This was originally released in three parts. After several requests, I decided to edit the three separate videos into one video for my patrons. Now, I'm releasing it for everyone as a resource to share. Enjoy!!!
Ah, I thought I'd heard this before and that it seemed like a Bri-Bri from the recent past. This is definitely a more easily shared format, so thank you!
What I always wonder, I always ask, and never get a straight answer about, is if God INTENDED for apologists to make a cumulative case. Especially for recently found pieces of evidence. Isn't that weird? Did God want for a specific piece of evidence to go missing for thousands of years, condemning thousands of people to the hell of the unconvinced, and make the evidence appear just now? Is God hiding compelling evidence that will appear in the future, after I'm already dead and presumably burning? DID GOD WANT APOLOGISTS??? Apologists disagree about how compelling the evidence is. But they all agree it's fine. This is the right amount of evidence. Less evidence, nobody believes. More evidence, our free will gets violated (or something). So the evidence is fine tuned to be precisely this. 🤔 Compelling to some, and not compelling to others (especially the most educated). So why are there apologists?? Why don't they just shut up? God already put the right amount of evidence at our disposal, to convince the percentage he wanted to convince, so maybe they should shut up forever. Otherwise they're violating our free will (or something).
Agreeing with Dalton here.. Yeah, you can't have something be BEFORE the first instance of time, because time is the distance between events. It must exist as soon as you assert anything to have happened. Craig knows how legless his argument was/is.
The mental gymnastics of William Lane Craig attempting and failing to exploit the logic of retrocausallity combined with the video edits is hilarious 01:48
@@mistahtom I'm partial to the classic Christian "bait and switch" of doggedly arguing for the essential requirement of a prime cause and then casually remarking, "and oh yeah, it's Jesus". Nice try.
When WLC claims that there was nothing, before there was something, then claims there was a god, he has already shot himself in the foot; for a god is not nothing. Surprised that Bill can still walk.
If he tries to chew gum and walk his peristaltis shuts down. Not enough brain power for all systems. The guy is like hard plastic crocs. Ugly and uncomfortable. Yet he still exists. Proof that god is evil.
I have spent countless thousands of hours debunking every aspect of Christianity over a period of over 60 years, and i finally came to the key reason i can't believe in it: It's just so stupid. Yep, that covers it.
@itsROMPERS..., I completely disagree with you!! It's NOT stupid! It's incredibly Stupid. With a side of "Childish". Other than that, Peace and health to you :)
I stand in awe of the stunning word salad mastery of Mr. Craig. He needs to team up with Jordan Peterson & Deepak Chopra for a trifecta lecture tour of _holy_ _quantum spiritual meta insight_ in to the vast consciousness of the universal mind of God.
I'm gonna release it in August when the month is long and I need an extra video. Thanks for reminding me about this on Patreon! Blessings to you. Indulgences as well!
Just wondering- how are we (people, men, women, black, white, yellow, red, brown, tan) made “in the image” of something “timeless, space less, without form?” 🧐
So basically time won’t give me time, and time makes lovers feel like they Got something real, but you and me know they have nothing but time. You know, kind of a Clock of the Heart thing.
@@CharlesPayet I told you I’d get it out this month!!! Promises made… LOL! Thanks for the encouragement. I probably wouldn’t have released this to the general public without your calling for it.
Thanks for all your work and entertaining presentation. (sincerely, but primarily for the 'algo', which I've learned is even more helpful than my thanks alone)
William Lane Craig's preposterous exercise in logic is akin to the Three Stooges explaining quantum mechanics. Of course, the Three Stooges knew they were perfecting buffoonery as an art form, Craig is just a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say.
I thought, though I could be wrong that at least one of the Three Stooges was very highly educated, science wise. Admittedly smart enough to do comedy rather than science as a profession. ( I was trying to think of another 'ough' to put in there but came up blank. only got 3. )
Lol. They obviously didn't read the manual. Matthew 18:19 "truly I tell you that if 2 of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven".
I don't feel the need to argue *against* Christianity since Christianity has *in no way* demonstrated that it is based in reality. I only argue against what Christians say the rest of us should have to do because of their beliefs.
Ouch! I almost hurt for believers after that perfect, mind bending take-down. After I left Christianity, it took me several years before I became embarrassed for the absurd BS that I once believed, but it happened. I realized how foolish, ridiculous, and unfounded my beliefs had been and that's when I went to work studying religion, only to find that all religious scholars know that Moses didn't write the Pentateuch. Most don't believe the Exodus story or that Moses was a real person. Most believe that the Israelite's were Canaanites... and so it goes. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John weren't written by disciples. Interpolations are everywhere in the Bible. What I was told in Church is BS and most educated pastors know that.
