The controller inputs for the soymilk desync are out of order. It's supposed to be dash, stick flick, NEUTRAL, then tilt stick, a or b input. (In the video it was dash, NEUTRAL, stick flick then input.)
@@shyivy6440 Half circle back: roll your controller down and away, like Ryu's Shakunetsu Hadouken, but backwards. So, if I'm running right, I input the following quickly and the desync occurs: →↘↓↙←→ A
Thank you very much, I wish I went more Indepth, I wanted to add more controller input overlays, But unfortunately I don't have the proper equipment for it.
I think it's the most comprehensive guide as well. You don't need to know smash-slang to be able to understand how the moves work. I just started playing smash and would love to wow my friends who have been playing 1+ year with some cool combo's. After a week learning goes slow though...
The crazy thing is that these are the baby desyncs, so many insane things have been found and optimised, and new things are found every other week If you're interested in some of the more optimised IC's stuff, look into Cheer Cancel, or if you'd like to try your hand at the theoretical limit for IC's desyncs, look at "tilt turn" and "blizzdash from tilt turn" , it's insanely hard (the blizzdash variant requires 7 very precise inputs in about 10 frames)
I'll probably remake this video eventually, some of the stuff is a little outdated, everything still works perfectly though. My computer broke recently so it may take a while.
Hey! I came across your channel and this is amazing for a new beginner ice climber main like me. In fact I stopped playing smash for a really long time but playing ice climbers re-motivated me to improve and I remembered why I loved this game so much.. . You're video's are very helpful, and they just give a good idea of everything you can do with them, I also feel like you really enjoy making those video and that there is a good amount of effort put into them ;) One thing I would love is to have a full guide of how to use them in a real match, like weaknesses and advantages, best options ect... The reason is because I'm still not a really amazing player and have a lot of trouble punishing errors and just doing great in a lot of matches (I hope it will come with training and time) This is because I found very very few video talking about how to play as ice climbers in general... Like if you were to make a entire video about god that this would be amazing, but I understand how long, difficult ect... It would be just for a simple video. This is just what I feel like I would need and a suggestion don't worry about anything lol Also I'm slowly practicing those desync techniques but never attempted any during a online match, I can't think about any situation where I'm ready to do like a backdash kill or jab lock, plus the lag ect... I already struggle doing great so focusing about an opportunity like that Is really difficult And I also notice that I have a really hard time dealing with sword fighters with ice climbers. I don't know if that's just me, or that the match-up is really difficult for them. I always found myself unable to place any movement cause they move so fast and their hit box is huge ect... I feel like all of their attacks are more effective and faster than mine... I'm just wondering how would I deal with that Oh one last thing, I really enjoy the background picture you put between transition, are they made in smash itself? They look great :) This is just to say how I feel about all of that, and I really like how you're doing you're videos! I hope you continue to videos you enjoy and continue to improve! Thanks for reading ;)
Oh wow, this is an amazing comment, for some reason I was never notified about it on TH-cam, I'm disappointed I didn't see it earlier.. I'm going to make a new Ultimate Ice Climber Guide when I get my new computer so I'll add in a few tips for you, like when a desync is useful and how it should be used. I'd have to gloss over a couple of elements though, because ice climbers have a different play style against most characters. But I'll show you good counter plays to them in the video I hope. It'll probably take 2 weeks - 1 month to edit, if I don't lose motivation. You say most moves feel faster than icies, kinda thats true, but it could also be input lag. You can see what moves beat what by looking at the frame data online. Yes the transition images were made in Smash Thank you for your kind words and comment, its probably the best one I've received. I hope to see you improve.
@@shyivy6440 @ShyIvy @ShyIvy no problem, it's not your fault! I usually write a lot when making a comment so I put all I wanted to say! Thank you really much for listening to some of my questions I hope your video is going to help a lot of people, but don't overwork or don't make it too much time consuming for you, do what you enjoy :) I just don't want you to make a video only about what I asked, because I don't want you spending a lot of time making a video only for a single person lol I understand how difficult it can be to maintain motivation, and I hope I will not loose it too about smash and improve little by little! I'm sorry I don't really know more what to say, I just hope I helped you a bit and thank you for the response, have a great day!
