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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2018
- Need a new battery for the JBL Xtreme bluetooth speaker?
In my case i got a used one from Ebay where the battery was dead. It didn't charge anymore, and it was out of warranty.
I was going to try to convert it to Li-ion batteries the same way as they are used in the JBL Xtreme 2.
Found and old broken laptop battery with 6 18650 cells in it. Took that apart, and was able to recover four good batteries from that pack.
Now they are in the Xtreme, and they are doing a good job. Charging works again, and the Xtreme frame needed only a small modification in order to fit the new batteries.
Have a look, share, comment, like, watch and learn! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
I used 18650s too but only difference between your method and mine is that I didn't have to MOD the battery compartment. But I like how you made batteries look like they came out of a factory, looks a lot more cleaner and neat compared to mine. Awesome work!
Taylor Soloai my batteries didn’t fit without modifying the case. There was a 1-2mm gap when you put the lid on, and you try to avoid any physical pressure on those batteries. Then again, as long as it works.
This is clean. Good job
Sorry for the very very late reply. Just want to say thank you for sharing your video. I was able to gain knowledge and experience. Especially during the replacement of the battery of my jbl extreme speaker got from my father in law. Now i have two of them the other one was the jbl boombox. I did the same.
Nice job. Great idea to reuse some old batteries that are still good! Voted 👍
Thnx for the gread video i was able to fix ky jbl xtreme that i had put a way for a year.
Great ideas sir
THANK YOU! I T WAS VERY HELPFUL.
So good..i follow wat u do and its work it..thankyou so much sir..here in phillippines
hndi nmn ba mabilis masira paps?
ako naman jbl charge2 kinuha ko lang yung board sa lumang battery. isang 18650 na batt with 3.7V so far so good hehe
Boss 18650 b n 3500 mah at anong brand?TIA
Do you need to know about Mah or not when you want to install it ?
Boa noite eu sou brasileiro e achei seu vídeo muito bom o melhor do TH-cam parabéns
Obrigado!
I made the change, it was running for 8 hours, but when I plugged in is going to the 5th led and blinking non stop.I removed the charger and is not turning on animore. Is turning on only when you plugged in the charger.Help please !
Thanks
Do you get JBL xtreme distortion at full volume.? i got some distortion . sounds like clipping,after battery replacement 18650.But only when i listen music on yotube music or songs from my phone with hight quality 320kbps
mygiguser can i use 21700 or 20700 batteries for that mod?for more runtime.
Hi, thank you for this demonstration! I have done the above with some Samsung 3500mAh batteries. How have your batteries held up? Are they still keeping a charge after 4 years? Ive noticed when charging mine that the indicators go from 1-4 very quickly and also from 4-1 very quickly. Have you noticed that your battery level indicator is now less accurate?
not really, mine still works great. Make sure you have real Samsung batteries, there are counterfeit cells out there. And it takes only one bad cell in the pack to make the battery pack behave weird.
And what do you mean by very quickly? How long does it take?
Thanks for this video. I'm just wondering how to do a li ion battery pack with negative, positive and data cable as well. My Sony XB30 bluetooth speaker has 3 connectors on the battery port. What happens if I make the battery pack without that third (yellow) port?
you need to build the battery the same way the old one was. the 3rd connector may be for temperature monitoring, and the whole thing may not work without. But the XB30 battery is already made from 18650s? Does it make sense to just buy a new battery pack?
@@mygiguser thank you so much for replying me. I'm not sure if the battery package of my BT speaker is made using 18650 batteries. I just want to know how to make a new package because I found that purchasing a new one is not that easy and to be honest I really like the sound quality of my bluetooth speaker so much that I don't want to throw it away when its battery pack gets damaged.
I have one question. In managment board you have the red positive cable and the black negative cable right? What is that green cable?
We have two pair of batteries. Each pair has 3.7V, and the two pairs are wired in series to achieve 7.4V
The green wire is the positive of the first pair, and at the same time the ground of the second pair.
This is needed to be able to charge both packs to the same level (also called balancing the battery pack).