Stupendous! I just discovered you and I think you’re the best. Christianity sounds abhorrent and/or ridiculous when you lay out the facts and describe it the way you do. Thank you! I’m soaking in your intelligent facts for my next conversation with a believer.🤩
I can't remember how I stumbled across your channel probably 9 months back, but honeslty have no clue why you have such little traction on this platform. Your content is much more palatable than most atheist/agnostic channels that aim to be humorous (in my opinion). Wish I could support other than viewing but sadly can't for now. Hope the content can continue to flow though.
Christian apologists sound like me when I was 6 years old, explaining to my parents that it didn't happen like their eyes are seeing it but like such and such.
WLC's fumbling makes a perfect case for why people should be humble about human fallibility in comprehending "outside" of time and space and err on the side of "I don't know". The alternative is to spout useless nonsense like an idiot and be shown to simply be talking yourself up, as WLC does with all his question -begging in the use of temporal words. Physicists and mathematicians have been seeking to answer these questions, they are not going to be solved by an apologist who claims to have all the answers yet his very words contradict themselves on the logic before they even venture into claims of evidence.
As an ex-Catholic you hit on most of the doctrinal points I struggled with, great laundry list of why Yahweh makes no sense. I'll add one more point, Yahweh is understood to be a perfect being. To me that means all aspects of god's personality are maximized. So this begs the question why did god have the need or desire to create the universe? Unlike mere mortals who gain knowledge and/or satisfaction from doing stuff that is impossible for Yahweh, as all aspects are already at maximum. In addition this triple-omni notion of Yahweh does not square with how the bible describes his actions.
Yes, and on top of that, he created a world filled with the stuff He hates (sin), and knowing that He’d be causing the eternal suffering of sentient beings if He created the world as is! Ridiculous!!!
Let's not forget that Yahweh has an origin story that of being a son of El, had a wife (Asherah) and was at one time a minor god in the Canaanite pantheon of gods and goddesses.
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Snake talks to lady about a magic tree. What's hard to believe about that?
Why was it called a serpent BEFORE the supposed punishment that MADE it a serpent? Chew on that one a bit and EVERYTHING else the morons spout becomes even more retarded... #RetardedIsNotAnAttackOnTheDisabled
Let me save you all 17+ minutes... The "case against christianity": "Faith" is defined as "belief without evidence"... "Moron" is defined as "person of faith"... (you are welcome...)
For most people the existence of the universe points to something. But according to some it points to nothing. Richard Dawkins clears up the confusion: "You can dispute what is meant by nothing, but whatever it is it's very very simple." --Richard Dawkins, during a debate with Catholic Cardinal George Pell, 4 Oct 2012 *LOL*
I'll quote mine with you... "The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference." Richard Dawkins, A River Out Of Eden
Except he would likely consider keeping and riding horses unnecessary suffering, so would be opposed to being a horseman. He’s probably more of an electric scooterman.
You always produce compelling videos. This is definitely one of the best. Just having you outline what happened in the Bible as real events is kind of staggering. Mostly if you’re a Christian. Low Bar or not.
In the best of cases if the apologists' god exists it would be an immensely complex unfathomable being, which makes all the profets' and apologists' confident B essing self defeating.
I’ve always said my deconstruction was a cumulative case against God. It wasn’t one thing, it was a hundred things, big and small, that said a tri-omni God could not exist.
Here’s a thought for you, just a lil bit of a tangent… Social media is responsible for presenting new lines of thought to what were once “closed off“ (concerning alternative/liberal/ progressive lines of thought) communities. This is wreaking havoc on the traditional cultural norms, including Christian patriarchal authority. As a reaction, cries for tying religious beliefs into legislative action are being implemented. An attempt to “enforce” faith? Ironically, according to many Christian theologies, during the “pre-existence”, there was a great battle in heaven, and a no holds barred, guarantee of adherence to a “divine path” was Lucifer’s plan. Supposedly, Lucifer was defeated. Apparently not.
Oh, hey guys, I’ll be right back. The most important thing that ever happened to me (in 1989) needs to be written down. I’ll send you a fragment of what I wrote, so that you may remember. 🙄
In 1989 the lord your god (me) will see my prophecy come to pass as the wall of Berlinia will tumble to the ground as the lord your god (me) commanded. What other proof do you need? 🤣🤣
God is a prankster? That would make sense!! The Germanic Gods are real and Loki hasn't been killed by Heimdallr yet, so he created Christianity as a prank, but before Loki could reveal that it was all a prank, his prophesied fight came to pass and he was killed by Heimdallr. And so, Christians have no idea that their God was really a prankster and their whole religion was just a prank!
