I SPECIFICALLY asked for this in Atari's 2600+ youtube announcement, and they responded to me positively. The 7800 was my first ever console. To anyone asking, this is specifically for us who are nostalgic for the metal bezel and color spectrum bar, not the wood grain. Lol 😊 I'm pre-ordering this!!
I’m nostalgic for that 7800 look. It was my first console, too. They kind of missed the mark trying to recreate here, I think. Nostalgia isn’t going to get me. I already got the 2600+. I don’t like the strip. I don’t want a wireless controller. Sorry to say they completely missed me with this one. A 5200+ though, in which I’ve never owned or played, that I’d get excited over.
@SumDumGy yeah I hear ya. I wish the strip was a bit thinner the way I remember it. But I know I specifically skipped the 2600+ hoping this would come out, and I'm glad it did. It's close enough for me.
@@SevenlivesDesigns I feel ya. For me already having the 2600+, this is pointless to me now. Atari might have had better luck with sales had they not opted for 7800 comparability. If they had, I’d consider it.
@SumDumGy yeah definitely. If you got the 2600+ it would seem redundant to get this unless their capability was more accurate. (2600+ for 2600 games and 7800+ being backwards compat). You could sell yours and get this one. Lol But if the aesthetics is not something that bothers ya...then yeah man, totally. You already have what they're selling..just a different shell. 👍
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@@PitfallHarry72 AV modded mine. Have it running into an composite AV switch with other consoles and and that is plugged into my Samsung LCD. Looks very crisp. Gave the same treatment to my 2600 and Colecovision. Next up, Intellivision.
@@jjcollinssame. I just held off on getting a 2800+ and waited for this when it was rumored. I really need a 5200+. My old 4 controller is on its last legs sadly.
@@aaronhiggs This would be nice, but I imagine making a system with 2 cart ports would probably up the price (not that I wouldn't pay it). Considering an 800XL is basically a 5200 with keys the 2 different size carts always annoyed me. Although you might run into issues as a lot of Atari 8bit stuff was disk based. You'd need a way to support ATR roms. Like a Max flash style cart or a SIO2SD type device which could also add to the price.
I was hoping that Atari would release a 5200 system! There are so many old school games I would love to play such as Pengo,Buck Roger’s Planet of Zoom,Star Trek Simulator,I could go on. I saw the press release for the 7800 & you shared things with me about it I didn’t know yet! Thanks 🙏
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Judging by how awesome $50 chinese handhelds are now, they should def be able to design something for Lynx that looks like a Lynx but more of a convenient modern size. I would imagine they could make something pretty awesome for $50=$70 range. The library for Lynx has aged well since it was so arcade focused.
This is what the retro Atari VCS console should have been! It plays cartridge games and has decent NES style controllers, and the Atari 7800 has been getting more homebrew games, thanks to 8 Bit Guy even helping to publish new 7800 games. Even some fan making a Mega Man game on 7800!
@@JustinEmlay Because it was actually a great console at its core with beautiful games. It flipped because 1) It’s outrageous size and, 2) faulty controller design. Both issues can be solved with today’s technology. Given a proper chance that console could soar again. …and the 7800 was pretty much a flop, as well, because it was released in the U.S. too late and with an inferior controller to its main competition, solved in Europe.
@@SumDumGy No it wasn't. Extremely bad controller, no backward compatibility and very little support. It was by far the worst selling console Atari ever put out. There is absolutely nothing the 5200 can do that the 7800 can't. With that said, it made little sense to release the 2600+. Should have just stuck with the 7800+ and left it at that since the 7800 was backwards compatible.
We definitely need a 5200 redo along with modern tech 5200 analog controllers. Its a beautiful system with great games and lots of homebrew titles. A rerelease of the trackball controller would also be greatly welcomed.
I’m nothing but happy about this, very cool that Atari just keeps bringing out new games and as a collector and original 7800 owner even though I already have a 2600+ this is going to look great right beside it. Cheers everybody 🕹
My main concerns are 1. The latency issues with the gamestation Pros wireless controllers dont carry over to the 7800. 2. Compatibility issues with certain legacy games, and homebrews.
One of the problems with the 5200 is the controller is not fondly remembered in general, even if not considering the durability concerns of the original controllers. If they skip to the Jaguar, the controller is well suitable to play most 5200 games so it seems like a better idea to skip and later down the line release a Jaguar+ with a 5200 adapter and sell reissue 5200 controllers compatible with it separately
This is my favorite console, hands-down. Not because it was the most powerful, or that it had the best suite of games, surely not, but what it did have is character. And the parents liked the fact that I already had 100+ 2600 games already. The genesis of backward compatibility, I love it!
I bet they don't bother with the 5200 because of the keypad controller. That beast has 19 buttons and an analog stick by my recollection. The analog stick is easy these days but your average XBOX style controller has 11 buttons, a Dpad and 2 analog sticks.
I don't think I'll be getting this since the 2600+ already plays the games. BUT, It is cool and I hope people pick it up, I want the company to do well!
I love the original 2600 and never had a 7800... but I have to admit I find the look of this more appealing than the (timeless) 2600+. I always liked that later black/silver/rainbow aesthetic. its just brings back good memories of early 80s tech. I think thats why I'm still so fond of the gamestation pro.
