I could have sworn the prices for these modern staples used to be much higher. Hopefully, no one went all in on modern staples instead of reserve list...
I have been able to slap a couple of Modern and Legecy decks together because of the singles market. I never would have guessed that cards like Thoughtsieze would be around $10. Some of the older staple cards have been dropping too - if you can afford it, now is a good time to soak up some really solid cards at a great price.
@@justinschaumburg2708 That depends on your needs and budget, to be honest. Land is still pretty expensive, but a lot of great Modern staples were reprinted in Double Masters. For example, I snagged a playset of Bitterblossom, Dark Confidant, Thoughtsieze, Goblin Guide, Noble Hierarch, Fatal Push and a ton of singles to upgrade my Commander decks (Avenger of Zendikar, Blood Moon, Mana Reflection, Mana Echoes, Toxic Deluge, ect) - all of those were just a list of targets I that had from Double Masters. Some of the older version dropped in price because of the reprints, so I snagged as many as I could of the cards listed above. I prefer the old MTG art style, so I always compare the reprint price with the older print(s) - if you have patience and some decent timing, you can walk away with great cards and keep money in your pocket. lol. You have to hunt and keep an eye on cards that you are interested in. I always wanted to build a mono black aggro Legacy deck and was able to with the price drops on Bitterblossom, Thoughsieze and Dark Confidant. Goblin Guide easily improved one of my aggro Modern decks - I couldn't justify the older price tag when I first built the deck....but at $5 and under, it was a no brainer and upped the power level of that deck (along with a couple of other cards).
@@Apollo-vh3tb thanks for the thoroughness of your answer! Yeah all those are great cards. I primarily play EDH so i didn't know those cards were also good in Modern and Legacy.
Haha. No matter how high Rudy goes, no matter how high Rudy gets on apple cider fungis, he'll never outpace the same box opening conundrum. "Amazing!" "What a pull!" "I haven't seen this in ten boxes!" Then, "S/He's maybe made their money back from the opening! Holy crap!" (S/he hasn't, unless it's Standard foolery) (Holy crap)
Same value would mean breaking even and with these you never do; just a giant hose fest, among curled foils, dingy dark foils, lack of value in high end slots, print lines, and a retail price of “go fuck yourself” per pack. Whoever buys these and collectors boxes are straight timmys or want to spend money so they have a hole in their pockets.
Let me lay some facts on you, Mana Crypt is the most expensive card he pulled and sells for roughly $150 in foil showcase. Even if every showcase mythic he pull was a Mana Crypt he would still be out $100. Force is the most expensive at $250 and the others fall off sharply not even hitting $100, so I'd say he probably lost close to $500-$600.
They’ve honestly done a “good” job of getting desirable reprints into these sets. Fatal push was reprinted in mystery boosters and double masters and took the base price to under $1. The highest price cards: FoW, crypt, etc. we’re very well targeted to push them under $100. From the perspective of making modern magic more accessible 2020 has been a great success.
Rudy, I have this debate about reprinting cards all the time with people. For example, people complain so much about fetch lands. And I am wondering just how often do we need to reprint them? There are 5 different printings of these cards to date. I mean do we need to reprint them every year? So we should just have a rotating set of staple cards that are sought after every year? People don't realize that they are standing on the shoulders of people who came before them that made the game a success by both investing/collecting and playing the game. The game would not be where it is today and not be as popular if there was not a chance to pull a chase card and hit a card that could be worth $50 or $100 later down the line. If you keep reprinting cards over and over you lose one part of the game and this causes a cascading effect. Sales go down, R&D suffers, the games suffers further putting downward pressure on the sales and now less people play and now you can get cards for $1 a piece but you have no one to play with.
I couldn't agree with you more. People say well we need staples to play the game at a low price. I say you have all the staples you need to play the game. You have lands and creatures and planeswalkers, instances, artifacts, etc. And you have them all in $3-$4 pack that is currently available and in print.
@@theshadymax2627 Yeah, there's that too. Everyone wants everything for next to nothing driving the value of everything down. Same people want participation trophies that everyone gets the same one of thus making them worthless. Despite what people think, chase cards are good for the game. Reprints are fine if they are done responsibly. You can't reprint fetch lands in an $80 product each year. You either have to space it out or put it in a premium product or premium form that keeps the value high.
I have six cases of this product and I feel like I will be sitting on this for about 10 years. And the reason I do not open any is because I would just keep opening until I get a Full art Foil Force of Will. I think the card is great. So I might as well just buy it on the secondary market and call it a day instead of opening $3000+ worth of product. (edited to add the last part)
@@sam-of6lv Hahaha, true. Yeah, you wins some, you lose some. It was not the best investment and I will have to ride it out. But at the same time I blew it out with Flesh and blood that has more than made up for it by acquiring 12 boxes of the 1st set, 19 of the second set and 12 of the third. I have sold 8 boxes for $14k with a cost basis of $650 or so.
@@Short_Stories_Inc Otherwise I would have been in rough shape with the VIP boxes. I really did think these would do well long term and they still might but it is obviously not looking good 6 month in.
