Billy Burke, Claudette Colbert, and Hattie Mc Daniel were the ones that surprised me the most. My grandfather, who worked for the studios back in the day as a backdrop scenic painter, the stories he told my dad would shock you even today.
God knows what is wrong. If he is angry about it, well in Hebrews chapter 10 Bible Scripture reveals its a Terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God!
Most of this women on this video I wasn't shocked about, especially Joan Crawford. I was very shocked about Hattie McDaniel and Barbara Stanwyck being gay. I'm like wow!!!!😊😊😊
This dude couldn't get the movie title correct? It's 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane'! He must throw these videos together very quickly and doesn't proofread. This is why I don't believe most of the info he puts out.
Because he doesn’t write them he just does the voice work . The channel is from a content farm. Also, he mispronounces Marlene as Marleen all the time.
One comment Crawford made on the subject was that most everyone in Hollywood ‘at least tried it’. There was a code of silence among those people; there was nothing to be gained by outing anyone - especially if you’d ‘been down the garden path’ yourself. Seems to have been a mutual blackmail society.
@@TheConcludingChapterofCrawford the book ‘’Conversations with Joan Crawford’’. Notable mainly for her commenting on every one of her pictures. And admitting she ‘lacked empathy’ which explains a lot.
Marlene is pronounced Mar - lain - ah, and the movie with Joan Crawford and Bette Davis is "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane" not Mary Jane as you stated.
this dude, or whoever runs this channel, cannot be trusted. in their "Little Rascals, how everyone died" video, he says that Robert Blake was convicted of murdering his wife and is "still in prison until this day"... Blake was acquitted and is still alive and not in prison. do jot believe this hype for likes person/channel. cannot be trusted, as the comments are disabled on that particular video. it should be taken down. shady stuff
Yeah, I was surprised about Billie Burke considering she was married to Florence Zigfeld until he died, had a child with him and considered him the love of her life. There was even a movie made about their romance.
Do we really have to know this ? Hattie MacDaniel and Tallulaq Bankhead ! ! ! Come on, give me a break - please. That would be the 'odd couple' of all-time .
Have you never walked into a gay bar? On top of that, Tallulah was a nympho. She once went to a school in England and smuggled a bunch of underage boys out in her car and had "relations" with them. Look it up... she was promiscuous beyond
Edward Dmytryk directed Stanwyck in Walk on the Wild Side. Barbara, as always, giving 150%. She has a superb scene with beautiful Capucine. Anger, jealousy & hidden love. Damn... This Brooklyn girl was an absolute disciplinarian workoholic and such a great actress.
she was incredible, her filmography has sm variety, haven’t yet seen an old hollywood actress ( or actor for that matter ) who played such different roles, her talent and the great choice of not being under contract with a studio
Lgb and that’s it … what does the t has to do with sexual orientation ? Back then it didn’t nearly exist , it was incredibly rare that someone was pretending to be the opposite sex . I don’t know why it seems like obsolete to simply say for gays and lesbians or for homosexual people , instead of “lgbtqi plus alphabet “ , especially when we talk of things of the past when most of those made up letters didn’t even exists
@@TheRetroWoman80 true. Tracy used to hook up with guys when he was drunk enough. If he wasn't drunk he couldn't deal with beeing a devoute catholic and still sleeping with men.
The narrator claims that Joan Crawford starred in “Whatever Happened to Mary Jane?” It’s nonsense, but would explain what happened to the infamous Joan Crawford pumps.
As my pappy used to say "As long as they don't do it in the street and scare the horses." I couldn't give a rats patootie if someone in gay or straight, just keep your private life private.
Problem with keeping private life private "back in the day" and now: ever-intrusive, uncontrolled gossip media prying into every hole and corner. Paparazzi should be liable whenever outrageous stories appear.
Wish straight people would do the same damn thing! Been brainwashed by heterosexual everything since I was little. It's any wonder I didn't grow up straight honestly lol.
Same here, but she owed a lot to adorable Colleen Moore, who was a huge box office star in the twenties. A lot of people sadly do not know, but MOMA through negligence accidentally destroyed so many of Colleen's films. Colleen has the beauty of a Lulu with more playfulness and soul and an energy like Clara Bow.
