Double thumbs up for this Mr. Bruce! Thanks for the great tip. I can always depend on you to come up with great ways of doing things. By the way, I finally saved up and got me that lift table. I had to drive over to the next city, here in North Alabama, but I m sure it is going to be worth it.
Wow, that was a great idea Bruce. That primer base issue is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to small engine repair. Now you’re forcing me to buy a heat gun! Thanks!
@@BrucesShop Well... the machine I posted on my channel today was a 1995 Super Recycler. It may or may not have ever had the carburetor cleaned. I bravely removed the primer base, thinking it would need your heat gun trick. I reinstalled the carburetor with a new gasket and without any extra work, it primes as strong as any I’ve seen. So... you never know when the primer base may cause issues.
@@BrucesShop Hi Bruce, As discussed, I’ve created a jig to assist with the primer base straightening process. Please watch the video I’ve created on my channel. Let me know if you approve? Thanks, Jim
@@BrucesShop Hey Bruce I’m re-engineering the primer base jig that I created. I’m making the following assumptions... 1. The outermost 4 corners of the base should be in the same horizontal plane. 2. The carburetor face, is in that same plane. Let me know if there is an address I can send the photos to? Thanks, Jim
Bruce, this is a great idea. I have a candidate in my shop that 2 gaskets isn’t enough. I will try it this weekend and give a full report. Thanks again Bruce for all the awesome videos and education that you put out here on your channel.
Good fix! What also works is to coat the gasket with sealer then let it cure. Once the sealer cures install the gasket and the primer will work every time, it provides an airtight seal without sticking to anything. I keep pre-coated gaskets in my carb parts box so I can just grab them when I need ‘em.
Good call on bending that plate. That takes a tender touch with the heat gun or a tremendous amount of luck. Only the brave would take that on. Great fix Bruce. Stevo
Good to see you back Mr. Bruce. What a coincidence. I just something similar ln a Honda airbox this week. Most plastics and acrylic polymers have a "memory" of their original casting. I just got it warm, pressed it with my fingers, and quenched it in cool water. It stayed in place, but I like your squeeze method with the washers.
I struggled with this problem for a week, then I saw one guy on TH-cam reach down and peel an old dirty price sticker from a box, that just happened to be laying there, stuck it over the bottom part of that little channel and low and behold, it worked!
Bruce, Good job. You beat me to it. I have the same idea, except I am going to try to heat it up, then install it HOT to the carb and let it conform while it cools. I will let you know. how it works. Also, my thought are with you and yours.
I learned something new,, I have had problems with that type of primer setups, I finely used some Indian head shellac on the gasket and it did work but I never gave it a though the plastic could be warped.
Great job Bruce, next time instead of heating it, which works great don't get me wrong, but let the gasket soak in water so it swells, then put it on, let it dry over night, then try it..... Always works for me.
What an ingenious idea for sure! I tried double gasketing, then I really screwed up and put a "dab" of sealer on the gaskets thinking that would do the trick. It did, inadvertently plugged one of the air bleed/vents in the carb! Finally parted with too much money and replaced the cheap plastic cover so the primer would work right and cleaned the carb again. Glad I saved the old cover though, will try this for sure. Where exactly did you place those "washers"?
How's she goin'? That was a neat repair to the warped primer assembly plate!!! Pretty clever. The surging is always interesting for me. I try and determine what could cause the surging. And then I clean the carb and it kind of fixes it!!! LOL Thanks for posting and take care!!
I have personally seen this on a few Briggs and Stratton motors, I've always been successful with doubling up the gaskets, Briggs and Stratton quality control leaves a lot to be desired
wow bruce love the rpm meters im surprised some high school does not ask you to teach a lawnmower automobile class oh i was wondering if the seattle heat wave came to your area any?
@@BrucesShop i hope my reply didnt come off south of what i meant was just saying your used to hot weather by going to mexico hot weather doesnt bother u sir have a great 4th bruce be safe sir
Agree with others; brilliant fix! Also, never thought about holding that little tach against the plug wire. I guess you cut off the wire lead that usually is part of those devices. Said tach wire is a pain to wrap around the plug wire although there are times that you need it in order to position yourself at a distance from the mower while monitoring rpm.
Hey Bruce I have the exact tach meter but it came with a long wire and I notice that yours is really short lol. Is it because you cut the length and does it affect the accuracy? And great top again as usual!