A new trackball would be cool. I think the 7800 will cut into 2600 sales since they are pretty much the same inside. I doubt they will come out with a 5200+, but who knows. The 400 mini already plays 5200 games, although not with original cartridges.
If you want to use a trackball on Xbox PlayStation and Nintendo you could buy one of those DB9 to USB dongles and plug it into one of those systems and buy an original 2600 ambidextrous proline trackball and you should be able to play trackball games on it.
Looking forward to this. I passed on the 2600+ because I still have a 2600 and a Retron 77. I always preferred the stylings of the 7800 and Jr. When I was younger I appreciated when companies came out with more modern looking gear. The Atari 800XL vs the 800, the Commodore 64C vs the 64 and the list goes on...
Somewhat disappointed that the M-Network collection only has 4 games. But at least it has Astroblast. Other than that I'm in for Crystal Quest, Caverns of Mars, and the Epyx collection.
The Atari 7800 aesthetic is more my speed. It's nice that the CX78+ is getting re-released as a wireless variant. The new round of carts is interesting as well. I look forward to your future coverage of all the new goodies releasing later this year. 👍👍
A modern, HDMI version of the very console that got me into gaming to begin with. I will definitely be picking this up. I always regretted letting the one from my childhood go.
This looked very cool to me at first. But then I wondered what purpose it serves. As far as I can tell, the console itself doesn't do anything different from the 2600+. The only differences are the shell design, and what is included. I checked the page for the wireless CX40, and it says it uses a wireless dongle to connect, which would mean it will work wirelessly on even the original 1977 console. I think they should've made a dual-slot console that also supports 5200 cartridges in addition, so it wouldn't be redundant. Also, I'd like to see one that runs the games natively, rather than via software emulation. Maybe "system-on-a-chip" (like the Atari Flashback 2), or even that FPGA method people keep talking about. Still, credit where credit is due, and that's the cartridges. Bringing back old games, and new ones, that run on the original hardware. I wish Nintendo was doing this, too. It's a very cool idea.
The 7800+ is going to be a tough sell though, as the amount of 7800 carts in the wild is a tiny fraction of 2600 carts available. A much smaller install base. Very cool nonetheless. How about an actual 2600 (not emulation) though? That would be great!
I’d love to see a few cut scenes/levels/space stations you can dock with etc. in Bentley Bear and Asteroids respectively. Wherever it makes sense in these older games.
It seems too similar to the 2600+ that it makes little difference to me which one to purchase if at all, so hopefully we'll learn more as we get closer to its physical release.
Everything will work on the 2600+, and I already have one of those, but I pre-ordered a 7800+ anyway even though I don't need one. The games are great, and as someone who lives in Europe, it's going to be cool to not have to pay shipping fees to get indie games here. Bounty Bob is a significantly enhanced 7800 port of the 5200 game; a new 7800 game in 2024 from ATARI. Crystal Quest, Bezerk and Frenzy (I like that they're separate personally), and Caverns Of Mars (2600) have all been pre-ordered. I like that ATARI has included Crystal Quest as a pack-in for the 7800+, and I think that it will help to shift a lot of units for ATARI.
As mentioned on AA, this new system has the latest firmware. I’m disappointed that the 2600+ is not getting the official firmware update, yet. A year now, waiting. I can’t take the risk and buy these games if they don’t work on the original 1.0 version, since I am not going to jump thru hoops to update my 2600+ until I get an official release. Can you ask if any/all the games work on 1.0? I know it says on the website what systems but what firmware? Thanks.
According to Atari’s twitter, seems to be minor memory differences and the cartridge slot has been improved. I am bummed Bentley Bear is just a cart in a sleeve, rather have a boxed copy. But Atari is doing retro goodness better than most. Kudos to them! 🔥
Somewhere in a box either inside my parents house or a shed lies my original 2600 and 7800. I've asked my dad to try to find it but the best he could do was the 2 7800 controllers. I've been using them with my 2600+, but I will most likely be picking up the 7200+ if just for the aesthetic. As I've said elsewhere, it wasn't my first console, but the first of the Console wars. I still maintain that the nostaligia with the 2600 is more directly the games and indirectly the 2600, whereas the 7800 it's about the console itself. That defined you as an "Atari Guy" (or gal) over Intellivision/colecovision/etc.
While this is cool. I have to ask what the gain is here. Other than wireless controllers, I see nothing new here. seems like they made two units that do the same thing.
The Atari 7800 had so much potential to even have done better with the games they created. It was actually a incredible gaming device that suffered a few things that they should of knowing better. But the few games they had were excellent for its time. I will dig in to see what they have done and will probably purchase! I always have thought even the name Atari was a excellent name they came up with! Very cool!
@@seanyoungquist3130 I would suggest anyone order it from anyone other than atari. It took me almost a year to receive something I ordered even when the item said it was in stock.
Ordered mine earlier. I'm also super happy with the new carts on sale. One that is (understandably) overlooked is the 2600 Realsports collection. For $30 it's a great deal.
I know the whole point of these + consoles is to be able to play the actual carts on modern TV's in HD but they all don't work. I really wish they would add a card slot like the Retron 77 has. Collectors and die-hards are still going to buy old and new games to play on the + consoles so I don't think it would hurt these new consoles as far as sales goes.
