StarCraft 2 Low APM Challenge 2022! Protoss Rank Up Guide - Low Plat (Ep. 3)

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  • @SnkobArts
    @SnkobArts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Additional tip(s): Just like Ctrl clicking a unit will select all units of that type, Ctrl+Shift Clicking gets RID of all units of that type in your selection. Useful for deselecting spellcasters from your main army, or deselecting Non-Anti-air units when bringing the stalkers/chadrays back home to defend against the moota/BCs. Only-anti-Ground-attack army can keep damaging bases while your AA units come to home to play tag with the other player's base-strafing units. Your opponent's sick micro notwithstanding, imminent surrender (and humiliation) is inevitable. You can then contact your probe lawyers to file restraining orders against this blatant workplace harassment! 😘😤

  • @bobjohnson9201
    @bobjohnson9201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you Winter. This series broke my apathy and got me playing again. And helped me get back to being a gold league goober once again. Love the series!

  • @Hotshotben
    @Hotshotben 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Perfect intro! I won 2 games yesterday but my opponents were braindead. Watch me come back confidently tonight and lose all confidence after a rushed bane drop

  • @ludoviclagouardette7020
    @ludoviclagouardette7020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:54:00 You had such an evil grin when telling people to eat their widow mines... I love it

  • @Discerned_
    @Discerned_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta say your tutorials are good. I made to plat 3 zerg thanks to you, as well as my lack of sanity!

  • @ftlnetwork6067
    @ftlnetwork6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love when winter actually gets challenged. Makes for a fantastic video.

  • @bobjohnson9201
    @bobjohnson9201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winter is truly the most humble person I’ve ever seen.

  • @Se7eNiToS
    @Se7eNiToS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:04:35 just wait for it, the minerals line. Amazing timing, I laughed so hard!!!

  • @theefranchise1299
    @theefranchise1299 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great vid, BIGSAM is a RL friend, lived 4 houses down from me.. hes always been really good at SC even before broodwar and somehow i became addicted to it as well, but over the years he has learned more and perfected his strats, hes not a pro by any means but i think if matched up to some of these pros, he wouldnt be a push over by a long shot

  • @joesaxon3613
    @joesaxon3613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dunno know why it took me this long to put it together, but you are a dead ringer for Joseph Gordon-Levitt...

  • @Johnny-Joseph
    @Johnny-Joseph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    49:45 is hilarious, man is prepared everywhere xd

  • @dummymac3944
    @dummymac3944 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the tips you give, been playing 12-15 ranked games a day

  • @FonderTomato13
    @FonderTomato13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again incredible. I went from vibe b2gm, to this. I'm scared of micro'ing but your simple concepts. Make me understand its a muscle to build, just like macro'ing.

  • @junkerjorg2
    @junkerjorg2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT, THANKS WINTER

  • @dizastro5437
    @dizastro5437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best of this series. Loving it

  • @luisagra1829
    @luisagra1829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    omg i love u so much man, that intro was so good for me :,)

  • @Hotshotben
    @Hotshotben 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could we get a visual representation or explanation of how to figure out splash zones. Like how wide is a widow mine explosion, siege tank shot, colossus hitrsnge, etc?

  • @tusk3260
    @tusk3260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When going colossi i used to build a bunch of immortals first and supliment them with stalkers. Only need about 3 colossi with range upgrade thats a must have. Then have a huge number of stalkers and immortals. They wont go ultra because immortals hard counters them and immortals will kill buildings fast snd stays alive a long time. To counter you they will go corrupters but they will need a lot to get past your stalkers and that range upgrade makes it way harder for him to sniper your colossi, so he will make like 8 or more corrupters to snipe colissi. Thats a lot of army pop that cant do anything after that, so this is when you attack his base. This is when having all those immortals pays off. You go snipe his hive and important buildings then its clean up time and you win. Make sure not to kill corrupters and do the attack before he gets broodlords so spire and pool are first target then its hive and everything else. Have a few warp prism follow colossi for decoy against corruptets and to reinforce army with stalkers warp in. The stalkers alone when in critical mass can defeat lings but really they are there as meatshield for the immortals and colossi. It wasby using this composition of units that i first started to win against elite ai.