Damn that's crazy how all these years I subconsciously doubted myself, and after giving it a try cuz why not, I can actually do some of this stuff this is crazy. Like how u even find this dawg lmao so much fun
I like when people show videos like this on how to play or manipulate tech with Icies rather giving me and essay full of words on tech without hardly any good visuals. Thank you for this amazing video:)
this really needs more views, I was trying to learn how soymilk and found a compete guide on all the relevant desyncs. You probably describe how to input them clearer than most other videos on desyncs. Is there any more tips for squall hammer? I know its a great combo tool but my followups on it are sometimes inconsistent, mostly when I'm trying to Nana squall > grab or something
Thank you very much, when i was first learning ice climbers i couldn't find any decent guides so i decided when i learnt, id make videos to help the people who were like me. I'm assuming you mean squall, as in nana only squall? or did you mean out of squall desync? so when grabbing opponents out of nana's squall, wait till they're touching the ground, can't grab them otherwise. Also you get a feeling for the timing after alot of practice. Some characters sometimes can't be grabbed out of squall like Bowser, King DeDeDe and King K Rool, Sometimes they can though. Also run ahead in anticipation so nana follows through with her squall. If you meant something else just tell me and I'll try help out
@@shyivy6440 Yes, you guessed right. I can desync out of squall fine, I just struggle to get consistent good followups, but I'm starting to get better at controlling it now. Thanks for the tips!
ShyIvy so funny the you reply because two days ago me and my friends made a bet saying that I couldn’t learn desyncs by the end of the year. So I know am trying to pick up ice climbers even tho it’s very difficult at the moment
I saw that you used tilt-stick, but do you also use tap jump? I’m thinking of switching from Bayo to Icies, and I’m unsure if I should keep it on. Does it have any uses?
In training mode, I discovered that the aerial landing lag desync also works with neutral b. I also noticed that the soymilk desync is harder than it looks
so far I think this is the best desync video I have watched. I have been trying all day to desync and this video has helped so much on my desync journey XD have the ice climbers changes recently changed the desync at all?
Thank you, im happy it could help. Al Ice Climber desyncs still works as of patch 9.0.0. Only thing they fixed was the Up, Nana's Ai, Nana's health and their Dsmash
This video is very well made compared to the other ones I have seen because you tell us what to do instead of just showing the inputs (you probably have gotten that alot by many people). I do have a question though: Is the soymilk outdated? I have been trying so long to get it and have never gotten it once even in 1/4 speed. I am running (not dashing) and then turning around and pressing "b" but nana always does it with popo for some reason. Thanks a lot for the video though
Thank you very much, I really wanted to help the people like me who couldn't understand the other tutorials. Soymilk still works. Dash for a while, turn to enter skid animation, make sure control stick is in the neutral position (no analog input), then turn in the opposite direction within 3 - 5 frames, then within 3 - 5 frames enter either a special move or a tilt stick move. Make sure you're quick. If you still need help feel free to ask.
@@shyivy6440 Oh I realized what I got wrong. After running I just flicked the stick in the opposite direction instead of going to neutral first. It works now thank you
so far ive been fairly consistent and inconsistent with my back dash desync, and i seem to be having trouble geting the jab desync because both do the jab, but im learning as im in the lab and watching many tutorials. im about 5hrs in on this
whiff grab aint good offensive ofc but if you keep blizzbeaters in mind and mix up with side b accordingly its such a great offensive option because you can instantly input it when you get a wrong read. Also an easy set up for telegraphed recoveries that go over the ledge like chrom's for example. Just whiff grab into nana fair.
Face your back to opponent. Tap Dash towards them from a small distance. Before the grab make sure there isn't any stick input, aka don't hold forward Get grab, pummel jab once in quick succession (for timings purposes) fthrow keep holding towards the ledge from the fthrow input jump (x), A (attack) [to make nana fair] Make sure you do the fair straight after the fthrow (you only have to press x and a for the fair because you should already be holding towards the ledge after the fthrow)
@@shyivy6440 I think i was trying to do the inputs to fast which resulted in the stick not being in the neutral posifion, but i got it now! Thanks for the help
@@lorian7101 Soymilk is easy, just run to forward for a bit, don't dash and then flick the stick in the other direction and tab b and popo should to ice block while nana does nothing
@@lorian7101 tbh i dont use bthrow fsmash very often in my play style. it's possible to do, but you have to be quick and it depends on your desync method i believe
I'm having trouble (and have been for years) of getting soymilk. I was hoping to gain insight to my problem on your video, but it appears the slowed controller inputs don't match the animation, so I can't get a clear picture of the frame window to execute. When I do a frame-by-frame in training mode, it appears I have a two frame window between joystick inputs. My controller hardware doesn't seem to support such a quick and precise change to make this reliable. Any info on the frames required between the turn around, return to neutral, and attack input? Any requirements before the initial dash? I see pros inputting a nair before they begin the dash, and that seems to help somewhat. Any links to another video breaking this down more? I tend to do the other desyncs as they are more reliable for me.
