Bravo,that's ENOUGH NOW WITH THIS STORYLINE. EVERY single one of these adults ,had done cheating sleeping with each other. Where was Brock when she was pregnant and struggling financially?
This show needs to be canceled after this season. Between the fake friendships, no true storylines and lack of maturity amongst the cast, this show is past its prime. They are all too old to be acting the way they do.
Tom didn't say he's not friends with Sheana at the reunion! He actually said the opposite. From the beginning Tom has been a very giving friend, always ready to help any of them....just bc 1 season he kinda went off the deepend doesn't mean he's a narcissist. Their relationship has been over for awhile, he knew he couldn't stay in it any longer....not healthy for either of them
This adds context to why Scheana feels torn…there’s always more to the story. Sandoval did something horrible but that doesn’t mean everything he ever has done or ever will do it terrible. Everyone can be on their own timeline with forgiveness, but Scheana has the right to move on if she wants to.
You have to watch someones pattern of behavior especially if it's horrible behavior. Tom was a SERIAL cheater when he dated Kristin. He was able to manipulator the cast AND Viewers to narcissist blame shift all the relationship problems on to Kristin. Tom was a SERIAL cheater with Ariana. He confessed to Shenna that he cheated with Rachel, "miami girl" AND "another woman that was not a stranger". He is now manipulating Lisa VP and the cast to just move on. This is what narcissist like Tom do. They leave a trail of broken hearts and do not care they just move on to a new target victim. They are masterful manipulator to get everyone to feel sorry for them to get back into the group. This manipulation is called "narcissist pity me manipulation". This is what Tom is doing. He started with first manipulating Lisa VP. it worked now he is trying to crack the rest of the cast AND Viewers. Dont get suckered by Tom he is a masterful con artist narcissist always conning everyone.
Just because someone forgives him doesn’t mean they are sucked in and manipulated by him. Forgiveness is a personal choice. It’s less about the person who did the crime and more about the person who wants to forgive.
You’re such thing though his actions, and also his words and everything else that he’s done since his actions or what drew this line in the sand. The split is because he decided to spend the majority of the year cheating on his girlfriend with their mutual friend in their house in her bed while she was at her grandmothers funeral like just really ridiculous stupid shit that you can’t really excuse you can’t say it’s a mistake or an accident that’s who he is as a person. Yes he also gave her money which, by the way would also tend to be partially Ariana giving her money because their finances are really tied at that point. People are not just good or bad. Everybody does good and bad things you need to decide where your lines are and when one of your friends draws a line like this, you need to decide if that’s a friend you wanna have or not because you will be judged by what you allow your friends to do as well.
NEVER be friends with con artist like Tom sandervol and his side kick Tom. They are very manipulative, cunning and patholgical liars. These are the people you get out of your life if you want a peaceful life.
Tom is conning all the cast and especially Lisa VP to get back into the group. He has ZERO remorse for what he did. He is only sorry for getting caught having an affair with a "Friend". He does not care that he broke Ariana's heart. He was a serial cheater with Kristin and Ariana. Beware of these con artist types like Tom.
@@jansmith3158he didn’t break her heart. She hasn’t loved him for a long time. She stayed because it kept her on the show, Toms businesses were bringing in $$$. Ariana loved the lifestyle more than she loved Tom. Tom, Ariana and the whole cast are con artists. Two faced. Especially lala.
I totally agree. Ariana broke up with Tom, why should everyone else be dragged into it and made to pick Ariana's side or risk her cutting them out of her life. She is dead wrong placing her friends in that situation. It is entitled, selfish and disrespectful behavior to think she has a right to try and control others.
You need to seek some therapy. To be this hateful about a woman who you only know one thing about - that she was cheated on - is INSANE. You really made all of that up in your head and now you believe it? You actually believe you know all of that about their relationship? Please... find a therapist. You're one hallucination away from brain damage. @@itelluwut4535
@@natashab3412I mean she’s been boring for a majority of her time on the show. Her most interesting storyline besides Scandoval was Miami girl, and she lied about it.
What Tom scan did was wrong horrible, but it doesn’t discount every aspect of him as a human being. News reports are she stopped help paying mortgage and house bills since Scandoval. That’s not right. She is living her best life , opportunities that most likely would never have been presented to her had the scandal not occurred . Something to be said for finding out your person isn’t your person, you have more because of it, and are able to move on with opportunities in place. You don’t have to like them, but have some reflection , forgive and move on…in peace.
When Tom Schwartz cheated on Katie Tom Sandoval stood by him - he wasn't wrong in his assertion that Katie and he weren't right for each other as evidenced by the divorce. He should have given himself the same advice and handled it better. People cheat and people break up, they came after him like he'd assaulted someone. 😮
I understand Ariana’s point of view because she made it clear she doesn’t want to be friends with people who are his friends and if you chose that then there will be no friendship and you should just accept it. Scheana is entitled to feel the way she feels but if you miss sandavol and want your friendship back just be prepared to lose your friendship with Ariana because she set a boundary for her mental health. It’s for her whether others believe it to be childish or not
@@mewho8714 Sandervol, Rachel and Schwartz all lied, manipulated, & were pure evil to Ariana for 7 months while hidding the affair. Why the heck would she even want to be "friends' with these evil doers after being backstabbed daily by them. Ariana is smart to follow the no contact rule with ALL Tom, Tom and Rachel.
If she doesn’t want to be friends with people who are around someone who hurt her then she has a right just as they have a right to feel it’s unfair to lose her as a friend if it they patch things up with sandavol
Arianas boundary is childish and infantile. Why isn't she not friends with Lala, Shaena, and James since they are all on vacation with her enemies? Why doesn't she remove herself from the TV show period. Why is she still friends with Lisa Vanderpump? It's stupid
Scheana needs to be team Scheana … Because that husband of hers is seriously frustrated with her! with all her issues they are going to be the next couple to go through a breakup 🧐. She’s a train wreck
I agree..I think her mother is only adding to the stress..Scheana needs to create firm boundaries with her mother otherwise she will cause a wedge between Brock and herself, then the only loser will be poor Summer..
Brock is being extremely critical and insensitive to what it is she’s going through. He isn’t listening to what she’s telling him at all. Yes, she needs to stop relying on her mother being the nanny full time but I also see where she is coming from as well because you can’t trust anyone these days with your kids so not wanting her to stay with a nanny while they’re gone for the weekend is fully understandable. She is working on it but he isn’t giving her any grace at all. From what I’ve heard from her on the podcast and other interviews she’s done they’re doing a lot better and they do now have a nanny that isn’t her mom. Summers almost at the age she can start school now as well and that will help.
The thing is, is that Scheana shouldn’t have to decide between two different people that she is friends with. It has nothing to do with her. Of course, people make bad decisions and poor choices. But she was not in the relationship with him or her. When a person says it’s either me or them, are they really even your friend? You choose who you want in your life not by someone else’s choice .
Sorry no. I wouldn't be ok with it either. Same as Ariana Scheana is / was Arianas best friend. This is about jealously. Katie jealousy. Fr Schena and bitter feelings fr Lala
i agree with that now...a year ago was a different story but now the dust has settled and i think scheana needs to stop with the people pleasing already...
@@natashab3412 Sheana was Sandoval's friend before Arianna. She has been a really good one too. Arianna is turning into something else. Jay-Z cheated on Beyonce/ Clinton did on Hilary. It's not the end of the world and it's not like both Ariana and Tom aren't familiar with cheating. That's how their relationship started. Enough already,! 😅
I totally agree. Ariana is being manipulative and entitled issuing ultimatums. Why should everyone else have to end their friendships with Sandoval just because she is hurt and bitter? A real friend would never issue such a ultimatum.
They shouldn’t have got rid of Stassi, Kristen and Jax. They were all apart of the core friend group. Now the supporting cast members, like Lala, James, Ariana are main characters, and they just don’t have what it takes to carry the show. It’s sad to watch this show get progressively worse every season. Scandoval was the most entertaining things to happen in 2 seasons.
