11:06 I genuinely think TF One had the best middle ground with this With how it depicted Optimus as being the first true Prime after a long reign of a pretender, to emphasize him more as a messianic figure While also keeping him separate from the 13th Prime to keep his humble origin
Agreed. Characters being gods or a deity of some kind doesn’t make them bad characters, but it can cheapen them if it isn’t an original part of their lore. This is an issue personally for Optimus, making it feel like he didn’t really “earn” his title of leadership.
@@shadowmarauder6033 I like the idea that he's the 13th prime reincarnated but I also believe that whether or not he's the reincarnation he still earns the Matrix. Though it could be seen that he's the reincarnation because of the Matrix not earning the Matrix because he's the reincarnation.
I think this needs to be the last “Jesus Prime” take on Optimus for awhile though, I grew up with the aligned continuity but it’s depiction of Optimus has been the go-to for the last decade and I’d like to see something different again, possibly how TFA did things with Optimus just being a regular soldier
@@orcastrike7750 Yeah, ı never liked what they did the title of "Prime". That was deffinetly the lowest point for it. Tfa is my jam and etc. But Optimuses character in that show feels more like Rodimus. Heck, he even got leadership from Ultra Magnus later, similar to Rodimus with Optimus. SCRAPPED SEASON 4 EVEN HAS A SİMİLAR DEATH SCENE WİTH ULTRA MAGNUS.
I really think that Optimus should stay as the 13th but not the way you think. I think TFOne leaned more onto the humble origin story so I got a compromise: I don’t like Zeta being the 13th so get rid of him & give Prima the Matrix & make him Leader (just like he is in every other continuity) , Sentinel pretends to be the 13th after he killed the Primes, but when he’s dead & Optimus receives the matrix, he becomes the true 13th Prime. That will also symbolize that Optimus has been fully incarnated into the Warrior of Light (since he has Primas T-cog & the Matrix) & Megatron as the Warrior of Darkness (has Megatronus T-Cog) & in the idw version, the 13th Prime was only known as “The Arisen” & when Alpha Trion says “Arise Optimus Prime” it can be a cool callback to the IDW comics. Look I just like being consistent & this would actually be the middle ground.
One thing I find interesting that TjOmega pointed out was this means that Optimus Prime becoming Star Convoy was him regaining his demigod status and power, him ascending back to what he once was.
@@RodimusPrimalI can definitely understand and respect that opinion. (Also pardon my fanboying for a second:) I really do appreciate that you, THE Rodimus Primal, took the time to reply to my comment. Hope you and your family had a happy holiday and have a happy new year
4:48 Grandus here and Dug Base in vehicle mode are actually among the parade platforms seen on Cybertron (Grandus carried Sentinel Magnus, Percptor and Ultra Magnus while Dug Base carried their prisoners) and a hologram of Dai Atlas' burst can be seen in Yoketron's dojo, though apparently he studied fencing under him instead of any of the known cybertronian matrial arts. Also Dai Atas is actually a fencing rival of Star Saber who also studied fencing under Yoketron and a hologram of his Burst is also seen in the show. Drift, Springer and even Ultra Magnus also trained in melee weapons under Yoketron.
There is so much transformers lore that I am completely unaware of, it's mind-boggling. This is a really interesting concept for optimus, but I'm with you that the whole 13 primes thing makes everyone else seem lessers. Great mention of Raziel, I of course like that very much. Great retrospective!
Take a look at the Brave Series if you haven’t, it’s kinda more of this stuff as it was running concurrently with Zone and battlestars up till beast wars came out
While I’m usually not in favor of making Optimus as part of the 13, I like how they’re doing it in AotP by making him Star Convoy. Plus it feels like a great full circle move by having it be his most powerful form in G1 and using this deep-cut toy only J-G1 obscurity.
I quite like the idea that the actual 13th Prime, or at least their essence, is embedded within the Zodiac, and Optimus has taken on their power to achieve his Star Optimus Prime/Star Convoy form. I also didn't realise that his vehicle mode was like an amalgamation of the original Optimus and Rodimus Prime - nice detail. I'm excited for the new toy. With it being both cheaper and smaller than most modern Titans, this might be the first Titan class toy I buy.
I think people would accept the idea of Optimus 13th prime if they established that basically any auto bot that looks like Optimus retroactively also looks like the 13th that’s all it’s not unheard of for some fictions for people to resemble legendary figures to be believed to be a reincarnation of them
I have a Powermaster Optimus Prime, with all the parts, including a Hi-Q. I got it because I had one back in the 80's. He is a star in my collection of stuff...
For your last question, yes, I do think *Battle Star Optimus Prime* is a way better name than just Star Optimus Prime. Imagine getting toys of Super/Ultra Megatron and Dark Nova in the Age of the Primes toyline, with them combining into the Star Giant. (Not counting the Generations Selects Super Megatron).