I bought 3 packs at my LGS and pulled 2 foil full art forces and a sword of fire and ice. Im not allowing myself to buy any more because I know I would just be disappointed.
different printers on different locations.. not strange at all. A carlsberg made in denmark doesnt taste the same as one made in US. Different raws, methods and equipments.
@@zap7759 Though, availability and gameplay is directly affected by this in a positive manner. More players get to purchase stables at a reasonable price and get to construct higher tier decks without having to proxy 20+ cards for a deck. I'm happy about this outcome, especially since I don't see magic as an investment, like you all do, but a hobby. And my hobby is getting treated good lately ;)
@@Flazhness magic isnt as expensive as you people make it out to be, and ill never understand that argument. You can make a tier 1 mono red deck for 60£ lol. Tier 1 rogues cost around 80-90£ You guys need to go get some actual jobs and calm down. If you want expensive, go spend 170£ on a pokemon deck that gets rotated out every couple months and countered every week at the next tourney.
@@OrphanCrippler1 your cheap decks are good for a few months at best, imagine playing with the same deck for that long. Go proxy and get better quality cards for 1% of the price and you'll play whatever you want whenever
@@31sebman Mono red has been good throughout magics entire life cycle lmao. Wtf are you talking about? Why would i want to proxy for standard and commander?? You realise entire decks dont cycle out of standard right? Just one set at a time...
@@OrphanCrippler1 why would you proxy for commander?! Gee that's a good question, I wonder if I should have paid a grand each for my 5 cradles instead of 2$...
Just because Wotc is a garbage company doesn’t mean you have to abandon mtg. Heck, I don’t buy boxes and still play modern fnm every Friday I can at my lgs, supporting them buying old singles and sleeves and such.
@@scarmvt I didn't expect them to be THIS trash! They've really shown their colors in 2020 & it'll only get worse in 2021 & beyond. And to think at one point I wanted to work for them.
@@LesGrossman69 thanks for the offer but I'd just go to my local lgs and unload things. I've been a loyal customer to him through 3 or 4 location changes & he's become a dear friend. Far more than just a "store owner".
We played modern at our shop tonight. Still a lot of people. Even though it isn't sanctioned by wotc. We all had masked and there was temperature check. Then still quite a few stayed around and traded.
@@Q-Bits8 modern was created because the revised duals were getting up to $100 each and manabases were unaffordable. Now the fetches are up to $100 and instead of reprinting them in a large enough quantity and low priced booster to drive the price down (that was the whole point of modern) they just made Pioneer. Reprints didn't kill, it lack of reprints did.
But my take is they just think the game is so old now the company it's just there's no value in anymore it feels like so they're just trying to bring cooler modern cards to the table for people to buy because like I said in my reply to Rudy the game is just old and there's just too many people out there who have too many good cards that cost a shitload of money and it's just tanking the cards value so the only thing they can do is make badass looking cards to try to bring the value back up but they can't because there's other better card games such as the live game called Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon
@@jovdam you must not fully understand .......I am real adult human I invest in things that's going to improve the human race not on cardboard pieces of paper thank you but don't get me wrong I do love card games it's just I don't invest in pieces of paper I'd rather invest in things than prove human race of course you're going to say they improved the human mind so to each is their own nobody's neither right or wrong anyway that's just how I feel about cards in general soooo have a awesome 2021
I expect there to be more reprinting of the modern staples this year. WoTc logic being, if they can increase the supply of the core modern cards and make them cheaper, they can then get more people to buy into the format. While planning to print modern format warping cards in newer sets, such as Modern Horizon 2, and the newer standard sets. They can then ban the cards from standard, and let them break a pre existing deck or create new decks in modern that will out tier the reprinted modern decks. Driving demand for the newly printed and also other older cards by the people who bought in. Best example of this was Once Upon a Time from Throne, the card broke Amulet Titan. I can only image the sales of Titans, Amulets, and Pact's sky rocketed. While they also cashed in on $20(Cnd) Once Upon a Time's before it got banned, and plummeted in price.
I totally agree with the ramble by the way! It's so scary to get cards not knowing whether or not the price will be chopped in half in the next month cuz over print it again
I enjoyed the insight at the end. I dont know what the community wants! People want value/expected value but then want the game to be accessible. Rudy is right. WOTC needs to decide if Magic is going to be a brand or game. I thought for sure Magic Arena was going to solve the problem. It's not doing a great job of accessibility.
@@aaronvincent816 I noticed that, too. I wonder if there may be some shady manipulation of the “randomness” of packs. Because 4 of 16 packs had the same combination of rares. Small sample size, sure, but something’s up
Watching this video a year later I thought I was missing out on getting the singles but the prices didn’t really change. Glad Fatal Push is still $10 which is absolutely insane.
The game needs to decide if it's a game first or a collectable first. Secret Lairs and special versions in theory should be able to split the difference. Other games and collectables exist by having fancy super rare versions of common things.