My guess is that my few controllers all have a hardware deficiencies, like snap-back. The reason for thinking this is that if I am diligent in making the turnaround the SLIGHTEST of a tilt, it seems more consistent. However, this focus on controller precision never seems to translate in a match, and I end up with a very unsafe move not protected by the desync. If this is the case, it's a shame that my gamecube controller, my pro controller and my joycons are all bad at it.
@@ClintonChelak As soon as you enter the skidding animation by flicking the stick in the other direction from your run let go of the move stick and as soon as humanly possible flick the tilt/c-stick in the other direction. (doesn't work with smash stick). you can replace c-stick step with jab or neutral special.
@@shyivy6440 as I posted in another reply, I've found doing a half circle back, then forward input works for me (HCB > F A/B). This is largely because I've been playing KOF 98, but it gets me the desync consistently, and I don't have to worry about joystick performance.
Hey great guide dude. But I wanted to ask if you knew this other grab desync. It's a cheer cancel but when you grab nana does a little short hop after u grab
yeah i know how to do that, it's like jab desync, do a little dash into your opponent and tap grab button, then very quickly after slide your finger from jump to a button. so x to a. and if you did it quick enough nana will do the short hop during the grab. your joy-stick has to be in the neutral position during the grab and x,a inputs.
@@shyivy6440 Hm interesting. Bc when I do it it either doesn't come out or I just pummel. But thank you so much I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong eventually haha.
@@Ntmonmegng I wouldn't recommend playing with joy-cons personally, but whatever feels comfortable for you should be fine. There is some timing. Maybe I can help you in a Arena if you'd like?
Also i cant seem to do the soy milk desync. Im entering run, then flicking the stick back to enter skid, then immediately doing a tilt attack, but they always attack at the same time
Thank you, for the whiff grab, you have to tap grab and hold b, make sure you don't press the buttons at the same time, but almost. Like 1 frame apart.
I have a question sometimes when i try the footstool it doesn't work. I mean it does works but the ice climber is then to high and i cant do the whole combo anymore :/
Do you know how to set up combos vs real players it is so hard for me to get an combo on a real player bc they are sometimes to fast and i cant grab them
Try get them to shield buy lobbing ice blocks, or with a blizz wall, of they shield Nana's Blizz grab them and start a combo before Nana's Blizz ends. Or you can do Soymilk ftilt, Nana Blizz Grab you can guess where they're going to be and grab there You can do alot
There's an easier way to do it now, dash back grab hold a+b dthrow just before opponent hits ground release a+b Also the fthrow one has odd timing it's like dashback grab wait for a quick second hold fsmash+dthrow
Me using beginner combos in desync only doing 44 damage and in training mode getting destroyed by everyone, getting 3 stocked me see's this video:...* Few hours later In a fight * OH your choosing your "Ice climber main" Try grabbing me that's all you know how to do *Few minutes later* WHAT I WAS AT 0
(pretty much everything lol) but with the backdash forward throw fair how exactly are you inputting it, a lot of times I get normal forward throw, for instance what am I doing wrong there? I’ve gotten it maybe like 2 times but since I don’t know where I’m messing up idk how to get it more consistently.
@@Shaiahable Learn the desyncs one by one, or you'll have a hard time Dashback is kinda weird and has specific timings. Its: Face your back to opponent. Tap Dash towards them from a small distance. Before the grab make sure there isn't any stick input, aka don't hold forward Get grab, pummel jab once in quick succession (for timings purposes) fthrow keep holding towards the ledge from the fthrow input jump (x), A (attack) [to make nana fair] Make sure you do the fair straight after the fthrow (you only have to press x and a for the fair because you should already be holding towards the ledge after the fthrow) message me if this helps, and you get it If you need more help ask me for my discord
I need a serious in depth thing. Like I need someone showing me what to do with the buttons cuz I'm trying EVERYTHING and nothings working I've been practicing for hours tryna get the first 3
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The controller inputs for the soymilk desync are out of order. It's supposed to be dash, stick flick, NEUTRAL, then tilt stick, a or b input. (In the video it was dash, NEUTRAL, stick flick then input.)
