These were two INCREDIBLY ATHLETIC women!! It's difficult to find two tennis players with this kind of movement, agility, power and speed!! Not to mention a serve and volley style!
@@igorgrcic1366 Seles was a punching ball for the top players of the 1990s and early 2000s: 5-10 win/loss against Steffi. 5-15 against Hingis. 3-10 against Davenport. 1-10 against Venus. 1-4 against Serena.
Navratilova was the greatest all-around player ever - singles, doubles, and mixed doubles. Graf was the greatest singles player ever. She retired at age 29 having won 22 singles' grandslam finals. Had she kept playing for another 4 or 5 years, I'm sure she would have ended with with close to 30 grandslam wins.
At the age when Graf won the golden slam, Martina was losing to pregnant Margaret Court, losing to BJK, Evonne Goolagong, Virginia Wade & was Evert' s bunny. Different player mature differently.
@@rajusaha855 At age 21 prime Graf was losing in slams to a 34 year old Navratilova. If Navratilova had retired at the end of 1987 aged 30 like Graf did, she would have a 7-3 h2h lead overall and be 4-1 up in slams. 🤷
@@tobiasisback4605hahaha a prime 24 years old Martina lost to granny 37 years old BJK in Houston. Losing to 15 years old Jeager 3 consecutive times😂😂 & then beaten by Wendy Turnbull. Had Martina not skip clay court & rebound aces then the h2h would have been different story. Infact 16 of 18 matches between them played on Martina's favourite surface.
@@rajusaha855 Haha, Martina never lost in first round of Wimbledon as #1 seed like Graf did to journeywoman McNeil 😜 😜 😝 McNeil beat Graf again in straight sets in first round of YEC, same McNeil never even took a set from granny Martina 😂
Steffi Graf was absolutely lethal on grass. Her tactic of keeping her returns low to neutralize Navratilova's 1st volley attempts set up passing shot after passing shot for Graf, and forced a huge number of Navratilova volley errors. This was a great era for women's tennis. Both are champions.
It would have been better for women’s tennis for the courts to stay that way. The problem was the big servers on the men’s side making tennis unwatchable.
@@FlabbyTitmussyup. There was a sweet spot for women’s tennis in the 90s that allowed for a huge diversity of game plays, many of which were rewarding. Think Graf, Navratilova, Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Sabatini, Capriati, Novotna, Pierce, Martinez, Davenport, Hingis, Serena and Venus Williams. There was so much diversity in their games styles.
Le niveau de tennis produit par ces deux super championnes est extraordinaire, enthousiasmant!👏 Et pour ma part, ma préférée est toujours Steffi, la plus grande tenniswoman de tous les temps! Revoir ses matchs est toujours agréable.
I’ve watched the ‘89 US Open final a bunch of times, where Martina loses from up a set and 4-2. I’d forgotten that she blew the 5-2 lead in the second set of this match. A real harbinger of her challenge closing out leads against Graf.
Unfortunately Martina was the Roger of the WTA. Despite her achievements she should have won more - at least 4 more slams. But mentally wasn't as strong as her strongest competitor.
Navratilova and Graf. That some serious, high level skill. Such contrast, too. They have this rivalry, and I like both of them, so I watch match and it just like blow your mind. If you not caught up in who have to win to suit you, you notice a LOT more.
I was a great fan of tennis in the 70s, and I still am. Watched Graf and the rest. The more I watch the reruns, I am convinced by what Navratilova, Evert, and Davenport said. If you can manage to stay away from Graf's killer forehand, you had a chance. Having said that, you also have to limit your own errors too.
@carrerau7138 exactly... as Martina said, you have to try not to serve or hit in that direction. She didn't say it was easy or that you could. It was possible, though.
Navratilova played 33 slams on grass (23 Wimbledon, 8 AOs, 2 USOs) and won 12 of them. That is 36 %. Steffi played 14 slams on grass (all Wimbledon) and won 7 of them. That is 50 %. Serena played 21 slams on grass (all Wimbledon) and won 7 of then (That is 33 %). Margaret Court played 37 slams on grass (14 AO, 12 Wimbledon, 11 USO) and won 19 of them. That is 51 %. Even if you only count open era it is 8 grass slam wins of 16 played (50 %). Court is clearly the greatest grass court player ever. I would rate even Steffi higher than Navratilova.