I kind of wish they'd sell some sort of wireless dongle for the 2600+ for those that don't see that capability as enough to justify spending $130 on a whole other console. But, I'll probably buy a 7800+ anyway... I don't normally collect "modern" retro-inspired stuff but I'm starting to want to do that with the new Atari lineup, just because of how much care and attention to detail they're putting into these things. I want all those games too. We'll see how many I can afford at the time of release (or how many show up as Christmas presents!)
Do Champ games modern releases still not work on the 2600+? I preordered the big bundle this time (I didn't bite on the 2600+). I would like to think the purchase of AA is leading to this homebrew titles getting pretty official now! Nice to see Bob D's work getting out there more!
I'm stoked about those wireless controllers! I use wireless for my retro setup, and I've been hoping for a while that with all these new hardware releases, Atari would eventually bring out wireless controllers. Now, its finally happening!
The Atari 7800 is getting a second chance, and I'm all for it. We saw a bit of that with Atari with the small selection of games and the historical context of the console as a competitor to the NES. Hopefully, with the 7800+, more people will show interest in the console's library of games.
What I find interesting is that the 2600+ plays 2600 and 7800 cartridges through emulation. People are nostalgic for the shape and wood grain style of the 2600, but I know there are people who are nostalgic for the 7800 as well. It makes me wonder if this is a similar concept to the 2600+. Of course the appeal to the 7800+ is wireless connectivity which is great! I had to look back on the 2600+ specs to see if that was there since I don’t own one. My wife will be pleased since she’s such a fan of the Crystal Castles game that she’ll love this Crystal Quest as well. Of course there are other M Network games I would want a release for that I enjoy but playing Astroblast is amazing and 7 Real Sports games in one? Granted I’m not a sports video game player, but I’ll have fun with that one too!
Aside from the wireless support this is very much a 2600+ internally right? it seems like it just in a new shell. So I would hope these new carts all work with the 2600+ and maybe another update to help support more games.
The wireless controller option is the big reason to get this. Also gives the option if you prefer the 7800 look. Good that they went for the European controller instead of the mess that the US 7800 controller was.
Can you imagine a 5200+ console with controllers that ACTUALLY work? Big opportunity to fix all the reliability issues that the 5200 conrollers are known for - They'd sell THOUSANDS of those controllers! Serious question though - aside from the wireless option, what does this bring to the table that the 2600+ didn't? Did I miss something? I can see this as an option for anyone interested who didn't buy a 2600+, but I can't see anyone double-dipping on this.
I'm not too interested, but those adapters and wireless controllers makes me hopeful that some day we will have official Atari wireless USB paddles (either natively or with dongles) without needing to make welding and hot glue messes with original Atari paddles, mouses, potentiometers/rotary encoders, arduino micro boards, etc. Those are fun projects, but it's quite amazing we still need to do that to play warlords or breakout (either for Atari or arcade emulation).
This is definitely exciting but I actually brought an Atari 7800 at my local retro game store two days ago so I'm not sure if I'll get it or not. Iam very interested in the D pad and games coming for it. I would've definitely preferred an Atari 5200+
4:58 I once thought the advertised "Scraper Caper" (COMPUTE! magazine ad) was intended as a sequel to "Miner 2049er". In recent years, I ran into the story that it never got released, possibly classifying it as vaporware.
Wow, thank you for that wonderful rabbit hole! I'd never heard of Scraper Caper, and just returned to this comment after reading up a bit and seeing the old ads. Miner is one of my all-time favorite from the Atari 8-bit days, and I didn't remember reading about the proposed sequel. 😁
I gotta say this is perplexing. 🤷♂️ Besides the 7800 housing what is the point since the 2600+ can also play 7800 carts? And will the problem of many European PAL 7800 carts not working on the 2600+ be fixed with the 7800+? I live in Sweden so 90% of my 7800 carts are of the EU PAL variety. I am happy about the M Network Collection and Frenzy carts though!
Yes! Great news Jon! I also received the news via email from Atari, but unfortunately they don't ship to Europe, for the moment I can't pre-order... i'm very sorry for this...
Same thoughts as others Jon If the wireless CX-78 works on my 2600+ , I'd do that and a few games. But unless the guts of this are beefed up beyond the 2600+ seems kind of useless. I'm still waiting for word of the full firmware update. And someone to do a better tutorial on exactly how to do that, so I can play my 7800 Rampage. As usual, excellent video!!!!!
It's awesome Atari is doing this for fans who own retro cartridges. Hopefully Nintendo will take notice and do an NES+/SNES+ that takes old carts too. Fingers crossed!
Interesting news. For me personally, I'm not interested in the 7800 system as I own an original, and the 2600+. Im sure it's for people who want the 80s look (7800), although the wireless controllers could be cool, I just bought 2 7800 controllers that they just released...and they were a hassle to get here as it is, plus with all the games they just released that I also preordered last round. Possibly only interested in frenzy and berzerk this round. You are absolutely 100% correct when you said they are using their newly acquired acquisitions, as those home brews obviously came from the atariage buy.
The 7800+ seems like more of the same. I most excited about the wireless controllers. I just wish I knew about them before buying two wired cx78+ controllers. Makes plunking down another $35 hard to do.
Too similar and I’m running low on space for similar units. I may consider it if can recognize advanced 2600 Champ Games, etc., better in house sound chip for future home brews or maybe next year when it is on sale. I am on board with a 5200+ that can recognize my AtariMax Multicart. I do appreciate all the new retro products though.