Amazing opening i miss those,i cannot afford them so it is good for me when Rudy open some! Alwais epic speech in the end thanks Rudy that thebreason i'm here everyday,alwais!
What if for $100 ultra premium products and drops WotC were to included them in deck boxes like Satin Towers? or even just the cheap BCW fold-over plastic/velco jobs? Like their wholesale prices would be cheap, their overhead for printing the cards is still the same and the profits on them massive. Take a small hit on the profits to include real value, and increase the public image a little and also incentivize (yeah, its totally a word) customers to buy the gold-plated tacos. of course WotC wouldn't ever do this, they'd rather foil a VIP box that isn't resealable. Who knows though.....Maybe FaB guys will see this and realize the potential ;)
Thank you that needed to be said! I stopped heavily cracking packs 2 yrs ago cause I hated seeing every good modern card I own taking a 50% hit every other yr.
For every post like yours, there are 2x as many posts from players whining that the singles they want are too expensive. Wotc reprints, people complain cards devalue. Singles rise in price, people complain cards prices rising and they want reprints. It’s never ending crying bout card prices.
@@momagic383 Either it is a collectible game or not. And if it is, which it has always been markets this way, reprints have to be done responsibly. What Chris is saying is a classic example of what happens to people when you irresponsibly reprint cards. Why should he open packs? Mo'Magic you are right though. You hear 2x because the loudest crybabies are the ones heard the most. If you cannot afford the singles, just print proxies on photo paper and make them look semi decent. I mean we just want to play the game right?
I sent in my UPC labels and got free packs but it took 4 months. It seems like they may be backed up in the replacement department, I had to send in a zendikar rising expedition for damage but haven't gotten the card back yet. Patience is the key or just forget about it like I did and then one day you'll get mail from WOTC and it will be like Christmas in "insert whatever month you receive your replacements"!
2021 will be the fetch lands in modern horizons 2. I’m sure they’re going to be playing that up massively. May even bump up the price of the set to really piss people off
i mean, the whole point of reprint sets shud be to make things more acessable, yugioh and pokemon do shit way better then magic imo, reprint the hell outta stuff so people can actually play with it and then the collectors items become *versions* of cards, there are plenty of high rarity yugioh cards that hold values in the hundreds especially with konami having lottery cards in the form of starlight rares as of recent that have held onto their value almost completely, yet those cards are still able to be played by ppl, and if not now theyll be reprinted in probably about a year
thanks rudy for the lessons on investment, i traded my chase singles for sealed product and it was a super good investment. slow and steady wins the race.
Oh ye! Only Very important Timmies can be twice as nice. This was most entertaining openings of yesteryear. The next reprint set will double the doubly to become quadruple masters. Once the overlords at wizards release moodern horoozins 2 spoilers all the timmies will be eating up the hype faster than you can say jeweled jayce.
With vip double masters packs at $90 unless you are hitting a fow, or a tron land and one of the better mythics in the same pack, it’s force of will or at best break even or come out maybe $20-$30 ahead. The bad packs seem to be around 50% of that case. That’s a bad bet.
Wizards customers are now just whale investors and active players, collectors have been pushed out completely! Blows my mind the mistakes this company makes. Guess they learned NOTHING from the 90’s sports cards era.
If you get packs that are stuck in the glue like you did the first time opening these then I'd say these were sitting in a warehouse for a long time. The subsequent sets that came out since then didn't have that issue.
I still really don't understand how phasing works. No matter how many times it is explained to me...ummmm ok (slumps away sneakily like Mayor West from Family guy).
idk if people in this market realize. but ive seen stuff like "reserved list is a joke", and it makes sense. now they are highly overpricing and overprinting foils, those will never have a value nearly to old foils. not even in 30 years.
Rudy is right and most people still do not get it: this Policy is destroying the game, since not a single person is going to buy expensive products anymore after a while. And do you think Wizards will then start to produce cheaper?! Never. Everybody will suffer from this Cash Cow attitude - even Secret Lairs, which I do not buy as a matter of principle.
@@seanc9520 I will have to go back and look at my foils. I started collecting during Mirrodin but went back all the way to invasion and opened up a box of each of those sets. So I have pack fresh foils from those sets that have them.
Y'know rudy you're creating a nightmare scenario where wotc listens to you and decides to add the fetchlands/shock-lands to the reserve list starting this year.
@@taylorbates4742 I'm okay if the not-land staples hold value, less ok if the landbase prices me out. Shouldn't have to pay 600$ just to have efficient Mana.
So, have a Bon'AH! I am "dip'n" these Bitches AND I HAVE never DIP'D! LOL! Oh. MY. AMAN RA! DOOD! Snatch factory! I am going to POUND TOWN! Lust'n. Amazing!........"Oh, I believe!" Wizards has to BS all of us! HAS TO! That's how in 10 years these become HOT AF! MY! Man! See........It's time like this. Do, I say I see something or do I shut the front gates and go hide in my liar w/my 'Outliar"? Hmmmmmmmm? Man, I have been awaken!....."Good morning, Sun!"