Navratilova won 9 Wimbledons, Graf 7. Navratilova won 12 grass court slams, Graf 7. Navratilova won 32 grass court titles, Graf 7. Martina has the best grass court winning percentage in the pro era. Graf has the 6th, behind Court, Nav, Serena, and even Evert and BJK. Please 😂
@@carrerau7138If Court is the greatest grass court player ever then she is the greatest player period. 11 of her slams were won at AO on grass against limited competition. You can’t discount Court as GOAT on account of AO vs. Graf but then trot her out to undermine Navratilova's grass record. You are so dishonest.
@@tobiasisback4605 Both Court and Graf are greater than all these Americans. Court had to say this: "But I always thought Steffi was the best. She was my favorite. She won the Grand Slam in 1988 (Australian, French, Wimbledon and US Open) and I always loved watching her because of her athleticism and style.“ (Margaret Court, press conference Melbourne, January 2020)
To think she beat Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Evert, and Navratilova in four straight rounds is amazing. And that she lost only 13 games in the 8 sets she won in those four matches --- Wow! (Of course, she lost a tiebreak set to Martina in the final though.)
Seles was 15 and it was her first year on the WTA tour, Chris Evert was 15 years older than Graf (and playing her last Wimbledon) and Martina was 13 years older. Hardly an even playing field.
@@pablofrank2466 Yeah, everyone knows Graf didn't play those 4 in the span of a week when each of those 4 were at their respective peaks. That's obvious. It's still spectacular that she beat 4 all time greats in a row with the loss of so few games.
I actually think Martina was playing better in 1989 than in 88…she seemed a bit more alert and had more on the serve. The trouble is Steffi was better too and even more assured and confident. Still, a well played match.
Between June 1989 and April 1990 Martina had a 67-3 win/loss streak. ALL three losses were against the great Steffi. Navratilova won one set in each of those matches. Without Steffi Martina surely would have had a 70-match unbeaten run. The myth that she was "too old" in 1989 is exactly that - a myth. A myth spread by bitter US fans who can't accept that a European is the female GOAT.
That’s the GOAT 22 Slams before her 30th birthday and supplanted 2 of the All Time greats to breakthrough. I know Seles got stabbed and was off the court for 2 years. But Serena played in a horribly weak women’s field for the majority of her career.
The next year [1990] Graf - in one of her worst matches in GS appearances - got defeated by Zina Garrison (!) in the SF, basically giving Navratilova her 9th (!) and last Wimbledon Championship.
Both, Steffi Graf and Martina Navratilova, were at that time the best tennisplayers worldwide. I remember when Graf defeated Navratilova the first time in the final of Berlin. Navratilova couldn't believe it, she was crying all the time, finally she arranged with her first loss against Graf.
One big difference in this match, IMO, was return of serve: Graf's service-return game was much better than Navratilova's. Martina missed a lot of her chip returns and many of those that she got in were easy pickings for the Graf forehand. Two great champs.
Andre Agassi made a wise choice marrying Steffi..both top drawer people being in their profession, and being charitible within noble causes in sacrafice and time. Robert at 69.
I have the videos of Roland Garros 1987 Final between Graf and Navratilova. I also have the Finals between Martinez and Navratilova Wimbledon 1994 Final
Once upon a time there was a girl whose dreams were thorn apart. Her name is Monika Seles and if some things did not happen in Hamburg Steffi would not have been a Queen for long
Without those things happening in Hamburg Steffi would also have won Wimbledon 94, giving her a 23 slam tally at the end. Since she already was 3-2 win/loss against #1-ranked Seles pre-things Monica would have suffered a lot more losses had she played in 1993-95. She knew why she only returned when Steffi was hampered by yet another scandal, the Graf Tax Scandal. But this time she miscalculated - Steffi was more mature and Seles could not profit AGAIN from a scandal engulfing Steffi (like the 1990-92 Graf Blackmail Scandal).
These were two INCREDIBLY ATHLETIC women!! It's difficult to find two tennis players with this kind of movement, agility, power and speed!! Not to mention a serve and volley style!
