This is how I feel about your average person living in silicon valley as a midwesterner moving here. Everyone seems fake with scripted opinions and behavior
Think about it, all that's slammed into your face 24/7 in l.a is how you look, how you're dressed, are you over weight, are you an actor or are you a suit? Kind of car do u drive, where do you live. How many followers on facebook, twitter, Instagram do you have? Just absolute nothingness. I love l.a, but like hermosa, Venice, Long Beach, garment district, some parts of Hollywood the grimy parts. Bc that's where you find everyday people. That town is just filled with too many weirdos.
Prescott Fulton No. While the way you act is probably heavily influenced by other factors, there's a difference between acting like how you feel and putting on a show for an ulterior motive.
As an aspiring actor who has experienced the audition process several times I can confirm everything he says. I have witnessed so many fake, cookie cutter personalities. It’s really sad.
Im an aspiring actress, I've so far only been part of stage productions but its one of my dreams to work on screen, I've heard a lot similar things about the casting process and how tedious it can be but i was wondering what you mean by "cookie cutter personalities"?
@@tahsina.c Vain people that are only seeking to be an actor for fame. They are willing to be whats popular at the time for the sake of potential opportunity. I went to one acting course and met a few of them.
And some definitely sold themselves and fucked producers to get in. And they think they're so fucking special. They're nothing their entire life is literally pretending. Yet they're so pedastalized.
LoneWolfMedia I really feel like most big actors weren’t weird drama kids. Like there is no way Brad Pitt was a drama kid. In fact he wasn’t but I get your point. Luck is a huge factor in Hollywood but you need some talent too.
Dave Chappelle saw all this shit and more (sexism, racism, etc) in 2003 and bought his Africa ticket, but the whole world claimed he was crazy. LoL His Inside the actors studio interview was one of the best ever in 06 and still, nobody talked about the messed up stuff he was telling that people like Martin or Mariah were going through. But who's crazy now? My boy came back directly to Netflix, took his 60 mil and dont give a damn about Hollywood or PC culture. He is free, and cannot be cancelled. The GOAT!
Amir Nadarevic idiot can I tell u something “DAVE CHAPPEL NEVER WENT TO AFRICA . Idiot man ! He went to sighs a contract , refused to sell his soul so they killed him and cloned him . So please stop saying idiot shit like that . He went from tiny skinny to now he’s a fucking body builder ? Nah bro
@@rocketsauce420 the crazy/ weird behavior some celebs have shown, think Madonna, Ellen, Kevin Spacey. Do your own research, if you find words you don't know look them up, go down there rabbit hole.
You can nit pick Joe Rogan all you want. I respect him for being honest and calling it how he sees it at the moment. You can't ask for anything more than that. Period
@@StarmenRock it's body language. No matter how good an actor someone may be people always have a tell when they're lying or not being authentic. There's plenty of TH-cam videos on the subject. Useful stuff.
@@dirtthrower1998 Seems doubtful. He's too dark and moody for that. Most of the people into that kind of crap act all bright and sunny. Textbook example: Bill Cosby Worry not about the person who has trouble smiling. Worry about the person that smiles all the time.
This is so true. What he's describing is the difference between people who have a sense of themselves that comes from within and is positive, and people who are missing that so they try to mold themselves into whatever gives them external validation. This relates to how you were nurtured as a child and whether you had enough external validation back then, that you were secure enough to trust yourself. The people with a strong sense of themselves don't internally define themselves by the way people treat them or the way society sees them and they are able to think for themselves and have their own opinions. People who don't have that and need external validation, are in a weird situation because whether or not they get external validation has almost nothing to do with them, it's more about the psychology of other people and sociology of society. Joe Rogan understands, he just doesn't know the lingo that psychologists use to describe it.
This describes how I feel completely. I was an actor growing up, I won a scholarship. I started to get treated badly, like yelled at a lot, and I quit. My whole life has been like this, just not being able to cope, not feeling genuine, feeling like my mother was fake and stuff, not genuine, maybe that's why I crave validation so much, and yet when I get it from her I know it's fake, just like my personality in public. Now I don't care for validation because I know it's not true. My standards for myself will never be met, and I will never be able to be relaxed and be myself because I don't even know who that is, I'm always acting. It makes relationships hard. I'm not acting superior, just in a way that lets me put my head down at night, but I still feel like it's all wrong. I've been picked on because of who I am, and I honestly think I'm not really one of those people who people need in their lives
@@stefanleithner6922 very true. A lot of people are chasing fame and accomplishments to fill a void where they inherently don't feel enough as they are. Some are narcissistic while some want the attention and adoration they never received in childhood.
