Kleiman makes a good case for a moderate approach and shows that not all pro-legalization legislation is created equal. Some of the comments here demonstrate that users don't care to listen to someone other than themselves.
US Drug policy works well for the Plutocracy that created it! Certain drugs were made illegal to control those certain people using those specific drugs. Illegal Drugs have been made into political vehicles for nefarious plutocrats. Why does the USA allow the Cartels to control and make billions off the illegal drug industry?! Cannabis, Psychedelics, Opiates, Cocaine & Amphetamines should be legally available recreationally& medicinally. Legal access to pharmaceutically potent & pure drugs should be an industry of the USA! The taxes on all these drugs alone would be in the trillions! We could have a universal income, universal medical & dental care so that no one would have to be homeless or poor except by their own choice. The plutocrats absolutely don’t want this to happen because it destroys their control over the majority of the wealth of the world!!
1:16:36,…where did he provide evidence for this claim? If he didn’t why make the claim? Especially if you cant back it up? I appreciate Marks intellect, his knowledge and his capacity for communicating it in specifics. I don’t appreciate flippant remarks without Reference to proven data facts, or known and proven data. These forums are important. Engagement with out youth, especially those coming up as the next generation of policy makers, is absolutely vital, critical! I cannot expound enough on the importance of extensively researched data, good data, sufficiently referenced, researched with expansive control means in place, worldwide peer reviewed multiple institutions in agreement of said information to enact legislation that serves humanity.
just ban the sale of pre-rolled cigarettes, if people wanna smoke they can roll it up themselves. sure people will probably start selling loosies but it'll be a lot harder to smoke packs on packs
Doesnt mean we should prohibit alcohol. All drugs should be legal. ALL of them-Heroin, Crack, Methamphetamine, PCP, etc.. theres no way to stop illegal use. Prohibition bolsters black markets and supports a billion dollar cartel industry. Imagine if the USA had worked with Mexico and Columbia in the 70’s & 80’s on the Cocaine trade!? Our economies for both countries would’ve shifted dramatically.
I'm against full legalization of all drugs. Full decriminalization for non-violent users, definitely. Fully legalized Meth or Opiods being sold in stores? No thanks.
@@ownageDan Okay...but decriminalization doesn't solve the problem of criminals getting rich selling the stuff on the black market and doesn't solve the problem of users overdosing on cut, impure product because they don't have access to regulated pure product.
@@ownageDan We dont have to store fromt those drugs, nor advertise. States can legalize drugs, as my state has with Psilocybin. Yup Oregon has legalized Psilocybin use, in a therapeutic context. It’s a start for legalizing everything else. Theres a decent amount of research needed to tackle this with success. The system in place now is racist and pro-plutocracy.
The FDA forbids tobacco companies from advertising non-carcinogenic tobacco products? Cancer deaths are lingering, painful and very expensive -- more health care costs for us all in the form of insurance premiums.
Even if LSD made people think they could fly (it doesnt), There has only been one recorded case of someone jumping out a window on LSD, many years ago.
Richard Alpert(Baba Ram Dass) jumped out of one of the Windows at the Millbrook Estate in the mid 1960’s. He was high on LSD and truly thought he could fly. He couldn’t, he was fortunate that he only broke his leg. I agree that LSD doesn’t, by its pharmacology, make someone fly.
I can't see why psilocybin should be criminally illegal... It should be restricted and used therapeutically but the benefits are overwhelming if used in the right setting. I see other psychedelics in the same way, DMT and psilocybin have made me a better person and have made me a spiritual person.
Why should I only be able to ise Psilocybin(or any other drug!) in a therapeutic setting?! Why couldn’t I grow my own Psilocybin or make my own in my own Lab? Why do I have to go somewhere to take it? and why supervised? Maybe alcohol should only be served at Police supervised Bars! Maybe Tobacco should only be smoked in closed supervised by cops smoke chambers!
Kleiman makes a good case for a moderate approach and shows that not all pro-legalization legislation is created equal. Some of the comments here demonstrate that users don't care to listen to someone other than themselves.
US Drug policy works well for the Plutocracy that created it!
Certain drugs were made illegal to control those certain people using those specific drugs. Illegal Drugs have been made into political vehicles for nefarious plutocrats. Why does the USA allow the Cartels to control and make billions off the illegal drug industry?!
