@@ananovo8662 Not around Wichita Falls. We had 100° days for a week at a time on more than one occasion, and only one or two days under 90° all summer. It's late October and we're still getting 90° plus days...
I live in Phoenix and I ride my bike to and from work every day, even on days in the summer when they are issuing heat warnings. My daily ride to and from work altogether is about 16 miles, but on the weekends, I'll do even more. You just have to make sure that you are carrying lots of water and don't have anything heavy in your stomach.
I used to race MX, and that was incredibly brutal in the summer. With bicycle racing, naturally after i stopped, i figured out a great trick: soak your jersey in ice water before your ride. Yes, it will feel too cold at first, and modern jerseys dry out quickly, but it really helps to keep your core temp down. The other thing to try in the middle of a hot ride is to stop and rinse your jersey under cold water. It helps a lot.
Great video! I happen to HATE riding in heat. I live in SoCal and hit it first thing in the morning -- preferably a 7am departure. But I also spend 6 months west of Austin, Texas, and in late spring, there is only so much you can do to escape the heat. My problem riding in Texas in late spring is that my rides are far away from any gas stations on rural roads. So planning my hydration and caloric intake is absolutely critical. A spare water bottle, and some gels (or Pop Tarts -- thanks Chris) help me navigate those longer rides in the back country.
@@thart6103 I was a bike messenger in San Francisco during the mid 1980's. Not exactly hot there. My heat stroke was in lake Tahoe on a mountain it was around 105 degrees. Helicopter evac.
@thart6103 I have felt more OK in heat than other people over 20 years of riding. I currently live in a very hot/humid area and have been acclimated to the heat quite well. Then.... ONE DAY, I rode too hot for too long and went over some limit which I couldn't even feel / recognize that day. Then I was sick for 5 days. The Next long and hot ride (not even all that long), i got sick again. Now I feel better, but i am scared of riding when it's really hot. Also, I feel like I am also physically more uncomfortable riding in heat. I hope it's not permanent, but it seems like it could be. It is definitely possible to acclimate, and to do a lot in heat. Problem is, there is also a limit to what you can withstand , and it is very difficult to distinguish when you are crossing that limit.
I'm glad this info is getting out. I've been on the trainer in a hoodie for years, now. While probably not totally ideal, I've always found it better than sitting with a fan in the AC
I did the Gravel World in Lincoln NE this summer. It was 38 Celsius and i suffered from heat exhaustion, I was vomiting. Took me 3 weeks to recover. I'm from Canada and very rarely train in anything over 25 Celsius.
I love to ride in the heat. I would ride in 100+ in San Jose as much as I could. My wife would ask every time, "What! It's too hot out there!". However, after serveral months of excessive travel for work, my fitness would drop of a lot. I would take it really slow (I pretty much had to) and drink tons of water along the way. Totally agree Chris; heat training works for me.
In training in heat, you need to adjust intensity too, which might be good for limiting intense workouts. Too much intensity during a volume block might be detrimental…
As a person who spent most of his adult life in tropical heat, and a minor part in cold climates, I completely agree with you. One suggestion though, depending on the level of fitness, people should start with shorter sessions of heat training; there is no point in starting with a full hour sessions in those severe temperatures. The same goes for riders who have been training in mild climates, including high altitude training, they have to gradually expand the time training in extreme heat. But all those considerations should be included in an adequate training schedule.
Great info Chris, and I completely agree. I was a hiking / mt. guide in the Palm Springs area for 30 yrs., and regularly trained on my road bike in this type of weather, (at times in 110), but I had the advantage of very dry climate, (30% or less, at times much less), and usually windy. I've seen many of my past clients who were fit, but not heat adapted, who suffered if they didn't reduce their intensity. Hiking, (always w elevation gains), was tougher with less air moving over your body. Now living in Orange county, ca., where it rarely climbs over 100, I still always carry a camelbak pack which allows me to stay hydrated for hrs. I got to the point where the heat rarely bothered me, but one must be keen to closely monitor yourself.