Yes and Stassi is real friends with Katie, Kristen and lala behind the scenes. Not to mention Stassi had drama with Brittany and Jax behind the scenes also. I miss the authentic stuff lol
Well, Stassi and Kristen were being Karens...They had to let them go. I'm not really sure why Jax left but Stassi and Kristen were mean for what they did to the other girl.
That’s unfair. He told her they were broken up and she kissed him. She told Kristen this on camera! Tom and Kristen were the liars back then, not Ariana. But she did know about Miami girl and covered for him, which made Kristen and Miami girl seem crazy. That was wrong. That’s it.
Tom’s pattern of targeting women when they’re low, Ariana grieving her Dad, Rachel ending her engagement, is a classic tactic for making people dependent on you.
I'm sorry but no one gives you thousands of dollars when you're struggling just to give you thousands of dollars…. If someone did that for me, that is something I would NEVER forget! That's genuinely a good person! Tom just did a bad thing! But I do believe he is deep down a good person!
Thank youuu for saying this👏🏾 People are just fixated on that stupid thing he did now they want to crucify him for anything. He is damned either way and there’s no winning with this group.
@@chelseababe people are acting so crazy to the point where I'm starting to believe if he actually committed suicide they wouldn't care… that's terrifying! Its not like he killed someone, harmed an animal or a child! Then I would say “yeah… go to hell. I don't care what happens to you!” But HE CHEATED PEOPLE. THEY ALL HAVE. GET A GRIP.
@@lifestyle7936 exactly!!! They’re all sheep just going along with the herd and it’s crazy. Ariana isn’t the first woman to have a man cheat on her with a so called friend and she won’t be the last. She’s just milking the situation for as long as she can but we are over it. It’s kinda sad because that was my girl and i really liked her. Let’s not forget that she too got involved with Tom while he was with Kristen, she was working at Villa Blanca all along but when then show came on she aligned herself with Tom and started working at SUR just to be on camera. I mean we all know she’s always wanted to be an actress. And she’s definitely giving a performance of a lifetime this season🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 trying to make everyone to stay on the hate Tom train as if she’s the Queen of the group like Schwartz said LOL! Heck, even Andy is over this storyline🙄
@@chelseababe the whole Kristen thing too! Everyone keeps saying it happened so long ago and I'm like and? SHE STILL DID IT. It's not narcissistic behavior to bring it back up! I'm so tired of everyone using the “narcissist” card whenever we point out the hypocritical actions of what was also once done to us! It's so easy to call someone a narcissist these days because it makes everyone feel bigger of a person when they use that word on someone else when it's all bullshit! Like no… it's not narcissistic behavior to bring up Kristen, it's LOGICAL point-making! ARIANA. DID. IT. TOO. Just because it happened 9 years ago doesn't mean it doesn't matter anymore! Not yelling at you btw. I just hope others see this comment too. 😅
@@lifestyle7936 haha🤣😂 I know you aren’t but I do the same too when I’m trying to get my point across because some of these fandoms just don’t get it!!! It’s really mob mentality with some of these fans and it’s nuts. Yep, exactly what u said about how people want to just forget that others cheated too but when it’s Tom they will ride it til the end. What puzzles me the most is that worm WITHOUT a mustache, James Kennedy. When he first came on NO ONE and I mean no one in the group liked him nor wanted to be his friend. Even Schwartz wanted nothing to do with him. But who was there for him and thee only one who gave him a chance….Tom Sandoval!! Yes Tom got with Rachel and I do get James’s anger but they had broken up and it’s no reason to vilify him. But nevertheless it seems like in real time the tides have turned on Ariana as her so called friends Lala and Scheana are not as close with her but we shall see. Ariana isn’t innocent and she’s the real narcissist here!!
Ariana is petty to expect her friends to cut off Sandoval. Is this middle school? Yes, what he did was horrible. But everybody fucks up. Lets not forget how Ariana and Tom started. She was the other woman too.
That ISN"T her expectation that seems to be YOUR understanding. Ariana, just will NOT be friends with people who are friends with Tom. It's a boundary for her, play the tapes and see what she's actually said. She might be the most mature and emotionally aware one out of the bunch right now. She's gone as far as to say she knows she's being annoying but that's how she feels. I'd be petty too 4 months if my life partner was banging someone in my house and lying about it for 7+ months. Ariana has every right to be petty considering there was an affair. Schena, here is doing what she does best playing the victim, and how it affects her the most because naturally, Sandoval is one of her "best" friends. When all Schena needed to say to Ariana was, 'I want Sandoval in my life and I want you and I'll do my best to keep you two separate in my life. If that means I lose you, that's unfortunate because I love you, friend." Schena is trying to avoid hate from fans right now, as you can see being friends with Ariana gets more brand deals than Sandoval. She's got no backbone. I do agree how you get them is how you'll lose them.
@@precillagowrie3143 what does « I won’t have mutual friends with him » mean? It means « your either my friend or his » it means « chose me or him ». It’s what I hear my adolescent cousin and her girlfriends talk about.
She’s still hurting but she shouldn’t be telling the others who to be friends with. I’m glad LVP had words with Lala and Scheana cos it’s gone way to far.
@@WlknHope2024oh shut it!!! Why is it so hard to believe that there are actual people in this world that are generous enough to offer help. Believe it or not Tom actually has a big heart, he just made a dumb decision. He should not be crucified for what he did.
Ariana used to be one of my favourites on the show … Not anymore tho as far as I see it she sold her soul to become a professional victim for the industry and ole Tom is being ritually used in the humiliation ritual that their all playing a part in to collect the cash that they earn for virtually doing nothing for it except playing their parts to suit the narrative they’ve created, one guy goes down so the rest of them gain monetarily its just part of Hollywood dirty as always. Don’t Kidd yourselves this shit actually goes down whether you believe it or not it’s how that club plays. Oh not to mention ole Tom S was a pretty good friend of poor ole Issac Kappy too go figure huh!!!?
@@chloegrant8123 That would have been known by now and since it hasn't, she is being great full to the one who literally pulled her out that predicament. That's Sandoval!
Sheena and her husband are spending to much money. They have no emergency fund. Schaena said that she helped Rachel (prior to the affair) with a agent go get more money from the show. She said that Rachel was able to get a pay raise with this agent to over $350,000 for the whole season. So Sheena must be making that kind of money or more too. Yet she had no money to pay bills and had to borrow money from Tom.
I’m so over Ariana at this point. I was totally on her side in the beginning when it all came out to still be cashing in on something that she found out about A YEAR AGO tomorrow and is seeing someone new it’s time to move on with your life. You decided to stay on the cast beside him on a show he was already on before you because of the benefits your getting from it all. Life goes on. You don’t have to like him but stop playing chess with your friends
If they stop talking about what T.S. did and their feelings about that (cause they already have a great deal), what will they talk about ? Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
The funny thing is Ariana did NOT want to be on the show in the beginning because she was so uncomfortable in front of the camera. Look at her now. 😂😂😂😂😂
She go keep this “I got cheated on thing” for every season and honestly it’s sad it happened but she still in the same house as him so what’s the point exactly and telling his friends who knew him before her that they can’t be friends with both is odd, and childish. I understand it but still girl please grow tf up and move on.
@@quantummystery6624 well the broken box office attendance records and the two week extension of her run in the show prove your doubts WRONG. Google is free.
I’m not. She’s protecting herself. If Sandoval or Raquel hurt themselves, some of the blame would go to Scheana for all the vile things she said on her podcast and social media about them. She makes money out of their misery. I can’t stand her.
Ariana is really milking this. Scheana making this a teams issue like high school shows that shes just a follower. The show is vanderpump rules, everyone cheats. They need to stop clutching their pearls
Wow! Scheana is just a backstabber. Also, did you see the distain and disrespect Arianna showed towards Sandoval for even suggesting names for her book? She rolled her eyes with disgust for Sandoval just giving ideas for a name of a book. Huge red flags. And we wonder why Tom wanted out?
@@Roz-y2d people make mistakes and bad choices sometimes. I have, you have, and billions of others. The one thing i can say about Scandoval situation is that they werent married or had kids. There was really no legal commitment there. TOM just fell out of love for Arianna and he felt stuck in a miserable relationship. I really dont get this huge international backlash that hes gettimg. People have dome worse in relationships, but TOM is the devil?