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@@AladdinSaneNYC Totally! A great reference for these stories is in Scotty Bowers book "Full Service", and there's a great documentary on him and the book that you can find online or purchase on Amazon. Plus, the Netflix series by Ryan Murphy "Hollywood" is loosely based on Scotty Bowers exploit with it's gas station setting and story of male hustlers. Less credible (perhaps) is the gossip book "Hollywood Babylon" by the legendary cult film director Kenneth Anger. A lot of the stories were sordid and heavily disputed (naturally, being so explosive), but it's a fascinating read. Even if the stories aren't true they are so sensational.
It’s crazy to me that Tallulah Bankhead and Hattie McDaniel were lovers, because it’s such an odd pair, but that’s so cool!! I’m such a fan of both of them.
There was book release by a well know procurer with lot of Hollywoid secrets. Some info would blow the minds of those that were big fans of certain stars. Some of what he said was old dark rumors. But one things back then studios protected the imagine of their stars.
What about Katherine Hepburn's longterm relationship with Spencer Tracy? The story goes that Spencer Tracy was married, but he was also Catholic, so he wouldn't divorce his wife and, ofcourse, couldn't marry Katherine. Their relationship(affair) lasted 3 decades, so it's kinda doubtful she had time for other liaisons. Jackie Gleason was in a similar situation and had mistresses.
I remember hearing about him and June Taylor who was the head of the dance group on his show. Don’t know if she was his wife or girlfriend. Please clarify if you know.
They say Crawford tried to have a go at Bette Davis and she got short shrift. As you say Crawford was maneater and the same with women , I call these people greedy, they want it all.
Crawford's apparent words regarding Bette were "I'd give her a poke" 😅 Bette was hetero though so no luck for Joan. I'd have not been able to turn down Crawford, personally but only in her pre-slug brows, overdrawn lips era. The 1920's blond Joan... aye yi yi
Back then gays were treated unbelievable..Makes me so sad to think so many were mistreated and not able to be who they are and love whom they did .. one of the best documentary that is so beautiful is on Netflix .. called a secret love.. I’m from Rockford, Il which if that rings a bell it’s Rockford Peaches, A league of their own is a movie about the women baseball teams.. One of the woman was gay and fell in love with another girl in 1940’s… they were together 70’s years and got married in 2010 I believe .. it was so beautiful but because of women like then and others who went through hell pathed the way for woman today.. I’m not saying it’s easy on lesbians but surely a lot better than back then and I pray when my kids kids grow up it won’t be an issue at all.. love is love ! Always be true to yourself!
“Full Service” by Scotty Bowers, having out lived his friends, just wanted to make everyone happy. He survived Iwo Jima, losing his brother and best friend. Bartender to the Stars for over 60 years.
That documentary was not surprising but how long that open secret stuff went on without people's careers getting destroyed....amazing. Like Scotty said "they are all dead now so the truth can't hurt them."
When gossip is the main goal climbing upon rumors as supposedly facts is completely disgusting and shows when a dirty mind is also sick. Those who try to smear are the ones who show their true colors.
I think you only touched the tip of the iceberg with this subject. There are definitely actresses that you didn't cover in here. I think Lillian Gish was wasn't she?
"Secretly" due to the then-immense stigma against same-sex attraction. Sometimes-extreme actions of those so inclined (e.g. Liberace) were in reaction that dreadful standard.
Anything possible in secret The big names you mentioned bio,and all of them beautiful and attractive for men I'm waiting for Elizabeth Taylor's name. She's not on the list 😂
Hepburn and Tracy never were sexual toward each other; he preferred men and she preferred women. As for Barbara Stanwyck, she was married to Robert Taylor. They too, preferred individuals of their own sex; Barbara - women and Taylor - men. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott were a long time item and they lived together on the beach. Grant got married to protect his image and career.