Anita Knight yeah there are 3 types of personality tendencies in succsessfull people. narcissism (neglected loce and attention from the mother), histrioncissm (same as narcisssism, but instead of getting attention by aggression, it's by drama, commonly these are the dramaqueens and kings) and perfectionism (usualy these people as kids only got attention when they did something in a good way but were ignored when not doing good).
@Kate-Lyn Harvey 99% is not supposed to be a mathematically accurate number. It is a short way of saying ' the vast majority ' By the way, the word you were looking for was 'literally' not 'literary' which has a very different meaning. Literally.
He's not wrong, I was in a relationship with a guy that wants to be an actor. He was a decent person but very unstable, lots of anger issues. Had a tough childhood and was abused. They tend to bury a lot for many years and carry it with them until adulthood. Hollyweird is a scary place indeed.
@@jamilahrazzaq8780 Don't doubt the industry tend to have some weirdos, would make sense that people who pretend for a living are a bit self righteous. But to assume that you cannot find people with your ex description anywhere in the world, in any industry is laughable. What you are describing is far from unheard of. And what.. I don't know the industry because I don't have a crazy ex or what?
@@adingus9832 Sure there are good ones but they are barely noticeable. I'm not talking about the world. We're talking about Hollyweird. It has a long history of corruption and instability. Hence the OP and Rogan's segment.
I've done theatre, and that was really fun to me. Acting on stage is fun. The reason I enjoyed it so much was because it was like being in a different life, where you don't need to worry about your completely average life anymore. You become part of something greater you know, plays filled with drama and action, something greater than life that everyone seeks out. I've wanted to be a mainstream actor since I was a kid but the odds of making it with your dignity intact are slim to none
yes. actors in their joyful retirement often go back to th elive stage, don't they. I recall the one time I wa son stage...felt like I was egoless. I think acting can be very therapeutic...
Worked in NYC hotel industry, nothing is worse than dealing with celebrities bc 90% of the time they will be a pain in the ass. In fact, a lot of hotel employees dread going to a celebrity's room bc they know there's a good possibility that it's gonna be unpleasant.
actor here, not real deep in the industry yet as i've only been professional for a couple years now but from my experience, nearly everything he said is pretty spot on, particularly since he caught himself and distinguished people who want to be famous from actors (huge difference, trust me). i might even argue that when he doesn't nail it, it's because he didn't take it far enough. this is a weird fucking world to be in and when you step into a weirder one of filmmaking, storytelling, dreams, and fantasy, it's... i don't know. it's difficult to describe but it isn't pretty. it's like all those koi fish in a pond and when someone comes and spits on them, they go berserk for it. at least, that's how it looks from my side of the pond, idk.
my first role in LA came during the month i got here but to be honest, i don't get auditions very often. i'm not going to dare open the can of identity politics worms that comes with that in a youtube comment section, but there are certainly several reasons why that is. in my experience, getting booked isn't difficult, but getting in the door is :/
I beg to differ. Acting is a path to wholeness and a way to embrace your shadow self that many other professions do not have. It is actually a gift. If you are doing it right, acting will make you more whole, create a better sense of unity with the world and awaken your awareness. But as Joe puts it here, most people are literally so stupid they have no idea what acting is other than external validation.
Daniel Danny Dee Aguayo I remember that first job interview, it was exactly that. Are you even worthy of this job, snooty shit. It was even a shit job. Yet you're looking at me trying to decide if I'm worthy of your presence. Fuck that.
