Every truck driver cleaned their sideboards while they pulled their tarps over the load. There wasn't a single windshield complaint the whole summer. As for the half bucket idea, this was a production environment and that would have gotten me yelled at very quickly. While you might think a 650 is overkill, most of the summer I was using a Komatsu 800 to load the same trucks. It cut about 15-30 seconds off my load time. The people paying the bills decide how it works.
In fact Calgary/Red Deer/ Edmonton do indeed have different rules. Calgary demands cleanout areas for the tires on every truck, and silt fence around almost every square inch of a job. Red Deer does not do any of that. As for trucks leaving sites in Red Deer, they do not need control, however sometimes we use flag people just so our trucks don't get stopped up. Is it "normal" to load with a 650/800? no. But normally you aren't truck hauling 300,000+ m3 from 3 different borrows to one jobsite.
First off, they have to clean the side boards every single time, even if there is nothing on them. Second. it's a huge bucket where, to keep it down to only 2 buckets and low cycle times, you can't avoid putting a little bit on the sides every single time. Yes I did try to keep it to a minimum. And when the 800 was going, it was steady the whole day. If you can load as much as an 800 can in one day, with a 350, this I gotta see.
I don't know where you come from, but out here, we have to make sure each axle is at legal limits. so the trucks tell me if I'm loading one axle too heavy over the others.
@vantagetes It does have more than enough power to use a larger bucket. I'm not 100% if this is the same size as the rest of the 600's or not. Though most of the time we have really wet heavy clay, so a larger bucket might not be worth it. Only thing we have that I know has a larger bucket is the Komatsu 800. Also this 650 was bought at 1000 hours last winter, might just be what it came with.
8 yard buckets make it soo easy to Cruz three major materials ..hay what r u guys getting for pay up that way ,down here in the lower 48 we get $35/$45 per hour 🤙🤙🤙
@@zabeemohamadi5547 Roughly yes. Because I am not putting 2 100% full buckets in the front, it is not exact. But the range of the different trucks is 21-35 tonnes. Depending on the size.
My comment is 10 years late but this is awesome video awesome, I like the camera angle and seeing the gravel being loaded, how many tons were loaded? Keep up the good work
We moved roughly 230,000 m3 (about 375,000 tonnes) of clay that summer. It was quite the project. I wish I could say the road was paved, but that would be a lie! It's still just dirt to this day! (ready for a bridge over the river). And thanks
Hahahahaha actually I have my own iron and it makes me money. I grew up in the office of a construction company which is why I know office shit as well. Not only do we bulk dirt we stay behind and clean our sites up with bulking iron. You're correct 66st has no road ban on it in the spring, but it's still within city limits so explain to me oh wise one why we didn't need traffic control on a paved city road for so many trucks?
I'm guessing you are used to trucks in Europe? This is the normal style here. I believe the main difference is because our roads are normally much bigger, they don't have to make the trucks so tiny. Longer wheelbases allow for heavier loads. They are probably cheaper too.
1 minute to 1:30 load times. 12-13 trucks, 25 minute haul round trip including loading. (that gives 1:50 per truck when you included 'pulling forward into position') And there is no such thing as a haul license.
and i know this is your 1st year your loadn with a 650 and your heapn your buckets makn a frikn mess your the guy that owes me a new windshield . plus look at the trucks you load them all the same and there all diffrent axle setups like i said start from front to back
And the Hoe operators only break time is when there are no trucks left to load! This was a busy summer (and so long ago now!) I remember it fondly, but I wouldn't want to do it again.
You shouldn’t have to clean up that over spill if you loaded your trucks right, they are highway trucks not rigid or art’s tossing dirt off the side boards shaking the whole truck, you can be smooth clean and faster just saying
As I said before. Legal loads are based on weight, not size of the load. They let me know if I'm loading them too light or too heavy throughout the day. This is heavy clay so I couldn't fill them up.
Great spelling, nice to see you take the time to insult on every comment you make. I think you might be watching this video in reverse or something. I'm fairly sure I see myself loading from front to back. Then again, I might be wrong. As for you doing this longer than me, well I don't know how old you are, and you don't have any videos of your own work. So I guess I will just let you insult me and let everyone else judge for themselves.