Nice pfp
Another nice input for this can be dash > HCB > F + attack. This can be useful to people accustomed to traditional fighters.
@@ClintonChelak Hcb?
@@shyivy6440 Half circle back: roll your controller down and away, like Ryu's Shakunetsu Hadouken, but backwards. So, if I'm running right, I input the following quickly and the desync occurs: →↘↓↙←→ A
Mm... I still can't do the soymilk one. I don't understand why. I'm doing exactly as you say.
This is truly awesome probably the most complete guide on desync
Thank you very much, I wish I went more Indepth, I wanted to add more controller input overlays, But unfortunately I don't have the proper equipment for it.
True
I think it's the most comprehensive guide as well. You don't need to know smash-slang to be able to understand how the moves work. I just started playing smash and would love to wow my friends who have been playing 1+ year with some cool combo's. After a week learning goes slow though...
Dang, so many new and awesome desyncs since release.
The crazy thing is that these are the baby desyncs, so many insane things have been found and optimised, and new things are found every other week
If you're interested in some of the more optimised IC's stuff, look into Cheer Cancel, or if you'd like to try your hand at the theoretical limit for IC's desyncs, look at "tilt turn" and "blizzdash from tilt turn" , it's insanely hard (the blizzdash variant requires 7 very precise inputs in about 10 frames)
Woah, No way!
GimR in my comment section, I'm honored.
The music basically makes this desyncs you can chill and relax to
Haha yeah :)
I'll probably remake this video eventually, some of the stuff is a little outdated, everything still works perfectly though.
My computer broke recently so it may take a while.
Hey I'm having troubling doing desync in 9.0, any idea why
@@titosdoritos They all still work, what problems are you having?
Just came across your guide, it's the most informative one I've seen so far, thank you for it. Would love a remake 👍🏾
@@TheResidence.mp4 Thank you! I appreciate. A soon as soon as i get a new pc I'll fully remake it and add a few desyncs i accidentally missed
Remember chain grabs in smash 64 melee and brawl and smash 4 gain grabs are plan dumb and in melee and brawl ice Climber's has gain grabs
Check Description for Timestamps
And Links to more Indepth Tutorials.
Are you a nice guy or bad person
It's Been 3,000 Years....... And I still suck With Icies, Great Guide Man!
Haha Thank you very much :)
@@shyivy6440 what’s the background music
@@yungrex6296 It's in the description, but it's called Zelda & Chill on YT by Gamechops
Hey! I came across your channel and this is amazing for a new beginner ice climber main like me.
In fact I stopped playing smash for a really long time but playing ice climbers re-motivated me to improve and I remembered why I loved this game so much.. .
You're video's are very helpful, and they just give a good idea of everything you can do with them, I also feel like you really enjoy making those video and that there is a good amount of effort put into them ;)
One thing I would love is to have a full guide of how to use them in a real match, like weaknesses and advantages, best options ect...
The reason is because I'm still not a really amazing player and have a lot of trouble punishing errors and just doing great in a lot of matches (I hope it will come with training and time)
This is because I found very very few video talking about how to play as ice climbers in general...
Like if you were to make a entire video about god that this would be amazing, but I understand how long, difficult ect... It would be just for a simple video. This is just what I feel like I would need and a suggestion don't worry about anything lol
Also I'm slowly practicing those desync techniques but never attempted any during a online match, I can't think about any situation where I'm ready to do like a backdash kill or jab lock, plus the lag ect... I already struggle doing great so focusing about an opportunity like that Is really difficult
And I also notice that I have a really hard time dealing with sword fighters with ice climbers. I don't know if that's just me, or that the match-up is really difficult for them. I always found myself unable to place any movement cause they move so fast and their hit box is huge ect...
I feel like all of their attacks are more effective and faster than mine...
I'm just wondering how would I deal with that
Oh one last thing, I really enjoy the background picture you put between transition, are they made in smash itself? They look great :)
This is just to say how I feel about all of that, and I really like how you're doing you're videos! I hope you continue to videos you enjoy and continue to improve!
Thanks for reading ;)
Oh wow, this is an amazing comment, for some reason I was never notified about it on TH-cam, I'm disappointed I didn't see it earlier..
I'm going to make a new Ultimate Ice Climber Guide when I get my new computer so I'll add in a few tips for you, like when a desync is useful and how it should be used.