@@mygiguser okkkkk now i undestand. I'll do tomorrow than ill feedback here. Thank you very much
What size of battery wrap did you use on this video?the one you use to make 4 batteries
I found it on Amazon: Uxcell a15012900ux0431 PVC Heat Shrink Wrap, for 2 x 18650 Battery, 10 m, 50 mm Width, Red
How did you manage to solder the wires to the BMS module? Solder doesn't stick to those plates when I try to solder them.
it should stick, no problem here
You need to solder the battery ends off that board, heat it up with the soldering iron, and remove them first.
@@mygiguser Thank you.
What firmware version is the best for jbl xtreme ?
I will try this. I have 18650 4x 5000mah..thank for this video..
there is no such thing a 5000mAh 18650, that sounds fake. Where did you get those from? China?
@@mygiguser no.. I took from broken samsung laptop. And Ialso have 3500mah
@@BLACK_HEART_1993 How is it working for you mine are 4200
Thank you so much for this video , what diffrence between your way and other way i found at youtube ?that video i saw , 2 batteries conected to buttun bms and 2 more batteries conected another + and - at up on bms , your diagram is diffrence , sorry for my bad english , after 3 yaers works perfectly ?
Mine still works great
@mygiguser can you explain??
why you put the batteries in series and not like the original configuration 2x parallel ??
second question: does the green wire connect on the BMB on both BM contacts??
@2:44 is the schematic of this, and yes, green wire connects to both contacts.
The original configuration is 2x parallel? what does that even mean?
Ok let me change the question so you understand it better , the original configuration was two flat batteries independent connected to the BMB. why did you made one batterypack out of four batteries and not two packs of 2 batteries? And connected them the same way as the flat ones
I already replaced with 18650 battery but the problem i already charge it for 12 hours still it wouldn't got full what's seems to be the problem?
Hi! I want to know if this bateries incresed the batry life?
yes, they do.
Great video.
One question... How did you test the laptop batteries to determine if they are good or bad?
Thanks.
i used an intelligent charger/discharger to charge them one by one. There was only one bad in the whole pack.
@@mygiguser OK thanks. No easy way that I can check it without fancy equipment? (also using an old laptop's battery and don't want to use cells that are bad)
@@HeinrichvanRooyen There is an easy way, youtube it.
Hello, after the mod I got a little distortion on the side of the pasive radiator that is taken out when reaching low frequencies, what could it be. I tried to tighten up the bolts that hold it as muchs as i can and it seems it helped a little but I cant figure out what reaaly could be the problem.
Wires touching surfaces can cause distortion/rattle..
@mygiguser I accidentaly ordered a new battery for the xtreme 2 instead of xtreme. Could I just trim up the battery spot like you did and put in the xtreme 2 one?
the battery in Xtreme1 has 5 pins, and the battery in the Xtreme2 has 6 pins. So the answer is no. You would have to rewire that new battery pack to get the connector right.
@@mygiguser what is the yellow color in 6 pin xtreme 2? i now the red are positive black is negative and white is temperature but the yellow im confuse.
Nice work! Can you see any problems with having more batteries installed? I'm planning too putt batteries, in both sides under the air thingy, aswell as we're you put youre batteries, will the charger mange it? I know the sound quality can be an issue... I just want to maximize the battery life, for like festivals or camping usage. Great video!
If you add batteries in parallel, that shouldn't matter as long as you don't run out of space inside. I am sure the sound will change, if you use up all the space inside the speaker.
i was planning on doing thia to increase the capacity i just wanted to add 2 more. i have 3000 mah batteris so if i wire in parallel that geta me up to 6000 if i add another 2 that gets me to 9000 right??
Hi!
i was doing the same mod for JBL boombox can you help with wiring. It has 4 x 3.7 V cells like xtreme but the BMS have 4 pads 2 B+ and 2 B-. Should i individually connect 2 x 4 cells in parallel and connect them to B+ and B- respecively or need balance lead. Bit confused any help will be appreciated.
connect the same way as the original battery was connected
@@mygiguser yes connected 8 Lion cells (Sony VTC6) in 2S2P configuration to make a 14000mAH 7.4v battery pack. The cells where at storage while making the battery pack. After installation it got 100% charged in 2 hours and i have been doing a test from past 12 hours. The backup has increased as still the 5th led has not started blinking. Thanks @mygiguser for the idea.