I remember watching this. I was 14-year-old boy then. Guess who I was rooting for! I had such a crush on Steffi Graf in those days. 😂
Lol , you are among many other boys that time
why the 😂? and who cares @ this story?
Steffi Graf was a joy to watch.
The two greatest ever!
How beautiful women's tennis can be....
Two of the greatest ever - I would add Serena Williams for sure!
Steffi Graf ist die beste Tennisspielerin aller Zeiten
G.O.A.T
Fast wie Monika Seles. Fast
@@igorgrcic1366 wer ist Monika Seles 😉??
@@igorgrcic1366 Seles was a punching ball for the top players of the 1990s and early 2000s:
5-10 win/loss against Steffi.
5-15 against Hingis.
3-10 against Davenport.
1-10 against Venus.
1-4 against Serena.
Seles war limitiert. Auf Gras hat sie kein Land gesehen.
Genou 🎉
Navratilova was the greatest all-around player ever - singles, doubles, and mixed doubles.
Graf was the greatest singles player ever. She retired at age 29 having won 22 singles' grandslam finals. Had she kept playing for another 4 or 5 years, I'm sure she would have ended with with close to 30 grandslam wins.
At the age that Graf retired, Navratilova reached all 4 slam finals and won 2 of them in straight sets against Graf.
At the age when Graf won the golden slam, Martina was losing to pregnant Margaret Court, losing to BJK, Evonne Goolagong, Virginia Wade & was Evert' s bunny. Different player mature differently.
@@rajusaha855 At age 21 prime Graf was losing in slams to a 34 year old Navratilova. If Navratilova had retired at the end of 1987 aged 30 like Graf did, she would have a 7-3 h2h lead overall and be 4-1 up in slams. 🤷
@@tobiasisback4605hahaha a prime 24 years old Martina lost to granny 37 years old BJK in Houston. Losing to 15 years old Jeager 3 consecutive times😂😂 & then beaten by Wendy Turnbull. Had Martina not skip clay court & rebound aces then the h2h would have been different story. Infact 16 of 18 matches between them played on Martina's favourite surface.
@@rajusaha855 Haha, Martina never lost in first round of Wimbledon as #1 seed like Graf did to journeywoman McNeil 😜 😜 😝 McNeil beat Graf again in straight sets in first round of YEC, same McNeil never even took a set from granny Martina 😂
Nada melhor que uma partida de 🎾 tênis. Quantos anos na quadra agora boas lembranças inesquecíveis ❤🎾
Steffi Graf was absolutely lethal on grass. Her tactic of keeping her returns low to neutralize Navratilova's 1st volley attempts set up passing shot after passing shot for Graf, and forced a huge number of Navratilova volley errors. This was a great era for women's tennis. Both are champions.
The tennis volley of Navratilova❤❤❤Steffi the best athlete and the best forehand😊
The courts definitely played much faster in the 80s than they do now.
It would have been better for women’s tennis for the courts to stay that way. The problem was the big servers on the men’s side making tennis unwatchable.
@@jujumusique1305Totally agree. The slowing down of the courts has been good for the popularity of the men’s game but has been bad for the women.
@@FlabbyTitmussyup. There was a sweet spot for women’s tennis in the 90s that allowed for a huge diversity of game plays, many of which were rewarding. Think Graf, Navratilova, Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Sabatini, Capriati, Novotna, Pierce, Martinez, Davenport, Hingis, Serena and Venus Williams. There was so much diversity in their games styles.
These matches between these two are the best I have ever seen played between two women. Serena vs Justine are second.
didnt know she holds a tennis ball while she plays. GOAT!!!!!!
Uau…never saw that…fantastic
Great win for Steffi. The supreme champion.
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🥰
Great quality, thanks!
Le niveau de tennis produit par ces deux super championnes est extraordinaire, enthousiasmant!👏
Et pour ma part, ma préférée est toujours Steffi, la plus grande tenniswoman de tous les temps!
Revoir ses matchs est toujours agréable.
This so clearly video,how fast Graf! We not seen any other player fast like this today,
Graf was the best 😂
I’ve watched the ‘89 US Open final a bunch of times, where Martina loses from up a set and 4-2. I’d forgotten that she blew the 5-2 lead in the second set of this match. A real harbinger of her challenge closing out leads against Graf.