Show is a bore fest now ,Are they still gonna be mad a Tom 5 years from now. If Brock cheats that serious because of a child but Tom cheats on girlfriend for someone who he likes better big deal,Ariana went from most liked to most annoying
So far it’s LaLa and Scheana that I know have been said to be on The Valley. I hope LaLa and Scheana Segway onto that show (if they get a season 2) and either leave VPR to Ariana, Katie, Tom Schwartz and James and Ally or they completely start over back to season one where we see young people struggling to make it.
I am so happy for both Toms to be free from two bitter, hater and exhausting women. Both men deserve to be happy and have happy and kind women in the lives. BE FREE ♥️💙
I find it bizarre she’s claiming furniture when they moved in and had a house party there was no furniture and everyone was to BOC (bring own chair) remember Jax’s comments 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
She wants money for something she paid and that’s bizarre? All the furniture wasn’t bought before the housewarming so she forfeits her right to it. Do you understand ownership isn’t timed?
Ariana head is getting so big, Her yelling and screaming is too much. She thinks she can control the whole group. Enough with bashing Tom. He did wrong but let's move on. No ones perfect! Especially in this group they've all messed around with each out!
He cheated, wah! He can be an idiot and annoying but he has done more for each one of them than anyone else has, he always goes above and beyond with help and support he gives to his friends, they have all cheated and done nasty things... who do they think they are judging him lol it all seems so fake and contrived these days...
Narcissistic Tom was a serial cheater when he dated Kristin then use a narcissist smear campagin against her to destroy her that sadly worked. Then he was a serial cheater with Ariana. Sheena had a conversation with Tom about how many times he has cheated. Tom said that he cheated with Rachel, "miami girl" and one other "woman that was not a stranger"...so he cheated THREE TIMES on Ariana that he confessed too. This guy is NOT a good guy to anyone. He is a masterful manipulator con artist. You are easily manipulated by Sandervol. (it's not all fake...his cheating was not "fake")
What did he do for Lala besides say she had her child to copy Stassi? He yelled at Teri until she cried and skipped Ariana’s grandmother’s funeral to cheat with Rachel in their home. Gaslit Scheana and painted Ally as a liar when asked about the Abbey. He sang a song about Schwartz losing his house. Just because he does some good things doesn’t mean people owe endless forgiveness.
Once again Sheena makes it about herself. If you are so grateful to him why did you take the first opportunity to bash him in the head with your podcast?
Totally agree. She has been so wicked to him and Raquel. And only stopped when LVP said he’d had dark thoughts. She didn’t want to be blamed for them hurting themselves. I can’t stand Scheana.
In my opinion they should let Arianna hate him if she wants but they have to move in as friends especially if that friend has been good to you in the past and didn't really do anything personally bad to you.
The way these people are treating Tom Sandoval is hideous! Ariana’s superior attitude, powerful enough to turn others against Tom is ridiculous! Ariana needs to take responsibility for her part in the demise of her and Tom’s relationship! Never ever one sided! Get over it already. Cutting friends off for being friends with one’s X is childish junior high school behavior. Your power is evil, Ariana! I hope this group wakes up, starts being adults, and realize they are being PLAYED by Ariana!
Scheana is torn became Ariana said she wouldn’t be friends with anyone who is friends with Sandoval. She is afraid if she is forgiving and nice to him she’d be seen a a backstabber not only by Ariana and the cast but also insane fans who act like Tom killed someone.
If the viewers cannot see how Ariana ruined the show with her evil spirit then you guys are the problem as well. She is out to destroy Tom and his friendships/job (the show we love) just because he doesn’t want to be with her anymore.
That’s over stating it. I believe Ariana was checked out of that relationship long ago, but was staying in it for the show. She didn’t care who he bonked as long as it wasn’t a friend. That’s what’s rattled her cage, and I don’t blame her.
Thank you Shaena for not being a sheep . Ariana is trying too hard to control everyone while she is enjoying a great life, but still wants to punish. Why does there need to be teams?
@@1521bbiez He told he didn't give fuck about her and supported Rachel's restraining order and lied about what Scheana said over the phone about it. He manipulative pos and has not apologize to her for that stuff.
You’ve got to be kidding. Did she remember his generosity when she was gutting him on her podcast and social media? She only stopped cos of what LVP said about his dark thoughts. Scheana doesn’t want to be blamed if he hurts himself. She has made money off his misery, so I hope she pays him back the 1000s he gave her when she was pregnant and broke.
Like I get it what Tom did was wrong but Ariana is bitter as like you’ve moved on telling people to pick sides etc is so immature . Like Sheena said he was there for her so to cut him off completely because he cheated is just not cool separate the 2 they are their own person . Let’s not forget a few seasons back Ariana was picking Tom over Sheena . & Ariana thinking Tom would pick the other Tom over her is wild 😂 they are friends
Scheana you should be friends with Tom. It's not your affair. People have affairs. Tom tried to tell Ariana he wanted to leave. She threatened suicide if he left. It's not straightforward. Let him be. Ariana's doing well. Very well.
Please stop spreading the bullsh*t narrative and do your research Ariana didn't threaten suicide she said that if they broke up her life in LA would be over as in move away, quit the show, shut down Social media.
Come on, when people are there for you, you are there for ❤those people. Ariana didn’t help help you, it was your friend. So why are you part of it. My ex married my sister and I was told not to hold grudges or my family would disown me. I’m crying now knowing I had to accept to keep a family who thought nothing of me.
You know what John, I would have disowned them for expecting me to do that. Would you be happier without them? If so, just walk away without a word to them. I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Yes he cheated, yes it's wrong and yes he's to face consequences for that, BUT enough move on either let him go completely and forgive him completely They are beating a dead horse at this point!
Season 12. Ariana moves out. Tom and Jax move in with Tom. Three single 40+yr olds run amuck, high jinx abound. Rachel shows up, chaos ensues. Your welcome, production🍿🍹🍿🍹🍿🍹🍿🍹🍿
It was the pandemic. Huge mortgage payments and utilities, plus medical bills. And Brock about as useful as a chocolate teapot. No wonder Scheanas mum doesn’t like him. Mind you, I don’t know how he puts up with Scheana either.
In 4:10 you can really see how much Ariana tolerated Tom during their relationship. Good for her in turning a negative experience into a positive one, but I hate how much this has been dragged out. With all her endorsements, appearances, and etc., I think she could live a happy life not filming with him anymore and having true peace. If my ex did this, there’s no way I’d want to continue working with him. Also, how much can their home be worth, if she’s still fighting for it?! Take the payout and run!
Really? For him to suggest a name for her book? Tom is "horrible" for that? Are you kidding? Was he horrible for giving Arianna 90k also for her ventures? From that clip it shows to me that she didnt even respect his ideas or him. She showed her distain rolling her eyes. Thats a Big red flag! And you wonder why Tom wanted out!
Am I the only one who saw when Lala was packing with her mom in the room, there was two glasses of champagne on the dresser and then in Lake Tahoe she has a Heineken and cheers Schwartz? I just hope she doesn’t get out of hand again. 😢
Ariana karma came back to you and Tom. Do you forget you both cheated on Kristen? Scheana you are not smart just a follower be reminded from your own mouth Tom helped you when no one else helped you. To the entire cast back off Alcohol Consumption. New story line is required and needed for all.
Did people not watch Seasons 3-9? Ariana was horrible to Tom, she spoke down to him, she thinks shes knows best about everything! Did she deserve what he did to her? Absolutely not! But this whole "queen" status she has is going to her head
@wilfredocruz5596 You're right, they started filming again in the last week of June, three months after the reunion. The trip to Tahoe was in August.
Tom cheated on Ariana NOT Scheana. She was friends with Tom before Ariana. They need to stop acting like their victims. People cheat. It’s fucked up because they ALL have issues and they have have had affairs at some point. If they want to keep VPR, retool with newer, younger people at SUR who actually work there like the show was meant to be about.