What did you use to cut the piece of plastic that doesn't let 18650s to fit?Should i take care of anything?|I am charging to full at the moment with the speaker assembled, the door doesn't close good so there is air leak and distortion at the bass, i was wondering if would good to mod it, i will check how much it lasts with the 18650s and if is a big improvement then i will go on
darkovsky i used a Dremel.
@@mygiguser this is what i thought, thank you
Hi. I'm looking forward to doing this with the JBL Charge 3. Are there any circuit schematics, using panasonic batteries to help? Thank you
Not sure, i don't own a Charge 3.
mygiguser, thank you man! Nice
@@scalabreza man i have jbl charge 3. I have problem my battery because its getting big.. It is because of over charge??
@@carlitoboquila5267 its because theres pressure inside the battery, u definitely have to change it, could explode while charging/using
There are gaps by your battery bay don't you hear distortion sounds?I used silicon and a layer of duct tape on mine does the trick well
No, i didn't have any distortions. The gap you could close with epoxy.
Can you please explain to me the diagram shown at 2:43. This diagram is different from the other vids showing. I just want to know what and why because I don't have any idea. Thanks for answering.
not sure what there is to explain? how is it different than others? The original battery has two pouches, my setup has 2 sets of 2 batteries in parallel, and the wiring is the same as the original battery pack. And btw this setup works in my speaker since i made the video, and that is 2 years now.
@@mygiguser thank you so much for responding. Is it okay for those 2 wires in the middle to get in contact with each other? I'm talking about the wire that connects to the green wire. I hope you understand what im saying as I don't really know how to explain it.
@@mygiguser I'm just currently waiting for the 18650s that I ordered before I do the procedure. I hope I wont blow up my speaker lol
Very good, very useful. Would you like to know the battery life and if there was any bass loss? This how much mAh and voltage this managment board has? My original jbl has 10.000mah.
Le o don’t know the battery life, no bass loss, and this setup has the same BMB as the original battery.
@@mygiguser Nice. I have 4 batteries with 3.7v and 2600mah. Can i use same managment board as you ?
Any gain out of doing this? Increased battery life, better sound etc? Also, any downsides? Charging issues, etc?
Harrison Gieske no downsides. I hear about a few people having battery issues, this video is to help them.
When you make the battery pack, what size nickel strip did you use and where do you get them?
nytrhythm i don’t remember, but i got it from Amazon
Weißt du ob die Xtreme 2 den gleichen Akku drin hat?
Bobby Xtreme 1 hat Li-Po Pack und Xtreme 2 hat Li-Ion Pack
Not sure the batteries setup, BM combine to top and bottom, how the chip know the batteries are balance?
John Lee when wired in parallel, they balance themselves.
Keep in mind, this pack consists of 4 batteries, that is two pairs. The battery board you need to use will balance one pair with the other pair.
i bought some to do on my charge 3 im confused on the rating of the batteries they are rated at 3000 mah 3.7v is that each cell or for both?
WCxColossus each cell
@@mygiguser so with 2 cells ill be at stock mah for my charge 3?
Hi. Great job. But is your battery diagram correct? It seems different from original bateries
Le o how is it different?
i look at it again, and it looks good
@@mygiguser the green one, that negative, seems to me being in the positive and negative in the board. And once again, great video im going to do the same saturday with my jbl. Thanks
Agreed, wiring is not the same as original batteries, couple other videos confirmed correct wiring, nit like this video
Hey giguser thnx for the help my jbl works properly now, for increased battery life instead of 4 I placed 8 batteries (4on each side) Jst one issue when charging after 30 mins the 4th led starts blinking and after tht it reaches the 5th led then 1hr later again 4th led starts blinking and it goes on forever. While playing I get a very large playback time, but how would I knw tht batteries are fully charged coz 4th led starts binking and goes on forever also would like to knw is there anything other wrong with it coz my batteries I used were of good quality
I don't know, maybe the battery board is too small for that many batteries?
Same problem with my JBL
The battery compartment is not closing fully not any space left so is there another way that I could put some hot glue from outside to stop air leakage ??
Yash Dobra that’s why i removed some of the housing. i show that in the video. if you use hot glue then you have trouble later in case you have to replace those batteries next time!