Nize fix,,I absolutely agree,, these older engines will last longer at a lower RPM. I happen to like the sound around 2600 rpm. Higher is a terrible sound, its sounds like lawnmower racing in the neighborhood! One would need ear protection. Its more tolerable and enjoyable this way! If someone doesn't have very tough or long grass or is not a contractor dealing with wet lawns, the engine doesn't need to be at its max rated rpm. Besides, that's the rpm for the engine, not the blade/machine rpm needed for the job
gobsmacked !!! i have watched several youtube videos regarding this major pain-in-the-ass issue. i have also tried spreading the load with washers under the head of those screws as well as experimenting with varying levels of tightness. very low success rate. just one question ... were you able to repeat this fix or is it possible that you just got lucky on this one ? thanks, mr. pender.
Hello! Could you please share the dimensions of the trolley that lifts the mowers? Also the thickness and width and length of the scissors and the thickness, width and height of the "u" profile where the wheel slides. Thank you very much in advance!
In my experience, the old air filter bases are much better quality than the newer ones. They seem to be made of a different plastic than the later versions and resist warpage much better. Unfortunately I have used up all my old ones……
What works for me ,I deck off the rises level it off as best I can, then I use a Paper gasket then a hand cut leather gasket then a paper gasket works everytime for me it sucks up all of the unevenness!
You could be right. On something like this you just keep trying. Remember the camera is on while I come up up with potential solutions. No script at all.
@@BrucesShop Right at the beginning (00:10) when you flip it over there is a metal piece, elongated with a round end. I have the same engine on my JD 14pz and have often wonder about the function of that piece.
@@coryc5545 Well what I would do is try 2 gasket on top of each other to fill in the gaps. There are lots of YT vids on it. I should have mentioned this first.
Jesus…never thought of this…this year I’ve had a record breaking 6 machines that had warped covers. Double gaskets didn’t work. NEVER crossed my mind to heat em back. I was buy the whole ASM $9.33 shipped to my front door with a new air filter. Cheaper then buying it with out it included. Go figure!
Bought a new carb that came with the primer assembly for 20 bucks. Kept the carb for another day. 20 bucks for parts and my labor and I get a spare carb
We've got a winner: This is simply the best back yard mechanic fix of the year. Thanks Bruce
Thanks Claus. See you in a week or so. My sister is having a celebration of life for Dad tomorrow.
@@BrucesShop My thoughts goes out to you and your family. See you soon my friend. Dannebrog at half mast.
Close-ups where they count! Bruce brings us right in to see the details of what he’s working for! Stay cool Mr. Pender.
Thanks Gary
Great attitude toward your fellow man in having a loaner for them . Another good video Bruce .👍
Thanks again Marshall
I never cease to learn something from you, Bruce.. Your principal would be proud lol.
LOL. Right the principal of the thing.
Hey Bruce,
It is always with great pleasure to listen to your weekly stories. I sit and relax listening to you ...Keep up the good work! 👍
Thank you so much.
Fun fix on the assembly ! Really cool to hear how it was flooding after drilling out the hole . Thanks Bruce and take care ! ✌️
Thanks. This is the second Quantum bowl nut I over-drilled this season.
Double thumbs up for this Mr. Bruce! Thanks for the great tip. I can always depend on you to come up with great ways of doing things. By the way, I finally saved up and got me that lift table. I had to drive over to the next city, here in North Alabama, but I m sure it is going to be worth it.
You will love it.
Wow, that was a great idea Bruce. That primer base issue is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to small engine repair.
Now you’re forcing me to buy a heat gun! Thanks!
A torch a long ways away may work
@@BrucesShop
Just picked up a next to new Mastercraft 12.5A heat gun for $55! Nice deal.
Going to build an oak primer base adjuster this afternoon!
@@BrucesShop
Well... the machine I posted on my channel today was a 1995 Super Recycler. It may or may not have ever had the carburetor cleaned. I bravely removed the primer base, thinking it would need your heat gun trick. I reinstalled the carburetor with a new gasket and without any extra work, it primes as strong as any I’ve seen. So... you never know when the primer base may cause issues.
@@BrucesShop
Hi Bruce,
As discussed, I’ve created a jig to assist with the primer base straightening process. Please watch the video I’ve created on my channel. Let me know if you approve?