This is a long time ago, but when a truck is loaded for public roads, it must not be overweight or the driver is fined. So they weigh the trucks empty and loaded. You want to be less than 100kg under their max allowable load. But not over at all. So I had to be very very careful not to overload them. That is why you see the last bucket is not 'full' on some of them. The front box got 1.75 buckets, a "pup" got 2 full ones. The "wagons" got 2.75 buckets, and the "quad wagons" got 4 full buckets. (none in this video). So no, there was no underloading in this video at all.
Edmonton has no "haul license", using flaggers is generally only on busy streets. I dug a pond on 66st 3yrs ago with a 450 and 28 end dumps and we had no traffic control. Dude you've made your thousand dollar challenge a couple times now. Why don't you go back to K300 or running that mouth of yours and leave the real operating to the men.
Yeah I do work with women, its pretty fuckin awesome. Yeah we must not have any skill, one of us is a foreman, one of us is a supervisor and owns his own company. What exactly are you again? Throw up a video or two of your own if you're so fucking amazing.
hows this story gettn bettr ?? and like i said i was forman last year guna do mainline this year what part didnt u understand ? and yea we need another mainliner whats hard 2 believe about that ?
no such thing as haul license hey actually there is and it has to do with how many trucks you have coming in and out of your site at a certain number you need to hire flag people things like that and i was sure the number was 10 but ... but ill find the actual regulation here 4ya
All but one was above the side boards and dirt all over the rails the tongue back gate etc ...... the leveling was pretty lazy looking..... dribbling all over my equipment would piss me off your destroying lights paint and plenty of other parts .... semi smooth operation but these drivers didn't complain because they are not the owners obviously.... and they never clean the crap off that you dribble more lazy people .... I would tell you stop dribbling because the time I spend cleaning f up that crap Costs me time and damages my truck.... if it's above the rails I'll be right back and if you can't hurry it right the plant foreman will hear it.... if my lights get broke your boss will hearthat too and I'll filefilea claim....as a loader OP I avoid dribbling and if I leave anything on the truck I tell the driver by radio.... if no radio i leave word at the gate/scale that I'll honk 3 times if they need to clean before hitting the road.... they know that I used to drive and that I know they don't need tickets for over the sides or crap falling off ..... take pride In what you do all of it and never hey lazy .... better to load a couple trucks less each day and not break lights and excess wear and to not have rocks falling and causing accidents that could have been avoided..... obviously you have never worked on a road crew and had crap fall off trucks going thru your work zone hitting workers .... those rocks that break windshields and head lights also crack the skulls of adults and children.... so anyone that complains about this comment take your child for a walk along a highway that's leaving a gravel plant....
1) They stopped at the exit of the job to put up their tarps and clean off the boards. 2) This is a high production environment, the Hoe's time is worth more than the truckers who have to stop and cheak/clean every single time regardless. 3) Leveling was only done enough so they could get tarps overtop. 4) There wasn't a single broken light the entire summer.
even more impressive would be trucks steady non stop at the speed the 800 loads them cuz if you do the math on atleast 20 -30 min round trips and them being loaded in 30seconds geez where u get 30 plus trucks and haul license 4that hmmm...... any way its possible but i call bullshit theres always wait time when loadn! who s trucks??been on really big jobs and hardly ever get more than 15 trucks usually 10 jus never seen any company use monsters to load be hard to make any cash
wheres these basement videos ??? mainline??? all i ever seen is some lacky loadn trucks and some clown tryn to run trackloader r pushn snow . so if your good i got a mainline seat here for ya that i know pays more than u make now where u diggn ?? or i guess thats loadn for you as thats your specialty cause loadn trucks is where the moneys at right ...
starters the truck drivers shouldnt have to clean there trailers and truly if you knew this stuff good enough youd know it would be hard to make lots of money using million dollar machine to load trucks its complete over kill and would only use that if i had such poor ops that it was needd to keep up you wana make up time hire another truck a lot cheaper ... really anything over 350 loadn trucks is gettn silly
I don't know where you come from, but out here, we have to make sure each axle is at legal limits. so the trucks tell me if I'm loading one axle too heavy over the others.