Poor old Low Bar Bill, he does try. He is not a philosopher, he is a "Christian philosopher". Which is an entirely different species. Oh no, not Mister Twiggles. The bastard!
we can only see what is effectively a (very large) bubble, thanks to the speed of light, outside of that bubble could be infinite, and even if it is not infinite, it could be so big you can't tell the difference. and, as it's expanding too, "the edge" is moving away too fast to be reached anyway.
@@adamstrange7884 3 percent is a low estimate of the total universe. I mean, some of the models have it infinite but excluding that, the 42 billion light year radius we can see may only be 1/250th of the total radius, making the volume of the total millions of times larger than we can see. There’s just no way at the moment to tell how big the total universe is, only the Hubble bubble,
I've never really understood why Christian philosophers phrase it as God existing outside of time, when all they need is God existing outside of our time. Why couldn't God exist in a different time line? Heck he could create time lines as much as he liked on a whim. I think they would be better off saying their God is not constrained by our time. To imply that he would not be constrained by any time, sounds like a philosophical dead end. I suppose the concept isn't in the bible, but then neither does it have the concept of God creating time.
I can imagine a different timeline or the existence of a god/s outside of our time, sure, no problem, but that still doesn't answer where this god/gods came from ?
Blame Aquinas. His God has to be the creator of absolutely everything - including time. Otherwise, there’s a Being theoretically greater the Him who created time. It’s all a bunch of mental masturbation.
@@misterdeity It's phenomenally stupid. They don't want God to have a creator, and yet literally everything else needs a creator? The special pleading is literally out of this world. And I maintain the Craig's shifting the goalposts with that "everything that begins to exist has a cause" just shifts his problem down a chain without addressing it. Oh and I'd love to see him prove that his God didn't begin to exist. Defining a God that doesn't need to begin to exist, doesn't make such a thing real. We ask for proof of God, and we get yet more stacks of unsupported claims, that the arguments require. And even still, if their God wasn't needing a creator, his qualities and aspects also wouldn't need a creator. And if existing requires time, that time is intrinsically necessary for that God's existence. They don't even need to say that time was created, since it could have been as eternal as their God, They might even claim that time to be an intrinsic aspect of their God. At least that would give their absurd claims a loophole. If God can be love, why couldn't God also be time? All the yearning for a "perfect" deity, just yields a logical impossibility. And the more perfect, the less logical things get.
This is a brilliant refutation of the foolishness engendered by religious belief. The older I get, the more firmly I agree with Hitchens that religion really does poison everything.
3:33 look; i've taken huge doses of psychedelics and have watched the clock tick backwards. however, i've never heard so much nonsense from a supposedly intelligent person, as i just witnessed at that timestamp, from WLC, apologist/excusigist extraordinaire. i think he is often disingenuous, a charlatan, who is clearly intelligent, but practicing deceit, but has that gorgeous stentorian voice, and he looks like david lee roth...
You can't know what's going to happen tomorrow if you can change your mind at any moment. Omnipotent and omniscient at the same time, nah, can't happen.
I think that the omnipotence means God knowing every possible result of every possible event, including results of choices and decisions. This would allow free will. It is a ridiculous concept, but the religionists get round it with the magicality of God. I seem to remember some apologist (possibly Low Bar Bill) saying something like this.
@@lidbass I mean, it still doesn't allow free will because we still couldn't freely do anything, only and always following paths known before we were born. But yeah, Billy doesn't understand the problem because he's paid not to understand but to give excuses to Christians.
@@misterdeity Probably an unnecessary over explanation but there are millions of Americans willing to swear that Trump won the Presidential term starting 2020. Now imagine the holy church of MAGA controlled all records for a thousand years destroying those they deemed heretical. Not my skillset but I could see you doing a Church of Maga series.
"The *instant* the decision is made, time *comes into being* ." Does WLC not understand how that is begging the question? This reminds me of the people who say they can't "understand" singular "they" while literally using it without thinking, in the sentences right before and after that statement.
I did 3 years of seminary, before high school, in Huntington Beach, Ca. I got my senior year off. My driving privileges were directly connected to my church attendance. We got high before school and sometimes, before seminary. I took my friends.
What did God "do" "before" He created the universe? I mean, no time. No space. Holy shit, it must have been boring. Really boring. No wonder He created everything. . .
Thanks so much. You are going to be so blessed now. And the no time, no space thing… forever (whatever that means), explains why He’s a sociopath. We know what solitary confinement does to sentient beings.
I've told Yahweh every day for about a week now to appear next to me and prove it exists in a meaningful way. For some reason, nothing happens every time. Hmmm....... 🤔
That doesn't really work though I can claim that classical mathematics is the only true mathematics. That 2+2=4, and if someone says it equals 22 or 202 or any other number, then they're wrong. Does that make me scared of doubt? Not at all. But they're just wrong is all.