Unfortunately Martina was the Roger of the WTA. Despite her achievements she should have won more - at least 4 more slams. But mentally wasn't as strong as her strongest competitor.
Navratilova and Graf. That some serious, high level skill. Such contrast, too. They have this rivalry, and I like both of them, so I watch match and it just like blow your mind. If you not caught up in who have to win to suit you, you notice a LOT more.
I was a great fan of tennis in the 70s, and I still am. Watched Graf and the rest.
The more I watch the reruns, I am convinced by what Navratilova, Evert, and Davenport said. If you can manage to stay away from Graf's killer forehand, you had a chance.
Having said that, you also have to limit your own errors too.
But how to do that, staying away from Graf's killer forehand? 🤔
@carrerau7138 exactly... as Martina said, you have to try
not to serve or hit in that direction. She didn't say it was easy or that you could.
It was possible, though.
The pace was incredibly fast considering it was 25 years ago, simply amazing!
35 years, you mean😂
@@mariadeolindarocha768 Oh yes, it was 35 years ago!
THE GREATEST grass court player NAVRATILOVA VS THE GREATEST ALL court player GRAF. ❤
Navratilova played 33 slams on grass (23 Wimbledon, 8 AOs, 2 USOs) and won 12 of them. That is 36 %.
Steffi played 14 slams on grass (all Wimbledon) and won 7 of them. That is 50 %.
Serena played 21 slams on grass (all Wimbledon) and won 7 of then (That is 33 %).
Margaret Court played 37 slams on grass (14 AO, 12 Wimbledon, 11 USO) and won 19 of them. That is 51 %. Even if you only count open era it is 8 grass slam wins of 16 played (50 %).
Court is clearly the greatest grass court player ever. I would rate even Steffi higher than Navratilova.
Navratilova won 9 Wimbledons, Graf 7. Navratilova won 12 grass court slams, Graf 7. Navratilova won 32 grass court titles, Graf 7. Martina has the best grass court winning percentage in the pro era. Graf has the 6th, behind Court, Nav, Serena, and even Evert and BJK. Please 😂
@@carrerau7138If Court is the greatest grass court player ever then she is the greatest player period. 11 of her slams were won at AO on grass against limited competition. You can’t discount Court as GOAT on account of AO vs. Graf but then trot her out to undermine Navratilova's grass record. You are so dishonest.
@@tobiasisback4605 Both Court and Graf are greater than all these Americans.
Court had to say this:
"But I always thought Steffi was the best. She was my favorite. She won the Grand Slam in 1988 (Australian, French, Wimbledon and US Open) and I always loved watching her because of her athleticism and style.“
(Margaret Court, press conference Melbourne, January 2020)
@@carrerau7138 And yet elsewhere on this thread you say that Graf and Navratilova are “the two greatest ever”. 🤷
To think she beat Seles, Sanchez-Vicario, Evert, and Navratilova in four straight rounds is amazing. And that she lost only 13 games in the 8 sets she won in those four matches --- Wow! (Of course, she lost a tiebreak set to Martina in the final though.)
Seles was 15 and it was her first year on the WTA tour, Chris Evert was 15 years older than Graf (and playing her last Wimbledon) and Martina was 13 years older. Hardly an even playing field.
@@pablofrank2466 Yeah, everyone knows Graf didn't play those 4 in the span of a week when each of those 4 were at their respective peaks. That's obvious. It's still spectacular that she beat 4 all time greats in a row with the loss of so few games.
Navratilova's serve and volley is simply poetry
I actually think Martina was playing better in 1989 than in 88…she seemed a bit more alert and had more on the serve. The trouble is Steffi was better too and even more assured and confident. Still, a well played match.
Steffi kept passing her at net .
Between June 1989 and April 1990 Martina had a 67-3 win/loss streak.
ALL three losses were against the great Steffi. Navratilova won one set in each of those matches.
Without Steffi Martina surely would have had a 70-match unbeaten run.
The myth that she was "too old" in 1989 is exactly that - a myth. A myth spread by bitter US fans who can't accept that a European is the female GOAT.