A good loader operator makes for a happy trucker. Team work makes the job go smoooooooooooootttthhheerrr.
your a good operator, I know how hard it is to make everyone happy, most that complain are jealous.
Every truck driver cleaned their sideboards while they pulled their tarps over the load. There wasn't a single windshield complaint the whole summer. As for the half bucket idea, this was a production environment and that would have gotten me yelled at very quickly.
While you might think a 650 is overkill, most of the summer I was using a Komatsu 800 to load the same trucks. It cut about 15-30 seconds off my load time. The people paying the bills decide how it works.
Good, clean loading; consistent. Some operators just dont get it, but not the case here. Good job!
Thanks. It's been almost 3 years since I ran anything, so I wonder how long it would take to get back to this level!
tobogganing
Not much
It's probably not easy loading such little truck and pups with a machine that size. But dang, 2 buckets per truck, that's some quick loading!
In fact Calgary/Red Deer/ Edmonton do indeed have different rules. Calgary demands cleanout areas for the tires on every truck, and silt fence around almost every square inch of a job. Red Deer does not do any of that. As for trucks leaving sites in Red Deer, they do not need control, however sometimes we use flag people just so our trucks don't get stopped up. Is it "normal" to load with a 650/800? no. But normally you aren't truck hauling 300,000+ m3 from 3 different borrows to one jobsite.
First off, they have to clean the side boards every single time, even if there is nothing on them. Second. it's a huge bucket where, to keep it down to only 2 buckets and low cycle times, you can't avoid putting a little bit on the sides every single time. Yes I did try to keep it to a minimum. And when the 800 was going, it was steady the whole day. If you can load as much as an 800 can in one day, with a 350, this I gotta see.
That looks like a fun job to do
It is a lot of fun to do. I miss running equipment, but it does make for some long days!
That is a big hungry bucket !!
I don't know where you come from, but out here, we have to make sure each axle is at legal limits. so the trucks tell me if I'm loading one axle too heavy over the others.
Nice work sir!
@vantagetes It does have more than enough power to use a larger bucket. I'm not 100% if this is the same size as the rest of the 600's or not. Though most of the time we have really wet heavy clay, so a larger bucket might not be worth it. Only thing we have that I know has a larger bucket is the Komatsu 800. Also this 650 was bought at 1000 hours last winter, might just be what it came with.
You doing clean up is just as interesting to watch as loading.
Thanks! Going to have to get some more videos going this year now that I'm back with this company again.
A couple of weeks is all. Got out of dumptrucking for 3 yrs and back in the groove took about 2 weeks
fantastic job
You a good smooth operator.
That's how you getter done!😎👍🇺🇸
8 yard buckets make it soo easy to Cruz three major materials ..hay what r u guys getting for pay up that way ,down here in the lower 48 we get $35/$45 per hour 🤙🤙🤙
It’s no 6015B bucket but, it’ll get the job done!
your beautiful work is admirable zabee from Iran, excuse me my buddy, how much is the capacity of each bucket?
This is a 5.5 cubic meter bucket
Oh my God, it means that every bucket is about 8 till 10 tons
@@Millsy.g so we conclude that each truck load is about twenty five tons
Excuse me my buddy,are John Deere and Kobelco American company?
@@zabeemohamadi5547 Roughly yes. Because I am not putting 2 100% full buckets in the front, it is not exact. But the range of the different trucks is 21-35 tonnes. Depending on the size.
My comment is 10 years late but this is awesome video awesome, I like the camera angle and seeing the gravel being loaded, how many tons were loaded? Keep up the good work
We moved roughly 230,000 m3 (about 375,000 tonnes) of clay that summer. It was quite the project. I wish I could say the road was paved, but that would be a lie! It's still just dirt to this day! (ready for a bridge over the river). And thanks
Drivers respect skill...time is money.
Hahahahaha actually I have my own iron and it makes me money. I grew up in the office of a construction company which is why I know office shit as well. Not only do we bulk dirt we stay behind and clean our sites up with bulking iron. You're correct 66st has no road ban on it in the spring, but it's still within city limits so explain to me oh wise one why we didn't need traffic control on a paved city road for so many trucks?