I am interested in the wireless controllers more than anything. A trackball would be like the next thing i would really like to have. Can it play the Harmony cart by chance? I would love to know.
Sucks they're sticking to homebrews. The last batch, I picked up Fatal Run because I already own Ninja Golf. I was hoping for more re-releases, maybe Mean 18 Golf, Alien Brigade, or Planet Smashers.
Look at that, you didn't need news stories for videos, but you got news stories for videos. Great breakdown. I'm wondering if we can use the wireless controllers with the 400 Mini or the VCS800!
Love this news thank you. Interested to hear how that gamepad plays with the games. Also looking forward to Intellivision updates down the road when Atari makes them available.
I tried out the CX-78+ wired when it came out earlier this year: th-cam.com/video/64dHiDhw9G0/w-d-xo.html It's gotta just be a matter of time for an Intellivision+, right? 😁
Another great video! Just like with the 2600+, part of me is really tempted by this. If it allowed support for a multi-cart, and if Champ Games were able to run on it, I'd be sure to buy it! Also, I'd be broke because I'd want to buy every game by Champ Games. They all look very cool!
As a younger person who recently has gotten into Atari and have been playing the ps4 flashback classics, would it be wiser to purchase this 7800+ or the 2600+ of last year? I know you explained the differences in the video, which frankly aren't that many, but as a personal preference which would you purchase as a first time buyer?
Although very similar to the 2600+, I am really happy to see 7800 getting some love. This was my first console growing up and even though I probably will not purchase since I already have the aforementioned 2600+. I probably will be looking into the carts available since 7800 is a little harder to find and this expands the library of a system that was robbed of it's true potential too soon
I prefer this over the 2600+. I still probably won't get it. I know I prefer playing titles on collections such as Atari 50 on modern consoles and emulation on the pc. It would end up being a box on the shelf covered in dust.
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I SPECIFICALLY asked for this in Atari's 2600+ youtube announcement, and they responded to me positively. The 7800 was my first ever console. To anyone asking, this is specifically for us who are nostalgic for the metal bezel and color spectrum bar, not the wood grain. Lol 😊 I'm pre-ordering this!!
I’m nostalgic for that 7800 look. It was my first console, too. They kind of missed the mark trying to recreate here, I think.
Nostalgia isn’t going to get me.
I already got the 2600+.
I don’t like the strip.
I don’t want a wireless controller.
Sorry to say they completely missed me with this one. A 5200+ though, in which I’ve never owned or played, that I’d get excited over.
@SumDumGy yeah I hear ya. I wish the strip was a bit thinner the way I remember it. But I know I specifically skipped the 2600+ hoping this would come out, and I'm glad it did. It's close enough for me.
@@SevenlivesDesigns I feel ya. For me already having the 2600+, this is pointless to me now. Atari might have had better luck with sales had they not opted for 7800 comparability. If they had, I’d consider it.
@SumDumGy yeah definitely. If you got the 2600+ it would seem redundant to get this unless their capability was more accurate. (2600+ for 2600 games and 7800+ being backwards compat). You could sell yours and get this one. Lol But if the aesthetics is not something that bothers ya...then yeah man, totally. You already have what they're selling..just a different shell. 👍
@@SevenlivesDesigns Pretty disappointing for me.
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I still have my OG 7800 I got for $20 at a yard sale over 30yrs ago
Same
Can you use it on a modern TV using some kind of adapter, and if so and you do, how does it look?
@PitfallHarry72 rf out adapter to tv in antenna input on modern tvs...costs $2 ebay single piece item
@@PitfallHarry72 AV modded mine. Have it running into an composite AV switch with other consoles and and that is plugged into my Samsung LCD. Looks very crisp. Gave the same treatment to my 2600 and Colecovision. Next up, Intellivision.
Nice!
Buying this day 1. I hope they give us a 5200+ that plays Atari 8 but and has a trackball. I’d kill for that.
if it was a 5200, I personally would have preordered immediately! Not too excited with the offerings this round, but you never know.
@@jjcollinssame. I just held off on getting a 2800+ and waited for this when it was rumored. I really need a 5200+. My old 4 controller is on its last legs sadly.
Atari should just make a all in 1 *2600 up to Jaguar*
@@aaronhiggs This would be nice, but I imagine making a system with 2 cart ports would probably up the price (not that I wouldn't pay it). Considering an 800XL is basically a 5200 with keys the 2 different size carts always annoyed me.
Although you might run into issues as a lot of Atari 8bit stuff was disk based. You'd need a way to support ATR roms. Like a Max flash style cart or a SIO2SD type device which could also add to the price.
@@joezar33 thst would be a sight to see, some unholy UFO looking thing with cartridge ports all over it!
I mean... I'd BUY it... But still 😉
I was hoping that Atari would release a 5200 system!
There are so many old school games I would love to play such as Pengo,Buck Roger’s Planet of Zoom,Star Trek Simulator,I could go on.
I saw the press release for the 7800 & you shared things with me about it I didn’t know yet!
Thanks 🙏
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On the topic: I had a 7800 with about 50 games. It was hours of fun on those summer days when it was too hot outside. This is cool! Great video!
Wow. Thanks for all the kind words and well wishes. I'm happy to have earned your views! 😁
You had almost the entire library!
