Considering the equipment that was used at that time, vellum heads, wooden hoops, no hi-hats, wood blocks, skulls and other traps devices and fairly ordinary cymbals, I have nothing but respect for Baby Dodds playing.
Holy crap. I was watching the Ginger Baker Throwback Thursday thing from the Musicians Institute just now, and he mentioned this guy as his number-one influence, even more than Phil Seamen.
For those interested in finding out more about this incredible musician, I recommend obtaining a copy of a book my father co-authored with Baby Dodds, called "The Baby Dodds Story." It is still in print and available from Amazon.com, among other places.
The Blackwell reference is right on the money!! The spirit of New Orleans on the drums is one continuous heartbeat that has gone on for hundreds of years. Baby was also a big influence on Art Blakey(As were Chick Webb and Big Sid Catlett)
Drummer Buddy Rich cited Webb's powerful technique and virtuoso performances as heavily influential on his own drumming, and even referred to Webb as "the daddy of them all"
Baby Dodds is the father of modern popular drumming. He's the Louis Armstrong of drums. It's no wonder that guys like Ginger Baker loved his playing so much.
Am not a Drummer . Just an amateur Guitarist / RocknRoll fan forever but a virtuoso Drummer told me about Baby so now in my Senior Citizen years I got to hear him. What he is is a genius with a breakthrough style that would have stopped in you in your tracks when it first came out . This exists in all the Arts . Literature , Painting etc . Sometimes it is immediately accepted and becomes a standard Sometimes it takes time because as the cliche goes , it is ahead of its time . I wouldn’t know here because I am not well versed in the era and Drumming for that matter .
Jan, all good. I have read the history of the convoluted and very complex Zildjian brand. During the 1930s there was a huge diversity in their manufacture including obscure budget brands. Quality was very hit and miss in those days because each cymbal was made by hand. Parts of the family branched off into other countries and then reformed later on. Amazing history. Thanks for you input.
I couldn't have said this better. They had the rhythm in their hearts, the tempo in their cerebella, and were able to keep it simple but almost unimitable at the same time.
@@elliotravencroft285 well, metal drummers do indeed have great technique and precision. But, what I believe prohibits their entry into the realm of true greatness is their use of dynamics which is simply non-existant in metal. There is no soul in it (I like to see the drums as the first instrument of human race and thus as the most spiritual one). Especially Baby, Zutty, Cié, Paul Barbarin to name a few were so vivid and enjoyable.
Without this guy there would be no Max, Roy, Tony, Buddy, Gene, Ray Bauduc, Papa Jo, Philly Joe, Elvin, Gadd, Dave Weckl, Vinny Colaiuta, Joe Morello, Brian Blade, etc etc etc - Baby Dodds was the true Mac Daddy - the Grandfather of jazz drums old and new.
Those who complain about excessive use of cymbals below : Do understand that early recording, acoustic process especially, did not capture drums. To be heard at all, drummers had to use cymbals. One may suspect that band leaders permitted extra cymbal notes to keep drummers from walking out of recording sessions.
Yes, one and the same. I'm sure it was a dream come true for him, as he had been a jazz fan since early childhood in the 1930's. If you would like, feel free to ask him yourself (lgara1@cinci.rr.com). Thanks!
@funkytomtom Maybe, but they are in the background.....im just provoking drummers because i personally think that cymbals are highly over-used..... please give me a definition of a troll as u use it! And evry influential drummer has lead to the over-use of the drum kit in modern music, wheres the nice drums, sogo, cuica, dumbek etc....
those are 2 totally different time periods haha and two totally different types of music. decides, travis isn't untalented, overrated maybe lol i think dodds would be amazed by travis
'If it weren't for Baby Dodds, you would never have heard of Gene Krupa. Baby Dodds taught Gene Krupa, which was why I was so pissed when I went to see the movie The Gene Krupa Story because Baby Dodds was not even mentioned. It was the worst movie ever made.' Ginger Baker.