I'd have to gloss over a couple of elements though, because ice climbers have a different play style against most characters. But I'll show you good counter plays to them in the video I hope.
It'll probably take 2 weeks - 1 month to edit, if I don't lose motivation.
You say most moves feel faster than icies, kinda thats true, but it could also be input lag. You can see what moves beat what by looking at the frame data online.
Yes the transition images were made in Smash
Thank you for your kind words and comment, its probably the best one I've received. I hope to see you improve.
@@shyivy6440 @ShyIvy @ShyIvy no problem, it's not your fault!
I usually write a lot when making a comment so I put all I wanted to say!
Thank you really much for listening to some of my questions
I hope your video is going to help a lot of people, but don't overwork or don't make it too much time consuming for you, do what you enjoy :)
I just don't want you to make a video only about what I asked, because I don't want you spending a lot of time making a video only for a single person lol
I understand how difficult it can be to maintain motivation, and I hope I will not loose it too about smash and improve little by little!
I'm sorry I don't really know more what to say, I just hope I helped you a bit and thank you for the response, have a great day!
Dude, thank u so much, I was looking EXACTLY for that. There is everything I need, keep up great work !
Thank you! Happy to help
Damn that's crazy how all these years I subconsciously doubted myself, and after giving it a try cuz why not, I can actually do some of this stuff this is crazy. Like how u even find this dawg lmao so much fun
im finally able to do the soymilk desyncccc tysm!!
I'm happy to hear that!
Good to see you makin content man
Thanks 😊
Looked at the timestamps and found out I knew all of them (phew) but i’ll watch anyway
Haha Thank you!
I like when people show videos like this on how to play or manipulate tech with Icies rather giving me and essay full of words on tech without hardly any good visuals. Thank you for this amazing video:)
Thats mostly why I made the videos, to help people like that. Thanks for your appreciation :)
Easily one of the best desync videos and with a chill vibe to boot this video was dope man hope you keep it up
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it
this really needs more views, I was trying to learn how soymilk and found a compete guide on all the relevant desyncs. You probably describe how to input them clearer than most other videos on desyncs. Is there any more tips for squall hammer? I know its a great combo tool but my followups on it are sometimes inconsistent, mostly when I'm trying to Nana squall > grab or something
Thank you very much, when i was first learning ice climbers i couldn't find any decent guides so i decided when i learnt, id make videos to help the people who were like me.
I'm assuming you mean squall, as in nana only squall? or did you mean out of squall desync?
so when grabbing opponents out of nana's squall, wait till they're touching the ground, can't grab them otherwise. Also you get a feeling for the timing after alot of practice. Some characters sometimes can't be grabbed out of squall like Bowser, King DeDeDe and King K Rool, Sometimes they can though.
Also run ahead in anticipation so nana follows through with her squall.
If you meant something else just tell me and I'll try help out
@@shyivy6440 Yes, you guessed right. I can desync out of squall fine, I just struggle to get consistent good followups, but I'm starting to get better at controlling it now. Thanks for the tips!
@@RubberD3 No problem :)
You in that one smash taunt episode when G&W was grabbed by ice climbers
I see why Nana eyes was demonic.
Which one?
@@shyivy6440 um I think the last one
Cheer cancel, tilt turn, dash dance buffer, hitstun desync, different dairs, belay desync, nanatrump are all very useful
Yeah this tutorial is very outdated
Look I don't main icies or really plan to but they're super fun to play and this video seems awesome. Props to you!
Thanks! They are fun to play ☺️
The video is so good. Most of them are easy to understand and work after a few try.
Thank you, im glad it could help
This video makes me want to learn these desyncs and main ice climbers
I encourage it, its alot of fun, but it's also an Uphill battle against most of the cast in my opinion.
ShyIvy so funny the you reply because two days ago me and my friends made a bet saying that I couldn’t learn desyncs by the end of the year. So I know am trying to pick up ice climbers even tho it’s very difficult at the moment
@@Amiiido Haha that is funny. Trust me, if you just keep practicing you'll learn it very quickly. I've seen people learn desyncs in just 2 days
ShyIvy i only tried to desync yesterday and I got to say the easiest way for me to desync is up b but that’s very practical outside of training mode
@@Amiiido It has it's uses
Comment for the algorithm thanks for the video it is probably the largest collection of ic stuff.
Thank you! I'm working on a bigger one
I saw that you used tilt-stick, but do you also use tap jump? I’m thinking of switching from Bayo to Icies, and I’m unsure if I should keep it on. Does it have any uses?