@@mygiguser yes now I see I would remove some of the housing and then I m sure they all will fix and the compartment will be tight when closed and no air will escape, followed ur instructions dude. Keep it up the pro. Battery pack idea is awesome keep it up and thnx for making my day 😇
I did it. But the cable burned out. Which cable we need to use is the vehicle wiring cable?
you did what? and what vehicle wiring cable? what cable burnt out?
@@mygiguser
I used a thin cable.I made the wrong arrangement short circuit
A bateria original são duas células de 7,4v 5000mah em série, então nessa adaptação as baterias vão ficar com 3,7v???
Ai tá em paralelo e em série!! Ai vai ficar 7,4v !!
Hi bro. Very nice video. Nicely explained. I have one question The original battery is 5000mA 7.2V, I am planning to put 6 no’s of battery, each battery 1.2 V(AA) 1300mA. Battery size 6 no’s fits very well , Is is possible to connect 6 no’s AA battery in series to the circuit?
no it is too long
Muito bom!!
How we can use suatable BMS for 18650 ? Original xtreme bms cutting out earler `cose maded for LiPo batts. 18650 will last longer, but need to replace bms as well. Dont know why and for what they use to use 3rd wires after bms. As usual two is enouth. Bms after bms?
The third wire is for temperature on the battery pack. If you don't like the original BMS, just replace it with a new one.
@@mygiguser wow - r u shure? Have u tried do not connect it, jbl works fine? I belived 3d wire connected to the middle battery point
Did you see the drawing @2:44 in the video? That is how it is connected. The connector to the main board has 5 connectors two GND, two power, and the one in the middle is Temp.
@@mygiguser the green wire with the thermocouple to measure temperature?
How many hours can you listen to
Hey, I’m trying to do the same with the boombox 1 and i found they are 4 cells not 2 and the BMS is like a double of the one on the xtreme so could you please tell me how to connect? Should i get 8 batteries 18650 ? Or only 4 ? Please help
doesnt boombox one have 18650s? i think its safe to get a new battery of ebay.
No it’s not unfortunately it’s liPO battery i guess
Could you please send me your facebook profile or anything so we can chat on ?
is it safe to open the bloated battery of my jbl charge 2? not entirely the lithium itself.. just only the shrink case plastic that wraps around it. i was also going to try this method instead of buying new battery. i find it so expensive. thanks.
Lafflaga Belonio NO, that is not safe at all. if it is bloated you MUST replace that battery!!!
@@mygiguser ok sir thanks for the advice!
are there different ways of wiring the battery i say another video and the guys wired it differently
WCxColossus not that i know of, can you share a link?
@@mygiguser thats the link
I am looking at this, and i connected mine the same way as the original battery pouches were connected, then i drew the schematic. Looking at the video link you sent, he is connecting the very same way, but it looks more complicated. The schematic is the same. That answers your question, there is only one way to connect the wires.
Look at this, i wired it the same way as the original Xtreme 2 batteries th-cam.com/video/Qut7biIdL-Q/w-d-xo.html
I have a problem with my jbl xtreme I just bought a battery for my jbl it won't charge up at all and it won't play unless it's plugged in and even then it still turns off, and just to let you know it was doing this before I put a new battery. So please help me what do you think is going on with it?
If it is not the battery then it could be the power supply? Can you check the voltage when the power supply is attached? Maybe it doesn't have enough power?
Defective battery
Ok. I've seen people with that it keeps blinking with the fifth led. Why is that and what could you do about it?
Well when you have a brand new great battery this charge indicator may work. Once the battery was in use for a while it is more and more likely that the 5th LED stays on, because that kind of battery looses its capability to charge 100%. And the 5th LED shows the 100%. I don't think it is a big deal.
Should ı buy a new charger after the change battaries for speaker?
No
What is the white cable on the battery for?
temperature sensor
@@mygiguser Thanks sir!
Important! In this repair need to change the BMS. This one is shitty, does't have temperature sensor on the cells and does't have a ballancer.
So, perhaps show how you got the case opened up instead of just skipping over it.