I prefer having the 13th prime to be anyone but Optimus, which is why I liked having Zeta in TF:ONE as the 13th. It feels more special having Optimus/Orion as an everyday man rising to leadership instead of simply being a reincarnated divinity
Hi Rodimus, Great video about Who Is Star Optimus Prime? Keep them coming, Also your latest video was outstanding, Also After Star Optimus Prime releases, we will have at least 1 Optimus at every size class. Also Star Optimus looks pretty cool. I for one can't wait to get Star Op. :_ Autobot: Also Starimus is my alternate way of naming Star Optimus Prime and have a wonderful 2025, Rodimus. Also I for one agree with Phillip This has been a really interesting view on Star Optimus Prime. God bless you so much for covering him. Also This is awesome, I'm genuinely happy to see a lot more obscure and deep cut characters get the spotlight. Also Woo! Yeah! Star Convoy! One of my favorite G1 Characters! So pumped! Also Star Optimus is Awesome Artwork Nice, Also I often see Star Convoy as a awesome fusion of Optimus and Rodimus, Also His name is Star Convoy from Battle Stars:The Return of Convoy. Revives him and powered up into Star Convoy has a rivalry against Ultra Megatron. Also 2/3 Star Optimus history 1/3 History of the 13th Prime 3/3 Excellent content, Also Thanks for the history lesson. Also Thanks for explaining that mystery. Good video. Absolutely amazing video loved it, can't wait for Star Optimus prime, Also I agree with your lore and make sense👍 Also Superb Rodimus first of all Happy New Year and second could you do a retrospective on the wreckers, Also Awesome video, the Japanese TF stories have always intrigued me. I so wish the story had continued here in the US, Also Thanks for sharing Rodimus keep up the good work stay safe out there in Florida hope you and your family all have a Happy New Year have a good day and until next time TILL ALL ARE ONE.🙂💪🟢🇺🇲🏋️🦸🤩✌️💯💚😎😀👊🥷
Excellent retrospective Rodimus Primal, it sure is a fun little mystery to solve who the 13th prime really is! How about a Super Megatron retrospective later down the pipeline!
6:27 This is just a theory about the 13th prime, but what if it's a possibility that the combination of Star Convoy and Powermaster Optimus Prime, which was shown, was Optimus original form before his rebirth by Primus. And that his original name was called Star Convoy.
@@RodimusPrimal Well, Optimus became an everyman blue collar worker when he reincarnated into Orion Pax, the revelation of the secret heritage after the hero embraced his path is a very popular trope.
Hasbro kinda dropped the ball when Naming him "Star Optimus Prime," they really should have called him either "Stellar Optimus Prime" or "Stellarus Prime." Come on Hasbro
back when i was younger. i had power master optimus prime. but i have never even heard of star optimus prime until years later when the internet came around.
1:36, contrary to what people say, Actionmasters was selling a bit well that there was expansions outside of the US. People got tired of TFs at that point because TMNT was the hottest thing at the time among other things. 1:52, with this weapon, you can literally just make an all new weapon that attaches to Dai Atlas backwings just like the new Armada Starscream from Generations where he has blades attached to his wings. 2:00, a new theory - Is Violen Jiger more powerful than the 13 Primes? 2:27, thankfully I have bought the 30th anniversary Kabaya model kit of Star Prime and it's awesome. Not as big but still an amazing representation. Something about Japanese TFs embracing the Super Robot design of Japanese mecha will always be the rule of cool to me. 3:40, still pretty cool sounding name for a planet. 4:04, is he more powerful than an Ultra Pretender? We'll never know. 6:44, this is accurate to history where artists and sculptors back then would make impressions of figures and people under the pretense of people who had waaay vivid imaginations which was why something like the Kirin (a giraffe mistaken for a horned dragon), ancient monsters and other things were drawn in history. The artists were either bad artists, people they got the descriptions from were panicking or both. So Prime looking like that was accurate because the Cybertronian sculptor was like ancient artists in real life. I would've called him Ultimate Optimus but it's a-ok in my books that Star Prime is now canon. 7:21, it's insane this design LOOKS like a well-done 3rd Party design and not an official design and yet, looks to be more better than the 3rd party Primorion toy from years ago. INSANE! 9:00, well...let's say the Matrix has many and many uses and roles too which leadership of the Autobots is one of the perks but that's just me. 10:14, to think the Matrix was...a FRACTION of what the Zodiac's full power is and all it took was opening pieces of the Matrix to kill Unicron who's just powerful as all hell?! That's some crazy-ass lore. 10:26, this is a tribute to Magami Ban and Masumi Kaneda - the OG Writers of Japanese G1 lore. This is for you 2! As much as people give a lot of flack to Headmasters, I grew up watching Headmasters and never regretted ever doing so. 11:12, I think Ultimate Optimus would be a suitable name imo or Optimus Maximus.
According to some sources, the Return of Convoy toyline could have bigger version of Rodimus as 'New Rodimus'. He was planned to transform into fire engine.
I hope you had a Merry Christmas Rod. I got SS Swoop, Legacy Triple Changer Sandstorm, Bomb Burst, and Red Cog, and a bootleg Deformation pen. I also found the G1 Ramhorn and Bombshell pack the last time I was at the store.
I don’t like the idea that only the 13 can be Primes. They were the first generation of Primes. But the 13 might have a unique aspect in being able to be shared.
This is an amazing video. Thank you. I appreciated when we finally got the English translation from.the viz manga collections a couple years ago. I don't know if there will be any media for the Age of Primes, but I'd love to get an animated film or short series that tells the stories of the 13 Primes, but also covers the events of Return of Convoy. Having the 12 Primes and their objects be the only way to restore Optimus to life then face Super Megatron and eventually Dark Nova/Star Giant with the other Primes there to rally around Star Optimus Prime.
