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- Want to build a high quality DIY projector screen? Check out how I built two 147" screens that look amazing for about $100 each.
Products used in this video:
Carl's FlexiGray Projector Screen Material - no longer sold on Amazon. You can still buy it direct here (bit.ly/35tIcpR) or you can buy comparable material on Amazon here: geni.us/mO62
Kreg Jig K4 Pocket Hole System: geni.us/j68Hw
Kreg Right Angle Clamp: geni.us/Xnf7
Kreg Pocket Hole Screws: geni.us/ehnV
DeWalt Compact Staple Gun: geni.us/YsGw3fp
Flat Corner Brace: geni.us/gyIfy
ProSensor 710 Franklin Stud Finder: geni.us/46Lnc
Short Throw projector (the one at my buddy's house - $647): geni.us/zLIw48
My projector (from video intro - $547): geni.us/E1mEjNP
Not Shown:
$40 Kreg Pocket Hole Jig: geni.us/OIR9pke
Kreg Jig Master System: geni.us/U4JXWA
Music in this video:
Credit: Panthurr
Track: I Think About You - You Don't Think About Me
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Credit: LiamLRY
Track: Faith
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never start on a corner. always start in the middle and do about a foot wide section. then do the opposing side pulling it tight. do the sides the same way and then keep rotating around doing the opposing sides. im sure yours came out fine, but starting in a corner can and usually does lead to wrinkles and or bunched up material at the end. have to to it like an engine block rotating and opposing sides is the best bet. as for the grey screen, you are correct. the problem with projectors in a lit room is that the light in the room washes out the dark colors. by having a grey screen, your helping the dark colors along. and theres no real sacrifice on the light colors in a dark room. kind of like priming a wall grey before painting it black or red. nice work.
Good tips. Thanks, Eric!
DIY Nils can you paint that screen material?
Craig, yes. They sell paint that acts as screen material at home depot. you just have to make sure your wall is nice and even
I was about to say same. You start at middle, do opposite side. Keep the tension and keep going.
What I like about your videos is you tell everyone what tools your using and what they cost.
In Seattle we have Tool Libraries. ..lending tool library for $20 or $30 a year. The tools are donated by that areas Resident's, or asked for donations, etc, etc
The yearly fees are used to pay for someone to be there during certain posted hours (online). And/or volunteers help with hours. And if a big enough group they will use fees to pay for a qualified expert carpenter to be on hand to help explain tool usage and/or project usage and needs -:) Also secure storage of said tools.
I built one back years ago and still use it to this day. I followed the same steps as your video but used counter top laminate instead of the screen. It's a bit more stable and easier to clean. I believe it was the Wilsonart Fashion Grey. I also built a frame and wrapped it in velvet to give a nice black edge in case I ever had overflow.
From an upholsterers frame of mind (pun intended), you should staple in the very center of every board, and then start working your stretch from center out on both top and bottom, and then finally the sides, same manner, center out. This method of applying fabric to any frame almost always guarantees that there will be no wrinkles or unintended pleating, especially if you are not working with stretch friendly fabric like you've shown.
I have stretched a stack of canvas for painting on same principle of what you have made, one thing i always do is start stapling fro the middle on all four sides this way you can pull out any kinks or loose spots . Works for me every time.
I went to the fabric store and bought Curtain backer (blackout) for $4.19/yd. which works really well also.
Black Felt on the outer frame itself, can "hide" any light bleed over, and also adds a nice touch to the frame (in most environments)
Carl's also sells a black velvet tape in 2"-4" thicknesses that makes a great high contrast border and allows you a little wiggle room in the event that you have some unevenness (where you'd need to use the keystone function) and want to blow up the image a bit to take up the whole screen.
If you cut a 45 degree angle on the bottom side of the top rail of the screen frame, you could hang it like a french cleat. It would probably be more secure than resting it on the head of two screws.
Great idea!
Screws are a bit getto
@@chrisdechristophe Just make your own video this is your second post of criticism.
I used your 2 screw method to hang the frame(without screen on yet) and added additional "french cleat" support between the 2 middle supports. Was easier to get it level with it already leveled on screws. Thanks for your video. I see is has helped quite a few people over the years as it did me.