@@trstquint7114 I have faith in the US stock market. I have faith in the scientific method. Faith is just an everyday word. The reason I have faith in the scientific method is because of evidence that it holds true and works. Facts give me my faith in the US stock market. What's wrong with that?
The worldwide flood thingy was very effective at ending evil; that's why the 6 O'clock news is filled with heart warming stories about compassion and puppies. The Creator is prone to changing his mind though; he got very mad at people for "un-aliving" their kids in the Old Testament, but as years went by, he decided "un-aliving" your kids was such a good idea, he did it himself to please himself. Now we all patiently wait for his un-alived kid to come back and "fire" everyone that didn't accept the flimsy and deeply flawed stories he expected us to believe. Have a Nice Day. 🌄
This was originally released in three parts. After several requests, I decided to edit the three separate videos into one video for my patrons. Now, I'm releasing it for everyone as a resource to share. Enjoy!!!
i'm still enjoying tomorrows show.
Ah, I thought I'd heard this before and that it seemed like a Bri-Bri from the recent past. This is definitely a more easily shared format, so thank you!
@@HarryNicNicholas LOL!!!
What I always wonder, I always ask, and never get a straight answer about, is if God INTENDED for apologists to make a cumulative case.
Especially for recently found pieces of evidence.
Isn't that weird?
Did God want for a specific piece of evidence to go missing for thousands of years, condemning thousands of people to the hell of the unconvinced, and make the evidence appear just now?
Is God hiding compelling evidence that will appear in the future, after I'm already dead and presumably burning?
DID GOD WANT APOLOGISTS???
Apologists disagree about how compelling the evidence is. But they all agree it's fine. This is the right amount of evidence.
Less evidence, nobody believes.
More evidence, our free will gets violated (or something).
So the evidence is fine tuned to be precisely this. 🤔 Compelling to some, and not compelling to others (especially the most educated).
So why are there apologists?? Why don't they just shut up? God already put the right amount of evidence at our disposal, to convince the percentage he wanted to convince, so maybe they should shut up forever. Otherwise they're violating our free will (or something).
@@misterdeity At 13:48, you said "Mark and Luke" but probably meant Matthew and Luke. Is it too late for adding an onscreen correction?
Brilliant sir.
Agreeing with Dalton here..
Yeah, you can't have something be BEFORE the first instance of time, because time is the distance between events. It must exist as soon as you assert anything to have happened.
Craig knows how legless his argument was/is.
Yay!
Another interesting, informative presentation!
❤🎉😊
The mental gymnastics of William Lane Craig attempting and failing to exploit the logic of retrocausallity combined with the video edits is hilarious 01:48
@@mistahtom I'm partial to the classic Christian "bait and switch" of doggedly arguing for the essential requirement of a prime cause and then casually remarking, "and oh yeah, it's Jesus".
Nice try.
This Judeo-Christian thing is beginning to seem highly improbable....
Great video.
When WLC claims that there was nothing, before there was something, then claims there was a god, he has already shot himself in the foot; for a god is not nothing.
Surprised that Bill can still walk.
If he tries to chew gum and walk his peristaltis shuts down. Not enough brain power for all systems. The guy is like hard plastic crocs. Ugly and uncomfortable. Yet he still exists. Proof that god is evil.
I have spent countless thousands of hours debunking every aspect of Christianity over a period of over 60 years, and i finally came to the key reason i can't believe in it:
It's just so stupid.
Yep, that covers it.
@itsROMPERS..., I completely disagree with you!! It's NOT stupid! It's incredibly Stupid. With a side of "Childish". Other than that, Peace and health to you :)
@@Reason1717 oh.... _YOU!_
God told me you would say that. Which proves gods existence. I bet you feel terribly foolish right now. 🤣🤣jk
Well said!
Thank you so much! Blessings and indulgences are headed your way! Hitch be with you!!!
Thank you for your gentle Shock and Awe.
"...if you think about it, but even more so if you don't."
- Excuseagetics quote for the -ages- instantaneous timelessness.😂
I stand in awe of the stunning word salad mastery of Mr. Craig.
He needs to team up with Jordan Peterson & Deepak Chopra for a trifecta lecture tour of _holy_
_quantum spiritual meta insight_ in to the vast consciousness of the universal mind of God.
Can’t wait until this is public and can be shared!
I'm gonna release it in August when the month is long and I need an extra video. Thanks for reminding me about this on Patreon! Blessings to you. Indulgences as well!
You can't use temporal articles "Like 'before' or 'yet'".
Somehow, still manages to use "prior". Without realizing it's not a tenseless verb.