I don't use tap jump, it can mess up your desyncs
In training mode, I discovered that the aerial landing lag desync also works with neutral b. I also noticed that the soymilk desync is harder than it looks
so far I think this is the best desync video I have watched. I have been trying all day to desync and this video has helped so much on my desync journey XD have the ice climbers changes recently changed the desync at all?
Thank you, im happy it could help. Al Ice Climber desyncs still works as of patch 9.0.0. Only thing they fixed was the Up, Nana's Ai, Nana's health and their Dsmash
This video is very well made compared to the other ones I have seen because you tell us what to do instead of just showing the inputs (you probably have gotten that alot by many people). I do have a question though: Is the soymilk outdated? I have been trying so long to get it and have never gotten it once even in 1/4 speed. I am running (not dashing) and then turning around and pressing "b" but nana always does it with popo for some reason. Thanks a lot for the video though
Thank you very much, I really wanted to help the people like me who couldn't understand the other tutorials.
Soymilk still works. Dash for a while, turn to enter skid animation, make sure control stick is in the neutral position (no analog input), then turn in the opposite direction within 3 - 5 frames, then within 3 - 5 frames enter either a special move or a tilt stick move. Make sure you're quick.
If you still need help feel free to ask.
@@shyivy6440 Oh I realized what I got wrong. After running I just flicked the stick in the opposite direction instead of going to neutral first. It works now thank you
so far ive been fairly consistent and inconsistent with my back dash desync, and i seem to be having trouble geting the jab desync because both do the jab, but im learning as im in the lab and watching many tutorials. im about 5hrs in on this
Yeaah new combos, thanks, I'll try them
Good Luck
This is seriously a good video, thank you for making it :)
It's consise and informative and just really helpful lol
What's the exact frame and stuff you input the fair for the dash back fair spike?
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Good video nice editing helped a lot
Great stuff !
Thank you!
Remember chain grabs in smash 64 melee and brawl and smash 4 gain grabs are plan dumb and in melee and brawl ice climbers has gain grabs
great video TY
Thanks for watching it!
This video is amazing
Are the back dash smash attacks possible with tilt stick? I can only do the spike unless i’m using smash stick
Yep its possible. use smash with a + control stick
@@shyivy6440 thanks! subbed
@@dynaxfan ah thanks!!
Thanks i Learned some things
Do you know the one where popo let's say does a down throw and nana will shield after the slam while u do an attack?
Yep, I made a video on it, its called the murasat set up
Me before watching video:
"I rlly wanna main them!"
Me after watching video:
"Oh.... nvm I guess 😢"
whiff grab aint good offensive ofc but if you keep blizzbeaters in mind and mix up with side b accordingly its such a great offensive option because you can instantly input it when you get a wrong read. Also an easy set up for telegraphed recoveries that go over the ledge like chrom's for example. Just whiff grab into nana fair.
I cant get the backdash desync down. I can do cheerless grabs with a spot dodge and roll but nor backdash...
Face your back to opponent.
Tap Dash towards them from a small distance.
Before the grab make sure there isn't any stick input, aka don't hold forward
Get grab, pummel jab once in quick succession (for timings purposes)
fthrow
keep holding towards the ledge from the fthrow input
jump (x), A (attack)
[to make nana fair]
Make sure you do the fair straight after the fthrow
(you only have to press x and a for the fair because you should already be holding towards the ledge after the fthrow)
@@shyivy6440 I think i was trying to do the inputs to fast which resulted in the stick not being in the neutral posifion, but i got it now! Thanks for the help
@@slothriver Awesome, im glad you figured it out
5:16 the combo should've failed since there was a minor spelling mistake here.
RIP
Thank you i was able to do my first desync thanks to you
Glad I could help
how to do forward soymilk without turning around? It's very difficult.
Run forward, skid turn, and do foward tilt in your original direction and input an move for nana, and you should desync
i hope that makes sense
So lost in this, I can do all but that tech soymilk
@@lorian7101 Soymilk is easy, just run to forward for a bit, don't dash
and then flick the stick in the other direction and tab b
and popo should to ice block while nana does nothing
@@shyivy6440 okay, any suggestions or trick for back throw-fsmash. I can do it perfectly up 2/3 speed and then full it's not fast enough to hit
@@lorian7101 tbh i dont use bthrow fsmash very often in my play style. it's possible to do, but you have to be quick and it depends on your desync method i believe
I'm having trouble (and have been for years) of getting soymilk. I was hoping to gain insight to my problem on your video, but it appears the slowed controller inputs don't match the animation, so I can't get a clear picture of the frame window to execute. When I do a frame-by-frame in training mode, it appears I have a two frame window between joystick inputs. My controller hardware doesn't seem to support such a quick and precise change to make this reliable.