I hope you're making videos over the winter period bud, just talk about anything related to cycling to keep the cold turkey at bay, tell us stories from your period, and how things have changed etc, anything, 👍🖖🙂
Agree. After moving to the Philippines in 2017, I ride, train and race (sometimes) in the heat. In the dry season here (Dec-May) it is normal to see temps of over 90 by 9am and over 100 by 10am with the sun straight up in the sky (no shade). Luckily, those temps usually mean almost zero wind here. After 11 am my Garmin or Wahoo will register temps over 110 degrees on hot days. I've learned to get ahead on hydration and to plan long rides to finish by noon. Typical weight loss is 5 lbs on a 4 hr ride (175lb rider) with intake of 3-4 liters. On occasions where I miscalculated, I've seen speed and power drop off to almost nothing in the final hour of a 7 hour ride. Heat training helps acclimatize, and helps in performance if you head back to cooler temps when looking to realize those performance gains. But always training and racing in the heat month after month can really zap your body and lead to exhaustion quickly. Still, I would pick hot over cold any day. If I could choose the perfect temps to ride in year round it would 60-65 degrees, low humidity and no wind - but that place exists in my cycling dreams.
I live in the Phoenix Valley and regularly ride in the heat or did when I was 30-40 years younger. One year it got over 120 degrees and I rode 5 miles to work in the morning and at noon I went for a casual around the block with very high temps, close to or over 120 as the high for the day was 121 or so. One other time at 115 degrees I commuted 45 miles . I was about 30-35 and a very fit commuter. You have to build up slowly to long distance and drink at least 3 water bottles and hour.
I worked on this this summer in and I'm in LA area. I just 60-90 min rides endurance rides were perfect for this. Got a lot easier after a couple weeks and found myself extending it out to 2-2.5 hrs some days at around 100 or so degrees. Felt great. I got a sinus infection for 5 or 6 weeks in August and didn't ride much especially outdoors. Felt way hotter coming back. One key point I've found is even being heat acclimated threshold and VO2 efforts are better off done indoors. It definitely effects the quality of the workout significantly. I suspect with Conor being in a cooler climate probably is less heat acclimated for that reason. Hence a bigger drop in power.
I live in the Midwest where a typical summer day is 98 degrees with 99 percent humidity. This is the best time of year in the training regiment to be "insulation challenged". I also have specific light riding clothes. But most of all I tell people that the key to surviving in the heat, whether you are working on your car, mowing the grass, or out on a century bike ride is staying AHEAD of your hydration and using a good sunscreen to not get sunburned. Once you get sunburned your skin exponentially loses its ability to dissipate heat and you are literally toast.
I think it should be a combo of both heat and altitude. Especially if your riding into the mountains at 2,000m where the air is thinner. You have to train for what your going to race in. And Yes ALWAYS be careful!
The key for my rides for multiple hours in the extreme summer heat. Routes that have township parks/ sports fields every ~15miles so I can refill my bottles. Allowing me to drink multiple bottles an hour and it gives me a safety spot to stop if I were to overheat. Now if my fitness is bad I will not ride multiple hours in extreme heat. A short ride fine but not long if my fitness isn't good.
Love riding in the heat. Funny GCN recently did a video on heat training as the “new” thing. Better than altitude as if it’s a new discovery. Chris has been saying it for 20 years
Thank you Chris for reminding everyone that the best option is (for most people) to go out and ride their bikes. It is funny (or painful) to see all these pals trying to emulate what the pro are doing to reach absolute top fitness while they don't even train 10 hours a week. It's one thing for a serious amateur training 20h or more a week to start thinking about marginal gains like natural ways to increase epo production, hemoglobin mass and other. But for the other 90% of the amateur riders, just work on getting the basis right and ride your bike outside. GCN and alike clearly does not help in this though...
I might never get used to the heat, Chris. In Belgium, it never gets +109 F. It's more like 95 F, and that's on a very hot day during the summer's. I prefer more chilly weather (not rain) to ride.
Its very important for people to distinguish long rides and heat acclimation verses current heat training methods (short rides with an induced fever, very low intensity) It is definitely possible to acclimate to heat, and to do a lot in heat. Problem is, there is also a limit to what you can withstand , and it is very difficult to distinguish when you are crossing that limit. I crossed that limit doing a long ride on a hot day, and it messed me up I have felt more OK in heat than other people over 20 years of riding. I currently live in a very hot/humid area and have been acclimated to the heat quite well. Then.... ONE DAY, I rode too hot for too long and went over some limit which I couldn't even feel / recognize that day. Then I was sick for 5 days. The Next long and hot ride (not even all that long), i got sick again. Now I feel better, but i am scared of riding when it's really hot. Also, I feel like I am also physically more uncomfortable riding in heat. I hope it's not permanent, but it seems like it could be.
That GCN bit was very interesting- particularly the increase in hemoglobin as the result of heat training. My rule is never run out of water. In hot weather, I'll drain about a liter an hour so I carry two large bike bottles and stop for water if i run out. Also, we now know, thanks to ultra endurance athletes, that so-called "junk miles" in zone 2 are what actually does the most benefit for endurance.