Just wondering- how are we (people, men, women, black, white, yellow, red, brown, tan) made “in the image” of something “timeless, space less, without form?” 🧐
@@theunknownatheist3815 We’re hate-filled, ignorant tribalists…(?).
@@theunknownatheist3815 TheraminTrees made video about how "made in image of god" doesn’t work in any way, no matter how this image is defined.
Don’t worry bout it…just believe it. 🤣🤣
"Christian excusagist" instead of "Christian apologist" as they call themselves. I love it! 🤣
"Excuseagists" is a great word.
wow, what a beautiful sermon. Amen Mr Deity
That was awesome, Mr D. Laid it all out with their stories and words (ooops, Gospel, I mean). Thank you!
Thanks!
Thank YOU!!! Blessings and indulgences are headed your way. And I’m throwing in multiple chances to make a first impression. Hitch be with you!
So basically time won’t give me time, and time makes lovers feel like they Got something real, but you and me know they have nothing but time. You know, kind of a Clock of the Heart thing.
LOL!!! So... Boy George was a Christian(?).
HOORAY! I’ve been waiting so long for this!!!!
@@CharlesPayet I told you I’d get it out this month!!! Promises made… LOL! Thanks for the encouragement. I probably wouldn’t have released this to the general public without your calling for it.
2000 years in the making.
"dogs: best species ever"
*Cats have entered the room*
😼
the universe is fine tuned for the cat's whiskers.
This whole mess is due to a guy named Moses, who probably ate too many mushrooms, thought he was having a conversation with a talking burning bush.
The Moses character was a brutal killer though.
@@eatfrenchtoast Do not forget Joshua...
Absolutely Awesome!! The contradictory beliefs are staggering when combined like this.
Excellent summary!
Thanks for all your work and entertaining presentation. (sincerely, but primarily for the 'algo', which I've learned is even more helpful than my thanks alone)
"brilliant, really, when you think about it, but even moreso when you don't." LMAO *that* was brilliant
Brian at his most passionate and altruistic. Lovely!
William Lane Craig's preposterous exercise in logic is akin to the Three Stooges explaining quantum mechanics. Of course, the Three Stooges knew they were perfecting buffoonery as an art form, Craig is just a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say.
@@kentjensen5216 Bonus points for the Bugs reference. He was my favorite!!!
I thought, though I could be wrong that at least one of the Three Stooges was very highly educated, science wise. Admittedly smart enough to do comedy rather than science as a profession.
( I was trying to think of another 'ough' to put in there but came up blank. only got 3. )
15:48 and they keep coming to our doors two by two, as if to prove how thoroughly they fail to live up to this promise
Lol. They obviously didn't read the manual.
Matthew 18:19 "truly I tell you that if 2 of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven".
Great video, Brian!
Brilliant! Very entertaining and interesting! Thank you! ( I love the one liners that flashed up on the screen! lol! Very innovative)
Other than those nitpicks it all makes perfect sense.
I don't feel the need to argue *against* Christianity since Christianity has *in no way* demonstrated that it is based in reality. I only argue against what Christians say the rest of us should have to do because of their beliefs.
I have often wondered just how long it took Gawd to decide to create time.
Also, terrible Sagan impression.
Thanks, man, for what you do here.
I did warn you. 😉
Ouch! I almost hurt for believers after that perfect, mind bending take-down. After I left Christianity, it took me several years before I became embarrassed for the absurd BS that I once believed, but it happened. I realized how foolish, ridiculous, and unfounded my beliefs had been and that's when I went to work studying religion, only to find that all religious scholars know that Moses didn't write the Pentateuch. Most don't believe the Exodus story or that Moses was a real person. Most believe that the Israelite's were Canaanites... and so it goes. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John weren't written by disciples. Interpolations are everywhere in the Bible. What I was told in Church is BS and most educated pastors know that.
I had all the Mormon stuff on top of that!!! 😬
Stupendous! I just discovered you and I think you’re the best. Christianity sounds abhorrent and/or ridiculous when you lay out the facts and describe it the way you do. Thank you! I’m soaking in your intelligent facts for my next conversation with a believer.🤩
We have all been Holy Ghosted. Time to get over him, no matter how much you want him back.
I can't remember how I stumbled across your channel probably 9 months back, but honeslty have no clue why you have such little traction on this platform. Your content is much more palatable than most atheist/agnostic channels that aim to be humorous (in my opinion). Wish I could support other than viewing but sadly can't for now. Hope the content can continue to flow though.
You can and are supporting the channel. Sub, like, comment, get notified, and share! And I agree with you completely! 😊
Christian apologists sound like me when I was 6 years old, explaining to my parents that it didn't happen like their eyes are seeing it but like such and such.