According to some sources. A lot of this is rumor and hearsay. Or based on books written by people claiming to have had same-sex relationships with some of the people named in this video. A lot of the Tracey stuff comes from a guy who was a male hooker in Hollywood who wrote a book and starred in a documentary claiming Tracey was gay, and was also one of his clients. The hooker also hinted that Hepburn was a lesbian, rather than the bisexual that she had long been rumored to be. It seems likely Hepburm was one or the other, but I don't know how much of a "GOSPEL" the male Hollywood hooker should be taken as. It's pretty much-accepted fact among historians that Garbo/Crawford/Dietrich were bisexual. And that Barbara Stanwyck was either bisexual or lesbian. And Bankhead made no secret of her bisexuality. As far as a lot of the women this video mentions as being among their lovers (including Claudette Colbert/Hattie McDaniel, Billie Burke), that is just based on what was rumor, gossip, and hearsay. Maybe it's all true and maybe it's not. Mercedes De Acosta was a well-established Hollywood screenwriter in the 1930s and 1940s, and she was an out lesbian. She wrote a book claiming she had affairs with several famous actresses (movie stars and theater stars) of that day, including Greta Garbo and Marlene Dietrich. Both of who denied the claim
@@keythdanielsen9315 A lot of the Grant stuff comes from the fact that in the 1930s and 1940s Grant often lived with Randolph Scott when he wasn't married. And it was apparently a well-known "Secret" in Hollywood that Grant liked men. There is supposedly a quote from a female star (I forget who) from that period, who supposedly said, "EVERYBODY IN HOLLYWOOD KNOWS CARY GRANT LIKES MEN" However, it's probably more likely that he was bisexual rather than gay. For instance In the 1950s Grant had a romance with Sophia Loren, who had a longstanding boyfriend (who become her husband). People close to Grant always said Grant was deeply in love with Loren and very much devastated when she ultimately chose her future husband over him. And a writer who wrote a biography of Grant came to the conclusion that he was bisexual. That writer also said that Grant was pretty much done with men as he got older. Which would include the time of his marriage to Dyan Cannon. .
Tracy and Hepburn did have a sexual affair at first, but stayed together to beard for each other. Hepburn largely preferred woman. Tracy took whatever.
Many people are posting interesting comments, which begs the question, What is gay? If one lusts after people of the same sex but never have sex with someone of the same sex are they gay? What if someone just likes to have sex with people of the same sex, but do not tend to fall in love with people of the opposite sex? What if someone just likes to sleep around, period? Male, female, whatever? Doesn't care? A term often used by heath care agents is MSM, men who have sex with other men. Why? Because some men have sex with other men, but claim to be straight. Are they lying? See, these are the issues that confuse people, both straight and LGBT. This is also what makes being LGBT different than being pretty much any other type of minority.
Joan Crawford was the most surprising too me. Hepburn would be the second surprise. I always thought these two were only into men. One learns something new everyday as they say. 😀 While not a famous Hollywood Actress as women mentioned in this. Lily Tomlin who starred with Dolly Parton in 9 to 5 is a lesbian and has been living with another woman for sometime.
I don't know what's wrong, but I have slowed down the playback speed on this video all the way back to 25%. It still is playing at 100% speed. Way to fast to read! Suddenly at about 20seconds the speed changed and slowed down. A little later the speed picked up pace again. I tried to change the speed again, but the information was speeding ut didn't slow down. It was finally easier to pause and restart multiple times
No surprise, really, that nearly everyone in the acting profession's gay, lesbian or bi - and much more. It seems to be their nature to swing either way or bat for both sides, especially with all the opportunity afforded them to explore different characters and the human condition.
Do a video: VD of the stars. These stars were co- mingling with each some much, they must have been passing VD between them. Was their the flynn gonorrhea or Mickey Rooney crabs 🦀?
In my opinion, women being bisexual is completely normal and has been for hundreds of thousands of years. Just realize we have been polygamous marriages for hundreds of thousands of years.
How can you be sure of any when we live in an age of dishonest reports and those craving for viewers? Anyway, if a person or celebrity is or isn't is not the public's right to know. Since when did it become important to know others personal interests? I have done extensive research on the human character and have discovered that a person's sexual preference and orientation can be revealed by a few features upon the face. Having said that, if the public had access to this knowledge, they would roll over to find the hidden truth of the most masculine of men and the most voluptuous of women prefer the same sex. But in this great age of empowerment and inclusion, Why the urgency to get the goods ,pun intended.? To slander, bring down character, etc . Not for inclusion . Man can never be fixed until he fixes himself. To be inclusive, women included.
There was a lot of sleeping around in Hollywood by both sexes, with both sexes. That doesn’t mean there was actually a romance, though. A well known female entertainer slept with multiple women (and men), but only had what could be called a romance with one of the women. As soon as she found a man she fancied, the female romance was over. Happened the other way, too.
You did NOT just say, “Whatever Happened to Mary Jane.” That must have been Baby Jane’s poor cousin twice removed.
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It was Baby Jane’s doobie
Yeah I caught that too ! 🤪
Guess Joan must have smoked pot. LOL.
@Stevebaby123 Facts Verse has a great reputation for getting the "facts" WRONG! Bunch of idiots behind this channel!
Billy Burke, Claudette Colbert, and Hattie Mc Daniel were the ones that surprised me the most. My grandfather, who worked for the studios back in the day as a backdrop scenic painter, the stories he told my dad would shock you even today.