I like the heat in fact this year it was 122° in Palm Springs California. I did 22 miles took about two hours, 7 water bottles and I had to stop every 15 minutes to cool down but it was an interesting experience it was like a furnace.
I remember this TDF24 Isola 2000, in the transmission they asked the reporter who was at the summit if it was a day for Vingegaard. He said No, because it was not a hot day.
One thing is the acclimation. Another thing is the effects on hemoglobin mass, so it might be worthwhile even when competing in the cold. And visma probably did heat inside at altitude as well as Pogacar 😅
Here in Central Florida we have 110° heat index every day for 3 months. It's disgusting hot to ride. Also, I'm a Firefighter. This heat it makes you or break you. You all should try it to understand 80% or more humidity feels like. Cheers from the Swamp
Yeah definitely for new conditions that you've never done before, either distance or weather, have a bailout plan. Connor at GCN could have stepped out of the test lab at any point if things went really bad. Even if you want to try the bad idea of a long ride in hot weather, plan a route with loops coming back to the start so you have easy options to quit early
I have been riding in 90° weather for a number of years. I was doing a 40 mile ride on a 100° day, there was no shade anywhere near by (it's Texas, Red River area) and I nearly sunstroked out. A guy drove by , stopped ,and let me sit in his pickup while I waited for my daughter to come rescue me. I think it's just the luck of the draw, some days you can do it, some days you can't...
We have a cat. He was very interested in this heat video, even though he's said to be fixed. However he's a Chomki Boi and has no interest in weight loss whatsoever.
I raced la Vuelta a Venezuela twice and Vuelta a Tachira once and the first time we got off the plane at 2:00 AM and the temp was 109, we freaked out. But we became 'Heat Misers' . The key is breathing through your nose as much as possible, staying properly hydrated, and most importantly being mindful of your core body temp. I have stories of what happens when ya don't.
@@ChrisHornerCycling , John Roden, at La Vuelta a Conquistidor's mtb race went hyponatremia and they wouldn't treat him until his wife's credit card cleared. Yes, he lived and prospered but it was touch and go for a hot second!
A question i have: can you get the same "heat training" benefits by just sitting in a sauna or hot tub? I think you can. I spent a month on vacation. No riding. I did go to bath houses ebery day and sat in saunas and hot tubs. After, my power was surprisingly high.
The worst thing about heat is when you fill your bottles up and the roads that hot and your bottles heat up to Luke warm in about 15mins it's horrible that's only ever happened maybe 3 times though.
Important to mention: Heat training benefits come quickly and go quickly. If you always train in the heat, the quality of your training will be limited. Best to do you training in optimal situation and then add heat training in before the event. Timing that is up to you to figure out. Good luck!
I agree with 90% of the butterfly effect but strongly disagree on this one. Heat training can cause dehydration which can cause blood thickening which can cause venereal or arterial blood clots which can cause death or at best being laid up in the hospital for weeks. I did a couple of weeks of inadvertent heat training in Vietnam and after the last day-a race- at 37 degrees / 99% humidity, I totally lost so much irreplaceable fluid that I barely made it home. Drank a ton of water n took a nap and when I woke up my left leg no longer functioned for anything better than walking. Turns out I had a 10cm long arterial clot in my leg and it required 7 hours of painful surgery and near death to remove it. It’s not like I wasn’t constantly drinking water the whole time I was riding there but the body just can’t replace that much water even between rides. I do believe some people (Vietnamese ppl for example) are better able to deal with it than others. But for me I’d much rather deal with snow n ice than another month in a chinese hospital so I’ll never consciously heat train and when I do need to go to VN I’m careful not to ride outside each day.
I think heat training depends on your ability to acclimatize to extreme heat. After living in both Europe and the West in the United States I noticed that the majority of people that can't handle heat live in specific regions of both Europe and the United States. Some of us love the heat and some suffer greatly.
I didn’t know heat training increases your hematocrit values. That’s really interesting to me. I wonder what the mechanism is? Altitude is obvious, the oxygen concentration is lower so your body compensates by making more red blood cells. Heat is not so obvious.
Not training in the heat is worse than training in the heat for sure. Imagine relaxing in 40C/105F and up... no way. I haven't even begun about sleeping. Don't talk to me about AC's :D
I prefer to ride in the heat. Give me 80-90+ any day. It is just more logical to dial in the water and food in the heat. I hate the cold because I need to force the hydration and nutrition because I don’t feel like I need it. I feel like I’m strongest in the heat. The cold is demoralizing.