I just bought a $100 pull down 100 inch screen from Amazon.ca. Looks great, and it's nice that you can pull it down part way for 2.40 movies, so there are no black bars. Plus it's in front of my TV, so it's nice to have it roll up for TV watching.
I’m so glad I watched this. A different video had a really complicated system for hanging the screen that almost derailed me from the project. This looks like the way to go. Thanks for the simple explanation!
this is a great video! im moving and debating between a projector and 75 in.... im going to go 60-65 and make one of these!!! your a live saver my friend movie night will never be the same!!!
Thanks, Tory! I fully agree - movie night with a huge projected image like this is fantastic. We get way more use out of our basement than I think we otherwise would because it's a great setup.
I'm not entirely sure why I watched this: I don't have a projector and don't need a screen, but you did a great job showing the process. Well done - my only tip would be to stretch the screen like you would a canvas over stretchers -- it'll help make sure things start off and STAY tight for many years. :)
First, great video. Planning to get a projector for a basement home theater. Looking for a good screen design. Second, I'm amazed by how many people don't have tools based on their comments. Seems like all you NEED is a saw, a drill, a screwdriver, and a staple gun. Do't most guys have these in their garage? Third, is Carl's still in business? All of their items show "not available".
I use the wall in my room which is a grayish white color and super fine grain paint... Works great, but I enjoyed the video....
For the screen you can get fpr abpit $90 is "Carl’s FlexiGray, Projector Screen Material, High Contrast Gray (16:9 | 71x126 | 144-in | Rolled) HD/High-Definition, In/Outdoor Projection Screen, Portable Movie Screen, Low Ambient Light, Grey"
It's a roll. If you look you can build easily a 1x4" frame with a pocket hole system and go as big as you need (125" 16:9, there are many other variations).
I mean I guess $100 for a screen vs paying whatever this projector costs (I didn't see the cost, I'm guessing 30+K??).
I like projectors but hell they are more expensive than a TV, which at times doesn't make sense considering the amount of material in a tv vs a projector. I don't know crap about it though, feel like marketing tricks to me!
I highly recommend getting the sample pack from this brand of screen material, it's 8.5x11 sections of all their options that you can use to compare what each looks like.
add a black felt border to that and you're all set! looks great
I guess youtubes new algorithm is working alright. Beautiful video! Glad I found this channel.
looks great I'll be sure to check that screen company. You could also use a biscuit cutter and dados on the joints, that would keep them perfectly flush and add some strength.
I would suggest that for a crisp edge to the image, it would be better to put some "masking" around the edges. To achieve this, I'd actually create two frames, the inner one that you created here today, and an outer frame which is just the outside edges. The outside frame (which would sit proud of the rear frame) would be wrapped in a non light reflective black velvet like material. This would give a lovely clean edge to the images and also hide any unsightly edges on the screen material.
I love the simple install. I suggest you might usa french cleat made from a 1 x 4 and back light it leds. Awsome project
Nice job! I built one using the same design with a 2:35 aspect ~130" screen I also wanted to matte the edges so I used some wide hook/loop Velcro tape (just the smooth felt side) and stuck that around the edge of the frame. Looks really nice. Well done!
Wow, just Wow, i dont think id ever go back to a television after owning the Optoma HD131XE, such beautiful vivid colours, versatility and huge screen size, also no worry ever of screen burn, going back to a tv would be silly, (OLED Sucks) however, convincing the wife to buy one is always hard work. And yes, 50% black to 50% white mix is the ultimate colour for projector screens, this is why CRT televisions had a grey crt
This is an AWESOME video. My screen would be 9-10 Feet by 250-300 Inches in width.
I found one for 40 bucks on Amazon; saved me a lot of time and money
when building the frame glue the unions for a much stronger frame, in the end is only a couple of dlls for the wood glue and it makes it much stronger, clean the runs with a damped cloth at building time...
Nice assembly, but as a recommendation, a spline/channel lock system is much easier than stapling and does less damage to material.
Great video, going to try this myself this weekend..
I use the wall £0 dollars 😀
Spiderfly me too, no creases either 😅😅
Spiderfly seriously
Wiley T
GD8R ONE .