I really, REALLY hope that the upcoming Titan Class Star Convoy/Optimus Prime figure is joined by a commander class sized figure of Grandus and a leader class sized figure of Sky Garry.
A awesome review! I love the new toys and I also want to see the Japanese versions of series of transformers. Happy new year and blessings to u and your family.
I believe that making Optimus the 13th prime all along really detracts from his character and origins and also takes away some of the intrigue of becoming a Prime.
Since I do learn, and I actually kind of like the Japanese G1 cartoons, continuity it’s complicated as heck like it’s one piece mixed with Sailor Moon manga ver but a lot more you know tiny time different dimension thing and even I think really good stories like the generation selects manga
10:27 In the Japanese contunity, the Silver Matrix is _not_ the Matrix of Leadership but the most powerful matrix of the Primus Vanguard in the Precursor World of the Transformers Legends comics and became the Zodiac at the creation of the G1 World. It's also what Super Megatron used to become Ultra Megatron and later used it with Blue Big Convoy's α Matrix to become Ultra Megtron Omega in Generations Selects Special Comic.
This was a good informational video i like the history of star convoy and im definitely getting the new star convoy toy other then that this was a good video I leave a like and I hope you have a good new year
Takara pushed the release of Star Convoy, Dai Atlas, Super Megatron and God Ginrai a couple years ago, glad to see it finally got its first mainstream western release.
What if there were only 12 Primes and the 13th was Optimus who was sent back in time for one reason or another? He's no stranger to the grandfather paradox in the G1 cartoon so this idea would only continue that trend, and it would allow him to keep his "nobody to somebody" origin while still being the 13th Prime.
the aligned/covenant of primus explanation, optimus as the thirteenth, is my favorite. it also explains why he is sometimes called the last prime. he was the last to be created by primus.
😮 oh my God I didn't know soul reaver was a continuity to the transformers for the game. that's like my favorite PS1 game😮🎉❤ thank you so much for putting that in there❤ I'm sorry I talked to text when I'm in a hurry and I don't proofread. So this is a revision of my statement I love what you just sent out.
They should have called him Star Prime, as the Optimus part doesn't quite fit with him, but then again, it's about marketing to kids, and Optimus Prime is a household name so if a parent browsing for a big gift to a boy who likes trucks and robots, upon seeing him might decide that he would make a good gift!!
Since you mentioned him, I always felt Violence Jawger was a good English interpretation of the name. Though if you want a musician, go with Violin Jagger. You can't keep a good Bot down.
Heard about star convoy and Super megatron years ago always wanted figs of them but for now star optimus prime looks as good as the original star convoy plus i like the design the gold star above his window pecks befits him as the greatest leader it always feel like hes back and better then ever with a new form that fits him well
Me yesterday: "Who is Star Optimus Prime, and what's his back story?" Rodimus Primal today: "This is Star Optimus Prime, and this is his back story." That's freaky. Thanks, Man. 😊
This was great, but no mention of the deep law as to why the new Star Optimus Prime comes with Micromaster Hot Rod according to Slag Podcast when Hot Rod left in Japanese’s cartoons…. He became leader of planet micro and the merger of the his matrix & zodiac with Optimus prime is why his included as a merger of the final 2 matrix holders…. Can you cover this in a video at some point please sounds really interesting!
1:40 It was Hasbro fault for the decline of the Transformers, when they canceled their animated shows they delivered an almost deadly shot to the franchise, thanks God Japan was able to saved the Transformers
Not, it was Beast Wars that saved Transformers, when Hasbro entrusted Kenner with the task. Takara stopped doing Transformers following the end of Operation Combination, then tried with G-2 in 1995, then stopped again until Beast Wars.
3:37 But why was his body there? As I recall in Head Master Optimus died on Cybertron, what was his corpse doing on another planet? 5:30 I suppose that in the Japanese continuity Beast Wars happened very differently, because if the 2 aliens from Beast Wars died, that means that in that future the Maximals will not have it so complicated.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, bud! I see things a little differently....at least for my own head cannon. If Optimus were to become 'Star Convoy' it would be under very different circumstances and would be a temporary form. Or one he could re-assume depending on the need.} I also do personally see Optimus as the 13th Prime....but not quite as sometimes depicted. I like the idea of Autonomous Maxiumus being the original bearer of the title but it is then passed on to a young bot originally named 'Star'. He then is renamed Orion Pax and then becomes Optimus Prime. I would also do the 13 Primes a little differently. Or at least, there would still be a 'succession' of sorts from Prima, the first Matrix Bearer to later Optimus Prime. I had done some reading via Wiki a while ago to learn who some of the different Primes were before Optimus or even Sentinel and found one named Primon - though I think he is just another version of Prima from a separate story line. But I like to think there were different Primes in different eras leading up to first Sentinel and then to Optimus. I also like to think that, unlike Transformers One, Dark of the Moon or some other stories, that Sentinel was not a villain. He becomes a worthy Matrix Bearer though is young and a bit like the Sentinel from Transformers Animated in attitude. I was really sad in Transformers One when Alpha Trion died. And sooooo soon! But I liked how the Primes ALL died in battle rather than the 'War of the Primes' idea from many portions of the Aligned Continuity. I also borrow the idea from one of the other series that Optimus and Magnus are brothers, twins, and that they each had different names originally. They are both sent to the future to protect them, so it wouldn't be quite like what the Aligned Continuity does. I am still rethinking some ideas on how the Primes fell in my own personal head cannon....but I like the idea that maybe they DIDN'T die, or at least not all of them. Specifically Solus Prime and Megatronus Prime. I STILL don't see him as the bad guy among the Primes. I still see Liege Maximo that way and maybe HE could still be the reason the Primes fell but were not necessarily destroyed. Where they ended up going to I don't know yet. But it's fun to imagine the possibilities.