We hardly see serve and volley game now days. It's more about power from baselines. These are truly great artists if tennis at display.
That’s the GOAT 22 Slams before her 30th birthday and supplanted 2 of the All Time greats to breakthrough. I know Seles got stabbed and was off the court for 2 years. But Serena played in a horribly weak women’s field for the majority of her career.
The next year [1990] Graf - in one of her worst matches in GS appearances - got defeated by Zina Garrison (!) in the SF, basically giving Navratilova her 9th (!) and last Wimbledon Championship.
Pure artistry and athleticism. This is what today’s game is missing.
Both, Steffi Graf and Martina Navratilova, were at that time the best tennisplayers worldwide. I remember when Graf defeated Navratilova the first time in the final of Berlin. Navratilova couldn't believe it, she was crying all the time, finally she arranged with her first loss against Graf.
I love you, Steffi...
Women's tennis was so beautiful then, unlike today's utterly boring baseline contest of unforced errors
а-h, o-h
One big difference in this match, IMO, was return of serve: Graf's service-return game was much better than Navratilova's. Martina missed a lot of her chip returns and many of those that she got in were easy pickings for the Graf forehand. Two great champs.
Andre Agassi made a wise choice marrying Steffi..both top drawer people being in their profession, and being charitible within noble causes in sacrafice and time. Robert at 69.
The change of game styles exemplified.
Steffi is the GOAT.
Incredible tennis.
I can't believe how the whole game, all the do is Serve and Volley :D
Graf was like a battering ram on the tennis court ; with unmatched foot speed in the womans game . its little wonder she won everything
Thanks
Nateratlova started off , she at times had a pretty shakey back hand slice. But by this mid to latter stage in her career it was working beautifully
Graf kept the second ball on her hand that's insane, no one do that ever.
Thank you very much, but could you please upload the 1987 Wimbledon final between Graf and Navratilova? It's Graf's first final at Wimbledon
I have the videos of Roland Garros 1987 Final between Graf and Navratilova.
I also have the Finals between Martinez and Navratilova Wimbledon 1994 Final
You notice how many top spin backhands Graf hit.
now that's how you play grass court tennis !
When tennis champs were true personalities and tennis was a beautiful game.
always some dimwit with this rote nostalgic tripe
@@sayresrudy2644don’t you have to go to bed? It’s already 8pm.
Era un altro sport, ora il serve & volley non esiste più
My God, how sexy Steffi and her game were! 😍
Navratilova was unable to change her game. Only serve and volley, a desaster against Graf.
Goodbye to the serve and volley approach
Once upon a time there was a girl whose dreams were thorn apart. Her name is Monika Seles and if some things did not happen in Hamburg Steffi would not have been a Queen for long
Without those things happening in Hamburg Steffi would also have won Wimbledon 94, giving her a 23 slam tally at the end.
Since she already was 3-2 win/loss against #1-ranked Seles pre-things Monica would have suffered a lot more losses had she played in 1993-95. She knew why she only returned when Steffi was hampered by yet another scandal, the Graf Tax Scandal. But this time she miscalculated - Steffi was more mature and Seles could not profit AGAIN from a scandal engulfing Steffi (like the 1990-92 Graf Blackmail Scandal).
This video is on the Wimbledon final Graf-Navratilova 1989. Please don’t go off topic.
Navratilova's backhand was . . . weak, unimpressive, not much of a weapon. A bit surprising given her record and exalted status.
Martina missed most of her volleys.
On grass, she had an effective slice...not as lethal as Graf's slice, but it stayed low and made her opponents hit up, making for an easier volley.
@@geoffreydy9739Because Steffi hit many wicked passing shots.
That's because the level was much lower in general.
Because todays women are much better, and many are better, also without regarding new raquet and string technology. The same is not true for man.
Martina looks a little tired in the final set.
Yeah we know it’s a net chord Bud
This the female version borg v macenroe
Except McEnroe got most of his volleys in...
The best level of tennis came with Serena and Justine , and the next level, is now, with Iga.
Gunter Parch….💅
Far better than hippo Serena. 🤮🤮
Martillo pilon Steffi
The absolute GOAT
Stefi is the GOAT.
Ooops, she did it again.