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Hattie McDaniel was a big surprise I never heard that about her.
The one that shocked me was Hattie MacDaniel. I really don't know weather to believe all of this' bull-shit" or not.
These are guesses. They don't have a right to say they were gay unless they know for sure.
I'm not. She and most female early blues singers were.
@@bgaineshunter Indeed. Including Ethel Waters, Bessie Smith, and Alberta Hunter.
Barbara Stanwyk! My in-laws watch "Christmas in Connecticut" almost every holiday season. Quite a screen presence!
One of my favorite movies.
Yes and very beautiful.
God knows what is wrong. If he is angry about it, well in Hebrews chapter 10 Bible Scripture reveals its a Terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God!
Most of this women on this video I wasn't shocked about, especially Joan Crawford. I was very shocked about Hattie McDaniel and Barbara Stanwyck being gay. I'm like wow!!!!😊😊😊
I knew about Barbara Stanwyck, first time I heard about Hattie McDaniel.
Yeah That’s hard to believe Hattie McDowell and did he say Billie holiday Barbara Stanwyck I’m not going with that you got to bring some proof🙄
Joan Crawford, known for her appearance in "What Ever Happened to MARY Jane???"
This dude couldn't get the movie title correct? It's 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane'! He must throw these videos together very quickly and doesn't proofread. This is why I don't believe most of the info he puts out.
And Marlene Dietrich's first name has 3 syllables.
Because he doesn’t write them he just does the voice work . The channel is from a content farm. Also, he mispronounces Marlene as Marleen all the time.
Joan Crawford didn't have the most happy demeanor. If anything, Joan Crawford ATE Mary Jane.
One comment Crawford made on the subject was that most everyone in Hollywood ‘at least tried it’. There was a code of silence among those people; there was nothing to be gained by outing anyone - especially if you’d ‘been down the garden path’ yourself. Seems to have been a mutual blackmail society.
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Joan Crawford NEVER said that. Source???
@@TheConcludingChapterofCrawford the book ‘’Conversations with Joan Crawford’’. Notable mainly for her commenting on every one of her pictures. And admitting she ‘lacked empathy’ which explains a lot.
@@robertdoherty2001 That is also a FAKE book. I have interviewed the children of Roy Newquist, the writer of that book, and it is entirely fabricated.
Hadn’t heard that; there are quite a few of them around.
Marlene is pronounced Mar - lain - ah, and the movie with Joan Crawford and Bette Davis is "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane" not Mary Jane as you stated.
You caught that one too.
I love Mary Jane shoes 🤣
And it's Judy Holiday, not Judy Hollywood.
Tim doesn't proofread his content often.
Thanks for the correction
this dude, or whoever runs this channel, cannot be trusted. in their "Little Rascals, how everyone died" video, he says that Robert Blake was convicted of murdering his wife and is "still in prison until this day"... Blake was acquitted and is still alive and not in prison. do jot believe this hype for likes person/channel. cannot be trusted, as the comments are disabled on that particular video. it should be taken down. shady stuff
Yeah, I was surprised about Billie Burke considering she was married to Florence Zigfeld until he died, had a child with him and considered him the love of her life. There was even a movie made about their romance.
Do we really have to know this ? Hattie MacDaniel and Tallulaq Bankhead ! ! ! Come on, give me a break - please. That would be the 'odd couple' of all-time .
Yeah that’s hard to believe you got to bring more proof than that just hearsay and Billie holiday too🙄
Have you never walked into a gay bar? On top of that, Tallulah was a nympho. She once went to a school in England and smuggled a bunch of underage boys out in her car and had "relations" with them. Look it up... she was promiscuous beyond
The vomit couple of all time.
Edward Dmytryk directed Stanwyck in Walk on the Wild Side. Barbara, as always, giving 150%.
She has a superb scene with beautiful Capucine. Anger, jealousy & hidden love.
Damn... This Brooklyn girl was an absolute disciplinarian workoholic and such a great actress.
Stanwyck was the best one in that movie.
@@hcombs0104"What do you know about love!"- she passionate said to her crippled husband.
Her true love has left her...Hallie.
she was incredible, her filmography has sm variety, haven’t yet seen an old hollywood actress ( or actor for that matter ) who played such different roles, her talent and the great choice of not being under contract with a studio
I was surprised to hear about Hattie and Tullulah.
Not so much about Tullulah, she is known for her seductive nature.