Hopefully we get Jaguar+ and Lynx+. Two consoles that deserved more success.🔥
YES! YES! YESSSSSSSS!!!!
Judging by how awesome $50 chinese handhelds are now, they should def be able to design something for Lynx that looks like a Lynx but more of a convenient modern size. I would imagine they could make something pretty awesome for $50=$70 range. The library for Lynx has aged well since it was so arcade focused.
"Rikki and Vikki" needs to be in the lineup too
Plus Popeye
@@rogerphillips642Popeye is a Nintendo IP I think.
I thought it didn't work on the plus
@@atarileaf If they can’t get these homebrews to work on the 7800+ then isn’t a 2600+ in a different case?
Nice! I hope they make the firmware update process for this one more streamlined than it has been for the 2600+.
Agreed!
This is what the retro Atari VCS console should have been! It plays cartridge games and has decent NES style controllers, and the Atari 7800 has been getting more homebrew games, thanks to 8 Bit Guy even helping to publish new 7800 games. Even some fan making a Mega Man game on 7800!
Please Atari get license again for Defender and Stargate and bring these beauties to the 7800+. Best news here is Bounty Bob....
As a ColecoVision guy, I am envious. But I hope this does so well that Atari will eventually do an ST version.
1986 : wow 7800
2024 : wow 7800
nope
1986: wow 7800
2024: what? 7800… Where’s 5200?
@@SumDumGy The 5200 was a flop. Why would they make that?
@@JustinEmlay Because it was actually a great console at its core with beautiful games. It flipped because 1) It’s outrageous size and, 2) faulty controller design. Both issues can be solved with today’s technology. Given a proper chance that console could soar again.
…and the 7800 was pretty much a flop, as well, because it was released in the U.S. too late and with an inferior controller to its main competition, solved in Europe.
@@SumDumGy No it wasn't. Extremely bad controller, no backward compatibility and very little support. It was by far the worst selling console Atari ever put out. There is absolutely nothing the 5200 can do that the 7800 can't. With that said, it made little sense to release the 2600+. Should have just stuck with the 7800+ and left it at that since the 7800 was backwards compatible.
We definitely need a 5200 redo along with modern tech 5200 analog controllers. Its a beautiful system with great games and lots of homebrew titles. A rerelease of the trackball controller would also be greatly welcomed.
Yes, please.
Holding out for Gamestation Go 👍
I saw the trailer and then immediately came over here for your coverage
Thanks very kind, Derek. 😁
I did not puck up a 2600+, but this console may interest me.
I’m nothing but happy about this, very cool that Atari just keeps bringing out new games and as a collector and original 7800 owner even though I already have a 2600+ this is going to look great right beside it. Cheers everybody 🕹
Cool news. That 7800 version of Galaga gets tough quick. Fun games.
I think I'll order the Atari 7800+. But I'm more interested in the carts. These are awesome!
My main concerns are
1. The latency issues with the gamestation Pros wireless controllers dont carry over to the 7800.
2. Compatibility issues with certain legacy games, and homebrews.
You know what. I haven’t had any latency issues , knock on wood, with my GSP controllers.
Can we pre-order from Canada this time?
In 40 years, we should be able to pre-order a Jaguar+
One of the problems with the 5200 is the controller is not fondly remembered in general, even if not considering the durability concerns of the original controllers. If they skip to the Jaguar, the controller is well suitable to play most 5200 games so it seems like a better idea to skip and later down the line release a Jaguar+ with a 5200 adapter and sell reissue 5200 controllers compatible with it separately
This is my favorite console, hands-down. Not because it was the most powerful, or that it had the best suite of games, surely not, but what it did have is character. And the parents liked the fact that I already had 100+ 2600 games already. The genesis of backward compatibility, I love it!
I had an Atari as a kid and BLOWN AWAY that Atari is still around! Just ran across this vid and I'm in! Can't wait for this.
I bet they don't bother with the 5200 because of the keypad controller. That beast has 19 buttons and an analog stick by my recollection. The analog stick is easy these days but your average XBOX style controller has 11 buttons, a Dpad and 2 analog sticks.
I don't think I'll be getting this since the 2600+ already plays the games. BUT, It is cool and I hope people pick it up, I want the company to do well!
I was thinking the same thing; it seems like this is just the 2600+ with a new shell. Which is fine, but I don't think I need two of the same thing.
Completely unnecessary release - just to melk the cow?
I love the original 2600 and never had a 7800... but I have to admit I find the look of this more appealing than the (timeless) 2600+. I always liked that later black/silver/rainbow aesthetic. its just brings back good memories of early 80s tech. I think thats why I'm still so fond of the gamestation pro.
A new trackball would be cool. I think the 7800 will cut into 2600 sales since they are pretty much the same inside. I doubt they will come out with a 5200+, but who knows. The 400 mini already plays 5200 games, although not with original cartridges.
If you want to use a trackball on Xbox PlayStation and Nintendo you could buy one of those DB9 to USB dongles and plug it into one of those systems and buy an original 2600 ambidextrous proline trackball and you should be able to play trackball games on it.
Looking forward to this. I passed on the 2600+ because I still have a 2600 and a Retron 77. I always preferred the stylings of the 7800 and Jr. When I was younger I appreciated when companies came out with more modern looking gear. The Atari 800XL vs the 800, the Commodore 64C vs the 64 and the list goes on...