Obviously Sandoval is a cheater but when the hell did he become the devil to everyone? He made a huge mistake and took a lot of warranted hate for it but now it’s time to let it go. Y’all are beating him up at this point and he’s human at the end of the day. I just can’t imagine guys and their friends teaming up against a girl who cheated on their homeboy.
Why was shenna pregnat no money on a show 10 years? What do people do with all there money?. Now she's in a 2.5 million dollarhome from this affair. Unteal
Y'all this can't be the whole story line of the season, is there anything else they can talk about? We get it she got cheated on, life moves on yoh aowa bathong
The way I see it, if Scheana doesn’t want to feel “bad” or feel like she owes Sandoval, then she should give him back the money he gave her. DONE!!!! No guilt!! Just annoyed with her “people pleasing” ways. Just stop already and save yourself from all that toxic mentality.
I'm sure a lot of this show is scripted, but from what I've seen, they're all abusive towards the people around them (friends and partners alike). They've all cheated at some point. They live for putting themselves in toxic situations for the sake of remaining on tv and then milking it for as long as they can by playing victim. No matter who is talking, no matter what the situation, it's the same story of the pot calling the kettle black 😒
Tom’s always been a cheater and they always been friends with him. Ariana brought it on herself mostly for saying if he left her she would off herself she needs serious help!
I'm cheering all of them on so much, I can't wait to see them thrive even more, I don't care about the fights they all care for each other that's clear!!
I don't get why people keep saying 'people cheat on their partners all the time' THIS MAN CHEATED ON HER WHILE HER DOG WAS SICK IN HER HOUSE WITH HER BEST FRIEND WHILE SHE WAS AWAY FOR A FAMILY MEMBERS FUNERAL I don't care what any of y'all say that's unforgivable. Also you know he's not a good person when he is comparing his scandal to the death of George Floyd... I can't believe everyone is falling for production's redemption edit of Sandoval it's actually insane.
Ariana doesn't have to forgive him if she doesn't want to but she has no right expecting everyone else to keep hating on him and end their friendship with him! Lets not forget that Ariana is no saint either. Just as Racheal screwed around with Sandoval behind Ariana's back so too did Ariana behind Kristin's back and lied to her face for a good year or more!
@@lindab424 I'm not saying I like Ariana because i don't think anyone on this show has amazing morals (but clearly Tom sandoval has the worst) all I'm saying is that if I were in a situation where my partner did that to me (not just cheated on me but cheated on me with one of my really close friends) I would expect someone like Scheana who claims to be my 'best friend' to cut him off too. I don't think she wants people to hate on him I think it's that she wants the people in her circle to not be so two faced for example hating on Sandoval on a podcast and profiting off of her pain whilst also actively trying to become friends with him again 🤷♀
@@mikic1147 Then you would also be acting entitled too and telling your friends you don't really value them or their friendship. Scheana and co can be pissed off him for a time and then work through their issues with him and reconnect their friendship. That has nothing to do with Ariana. That is not being two faced, that is being a mature adult. Scheana had a close friendship with him that was independent from her friendship with Ariana while the two of them were still together. Scheana has said it was Tom who helped her out during the pandemic when she couldn't pay her bills, Ariana did jack shit to help her when she needed it. Sounds like Tom is the better friend to her so why should she throw that away if they can sort their shit out? There is no reason she can't continue to share friendships with both of them independently now Tom & Ariana have split up.
The crying over Tom is ridiculous. Girl, he was about to throw you under the bus for "assaulting" his then mistress. Wake up. What kind of friend is that.
This "team whoever" seems very high school to me. Your friends are your friends. There doesn't need to be a choice made and adults know that. And the anger towards Schwartz is crazy. He's a good friend to Sandavol.
Tom was there for you and gave you money NOT Arianna TOM ... Not saying he isn't wrong but Team Arianna!! Come on where was she when u needed a friend?
Ariana..you cant tell others who to be friends with. Thats very immature of you. You can ask them not to talk about you with him, but you are going to lose here. Except Katie and that would not be a big loss
6:36 the instructor trying to act like what Tom’s telling her was new news lol
That was kinda funny lol
Bravo,that's ENOUGH NOW WITH THIS STORYLINE. EVERY single one of these adults ,had done cheating sleeping with each other. Where was Brock when she was pregnant and struggling financially?
Good question!
Exactly!
Golfing?
This show needs to be canceled after this season. Between the fake friendships, no true storylines and lack of maturity amongst the cast, this show is past its prime. They are all too old to be acting the way they do.
nah
Don’t watch it’s that simple.
No just bring back Stassi
100%
Agreed
Well dang that was nice of Tom Sandoval to give Sheena money during the pandemic but then during the reunion he says he is not friends with her
Tom didn't say he's not friends with Sheana at the reunion! He actually said the opposite.
From the beginning Tom has been a very giving friend, always ready to help any of them....just bc 1 season he kinda went off the deepend doesn't mean he's a narcissist. Their relationship has been over for awhile, he knew he couldn't stay in it any longer....not healthy for either of them
Why is Shenna borrowing money? She has NO emergency bank savings.
@@dianenolan8645 your delusional if you don't think he is a narcissist. He's a horrible human being and can't keep his mouth shut.
@@jansmith3158She didn’t say she asked for it, she said, she woke up to a deposit from him.
She lives like she has Lisa V money@@jansmith3158
You guys dropped the ball so hard this season.
This adds context to why Scheana feels torn…there’s always more to the story. Sandoval did something horrible but that doesn’t mean everything he ever has done or ever will do it terrible. Everyone can be on their own timeline with forgiveness, but Scheana has the right to move on if she wants to.
You have to watch someones pattern of behavior especially if it's horrible behavior.
Tom was a SERIAL cheater when he dated Kristin. He was able to manipulator the cast AND Viewers to narcissist blame shift all the relationship problems on to Kristin.
Tom was a SERIAL cheater with Ariana. He confessed to Shenna that he cheated with Rachel, "miami girl" AND "another woman that was not a stranger". He is now manipulating Lisa VP and the cast to just move on.
This is what narcissist like Tom do. They leave a trail of broken hearts and do not care they just move on to a new target victim. They are masterful manipulator to get everyone to feel sorry for them to get back into the group. This manipulation is called "narcissist pity me manipulation". This is what Tom is doing. He started with first manipulating Lisa VP. it worked now he is trying to crack the rest of the cast AND Viewers. Dont get suckered by Tom he is a masterful con artist narcissist always conning everyone.
Yeah he has done some really bad things, I’m not denying that. Just saying Scheana has the right to forgive and move on if she wants to.
Just because someone forgives him doesn’t mean they are sucked in and manipulated by him. Forgiveness is a personal choice. It’s less about the person who did the crime and more about the person who wants to forgive.
You’re such thing though his actions, and also his words and everything else that he’s done since his actions or what drew this line in the sand.
The split is because he decided to spend the majority of the year cheating on his girlfriend with their mutual friend in their house in her bed while she was at her grandmothers funeral like just really ridiculous stupid shit that you can’t really excuse you can’t say it’s a mistake or an accident that’s who he is as a person. Yes he also gave her money which, by the way would also tend to be partially Ariana giving her money because their finances are really tied at that point.
People are not just good or bad. Everybody does good and bad things you need to decide where your lines are and when one of your friends draws a line like this, you need to decide if that’s a friend you wanna have or not because you will be judged by what you allow your friends to do as well.
Just be friends with whomever you want! As long as you’re not being a backstabber…
NEVER be friends with con artist like Tom sandervol and his side kick Tom. They are very manipulative, cunning and patholgical liars. These are the people you get out of your life if you want a peaceful life.
Tom is conning all the cast and especially Lisa VP to get back into the group. He has ZERO remorse for what he did. He is only sorry for getting caught having an affair with a "Friend". He does not care that he broke Ariana's heart. He was a serial cheater with Kristin and Ariana. Beware of these con artist types like Tom.
@@jansmith3158he didn’t break her heart. She hasn’t loved him for a long time. She stayed because it kept her on the show, Toms businesses were bringing in $$$. Ariana loved the lifestyle more than she loved Tom. Tom, Ariana and the whole cast are con artists. Two faced. Especially lala.