Confession time... when I was a kid in the 90's I bought a transforming robot toy from a toy store that was going out of business. There was lots of Japanese writing on the package and it had Autobot stickers on it so I picked it up but I thought it was some weird bootleg or knockoff, the stores were flooded with them. We didn't have the internet back then and I knew nothing about Japanese Transformers. It was Sky Garry. I blew him up with fireworks on the 4th of July. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
See I've had a head canon for a couple months that the 13th prime is a new take on Omega Prime from RID 2001. But after hearing the name Autonomous Maximus that sounds way better. Also Star Optimus should be a final form for when Optimus has the power of the other primes like in RID 2015.
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After star Optimus Prime releases, we will have at least 1 Optimus at every size class .
Facts 👌🏾
@ianbrewster8934 literally
Even HasLab “scale”
We got a micromaster Optimus?!?
@@suprizeoptomist4680 yeah we did
11:06
I genuinely think TF One had the best middle ground with this
With how it depicted Optimus as being the first true Prime after a long reign of a pretender, to emphasize him more as a messianic figure
While also keeping him separate from the 13th Prime to keep his humble origin
Agreed. Characters being gods or a deity of some kind doesn’t make them bad characters, but it can cheapen them if it isn’t an original part of their lore. This is an issue personally for Optimus, making it feel like he didn’t really “earn” his title of leadership.
@@shadowmarauder6033 I like the idea that he's the 13th prime reincarnated but I also believe that whether or not he's the reincarnation he still earns the Matrix. Though it could be seen that he's the reincarnation because of the Matrix not earning the Matrix because he's the reincarnation.
I think this needs to be the last “Jesus Prime” take on Optimus for awhile though, I grew up with the aligned continuity but it’s depiction of Optimus has been the go-to for the last decade and I’d like to see something different again, possibly how TFA did things with Optimus just being a regular soldier
@@orcastrike7750
Yeah, ı never liked what they did the title of "Prime". That was deffinetly the lowest point for it.
Tfa is my jam and etc. But Optimuses character in that show feels more like Rodimus. Heck, he even got leadership from Ultra Magnus later, similar to Rodimus with Optimus.
SCRAPPED SEASON 4 EVEN HAS A SİMİLAR DEATH SCENE WİTH ULTRA MAGNUS.
I really think that Optimus should stay as the 13th but not the way you think. I think TFOne leaned more onto the humble origin story so I got a compromise: I don’t like Zeta being the 13th so get rid of him & give Prima the Matrix & make him Leader (just like he is in every other continuity) , Sentinel pretends to be the 13th after he killed the Primes, but when he’s dead & Optimus receives the matrix, he becomes the true 13th Prime. That will also symbolize that Optimus has been fully incarnated into the Warrior of Light (since he has Primas T-cog & the Matrix) & Megatron as the Warrior of Darkness (has Megatronus T-Cog) & in the idw version, the 13th Prime was only known as “The Arisen” & when Alpha Trion says “Arise Optimus Prime” it can be a cool callback to the IDW comics. Look I just like being consistent & this would actually be the middle ground.
One thing I find interesting that TjOmega pointed out was this means that Optimus Prime becoming Star Convoy was him regaining his demigod status and power, him ascending back to what he once was.
I view it as the opposite. I rather do not like the idea of Optimus Prime being one of the 13.
@@RodimusPrimalI can definitely understand and respect that opinion.
(Also pardon my fanboying for a second:) I really do appreciate that you, THE Rodimus Primal, took the time to reply to my comment. Hope you and your family had a happy holiday and have a happy new year
@@RodimusPrimalI don’t think TJ likes it either. But it means Optimus doesn’t become the 13th proper until becoming Star Convoy.
Thanks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too.
@RodimusPrimal Is Nova Prime also one is those 13th? I’m asking this because I hope Hasbro will rerelease nova prime
3:49
"Super, you say? What, like a Supermarket?" reads like a proper goofy G1 cartoon line
4:48 Grandus here and Dug Base in vehicle mode are actually among the parade platforms seen on Cybertron (Grandus carried Sentinel Magnus, Percptor and Ultra Magnus while Dug Base carried their prisoners) and a hologram of Dai Atlas' burst can be seen in Yoketron's dojo, though apparently he studied fencing under him instead of any of the known cybertronian matrial arts. Also Dai Atas is actually a fencing rival of Star Saber who also studied fencing under Yoketron and a hologram of his Burst is also seen in the show. Drift, Springer and even Ultra Magnus also trained in melee weapons under Yoketron.