  • @tusk3260
    @tusk3260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to platinum by only making marines and hellbats. I went maccro, maccron and no micro at all. In late game id have 4 to 5 factory with reactors, 24 barracks with reactors, fully upgraded marines and hell bats. Id have 16 orbital command centers for constant mule drops and at make 48 marines and 8 to 10 hellbats at a time and rally accross the map. 2 units in que constantly for all barracks and factory. So as my attack wave of 48 marines and 8 - 10 helbats cross the map, another full attack wave is being built.
    -
    The way players play in starcraft is they counter attack right after they successfully defended but against me in you attack i have a new army already made by the time you cross the map. So i overrun my enemies with my constant attacks or i run out of minerals and lose. But my strategy worked in 9 out of 10 games due to my insane maccro that i learned from playing against elite ai constantly. I went from bronze league that i was stuck in for severals and gave up to play versus ai to platinum league and got back my confidence as i was playing against diamond leagues and winning. Then i played against some master league guys in customs games that i met in an arcade game called StarBattle, they were bragging that never ever win and turns out i beat them overwhelmingly: Altho they were able to defend against my constant attack waves, i was slowly and gradually building a secret battle cruiser fleet in my starting base, just 2 at a time. Eventually i started decreasing the number of marines and hellbats i was producing at once, making my attack waves smaller. The master lvl guys assumed i was running on minerals and started telling me in chat that i never had a chance at winning to begin with. The game was a 8 players ffa and by that time the only ones alive left were me and the 2 masters. I was laughting at them saying i was about to win while didnt believe me and kept battling each other, until i maxed out on battle cruisers and almost fully wiped out one of them. Then the other master player found out the damage i did and was in disbelief, he didnt see my battle cruisers yet and the master i wrekt first chose to remain silent until the second master player (the one that bragged the most) finally saw my battle cruisers and literally rage quited. It was hilarous, i was so happy i suddenly got up irl and as i did i clumsily hit my laptop causing to fall on the ground and breaking..... This was the last Starcraft game i ever played.
    -
    All in all, not a bad way to quit starcraft, makes it a great memory and easy to remember. Tho i was devastated when i accidentally broke my computer.

  • @martykowal
    @martykowal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for educating us plabs ! its earned me some wins ! youre the best!

    • @martykowal
      @martykowal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you speak it in a way thats easy to make happen! love your stuff!

  • @MrTube84
    @MrTube84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Winter great content here I appreciate it sir. I was thinking if is possible you add vids with a recap of openers like Vs cannon rush, vs 3 gates, reaps, lings rush from the perspective of each race. Great job man, thanks for the quality here! really helps!

  • @joshuaxiong8377
    @joshuaxiong8377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL, i like that.
    "There are random players, and then there are players who play random."
    i am most definitely a random player. it's more fun to just mess around with every race.

  • @marktrujillo344
    @marktrujillo344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Protect Winter at all costs. This man is genuine treasure..

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Liking before even watching the video :p

  • @WolfGangDealers
    @WolfGangDealers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm sure that the new balance patch shouldn't change too much of the protoss' gameplan. Just how they reach their gameplan.

    • @jakebrewable
      @jakebrewable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is this gameplan? I thought it was just get whatever and A move

    • @WolfGangDealers
      @WolfGangDealers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jakebrewable instead of going air a-move earlier, you make more ground a-move to get to air a-move armies.

  • @tiaanmunnik
    @tiaanmunnik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The glorious zergling slaughter, awesome.

  • @ForeverRin
    @ForeverRin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You would have my full focus in a 8 hour video

  • @SttarDustt606
    @SttarDustt606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like many others I want to go pro at sc2 but im so damn lazy after work lol and its scary not the players but the micro 😆 Also I want another heart from the late great WinterSC. Thank you.

  • @FoxiestDuck
    @FoxiestDuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Within 40seconds, I was called out. I do 5placements, get stomped then stop playing :D

  • @FearlessDad
    @FearlessDad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see some more disruptor play. Makes the game even more fun to watch when you go bowling for zerg

  • @nickjensen1004
    @nickjensen1004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent series, glad you are doing it for each race. I have 2 questions:
    1. Under what conditions and at what time should I build a second forge?
    2. Same question for a second robo?

  • @user-ec1yv5mp9d
    @user-ec1yv5mp9d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Winter, great vid but i still seek guidance. I'm mostly comfortable doing 2 base timings but trying to learn that highly panned macro style. The big thing for me is obviously taking that 3rd base and here comes the question. More often than not i see players take the linear third instead of the standard location. Can you elaborate further on why and when to choose which option? Thanks!

    • @TheAgavi
      @TheAgavi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You take the linear third if you want to expand further away from your opponent. Against terran it's a good idea because it prevents them dropping in your third and picking up and dropping in your main by the time you get down there.