I totally agree. Ariana broke up with Tom, why should everyone else be dragged into it and made to pick Ariana's side or risk her cutting them out of her life. She is dead wrong placing her friends in that situation. It is entitled, selfish and disrespectful behavior to think she has a right to try and control others.
You need to seek some therapy. To be this hateful about a woman who you only know one thing about - that she was cheated on - is INSANE. You really made all of that up in your head and now you believe it? You actually believe you know all of that about their relationship? Please... find a therapist. You're one hallucination away from brain damage. @@itelluwut4535
Shceana has always been a follower. It’s sad she hasn’t found her own lane yet. How grown are we?
Him cheating on Ariana it seems like it's the best thing that ever happened to her she's milking it for everything she's got.
Exactly. You said it. Cuz nothing else was going for her anyways.
@@aspencolorado1190 lmao. Ok. Sure
@@natashab3412I mean she’s been boring for a majority of her time on the show. Her most interesting storyline besides Scandoval was Miami girl, and she lied about it.
she had one movie lined up before but she blew up after that. @@aspencolorado1190
Good for her. When the show ends she’ll have millions.
What Tom scan did was wrong horrible, but it doesn’t discount every aspect of him as a human being. News reports are she stopped help paying mortgage and house bills since Scandoval. That’s not right. She is living her best life , opportunities that most likely would never have been presented to her had the scandal not occurred . Something to be said for finding out your person isn’t your person, you have more because of it, and are able to move on with opportunities in place. You don’t have to like them, but have some reflection , forgive and move on…in peace.
Why would she trust a liar to tell her the correct amount of rent to pay she told him to show her the papers and he won’t are you dumb
Scheana is team who ever as long as they focus on her
Truth. I can’t stand her.
Everything is about her though/s
She us a piece of work
Zooming into sandovals journal but then blocking chunks of it out…wtf
I ran to the comments with this
Because he’s probably talking about production
Scheana, the world might hate Tom but you don’t have to! The world doesn’t know him, you do!
I agree, that’s why I don’t blame Schwartz. Tom is his best friend, do you think Katie would tell Tom if Ariana cheated?
When Tom Schwartz cheated on Katie Tom Sandoval stood by him - he wasn't wrong in his assertion that Katie and he weren't right for each other as evidenced by the divorce. He should have given himself the same advice and handled it better. People cheat and people break up, they came after him like he'd assaulted someone. 😮
I understand Ariana’s point of view because she made it clear she doesn’t want to be friends with people who are his friends and if you chose that then there will be no friendship and you should just accept it. Scheana is entitled to feel the way she feels but if you miss sandavol and want your friendship back just be prepared to lose your friendship with Ariana because she set a boundary for her mental health. It’s for her whether others believe it to be childish or not
No, she's just petty.
@@mewho8714 Sandervol, Rachel and Schwartz all lied, manipulated, & were pure evil to Ariana for 7 months while hidding the affair.
Why the heck would she even want to be "friends' with these evil doers after being backstabbed daily by them.
Ariana is smart to follow the no contact rule with ALL Tom, Tom and Rachel.
It's very childish of Ariana because the entire group makes up the show. Like it or not Tom is a cast member of that show
If she doesn’t want to be friends with people who are around someone who hurt her then she has a right just as they have a right to feel it’s unfair to lose her as a friend if it they patch things up with sandavol
Arianas boundary is childish and infantile. Why isn't she not friends with Lala, Shaena, and James since they are all on vacation with her enemies? Why doesn't she remove herself from the TV show period. Why is she still friends with Lisa Vanderpump? It's stupid
Scheana needs to be team Scheana … Because that husband of hers is seriously frustrated with her! with all her issues they are going to be the next couple to go through a breakup 🧐. She’s a train wreck
Yes! You can also tell he’s over her mom.
I agree..I think her mother is only adding to the stress..Scheana needs to create firm boundaries with her mother otherwise she will cause a wedge between Brock and herself, then the only loser will be poor Summer..
Brock isn’t built to be a Dad long term. Let’s be honest
Oh this is so true. She lives in a bubble and that bubble is about to "Popped"!
Brock is being extremely critical and insensitive to what it is she’s going through. He isn’t listening to what she’s telling him at all. Yes, she needs to stop relying on her mother being the nanny full time but I also see where she is coming from as well because you can’t trust anyone these days with your kids so not wanting her to stay with a nanny while they’re gone for the weekend is fully understandable. She is working on it but he isn’t giving her any grace at all. From what I’ve heard from her on the podcast and other interviews she’s done they’re doing a lot better and they do now have a nanny that isn’t her mom. Summers almost at the age she can start school now as well and that will help.
The thing is, is that Scheana shouldn’t have to decide between two different people that she is friends with.
It has nothing to do with her. Of course, people make bad decisions and poor choices. But she was not in the relationship with him or her.
When a person says it’s either me or them, are they really even your friend?
You choose who you want in your life not by someone else’s choice .
Sorry no. I wouldn't be ok with it either. Same as Ariana
Scheana is / was Arianas best friend. This is about jealously. Katie jealousy. Fr Schena and bitter feelings fr Lala
i agree with that now...a year ago was a different story but now the dust has settled and i think scheana needs to stop with the people pleasing already...
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Sheana was Sandoval's friend before Arianna. She has been a really good one too. Arianna is turning into something else. Jay-Z cheated on Beyonce/ Clinton did on Hilary. It's not the end of the world and it's not like both Ariana and Tom aren't familiar with cheating. That's how their relationship started. Enough already,! 😅
Well said! 💯
I totally agree. Ariana is being manipulative and entitled issuing ultimatums. Why should everyone else have to end their friendships with Sandoval just because she is hurt and bitter? A real friend would never issue such a ultimatum.
They shouldn’t have got rid of Stassi, Kristen and Jax. They were all apart of the core friend group. Now the supporting cast members, like Lala, James, Ariana are main characters, and they just don’t have what it takes to carry the show. It’s sad to watch this show get progressively worse every season. Scandoval was the most entertaining things to happen in 2 seasons.
Completely agree. Those three were the trinity and everyone else’s storyline was around theirs.
Yes and Stassi is real friends with Katie, Kristen and lala behind the scenes. Not to mention Stassi had drama with Brittany and Jax behind the scenes also. I miss the authentic stuff lol
To have racist cast members that tried to get an innocent black woman falsely arrested is a no no. Especially in black history month. Heck No!
Well, Stassi and Kristen were being Karens...They had to let them go. I'm not really sure why Jax left but Stassi and Kristen were mean for what they did to the other girl.
@@fabfemme800 heck No! We are not bringing back racist karens that tried to get an innocent black woman falsely arrested! No no no no.
What’s crazy is everybody team Arianna but how she got with Sandoval is how it ended for her 😂
That’s unfair. He told her they were broken up and she kissed him. She told Kristen this on camera! Tom and Kristen were the liars back then, not Ariana. But she did know about Miami girl and covered for him, which made Kristen and Miami girl seem crazy. That was wrong. That’s it.
They be forgetting how she and him got together but I remember
@@Roz-y2d man we not finna pick n choose how to victimize shit, Arianna knew what was up! It’s karma
@@1upperYouBeezyThere’s no such thing as karma. Otherwise bad things wouldn’t happen to good people and vice versa.
Tom’s pattern of targeting women when they’re low, Ariana grieving her Dad, Rachel ending her engagement, is a classic tactic for making people dependent on you.
I'm sorry but no one gives you thousands of dollars when you're struggling just to give you thousands of dollars…. If someone did that for me, that is something I would NEVER forget! That's genuinely a good person! Tom just did a bad thing! But I do believe he is deep down a good person!
Thank youuu for saying this👏🏾 People are just fixated on that stupid thing he did now they want to crucify him for anything. He is damned either way and there’s no winning with this group.
@@chelseababe people are acting so crazy to the point where I'm starting to believe if he actually committed suicide they wouldn't care… that's terrifying! Its not like he killed someone, harmed an animal or a child! Then I would say “yeah… go to hell. I don't care what happens to you!”