3:13 haha the name SkyGary will always make me laugh
It's a Japanese naming Engrish for one who carries. So quite literally his name is Sky Carrier.
@@RodimusPrimalor Sky Carry
@@RodimusPrimaldo you have a minute?
Could have been Sky Jerry. Even worse name.
It’s SkySteve.
There is so much transformers lore that I am completely unaware of, it's mind-boggling. This is a really interesting concept for optimus, but I'm with you that the whole 13 primes thing makes everyone else seem lessers. Great mention of Raziel, I of course like that very much. Great retrospective!
When I wrote that part of the script, you were the first person I thought of.
@@RodimusPrimalHappy 2025!
4:52 The only time Grandus ever got some animated love
Imagine him being included with the upcoming Legacy figures!
@@matthewreynoso6904 Hope so
I love how much stuff like Star Convoy and the other Japanese Transformers media just fully embrace Mecha and anime tropes
Different but fun
Me to
Take a look at the Brave Series if you haven’t, it’s kinda more of this stuff as it was running concurrently with Zone and battlestars up till beast wars came out
Never was fascinated by that idea fully until now!
"different" is the keyword, definitely not transformers.
@@TAURON85 plenty transformers considering half of the franchise at minimum is very super robot.
While I’m usually not in favor of making Optimus as part of the 13, I like how they’re doing it in AotP by making him Star Convoy. Plus it feels like a great full circle move by having it be his most powerful form in G1 and using this deep-cut toy only J-G1 obscurity.
Do you like Cliffjumper?
0:58 Optimus is the Goku of the robots/mecha genre, their deaths are a costume for the world of animation
I quite like the idea that the actual 13th Prime, or at least their essence, is embedded within the Zodiac, and Optimus has taken on their power to achieve his Star Optimus Prime/Star Convoy form. I also didn't realise that his vehicle mode was like an amalgamation of the original Optimus and Rodimus Prime - nice detail.
I'm excited for the new toy. With it being both cheaper and smaller than most modern Titans, this might be the first Titan class toy I buy.
I think people would accept the idea of Optimus 13th prime if they established that basically any auto bot that looks like Optimus retroactively also looks like the 13th that’s all it’s not unheard of for some fictions for people to resemble legendary figures to be believed to be a reincarnation of them
I have a Powermaster Optimus Prime, with all the parts, including a Hi-Q. I got it because I had one back in the 80's.
He is a star in my collection of stuff...
Which Transformers tv show is your favorite?
@@AndrewDavis-sj6mb Yes.
@@dmann1982 Yes what?
For your last question, yes, I do think *Battle Star Optimus Prime* is a way better name than just Star Optimus Prime.
Imagine getting toys of Super/Ultra Megatron and Dark Nova in the Age of the Primes toyline, with them combining into the Star Giant. (Not counting the Generations Selects Super Megatron).
Very great idea.
I prefer having the 13th prime to be anyone but Optimus, which is why I liked having Zeta in TF:ONE as the 13th. It feels more special having Optimus/Orion as an everyday man rising to leadership instead of simply being a reincarnated divinity
That's how he SHOULD be!
@@RodimusPrimal Agreed I rather Optimus be the every-bot who rose up and was granted Prime-hood by proving he was WORTHY of the mantle.
This is awesome, I'm genuinely happy to see a lot more obscure and deep cut characters get the spotlight.
This has been a really interesting view on Star Optimus Prime. God bless you so much for covering him.
I can't wait to get Star OP.
Me too
I never knew about this form of Optimus, but its one of the coolest I've seen
I often see Star Convoy as a awesome fusion of Optimus and Rodimus
Star Optimus looks pretty cool.
Yes, yes he does
The 13 Primes are smashing COOL right?!
Hi Rodimus, Great video about Who Is Star Optimus Prime? Keep them coming, Also your latest video was outstanding, Also After Star Optimus Prime releases, we will have at least 1 Optimus at every size class. Also Star Optimus looks pretty cool. I for one can't wait to get Star Op. :_ Autobot: Also Starimus is my alternate way of naming Star Optimus Prime and have a wonderful 2025, Rodimus. Also I for one agree with Phillip This has been a really interesting view on Star Optimus Prime. God bless you so much for covering him. Also This is awesome, I'm genuinely happy to see a lot more obscure and deep cut characters get the spotlight. Also Woo! Yeah! Star Convoy! One of my favorite G1 Characters! So pumped! Also Star Optimus is Awesome Artwork Nice, Also I often see Star Convoy as a awesome fusion of Optimus and Rodimus, Also His name is Star Convoy from Battle Stars:The Return of Convoy. Revives him and powered up into Star Convoy has a rivalry against Ultra Megatron. Also 2/3 Star Optimus history 1/3 History of the 13th Prime 3/3 Excellent content, Also Thanks for the history lesson. Also Thanks for explaining that mystery. Good video. Absolutely amazing video loved it, can't wait for Star Optimus prime, Also I agree with your lore and make sense👍 Also Superb Rodimus first of all Happy New Year and second could you do a retrospective on the wreckers, Also Awesome video, the Japanese TF stories have always intrigued me. I so wish the story had continued here in the US, Also Thanks for sharing Rodimus keep up the good work stay safe out there in Florida hope you and your family all have a Happy New Year have a good day and until next time TILL ALL ARE ONE.🙂💪🟢🇺🇲🏋️🦸🤩✌️💯💚😎😀👊🥷
Excellent retrospective Rodimus Primal, it sure is a fun little mystery to solve who the 13th prime really is!