Use a white sheet and rear projection works well actually
if you want even cheaper, Carls blackout cloth (white) works great. A roll long enough to make a 110" screen was about 30$ on amazon.... then probably 10$ for the wood and L brackets from home depot.
I would strongly recommend to everyone watching, if you are going to be doing a screen and using carls, they have a sample pack. GET THE SAMPLE PACK!! You can even ask them to sub out one or two sample for some of their AT screen material if you're doing that. Granted, most DIY folks here aren't to an AT level yet but seriously, get the samples. Then, use some white masking tape (other colors and painters tape will throw your eyes off) and place multiple samples, maybe 3 at a time max, up on the wall and project against those. Each type of material has pros and cons, and works different depending on your projector and your ambient light. You'll never really know what will work best for your situation, especially if you don't have 100% control of your lighting. Then watch a movie that has multiple colors and is kind of vivid but also with good contrast levels, not something that;s like all the same color like mad max lol. You;ll be able to compare directly between wall and each material type. Then you can get the proper screen for your situation. Try viewing at multiple times a day if you don't have full control of the light in the room.
There's a few things you should dowith putting the screen on, don't remember if you mentioned them. First, sand all the screen facing edges so they are flush. Wood isn't perfect but you can make it so lol. Then, when putting it on, start in the middle of one side, do some, then go opposite of that, do some, then do the other two sides the same way and work around. I know someone else said that but I hung vinyl signs for a few years, big 30-50 foot bastards on high-rises, thats exactly how the pros do it. Finally, when you have the face done do a felt border, it's not required but will help with bleeding and gives you a solid edge tricking your eyes into slightly better contrast levels.
To finish it on the wall, I'd usually recommend a slotted L shape bracket instead of using the hang on a screw method. 4 brackets on the same stud you put the screws on but on the outside part. I suggest slotted because you can make minor adjustments to get the perfect height and level. If you're off just a bit with your screws it will be hard to get another screw hole so close but just different enough to correct the problems with the first hole. If you have access to an unfinished ceiling still you can even hang it with string from the ceiling to line it up and then put in your brackets, this is handy if youre trying to perfectly hang a 120+ inch screen by yourself.
If you guys want to jump in and see just how far the rabbit hole goes, go to AVSforum and check out their guides and build paths, Once you start down this path it's very easy to want to get the best home cinema you can lol
I would suggest a movie with a bright colorful scene with some blacks in it that slowly pans side to side, this way you can see the same frame of reference on each sample sheet and get a good idea for how certain colors will look on each one. If you place them too far apart they will get different parts of the scene which could be lit differently and will throw you off looking for the best fit.
This a really great video. Now do a rear projection screen please.
I dont know... In this case you could've just painted the wall. It's better to let the screen come out from the wall some more and use other materials for the frame like something "thicker" I think, just to add some dept and let it come out from the back wall some more. Also you should either add some black velvet at the edges of the screen or project the image all the way to the edges. Grey colour don't add any contrast. It just messes up the colors and the white level. So you could try and paint the screen with a mixure of white and metallic silver to get higher contrast. There are a couple of popular recepies put there, but it could also mess up the colors though. This guide don't cover if you're going with a non streatchable fabric. Maybe you should add a word about that.
Lol I should've read the title better.
Charvel S same
Charvel S Me too
I thought I was going to learn how to build a whole home theater for my self including the projector :(
$100 is still sick for a large projector screen like that!
or just get some projector screen paint.
Around $88 (maybe less if your thrifty) for a can and save some scratch and no lumber to buy or cut.
If you have the projector, you can project it on anything. Anyone else expecting the projector to be part of this DIY project?
Love The Drill With Flashlight 👍🏻
Awesome project! Very simple and profetional looking! Thank you for sharing!
Love this.. have you done a video on how to DYI a seating system if you have two to three layers of seats?
I said over 10 years ago that projectors were the future of home media viewing, and it seems with the new technology including holographic, better lumens, UHD, etc. it could still happen, guess we'll see.
i was almost did this myself. i was going to go with the same carl gray screen. but amazon has the 120inch motorized one for just $100 bucks. since i have a tv behind it, it made send to go motorized. but when i own a home and have an actual theater room ill want to go this route.
Carl's also sells the ALR ambient light rejection material which works much better.