But HE CHEATED PEOPLE. THEY ALL HAVE. GET A GRIP.
@@lifestyle7936 exactly!!! They’re all sheep just going along with the herd and it’s crazy. Ariana isn’t the first woman to have a man cheat on her with a so called friend and she won’t be the last. She’s just milking the situation for as long as she can but we are over it. It’s kinda sad because that was my girl and i really liked her. Let’s not forget that she too got involved with Tom while he was with Kristen, she was working at Villa Blanca all along but when then show came on she aligned herself with Tom and started working at SUR just to be on camera. I mean we all know she’s always wanted to be an actress. And she’s definitely giving a performance of a lifetime this season🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 trying to make everyone to stay on the hate Tom train as if she’s the Queen of the group like Schwartz said LOL! Heck, even Andy is over this storyline🙄
@@chelseababe the whole Kristen thing too! Everyone keeps saying it happened so long ago and I'm like and? SHE STILL DID IT. It's not narcissistic behavior to bring it back up! I'm so tired of everyone using the “narcissist” card whenever we point out the hypocritical actions of what was also once done to us! It's so easy to call someone a narcissist these days because it makes everyone feel bigger of a person when they use that word on someone else when it's all bullshit! Like no… it's not narcissistic behavior to bring up Kristen, it's LOGICAL point-making! ARIANA. DID. IT. TOO.
Just because it happened 9 years ago doesn't mean it doesn't matter anymore!
Not yelling at you btw. I just hope others see this comment too. 😅
@@lifestyle7936 haha🤣😂 I know you aren’t but I do the same too when I’m trying to get my point across because some of these fandoms just don’t get it!!! It’s really mob mentality with some of these fans and it’s nuts. Yep, exactly what u said about how people want to just forget that others cheated too but when it’s Tom they will ride it til the end. What puzzles me the most is that worm WITHOUT a mustache, James Kennedy. When he first came on NO ONE and I mean no one in the group liked him nor wanted to be his friend. Even Schwartz wanted nothing to do with him. But who was there for him and thee only one who gave him a chance….Tom Sandoval!! Yes Tom got with Rachel and I do get James’s anger but they had broken up and it’s no reason to vilify him. But nevertheless it seems like in real time the tides have turned on Ariana as her so called friends Lala and Scheana are not as close with her but we shall see. Ariana isn’t innocent and she’s the real narcissist here!!
Ariana is petty to expect her friends to cut off Sandoval. Is this middle school?
Yes, what he did was horrible. But everybody fucks up. Lets not forget how Ariana and Tom started. She was the other woman too.
💯💯
Exactly
Exactly she’s no Queen, They acted like Tom committed a crime at their big age get over it moved on.
That ISN"T her expectation that seems to be YOUR understanding. Ariana, just will NOT be friends with people who are friends with Tom. It's a boundary for her, play the tapes and see what she's actually said. She might be the most mature and emotionally aware one out of the bunch right now. She's gone as far as to say she knows she's being annoying but that's how she feels.
I'd be petty too 4 months if my life partner was banging someone in my house and lying about it for 7+ months. Ariana has every right to be petty considering there was an affair.
Schena, here is doing what she does best playing the victim, and how it affects her the most because naturally, Sandoval is one of her "best" friends. When all Schena needed to say to Ariana was, 'I want Sandoval in my life and I want you and I'll do my best to keep you two separate in my life. If that means I lose you, that's unfortunate because I love you, friend." Schena is trying to avoid hate from fans right now, as you can see being friends with Ariana gets more brand deals than Sandoval. She's got no backbone.
I do agree how you get them is how you'll lose them.
@@precillagowrie3143 what does « I won’t have mutual friends with him » mean? It means « your either my friend or his » it means « chose me or him ».
It’s what I hear my adolescent cousin and her girlfriends talk about.
She’s still hurting but she shouldn’t be telling the others who to be friends with. I’m glad LVP had words with Lala and Scheana cos it’s gone way to far.
The cocktails cover is kind of a slayyyy
That was nice of him helping her with money.
EXTREMELY generous!!!!!
Was it though? Or was it a pay off so she would support him when he fkd up? Think people!
@@WlknHope2024 EXACTLY
Trueee
@@WlknHope2024oh shut it!!! Why is it so hard to believe that there are actual people in this world that are generous enough to offer help. Believe it or not Tom actually has a big heart, he just made a dumb decision. He should not be crucified for what he did.
Ariana used to be one of my favourites on the show … Not anymore tho as far as I see it she sold her soul to become a professional victim for the industry and ole Tom is being ritually used in the humiliation ritual that their all playing a part in to collect the cash that they earn for virtually doing nothing for it except playing their parts to suit the narrative they’ve created, one guy goes down so the rest of them gain monetarily its just part of Hollywood dirty as always. Don’t Kidd yourselves this shit actually goes down whether you believe it or not it’s how that club plays. Oh not to mention ole Tom S was a pretty good friend of poor ole Issac Kappy too go figure huh!!!?
Schaena is "Team Ariana all day," yet Ariana wasn't the one who helped her out financially. Interesting!!!
I think the money would have been from both of them not just Tom
@@chloegrant8123 great point!!
Maybe Ariana told her to stop buying one nightstands Apple watches.
@@chloegrant8123
That would have been known by now and since it hasn't, she is being great full to the one who literally pulled her out that predicament. That's Sandoval!
Sheena and her husband are spending to much money. They have no emergency fund. Schaena said that she helped Rachel (prior to the affair) with a agent go get more money from the show. She said that Rachel was able to get a pay raise with this agent to over $350,000 for the whole season. So Sheena must be making that kind of money or more too. Yet she had no money to pay bills and had to borrow money from Tom.
I’m so over Ariana at this point. I was totally on her side in the beginning when it all came out to still be cashing in on something that she found out about A YEAR AGO tomorrow and is seeing someone new it’s time to move on with your life. You decided to stay on the cast beside him on a show he was already on before you because of the benefits your getting from it all. Life goes on. You don’t have to like him but stop playing chess with your friends
This was filmed right after the Scandoval so she has the right to not be over it yet
She was already with someone else at the point of filming
If they stop talking about what T.S. did and their feelings about that (cause they already have a great deal), what will they talk about ? Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
Im so over this. They arent married have no kids omg move on
The funny thing is Ariana did NOT want to be on the show in the beginning because she was so uncomfortable in front of the camera. Look at her now. 😂😂😂😂😂
Yep, and she’s raking in millions.
She go keep this “I got cheated on thing” for every season and honestly it’s sad it happened but she still in the same house as him so what’s the point exactly and telling his friends who knew him before her that they can’t be friends with both is odd, and childish. I understand it but still girl please grow tf up and move on.
Move on? She’s on Broadway.
@@quantummystery6624 well the broken box office attendance records and the two week extension of her run in the show prove your doubts WRONG. Google is free.
I knew Scheana would fold but even I’m shocked at how fast.
I’m not. She’s protecting herself. If Sandoval or Raquel hurt themselves, some of the blame would go to Scheana for all the vile things she said on her podcast and social media about them. She makes money out of their misery. I can’t stand her.
Ariana is really milking this. Scheana making this a teams issue like high school shows that shes just a follower. The show is vanderpump rules, everyone cheats. They need to stop clutching their pearls
Ariana is the one who made it a team thing when she issued her ultimatum.
Wow! Scheana is just a backstabber. Also, did you see the distain and disrespect Arianna showed towards Sandoval for even suggesting names for her book? She rolled her eyes with disgust for Sandoval just giving ideas for a name of a book. Huge red flags. And we wonder why Tom wanted out?
I’m realising that now, but he still did a shitty thing.
@@Roz-y2d people make mistakes and bad choices sometimes. I have, you have, and billions of others. The one thing i can say about Scandoval situation is that they werent married or had kids. There was really no legal commitment there. TOM just fell out of love for Arianna and he felt stuck in a miserable relationship. I really dont get this huge international backlash that hes gettimg. People have dome worse in relationships, but TOM is the devil?