How about a Super Megatron retrospective later down the pipeline!
Star Optimus Is Awesome Artwork Nice
6:27 This is just a theory about the 13th prime, but what if it's a possibility that the combination of Star Convoy and Powermaster Optimus Prime, which was shown, was Optimus original form before his rebirth by Primus.
And that his original name was called Star Convoy.
I'm still opposed to Optimus being one of the 13. Takes away from him being an everyman blue collar worker that becomes a hero.
@@RodimusPrimal Well, Optimus became an everyman blue collar worker when he reincarnated into Orion Pax, the revelation of the secret heritage after the hero embraced his path is a very popular trope.
@@Hektols It really doesn't work for Optimus Prime because it takes away from him being an every man.
I like the name Optimus Maximus. Can't wait to get this.
Great video man! Those are some muddy waters! Lol there’s so many various continuities, with various merging points, it’s tough to keep track.
Starimus is my alternate way of naming Star Optimus Prime and have a wonderfull 2025, Rodimus.
His name is Star Convoy from Battle Stars: The Return of Convoy. Revives him and powered up into Star Convoy has rivalry against Ultra Megatron.
Man... I haven't watch this channel for years😭
Glad to finally find your channel again!
And I've still been making videos! Happy new year! Till all are one!
@@RodimusPrimal thank you! I honestly grew up watching your channel a lot of times when I was a kid!
I’m kind of more intrigued about Sky Garry and Grandus now.
2/3 Star Optimus history
1/3 History of the 13th Prime
3/3 Excellent content
Woo! Yeah! Star Convoy! One of my FAVORITE G1 Characters! So pumped!
6:18 Except of course The Thirteenth Prime known only as "The Arisen"!!! And this is where Star Optimus Prime comes in to play!!!
This almost blows away my theories around the matrix of leadership and the primes
Hasbro kinda dropped the ball when Naming him "Star Optimus Prime," they really should have called him either "Stellar Optimus Prime" or "Stellarus Prime." Come on Hasbro
Thank you. I'm glad someone pointed out how they could do that!!!
@chrisconime yeah, while I don't intend to hate on hasbro, they missed a big opportunity, Lol
@@nipock3037 they also could’ve went with battle star Optimus prime too imo 🙏🏻
@nipock3037 Oh, for sure, I get that. I just think Stellarus prime also sounds good.
@@darkscoutergamer6168
Too true.
Thanks for the history lesson. I saw the figure coming out and thought 'that's cool' and 'that's expensive'.
Thanks for explaining that mystery.
Good video.
Thanks for this history! I honestly had no knowledge of any of this.
back when i was younger. i had power master optimus prime. but i have never even heard of star optimus prime until years later when the internet came around.
Absolutely amazing video loved it , can’t wait for star Optimus prime
Thank you! Till all are one!
1:36, contrary to what people say, Actionmasters was selling a bit well that there was expansions outside of the US. People got tired of TFs at that point because TMNT was the hottest thing at the time among other things.
1:52, with this weapon, you can literally just make an all new weapon that attaches to Dai Atlas backwings just like the new Armada Starscream from Generations where he has blades attached to his wings.
2:00, a new theory - Is Violen Jiger more powerful than the 13 Primes?
2:27, thankfully I have bought the 30th anniversary Kabaya model kit of Star Prime and it's awesome. Not as big but still an amazing representation.
Something about Japanese TFs embracing the Super Robot design of Japanese mecha will always be the rule of cool to me.
3:40, still pretty cool sounding name for a planet.
4:04, is he more powerful than an Ultra Pretender? We'll never know.
6:44, this is accurate to history where artists and sculptors back then would make impressions of figures and people under the pretense of people who had waaay vivid imaginations which was why something like the Kirin (a giraffe mistaken for a horned dragon), ancient monsters and other things were drawn in history. The artists were either bad artists, people they got the descriptions from were panicking or both.
So Prime looking like that was accurate because the Cybertronian sculptor was like ancient artists in real life.
I would've called him Ultimate Optimus but it's a-ok in my books that Star Prime is now canon.
7:21, it's insane this design LOOKS like a well-done 3rd Party design and not an official design and yet, looks to be more better than the 3rd party Primorion toy from years ago. INSANE!
9:00, well...let's say the Matrix has many and many uses and roles too which leadership of the Autobots is one of the perks but that's just me.
10:14, to think the Matrix was...a FRACTION of what the Zodiac's full power is and all it took was opening pieces of the Matrix to kill Unicron who's just powerful as all hell?! That's some crazy-ass lore.
10:26, this is a tribute to Magami Ban and Masumi Kaneda - the OG Writers of Japanese G1 lore. This is for you 2!
As much as people give a lot of flack to Headmasters, I grew up watching Headmasters and never regretted ever doing so.
11:12, I think Ultimate Optimus would be a suitable name imo or Optimus Maximus.