    • @wh1sp3rr
      @wh1sp3rr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Day

  • @ghoraxe9000
    @ghoraxe9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've improved alot on my macro but .. not sure if micro will ever be my thing... I love my slow n steady position focused advances... It's just a style for me to build forward fortification... Gives my marines somewhere safe to retreat

    • @anonymouse3471
      @anonymouse3471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bunkers with the push is definitely a thing even pros do it

  • @JAKL6775
    @JAKL6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man that opening reminded me of my league of legends years xD

  • @simonkeen9776
    @simonkeen9776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Disruptor goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • @christophercoates3431
    @christophercoates3431 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the content. Keep it up!

  • @peterszupera1003
    @peterszupera1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Winter, thanks for the series, you inspired me to start playing ranked, not just campaign and co-op. I'm in gold, and I have difficulties against skytoss in PvP. I think I max out too late (12-13 mins), because I can't decide in time my opponent plays an early void ray all in or just a macro skytoss. Can you give me some tips how can I recognize the macro version?

  • @mikovihko4641
    @mikovihko4641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel kinda proud to not get supply blocked a single time in my games anymore >:) I kinda almost set it in stone when I build pylons and where so I dont have to even think about it anymore, seems to me a good position to be ingame can spend brain resource elsewhere

  • @Vardpo
    @Vardpo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank your for translating and answering my question

  • @high_dadYT
    @high_dadYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your intro sounds exactly like how I describe Tarkov to people lmao

  • @edwinCSBG
    @edwinCSBG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro is really cool to watch

  • @jacobw3652
    @jacobw3652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I don't feel so bad, I'm in low diamond and BigSam absolutely wrecked me. Damn smurfs.

  • @monstersaint
    @monstersaint หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @Tenebris_Sint
    @Tenebris_Sint 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need the same, but Florencio builds.

  • @Machida209
    @Machida209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your videos!
    On the gameplay, shoudn’t you prioritize maxing supply more? You were like 150 supply with a ton of unspent resources for super long, and that +50 supply would have allowed to defend bases better (not lose 4th) and / or make him def by having a chargelot force harassing his bases

  • @MrCreed145
    @MrCreed145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That intro made me cry inside. Side note, MAKE HYDRAS TIER ONE, can build den after pool, upgrades unlocked at lair tech.
    Also a 2 out of three random mode would be nice. Ide love random zerg or terran and not ever get toss.

  • @ja-no6fx
    @ja-no6fx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for all ling fight u could put a cannon or two in between some buildings where the lings cant get in, itll bug out the ai

  • @bobjohnson9201
    @bobjohnson9201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a zeeeeeeeerrrrrg and a shotguuunnn!!!!

  • @NoticemeSinPi
    @NoticemeSinPi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do zerg buildings keep the kill count from the drone?

  • @humanetrout8805
    @humanetrout8805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do disruptors compare to high templar & storm? I feel like those games with high templar storm would benefit from a lot more value that disruptors bring, with it's near instant kill novas as opposed to storms and squishy templar. Thoughts?

    • @koolkiller35
      @koolkiller35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your opponent is paying attention and stimmed, they can outrun the disruptor shots. Storm is instant and very strong against bio. Disrupters are better for mech

  • @jerubaal101
    @jerubaal101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great guide, but you don't seem to be using Oracles as much as many pros do. Are they just scouts at this point?

  • @iiddNNzz
    @iiddNNzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey winter thanks for the content my dude, I always have fun watching but then I get to play, I can’t macro I just rush stalkers if I need to build a 3rd base my brain hurts and I normally quit the game and go back to stalkers blink

  • @Falindio
    @Falindio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first game bound to happen every now and then. Cheeses, smurfs, and in winter's case, snipers. Focus on your game and it'll be more enjoyable, even on a loss.

  • @albertro6051
    @albertro6051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ah yes, watching the twitch content again on yt.

  • @MrRubixscube
    @MrRubixscube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi winter, this time i have a couple questions:
    1) is there a way to select all idle workers without having the camera move over to them?
    2) how important is it to hit chronoboost? should you keep it in the back of your mind at all time, or just use it whenever you notice the relevant buildings on screen?

    • @SnkobArts
      @SnkobArts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ctrl F1 (or whatever you have it bound to) selects all idle workers. You can also just mouse click the idle worker button in the lower left of the screen on the minimal frame

    • @SnkobArts
      @SnkobArts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chrono boost workers up through 3 bases, then Chrono upgrades. If while scouting you see them moving out, Chrono production like robo and stargates. If it's 1 base vs your 2 base, be sure to save 50 energy on one of your nex for battery overcharge

    • @MrRubixscube
      @MrRubixscube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SnkobArts thanks for the answers. however, my first question wasnt about "how to select all idle workers" but "how to select them without the screen moving to them". i dont even know if theres a way

    • @Valhalla05
      @Valhalla05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrRubixscube Ctrl Idle Worker key will select all idle workers without moving the camera towards them. Just make sure you only hit the idle worker key once

  • @yifeicheng8926
    @yifeicheng8926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very educational content! Just one question: what is an efficient way to deal with engineering bay block as protoss? I would build a zealot to cancel the engineering bay after scouting it, but this delays my adept, making it hard to deal with the reaper.