@@robertwalker9670 I agree. It gone too far. Enough is enough.
Show is a bore fest now ,Are they still gonna be mad a Tom 5 years from now. If Brock cheats that serious because of a child but Tom cheats on girlfriend for someone who he likes better big deal,Ariana went from most liked to most annoying
Who thinks they carrying this to a season 12? Watch Katie, Ariana, and Schwartz be on The Valley season 2!
So far it’s LaLa and Scheana that I know have been said to be on The Valley. I hope LaLa and Scheana Segway onto that show (if they get a season 2) and either leave VPR to Ariana, Katie, Tom Schwartz and James and Ally or they completely start over back to season one where we see young people struggling to make it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am so happy for both Toms to be free from two bitter, hater and exhausting women.
Both men deserve to be happy and have happy and kind women in the lives.
BE FREE ♥️💙
Is it strange that I kinda don't like Arianna... ?
I mean *none* of them are likable….
No, however I think it’s strange if you don’t like Ariana but like Tom Sandoval.
No
I can't stand her !
Shes insuffereble
I find it bizarre she’s claiming furniture when they moved in and had a house party there was no furniture and everyone was to BOC (bring own chair) remember Jax’s comments 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
So they got furniture a few months later. If she bought the furniture, she can claim furniture. Furniture is separate from the house.
She wants money for something she paid and that’s bizarre? All the furniture wasn’t bought before the housewarming so she forfeits her right to it. Do you understand ownership isn’t timed?
Nobody has to pick teams, that being said ppl do everyone who picked my exs side is no longer on his side ,so there’s that!
That's kind of reach though. Unless you are pristine, contexte is key and one's mistakes shouldn't determine who they are. None of us are perfect.
Ariana head is getting so big, Her yelling and screaming is too much. She thinks she can control the whole group. Enough with bashing Tom. He did wrong but let's move on. No ones perfect! Especially in this group they've all messed around with each out!
He cheated, wah! He can be an idiot and annoying but he has done more for each one of them than anyone else has, he always goes above and beyond with help and support he gives to his friends, they have all cheated and done nasty things... who do they think they are judging him lol it all seems so fake and contrived these days...
Narcissistic Tom was a serial cheater when he dated Kristin then use a narcissist smear campagin against her to destroy her that sadly worked. Then he was a serial cheater with Ariana. Sheena had a conversation with Tom about how many times he has cheated. Tom said that he cheated with Rachel, "miami girl" and one other "woman that was not a stranger"...so he cheated THREE TIMES on Ariana that he confessed too.
This guy is NOT a good guy to anyone. He is a masterful manipulator con artist. You are easily manipulated by Sandervol.
(it's not all fake...his cheating was not "fake")
What did he do for Lala besides say she had her child to copy Stassi? He yelled at Teri until she cried and skipped Ariana’s grandmother’s funeral to cheat with Rachel in their home. Gaslit Scheana and painted Ally as a liar when asked about the Abbey. He sang a song about Schwartz losing his house. Just because he does some good things doesn’t mean people owe endless forgiveness.
Once again Sheena makes it about herself. If you are so grateful to him why did you take the first opportunity to bash him in the head with your podcast?
Totally agree. She has been so wicked to him and Raquel. And only stopped when LVP said he’d had dark thoughts. She didn’t want to be blamed for them hurting themselves. I can’t stand Scheana.
In my opinion they should let Arianna hate him if she wants but they have to move in as friends especially if that friend has been good to you in the past and didn't really do anything personally bad to you.
If you team Ariana all the way then send him back the money he sent you
Arena has just become a moose of a friend. Saying she won't be friend if friends with Sanavole. I wouldn't be friends with het.😅
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The way these people are treating Tom Sandoval is hideous! Ariana’s superior attitude, powerful enough to turn others against Tom is ridiculous! Ariana needs to take responsibility for her part in the demise of her and Tom’s relationship! Never ever one sided! Get over it already. Cutting friends off for being friends with one’s X is childish junior high school behavior. Your power is evil, Ariana! I hope this group wakes up, starts being adults, and realize they are being PLAYED by Ariana!
Scheana is torn became Ariana said she wouldn’t be friends with anyone who is friends with Sandoval. She is afraid if she is forgiving and nice to him she’d be seen a a backstabber not only by Ariana and the cast but also insane fans who act like Tom killed someone.
Yep. Scheana is all about Scheana.
I can't wait until Katie and Ariana finally leave and go about their hateful lives' elsewhere. Katie has such a negative cloud around her.
If the viewers cannot see how Ariana ruined the show with her evil spirit then you guys are the problem as well. She is out to destroy Tom and his friendships/job (the show we love) just because he doesn’t want to be with her anymore.
That’s over stating it. I believe Ariana was checked out of that relationship long ago, but was staying in it for the show. She didn’t care who he bonked as long as it wasn’t a friend. That’s what’s rattled her cage, and I don’t blame her.
Tom didnt deserve for this backlash to go on and on its stupid
Agreed. Enough is enough.
Does Katie even have a life? She is just tag on. Blah 😑
I can't stand that one! Big 👂.
That’s Katie!
Thank you Shaena for not being a sheep . Ariana is trying too hard to control everyone while she is enjoying a great life, but still wants to punish. Why does there need to be teams?
I agree, I love scheana remembering when a fruendcwss needed and was there
@@1521bbiez He told he didn't give fuck about her and supported Rachel's restraining order and lied about what Scheana said over the phone about it. He manipulative pos and has not apologize to her for that stuff.
You’ve got to be kidding. Did she remember his generosity when she was gutting him on her podcast and social media? She only stopped cos of what LVP said about his dark thoughts. Scheana doesn’t want to be blamed if he hurts himself. She has made money off his misery, so I hope she pays him back the 1000s he gave her when she was pregnant and broke.
Nothing is attractive about a bunch of 40yr olds acting like teenagers. Everyone is insufferable.
I'm over them all now. And I highly doubt I'm watching the valley. This has been old and tired.
Oh my break up my break up , forever will it end UGH ! He did you a favour now move on geezus !
Like I get it what Tom did was wrong but Ariana is bitter as like you’ve moved on telling people to pick sides etc is so immature . Like Sheena said he was there for her so to cut him off completely because he cheated is just not cool separate the 2 they are their own person . Let’s not forget a few seasons back Ariana was picking Tom over Sheena . & Ariana thinking Tom would pick the other Tom over her is wild 😂 they are friends
Scheana you should be friends with Tom. It's not your affair. People have affairs. Tom tried to tell Ariana he wanted to leave. She threatened suicide if he left. It's not straightforward. Let him be. Ariana's doing well. Very well.
Please stop spreading the bullsh*t narrative and do your research Ariana didn't threaten suicide she said that if they broke up her life in LA would be over as in move away, quit the show, shut down Social media.
Come on, when people are there for you, you are there for ❤those people. Ariana didn’t help help you, it was your friend. So why are you part of it. My ex married my sister and I was told not to hold grudges or my family would disown me. I’m crying now knowing I had to accept to keep a family who thought nothing of me.
and it isn't Tom issuing ultimatums either, that's Ariana. Ariana doesn't value her friendship with Scheana or any of them.
@@lindab424This! The relationship didn’t mean much if you can throw it away over something that had absolutely nothing to do with that person.
You know what John, I would have disowned them for expecting me to do that. Would you be happier without them? If so, just walk away without a word to them. I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Yes he cheated, yes it's wrong and yes he's to face consequences for that, BUT enough move on either let him go completely and forgive him completely
They are beating a dead horse at this point!
Season 12. Ariana moves out. Tom and Jax move in with Tom. Three single 40+yr olds run amuck, high jinx abound. Rachel shows up, chaos ensues. Your welcome, production🍿🍹🍿🍹🍿🍹🍿🍹🍿
How could she have no money. 2.5 million dollar house. Like WTF she is always poor me poor me
It was the pandemic. Huge mortgage payments and utilities, plus medical bills. And Brock about as useful as a chocolate teapot. No wonder Scheanas mum doesn’t like him. Mind you, I don’t know how he puts up with Scheana either.