Somewhat disappointed that the M-Network collection only has 4 games. But at least it has Astroblast. Other than that I'm in for Crystal Quest, Caverns of Mars, and the Epyx collection.
Awesome, Atari. ❤ I'm glad to see at least one game company actually cares about their history, as well as game preservation these days.
I hope the wireless controllers are compatible with the Atari Gamestation Pro, even wired. That would be an awesome experience.
You are a fast gunner John ! I prefer the 7800 + shell over the 2600+ its only personal preference
7800 ET port by HSW in 16 weeks! Now THAT would be a sweet xmas pack-in title!
LET'S GOOOOOO!
we need a Atari lynx remake
Good to see more homebrew games released. Just needs to keep working on compatibility.
The Atari 7800 aesthetic is more my speed. It's nice that the CX78+ is getting re-released as a wireless variant. The new round of carts is interesting as well. I look forward to your future coverage of all the new goodies releasing later this year. 👍👍
I’m curious if the latest Atari VCS wireless USB controllers are compatible with the dongle and/or wirelessly.
This very ambitious. I hope not too many of us old guys will die and destroy the market!
I have my original Atari 2600 , 5200, and 7800 and I just got the 2600 plus I would love to see Atari Jaguar Plus
A modern, HDMI version of the very console that got me into gaming to begin with. I will definitely be picking this up. I always regretted letting the one from my childhood go.
This looked very cool to me at first. But then I wondered what purpose it serves. As far as I can tell, the console itself doesn't do anything different from the 2600+. The only differences are the shell design, and what is included. I checked the page for the wireless CX40, and it says it uses a wireless dongle to connect, which would mean it will work wirelessly on even the original 1977 console.
I think they should've made a dual-slot console that also supports 5200 cartridges in addition, so it wouldn't be redundant. Also, I'd like to see one that runs the games natively, rather than via software emulation. Maybe "system-on-a-chip" (like the Atari Flashback 2), or even that FPGA method people keep talking about.
Still, credit where credit is due, and that's the cartridges. Bringing back old games, and new ones, that run on the original hardware. I wish Nintendo was doing this, too. It's a very cool idea.
The 7800+ is going to be a tough sell though, as the amount of 7800 carts in the wild is a tiny fraction of 2600 carts available. A much smaller install base. Very cool nonetheless. How about an actual 2600 (not emulation) though? That would be great!
I’d love to see a few cut scenes/levels/space stations you can dock with etc. in Bentley Bear and Asteroids respectively.
Wherever it makes sense in these older games.
The wireless CX78+ also resolves the abysmal placement of the original controller's wire being in the upper right instead of centered
It seems too similar to the 2600+ that it makes little difference to me which one to purchase if at all, so hopefully we'll learn more as we get closer to its physical release.
Everything will work on the 2600+, and I already have one of those, but I pre-ordered a 7800+ anyway even though I don't need one.
The games are great, and as someone who lives in Europe, it's going to be cool to not have to pay shipping fees to get indie games here.
Bounty Bob is a significantly enhanced 7800 port of the 5200 game; a new 7800 game in 2024 from ATARI.
Crystal Quest, Bezerk and Frenzy (I like that they're separate personally), and Caverns Of Mars (2600) have all been pre-ordered.
I like that ATARI has included Crystal Quest as a pack-in for the 7800+, and I think that it will help to shift a lot of units for ATARI.
How did you pre-order one in Europe? Pre-ordering doesn’t work for me here in Sweden and I’ve seen others in the E.U. saying the same thing.
As mentioned on AA, this new system has the latest firmware. I’m disappointed that the 2600+ is not getting the official firmware update, yet. A year now, waiting. I can’t take the risk and buy these games if they don’t work on the original 1.0 version, since I am not going to jump thru hoops to update my 2600+ until I get an official release. Can you ask if any/all the games work on 1.0? I know it says on the website what systems but what firmware? Thanks.
Berzerk came with Frenzy on the AtariAge version. It's kind of annoying they're separating them into two 7800 carts.
I was thinking the same thing, but I’m glad they are available to the masses again.
Greed. Hence 21st century new game prices ($30 for 40 year old games?) for ANCIENT games.
Adding wireless is a great feature. Sadly, they still do not sell through Amazon Brazil yet 😞
Wow, didn’t see this coming. Thanks for the update.
According to Atari’s twitter, seems to be minor memory differences and the cartridge slot has been improved. I am bummed Bentley Bear is just a cart in a sleeve, rather have a boxed copy. But Atari is doing retro goodness better than most. Kudos to them! 🔥
I preordered and added Bounty Bob Strikes Back to the order! It’s gonna be a good winter!!
I wasn't expecting a sequel to Crystal Castles! *I WANT IT IN A ROM!*
Somewhere in a box either inside my parents house or a shed lies my original 2600 and 7800. I've asked my dad to try to find it but the best he could do was the 2 7800 controllers. I've been using them with my 2600+, but I will most likely be picking up the 7200+ if just for the aesthetic. As I've said elsewhere, it wasn't my first console, but the first of the Console wars. I still maintain that the nostaligia with the 2600 is more directly the games and indirectly the 2600, whereas the 7800 it's about the console itself. That defined you as an "Atari Guy" (or gal) over Intellivision/colecovision/etc.