Cannabis, Psychedelics, Opiates, Cocaine & Amphetamines should be legally available recreationally& medicinally. Legal access to pharmaceutically potent & pure drugs should be an industry of the USA! The taxes on all these drugs alone would be in the trillions! We could have a universal income, universal medical & dental care so that no one would have to be homeless or poor except by their own choice.
The plutocrats absolutely don’t want this to happen because it destroys their control over the majority of the wealth of the world!!
1:24:25,….1:24:37,…1:24:25,…1:24:48,..
These time stamps are KEY to how Law Enforcement should act, what their charge is.
Interesting alcohol statistics at 32:59
Very informative. I hope he has a book.
He has several. Unfortunately for us Mark died in 2018.
Prof. Kleiman starts at 3:24
1:16:36,…where did he provide evidence for this claim? If he didn’t why make the claim? Especially if you cant back it up?
I appreciate Marks intellect, his knowledge and his capacity for communicating it in specifics. I don’t appreciate flippant remarks without Reference to proven data facts, or known and proven data. These forums are important. Engagement with out youth, especially those coming up as the next generation of policy makers, is absolutely vital, critical! I cannot expound enough on the importance of extensively researched data, good data, sufficiently referenced, researched with expansive control means in place, worldwide peer reviewed multiple institutions in agreement of said information to enact legislation that serves humanity.
just ban the sale of pre-rolled cigarettes, if people wanna smoke they can roll it up themselves. sure people will probably start selling loosies but it'll be a lot harder to smoke packs on packs
Watch a 'Cops' marathon for a while. Obnoxious, dangerous behavior ALWAYS seems to be due to alcohol.
Doesnt mean we should prohibit alcohol. All drugs should be legal. ALL of them-Heroin, Crack, Methamphetamine, PCP, etc.. theres no way to stop illegal use. Prohibition bolsters black markets and supports a billion dollar cartel industry.
Imagine if the USA had worked with Mexico and Columbia in the 70’s & 80’s on the Cocaine trade!? Our economies for both countries would’ve shifted dramatically.
There are HUGE non profits who are trying to get ALL elicit drugs legalized. And that makes me happy
I'm against full legalization of all drugs. Full decriminalization for non-violent users, definitely. Fully legalized Meth or Opiods being sold in stores? No thanks.
@@ownageDan Okay...but decriminalization doesn't solve the problem of criminals getting rich selling the stuff on the black market and doesn't solve the problem of users overdosing on cut, impure product because they don't have access to regulated pure product.
@@ownageDan We dont have to store fromt those drugs, nor advertise. States can legalize drugs, as my state has with Psilocybin. Yup Oregon has legalized Psilocybin use, in a therapeutic context. It’s a start for legalizing everything else. Theres a decent amount of research needed to tackle this with success. The system in place now is racist and pro-plutocracy.
A guy who spends all evening drinking in a bar comes out and decides if he's sober enough to drive. Think about it.
The FDA forbids tobacco companies from advertising non-carcinogenic tobacco products? Cancer deaths are lingering, painful and very expensive -- more health care costs for us all in the form of insurance premiums.
12:58 "There is some evidence to suggest that prohibition doesn't actually reduce use..."
Wut?
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Even if LSD made people think they could fly (it doesnt), There has only been one recorded case of someone jumping out a window on LSD, many years ago.
Richard Alpert(Baba Ram Dass) jumped out of one of the Windows at the Millbrook Estate in the mid 1960’s. He was high on LSD and truly thought he could fly. He couldn’t, he was fortunate that he only broke his leg.
I agree that LSD doesn’t, by its pharmacology, make someone fly.
MDMA should be legalized
type in lucid rivers and enjoy some new music?
I'll drink to that!
... for children
... for children
I can't see why psilocybin should be criminally illegal... It should be restricted and used therapeutically but the benefits are overwhelming if used in the right setting. I see other psychedelics in the same way, DMT and psilocybin have made me a better person and have made me a spiritual person.
Why should I only be able to ise Psilocybin(or any other drug!) in a therapeutic setting?! Why couldn’t I grow my own Psilocybin or make my own in my own Lab? Why do I have to go somewhere to take it? and why supervised? Maybe alcohol should only be served at Police supervised Bars! Maybe Tobacco should only be smoked in closed supervised by cops smoke chambers!
I don't agree with all of this, but it's some good stuff to think about.