@@ChrisHornerCycling He's just a poor boy from a poor family. Spare him his life from this monstrosity. Easy come, easy go, will you let me go? Pog says nooo, I will not let you goooooo
EXTREME DANGER to exercise in heat above 95 degrees and high humidity. I am a certified outdoor wilderness paramedic. Skin temperature is 95 F. In high humidity zero evaporation. This means you have NO WAY to cool down. Exercising in these conditions causes heat stroke and death. If you become irritable confused and or uncoordinated stop immediately jump into cold water and or get help asap. Death is imminent. Chris you are not qualified to discuss this topic. You are giving advice that causes death. If you exercised in these temps over 100 and very low humidity and stayed hydrated it was still extremely dangerous
Right. Crazy good. MX clothing is so hot because the fabric has to stand up to crashing and bushes. Not to mention all the protective gear under and over your clothes. 🥵🔥
I lived in the Sacramento Valley in the late '80s. I learned to sweat a lot sooner and heavier on hot days. 85 to 95 was just getting warm, 100+ was more of problem. One bottle of water inside and one bottle outside every 10 miles. When you get too dry your ability to do anything goes away.
@@stevereimer5254 I’m saying to enjoy it you can’t be mentally healthy. That’s what Horner said unless I misheard him. I live in San Diego and the rare days when it gets to 90-100 are beyond awful to ride. The human body is not designed to function 100% in extreme heat. Especially during physical exercise.
Extreme heat has a different effect on everyone. Body size, health, and of course overall fitness will make the heat harder to deal with. I’m not a fan of extreme heat any more since all of those situations have changed drastically for me and not in a positive way but there was time when I loved it because the heat never bothered me like it did most. 👊🔥🥵
I did four or five good years training in Sac. We (Trent Klasna and I) would leave early in the morning so that the first hour or two it was not crazy hot (still was 90-95;) and then we would finish in that 105-107 degrees. Sac has some hot summer days no doubt. 👊🔥🤪
as a Brazillian I've loved this video, cause we literally have no choice most days, it's just golden information, I would really aprecciate if you can elaborate as much as you whant on that topic Mr. Horner
Those of us in Texas needed this video about 6 months ago!
TBF this year was milder than last
Come to Australia its just starting to get warm.
I bet you guys did. 🤪🏆🔥🔥🔥🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵👊👊👊
@@ananovo8662 Not around Wichita Falls. We had 100° days for a week at a time on more than one occasion, and only one or two days under 90° all summer. It's late October and we're still getting 90° plus days...
Always happy to see a new Chris Horner video!
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I live in Phoenix and I ride my bike to and from work every day, even on days in the summer when they are issuing heat warnings. My daily ride to and from work altogether is about 16 miles, but on the weekends, I'll do even more. You just have to make sure that you are carrying lots of water and don't have anything heavy in your stomach.
I did some riding in Phoenix before my Vuelta win in 2013. And I got sisters there so I’m in the area from time to time. It’s hot 🔥👊
Also 16 miles is short enough that the body won't be too hot too long. It's a great length for a hot ride
I used to race MX, and that was incredibly brutal in the summer. With bicycle racing, naturally after i stopped, i figured out a great trick: soak your jersey in ice water before your ride. Yes, it will feel too cold at first, and modern jerseys dry out quickly, but it really helps to keep your core temp down. The other thing to try in the middle of a hot ride is to stop and rinse your jersey under cold water. It helps a lot.
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Great video! I happen to HATE riding in heat. I live in SoCal and hit it first thing in the morning -- preferably a 7am departure. But I also spend 6 months west of Austin, Texas, and in late spring, there is only so much you can do to escape the heat. My problem riding in Texas in late spring is that my rides are far away from any gas stations on rural roads. So planning my hydration and caloric intake is absolutely critical. A spare water bottle, and some gels (or Pop Tarts -- thanks Chris) help me navigate those longer rides in the back country.
Pop tarts. 👊👍
Suffered some heatstroke 20 years or so ago. Even today, I cannot handle the heat. Once the thermo hits 80+F, count me out.
Same here
Do you guys live in a cool climate? I’m curious if it’s possible to acclimate. 🤷🏻♀️
@@thart6103 I was a bike messenger in San Francisco during the mid 1980's. Not exactly hot there. My heat stroke was in lake Tahoe on a mountain it was around 105 degrees. Helicopter evac.