Next with Hasbro...short supply. Thats what comes next. Then the scalpers drive prices up on regular cards. Just like Topps baseball did this year. Skalpers will go into stores and buy all the product then jack the price up on line. So normal collectors will pay a premium. Its coming. Then quality like what they did with Commander Legends. Poor , thin paper and dull printing. Then the cloudy foils. They cut as many corners in the print process, then limit supply to retailers causing a buy out frenzy. Then , we quit buying them and play our own games with what we have.
This man just opened all of modern tron in full art foil.
I could have sworn the prices for these modern staples used to be much higher. Hopefully, no one went all in on modern staples instead of reserve list...
Cause he's got a massive Rudy. 😶
Rudy: You know what these are?!
Me: No, but what ever they are, they are near mint now 😉
Haha ya from mint to nm
But modern prices are trash anyway
Im glad the modern staples are cheaper. I can finally afford them. They are making the game accessible to everybody.
I have been able to slap a couple of Modern and Legecy decks together because of the singles market. I never would have guessed that cards like Thoughtsieze would be around $10. Some of the older staple cards have been dropping too - if you can afford it, now is a good time to soak up some really solid cards at a great price.
@@Apollo-vh3tb what cards in particular are worth picking up now? Just curious 🙂
@@justinschaumburg2708 That depends on your needs and budget, to be honest. Land is still pretty expensive, but a lot of great Modern staples were reprinted in Double Masters. For example, I snagged a playset of Bitterblossom, Dark Confidant, Thoughtsieze, Goblin Guide, Noble Hierarch, Fatal Push and a ton of singles to upgrade my Commander decks (Avenger of Zendikar, Blood Moon, Mana Reflection, Mana Echoes, Toxic Deluge, ect) - all of those were just a list of targets I that had from Double Masters. Some of the older version dropped in price because of the reprints, so I snagged as many as I could of the cards listed above. I prefer the old MTG art style, so I always compare the reprint price with the older print(s) - if you have patience and some decent timing, you can walk away with great cards and keep money in your pocket. lol.
You have to hunt and keep an eye on cards that you are interested in. I always wanted to build a mono black aggro Legacy deck and was able to with the price drops on Bitterblossom, Thoughsieze and Dark Confidant. Goblin Guide easily improved one of my aggro Modern decks - I couldn't justify the older price tag when I first built the deck....but at $5 and under, it was a no brainer and upped the power level of that deck (along with a couple of other cards).
@@Apollo-vh3tb thanks for the thoroughness of your answer! Yeah all those are great cards. I primarily play EDH so i didn't know those cards were also good in Modern and Legacy.
@@justinschaumburg2708 Honestly in modern, tron is likely a good pick up at the moment as all its core cards are just reprinted.
Rudy: the card quality is off the charts
faded maelstrom nexus: hold my beer
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤙🏼
Ppl : buy 1600$ of vip : get roughtly the exact same value in cards value : "this was an insane case !!!!" Meawhile at wotc : lololololol
Haha. No matter how high Rudy goes, no matter how high Rudy gets on apple cider fungis, he'll never outpace the same box opening conundrum.
"Amazing!"
"What a pull!"
"I haven't seen this in ten boxes!"
Then,
"S/He's maybe made their money back from the opening! Holy crap!"
(S/he hasn't, unless it's Standard foolery)
(Holy crap)
Pretty much no one in these vip videos comes close to breaking even. Unless you only buy one vip pack, and pull a force of will...you lose money lol
Same value would mean breaking even and with these you never do; just a giant hose fest, among curled foils, dingy dark foils, lack of value in high end slots, print lines, and a retail price of “go fuck yourself” per pack. Whoever buys these and collectors boxes are straight timmys or want to spend money so they have a hole in their pockets.
@@returnoftheduelist9790 why tf are there so many doctors playing mtg
Let me lay some facts on you, Mana Crypt is the most expensive card he pulled and sells for roughly $150 in foil showcase. Even if every showcase mythic he pull was a Mana Crypt he would still be out $100. Force is the most expensive at $250 and the others fall off sharply not even hitting $100, so I'd say he probably lost close to $500-$600.
They’ve honestly done a “good” job of getting desirable reprints into these sets. Fatal push was reprinted in mystery boosters and double masters and took the base price to under $1. The highest price cards: FoW, crypt, etc. we’re very well targeted to push them under $100. From the perspective of making modern magic more accessible 2020 has been a great success.
Everything non reserved list will get a reprint or secret lair .
Cards coming out in future sets will be creeping up in power.
Rudy: Sen Triplets gotta be like a $20 card.
Me: Continues to look on TCG
Also Me: Figures out it is $4.50
Lol. Here were I live and In rest of Europe, Sen Tripplets is currently around 2,80€. Aka. half the price cheaper than it used to be.
@@danieliussupienis9703 😂🤦♂️
Mystery Booster. That's what crushed that one. Plus, it's mostly an EDH-card now. Meaning whoever wants one wants only one.