"just don't vote, Please" that was epic!
absolutely great job as always.
You joke about God turning off his all-knowingness, but my JW family member actually believes he does. Anyway, I love your work and sense of humor.
@@milohilltop3691 WLC believes that shit, too.
ABSOLUTELY love the sarcasm!!
you're doing the lord's work
I never cared for Sparky, but when they killed Mr. Twiggles, they crossed a line.
WLC's fumbling makes a perfect case for why people should be humble about human fallibility in comprehending "outside" of time and space and err on the side of "I don't know".
The alternative is to spout useless nonsense like an idiot and be shown to simply be talking yourself up, as WLC does with all his question -begging in the use of temporal words.
Physicists and mathematicians have been seeking to answer these questions, they are not going to be solved by an apologist who claims to have all the answers yet his very words contradict themselves on the logic before they even venture into claims of evidence.
BTW, God has clearly been many from the beginning (pun intended), hence their name as Elohim, a reference to plural gods.
I’m working on a video which includes that subject right now. Look for it next month.
Good one, Mr. Mister! That pretty well sums it up!
Well done. It's fascinating how stupid Christianity appears to anyone outside of it. But please... please tell me Mr. Twiggles made it out alive.
Yes he was running around in circles and then running up a set of steps that started nowhere and led to nowhere.
An Escher painting comes to mind.
I shall mark to watch later. Thanks.
As an ex-Catholic you hit on most of the doctrinal points I struggled with, great laundry list of why Yahweh makes no sense. I'll add one more point, Yahweh is understood to be a perfect being. To me that means all aspects of god's personality are maximized. So this begs the question why did god have the need or desire to create the universe? Unlike mere mortals who gain knowledge and/or satisfaction from doing stuff that is impossible for Yahweh, as all aspects are already at maximum. In addition this triple-omni notion of Yahweh does not square with how the bible describes his actions.
Yes, and on top of that, he created a world filled with the stuff He hates (sin), and knowing that He’d be causing the eternal suffering of sentient beings if He created the world as is! Ridiculous!!!
@@misterdeityWell god was bored so created his own horror movie; even sadistic gods must get their entertainment somehow!
Let's not forget that Yahweh has an origin story that of being a son of El, had a wife (Asherah) and was at one time a minor god in the Canaanite pantheon of gods and goddesses.
Snake talks to lady about a magic tree. What's hard to believe about that?
god designs dumb woman - sounds like religion to me.
Why was it called a serpent BEFORE the supposed punishment that MADE it a serpent? Chew on that one a bit and EVERYTHING else the morons spout becomes even more retarded... #RetardedIsNotAnAttackOnTheDisabled
Waidaminute! I thought I coined the term "excusagist" two years ago...and now I am seeing it pop up everywhere.
Great minds!
The like is for Sparky and Mr. Twiggles, RIP.
Let me save you all 17+ minutes...
The "case against christianity": "Faith" is defined as "belief without evidence"... "Moron" is defined as "person of faith"... (you are welcome...)
For most people the existence of the universe points to something. But according to some it points to nothing. Richard Dawkins clears up the confusion:
"You can dispute what is meant by nothing, but whatever it is it's very very simple." --Richard Dawkins, during a debate with Catholic Cardinal George Pell, 4 Oct 2012
*LOL*
I'll quote mine with you... "The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference." Richard Dawkins, A River Out Of Eden
@@misterdeity LOL, yes, I have that quote in my collection. You're right! Richard Dawkins can be daft as fu¢k!
@@misterdeityif there is a God, they are one mean sonofabish.
Glad to see Alex O'Conner make a cameo, one of the new horsemen.
Except he would likely consider keeping and riding horses unnecessary suffering, so would be opposed to being a horseman. He’s probably more of an electric scooterman.
@@InigoMontoya-LOL!!!
You always produce compelling videos. This is definitely one of the best. Just having you outline what happened in the Bible as real events is kind of staggering. Mostly if you’re a Christian. Low Bar or not.
Absolutely fantastic video. You should do more longer format videos!
In the best of cases if the apologists' god exists it would be an immensely complex unfathomable being, which makes all the profets' and apologists' confident B essing self defeating.
Well, that pretty much sums it up. Well done, again.
I’ve always said my deconstruction was a cumulative case against God. It wasn’t one thing, it was a hundred things, big and small, that said a tri-omni God could not exist.
I love your references to Mr. Deity turning off his knowingness. I miss Him and you brought back fond memories!
At 13:50 should be - "the authors of Mathew and Luke".
Here’s a thought for you, just a lil bit of a tangent…
Social media is responsible for presenting new lines of thought to what were once “closed off“ (concerning alternative/liberal/ progressive lines of thought) communities. This is wreaking havoc on the traditional cultural norms, including Christian patriarchal authority.