Most seriously have to be careful when the heat goes above body temperature. 🥵👍
@thart6103 I have felt more OK in heat than other people over 20 years of riding. I currently live in a very hot/humid area and have been acclimated to the heat quite well. Then.... ONE DAY, I rode too hot for too long and went over some limit which I couldn't even feel / recognize that day.
Then I was sick for 5 days.
The Next long and hot ride (not even all that long), i got sick again.
Now I feel better, but i am scared of riding when it's really hot. Also, I feel like I am also physically more uncomfortable riding in heat. I hope it's not permanent, but it seems like it could be.
It is definitely possible to acclimate, and to do a lot in heat. Problem is, there is also a limit to what you can withstand , and it is very difficult to distinguish when you are crossing that limit.
Good one, Chris! Lots of sensible training advice. I needed to hear it.
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I'm glad this info is getting out. I've been on the trainer in a hoodie for years, now. While probably not totally ideal, I've always found it better than sitting with a fan in the AC
I did the Gravel World in Lincoln NE this summer. It was 38 Celsius and i suffered from heat exhaustion, I was vomiting. Took me 3 weeks to recover. I'm from Canada and very rarely train in anything over 25 Celsius.
Yikes. 😱 🔥
I love to ride in the heat. I would ride in 100+ in San Jose as much as I could. My wife would ask every time, "What! It's too hot out there!". However, after serveral months of excessive travel for work, my fitness would drop of a lot. I would take it really slow (I pretty much had to) and drink tons of water along the way. Totally agree Chris; heat training works for me.
Good plan. Never zero to hero. Work into it day by day. 👊👍
In training in heat, you need to adjust intensity too, which might be good for limiting intense workouts. Too much intensity during a volume block might be detrimental…
Agreed.👊👊
As a person who spent most of his adult life in tropical heat, and a minor part in cold climates, I completely agree with you. One suggestion though, depending on the level of fitness, people should start with shorter sessions of heat training; there is no point in starting with a full hour sessions in those severe temperatures. The same goes for riders who have been training in mild climates, including high altitude training, they have to gradually expand the time training in extreme heat. But all those considerations should be included in an adequate training schedule.
Great info Chris, and I completely agree. I was a hiking / mt. guide in the Palm Springs area for 30 yrs., and regularly trained on my road bike in this type of weather, (at times in 110), but I had the advantage of very dry climate, (30% or less, at times much less), and usually windy. I've seen many of my past clients who were fit, but not heat adapted, who suffered if they didn't reduce their intensity.
Hiking, (always w elevation gains), was tougher with less air moving over your body. Now living in Orange county, ca., where it rarely climbs over 100, I still always carry a camelbak pack which allows me to stay hydrated for hrs. I got to the point where the heat rarely bothered me, but one must be keen to closely monitor yourself.
Agreed 👊👍
I hope you're making videos over the winter period bud, just talk about anything related to cycling to keep the cold turkey at bay, tell us stories from your period, and how things have changed etc, anything, 👍🖖🙂
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Ramona rider here. The heat was brutal this year!
I spent some serious time at the gas station fueling up my training rides there as I passed thru. 👊👍
Agree. After moving to the Philippines in 2017, I ride, train and race (sometimes) in the heat. In the dry season here (Dec-May) it is normal to see temps of over 90 by 9am and over 100 by 10am with the sun straight up in the sky (no shade). Luckily, those temps usually mean almost zero wind here. After 11 am my Garmin or Wahoo will register temps over 110 degrees on hot days. I've learned to get ahead on hydration and to plan long rides to finish by noon. Typical weight loss is 5 lbs on a 4 hr ride (175lb rider) with intake of 3-4 liters. On occasions where I miscalculated, I've seen speed and power drop off to almost nothing in the final hour of a 7 hour ride.
Heat training helps acclimatize, and helps in performance if you head back to cooler temps when looking to realize those performance gains. But always training and racing in the heat month after month can really zap your body and lead to exhaustion quickly. Still, I would pick hot over cold any day. If I could choose the perfect temps to ride in year round it would 60-65 degrees, low humidity and no wind - but that place exists in my cycling dreams.
I live in the Phoenix Valley and regularly ride in the heat or did when I was 30-40 years younger. One year it got over 120 degrees and I rode 5 miles to work in the morning and at noon I went for a casual around the block with very high temps, close to or over 120 as the high for the day was 121 or so. One other time at 115 degrees I commuted 45 miles . I was about 30-35 and a very fit commuter. You have to build up slowly to long distance and drink at least 3 water bottles and hour.