Wait no way. Did triplets really take that big of a hit recently.
I remember they used to be 25-50 all day.
@@djdrack4681It did. It is absurdly crazy 😝
I just foiled out my modern decks for cheap tho.
noice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
2021: " Yes Rudy, Trinisphere is a flipping mythic in double masters."
Man, i miss those VIP videos!!! Beautiful cards, so much fun... Thanks Rudy!
Same here Ricardo !
I agree. Makes many of the other openings a bit boring.
Gorgeous artwork on the pulls today! And we get a bonus Rudy-rant? Awesome!👍
Was a good rant and he is spot on as usual.
Nobody is playing modern because of covid, and because they're 40.
Rudy, I have this debate about reprinting cards all the time with people. For example, people complain so much about fetch lands. And I am wondering just how often do we need to reprint them? There are 5 different printings of these cards to date. I mean do we need to reprint them every year? So we should just have a rotating set of staple cards that are sought after every year? People don't realize that they are standing on the shoulders of people who came before them that made the game a success by both investing/collecting and playing the game. The game would not be where it is today and not be as popular if there was not a chance to pull a chase card and hit a card that could be worth $50 or $100 later down the line. If you keep reprinting cards over and over you lose one part of the game and this causes a cascading effect. Sales go down, R&D suffers, the games suffers further putting downward pressure on the sales and now less people play and now you can get cards for $1 a piece but you have no one to play with.
I couldn't agree with you more. People say well we need staples to play the game at a low price. I say you have all the staples you need to play the game. You have lands and creatures and planeswalkers, instances, artifacts, etc. And you have them all in $3-$4 pack that is currently available and in print.
@@theshadymax2627 Yeah, there's that too. Everyone wants everything for next to nothing driving the value of everything down. Same people want participation trophies that everyone gets the same one of thus making them worthless. Despite what people think, chase cards are good for the game. Reprints are fine if they are done responsibly. You can't reprint fetch lands in an $80 product each year. You either have to space it out or put it in a premium product or premium form that keeps the value high.
I have six cases of this product and I feel like I will be sitting on this for about 10 years. And the reason I do not open any is because I would just keep opening until I get a Full art Foil Force of Will. I think the card is great. So I might as well just buy it on the secondary market and call it a day instead of opening $3000+ worth of product. (edited to add the last part)
Good move I feel like these vip products will phase out and the secondary market will eat up sealed product in about five to ten
Think about how much those exact cards are going to be reprinted in 10 years and with possibly better artwork.
Id get off that ship quick.
@@sam-of6lv Hahaha, true. Yeah, you wins some, you lose some. It was not the best investment and I will have to ride it out. But at the same time I blew it out with Flesh and blood that has more than made up for it by acquiring 12 boxes of the 1st set, 19 of the second set and 12 of the third. I have sold 8 boxes for $14k with a cost basis of $650 or so.
@@brewcrew7550 lovin it 👍good job
@@Short_Stories_Inc Otherwise I would have been in rough shape with the VIP boxes. I really did think these would do well long term and they still might but it is obviously not looking good 6 month in.
I'm hear to watch someone light thier money on fire and laugh. *Gets popcorn*
VIP and Double Masters are my favorite all time!
me too, loved them so much that I got a playset of chinese copies of each foil boxtopper for less than 2$ a card lol
I bought 3 packs at my LGS and pulled 2 foil full art forces and a sword of fire and ice. Im not allowing myself to buy any more because I know I would just be disappointed.
Rudy preaching the truth at the end of the vid. Completely true, WOTC trashing the secondary market
Rudy’s ridiculousness while doing videos deserves some kind of award. So damn entertaining!
He gets a reward.
TH-cam money.
Earned, and paid, and paid again in praise
First Box = BGS 8
“Look at the camera if you’re just listening”
Rudy came in clutch
I can safely say I was eating Carnitas Tacos while watching this
Safely?
@@brodelnaz Not the full MASSIVE boy chalupas?
Yes safely. Those things are DANGEROUSLY good
Now THAT'S a taco. None of that gordita bs
We didn’t ask for your opinion, as we are talking about tacos, not your bull
It really is crazy how severely different the print quality can be from one set to the next
different printers on different locations.. not strange at all. A carlsberg made in denmark doesnt taste the same as one made in US. Different raws, methods and equipments.
You speak the truth. Wizards allowed flesh and blood to take off by screwing up almost every aspect of their own game.
@@zap7759 Though, availability and gameplay is directly affected by this in a positive manner. More players get to purchase stables at a reasonable price and get to construct higher tier decks without having to proxy 20+ cards for a deck. I'm happy about this outcome, especially since I don't see magic as an investment, like you all do, but a hobby. And my hobby is getting treated good lately ;)
@@Flazhness magic isnt as expensive as you people make it out to be, and ill never understand that argument. You can make a tier 1 mono red deck for 60£ lol.
Tier 1 rogues cost around 80-90£
You guys need to go get some actual jobs and calm down.
If you want expensive, go spend 170£ on a pokemon deck that gets rotated out every couple months and countered every week at the next tourney.