  • @deeznoodlezz
    @deeznoodlezz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think onions grow their layers by consuming their onion brethren and absorbing their energy and each layer is how many onions they absorbed

  • @Daedalus33
    @Daedalus33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn man that intro. Were you in my bedroom last night or what

  • @firestarter000001
    @firestarter000001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually also played against this BigSam smurf (Im diamond 3). He made the same thing to me, lings everywhere, wiht one variation, he used nydus to swarm my main.I think i died much faster then Winter, even when obviously Winter was purposefully playing slow and basic here:)

  • @alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076
    @alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey winter
    I've been seeing a lot of succes with mass stalkers with blink and immortals on the front. I fear that i will hit a wall soon since i am at arround 2400 mmr (silver) Do you sugest to change my build or just keep winning with the good old stalkers?

  • @larsbaer3508
    @larsbaer3508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Just reinstalled sc2 BC of your Low am Challenge lol, i followed you when you did IT the First time ...
    Just gonna do a couple of ai Games though i guess Just for nostalgic ... Never Made IT above gold BC i never Put in the time and effort

  • @Hotshotben
    @Hotshotben 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to know how to lightly micro my units after a-moving. I often feel like half my archons and immortals are too thick and theyre stuck at the back of the line trying to find a way to get in range of the other army while my zealots are doing all they can in front. Thanks for the grest content!

  • @alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076
    @alejandrosanchezsalcedo7076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah! Let's go protoss!!

  • @8ritorneloz
    @8ritorneloz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realized that max pax is for map hax

  • @Fred-ju1xs
    @Fred-ju1xs หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like Zerg. but I cant get things going.
    Between Injects and Larva management and weak units.
    I'll just watch.

  • @NEROgamehunter
    @NEROgamehunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your videos

  • @cccorange5965
    @cccorange5965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are disrupters just better templars? Those danger balls are so sick

    • @Talyrion
      @Talyrion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the problem is that when you're up against someone who have a good micro, those balls suddenly have a really hard time connecting.

  • @KirbzYyY
    @KirbzYyY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not even a minute in and I am being called out wtf man :(

  • @frankmc8355
    @frankmc8355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For shield upgrades, doe the calculus on upgrade priority change if you're playing defensively? Shouldn't batteries make shield upgrades better?

    • @WannabeDough
      @WannabeDough 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No because the shield battery already won’t be able to keep up making armour upgrades way better to minimise hull damage, no point having a bigger shield If the battery can’t keep up already

  • @GeneralWarfield
    @GeneralWarfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you say ladder got easier or harder since 2018-2020?

  • @alexfindex
    @alexfindex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wanna say hi to Shiba

  • @Fede.i.M.
    @Fede.i.M. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just realized something, i am in this APM range already making bad decision in D2, is it because i dont spam keys ever?
    And never bothered with repeat rates of keys for rapid fire

  • @birtanikk2696
    @birtanikk2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Protoss ❤️

  • @Matt-vh7gf
    @Matt-vh7gf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Shiba :D

  • @ALGband
    @ALGband 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am that dude on the ladder

  • @jayisvexed
    @jayisvexed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my pylon is turgid

  • @nielsfennema2266
    @nielsfennema2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: I struggle a lot versus a 6 min roach revenge attack ~130 supply, a friend of mine always does it. I feel like I can not counter it without blind countering and building a bunch of cannons and batteries. He builds a 3th so it is also not mediately obvious what his intentions are.

    • @Valhalla05
      @Valhalla05 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To clarify, does your friend attack with 130 supply of roaches, or do they attack with roaches when YOU are at 130 supply?

    • @nielsfennema2266
      @nielsfennema2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Valhalla05 This was just how I noted it down in my note pad. But I belive that his total supply was 130 at 6min when he is knocking with biles on my front door. So let's say 90ish supply of roaches? I can check this in a replay later is 90 sounds low.

  • @lixnix2018
    @lixnix2018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I should stop trying to play zerg as Protoss
    I should just go back to zerg

  • @screes620
    @screes620 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shoulda built colossus for that first game. 3 of them, and then push across the map, leave like 3 high templar in each base to defend.