I was a kid when I saw 'The Gene Krupa Story' with Sal Mineo with Gene Krupa doing the movie soundtrack, that Gene's TomTom drum playing brought me outta my chair and still does today. Gene learned that from Baby Dodds and it's deep man, real deep!!
he's really singing us a song and tellin' a story a the same time...u can hear all the different characters intreracting.
thanks for uploading this!
EVERY drummer should listen to this and other Baby Dodds solo recordings.
Considering the equipment that was used at that time, vellum heads, wooden hoops, no hi-hats, wood blocks, skulls and other traps devices and fairly ordinary cymbals, I have nothing but respect for Baby Dodds playing.
When I heard this I immediately "got it" about tap dancers influancing jazz drummers...
Holy crap. I was watching the Ginger Baker Throwback Thursday thing from the Musicians Institute just now, and he mentioned this guy as his number-one influence, even more than Phil Seamen.
Doug Tarnopol I hear a LOT of Dodds in Ginger. Hope they are doing some wicked drum duos up there.
Stellar rhythmic invention! We are so lucky to be able to hear this musical gem. Rock on Baby Dodds!
WOW! the man could put it together so rhythmic, can you imagine those days... more music no noise.
For those interested in finding out more about this incredible musician, I recommend obtaining a copy of a book my father co-authored with Baby Dodds, called "The Baby Dodds Story." It is still in print and available from Amazon.com, among other places.
Outstanding! The way a drum solo should sound.
Notice the melody he's playing... Fantastic!
The Blackwell reference is right on the money!! The spirit of New Orleans on the drums is one continuous heartbeat that has gone on for hundreds of years.
Baby was also a big influence on Art Blakey(As were Chick Webb and Big Sid Catlett)
Quelle pièce de collection unique ! Babby Dodds joue comme un dieu et l'enregistrement est de grande qualité. Merci MoleDFigg !
A real treat thanks. To bad they did'nt record drums back when he was with Joe Oliver
still love his work!!
Drummer Buddy Rich cited Webb's powerful technique and virtuoso performances as heavily influential on his own drumming, and even referred to Webb as "the daddy of them all"
Great stuff..my personnal favorite in that Maryland drum solo he did...awesome....
Thank you so much for sharing...!!
this is wonderful. thanks
"....Well you get in that kitchen make some noise with those pots and pans..." Big Joe Turner,Shake Rattle and Roll
Baby Dodds is the father of modern popular drumming. He's the Louis Armstrong of drums. It's no wonder that guys like Ginger Baker loved his playing so much.
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice
Wow! He really is great.
Am not a Drummer . Just an amateur Guitarist / RocknRoll fan forever but a virtuoso Drummer told me about Baby so now in my Senior Citizen years I got to hear him. What he is is a genius with a breakthrough style that would have stopped in you in your tracks when it first came out . This exists in all the Arts . Literature , Painting etc . Sometimes it is immediately accepted and becomes a standard Sometimes it takes time because as the cliche goes , it is ahead of its time . I wouldn’t know here because I am not well versed in the era and Drumming for that matter .
i listened and i would still like to spend the evening with krupa thnx all the same
Jan, all good. I have read the history of the convoluted and very complex Zildjian brand. During the 1930s there was a huge diversity in their manufacture including obscure budget brands. Quality was very hit and miss in those days because each cymbal was made by hand. Parts of the family branched off into other countries and then reformed later on. Amazing history. Thanks for you input.
Also the recording equipment wasnt really able to handle big drum beats, thats why its rare to hear drums on vinyls from the 30's
To sum it up in one word, "genius".
1000 X more creative than actuels "drummers" !!! Baby Dodds, Jo Jones, Chick Webb, Zutty, Cosy Cole, Big Sid Catlett....please come back among us !!!
I couldn't have said this better. They had the rhythm in their hearts, the tempo in their cerebella, and were able to keep it simple but almost unimitable at the same time.