I don’t believe the bit about Hattie McDaniel and tallulah Bankhead.
Hattie McDaniel was a shock to say the least. Others no surprise.
"What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?" is the movie Joan Crawford and Bette Davis starred in.
Judy Hollywood? Try Holliday. Try having someone proof your scripts.
Its "what ever happened to Baby Jane", not Mary Jane
The poor guy has copped a lot of crap about that!
Tallulah Bankhead was the ultimate sybarite. But she was also a very good actress.
Too many are even today but are afraid with consequences
That's why they call it HOLLYWIERD.
Nothing wrong with being bisexual
Yea right!
Lgb and that’s it … what does the t has to do with sexual orientation ? Back then it didn’t nearly exist , it was incredibly rare that someone was pretending to be the opposite sex . I don’t know why it seems like obsolete to simply say for gays and lesbians or for homosexual people , instead of “lgbtqi plus alphabet “ , especially when we talk of things of the past when most of those made up letters didn’t even exists
No mention of whether the Hepburn Tracy “romance” never actually was a romance?
According to Scotty Bowers' book Full Service, that was story presented to the public. Tracy and Hepburn were, at the very least, bisexual.
@@TheRetroWoman80 true. Tracy used to hook up with guys when he was drunk enough. If he wasn't drunk he couldn't deal with beeing a devoute catholic and still sleeping with men.
@@normadesmond6017 Yep
Beautiful talented woman.
I can see it for just about all actresses on the list. Greta Garbo and Joan Crawford are surprising.
Greta Garbo I didn't know, Joan Crawford I have known for sometime.
really? Not Garbo? Look at Queen Christina. There was a lesbian scene in that one.
The narrator claims that Joan Crawford starred in “Whatever Happened to Mary Jane?” It’s nonsense, but would explain what happened to the infamous Joan Crawford pumps.
The movie title was “What ever happened to BABY Jane” (not Mary Jane).
As my pappy used to say "As long as they don't do it in the street and scare the horses." I couldn't give a rats patootie if someone in gay or straight, just keep your private life private.
Problem with keeping private life private "back in the day" and now: ever-intrusive, uncontrolled gossip media prying into every hole and corner. Paparazzi should be liable whenever outrageous stories appear.
Wish straight people would do the same damn thing! Been brainwashed by heterosexual everything since I was little. It's any wonder I didn't grow up straight honestly lol.
That does go both ways
I was surprised to hear of Hattie McDaniel.
Whatever happened to MARY Jane? Yikes!
I love Louise Brooks. Wish I had known her.
Beautiful Lulu... opening the Pandora's box.
Same here, but she owed a lot to adorable Colleen Moore, who was a huge box office star in the twenties. A lot of people sadly do not know, but MOMA through negligence accidentally destroyed so many of Colleen's films. Colleen has the beauty of a Lulu with more playfulness and soul and an energy like Clara Bow.
I am reminded of one of Paul Newman's most famous lines from "Slapshot!"
If you're not familiar, watch it and you'll understand.
Seriously? Dude can’t pronounce Dietrich’s name correctly, and doesn’t bother to get the iconic movie title correct? Mary Jane? Unbelievable.
He also said Judy Hollywood. I think he meant Holiday.
Great video!
Please, please, please make one for Old Hollywood Men Who Secretly Slept With Other Men!
Glad you like the video! We won't promise anything but we'll definitely look into Old Hollywood Men Who Secretly Slept With Other Men.
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@@ellejay2021 you forgot Chuck Connors.
But Robert Taylor? Really? 🤔
@@AladdinSaneNYC Totally! A great reference for these stories is in Scotty Bowers book "Full Service", and there's a great documentary on him and the book that you can find online or purchase on Amazon. Plus, the Netflix series by Ryan Murphy "Hollywood" is loosely based on Scotty Bowers exploit with it's gas station setting and story of male hustlers.
Less credible (perhaps) is the gossip book "Hollywood Babylon" by the legendary cult film director Kenneth Anger. A lot of the stories were sordid and heavily disputed (naturally, being so explosive), but it's a fascinating read. Even if the stories aren't true they are so sensational.
It’s crazy to me that Tallulah Bankhead and Hattie McDaniel were lovers, because it’s such an odd pair, but that’s so cool!! I’m such a fan of both of them.
Interesting, but the Joan Crawford movie was Whatever Happened to Baby Jane!
There are a lot of people very pressed in the comments and I love it 🥰
Did anyone else catch that flub?