@@OrphanCrippler1 your cheap decks are good for a few months at best, imagine playing with the same deck for that long. Go proxy and get better quality cards for 1% of the price and you'll play whatever you want whenever
@@31sebman Mono red has been good throughout magics entire life cycle lmao. Wtf are you talking about? Why would i want to proxy for standard and commander??
You realise entire decks dont cycle out of standard right? Just one set at a time...
@@OrphanCrippler1 why would you proxy for commander?! Gee that's a good question, I wonder if I should have paid a grand each for my 5 cradles instead of 2$...
The last minute was the best part. Too true Rudy, too true.
As a player WoTC lost me in 2020, for 2021 I may just sell what I have and completely abandon MTG.
Just because Wotc is a garbage company doesn’t mean you have to abandon mtg. Heck, I don’t buy boxes and still play modern fnm every Friday I can at my lgs, supporting them buying old singles and sleeves and such.
I'll buy a bunch of your old singles, I'll even offer you Rudy prices
Sell it and buy bitcoin ;D
@@scarmvt I didn't expect them to be THIS trash! They've really shown their colors in 2020 & it'll only get worse in 2021 & beyond. And to think at one point I wanted to work for them.
@@LesGrossman69 thanks for the offer but I'd just go to my local lgs and unload things. I've been a loyal customer to him through 3 or 4 location changes & he's become a dear friend. Far more than just a "store owner".
That Sword of Feast and Famine looks so fancy!!
Ms. Vlogs, nothing is as fancy as you are!! 😉
@@brewcrew7550 well I don’’t know about all that but I do make an effort lol thanks 😊
We played modern at our shop tonight. Still a lot of people. Even though it isn't sanctioned by wotc. We all had masked and there was temperature check. Then still quite a few stayed around and traded.
I missed these, I love watching the VIP Double Masters openings.
Great content.
How u been meatball
"if it is not reserved list, they are coming for it" GOOD. Modern playable cards are affordable and not investiable. GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
modern is as dead as it ever was. Because wotc ruined it. With reprints and no support of the format.
@@Q-Bits8 modern was created because the revised duals were getting up to $100 each and manabases were unaffordable. Now the fetches are up to $100 and instead of reprinting them in a large enough quantity and low priced booster to drive the price down (that was the whole point of modern) they just made Pioneer. Reprints didn't kill, it lack of reprints did.
But my take is they just think the game is so old now the company it's just there's no value in anymore it feels like so they're just trying to bring cooler modern cards to the table for people to buy because like I said in my reply to Rudy the game is just old and there's just too many people out there who have too many good cards that cost a shitload of money and it's just tanking the cards value so the only thing they can do is make badass looking cards to try to bring the value back up but they can't because there's other better card games such as the live game called Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon
@@PlotArmorHero what are you even saying..
@@jovdam you must not fully understand .......I am real adult human I invest in things that's going to improve the human race not on cardboard pieces of paper thank you but don't get me wrong I do love card games it's just I don't invest in pieces of paper I'd rather invest in things than prove human race of course you're going to say they improved the human mind so to each is their own nobody's neither right or wrong anyway that's just how I feel about cards in general soooo have a awesome 2021
I expect there to be more reprinting of the modern staples this year. WoTc logic being, if they can increase the supply of the core modern cards and make them cheaper, they can then get more people to buy into the format. While planning to print modern format warping cards in newer sets, such as Modern Horizon 2, and the newer standard sets. They can then ban the cards from standard, and let them break a pre existing deck or create new decks in modern that will out tier the reprinted modern decks. Driving demand for the newly printed and also other older cards by the people who bought in. Best example of this was Once Upon a Time from Throne, the card broke Amulet Titan. I can only image the sales of Titans, Amulets, and Pact's sky rocketed. While they also cashed in on $20(Cnd) Once Upon a Time's before it got banned, and plummeted in price.
I totally agree with the ramble by the way! It's so scary to get cards not knowing whether or not the price will be chopped in half in the next month cuz over print it again
I enjoyed the insight at the end. I dont know what the community wants! People want value/expected value but then want the game to be accessible. Rudy is right. WOTC needs to decide if Magic is going to be a brand or game. I thought for sure Magic Arena was going to solve the problem. It's not doing a great job of accessibility.
Rudy that crop rotation and Council's judgement happened twice both in the foil full art slot. Kinda wierd.
so did the fatal push-karn pull if i'm not mistaken
@@aaronvincent816 I noticed that, too. I wonder if there may be some shady manipulation of the “randomness” of packs. Because 4 of 16 packs had the same combination of rares. Small sample size, sure, but something’s up
Rudy in video: REPRINTS ARE KILLING VALUE.
*Proceeds to show every card that has been holding or gaining value*
I still can't get over how amazing that Sword of Feast and Famine art is.
The return to the return to VIP.
Watching this video a year later I thought I was missing out on getting the singles but the prices didn’t really change. Glad Fatal Push is still $10 which is absolutely insane.