Thank you for the vid and the heads-up, got mine preordered.
We need star Billy 😂
Sup rodimus first of all happy new year, and second could you do a retrospective on the wreckers
I kinda like how the 13th is a mystery leaving up to any creator to choose who it is
According to some sources, the Return of Convoy toyline could have bigger version of Rodimus as 'New Rodimus'. He was planned to transform into fire engine.
3:10 Animated Megs took a lot of design cues from Super Megatron. Especially those black, Egyptian/pharaoh-like accents his head sculpt.
He's the Starman waiting in the sky
I hope you had a Merry Christmas Rod. I got SS Swoop, Legacy Triple Changer Sandstorm, Bomb Burst, and Red Cog, and a bootleg Deformation pen.
I also found the G1 Ramhorn and Bombshell pack the last time I was at the store.
I don’t like the idea that only the 13 can be Primes. They were the first generation of Primes. But the 13 might have a unique aspect in being able to be shared.
This is an amazing video. Thank you. I appreciated when we finally got the English translation from.the viz manga collections a couple years ago. I don't know if there will be any media for the Age of Primes, but I'd love to get an animated film or short series that tells the stories of the 13 Primes, but also covers the events of Return of Convoy. Having the 12 Primes and their objects be the only way to restore Optimus to life then face Super Megatron and eventually Dark Nova/Star Giant with the other Primes there to rally around Star Optimus Prime.
I like the idea of Optimus as one of the Thirteen.
Star Optimus Prime/Convoy is love and all fans should have him! :D
I really, REALLY hope that the upcoming Titan Class Star Convoy/Optimus Prime figure is joined by a commander class sized figure of Grandus and a leader class sized figure of Sky Garry.
Thanks for the video, I learned more about the character
A awesome review! I love the new toys and I also want to see the Japanese versions of series of transformers. Happy new year and blessings to u and your family.
I believe that making Optimus the 13th prime all along really detracts from his character and origins and also takes away some of the intrigue of becoming a Prime.
I completely agree. That's why I separate the two. It's a half baked idea that only works in the Aligned Continuity, and even there I don't like it.
With Star Convoy existed, we MIGHT get our first modernized bots in Battlestars! i expect Sky Garry will be next and Grandus!
i agree with your lore and make sense 👍
Since I do learn, and I actually kind of like the Japanese G1 cartoons, continuity it’s complicated as heck like it’s one piece mixed with Sailor Moon manga ver but a lot more you know tiny time different dimension thing and even I think really good stories like the generation selects manga
10:27 In the Japanese contunity, the Silver Matrix is _not_ the Matrix of Leadership but the most powerful matrix of the Primus Vanguard in the Precursor World of the Transformers Legends comics and became the Zodiac at the creation of the G1 World.
It's also what Super Megatron used to become Ultra Megatron and later used it with Blue Big Convoy's α Matrix to become Ultra Megtron Omega in Generations Selects Special Comic.
Amazing😮😮
Hot Rod, opening Star Optimus Prime's chest: "Get in loser. We're going to fight a giant space tentacle monster."
4:23 Eh, still a lot better than the kiss players series… That one was weird…
This was a good informational video i like the history of star convoy and im definitely getting the new star convoy toy other then that this was a good video I leave a like and I hope you have a good new year
Awesome video, the Japanese TF stories have always intrigued me. I so wish the story had continued here in the US
Takara pushed the release of Star Convoy, Dai Atlas, Super Megatron and God Ginrai a couple years ago, glad to see it finally got its first mainstream western release.
Happy New Year Eva Rodimus primal 🎉
Venger:"Finally, a worthy opponent!"
AOTP Star Optimus Prime:"I rise, You fall!"
What if there were only 12 Primes and the 13th was Optimus who was sent back in time for one reason or another? He's no stranger to the grandfather paradox in the G1 cartoon so this idea would only continue that trend, and it would allow him to keep his "nobody to somebody" origin while still being the 13th Prime.
Now this is a starry, starry prime
Haha did you just drop a Soul Reaver reference?! Nice!! Hastyle is in the credits of the new remastered versions that released this month!
Indeed I did. Definitely want to play the Soul Reaver remasters now.
Love these videos
the aligned/covenant of primus explanation, optimus as the thirteenth, is my favorite. it also explains why he is sometimes called the last prime. he was the last to be created by primus.
😮 oh my God I didn't know soul reaver was a continuity to the transformers for the game. that's like my favorite PS1 game😮🎉❤ thank you so much for putting that in there❤ I'm sorry I talked to text when I'm in a hurry and I don't proofread. So this is a revision of my statement I love what you just sent out.
Here I’m wishing for a Megatron playset/base for smaller Deceptions.
11:07 ….. Star Convoy is the best name 😂 Star Optimus Prime just sounds janky AF
They should have called him Star Prime, as the Optimus part doesn't quite fit with him, but then again, it's about marketing to kids, and Optimus Prime is a household name so if a parent browsing for a big gift to a boy who likes trucks and robots, upon seeing him might decide that he would make a good gift!!
"Star Convoy" just rolls off the tongue better.
I would prefer if Optimus Primal was the reincarnation of the 13th Prime, given his messianic role in Beast Machines and the comics that followed.
