came out and I'm curious to take another gander and see if I can figure out what the fuss was about. Jackie Earle Haley gave the only great performance in the category, the others didn't deserve to be there.
I am still pushing for a video on Cathy Bates’ win.
Down the road for sure!
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I remember when this happened I ran and watched Little Miss Sunshine so fast. I was so sure Eddie had it locked I had to see how this happened.
I know!
I love shocker wins too! Last year was sooo predictable it wasn’t even funny. Fingers crossed for at least one upset next year
Yes, they’re the best!
The oscars has previously received criticism for lack of diversity in its winners so we shouldn't overlook the racial factor....
Djimon honsu peformance in blood diamond blows both of their peformance out the fucking window he stole every scene he was in he should have won all the awards 😢
He’s amazing!!
I sometimes wonder if Eddie had lost because of the controversy around him denying his child with Mel B at the time, who knows... Maybe BAFTA voters are protective of their Spice Girls 😅
The reality is that Alan Arkin "defeated" 3 other actors besides Murphy. It is not as though it was between Arkin and Murphy only; there were five nominated actors: Alan Arkin, Mark Wahlberg, Djimon Honsou, Eddie Murphy and Jackie Haley. The title of the video is rather reductive in nature, as though it was a common boxing match. I'm glad the award is now announced "...And the Oscar goes to...." Much classier.
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In Brian’s defense, Arkin and Murphy were the two nominees that stood the best chance of winning their category.
I likes Norbit
IMO Eddie should have won it that year based on range and execution alone. No contest. I love Arkin; and even at his age he may still get a nomination down the line. But actors -- defined in media/culture as comic actors -- have a much slimmer chance. Of all the SNL alums, Murphy and Murray showed the greatest dramatic range and the best odds to win an AA. Chase is perhaps the only other male alum that had a shot in the 70s - 80s. That time has come to pass. At present, Katherine Wiig may be the last great SNL hope for an Oscar (as either a writer or actor).
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I don't understand why Alan Arkin was even nominated at all. His character and performance was barely memorable at all. Paul Dano was fantastic in Little Miss Sunshine and so was Steve Carell, who really played against type. Either of them should've gotten the nomination.
Indeed “Little Miss Sunshine” is a PHENOMENAL film as was “Dreamgirls,” which the BEST musical I’ve seen since “Chicago” at that time. As much as I wanted Eddie to win, I do blame “Norbit” for his loss because I think Paramount wanted to capitalize on his pending win but in the end, the studio cost Eddie his Oscar. Paramount got themselves to blame for that.
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The studio actually wanted to hold it back, Eddie wanted to release it.
Little Miss Sunshine is one of my top 10 favorite films and Alan Arkin was very good but I agree that Eddie Murphy definitely deserved the win.
I enjoyed both performances, but Haley would’ve been my pick!
Small correction - Dreamgirls received eight nominations but only got into six categories. Three of its nominations were for Best Original Song.
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@@TheAwardsContender Is this the film that earned the most nominations without nabbing Picture, Director or Screenplay?
@@raymondtitano3819 Probably yea.
I think Eddie should have won!!
Yep!
I'm sure "Norbit" was the main reason Eddie lost. For me, Jack Nicholson was the performance that should have been recognized that year,
Yes, agreed. And Nicholson would’ve been a great nominee!
You left off another SNL alumn who was nominated for an Oscar. Randy Quaid was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for The Last Detail and also picked up BAFTA and GG noms. He didn't join the SNL cast until about 10 years later, but still...
Could you do a video about bette davis getting rob of the oscar for all about eve
Eddie’s performance seemed like a Snl skit and not a dramatic performance
And now an SNL cast member has won!!
If someone who should have upset Murphy that year was Haley...Haley was dauntingly good in Little Children..I am sorry but I don't find Arkin's character had enough nuance to win..just a grandpa riding in a van.Little Children way better movie than Little Miss Sunshine
By the way, still waiting for Meryl Streep part 2 , Brian 🤔🤔
Agreed! And stay tuned for Part 2!