Lots of water. 👊👊
I worked on this this summer in and I'm in LA area. I just 60-90 min rides endurance rides were perfect for this. Got a lot easier after a couple weeks and found myself extending it out to 2-2.5 hrs some days at around 100 or so degrees. Felt great. I got a sinus infection for 5 or 6 weeks in August and didn't ride much especially outdoors. Felt way hotter coming back. One key point I've found is even being heat acclimated threshold and VO2 efforts are better off done indoors. It definitely effects the quality of the workout significantly. I suspect with Conor being in a cooler climate probably is less heat acclimated for that reason. Hence a bigger drop in power.
I live in the Midwest where a typical summer day is 98 degrees with 99 percent humidity. This is the best time of year in the training regiment to be "insulation challenged". I also have specific light riding clothes. But most of all I tell people that the key to surviving in the heat, whether you are working on your car, mowing the grass, or out on a century bike ride is staying AHEAD of your hydration and using a good sunscreen to not get sunburned. Once you get sunburned your skin exponentially loses its ability to dissipate heat and you are literally toast.
Agreed. It’s all about good sunscreen. 🧴 👊👍
I think it should be a combo of both heat and altitude. Especially if your riding into the mountains at 2,000m where the air is thinner. You have to train for what your going to race in. And Yes ALWAYS be careful!
Sound advice. Thanks dude
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The key for my rides for multiple hours in the extreme summer heat. Routes that have township parks/ sports fields every ~15miles so I can refill my bottles. Allowing me to drink multiple bottles an hour and it gives me a safety spot to stop if I were to overheat.
Now if my fitness is bad I will not ride multiple hours in extreme heat. A short ride fine but not long if my fitness isn't good.
And keep the hard efforts to zero until the fitness is good. 👊👍
Love riding in the heat. Funny GCN recently did a video on heat training as the “new” thing. Better than altitude as if it’s a new discovery. Chris has been saying it for 20 years
Hehehe. Yep. I started giggling when Conor mentioned it as new. 😂🤪👊
Thank you Chris for reminding everyone that the best option is (for most people) to go out and ride their bikes. It is funny (or painful) to see all these pals trying to emulate what the pro are doing to reach absolute top fitness while they don't even train 10 hours a week. It's one thing for a serious amateur training 20h or more a week to start thinking about marginal gains like natural ways to increase epo production, hemoglobin mass and other. But for the other 90% of the amateur riders, just work on getting the basis right and ride your bike outside. GCN and alike clearly does not help in this though...
I might never get used to the heat, Chris. In Belgium, it never gets +109 F. It's more like 95 F, and that's on a very hot day during the summer's. I prefer more chilly weather (not rain) to ride.
Very insightful video, thank you.
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Hell yeah!!! Palomar at 105f is epic🤘😆🤘
Its very important for people to distinguish long rides and heat acclimation verses current heat training methods (short rides with an induced fever, very low intensity)
It is definitely possible to acclimate to heat, and to do a lot in heat. Problem is, there is also a limit to what you can withstand , and it is very difficult to distinguish when you are crossing that limit.
I crossed that limit doing a long ride on a hot day, and it messed me up
I have felt more OK in heat than other people over 20 years of riding. I currently live in a very hot/humid area and have been acclimated to the heat quite well. Then.... ONE DAY, I rode too hot for too long and went over some limit which I couldn't even feel / recognize that day.
Then I was sick for 5 days.
The Next long and hot ride (not even all that long), i got sick again.
Now I feel better, but i am scared of riding when it's really hot. Also, I feel like I am also physically more uncomfortable riding in heat. I hope it's not permanent, but it seems like it could be.
I rode up Newport Coast today. I’m ready coach
That GCN bit was very interesting- particularly the increase in hemoglobin as the result of heat training. My rule is never run out of water. In hot weather, I'll drain about a liter an hour so I carry two large bike bottles and stop for water if i run out. Also, we now know, thanks to ultra endurance athletes, that so-called "junk miles" in zone 2 are what actually does the most benefit for endurance.
I have been told many a times that I was just doing junk miles thru out my career. 😂🤪👊
I like the heat in fact this year it was 122° in Palm Springs California. I did 22 miles took about two hours, 7 water bottles and I had to stop every 15 minutes to cool down but it was an interesting experience it was like a furnace.
....and Chris when are you and i going to coach a pro team?😂 Your tactics and knowledge,experience is amazing!
I remember this TDF24 Isola 2000, in the transmission they asked the reporter who was at the summit if it was a day for Vingegaard. He said No, because it was not a hot day.
Who said this? Normally reporters would say a hot day favors Jonas.
Strange. Jonas would normally prefer the heat if Pogi is around. 🤔👍
Top 5!