He said, "Whatever Happened To Mary Jane" when talking about Joan Crawford...
There was book release by a well know procurer with lot of Hollywoid secrets. Some info would blow the minds of those that were big fans of certain stars. Some of what he said was old dark rumors. But one things back then studios protected the imagine of their stars.
Name of author, please?
The author was Scotty Bowers. His book is called : My Adventures in Hollywood and the Secret Sex Lives of The Stars
Fun stuff, thanks for sharing this! What was the name of the book?
@@andrewcarter3903 that's the one. Thanks . Saved me time digging for it
@@andrewcarter3903 I read that book too, someone just asked about it and I couldn't remember Scottys name! Thank you so much!!!
What about Katherine Hepburn's longterm relationship with Spencer Tracy? The story goes that Spencer Tracy was married, but he was also Catholic, so he wouldn't divorce his wife and, ofcourse, couldn't marry Katherine. Their relationship(affair) lasted 3 decades, so it's kinda doubtful she had time for other liaisons. Jackie Gleason was in a similar situation and had mistresses.
I remember hearing about him and June Taylor who was the head of the dance group on his show. Don’t know if she was his wife or girlfriend. Please clarify if you know.
There were rumours Spencer was Bisexual too ..
Dietrich's first name was pronounced "Marlainah" not "Marleen."
A quote i have heard attributed to Taluah Bankhead " Daddy warned me about men and booze but he didn't say anything about women and cocaine"
Marlene Dietrich was German. The correct pronunciation of her first name is mar-LAY-nuh, not mar-LEEN.
What Happened to Mary Jane? You have got to be kidding!!!
Geez, was there anybody left?
They say Crawford tried to have a go at Bette Davis and she got short shrift. As you say Crawford was maneater and the same with women , I call these people greedy, they want it all.
Crawford's apparent words regarding Bette were "I'd give her a poke" 😅 Bette was hetero though so no luck for Joan.
I'd have not been able to turn down Crawford, personally but only in her pre-slug brows, overdrawn lips era. The 1920's blond Joan... aye yi yi
A friend and co-worker told me that he went to see one of Hepburn's live shows where she wore a man's suit and called herself "he" throughout.
Back then gays were treated unbelievable..Makes me so sad to think so many were mistreated and not able to be who they are and love whom they did .. one of the best documentary that is so beautiful is on Netflix .. called a secret love.. I’m from Rockford, Il which if that rings a bell it’s Rockford Peaches, A league of their own is a movie about the women baseball teams.. One of the woman was gay and fell in love with another girl in 1940’s… they were together 70’s years and got married in 2010 I believe .. it was so beautiful but because of women like then and others who went through hell pathed the way for woman today.. I’m not saying it’s easy on lesbians but surely a lot better than back then and I pray when my kids kids grow up it won’t be an issue at all.. love is love ! Always be true to yourself!
Much of Anger’s book has been debunked
Hollywood Babylon is basically a work of fiction.
“Full Service” by Scotty Bowers, having out lived his friends, just wanted to make everyone happy.
He survived Iwo Jima, losing his brother and best friend. Bartender to the Stars for over 60 years.
That documentary was not surprising but how long that open secret stuff went on without people's careers getting destroyed....amazing. Like Scotty said "they are all dead now so the truth can't hurt them."
This video is literally toxic waste.
When gossip is the main goal climbing upon rumors as supposedly facts is completely disgusting and shows when a dirty mind is also sick. Those who try to smear are the ones who show their true colors.
Being gay or bi is not dirty or disgusting. Being prejudiced and hateful, like you, is. Get a life.
huh??? disgusting is living hidden for loving women
Hattie McDaniel: Gone With The Heterosexuals!!!
Joan Crawford never did a movie called " whatever happened to MARY JANE" IT was baby jane
Of course you have to remember that there was no sex education in the home, in church, or in school.
Jeez!!! So when did sleeping become a bad thing??? Crazy world!!!
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Marilyn Monroe I didn't know she was bisexual.
Hattie McDaniels was gay?
There was no question that she was straight.
Whoa, that blew my mind.
To be honest, sexuality doesn’t have a look. Nobody can know if anybody’s gay, straight, bisexual, etc unless the person themselves tell you.
rumors
I was surprised there was no mention of the incestuous relationship between Norma Shearer and Minnie Mouse. Or Claudette Colbert and Lassie.
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Lassie was male, which makes their relationship less-than-scandalous.
You might think it was less than scandalous, but Claudette did this thing with her tongue and a yo-yo that had Rin Tin Tin hyperventilating.