The game needs to decide if it's a game first or a collectable first. Secret Lairs and special versions in theory should be able to split the difference. Other games and collectables exist by having fancy super rare versions of common things.
Thanks for these videos! There very entertaining and I can’t afford to buy these on my own so thank so very much!
NICE
BEAUTIFUL DOUBLE MASTER💯💯💯💯
I think this set summs up Wizards in 2020 quite well - low quality, high variance, insanely priced products designed to funnel our money.
Amazing opening i miss those,i cannot afford them so it is good for me when Rudy open some!
Alwais epic speech in the end thanks Rudy that thebreason i'm here everyday,alwais!
So Rudy how do you really feel about how bearish the market is on modern cards? 😃
Buy low sell high baby been rolling around my lgses picking up board less fatal pushes for 4s and 3s 😎 bear markets gotta end at some point
7 months later, modern is back and sheeeeeeesh
Explosives, baubles.
Not to mention the rares.
Double masters now a flipping homerun
I thought this was old for a sec so I skipped it then my alert finally popped up, and it was at that I knew Shit... Was... About... To... Go... Down
I emailed them to chase up to get the standard double master packs. I got an email back from wizards, saying they won’t send me out the packs.
does anyone remember when rudy said he wasnt going to be pack opening channel but it turned out to be the most entertaining mtg opener
10:04
Rudy: It's not a bad product - only priced bad
Me: *Looking at scratch across Trinisphere* 🤔🤔🤔
What if for $100 ultra premium products and drops WotC were to included them in deck boxes like Satin Towers? or even just the cheap BCW fold-over plastic/velco jobs?
Like their wholesale prices would be cheap, their overhead for printing the cards is still the same and the profits on them massive. Take a small hit on the profits to include real value, and increase the public image a little and also incentivize (yeah, its totally a word) customers to buy the gold-plated tacos.
of course WotC wouldn't ever do this, they'd rather foil a VIP box that isn't resealable. Who knows though.....Maybe FaB guys will see this and realize the potential ;)
A lot of these cards are great in commander as well and they are so beautiful
Thank you that needed to be said! I stopped heavily cracking packs 2 yrs ago cause I hated seeing every good modern card I own taking a 50% hit every other yr.
For every post like yours, there are 2x as many posts from players whining that the singles they want are too expensive.
Wotc reprints, people complain cards devalue. Singles rise in price, people complain cards prices rising and they want reprints. It’s never ending crying bout card prices.
@@momagic383 Either it is a collectible game or not. And if it is, which it has always been markets this way, reprints have to be done responsibly. What Chris is saying is a classic example of what happens to people when you irresponsibly reprint cards. Why should he open packs?
Mo'Magic you are right though. You hear 2x because the loudest crybabies are the ones heard the most. If you cannot afford the singles, just print proxies on photo paper and make them look semi decent. I mean we just want to play the game right?
I sent in my UPC labels and got free packs but it took 4 months. It seems like they may be backed up in the replacement department, I had to send in a zendikar rising expedition for damage but haven't gotten the card back yet. Patience is the key or just forget about it like I did and then one day you'll get mail from WOTC and it will be like Christmas in "insert whatever month you receive your replacements"!
I always watch till the end rudy your my guy
17:18 I was dead ass on my phone listening after watching the whole thing, what a coincidence.
2021 will be the fetch lands in modern horizons 2. I’m sure they’re going to be playing that up massively. May even bump up the price of the set to really piss people off
The fact that the playmat is Recurring Nightmare makes this so much funnier to watch
i mean, the whole point of reprint sets shud be to make things more acessable, yugioh and pokemon do shit way better then magic imo, reprint the hell outta stuff so people can actually play with it and then the collectors items become *versions* of cards, there are plenty of high rarity yugioh cards that hold values in the hundreds especially with konami having lottery cards in the form of starlight rares as of recent that have held onto their value almost completely, yet those cards are still able to be played by ppl, and if not now theyll be reprinted in probably about a year
What?
"She's working her way down".
Giggity?
thanks rudy for the lessons on investment, i traded my chase singles for sealed product and it was a super good investment. slow and steady wins the race.
Oh ye! Only Very important Timmies can be twice as nice. This was most entertaining openings of yesteryear. The next reprint set will double the doubly to become quadruple masters. Once the overlords at wizards release moodern horoozins 2 spoilers all the timmies will be eating up the hype faster than you can say jeweled jayce.
With vip double masters packs at $90 unless you are hitting a fow, or a tron land and one of the better mythics in the same pack, it’s force of will or at best break even or come out maybe $20-$30 ahead. The bad packs seem to be around 50% of that case. That’s a bad bet.
I had four copies of smothering tithe, listed for $50 a piece. Thought about selling but decided to hold back. Double Masters 2022 came out.. $25
These are really fun to watch for the sole reason that I could never afford this
Nice pulls, I'll never ever buy a "VIP" product again after getting hosed though
Awesome pulls...but even more awesome rant at the end.