As a reaction, cries for tying religious beliefs into legislative action are being implemented. An attempt to “enforce” faith? Ironically, according to many Christian theologies, during the “pre-existence”, there was a great battle in heaven, and a no holds barred, guarantee of adherence to a “divine path” was Lucifer’s plan. Supposedly, Lucifer was defeated.
Apparently not.
Absolutely! It's why the internet is where religion goes to die.
You sir are a shining light
Thank you
So nice of you!!! You’ve made my fortnight!
@@misterdeity most welcome
Oh, hey guys, I’ll be right back. The most important thing that ever happened to me (in 1989) needs to be written down. I’ll send you a fragment of what I wrote, so that you may remember. 🙄
That would be swell. I'll take that fragment and make an oppressive religion out of it.
In 1989 the lord your god (me) will see my prophecy come to pass as the wall of Berlinia will tumble to the ground as the lord your god (me) commanded. What other proof do you need? 🤣🤣
OH NO! Not Mr. Twiggles!😭😭😭
You hit the nail on the head and wrists and feet...I'll pass it along
God is a prankster?
That would make sense!! The Germanic Gods are real and Loki hasn't been killed by Heimdallr yet, so he created Christianity as a prank, but before Loki could reveal that it was all a prank, his prophesied fight came to pass and he was killed by Heimdallr. And so, Christians have no idea that their God was really a prankster and their whole religion was just a prank!
Poor old Low Bar Bill, he does try. He is not a philosopher, he is a "Christian philosopher". Which is an entirely different species.
Oh no, not Mister Twiggles. The bastard!
I can't express how much this video means to me and for me! Thank you 💙💙💙💙💙
You've made my fortnight!
Saw an article on how many galaxies there are, and the article stated that we only observe 3 percent of the universe!
we can only see what is effectively a (very large) bubble, thanks to the speed of light, outside of that bubble could be infinite, and even if it is not infinite, it could be so big you can't tell the difference. and, as it's expanding too, "the edge" is moving away too fast to be reached anyway.
@@adamstrange7884 3 percent is a low estimate of the total universe. I mean, some of the models have it infinite but excluding that, the 42 billion light year radius we can see may only be 1/250th of the total radius, making the volume of the total millions of times larger than we can see. There’s just no way at the moment to tell how big the total universe is, only the Hubble bubble,
I've never really understood why Christian philosophers phrase it as God existing outside of time, when all they need is God existing outside of our time.
Why couldn't God exist in a different time line? Heck he could create time lines as much as he liked on a whim.
I think they would be better off saying their God is not constrained by our time. To imply that he would not be constrained by any time, sounds like a philosophical dead end.
I suppose the concept isn't in the bible, but then neither does it have the concept of God creating time.
I can imagine a different timeline or the existence of a god/s outside of our time, sure, no problem, but that still doesn't answer where this god/gods came from ?
Blame Aquinas. His God has to be the creator of absolutely everything - including time. Otherwise, there’s a Being theoretically greater the Him who created time. It’s all a bunch of mental masturbation.
@@misterdeity It's phenomenally stupid. They don't want God to have a creator, and yet literally everything else needs a creator?
The special pleading is literally out of this world. And I maintain the Craig's shifting the goalposts with that "everything that begins to exist has a cause" just shifts his problem down a chain without addressing it. Oh and I'd love to see him prove that his God didn't begin to exist. Defining a God that doesn't need to begin to exist, doesn't make such a thing real.
We ask for proof of God, and we get yet more stacks of unsupported claims, that the arguments require.
And even still, if their God wasn't needing a creator, his qualities and aspects also wouldn't need a creator. And if existing requires time, that time is intrinsically necessary for that God's existence. They don't even need to say that time was created, since it could have been as eternal as their God, They might even claim that time to be an intrinsic aspect of their God.
At least that would give their absurd claims a loophole.
If God can be love, why couldn't God also be time?
All the yearning for a "perfect" deity, just yields a logical impossibility. And the more perfect, the less logical things get.
This is a brilliant refutation of the foolishness engendered by religious belief.
The older I get, the more firmly I agree with Hitchens that religion really does poison everything.
@@markgordon5266 it steals everything, too. Minds, money, land, morals and credit.
3:33 look; i've taken huge doses of psychedelics and have watched the clock tick backwards. however, i've never heard so much nonsense from a supposedly intelligent person, as i just witnessed at that timestamp, from WLC, apologist/excusigist extraordinaire. i think he is often disingenuous, a charlatan, who is clearly intelligent, but practicing deceit, but has that gorgeous stentorian voice, and he looks like david lee roth...
Excellent. It reminds me of your early videos.