Since you mentioned him, I always felt Violence Jawger was a good English interpretation of the name.
Though if you want a musician, go with Violin Jagger.
You can't keep a good Bot down.
Violent Juggler
Heard about star convoy and Super megatron years ago always wanted figs of them but for now star optimus prime looks as good as the original star convoy plus i like the design the gold star above his window pecks befits him as the greatest leader it always feel like hes back and better then ever with a new form that fits him well
My take is, in a world of franchises and continuities, I really enjoy the constant reimagining of transformers instead of sticking to one story.
Me yesterday: "Who is Star Optimus Prime, and what's his back story?"
Rodimus Primal today: "This is Star Optimus Prime, and this is his back story."
That's freaky. Thanks, Man. 😊
This was great, but no mention of the deep law as to why the new Star Optimus Prime comes with Micromaster Hot Rod according to Slag Podcast when Hot Rod left in Japanese’s cartoons…. He became leader of planet micro and the merger of the his matrix & zodiac with Optimus prime is why his included as a merger of the final 2 matrix holders…. Can you cover this in a video at some point please sounds really interesting!
@@edwardwilliams3740 I plan to when I remaster my Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime video.
1:40 It was Hasbro fault for the decline of the Transformers, when they canceled their animated shows they delivered an almost deadly shot to the franchise, thanks God Japan was able to saved the Transformers
Not, it was Beast Wars that saved Transformers, when Hasbro entrusted Kenner with the task. Takara stopped doing Transformers following the end of Operation Combination, then tried with G-2 in 1995, then stopped again until Beast Wars.
@@twistedgaming9185 So we are going to pretend that Hasbro didn´t want to ended the franchise after the Rebirth?
@@javiersantanaaviles5885 If Hasbro wanted Transformers done, it wouldn't be here today.
Can you pls do a retrospective on octane tonight pls Rodimusprimal and happy new year
3:37 But why was his body there? As I recall in Head Master Optimus died on Cybertron, what was his corpse doing on another planet?
5:30 I suppose that in the Japanese continuity Beast Wars happened very differently, because if the 2 aliens from Beast Wars died, that means that in that future the Maximals will not have it so complicated.
@@alejandrotello7903 apparently, Dark Nova stole it somehow.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, bud!
I see things a little differently....at least for my own head cannon. If Optimus were to become 'Star Convoy' it would be under very different circumstances and would be a temporary form. Or one he could re-assume depending on the need.}
I also do personally see Optimus as the 13th Prime....but not quite as sometimes depicted. I like the idea of Autonomous Maxiumus being the original bearer of the title but it is then passed on to a young bot originally named 'Star'. He then is renamed Orion Pax and then becomes Optimus Prime.
I would also do the 13 Primes a little differently. Or at least, there would still be a 'succession' of sorts from Prima, the first Matrix Bearer to later Optimus Prime. I had done some reading via Wiki a while ago to learn who some of the different Primes were before Optimus or even Sentinel and found one named Primon - though I think he is just another version of Prima from a separate story line. But I like to think there were different Primes in different eras leading up to first Sentinel and then to Optimus. I also like to think that, unlike Transformers One, Dark of the Moon or some other stories, that Sentinel was not a villain. He becomes a worthy Matrix Bearer though is young and a bit like the Sentinel from Transformers Animated in attitude.
I was really sad in Transformers One when Alpha Trion died. And sooooo soon! But I liked how the Primes ALL died in battle rather than the 'War of the Primes' idea from many portions of the Aligned Continuity.
I also borrow the idea from one of the other series that Optimus and Magnus are brothers, twins, and that they each had different names originally. They are both sent to the future to protect them, so it wouldn't be quite like what the Aligned Continuity does. I am still rethinking some ideas on how the Primes fell in my own personal head cannon....but I like the idea that maybe they DIDN'T die, or at least not all of them. Specifically Solus Prime and Megatronus Prime. I STILL don't see him as the bad guy among the Primes. I still see Liege Maximo that way and maybe HE could still be the reason the Primes fell but were not necessarily destroyed. Where they ended up going to I don't know yet. But it's fun to imagine the possibilities.
Merry Christmas and happy new year 🎉🎉
Confession time... when I was a kid in the 90's I bought a transforming robot toy from a toy store that was going out of business. There was lots of Japanese writing on the package and it had Autobot stickers on it so I picked it up but I thought it was some weird bootleg or knockoff, the stores were flooded with them. We didn't have the internet back then and I knew nothing about Japanese Transformers. It was Sky Garry. I blew him up with fireworks on the 4th of July. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
check brave series too
Looks cool.
See I've had a head canon for a couple months that the 13th prime is a new take on Omega Prime from RID 2001. But after hearing the name Autonomous Maximus that sounds way better. Also Star Optimus should be a final form for when Optimus has the power of the other primes like in RID 2015.
I like to call star Optimus prime/Star convoy Starmus Prime cause you know Star ⭐️
*STAR CONVOY.. The toy line is called Zone ( Japanese exclusive)
I love Transformers lore
Starscream CLAUS is that you?!
my god this is so convoluted - what does the matrix of leadership even mean in this case?
Happy newest year!
Holy canola, Starimus Prime is getting an American Release!
If megatron is galaxy, then optimus prime is a star.