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One thing is the acclimation. Another thing is the effects on hemoglobin mass, so it might be worthwhile even when competing in the cold.
And visma probably did heat inside at altitude as well as Pogacar 😅
Love all your videos enjoy the tactics but really want to see more training videos....
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Here in Central Florida we have 110° heat index every day for 3 months. It's disgusting hot to ride. Also, I'm a Firefighter. This heat it makes you or break you. You all should try it to understand 80% or more humidity feels like. Cheers from the Swamp
Humidity is brutal. 🥵👊
Yeah definitely for new conditions that you've never done before, either distance or weather, have a bailout plan. Connor at GCN could have stepped out of the test lab at any point if things went really bad. Even if you want to try the bad idea of a long ride in hot weather, plan a route with loops coming back to the start so you have easy options to quit early
Exactly. Be prepared 👊👊
Heat is one thing…humidity is another.
Me, who loves training in Las Vegas. I've always said this same thing. It affects your body just like altitude training
Yep. I have done some train in Vegas. It’s hot. 🥵 👊👍
I have been riding in 90° weather for a number of years. I was doing a 40 mile ride on a 100° day, there was no shade anywhere near by (it's Texas, Red River area) and I nearly sunstroked out. A guy drove by , stopped ,and let me sit in his pickup while I waited for my daughter to come rescue me. I think it's just the luck of the draw, some days you can do it, some days you can't...
We have a cat. He was very interested in this heat video, even though he's said to be fixed. However he's a Chomki Boi and has no interest in weight loss whatsoever.
Hehehe. Better to stay away from the heat then. 😂🐈👊🥵
Garrett I am a 61 year old former Cat 3, listen to your father. I am very impressed that you were riding 300 miles a week.
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I raced la Vuelta a Venezuela twice and Vuelta a Tachira once and the first time we got off the plane at 2:00 AM and the temp was 109, we freaked out. But we became 'Heat Misers' . The key is breathing through your nose as much as possible, staying properly hydrated, and most importantly being mindful of your core body temp. I have stories of what happens when ya don't.
I bet you do. 😱🥵👍
@@ChrisHornerCycling , John Roden, at La Vuelta a Conquistidor's mtb race went hyponatremia and they wouldn't treat him until his wife's credit card cleared. Yes, he lived and prospered but it was touch and go for a hot second!
A question i have: can you get the same "heat training" benefits by just sitting in a sauna or hot tub? I think you can.
I spent a month on vacation. No riding. I did go to bath houses ebery day and sat in saunas and hot tubs.
After, my power was surprisingly high.
The worst thing about heat is when you fill your bottles up and the roads that hot and your bottles heat up to Luke warm in about 15mins it's horrible that's only ever happened maybe 3 times though.
Yep. 🔥👊🥵
Important to mention: Heat training benefits come quickly and go quickly. If you always train in the heat, the quality of your training will be limited. Best to do you training in optimal situation and then add heat training in before the event. Timing that is up to you to figure out. Good luck!
Timing and fitness is crucial that’s for sure. 👊👊
I agree with 90% of the butterfly effect but strongly disagree on this one. Heat training can cause dehydration which can cause blood thickening which can cause venereal or arterial blood clots which can cause death or at best being laid up in the hospital for weeks. I did a couple of weeks of inadvertent heat training in Vietnam and after the last day-a race- at 37 degrees / 99% humidity, I totally lost so much irreplaceable fluid that I barely made it home. Drank a ton of water n took a nap and when I woke up my left leg no longer functioned for anything better than walking. Turns out I had a 10cm long arterial clot in my leg and it required 7 hours of painful surgery and near death to remove it. It’s not like I wasn’t constantly drinking water the whole time I was riding there but the body just can’t replace that much water even between rides. I do believe some people (Vietnamese ppl for example) are better able to deal with it than others. But for me I’d much rather deal with snow n ice than another month in a chinese hospital so I’ll never consciously heat train and when I do need to go to VN I’m careful not to ride outside each day.
The heat is serious business. It will affect everyone differently no doubt. 😱🔥👍
Canadian cyclists have left the chat, gone back to playing hockey 😂
Bring on the snow!
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This summer in Southern and Eastern Europe it was either heat training or no training at all man…😂
Not mad about it to be honest, too exhausting…
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I think heat training depends on your ability to acclimatize to extreme heat.
After living in both Europe and the West in the United States I noticed that the majority of people that can't handle heat live in specific regions of both Europe and the United States.
Some of us love the heat and some suffer greatly.