Thanks, Jim
@@BrucesShop
Hey Bruce
I’m re-engineering the primer base jig that I created.
I’m making the following assumptions...
1. The outermost 4 corners of the base should be in the same horizontal plane.
2. The carburetor face, is in that same plane.
Let me know if there is an address I can send the photos to?
Thanks,
Jim
Bruce, this is a great idea. I have a candidate in my shop that 2 gaskets isn’t enough. I will try it this weekend and give a full report. Thanks again Bruce for all the awesome videos and education that you put out here on your channel.
Ken from Ken' small engines uses an old carb as the holder. I just thought i would mention that.
Good morning Bruce from Florida. Good fix as usual.
Thanks a lot.
Brilliant idea Bruce. I am so excited to try this next time one won't prime with 2 gaskets. I love Quantums ! 31 years old and it still runs great.
Best of luck on that
Never saw anyone try to "flatten" the air cleaner backing plate. That is pretty cool! I might have to try this just because.
it is good stuff but it's not like that permatex that about welds parts together.
Go for it!
Brilliant fix on the warped plastic! Thanks.
Thanks for the nice comment.
Good fix! What also works is to coat the gasket with sealer then let it cure. Once the sealer cures install the gasket and the primer will work every time, it provides an airtight seal without sticking to anything. I keep pre-coated gaskets in my carb parts box so I can just grab them when I need ‘em.
Ok Thanks a lot.
Good call on bending that plate. That takes a tender touch with the heat gun or a tremendous amount of luck. Only the brave would take that on. Great fix Bruce. Stevo
Well if it is broken you can't break it. Thanks for chiming in. Great to hear from you. :-)
Good to see you back Mr. Bruce. What a coincidence. I just something similar ln a Honda airbox this week. Most plastics and acrylic polymers have a "memory" of their original casting. I just got it warm, pressed it with my fingers, and quenched it in cool water. It stayed in place, but I like your squeeze method with the washers.
Ken just uses an old carb. I will try that next.
Thanks for the great tip and demonstration.
Well thanks for watching
Absolutely brilliant! This will surely save my butt more times than I can count. Might even try to fab a more permanent metal jig up for this
Yes I did this one "on the fly"
At 04:48 you heard the very best reason to attempt a repair. I love it! 👍
Thanks Dave LOL All fun.
I’ve used masking tape cut to size with an exacto knife to cover that air channel.
Another great idea
You're exactly right, take a piece of tape cover everything except for where the hole is and it works every time
I struggled with this problem for a week, then I saw one guy on TH-cam reach down and peel an old dirty price sticker from a box, that just happened to be laying there, stuck it over the bottom part of that little channel and low and behold, it worked!
That is a great idea to straighten out the air filter cover im going to try that the next time i run into that problem.Thanks bruce
No problem
Bruce thanks so much,you have taught me a lot!
We all learn every day
Bruce, Good job. You beat me to it. I have the same idea, except I am going to try to heat it up, then install it HOT to the carb and let it conform while it cools. I will let you know. how it works. Also, my thought are with you and yours.
Thanks Ray. Have you got an old carb to try that on. Ken from Ken's small engines does that.
@@BrucesShop Just the one mower that i have is what i will try it ot. Cross your fingers.
Excellent engineering Bruce,
Thank you
That was great video.I haven't had a warpped breather cover.Enjoyed it..
I see them a lot out here
Great repair on this primer Assembly bruce 🙌🙌🙌
Thanks Mr. Wrenches.
I learned something new,, I have had problems with that type of primer setups, I finely used some Indian head shellac on the gasket and it did work but I never gave it a though the plastic could be warped.
I hope you never have to take it apart again. That shellac is good
Well it will stick well.
By the way, this works flawlessly. Just did it to mine. Saved me $30! 🎉
I am happy. Thanks
I like that fix Bruce I hope you and Mrs p are all OK lot's of love to you and your family
Thanks Mark. Still working through the whole thing.
Good job my friend. I agree with you about the rpms of an older engine!
Thanks Mr. Nash. How are you doing?
Great job Bruce, next time instead of heating it, which works great don't get me wrong, but let the gasket soak in water so it swells, then put it on, let it dry over night, then try it..... Always works for me.