Next Sunday I'm BBQing shrimp wrapped in linen and wool. Over sticks.
Don't forget the snake handling!
WLC is as slippery as an eel in a bucket of snot.
You can't know what's going to happen tomorrow if you can change your mind at any moment. Omnipotent and omniscient at the same time, nah, can't happen.
@@BeenDownSoLong... and can’t be omnipotent if you can’t give yourself foreknowledge.
I think that the omnipotence means God knowing every possible result of every possible event, including results of choices and decisions. This would allow free will. It is a ridiculous concept, but the religionists get round it with the magicality of God. I seem to remember some apologist (possibly Low Bar Bill) saying something like this.
@@lidbass I mean, it still doesn't allow free will because we still couldn't freely do anything, only and always following paths known before we were born. But yeah, Billy doesn't understand the problem because he's paid not to understand but to give excuses to Christians.
@@lidbass More verbal masturbation.
@@archapmangcmg Well said.
Sorry to have to nit pick, but the terminator T1000 wasn't able to walk through walls, it was able to pass through the holes in a barred gate.
My favourite is "how could so many people around at the time get it wrong?" and who won in 2920?
BCE?
@@misterdeity Probably an unnecessary over explanation but there are millions of Americans willing to swear that Trump won the Presidential term starting 2020. Now imagine the holy church of MAGA controlled all records for a thousand years destroying those they deemed heretical. Not my skillset but I could see you doing a Church of Maga series.
"The *instant* the decision is made, time *comes into being* ." Does WLC not understand how that is begging the question?
This reminds me of the people who say they can't "understand" singular "they" while literally using it without thinking, in the sentences right before and after that statement.
I did 3 years of seminary, before high school, in Huntington Beach, Ca. I got my senior year off. My driving privileges were directly connected to my church attendance. We got high before school and sometimes, before seminary. I took my friends.
Another home run. Hilariously brutal! LOL at your facial expressions.
What did God "do" "before" He created the universe? I mean, no time. No space. Holy shit, it must have been boring. Really boring. No wonder He created everything. . .
Thanks so much. You are going to be so blessed now. And the no time, no space thing… forever (whatever that means), explains why He’s a sociopath. We know what solitary confinement does to sentient beings.
@misterdeity but I'm still going to hell, right?
No no no! She it he is perfect. Is perfect boredom a possible thing?
@@knarf_on_a_bike well, duh!
Yeah; he couldn't even watch paint dry -- because it wouldn't! (Also there wasn't any paint.)
I almost forgot how much I enjoy your videos.
Great video
I've told Yahweh every day for about a week now to appear next to me and prove it exists in a meaningful way. For some reason, nothing happens every time. Hmmm....... 🤔
Ahh. I'm so sorry that you lost your little friend. I bet he had the best home ever.
Absolutely wonderful!!!
I still think WLC would make a great Batman villain.
Batman growls: Why did you kill those kids?
Low-Bar Bill: God wills it!
Nazi solders: Gott mitt uns!
The Baffler
The Bumbler.
eyebrowman.
@@whlewis9164 that’s Peterson!
Any faith that presents itself as the only truth feels doubt as its greatest enemy.
That doesn't really work though
I can claim that classical mathematics is the only true mathematics. That 2+2=4, and if someone says it equals 22 or 202 or any other number, then they're wrong.
Does that make me scared of doubt? Not at all. But they're just wrong is all.
@@Pedanta 2+2=4 is not a faith. It's a fact. And facts are truth. Faith and fact are each other opponent.
@@trstquint7114 I have faith in the US stock market. I have faith in the scientific method.
Faith is just an everyday word. The reason I have faith in the scientific method is because of evidence that it holds true and works.
Facts give me my faith in the US stock market. What's wrong with that?
@@Pedanta The danger for every FAITH that claims to have the truth is doubt.
A NOUN, NOT AS A VERB
The worldwide flood thingy was very effective at ending evil; that's why the 6 O'clock news is filled with heart warming stories about compassion and puppies. The Creator is prone to changing his mind though; he got very mad at people for "un-aliving" their kids in the Old Testament, but as years went by, he decided "un-aliving" your kids was such a good idea, he did it himself to please himself. Now we all patiently wait for his un-alived kid to come back and "fire" everyone that didn't accept the flimsy and deeply flawed stories he expected us to believe. Have a Nice Day. 🌄
The Exodus - angels must have trotted after the people with giant pooper scoopers. Tah-dah! Evidence handled.
Luna, The Crunchy Cat makes more sense than William Lane Craig. And all that Luna does is eat crunchy foods.
The first image of god is DarkMatter25, right? If so, well played!
Jesus was born of two virgins. That's a knee-slapper right there! ; )