I used a white blackout shade for my theater room. whole setup for the projecter, the screen, and the mount costed about 150 bucks😀😀
That was pretty awesome! Thanks for the tutorial, man! Keep 'em comin!
Amazing channel bro, keep it up!
Nice... I'm doing this for my kids play room...
this video is nice I think I'm gonna take my TV off the wall now and use that but my living room I think is too small for that
Donnie Harris if you've got a small room buy a benq 1080st it's short throw so you can project an image on the wall from 3 feet away
More like a $500 screen with all those tools needed, still awesome!
The tools can add to the cost if you don't have them but you can also do everything shown here with a $30 staple gun, a hand saw and a screw driver. If you had none of those, it would cost about $50 in tools. The mitre saw and pocket holes are just niceties that I already had.
Please make a screen for outdoors.
Vandersteen's. Nice.
Going with grey screen was my biggest noob mistake. You neither get blacks nor whites. It's just a bad compromise. No one watches a projector with external light sorces anyways. There are only two options. A white screen or a high contrast/ALR screen that can output pure whites. Otherwise the picture will look lifeless. If you cant control ambient light from near walls, celing or floor you have to go with a high contrast screen. Just get vinyl car wrap material, 1,5x3 meters, matt silver and attach it to any kind of board material instead. Be sure to have at least 1,5:1 trow ratio. The higher ratio the better to avoid vinjetting and hot spotting. Try a few samples before you decide what vinyl to go with.
To get it as cheap as possible you could try buliding a thin frame like you did in the video and glue a thin hard board/masonite board to get it as plain as possoble and attach the vinyl to that. The total cost shouldnt be more than 100-150 usd depending on the brand of vinyl used.
The link to the $40 pocket hole is wrong. It goes to the staple gun. Good video.
Thanks for the heads up! I fixed that in the description. Here's the link: amzn.to/2iImo28.
looks identical as to when it was just shinning on the wall. lol
WesT Fitness - true, the screen disperses the "hotspot" and u can't see that from the viewing angle.
Nope. Its brighter than the wall (among other things). The camera has some kind of auto exposure, that dims the video, but you can tell by looking at how dark the wall gets when the screen goes up.
Excellent video Nils. After hanging the screen I noticed that the measurements you took were the dimensions of the inside of the 1 x 4 frame. Which is nice because it leaves a boarder. So to finish it off, will you ultimately lay 4" strips of black felt over the edges? I understand that a black board will absorb the light and make for a crisper picture toward the edges.
On my buddy's screen we built it larger than we needed so he could add a border to it, like a black felt border border for absorbing light. When I built mine, I made it as close to the edge as I could, like you see in the beginning of the video, since I didn't plan on adding the border to it. I may change that later but I wasn't sure how much space I'd have to work with. Adding the light absorbing border helps your eyes take in all the contrast of the screen portion, so it is a good idea. Thanks for watching!
i agree that it doesnt look any better but having a optima projector i use all the time im also aware that video of a projection never shows the true quality ot brightness. im pretty sure it makes a big difference because white was reflect alot of the light but i beleive projector screens absorb it or stop it throwing light around as much
Man this is awesome. That looks great.
So here’s a question not to second-guess you guys or anything but is there a reason why you didn’t just buy the projector paint and tape off and paint out a 16:9 rectangle on the wall? That’s what my brother did and there was less hassle and it looks pretty good because it’s seamless.
Awesome project man!
any chance you have a video on how to build the unit that is around it. That what drew my attention in the first place
Unfortunately I did not film my build of the shelving units but I love how they turned out. I may be doing some other built-ins in my house in the not too distant future and will be filming them if I do. Stay tuned!
Looks dope!
I think it was awesome. such a great job.
Thanks!
loved it...very cost effective Nils!
I am thinking of opening my own projector screen company, it will have the latest in screen technology. Basically it will be an empty frame with nothing stretched over it and you will just frame your own wall paint. I am going to call this company 'Placebo Screens'.
I'd love to do this but carl ain't delivering to the UK 😔
a lot of people just use the wall lol... doesn't look that much different, maybe a bit more defined with a screen. using the wall makes for a handy method of moving the projector too. 4k movies look much better with the projector closer, then again so does everything. most people don't even use their receiver to upscale the content to 4k. not that hard to turn everything to 4k... maybe 10 to 30 seconds of settings on a hdcp 2.2 receiver. Then watch your cable tv in 4k! never going to be as good as real UHD blu ray movies but hardly anyone can tell the difference.