While this is cool. I have to ask what the gain is here. Other than wireless controllers, I see nothing new here. seems like they made two units that do the same thing.
Gives collectors choice. Also per Atari it has some updated internals.
This has the new updated firmware. They were going to release something this year. It was a choice of this or rerelease the 2600+
Hdmi is a big jump that most people tend forget about
@@rubenmejia4881The 2600+ has HDMI already though.
Wish *Sega* did the same as Atari , and embrace people Homebrew made physical carts for the *Genesis*
The Atari 7800 had so much potential to even have done better with the games they created. It was actually a incredible gaming device that suffered a few things that they should of knowing better. But the few games they had were excellent for its time. I will dig in to see what they have done and will probably purchase! I always have thought even the name Atari was a excellent name they came up with! Very cool!
Good luck in getting your order. I'm still waiting on orders from last year from Atari.
@@seanyoungquist3130 I would suggest anyone order it from anyone other than atari. It took me almost a year to receive something I ordered even when the item said it was in stock.
oof, sorry you have been waiting so long
Ordered mine earlier. I'm also super happy with the new carts on sale. One that is (understandably) overlooked is the 2600 Realsports collection. For $30 it's a great deal.
Totally agree!
I know the whole point of these + consoles is to be able to play the actual carts on modern TV's in HD but they all don't work. I really wish they would add a card slot like the Retron 77 has. Collectors and die-hards are still going to buy old and new games to play on the + consoles so I don't think it would hurt these new consoles as far as sales goes.
I kind of wish they'd sell some sort of wireless dongle for the 2600+ for those that don't see that capability as enough to justify spending $130 on a whole other console. But, I'll probably buy a 7800+ anyway... I don't normally collect "modern" retro-inspired stuff but I'm starting to want to do that with the new Atari lineup, just because of how much care and attention to detail they're putting into these things. I want all those games too. We'll see how many I can afford at the time of release (or how many show up as Christmas presents!)
Do Champ games modern releases still not work on the 2600+? I preordered the big bundle this time (I didn't bite on the 2600+). I would like to think the purchase of AA is leading to this homebrew titles getting pretty official now! Nice to see Bob D's work getting out there more!
I'm stoked about those wireless controllers! I use wireless for my retro setup, and I've been hoping for a while that with all these new hardware releases, Atari would eventually bring out wireless controllers. Now, its finally happening!
The Atari 7800 is getting a second chance, and I'm all for it. We saw a bit of that with Atari with the small selection of games and the historical context of the console as a competitor to the NES. Hopefully, with the 7800+, more people will show interest in the console's library of games.
What I find interesting is that the 2600+ plays 2600 and 7800 cartridges through emulation. People are nostalgic for the shape and wood grain style of the 2600, but I know there are people who are nostalgic for the 7800 as well. It makes me wonder if this is a similar concept to the 2600+. Of course the appeal to the 7800+ is wireless connectivity which is great! I had to look back on the 2600+ specs to see if that was there since I don’t own one.
My wife will be pleased since she’s such a fan of the Crystal Castles game that she’ll love this Crystal Quest as well.
Of course there are other M Network games I would want a release for that I enjoy but playing Astroblast is amazing and 7 Real Sports games in one? Granted I’m not a sports video game player, but I’ll have fun with that one too!
Aside from the wireless support this is very much a 2600+ internally right? it seems like it just in a new shell.
So I would hope these new carts all work with the 2600+ and maybe another update to help support more games.
They should just remake 5200 games for the 7800+. Creating a 5200+ console I feel would be a waste of money.
I'd love to see an Atari Jaguar +
The wireless controller option is the big reason to get this. Also gives the option if you prefer the 7800 look. Good that they went for the European controller instead of the mess that the US 7800 controller was.
Can you imagine a 5200+ console with controllers that ACTUALLY work? Big opportunity to fix all the reliability issues that the 5200 conrollers are known for - They'd sell THOUSANDS of those controllers!
Serious question though - aside from the wireless option, what does this bring to the table that the 2600+ didn't? Did I miss something? I can see this as an option for anyone interested who didn't buy a 2600+, but I can't see anyone double-dipping on this.
I enjoy the 7800 enclosure more than the 2600. Can’t wait to rock one in my living room.
I'm not too interested, but those adapters and wireless controllers makes me hopeful that some day we will have official Atari wireless USB paddles (either natively or with dongles) without needing to make welding and hot glue messes with original Atari paddles, mouses, potentiometers/rotary encoders, arduino micro boards, etc. Those are fun projects, but it's quite amazing we still need to do that to play warlords or breakout (either for Atari or arcade emulation).
Want so so much but PLEASE have a native release in Japan to avoid import duties😭
Certainly, we can hope for a Jaguar+ in the future.🤗
This is definitely exciting but I actually brought an Atari 7800 at my local retro game store two days ago so I'm not sure if I'll get it or not. Iam very interested in the D pad and games coming for it. I would've definitely preferred an Atari 5200+
4:58 I once thought the advertised "Scraper Caper" (COMPUTE! magazine ad) was intended as a sequel to "Miner 2049er". In recent years, I ran into the story that it never got released, possibly classifying it as vaporware.