Awesome ! Thanks for sharing ;-)
What is the total weight in metric tonnes or pounds, on public roads ?
Thanks.
Maybe for your area. Find a regulation for central Alberta then we'll talk.
Kinda small bucket for a 650 isnt it?
Why do the dump boxes on these trucks sit so far back from the cab of the truck?
I'm guessing you are used to trucks in Europe? This is the normal style here. I believe the main difference is because our roads are normally much bigger, they don't have to make the trucks so tiny. Longer wheelbases allow for heavier loads. They are probably cheaper too.
I noticed that too ! we're not used to such sizes over here in Europe. hahaha
No stress on the machine, that's what you hire....
Great video...
BEEN THERE . DONE THAT
Great! Enough said!
Mud is adhesived to the bottom of the bucket
now thats nice soil
yea like puttn some more weight to front of trailer for starters
1 minute to 1:30 load times. 12-13 trucks, 25 minute haul round trip including loading. (that gives 1:50 per truck when you included 'pulling forward into position') And there is no such thing as a haul license.
training training training, first Time operating is hard
i wonder what a full bucket weighs. Prob 500kg
A full bucket is over 7,000kg of material
@@Millsy.g wow!
Ton a yard
I really wish I could have some moist dirt delivered to my house 80 tons
Wow. I hadn't noticed all the comments you were replying to him with. He sure talks a lot doesn't he.
The bigger the bucket the more trucks you can load which means more money
and i know this is your 1st year your loadn with a 650 and your heapn your buckets makn a frikn mess your the guy that owes me a new windshield . plus look at the trucks you load them all the same and there all diffrent axle setups like i said start from front to back
How heavy is one scoop?
Roughly 8,000-9,000kg for a full bucket.
You axle weight perfectly!
nice video of that :) and nice looking machines :)
As a truck driver, there is no way I would know how much do they load into my truck. A lot of this quarry pits cheat on their customers
Pro in progress.
Wheres the gravel?
Says you....
outstanding operator!
A dump truck drivers only break time ,, "Being loaded" Have to hope that there's a few trucks ahead of you.
And the Hoe operators only break time is when there are no trucks left to load! This was a busy summer (and so long ago now!) I remember it fondly, but I wouldn't want to do it again.
That's for sure. LOL. My last job we only had 4 trucks & we loaded ourselves
You shouldn’t have to clean up that over spill if you loaded your trucks right, they are highway trucks not rigid or art’s tossing dirt off the side boards shaking the whole truck, you can be smooth clean and faster just saying
I see you've never loaded gravel trucks with a 650 or 800 sized machine in heavy clay. Just saying.
you need to fill them up some more bro
As I said before. Legal loads are based on weight, not size of the load. They let me know if I'm loading them too light or too heavy throughout the day. This is heavy clay so I couldn't fill them up.
Bad bady I wish I was a badass like you
Great spelling, nice to see you take the time to insult on every comment you make. I think you might be watching this video in reverse or something. I'm fairly sure I see myself loading from front to back. Then again, I might be wrong. As for you doing this longer than me, well I don't know how old you are, and you don't have any videos of your own work. So I guess I will just let you insult me and let everyone else judge for themselves.
People like "Dirt King" is why some youtube memebers perfer not to have comments on their videos.
Мужик,у тебя совесть не чешется столько грузить?
"Dirt King" thinks he knows everything... mr know it all!!!!
Under loading!!!
This is a long time ago, but when a truck is loaded for public roads, it must not be overweight or the driver is fined. So they weigh the trucks empty and loaded. You want to be less than 100kg under their max allowable load. But not over at all. So I had to be very very careful not to overload them. That is why you see the last bucket is not 'full' on some of them. The front box got 1.75 buckets, a "pup" got 2 full ones. The "wagons" got 2.75 buckets, and the "quad wagons" got 4 full buckets. (none in this video). So no, there was no underloading in this video at all.
@@Millsy.g don't have to explain your self to anyone on here you know what your how much you can load. Your neck is on the line not his
is that a 5 yard bucket?
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Les camions sont à leur poids maximum légal.