Eddie losing was the worst loss for me, cuz he slayed in Dreamgirls
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I think beyond Norbit, there was Murphy’s refusal to acknowledge Mel B’s daughter. I rem feeling v disgusted by him around the time he got the Dreamgirls nom.
Can u do a video on scarlett johansson?
Good idea!
I saw every performance in the supporting category.. Djimon Honsou should have won instead of alan arkin.. Djimon has more acting range with that performance than alan. I think alan won because it was his third nod from the 70's and Little miss sunshine is a Best Picture Contender. Dream Girls is not.. If Dream girls is a best Picture Contender too maybe eddie could have won.
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didn't finish yet but just had to comment that YES ADAM SANDLER SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED FOR UNCUT GEMS! ok now back to the vid lol
Haha agreed!
Yeah that one was a shock, I nearly cried for Eddie!! You didn't mention the clear racism that academy voters have shown over the years... you don't think it played a role here??
If racism was a play then Jennifer Hudson would not have won. I think releasing Norbit during voting season is what killed Murphy’s chances.
It's always about the race huh? Where in fact both the leading actor and supporting actress are both black
@@giomergulferic6476 But had Eddie won, that would have been the first time that 3 black actors won acting Oscars on the same night.
It did. But is clear that most people in this thread have no clue what systemic racism is. No use conversing with ignorance.
@@kirwynsutherland2450 CLEARLY!!! Thank you Kirwyn!! 🙏🏻
I always thought Eddie suffered because he had a spice girl pregnant at the time
One word "Norbit"
I put that comment in before I got to finish the video
Didn’t help!
Fun fact Norbit is the only movie I have ever walked out of. Horrible timing for his oscar nomination
Reason number six which could probably be considered the main reason for Eddie Murphy losing: racism. I know big shocker
I never understood the love for little miss sunshine. It's a sweet film, but it felt solid not great. It's funny how it was huge and then quickly forgotten.
Eddie should have won, but norbit came out during voting season. I think more than anything else, that movie cost him an Oscar.
Yes, agreed!
Cause he did norbit
Yup!
EDDIE WAS CHEATAED HERE !!!!!! HE SHOULD HAVE WON !!!!
Would’ve been a great win!
The mark rylance win is way weirder than the Arkin win
Rylance has actually been a major actor in Britain for a while, so he presumably got all of their votes over Stallone.
Not really cos Stallone didn’t get a nom for bafta or sag, if I rem correctly
@@janlyrliu9697 you right but I was saying Stallone was the alleged favorite because of his level of fame and it was his big shot at finally winning but Rylance had a good campaign and respect of his peers
Yep!
I find it hard to believe that Academy members watched both Little Miss Sunshine AND Norbit. The Academy was a lot older and whiter back then in ‘07. I saw both films in the theater. I feel like Murphy was robbed. Maybe this was revenge for what he said about the Oscars abysmal lack of diversity when it came to wins by black people at the time.
Very true!
Only one reason he lost: Norbit
Eddie was definitely robbed. Little Miss Sunshine was great but he definitely was not the standout performance.
Murphy would’ve been a great win!
I haven’t watched yet but I can tell why Murphy lost with one word: Norbit.
I think I’m the only person that hated Little Miss Sunshine. It was not good and it didn’t deserve to be nominated.
Also it isn't like he didn't have any music performance experience. He was a one hit wonder plus he did alot of joke performances before like his James Brown hot tub party skits from SNL. He should of been nominated for Dolemiite is my Name as well.
Yup!
@@iamsoverybored878 His impersonation of James Brown was perfect, though. If he ever did a biopic of James Brown, he would have killed it.
One word for Eddie losing - Norbit.
Yup, didn’t help
I thought Mark Wahlberg was nominated in a movie in which he was nominated as a boxer?
He was nominated at a producer he has 2 oscar nominations 1 for acting in the departed & one as a producer for the fighter I know he was a contender for best actor but didn't make the cut I do think he should've been nominations for his acting tho
Sorry, but Jackie Earle Haley deserved the win. He had the same comeback story as the dude from everything everywhere but a much more riveting performance.
I hope Haley gets another Oscar Nomination someday.
Yep, that was robbery, and Alan Arkin character dies in the movie.
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