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'Whatever Happened to MARY Jane' Did you even look at the Wikipedia page???
Maybe he was high on maryjane when he was making the video.
Thank you.
You're welcome! We're so glad you enjoyed this video. What other types of videos would you like to see?
3:42 Once again, it's WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BSBY JANE...NOT Whatever Happened to Mary Jane. Just sayin.
-San Francisco fan girl
BABY JANE
@@aavv1818 Lol. Right. Out there playing school teacher and then misspelling the hard word of “Baby’. Damn Karma comes really quick sometimes.
@@applepie1923 Note to self: Don't write while in bed. Lol
@@applepie1923 I felt like an IDIOT as I read my note. Yuck!
@@aavv1818 I was just messing with you, all in fun. If you want me to take off my comments I will.
I think you only touched the tip of the iceberg with this subject. There are definitely actresses that you didn't cover in here. I think Lillian Gish was wasn't she?
They all were. Acting's the perfect profession.
People were too classy to label or discuss sexual orientation publicly, most likely like my ww2 gen grandparents sex was a private matter
This could be fake. There are just rumors.
The list would be a lot shorter if you told us who was straight.
Billie Holiday and Hattie McDaniel's were the shockers for me
A lot of this is rubbish.
Really?
None are alive to fight back.
How do you know that it is rubbish? Many of these names have been described this way for years.
@@brendapayne6603 And they’ve been dead for years too.
They may have, but they always came back to me. 😜😍👌👍✔
"Secretly" due to the then-immense stigma against same-sex attraction. Sometimes-extreme actions of those so inclined (e.g. Liberace) were in reaction that dreadful standard.
OK, now what actors aren't Gay? No matter who might be named as straight...I can't believe it.
Hattie McDaniel? That sure is out of the corn fields!
Now I’d like to know the stars that were exclusively heterosexual
Bette Davis. Probably Jimmy Stewart... ?
Thank you for the video but who cares that was their personal lives Let It Be
I think you meant Billie Holiday and not Billie Hollywood.
Anything possible in secret
The big names you mentioned bio,and all of them beautiful and attractive for men
I'm waiting for Elizabeth Taylor's name. She's not on the list 😂
Who was she knocking around with?
This is not Mercedes De Acosta at 7:25. It's Maude Adams, a stage actress who was also believed to be lesbian.
Hepburn and Tracy never were sexual toward each other; he preferred men and she preferred women. As for Barbara Stanwyck, she was married to Robert Taylor. They too, preferred individuals of their own sex; Barbara - women and Taylor - men. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott were a long time item and they lived together on the beach. Grant got married to protect his image and career.
Wait.....spencer Tracy was bi????
According to some sources. A lot of this is rumor and hearsay. Or based on books written by people claiming to have had same-sex relationships with some of the people named in this video.
A lot of the Tracey stuff comes from a guy who was a male hooker in Hollywood who wrote a book and starred in a documentary claiming Tracey was gay, and was also one of his clients. The hooker also hinted that Hepburn was a lesbian, rather than the bisexual that she had long been rumored to be. It seems likely Hepburm was one or the other, but I don't know how much of a "GOSPEL" the male Hollywood hooker should be taken as.
It's pretty much-accepted fact among historians that Garbo/Crawford/Dietrich were bisexual. And that Barbara Stanwyck was either bisexual or lesbian. And Bankhead made no secret of her bisexuality. As far as a lot of the women this video mentions as being among their lovers (including Claudette Colbert/Hattie McDaniel, Billie Burke), that is just based on what was rumor, gossip, and hearsay. Maybe it's all true and maybe it's not.
Mercedes De Acosta was a well-established Hollywood screenwriter in the 1930s and 1940s, and she was an out lesbian. She wrote a book claiming she had affairs with several famous actresses (movie
stars and theater stars) of that day, including Greta Garbo and Marlene Dietrich. Both of who denied the claim
Dyan Cannon, Grant's fourth wife (and a bombshell) said she never saw any evidence of his homosexuality.
@@keythdanielsen9315 A lot of the Grant stuff comes from the fact that in the 1930s and 1940s Grant often lived with Randolph Scott when he wasn't married. And it was apparently a well-known "Secret" in Hollywood that Grant liked men.