U said there are ready to buy batteries for replacement but i only find Lithium Polymer batteries, that are different batteries, LiIon like u use have much more lifetime even if you store it with 100%. :)
That's correct, but if you buy a ready made pack, you don't have to modify the case and you don't need to solder. Not everybody wants to do that.
can you show how to do like this for JBL Bommbox ?
I did without cut internal body just punched n screwed no air leak working perfect from india
After ive done this, when fully charged, the led lights are not lit anymore, is that normal?
Jay ar Zamora only if the batteries are fully charged. Otherwise some should be on while charging.
I will use 26650 3.7 volts with 5000mah.base on your drawing i will connect only the blue and red?no need the green?
26650 doesnt fit, and why are you questioning the green? Green is shown in the schematic because it is necessary. I dont understand why you question that? Also 5000mAh may be too much for the BMS, the max for a 18650 is 3000mAh as far as i know, everything higher is fake.
@@mygiguser because i will use only single battery..26650 5000mah
Nice work man. Can I follow the same method for my Harmon Kardon Go Play?
Can you do a video on HK GoPlay battery upgrade too?
banubash not sure, i don’t have that speaker
jbl xtreme slow charging after 18650 battery 2600 mah panasonic replacement, what"s the problem?
what do you mean by extremely slow? is your power supply ok? how did you wire this (same as in video?)?
@@mygiguser after 10 hours charging last diode of indicator still blink, power supply is ok,wire is same as in video. how many hours do you need to charge you speaker after upgrade 18650 batteries?
I did the same but I have no tension on the balancer output why?
Good question
it turned out that the batteries were not charged enough, does it close normally?I can't close the battery compartment
1:39 Those magnet does not conduct electricity. Therefore, there is no insulation on the connectors :D
Will 2 batteries setup work.. if yes then how to connect bms?
where do you put 2 batteries? there is not enough space
@@mygiguser i have onepack inside near the radiator. can install another pack in place of the original
update on jbl charge2. i was able to salvage d pcb board on the swollen lithium ion battery of my jbl charge2. at first i was very hesitant and afraid to remove the board. i carefully peeled the shrink tube that was covering the battery also tried not to damage the body of the lithium battery to avoid sudden fire. well im very thankful that nothing happened that time. i swapped the old battery with a single 18650mAh 3.7V. as of this moment my speaker is working again.. i suggest not try or risk the same way i did if you dont have any small knowledge about electronics.
What is the model of JBL BMS module sir?
i have no idea, i used the one from the old battery
@@mygiguser I wanna know if its 1s, 2s or 3s..,
@@mygiguser do you think that the bms of the charge3 is the same to extreme BMS?
Bro there is one more problem after I connected everything and closed the JBL after playing it the bass sounds wierd some people say there is air leak but don't know from where the air is leaking or which part to seal pls help
Yash Dobra did you remove some of the battery compartment so that the new batteries fit 100%? If not, the door doesn’t close and then air leaks! There are not many spots where air could leak, but the battery door has to close all the way!
@@mygiguser ohhh crap! There's not much space there . That's why the door doesn't close fully , just some space is left it doesn't close dude is there no other way that I can seal it ?
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Dear, it is assumed that when installing the batteries has more mA than the origianal, how does the led behave according to the load? Is there a problem if I install samsung batteries 18650 3500mA? How long is the battery life in operation with the new arrangement?
Jose Ramos Ramos no problem with the LED charge indicator, it is based on battery voltage. The more Ah the new batteries have the longer they last. Battery lifetime is hard to say, it depends on the battery quality. I think Samsung is pretty solid.
Good day sir..Can i mod it to a motorcycle battery?..does it safe?..thanks if there's any reply
Ramon Tulfo maybe, but li-ion has more power
@@mygiguser thanks sir..i'm planning to do it😁..will it burn the board?..i think there's no thread here in yt anyone trying to do it on motorcycle battery..btw i'm filipino..hope you understand my english
Every 18650 have different amphere,is that ok to use?
yes why not?
@@mygiguser it's confuses me that's why..i saw 40A 35A 30Aand i dont know whats the use of that..thanks for the answer by the way..😅now i just need to buy 2 18650 to fix my jbl.