  • @themanwhospeaksinclams
    @themanwhospeaksinclams 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about instead of taking bases you get based?

  • @stevehuk902
    @stevehuk902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would proxy shield battery be good for attacking? Or is that tin foil league strategy?

  • @monkeybunny89
    @monkeybunny89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low APM challenge? That's what PRotoss does every race?

  • @polygondwanaland8390
    @polygondwanaland8390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:11:25

  • @MoonShroomMan
    @MoonShroomMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terran has the best spell caster, and zerg has the second best. I don't want to hear Terrans cry about storm when emp, snipe, cloak, and a fucking nuke are all on 1 unit

  • @michaelkramerados3751
    @michaelkramerados3751 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Shiba :)

  • @thou_shalt_kill1355
    @thou_shalt_kill1355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They always nerf protoss very fast. But they cannot fix broken zerg for 5 years now

  • @WannabeDough
    @WannabeDough 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Shiba

  • @hypers829
    @hypers829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The op unit can't carry people to a division they don't deserve anymore. It's useless 😭

  • @OzixiThrill
    @OzixiThrill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:55:48 - Interesting how he calls marines the best (Queens are the best Tier 1 unit, by the way, and I'll die on this hill), when marines without stim and combat shields are barely worth anthing; Even less than zealots.

  • @CPeyser08
    @CPeyser08 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now void rays have been nerfed it’s time to go back to cannon rushing everyone! 😛

  • @ghoraxe9000
    @ghoraxe9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useless no.. still excellent for sniping key building in the late game

  • @Jones-ke6bt
    @Jones-ke6bt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    pretty sure an a move would have won the first game about half way in lol

    • @Falindio
      @Falindio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then get out base-traded by drop lings

    • @Jones-ke6bt
      @Jones-ke6bt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Falindio idk about that. its not hard to defend that with a warp in.

  • @jonnyc4744
    @jonnyc4744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why laugh at chat when 4/3 gas? me nobo tbh

  • @danielbrannon8371
    @danielbrannon8371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Q: Are Void Rays USELESS After the new patch?
    A: No they have been useless since WOL.

  • @ceerius3910
    @ceerius3910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all love low apm
    It gives us bads a little copium
    That we too can be good at starcraft
    But probably just look like an ass
    Shout out to the mod BionicShiba
    Talk too much trash and he'll eat you like an amoeba
    Maybe one day he'll promote me in discord
    To sub rank for the streamer where my love is poured

    • @ceerius3910
      @ceerius3910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also for an actual question, can a reaper grenade your disrupter danger balls back at you?

  • @jimmycraig221
    @jimmycraig221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im telling you, just recommend people tank their mmr. then you can play against people of lower skill, and try out crazy builds.
    i wouldnt recommend cheeses, but it helps with scouting patterns, creep spread, creating workers, etc..

    • @firestarter000001
      @firestarter000001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So basicly you recommend to smurf. I dont believe you when you say it helps with learning, it doesnt, because you are trying it against a much inferior player, so it teaches you nothing. Against a player at your level it might not work at all. There is only one reason for smurfing by tanking mmr : cowardice. These guys are afraid to loose, their fragile ego must alwys win. They are basicly bullies that enjoy beating on much weaker players. And as collaterall they are driving poeple away from SC2, because it is quite frustrating. In short they are morons , who hurt the not so huge SC2 playerbase.

    • @Valhalla05
      @Valhalla05 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do realize that unranked games exist right?

    • @firestarter000001
      @firestarter000001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Valhalla05 Im confused what does it have to do with the subject?

    • @Valhalla05
      @Valhalla05 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firestarter000001 Because OP is recommending to tank your MMR to try new things. But Unranked exists to try new things without risking your rank.

  • @Phileosophos
    @Phileosophos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That first game highlights why I despise Zerg. If Winter hadn't walled off perfectly as Protoss, he'd have lost at the first attack. He had to build the perfect unit composition and use spell casters just to survive. All the Zerg player had to do was build the most basic unit in the game and keep attack clicking to win. It's pathetic how OP Zerg are, Blizzard's "master race" in StarCraft 2.

    • @TheAgavi
      @TheAgavi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You seriously complaining that all you need to do is place buildings properly once at the start of the game in order to repel all zerg aggression?

    • @Falindio
      @Falindio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He had 202 APM in the end, the guy's a Smurf and most likely, stream sniper. If allowed more APM, thus more scouting, Winter would've slapped him.

    • @Phileosophos
      @Phileosophos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAgavi No, as you'd know if you actually read what I wrote.

  • @danielbrooks8230
    @danielbrooks8230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Shiba