Hes also describing the annexation of certain aspects with societorial developmentalistic view points throughout vast ranges of imperical evidince amongst wide varieties of calculated tomahawk pooping mechanismaristicly.
as a mental health professional I absolutely confirm what Joe Rogan says, especialy about how people have to fit their personality, and then the whole subculture gets distorted. success driven by trauma creates a culture driven by trauma
100% this. I was in drama from middle thru high school, also on newspaper staff/writer. I had the perfect storm of circumstances as a child, plus serious health issues early on. I found I could ease the harsh treatment of adults and the bullying (straight up harassment & cruelty, beyond that of young antics) by making people laugh. I could get out of the daily afternoon beating if I could make them laugh. Then I learned to not show/show emotion by displacement or thinking of something that elicited desired reaction. Fast forward to my early twenties, I took film and stage classes and auditioned for “Unsolved Mysteries”, but didn’t get the part, yet not bothered by the rejection, that’s part of it. Turns out after that I learned something else about me - I liked benefits, paychecks and time off paid. I didn’t have a job where I could take off at a moments notice to audition. The practicality that I once despised, imbued in me by my parents, who of course warned me of having something steady, chase your dreams on the side. Perhaps they knew, but didn’t explicitly state (okay, save for Dad, who once told me as a child Hollywood and it’s contents are “dirtbags”), of the darker underbelly and seeming prerequisite of being a power mad perv/pedophile applies to anyone who is in a position of helping you out, because as we know, talent doesn’t matter when you have puppets to satisfy your every vile desire. I thank my Father in Heaven every day for revealing what I’ve heard to be true the day I thought I had an audition and subsequent arrangements for a local (where I lived in NC) venue owner and well connected business man answered the door to his mansion in only a wide open robe and a vibratory device attached to his privates, on and humming. This was back in the 90s, suffice to say my dream chasing ended there, at that precise moment. Mr. Rogan, certainly you are not alone in your assessment of actors and their incessant need for attention and approval, and I laud you for saying all of this out loud, from Los Angeles at that. Maybe with all of these new platforms and ways to express creativity through film and music, folks like me who just want to do what they want to do and possibly eek out a living will someday soon have the chance because Hollywood one day won’t have control over talent via open secrets and various other offenses. I’m still queer as a three dollar bill, but thankful I didn’t head out to Hollywood, as I’m sure I’d have only found Hollyweird.
I'm sure that's how it starts for many but once they get that fame and money, it goes to their heads and they'll do whatever to keep the gravy train rolling.
Thank you! Lol somebody finally said it! I'm kinda surprised that Joe is using a straw man on actors cuz he usually doesn't do that. As an actor myself, I can personally say that I ADORE the craft and I practice it just for fun even when I'm not in a play or short film. Granted though, I'm not famous or even make a living off of it (yet), but my goal really isn't to be famous. I just wanna do what I love for a job is all. He is correct about the audition process though, and there are actors who fit the description that he gave for sure. I'm just surprised he literally thinks ALL of them are like that.
I did stand up comedy for a couple of years back in the late 80's, I was pretty good, I even opened for Bill Hicks and Sam Kinison. When I quit to be a building contractor, all my comedian friends asked why. I told them the main reason was I was to secure as a person.
I have to respond, don't ask me how or why I started stand up here in RI, I was living with my first girlfriend, dead end part time job, college full time, insomnia, depressed, I hit an open mic one night, BOOM, something I was naturally good at with little or no effort, I went on to Boston, NYC, and LA...so here's my two cents worth: presently, Bill Burr is #1, I call Patrice O'Neal "elephant in the room" THE "perfect set", a seasoned professional at the top of his game...then, Greg Giraldo, underappreciated greatly, it's very hard to make me laugh, the following can: Jeselnik, Stanhope, Attell, Pinette, and sometimes Tosh.
@@horaciocapanelli-soto4710 sure it does, though dude can't distinguish between "too" and "to" so I wouldn't let him build my house...in psychology, a human's number one fear is rejection and number one need is acceptance, the person on stage telling jokes perverts the need of acceptance to approval, the fear and insecurity of needing to be liked originates in self-doubt, self-loathing, toxic shame, etc. To truly understand this there is a program on Showtime called "I'm dying up here", it's all about a comedy club owner and the comedians that work for her looking to make it big in Hollywood. So when dude said he quit because he was secure, or okay with himself, he meant he no longer needs validation from others...a great example of this dynamic is actress Sally Field winning an oscar for best actress, she walks on stage to accept her award and cries, "you like me, you really like me!" Which reveals her fears but ironically how could we "like" her when she pretends to be other characters, we don't know the real her.🤔
I'd rather be a nobody than get negative attention. I'm the opposite. I would choose NOT to be famous because of the humiliating shit that happened to me as a kid. Being in the spotlight is a bad thing for me.