Any info on the frames required between the turn around, return to neutral, and attack input? Any requirements before the initial dash? I see pros inputting a nair before they begin the dash, and that seems to help somewhat. Any links to another video breaking this down more? I tend to do the other desyncs as they are more reliable for me.
My guess is that my few controllers all have a hardware deficiencies, like snap-back. The reason for thinking this is that if I am diligent in making the turnaround the SLIGHTEST of a tilt, it seems more consistent. However, this focus on controller precision never seems to translate in a match, and I end up with a very unsafe move not protected by the desync. If this is the case, it's a shame that my gamecube controller, my pro controller and my joycons are all bad at it.
@@ClintonChelak As soon as you enter the skidding animation by flicking the stick in the other direction from your run let go of the move stick and as soon as humanly possible flick the tilt/c-stick in the other direction. (doesn't work with smash stick). you can replace c-stick step with jab or neutral special.
@@shyivy6440 as I posted in another reply, I've found doing a half circle back, then forward input works for me (HCB > F A/B). This is largely because I've been playing KOF 98, but it gets me the desync consistently, and I don't have to worry about joystick performance.
can the ice climbers desync off of slingshot?
Hey great guide dude. But I wanted to ask if you knew this other grab desync. It's a cheer cancel but when you grab nana does a little short hop after u grab
yeah i know how to do that, it's like jab desync, do a little dash into your opponent and tap grab button, then very quickly after slide your finger from jump to a button. so x to a. and if you did it quick enough nana will do the short hop during the grab. your joy-stick has to be in the neutral position during the grab and x,a inputs.
@@shyivy6440 Hm interesting. Bc when I do it it either doesn't come out or I just pummel. But thank you so much I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong eventually haha.
@@Ntmonmegng you have to be very very quick, only do a tap dash before x and a, don't do a full run over
@@shyivy6440 Damn that shit is hard. Is there like specific timing. I actually have my jump binded to Y because I play on joycon. Could that be it?
@@Ntmonmegng I wouldn't recommend playing with joy-cons personally, but whatever feels comfortable for you should be fine. There is some timing. Maybe I can help you in a Arena if you'd like?
I slowed it down to frame and pressed b each frame after shield , but nothing happened :(
you have to hold b
Whenever I try soymilk nana has a dash attack inputted in the opposite direction. Has anyone else had that issue?
Is the fair desync a just frame input or am i doing something wrong? Seems like theres a lot more leniency with nair and up air desyncs
Also i cant seem to do the soy milk desync. Im entering run, then flicking the stick back to enter skid, then immediately doing a tilt attack, but they always attack at the same time
Praise God 🙏🏾
question please is this physically available on joy cons cus ion got a game cube controller
Its possible, just much harder
@@shyivy6440😭🙌🏽 it is so difficult
@@yeameow Lol yeah it is without practice
@@shyivy6440 i got the squall desync down but the others r so hard this guide helps ❤️
@@yeameow Im glad
good video
Thank you 😊😊😊
I have a question again. When you footstooled u went to the left but when i footstool i go automatically to the right. Is there a reason why?)
Timestamp?
2:38
Omg plz answer
@@godliebudefi8885 I airdodge straight down, your probably airdodge down left,
Ok
Somehow I can't get the whiff desync but the jab is easy for me, any tips? Also great desync tutorial👍
Thank you, for the whiff grab, you have to tap grab and hold b, make sure you don't press the buttons at the same time, but almost. Like 1 frame apart.
@@shyivy6440 Okay, thanks for the help!
im still trash w ice climbers but great vid!
practice makes perfect :)
Hey in the squall Desync I’m having trouble getting my opponent to be on top of me. Can you help me out?
Near the end of squall start spamming B, practise the timing and it will become muscle memory.
ShyIvy ok ty
Was whiff grab changed? Each time I buffer neutral b during the grab they just both end up doing it.
You have to do it extremely fast after pressing grab.