Wow, thank you for that wonderful rabbit hole! I'd never heard of Scraper Caper, and just returned to this comment after reading up a bit and seeing the old ads. Miner is one of my all-time favorite from the Atari 8-bit days, and I didn't remember reading about the proposed sequel. 😁
I gotta say this is perplexing. 🤷♂️ Besides the 7800 housing what is the point since the 2600+ can also play 7800 carts? And will the problem of many European PAL 7800 carts not working on the 2600+ be fixed with the 7800+? I live in Sweden so 90% of my 7800 carts are of the EU PAL variety.
I am happy about the M Network Collection and Frenzy carts though!
Yes! Great news Jon! I also received the news via email from Atari, but unfortunately they don't ship to Europe, for the moment I can't pre-order... i'm very sorry for this...
I hear you. I live in Greece.
It's getting a European release through the same retailers as the 2600+. It's been confirmed on the Atari Age forums.
I am in UK as well, have saved items to my wishlist on Amazon, as shows pic & info, but stating currently unavailable😢
@@user-ub6bw1pr7u Me too, the same. They write me the boundle will be available through Amazon, third quarter, in Europe 😢😭
Same thoughts as others Jon
If the wireless CX-78 works on my 2600+ , I'd do that and a few games. But unless the guts of this are beefed up beyond the 2600+ seems kind of useless. I'm still waiting for word of the full firmware update. And someone to do a better tutorial on exactly how to do that, so I can play my 7800 Rampage.
As usual, excellent video!!!!!
Looks like the new wireless controllers will work on the 2600+.
It's awesome Atari is doing this for fans who own retro cartridges. Hopefully Nintendo will take notice and do an NES+/SNES+ that takes old carts too. Fingers crossed!
Interesting news. For me personally, I'm not interested in the 7800 system as I own an original, and the 2600+. Im sure it's for people who want the 80s look (7800), although the wireless controllers could be cool, I just bought 2 7800 controllers that they just released...and they were a hassle to get here as it is, plus with all the games they just released that I also preordered last round. Possibly only interested in frenzy and berzerk this round. You are absolutely 100% correct when you said they are using their newly acquired acquisitions, as those home brews obviously came from the atariage buy.
I'm excited for this, but will it have FULL compatibility with all of the more advanced homebrew games, like Hokey sound, and Champ games releases?
I'd expect it to have the same compatibility as the 2600+.
The 7800+ seems like more of the same. I most excited about the wireless controllers. I just wish I knew about them before buying two wired cx78+ controllers. Makes plunking down another $35 hard to do.
Too similar and I’m running low on space for similar units. I may consider it if can recognize advanced 2600 Champ Games, etc., better in house sound chip for future home brews or maybe next year when it is on sale. I am on board with a 5200+ that can recognize my AtariMax Multicart. I do appreciate all the new retro products though.
I doubt we'll see a 5200+ because of the analogue controller. Plus, they skipped it in going from the 2600 to the 7800. It would be cool though.
The console itself seems a bit unnecessary when the 2600+ supports the same cartridges, but screw it, I'm still getting it. 😀
I was hoping for a 7800 Flashback for years, that’s how I got the Atari GPS.
I had the 7800 and I love this.
Awesome! Now if only we could get a Jaguar+…
I am interested in the wireless controllers more than anything. A trackball would be like the next thing i would really like to have. Can it play the Harmony cart by chance? I would love to know.
Sucks they're sticking to homebrews. The last batch, I picked up Fatal Run because I already own Ninja Golf. I was hoping for more re-releases, maybe Mean 18 Golf, Alien Brigade, or Planet Smashers.
Look at that, you didn't need news stories for videos, but you got news stories for videos. Great breakdown. I'm wondering if we can use the wireless controllers with the 400 Mini or the VCS800!
Love this news thank you. Interested to hear how that gamepad plays with the games. Also looking forward to Intellivision updates down the road when Atari makes them available.
I tried out the CX-78+ wired when it came out earlier this year: th-cam.com/video/64dHiDhw9G0/w-d-xo.html
It's gotta just be a matter of time for an Intellivision+, right? 😁
We need the 5200+ and I can’t wait for the 7800+ I’ve my 2600+ not played it yet though but once I complete my collection then I can test them out.
Another great video!
Just like with the 2600+, part of me is really tempted by this. If it allowed support for a multi-cart, and if Champ Games were able to run on it, I'd be sure to buy it! Also, I'd be broke because I'd want to buy every game by Champ Games. They all look very cool!
As a younger person who recently has gotten into Atari and have been playing the ps4 flashback classics, would it be wiser to purchase this 7800+ or the 2600+ of last year? I know you explained the differences in the video, which frankly aren't that many, but as a personal preference which would you purchase as a first time buyer?
Just get the one that you like the best. I grew up with a 7800 , so I’m getting that.
Wow! I've been waffling on buying one of these new Atari consoles. Now another to consider! May be leaning toward the 7800+.
It feels like this does everything the 2600+ does and more. Kind of a no-brainer if you don't care what the outside shell looks like. 😉
The controllers and games interest me.
Although very similar to the 2600+, I am really happy to see 7800 getting some love. This was my first console growing up and even though I probably will not purchase since I already have the aforementioned 2600+. I probably will be looking into the carts available since 7800 is a little harder to find and this expands the library of a system that was robbed of it's true potential too soon
I prefer this over the 2600+. I still probably won't get it. I know I prefer playing titles on collections such as Atari 50 on modern consoles and emulation on the pc. It would end up being a box on the shelf covered in dust.