I have a wierd feeling being the center of attention too. I just want people to feel good but when it's a group putting the spotlight on me it makes me feel like the attention is fake or impersonal. I'd rather people give me certain kinds of attention or praise 1 on 1 or something. Idk man it's hard to explain.
Kids deal with trauma differently. Abuse can trigger your brain to compartmentalize. Some kids create pseudos, that's their brain protecting them so they can function like it's happening to someone else. You can see how both of those tools could help you become successful as an actor. You can box up all the foul stuff that happens in Hollywood, and creating and going into character is second nature. This is also probably why the victims don't come forward, it's been a normal part of their life. But sending in these personality types is like tying up a antelope in a lions cage. The sad thing is, when they got to the top- the fulfillment they need isn't there.
Spot on. As a third-generation native Angelino, it used to always annoy me when I’d hear the stereotypical criticisms of LA/Hollywood people being fake and phony. I couldn’t understand it until I started to hit the nightlife scene. It was there when I realized that we natives for getting a bad rap because some of the most beautiful people from little towns outside the state would come to Hollywood and craft a new persona while leaving who they were and where they came from behind, in order to be a “star”. Most all of them did whatever they could to get even the slightest bit of recognition. Even if it came to playing the game of providing personal “pleasures” to those who might elevate their public profile. Both sides are used, but only one side benefited. It was rarely any of those who offered themselves to the wolves. They were merely devoured, then discarded. In Hollywood, there’s plenty of meat provided....
This is the reason I like Joe Rogan. This is why I liked him in News Radio, and Fear Factor. He's a decent, honest and real human being. Not many people like Joe around these days.
Some points : 1. I’d be crazy if I was an actor and was paid the amount they are paid with the freedom that they have. 2. Paparazzi can turn you crazy. 3. My favorite actors are those that SEEM to be most grounded and have no effect from fame and fortune (Tom Hardy, Leonardo, Daniel Day Lewis & Joaquin Phoenix) 4. Actors/actresses are literally treated like gods and goddesses (only in US) and of course it’s eventually going to go to their head. Now more than ever.
Its about overpopulation and some people having a big chunk of cash. Money rules the world and the most desperate will do anything for it. Its disgusting but its always been this way.
i think narcissism is growing due to technology and how we are all becoming better connected and monitored constantly. Def could be wrong but it seems like everyone is so obsessed with themselves, especially in the film industry. you even see it in sports, these nerdy losers announcers who never played but they are famous for their "go to phrase." In that industry its all people promoting themselves and smelling their own farts
"mama there goes that man". I am much less likely to watch an NBA game when that idiot is commentating. "Three ball, corner pocket" is another one that for some reason no one ever calls him out on for being retarded
You’re right but let’s be honest...most of us would be doing the exact same thing. It’s just a side effect of the constant attention which results in an enormous ego and the consequential desire to stay relevant all the time.
Yeah, you're so right on narcissism. There's a writer/psychologistl/diagnosed narcissist etc. man called Sam Vaknin, he has an own TH-cam channel, and he's been speaking about this topic a lot. Very interesting... Check out if you want.
I did some acting for 2 years in my 20s, wanted to explore the field and everyone I met on set and people I worked with were damaged in some way. I felt like an outsider being from a normal loving family and realised damn this is not my scene.
Would you minn elaborating a bit more? I've been dabbling in acting for the last few months since I got out of the Army. It's something I thought I wanted to do but I'm not sure if its for me anymore
What Joe Rogan says at minute 4:00 to 5:00 is probably the most profound, valid, and articulate thing I've ever heard in my life; and I can confirm it's validity...I'm an actor, comic, and screenwriter.