Edmonton has no "haul license", using flaggers is generally only on busy streets. I dug a pond on 66st 3yrs ago with a 450 and 28 end dumps and we had no traffic control. Dude you've made your thousand dollar challenge a couple times now. Why don't you go back to K300 or running that mouth of yours and leave the real operating to the men.
vantagetes who are you talking to
Yeah I do work with women, its pretty fuckin awesome. Yeah we must not have any skill, one of us is a foreman, one of us is a supervisor and owns his own company. What exactly are you again? Throw up a video or two of your own if you're so fucking amazing.
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nope bigger bucket
บลูส์ใน
I really feel sorry for the guys that have to work with dirt king everyday,
Sidrcride ,,,,why we love what we do & when you love what you do it’s not a day at work at all 🤙
@@chriscamgemi368 I think you miss read that he was talking about working with dirt princess
hows this story gettn bettr ?? and like i said i was forman last year guna do mainline this year what part didnt u understand ? and yea we need another mainliner whats hard 2 believe about that ?
small bucket?? wouldnt want any bigger this is a 650 its already over kill for loadn trucks
Should drink beer while loading trucks
no such thing as haul license hey actually there is and it has to do with how many trucks you have coming in and out of your site at a certain number you need to hire flag people things like that and i was sure the number was 10 but ... but ill find the actual regulation here 4ya
that isn't gravel it looks like dirt
He never said he was loading them with gravel...
The title said "loading gravel truck." Key word is truck.
All but one was above the side boards and dirt all over the rails the tongue back gate etc ...... the leveling was pretty lazy looking..... dribbling all over my equipment would piss me off your destroying lights paint and plenty of other parts .... semi smooth operation but these drivers didn't complain because they are not the owners obviously.... and they never clean the crap off that you dribble more lazy people .... I would tell you stop dribbling because the time I spend cleaning f up that crap Costs me time and damages my truck.... if it's above the rails I'll be right back and if you can't hurry it right the plant foreman will hear it.... if my lights get broke your boss will hearthat too and I'll filefilea claim....as a loader OP I avoid dribbling and if I leave anything on the truck I tell the driver by radio.... if no radio i leave word at the gate/scale that I'll honk 3 times if they need to clean before hitting the road.... they know that I used to drive and that I know they don't need tickets for over the sides or crap falling off ..... take pride In what you do all of it and never hey lazy .... better to load a couple trucks less each day and not break lights and excess wear and to not have rocks falling and causing accidents that could have been avoided..... obviously you have never worked on a road crew and had crap fall off trucks going thru your work zone hitting workers .... those rocks that break windshields and head lights also crack the skulls of adults and children.... so anyone that complains about this comment take your child for a walk along a highway that's leaving a gravel plant....
1) They stopped at the exit of the job to put up their tarps and clean off the boards. 2) This is a high production environment, the Hoe's time is worth more than the truckers who have to stop and cheak/clean every single time regardless. 3) Leveling was only done enough so they could get tarps overtop. 4) There wasn't a single broken light the entire summer.
Also, if dirt isn't rolling off the side of the bucket, it's not a full bucket.
even more impressive would be trucks steady non stop at the speed the 800 loads them cuz if you do the math on atleast 20 -30 min round trips and them being loaded in 30seconds geez where u get 30 plus trucks and haul license 4that hmmm...... any way its possible but i call bullshit theres always wait time when loadn! who s trucks??been on really big jobs and hardly ever get more than 15 trucks usually 10 jus never seen any company use monsters to load be hard to make any cash
wheres these basement videos ??? mainline??? all i ever seen is some lacky loadn trucks and some clown tryn to run trackloader r pushn snow . so if your good i got a mainline seat here for ya that i know pays more than u make now where u diggn ?? or i guess thats loadn for you as thats your specialty cause loadn trucks is where the moneys at right ...
starters the truck drivers shouldnt have to clean there trailers and truly if you knew this stuff good enough youd know it would be hard to make lots of money using million dollar machine to load trucks its complete over kill and would only use that if i had such poor ops that it was needd to keep up you wana make up time hire another truck a lot cheaper ... really anything over 350 loadn trucks is gettn silly
I don't know where you come from, but out here, we have to make sure each axle is at legal limits. so the trucks tell me if I'm loading one axle too heavy over the others.