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Stay safe and be prepared to buy ice water or stay in a shop that has AC. Heat exhaustion or worse will really put a damper on a ride.
And not only that, it really comes on FAST.
Exactly. Be careful 👊🥵👍🔥
Heat is one thing. Heat + humidity is another.
I didn’t know heat training increases your hematocrit values. That’s really interesting to me. I wonder what the mechanism is? Altitude is obvious, the oxygen concentration is lower so your body compensates by making more red blood cells. Heat is not so obvious.
Me too 🤔👊
Not training in the heat is worse than training in the heat for sure. Imagine relaxing in 40C/105F and up... no way. I haven't even begun about sleeping.
Don't talk to me about AC's :D
I got to have A/C going once I’m back home from those hot rides. 👊👊
I prefer to ride in the heat. Give me 80-90+ any day. It is just more logical to dial in the water and food in the heat. I hate the cold because I need to force the hydration and nutrition because I don’t feel like I need it. I feel like I’m strongest in the heat. The cold is demoralizing.
Always hard for me to drink in the cold also. 🤔👊
i don t watch gcn ! the sun is shining ! njoylife
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My cat also trains while she is in heat. She is so motivated, I never even told her to train.
Meow 🤪👊
Sugar and salt on half tomatoes, like miracle food in early 90s
I never tried that. 👊👍
Jonas says it’s hard to find heat in Denmark
It may be hard to find heat, but it's impossible to find altitude in Denmark
@@eljanrimsa5843 lol
That poor kid is probably rarely home with that cold weather and flat terrain. 😱👍
@@ChrisHornerCycling He's just a poor boy from a poor family. Spare him his life from this monstrosity. Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
Pog says nooo, I will not let you goooooo
Now I know why riders from Saudi Arabia are winning the big tours
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I like heat training. Mainly because it helps my reynauds.
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So when I train in a hot garage, I'm naturally blood doping? Hmmmmm.
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Chris Horner: "You SHOULD Train in Heat, but be CAREFUL"
Every rider in the Caribbean islands:
Let’s hope they have adjusted to it better than all of us. 🥵👊
Pogi is training in the heat of Monaco
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Conner’s a wimp! 😂😂. Just kidding. 🤷♂️
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Given that Connor lives in the UK, I'm guessing he doesn't get much heat training these days. I love heat. Go global warming!
He probably doesn’t. 😂👊
EXTREME DANGER to exercise in heat above 95 degrees and high humidity. I am a certified outdoor wilderness paramedic. Skin temperature is 95 F. In high humidity zero evaporation. This means you have NO WAY to cool down. Exercising in these conditions causes heat stroke and death. If you become irritable confused and or uncoordinated stop immediately jump into cold water and or get help asap. Death is imminent. Chris you are not qualified to discuss this topic. You are giving advice that causes death. If you exercised in these temps over 100 and very low humidity and stayed hydrated it was still extremely dangerous
Also, thank God for modern fabrics!
Right. Crazy good. MX clothing is so hot because the fabric has to stand up to crashing and bushes. Not to mention all the protective gear under and over your clothes. 🥵🔥
@ChrisHornerCycling It's better now, but bottom line, mx boots, pants, jerseys, plus helmet, gloves, and goggles, wow, insane heat.
Anyone who enjoys cycling in 85-95 degree weather needs to have their head checked.
I lived in the Sacramento Valley in the late '80s. I learned to sweat a lot sooner and heavier on hot days. 85 to 95 was just getting warm, 100+ was more of problem. One bottle of water inside and one bottle outside every 10 miles. When you get too dry your ability to do anything goes away.
@@stevereimer5254 I’m saying to enjoy it you can’t be mentally healthy. That’s what Horner said unless I misheard him. I live in San Diego and the rare days when it gets to 90-100 are beyond awful to ride. The human body is not designed to function 100% in extreme heat. Especially during physical exercise.
Extreme heat has a different effect on everyone. Body size, health, and of course overall fitness will make the heat harder to deal with. I’m not a fan of extreme heat any more since all of those situations have changed drastically for me and not in a positive way but there was time when I loved it because the heat never bothered me like it did most. 👊🔥🥵
I did four or five good years training in Sac. We (Trent Klasna and I) would leave early in the morning so that the first hour or two it was not crazy hot (still was 90-95;) and then we would finish in that 105-107 degrees. Sac has some hot summer days no doubt. 👊🔥🤪
as a Brazillian I've loved this video, cause we literally have no choice most days,
it's just golden information, I would really aprecciate if you can elaborate as much as you whant on that topic Mr. Horner
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