You should add Davey Tough to that list, but on the whole, you're right. And thanks!
@@elliotravencroft285 well, metal drummers do indeed have great technique and precision. But, what I believe prohibits their entry into the realm of true greatness is their use of dynamics which is simply non-existant in metal. There is no soul in it (I like to see the drums as the first instrument of human race and thus as the most spiritual one). Especially Baby, Zutty, Cié, Paul Barbarin to name a few were so vivid and enjoyable.
Incredible.
This amazing piece sounds like it's done entirely on wood block and cowbell.
...learning from the pioneers ;)
Poetry in SOUND :)........
lovely..thanks
Without this guy there would be no Max, Roy, Tony, Buddy, Gene, Ray Bauduc, Papa Jo, Philly Joe, Elvin, Gadd, Dave Weckl, Vinny Colaiuta, Joe Morello, Brian Blade, etc etc etc - Baby Dodds was the true Mac Daddy - the Grandfather of jazz drums old and new.
it's from FAST BLUES (1946)-with Cunningham :)
OG
Asch Records (later named 'Folkways') had a drum method by Dodds with accompanying 78 records. I'm pretty sure this is part of that collection.
Own a little disc by this man that I got from my farher. It`s all beaten up and scratchy by now. But: It`s hard to beat this drumming.
The innovator..............
I am trying to play Dan Gottlieb's transcription of this...It's a lot harder than it sounds, man.
You could make a video! Would help a lot. Even just a little part.. I have the transcription too, but shame on me, I never tried.
Those who complain about excessive use of cymbals below : Do understand that early recording, acoustic process especially, did not capture drums. To be heard at all, drummers had to use cymbals. One may suspect that band leaders permitted extra cymbal notes to keep drummers from walking out of recording sessions.
Fuck me, this rocks something silly!
Played with no Hi hat, I believe.
Super dope
Ginger Bakers favourite ✊
Please i dont wanna read travis barker in any other drummer video unless it has travis in it PLEASE
Yes, one and the same. I'm sure it was a dream come true for him, as he had been a jazz fan since early childhood in the 1930's. If you would like, feel free to ask him yourself (lgara1@cinci.rr.com). Thanks!
You're right, but I wouldn't call old K Zildjians "fairly ordinary." Then of course, not everybody had those.
bonjour
Ok, seriously, even HERE we get travis barker talk?
Barker is a great drummer in rock/punk whatever. Dodds is a jazz drummer. Big difference.
your dad is Larry Gara? No way, thats awesome!! What was it like for him to work with THE Baby Dodds? (I'm actually writing a paper on him)
Someone disliked this. WTF?
Jan can you confirm that he had K Zildjians in 1946?
Jan, can you confirm that he was using K Zildjians in 1946?
He's all over Ginger Baker.
Well, of course I can't. Sorry, I was just nitpicking.
@funkytomtom Maybe, but they are in the background.....im just provoking drummers because i personally think that cymbals are highly over-used..... please give me a definition of a troll as u use it! And evry influential drummer has lead to the over-use of the drum kit in modern music, wheres the nice drums, sogo, cuica, dumbek etc....
hahahahaha
those are 2 totally different time periods haha and two totally different types of music. decides, travis isn't untalented, overrated maybe lol i think dodds would be amazed by travis
'If it weren't for Baby Dodds, you would never have heard of Gene Krupa. Baby Dodds taught Gene Krupa, which was why I was so pissed when I went to see the movie The Gene Krupa Story because Baby Dodds was not even mentioned. It was the worst movie ever made.'
Ginger Baker.
No disrespect to Gene, but Ginger was right.
I was a kid when I saw 'The Gene Krupa Story' with Sal Mineo with Gene Krupa doing the movie soundtrack, that Gene's TomTom drum playing brought me outta my chair and still does today. Gene learned that from Baby Dodds and it's deep man, real deep!!