OK one more Idea thanks
What an ingenious idea for sure! I tried double gasketing, then I really screwed up and put a "dab" of sealer on the gaskets thinking that would do the trick. It did, inadvertently plugged one of the air bleed/vents in the carb! Finally parted with too much money and replaced the cheap plastic cover so the primer would work right and cleaned the carb again. Glad I saved the old cover though, will try this for sure. Where exactly did you place those "washers"?
Wow fairly close to the holes but this was a long time ago now.
I hope you had a great Canada Day Bruce. My triband beam is on the ground for fixing so I didn't get on.
Triband beand beam ???
Great job Bruce. Another skill to add to my list.👍🏻👌🏻
Well if it is broken you can't break it.
How's she goin'? That was a neat repair to the warped primer assembly plate!!! Pretty clever. The surging is always interesting for me. I try and determine what could cause the surging. And then I clean the carb and it kind of fixes it!!! LOL Thanks for posting and take care!!
Surging is the toughest trouble.
Great tip Bruce! I’ve heated a scrap carb and clamped it to the air box a few times to correct the warpage. Tough starting when they don’t prime!
I will try that next. It was :fiddly" lining up the small sockets.
Successful repair for a very common problem. 👍
Thank you sir
I have personally seen this on a few Briggs and Stratton motors, I've always been successful with doubling up the gaskets, Briggs and Stratton quality control leaves a lot to be desired
This one would not work with 3 so nothing was lost by trying. thanks for the comment.
Good job and i like that Chevy
I love that old truck. It is 26 years old.
Fine solutios to sneaky problems, Mr wizard.
Thanks again.
wow bruce love the rpm meters im surprised some high school does not ask you to teach a lawnmower automobile class oh i was wondering if the seattle heat wave came to your area any?
We have had it hotter than 35C for 10 days. 96F. Of course we don't have air conditioning.
@@BrucesShop wow that hot but im sure u going to mexico for vac u can handel it
@@ebfromwyoming4118 Right I spend money for this but I don't have to work in it it LOL
@@BrucesShop i hope my reply didnt come off south of what i meant was just saying your used to hot weather by going to mexico hot weather doesnt bother u sir have a great 4th bruce be safe sir
@@ebfromwyoming4118 I took it positively.. Likewise I didn't want to sound smug or off in any way my friend. It is like a conversation in slo-mo
Agree with others; brilliant fix! Also, never thought about holding that little tach against the plug wire. I guess you cut off the wire lead that usually is part of those devices. Said tach wire is a pain to wrap around the plug wire although there are times that you need it in order to position yourself at a distance from the mower while monitoring rpm.
On mine the plug wire just pulls off.
Well I'll be darn. Nice , I don't have a heat gun but my Coleman lantern puts off a lot of heat. Maybe I'll try. Nice tip brother.
Thanks for the great comment.
Hey Bruce I have the exact tach meter but it came with a long wire and I notice that yours is really short lol. Is it because you cut the length and does it affect the accuracy? And great top again as usual!
I didn't install it. It works on inductance anyway.
Well done Bruce
Thanks a lot Henry
Hey Bruce what is the long metal piece in the housing for at 1:36 in the video?
It is an upside down socket holder
Have a great 4th of juli🇱🇷🇱🇷
Love the videos.
Best from eorupe😊😊
Well our holiday is Canada day on July 1
@@BrucesShop well happy holliday a bit late .... 😃😃
Nize fix,,I absolutely agree,, these older engines will last longer at a lower RPM.
I happen to like the sound around 2600 rpm. Higher is a terrible sound, its sounds like lawnmower racing in the neighborhood!
One would need ear protection. Its more tolerable and enjoyable this way!
If someone doesn't have very tough or long grass or is not a contractor dealing with wet lawns, the engine doesn't need to be at its max rated rpm.
Besides, that's the rpm for the engine, not the blade/machine rpm needed for the job
Thanks Arch
Brilliant Mate!!☺
Thanks a lot RK
Always a pleasure!
Thanks lot.
Very nice, where was the socket placement though? I need to do this to 2 of my quantum engines
Well I had to watch the video to see. I think under the holes.
Another Good Fix Nice to have a heat gun in your arsenal of tools
Yes it is handy
Thank you for sharing your videos.Awesome job.Where did you you pulst engine tachometer from ?