Ok so now everything is done correctly just while charging the 5th led keeps on blinking after keeping it charging for a very long time also it keeps on blinking idk what to do pls help tell me when to stop my charging my
Yash Dobra measure the voltage of every single battery, are they all the same?
@@mygiguser so I checked the voltage of 2 batteries when I checked after charging was 3.87 and other two batteries was 3.72 this was it.
hi,do anyone know solutiom for xtreme 2?,because theres a yellow and white cable,the white cable with 10k resistance not works,been changing the battery cell with original bms board but the bms didnt showing output power
the xtreme 2 has already Li-ion batteries, you can buy a complete pack with bms
the battery itself here was way to overprice, the price of the battery are like as the speaker itself sir,cant turn the speaker without battery😢
is there a way to use the speaker without battery,sir???
How about direct current sir?
The more the better. Base needs a lot of current.
Look at this video, i used 3000mAh Samsung cells th-cam.com/video/lRUw4Im3o9g/w-d-xo.html
hi.. is your diagram of battery is correct??
Oh yes, it still works fine. I know what I am doing.
Can you show with jbl Boombox battery ?
it is the same concept basically all the same, no need to show this again
I did it on mine and it worked.
Eu fiz no meu e funcionou.😁
Como fez para conseguir soldar na placa da bateria original ?
Não aceita solda
@@Ambr1942BR Compra uma plaquinha BMS 2s de até 10A es já feliz😊
how many volts should be the battery of JBL XTREME?
7.2V and 8.4V max th-cam.com/video/PrKXumAvC8g/w-d-xo.html
@@mygiguser tnxs for the answer, so cannot put 14.8 volt right?
@@mygiguser how many volt each battery that you use here in your video?
No you cannot, that is way to much voltage!
@@mygiguser can i use 4 pcs of 3.7 volts each battery?
But there is hole in the speaker box now. Radiators needs a sealed box to be able to make bass
fwe we use silicon
mygiguser maybe some harder glue would be better but yeah
Lost the bass
Супер!
Can I use 4 18650 3.7V batteries each?
Vitor_ isn’t that what i used?
@@mygiguser so using 4 battery is 14.8v! right
Depends on how you link them
Why not make a wire with plug going outside, so you can connect and disconnect multiple batteries ?
Make a fake battery pack inside to keep the sound the same
because it is ugly
Please make jbl flip 4 battery video
plss. can u make this for JBL chagre 2 + with 3.7V battery
Sorry they 18650 Li-ion don't fit in any Charge speaker.
Can I do that to my JBL charge 3? What's that a combine of parallel and series connection?
No, not enough space in the Charge3, and yes parallel and series!
What is the voltage of that connection? I thought that jbl extreme is only about 3.7v
I love dis video
I am an engineer I do dis all always but today was bad for me I Couldn't do for extreme 3 jbl can you me
th-cam.com/video/P8x4QGRrXwA/w-d-xo.html
The bms is dead what I do, HELP ME!!!
buy a new battery from ebay
In india right now. God 😱
Oi boa tarde como faz na boombox 1
Bem, você tem que desmontar tudo. É mais fácil comprar uma bateria nova no Ebay e depois assistir ao meu vídeo aqui:
th-cam.com/video/bS7SdO_4nWE/w-d-xo.html
Ela já dá desmontar
Tem como vc falar como fazer
McGuyver
Молодец, я звук выключила и просто посмотрела, нормально все понятно как делать
вы молодец, а то большинство мужиков тут в ступоре от загадки зеленого провода)
Wenn ich 4x18650ga nehme mit 3500mAh bei 3,6 Volt habe ich 7Ah bei 7,2V also ~50Ah. Ist das Problematisch denn der Lautsprecher maximal 40W im Netzbetriebt leisten kann? Beim Originalakku bleibt man ja bei 37Ah. Hoffe du kannst mir helfen.
Danke und super Video
Das Netzteil hat 18v ist es also doch möglich dass der Lautsprecher mehr als 8,4v verträgt?
Der Strom wird vom battery management board an der Batterie geregelt und limitiert. Ich glaube nicht dass es dort zu Problemen kommt.
Sou brasileiro tem como vc vender uma bateria dessa pra mim
Desculpe, não. Existe Ebay no Brasil?
Bist du deutscher?