There is supposedly a quote from a female star (I forget who) from that period, who supposedly said, "EVERYBODY IN HOLLYWOOD KNOWS CARY GRANT LIKES MEN"
However, it's probably more likely that he was bisexual rather than gay. For instance In the 1950s Grant had a romance with Sophia Loren, who had a longstanding boyfriend (who become her husband). People close to Grant always said Grant was deeply in love with Loren and very much devastated when she ultimately chose her future husband over him. And a writer who wrote a biography of Grant came to the conclusion that he was bisexual. That writer also said that Grant was pretty much done with men as he got older. Which would include the time of his marriage to Dyan Cannon.
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Tracy and Hepburn did have a sexual affair at first, but stayed together to beard for each other. Hepburn largely preferred woman. Tracy took whatever.
If you’re looking for credibility calling it ‘Whatever happened to Mary Jane’ ain’t a good way to start.
Reading the Sewing Circle brought me here. I have an ever so slight obsession 😂
I am too old to be surprised by any of this.
A woman enjoying or preferring women was preferable to a studio as long as they kept it quiet. Less pregnancies and drama.
Many people are posting interesting comments, which begs the question, What is gay? If one lusts after people of the same sex but never have sex with someone of the same sex are they gay? What if someone just likes to have sex with people of the same sex, but do not tend to fall in love with people of the opposite sex? What if someone just likes to sleep around, period? Male, female, whatever? Doesn't care? A term often used by heath care agents is MSM, men who have sex with other men. Why? Because some men have sex with other men, but claim to be straight. Are they lying? See, these are the issues that confuse people, both straight and LGBT. This is also what makes being LGBT different than being pretty much any other type of minority.
I’m not surprised by any of it.
Tallulah Bankhead was a cool 😎 lady ! Go out for a night 🌙 & be refreshed in the morning 🌄 ! 👍 👌
Joan Crawford was the most surprising too me. Hepburn would be the second surprise. I always thought these two were only into men. One learns something new everyday as they say. 😀
While not a famous Hollywood Actress as women mentioned in this. Lily Tomlin who starred with Dolly Parton in 9 to 5 is a lesbian and has been living with another woman for sometime.
Do you mean Lily Tomlin by any chance?
@@lilyredhead1398 Yes!! I did mean "Lily Tomlin" wrote it in hurry because of needing to get to church where I am organist.
I heard something about M. Munroe and B.Bardot..just a rumour?
I don't know what's wrong, but I have slowed down the playback speed on this video all the way back to 25%. It still is playing at 100% speed. Way to fast to read!
Suddenly at about 20seconds the speed changed and slowed down. A little later the speed picked up pace again. I tried to change the speed again, but the information was speeding ut didn't slow down. It was finally easier to pause and restart multiple times
No surprise, really, that nearly everyone in the acting profession's gay, lesbian or bi - and much more. It seems to be their nature to swing either way or bat for both sides, especially with all the opportunity afforded them to explore different characters and the human condition.
I adore Joan Crawford! 👑 😈
It's baby jane, not Mary Jane
Do a video: VD of the stars. These stars were co- mingling with each some much, they must have been passing VD between them.
Was their the flynn gonorrhea or Mickey Rooney crabs 🦀?
In my opinion, women being bisexual is completely normal and has been for hundreds of thousands of years. Just realize we have been polygamous marriages for hundreds of thousands of years.
You're very perceptive . 😊💕
Tallulah Bankhead. What a wonderful woman.
How can you be sure of any when we live in an age of dishonest reports and those craving for viewers?
Anyway, if a person or celebrity is or isn't is not the public's right to know.
Since when did it become important to know others personal interests?
I have done extensive research on the human character and have discovered that a person's sexual preference and orientation can be revealed by a few features upon the face.
Having said that, if the public had access to this knowledge, they would roll over to find the hidden truth of the most masculine of men and the most voluptuous of women prefer the same sex.
But in this great age of empowerment and inclusion,
Why the urgency to get the goods ,pun intended.?
To slander, bring down character, etc . Not for inclusion .
Man can never be fixed until he fixes himself. To be inclusive, women included.
There was a lot of sleeping around in Hollywood by both sexes, with both sexes. That doesn’t mean there was actually a romance, though. A well known female entertainer slept with multiple women (and men), but only had what could be called a romance with one of the women. As soon as she found a man she fancied, the female romance was over. Happened the other way, too.
Well ..that can happen in life .not just Hollywood .Sexual encounters and romanctic relationships are not the same thing sometimes .
Would have loved to have been a fly on that wall.
It's Lilly Tomlin
Isn't it kinda weird how people accept the female bisexual women but not any of the men.
Watching these videos you would think that no one was straight! Lol