I'm an actor, and this pretty much sums up most actors I know. A big pretend game that people put on so they can get in the spotlight. What Rogan says is true for sure. I pride myself on just being me and not conforming to what that expectation is, but, I also know that by doing that, the fact of the matter is I won't work as much because of it. Take for example the current political situation, and the racial issues and gun control and gender issues, lgbtq and all of that (the list goes on). If as an actor you don't agree with the majority of the industry on issues like these, especially if you're vocal about it, you're basically fucked. You won't work, it's that simple. The entertainment industry has a ton of people in positions of power that, although they may be good creatively at their job, they're ill-informed about a lot of issues. Views shouldn't play into how a person gets hired for the most part, but if you don't 'play the part' and conform to these people, and post on social media the same things they do, you won't work as much, or maybe at all. If someone is casting a project and they look you up and say, "well, he's talented but.. he's a conservative.." you're pretty much done. Maybe not every time, but 8 or 9/10 times, that's it. I make a living solely as an actor. I've done some tv, indie films, and I do a ton of voice work. I still have a good amount of down time, but I don't think in my case it's due to my views, because I dont post my views on social media, ever. I just post my work, that's it. And I think it behooves everyone to do the same, unless you're genuinely donating time/ money to a good cause. Other than that, if you have differing views from most others in your field, best to not ruffle feathers. If you want food on your table, in other words, pretend to be the status quo. You've got to play that card if you want to survive. The greatest role you will ever play is convincing the world you don't exist. You have to play someone else just to get in the door..
very interesting and I'm not surprised..I just recently moved LA for music but I've secretly wanted to act as well. I've been hesitant due to all the reasons of which you describe. I've always for some reason found actors and the psychology behind their personalities in pretty fascinating..but I wonder if there will ever come a time where it becomes about the art itself rather than this incessant loop of conformity and political ideation.
All this fucked up shit about the film industry is why I've vowed to devote myself to filmmaking. Can't get anywhere at this present moment since I'm busy moving to Nevada, but once I'm all set up, I'm gonna take initiative in my potential career.
Amazing insight into the neediness of actors. I can relate in a way. I was very interested in " making it" as a musician. But when I got the attention, I realized these people who could get me there were scum. I had a small taste as a musician. I hated it. The piles of coke they offered. The way they treated other acts. I saw bands get signed, locked into contracts that actually killed their careers, rather than help them. I could go on But I'll just get depressed. You have music acts who get chosen, in the pop music world, based on looks. Look at the MTV years
A similar thing happened to me with painting. I worked my way up to make all the connections that could get me to display my work. That was my goal, but I realized I despised all of them and their pretentious attitudes. It's like a "never meet your heroes" type of thing.
4:07 he's absolutely right. I'm a boy who dreams to be a good actor. And some of the things he said are part of the things that I was dealing with such as self awareness, anti social personality, insecurity and childhood abuses.
to be fair, acting is a craft just as much as singing or visual art is. sure, most celebrities might be crazy, but there's still lots of people who get into acting because they genuinely appreciate the craft, not because they're insecure and want attention.
Why Can't pretending be a craft though? I think it's a little more than just "pretending".. you're using your empathy and your imagination.. I feel like those things are used in all types of crafts
@@burnpoet Daniel day Lewis, Jodie foster, Lupita nyongo, Matthew Maconaghey, and Robert De Niro. All talented actors and actresses who have perfected the craft of acting.
I’m an aspiring actor, and I 100% agree with this. I wasn’t brought up in it, my education was in filmmaking and classics. My interest in acting came from making short films and having an upbringing of going to the cinema regularly. I can’t stand a lot of actor groups, as they are all almost the same in their mannerisms and opinions And I really do not want to be famous unlike most. I like acting because I love film and filmmaking and for me the passions go hand in hand.
not all actors love acting for these reasons. It is a drive for sure, but there is a lot more to acting if one digs. The problem is the fakes at every level of the business itself. It's a giant brothel. Joe is exactly right about the business side and about *most* of the people involved.
IN REALITY: most people don't know Joe Rogan from comedy, he was always the "fear factor" guy & then the UFC commentator guy & most people know Joey Diaz from Joe Rogan. I mean joe was fortuante to get the News Radio gig which led to good jobs. Personally I think his UFC commenting & Podcast are his strong areas & his WEAKEST are acting & then comedy.
I understand what you’re saying, but you’re being reductionist. Stories are the way we structure our lives, whether we are conscious of this or not. In their acting, actors embody not just examples of possible stories, but examples of templates for navigating life. Whether they do it well is another matter altogether. It’s important to recognize that people don’t praise actors because people are stupid, foolish, or whatnot. Rather, people do this because stories are a fundamental human need, and when an actor does it well, people are moved by it.