Google is the fastest.
I got mine from ebay. Exact same one.
What a nice fix .Love it.
Thank you
Excellent video. I was wondering where you you got the tach used in the video.
It easy to find on google
I got mine from ebay. Exact same one.
I googled it and found one.😀
gobsmacked !!! i have watched several youtube videos regarding this major pain-in-the-ass issue. i have also tried spreading the load with washers under the head of those screws as well as experimenting with varying levels of tightness. very low success rate. just one question ... were you able to repeat this fix or is it possible that you just got lucky on this one ? thanks, mr. pender.
OK This is You Tube. No take 2's. I have not done this again being honest.
@@BrucesShop that's cool. i will be trying it at some point, so i'll let you know how it goes.
If you can get oem Briggs gasket that is thick I been told they don’t leak. I hate messing with these type primers.
Right They are great wen they work and not at all when they leak
@@BrucesShop your work like a geyser, Bruce. The will definitely flood after 3 pumps. I'm gonna try your method.
I assume the reference to washers was the sockets.
Yes
Bruce thats a nice old mower
OLD is right.
Hello! Could you please share the dimensions of the trolley that lifts the mowers?
Also the thickness and width and length of the scissors and the thickness, width and height of the "u" profile where the wheel slides. Thank you very much in advance!
Well it is - 20 right now but here is a video on the lift
th-cam.com/video/yv7FtFWRHaU/w-d-xo.html
read the comments if you can.
@@BrucesShopMy dad thanks you a lot! He finds your videos very helpful!
In my experience, the old air filter bases are much better quality than the newer ones. They seem to be made of a different plastic than the later versions and resist warpage much better. Unfortunately I have used up all my old ones……
Me too.
What works for me ,I deck off the rises level it off as best I can, then I use a Paper gasket then a hand cut leather gasket then a paper gasket works everytime for me it sucks up all of the unevenness!
Thanks Joe. I have had a couple comments about paper
Mr Bruce your repair is definitely an easier fix thank you for showing this super-duper idea! Glad to see you are back in the airwaves!
This a small bar instead of sockets would work instead?
You could be right. On something like this you just keep trying. Remember the camera is on while I come up up with potential solutions. No script at all.
Great fix there
Thanks.
Bruce what is the purpose of that metal piece on the mower side of that part?
Well that os tough. i can olny think of it being the intake manifold. Do you have a time in the video you are talking about?
@@BrucesShop Right at the beginning (00:10) when you flip it over there is a metal piece, elongated with a round end. I have the same engine on my JD 14pz and have often wonder about the function of that piece.
Are replacements made better so you don't have to fiddle around work the OEM parts?
I don't know
What a. Good idea.. I will post you over some.. I have about 20 you can do.. lol
Thanks Mick
Do you think it would be feasible to do this with it on the motor?
I don't think so
I was just wondering because it wouldnt hurt the motor and you could use the nuts for the studs to form to shape @BrucesShop
@@coryc5545 Well what I would do is try 2 gasket on top of each other to fill in the gaps. There are lots of YT vids on it. I should have mentioned this first.
Great video.
Thanks a lot
Let me be the first to wish you happy birthday. I may be traveling and i didn't want to miss it.
Thanks. 65 coming up in a few weeks
@@BrucesShop yes sir well celebrate the big 65 together. Hope yours will be as good as mine will be.
Jesus…never thought of this…this year I’ve had a record breaking 6 machines that had warped covers. Double gaskets didn’t work. NEVER crossed my mind to heat em back. I was buy the whole ASM $9.33 shipped to my front door with a new air filter. Cheaper then buying it with out it included. Go figure!
Ken from Ken's Small engine Repair uses an old carb then heats them. A good idea too.
Thinking out side the box . Some people are stuck in the box . Thanks
Thanks
Bought a new carb that came with the primer assembly for 20 bucks. Kept the carb for another day. 20 bucks for parts and my labor and I get a spare carb
That is great
@@BrucesShop I drilled out the main jet in my power washer it runs great without the Air filter on but when I put the air filter on its surges
i new you could do it
Thanks
31 years old is like 90 years old human life , did I get that right you know what I mean ha ha !
Yes. And i still goes.
First good morning.
YEAH!!!
Wouldn't Shoe Goo work better? Haha
Got it