Just press grab, not hold. Then immediately hold b
I have a question sometimes when i try the footstool it doesn't work. I mean it does works but the ice climber is then to high and i cant do the whole combo anymore :/
Which footstool combo
Like the footstool side b
Grab, downtrow, blizzard, up tilt, footstool side b, grab, spike
Up air*
But i think i know why
Do you know how to set up combos vs real players it is so hard for me to get an combo on a real player bc they are sometimes to fast and i cant grab them
Pls give me some tips
Try get them to shield buy lobbing ice blocks, or with a blizz wall, of they shield Nana's Blizz grab them and start a combo before Nana's Blizz ends.
Or you can do Soymilk ftilt, Nana Blizz Grab
you can guess where they're going to be and grab there
You can do alot
Are any of these patched?
these desyncs look easier than it is
however its easier to master to use when mastered(by easier i mean wayyy easier)
can you teach us how to do the murasat
Sure, I'll try
@@shyivy6440 great video! I'm struggling hard on the murasat and the cheer cancel where nana jumps.
@@agentrandom I'll make a video on those next
@@shyivy6440 that's so kind, thanks!
@@agentrandom No Problem
Its everything still working?
They seem hard for me to combo off of the desync
Can you still whiff grab desync
Yes, you can!
@@shyivy6440 really
@@rainbowchap6973 Yep
Man I can’t even do the whiff grab desync properly, I guess I’m just not meant to play ice climbers well lol
When I tried Forward throw in to forward air it didn't work
When you get the last grab, wait for nana just about finish Squall then input fthrow fair in quick succession
@@shyivy6440 I never know that I could do that Such a thing
@@shyivy6440 I also Did that but I Couldn't get it to work
@@shyivy6440 I got down tilt into forward air
@@shyivy6440 Come to my new arena ID
bro, for the life of me i can not get the fmash to work. nana cheers every time but for some reason i can get the fair spike is consistently.
There's an easier way to do it now, dash back
grab
hold a+b
dthrow
just before opponent hits ground release a+b
Also the fthrow one has odd timing
it's like
dashback
grab
wait for a quick second
hold fsmash+dthrow
MrDanishbutterCookie main ice Climber's
Most of his clips aren't him, It's a different guy named Star
@@shyivy6440 Are you deca from the Twitter user name
Remember chain grabs in smash 64 melee and brawl and smash 4 gain grabs are plan dumb and in melee and brawl ice climbers has chain grabs
@@NathanGaming395ngGamer Yeah, it's broken
@@NathanGaming395ngGamer No, im not lol
Sheild and shield
Me using beginner combos in desync only doing 44 damage and in training mode getting destroyed by everyone, getting 3 stocked me see's this video:...* Few hours later In a fight *
OH your choosing your "Ice climber main"
Try grabbing me that's all you know how to do
*Few minutes later*
WHAT I WAS AT 0
I before E unless after C dude. You got it wrong every time.
Did I make a spelling error somewhere ?
@@shyivy6440 Every instance of "shield" and I believe there was another word with ie where you wrote ei. Great guide nonetheless
@@Gankstomper
aw darn, I'll fix it
I cant do the easiest ones 😢
I can’t do it
Do what? Which one?
(pretty much everything lol) but with the backdash forward throw fair how exactly are you inputting it, a lot of times I get normal forward throw, for instance what am I doing wrong there? I’ve gotten it maybe like 2 times but since I don’t know where I’m messing up idk how to get it more consistently.
@@Shaiahable
Learn the desyncs one by one, or you'll have a hard time
Dashback is kinda weird and has specific timings.
Its:
Face your back to opponent.
Tap Dash towards them from a small distance.
Before the grab make sure there isn't any stick input, aka don't hold forward
Get grab, pummel jab once in quick succession (for timings purposes)
fthrow
keep holding towards the ledge from the fthrow input
jump (x), A (attack)
[to make nana fair]
Make sure you do the fair straight after the fthrow
(you only have to press x and a for the fair because you should already be holding towards the ledge after the fthrow)
message me if this helps, and you get it
If you need more help ask me for my discord
@@shyivy6440 omg thank you so much I got it 3 times in a row on both left and right side!
Yea what’s your discord? I’ll ask more stuff on there
Still don’t get it lol
I need a serious in depth thing. Like I need someone showing me what to do with the buttons cuz I'm trying EVERYTHING and nothings working I've been practicing for hours tryna get the first 3
I'm working on an even more indepth video
@@shyivy6440 tysm! Cant wait!
This char is too hard to use online such a shame