Wizards customers are now just whale investors and active players, collectors have been pushed out completely! Blows my mind the mistakes this company makes. Guess they learned NOTHING from the 90’s sports cards era.
Chris, why do you say collectors have been pushed out?
Honestly, not enough rambling towards the end. Rudy speaks the truth.
I’ll never get tired of his shit
If you get packs that are stuck in the glue like you did the first time opening these then I'd say these were sitting in a warehouse for a long time. The subsequent sets that came out since then didn't have that issue.
I feel out of 5 boxes my first two were pretty good. Had a Mox Opal. Now there are 3 sealed, and trying to keep them sealed for a few years.
Most expensive can of pringles ever
VIP doesn't pringle unless you dont know how to take care of them. This isn't cmd legend print quality.
@@jayceh J V is a Timmy
It will be a fun day when Rudy buys Magic from Hasbro in 2041.
The crazy reprint set is time spiral remastered I wouldn't be surprised to see time shifted fetches
i can feel you phasing back & forth
I still really don't understand how phasing works. No matter how many times it is explained to me...ummmm ok (slumps away sneakily like Mayor West from Family guy).
idk if people in this market realize. but ive seen stuff like "reserved list is a joke", and it makes sense. now they are highly overpricing and overprinting foils, those will never have a value nearly to old foils. not even in 30 years.
Nope, this is not my kind of set!
Real video starts at 15:26
God!!!! I agree with you
I need that Imperial Recruiter
I did get mine about 2 days ago for the redemption, they take about 3 to 6 weeks from the time they get it to shipping.
in Norway, one pack of VIP cost 220,15$ So..yes! No!
I can’t believe only one damaged card in Trinisphere. Usually there is a line going down at least one card in every two packs or so.
these pulls are insane. I've opened 5 of these and haven't gotten anywhere near that value.
Lot of negativity in comments so I'ma just say the Commander Legends set is AWESOME and Apex Devastator is my new favorite card :p
Slap!
They could top Double Masters by releasing a specialty product where the gimmick is card stock and foil quality that isn’t total ass
10$ for a piece of cardboard? That's flipping insane!!!...unless...
... I didn’t have any issues, I purchased 11 VIP total and received 7 packs in the mail approx 6 weeks later
now is the time to buy the cards.... when modern is back on schedule for tournament play, the prices will rise like a rocket
Rudy is right and most people still do not get it: this Policy is destroying the game, since not a single person is going to buy expensive products anymore after a while. And do you think Wizards will then start to produce cheaper?! Never. Everybody will suffer from this Cash Cow attitude - even Secret Lairs, which I do not buy as a matter of principle.
He makes me so nervous whipping that razor knife around, gets my anxiety pumping.
Just curious, do foil cards nowadays warp like my time do? ( Invasion era )
Could never play them like regular cards
Like pringles. Except now you get a bonus machine scratch or se of roller marks to go with the curl.
Oh, foils in my time had print lines too. Just goes from left to right and not the top to bottom like in the videos.
Never knew why
@@seanc9520 I will have to go back and look at my foils. I started collecting during Mirrodin but went back all the way to invasion and opened up a box of each of those sets. So I have pack fresh foils from those sets that have them.
Y'know rudy you're creating a nightmare scenario where wotc listens to you and decides to add the fetchlands/shock-lands to the reserve list starting this year.
I fucking wish lol
Player : fetch are too expensive
You : lets make them more expensive it will save modern and legacy
@@gabrielharvey956 I just prefer my cards retain, or even gain value rather than lose 50% of their value after a single reprint.
@@taylorbates4742 I'm okay if the not-land staples hold value, less ok if the landbase prices me out. Shouldn't have to pay 600$ just to have efficient Mana.
So, have a Bon'AH! I am "dip'n" these Bitches AND I HAVE never DIP'D! LOL! Oh. MY. AMAN RA! DOOD! Snatch factory! I am going to POUND TOWN! Lust'n. Amazing!........"Oh, I believe!" Wizards has to BS all of us! HAS TO! That's how in 10 years these become HOT AF! MY! Man! See........It's time like this. Do, I say I see something or do I shut the front gates and go hide in my liar w/my 'Outliar"? Hmmmmmmmm? Man, I have been awaken!....."Good morning, Sun!"
I really wish Rudy would make a bingo board for another series. Maybe modern horizons 2
Next with Hasbro...short supply. Thats what comes next. Then the scalpers drive prices up on regular cards. Just like Topps baseball did this year. Skalpers will go into stores and buy all the product then jack the price up on line. So normal collectors will pay a premium. Its coming. Then quality like what they did with Commander Legends. Poor , thin paper and dull printing. Then the cloudy foils. They cut as many corners in the print process, then limit supply to retailers causing a buy out frenzy. Then , we quit buying them and play our own games with what we have.
''Check the price of this now (Cyclonic Rift) it's like ten bucks.''... Nah it's 50$. Because it's Rift.
Ya I was gonna say base prints are 20
take a shot every time Rudy says "and of course"
He sounds like Chyk Uger from the Young Turks!!