Can I paint my green projector screen black so it becomes grey-ish color in order to have a better picture?
There's other places here where you can rent tools as well..larger box stores where they sell tools etc -:)
Hi Nils, after watching your video planning to build the projector screen myself, explained in-detail. I got the same "FlexiGray Projector Screen Material", 145 Inch. Can you please share the Cut measurements for 1X4
Hi, Mohamed. On mine the vertical 1x4s measure 63” long and the horizontals are 123”. The horizontals run the full length while the verticals are sandwiched between the horizontals.
@@LRN2DIY Thank you for the Quick reply
Hey friend, you are very similar to kimi Raikkonen...jiji good job is a nice projet thank you.
I would have made a french cleat system instead of just screws to mount it i get the frame is pretty light but you may get some sag eventually
That's a pretty great idea! I might have to try that as an upgrade to this one.
Last thing is the cleat that goes on the wall might need to be thinner wood so it doesn't press on the against the screen
Do not use any gray material or white screen. Specially not a bed sheet or regular wall. Make sure you get the right amount of gain on the screen for your specific projector and room's light.
waltcruz it's a DIY project, he's not concerning those on a tight budget with screen gain.
The1andonlyBYack you can buy good quality diamond black material for about £40 off eBay it's what I used to make my screen ,the most expensive part of my build I found was the black out tape for the edge ,£30 for a roll off eBay ,but I managed to build 120" widescreen screen for about £100
The1andonlyBYack you can build quality screens for about £100 $130
TMCicuurd12b42 I built mine about 3/4 years ago and only paid about £50 for the material off eBay ,$250 is way over the odds for the cloth ,as it's always been readily available to purchase on eBay at a good price if you don't mind building your own screen
Someone just said they used a grey bedsheet from Walmart and it worked fine. They also make screen paint if you just wanna slap some paint on your wall.
That's really awesome!
Thanks, at the intro the top left corner seems to be off, I'm assuming it's the projector and not the screen.
Good job
Very easy steps. Thank you guys 👍
What about the black out tape for the edge
I've just been looking into doing that. I like the idea of just using gaffer tape for this, since it would be a really easy addition.
DIY Nils use the proper black out tape as it's a velvet finish and absorbs any reflective light ,really does make a big difference to overall finish
David Smith
can you explain what black out tape is?
black out tape is the black velvet boarder that runs round the edge of your screen it cleans it up and gives your projection area a clean focused edge and traps any over spill of light
just check my video out on you tube of my 1080st you'll see what I mean
Good job on this built. Can u do a video on projector $200 for best native 1080p? Not too many 4K movies , so why not choose the best native 1080p?
You are the best teacher omg love the work I'm gonna do you I just orders my projector..
Having your vertical and horizontal dimensions taken you surely do not need to take diagonal one taken ... unless you went to primary school really long time ago :)
Gregory Radek Its just for bragging rights.
is that a pro sensor stud finder 710 Franklin or what kind is that? seems like it makes life a little easier instead of the beep stud finder
That's amazing I wish I could what you do. Keep up the good work !!!!!
That's really cool!
I thnk that funky clamp already costs more than 100 bucks
Super cool
What are the staple pins size
Any tips on doing something like this but a portable version for outdoor viewing that can be collapsed down to take with you?
i did it and its great.
thanks, i know now i wont by a premade one. great vid.
What kind of fabric is being used here for the screen? Does it sag under its own weight over time/because of temp differences through the year?
thank you very much it's very helpful for bur can you send the list if I can find it here in Brazil.
Great Video 🤗👍
What type of projector is that your friend has because I see when you walked across it didn't show your shadow. I would love that projector!!!
It's an Optoma short throw. Links are in the description. Yeah - short throw technology is pretty amazing.
Keep doing these videos! Awesome work! Good knowledge. Thank you. Single mom here on diy tasks.
Of course I like it, man you are pro...
Awesome, will try this! 👍🏼
that was awesome 😊
Can I get the exact measurements on these, like the length of each piece
very nice