0:00-0:15 the morning song is music to my ears!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
It id Peer Gynt by Edvard Grieg, celebrated Norwegian composer. Listen to the whole thing.
This is the episode I’ve been waiting for
In 4:10 you can really see how much Ariana tolerated Tom during their relationship. Good for her in turning a negative experience into a positive one, but I hate how much this has been dragged out. With all her endorsements, appearances, and etc., I think she could live a happy life not filming with him anymore and having true peace. If my ex did this, there’s no way I’d want to continue working with him. Also, how much can their home be worth, if she’s still fighting for it?! Take the payout and run!
Really? For him to suggest a name for her book? Tom is "horrible" for that? Are you kidding? Was he horrible for giving Arianna 90k also for her ventures? From that clip it shows to me that she didnt even respect his ideas or him. She showed her distain rolling her eyes. Thats a Big red flag! And you wonder why Tom wanted out!
She's contemptuous because he suggested two bad names... The horror. I bet her therapist was silently weeping when she heard that harrowing story.
Sandoval helped Sheana when she needed it. Its a true friend. Ariana force people to chose if they want to be her friend..so immature.
It really hurts me to see Tom in this situation 😢😢😢😢😢😢
It’s gone way too far.
Am I the only one who saw when Lala was packing with her mom in the room, there was two glasses of champagne on the dresser and then in Lake Tahoe she has a Heineken and cheers Schwartz? I just hope she doesn’t get out of hand again. 😢
But what did his journal say? And what was blurred out? 🤔
Scheana Shay will say and confuse and cry and be on anyone or no ones side, just to be in the spotlight, poor Scheana!
Ariana karma came back to you and Tom. Do you forget you both cheated on Kristen? Scheana you are not smart just a follower be reminded from your own mouth Tom helped you when no one else helped you. To the entire cast back off Alcohol Consumption. New story line is required and needed for all.
exactly!!!! how you get them is how you’ll lose them🤷♀️
Did people not watch Seasons 3-9? Ariana was horrible to Tom, she spoke down to him, she thinks shes knows best about everything!
Did she deserve what he did to her? Absolutely not! But this whole "queen" status she has is going to her head
Does everyone forget this was filmed right after she found it? Lmao wtf
No, it wasn't. You mean it was 5 months after the fact.
People seem to forget how time works 🤣
Like I’m pretty sure the reunion finished airing a week or 2 before filming picked up again so everything is still fresh in their heads
@wilfredocruz5596 You're right, they started filming again in the last week of June, three months after the reunion. The trip to Tahoe was in August.
@@TheRedWineGal LMAO after a 9 year relationship and being betrayed like that? No, everyone is having unrealistic expectations
Tom cheated on Ariana NOT Scheana. She was friends with Tom before Ariana. They need to stop acting like their victims. People cheat. It’s fucked up because they ALL have issues and they have have had affairs at some point. If they want to keep VPR, retool with newer, younger people at SUR who actually work there like the show was meant to be about.
Them staying in the same house is weird as hell
Scheana always has to make everything about her...mememememe
Scheana is the most self centered person on the show way more than tom
Ariana ! Me , Me , Me. So over these grown ups acting like spoiled rotten little kids it’s beyond cringe!
I totally understand scheana
Obviously Sandoval is a cheater but when the hell did he become the devil to everyone? He made a huge mistake and took a lot of warranted hate for it but now it’s time to let it go. Y’all are beating him up at this point and he’s human at the end of the day. I just can’t imagine guys and their friends teaming up against a girl who cheated on their homeboy.
Why was shenna pregnat no money on a show 10 years? What do people do with all there money?. Now she's in a 2.5 million dollarhome from this affair. Unteal
That team Ariana stand didnt last long for Scheana or Lala!
Y'all this can't be the whole story line of the season, is there anything else they can talk about? We get it she got cheated on, life moves on yoh aowa bathong
Ariana is so annoying! She’s getting to big for her head her ego…. She doesn’t rule the world.
Ariana is so petty at this point
The way I see it, if Scheana doesn’t want to feel “bad” or feel like she owes Sandoval, then she should give him back the money he gave her. DONE!!!! No guilt!! Just annoyed with her “people pleasing” ways. Just stop already and save yourself from all that toxic mentality.
Who else paused and read TS’ journal?
Very nice of him to give her money...but he and Tom Schwartz seem to be very loyal friends to the group. The rest, not so much 🤷🏼♀️
There’s loyalty and then there’s LOYALTY. It’s all dependent on what’s going on and with who.
Oh good. I am now team Sandoval. He is always so damn extra, now I love him for it. Search the memory, Ariana was not a fan of the group,.
What podcast did she have that was cancelled?
We are witnessing the end of Bravo right now, and the network has no one to blame but itself.
I'm sure a lot of this show is scripted, but from what I've seen, they're all abusive towards the people around them (friends and partners alike). They've all cheated at some point. They live for putting themselves in toxic situations for the sake of remaining on tv and then milking it for as long as they can by playing victim. No matter who is talking, no matter what the situation, it's the same story of the pot calling the kettle black 😒
Tom’s always been a cheater and they always been friends with him. Ariana brought it on herself mostly for saying if he left her she would off herself she needs serious help!
She's a yoga instructor....not your therapist!
I'm cheering all of them on so much, I can't wait to see them thrive even more, I don't care about the fights they all care for each other that's clear!!
I wish that were true, but it isn’t.
@@Roz-y2d I recommend "ask and it is given" by Esther Hicks
I don't get why people keep saying 'people cheat on their partners all the time' THIS MAN CHEATED ON HER WHILE HER DOG WAS SICK IN HER HOUSE WITH HER BEST FRIEND WHILE SHE WAS AWAY FOR A FAMILY MEMBERS FUNERAL I don't care what any of y'all say that's unforgivable. Also you know he's not a good person when he is comparing his scandal to the death of George Floyd... I can't believe everyone is falling for production's redemption edit of Sandoval it's actually insane.
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Ariana doesn't have to forgive him if she doesn't want to but she has no right expecting everyone else to keep hating on him and end their friendship with him! Lets not forget that Ariana is no saint either. Just as Racheal screwed around with Sandoval behind Ariana's back so too did Ariana behind Kristin's back and lied to her face for a good year or more!
@@lindab424 I'm not saying I like Ariana because i don't think anyone on this show has amazing morals (but clearly Tom sandoval has the worst) all I'm saying is that if I were in a situation where my partner did that to me (not just cheated on me but cheated on me with one of my really close friends) I would expect someone like Scheana who claims to be my 'best friend' to cut him off too. I don't think she wants people to hate on him I think it's that she wants the people in her circle to not be so two faced for example hating on Sandoval on a podcast and profiting off of her pain whilst also actively trying to become friends with him again 🤷♀
@@mikic1147 Then you would also be acting entitled too and telling your friends you don't really value them or their friendship. Scheana and co can be pissed off him for a time and then work through their issues with him and reconnect their friendship. That has nothing to do with Ariana. That is not being two faced, that is being a mature adult. Scheana had a close friendship with him that was independent from her friendship with Ariana while the two of them were still together. Scheana has said it was Tom who helped her out during the pandemic when she couldn't pay her bills, Ariana did jack shit to help her when she needed it. Sounds like Tom is the better friend to her so why should she throw that away if they can sort their shit out? There is no reason she can't continue to share friendships with both of them independently now Tom & Ariana have split up.
The crying over Tom is ridiculous. Girl, he was about to throw you under the bus for "assaulting" his then mistress. Wake up. What kind of friend is that.
This "team whoever" seems very high school to me. Your friends are your friends. There doesn't need to be a choice made and adults know that. And the anger towards Schwartz is crazy. He's a good friend to Sandavol.
It's sad because Ariana could've shined had she given unbothered energy, but now...
Tom was there for you and gave you money NOT Arianna TOM ... Not saying he isn't wrong but Team Arianna!! Come on where was she when u needed a friend?
Ariana..you cant tell others who to be friends with. Thats very immature of you. You can ask them not to talk about you with him, but you are going to lose here. Except Katie and that would not be a big loss