Well.. You could say the same for people that kicks a ball around. Thing is that this is a business and actors/sports people are a part of that business. They will do the Jobs that pays them most. Johnny depp created sparrow so that's why he gets like 50m for each movie. Singers are a product of the label they are signed for and is part of the business. So think about, actors, musicans and sport people as product for a business it makes more sense. Like how much money doesn't musk put into his products, same thing
they don’t get paid for their work or talent necessarily, they get paid based on how much money whatever movie/show they generates, however that may be. similar to why athletes get paid so much
When he said the main reason people become actors is because they feel discarded and like they dont have a place. That's true for me, it's not my main reason but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't trying to rub my dad's face in it when I get to where I wanna be.
“Cause y'all grew up watchin' Rambo and Commando and Cobra and Schwarzenegger, coincidently is now the governor of a state in America. So where does the social responsibility fall for Hollywood? Na'mean that's why me I try tell us that art is a reflection of life. I wants the youth not to shoot and leave a song about it “ - random jamaican guy in a song intro i heard once lol
I’ve never been to SF but I live in LA and I’d have to say it’s shitty af lol I have no friends and everyone is so wrapped up in their own little ‘special’ world aka their phones. I’m the kind of person that smiles at ppl when walking by and ppl just don’t do that here. They always expect you to move out of their way cuz they sure as hell aren’t going to move for anyone else, they’re not polite, nice, or even cordial. It’s genuinely baffles me how inherently selfish people are out here and you can’t get away from it AT ALL literally even at home bc you have to live with multiple random room mates just to afford rent. What’s it like in SF? Just as bad? I’m out in LA for medication that’s a lot more accessible here but I’m almost done with it and I can’t fucking wait to move back to Ohio, I never realized how much I took it for granted!
I simultaneously LOVED being an actor (not 'Hollywood', mind you), but absolutely HATED all the phonies and narcissist pricks (both male and female). There's WAY too much else in the world to involve oneself in. Acting is a subset of the greater good: STORYTELLING and education via storytelling. For me, it *never* had to do with it being ABOUT me, no. It was about making people laugh, cry, THINK, and learn something new. Walk away with something they'll remember. Treat people better, I'm hoping. That way-of-thinking bankrupts my credits in 'Hollywood'. 💪😎🤟
What's revealing is that all the actresses that said no to that predator, weren't A listers or blockbuster movie film stars. They were mostly all in low profile movies or TV shows. Like, you either get in the mud or there's the street. Let that sink in. Simply revolving and awful.
That’s true for every gig. You put on a super clean cut act to gain and maintain your job of choice. Granted, the bar is so low to be an actor, so many applicants, and so much you can possibly gain.
I think this just describes most people tho, not just actors. Putting on an act and just blending in with the crowd so as not to cause any waves, that’s what humans do. Sure you have your few rebels who go against that but as a society we usually shun those people, or at least try to avoid them.
As someone who loves Shakespeare and acting, I can tell you that not all aspiring actors want to be famous. Some of us do it because we love the craft and the experience and fame means nothing to us. You’ll find a lot more people who are down to earth and genuine within the play and Shakespeare world than in Hollywood.
Yes I think that that’s most of the start of actors carriers but like any job with having job interview after job interview you try to be someone your not.
Joe's final point in this clip applies to greater society. Doctors, lawyers, professors, priests. The vast majority of all information is groupthink and lingo that carries the individual from one position to the next.
Wow! Great interview! So good to see/hear you both be so open, raw, unafraid to say it right out loud! This is what we need more of in this world! Stop the POFS from abusing/using/harming others!
Rogan is too real for hollywood
Na he's fronting too
Jon Bones Jones Im too "Wood" ..For Real !
too real. so real Joe Rogan (aug. 2018)
He loved it when he was young...he's probably getting a little sick of it since he's like 50 now.
He's got a Job to do, but I feel he's pretty real on his show. He's very opinionated and that's a good thing to a point.
This is how I feel about your average person living in silicon valley as a midwesterner moving here. Everyone seems fake with scripted opinions and behavior
yea its because of mass programing
Think about it, all that's slammed into your face 24/7 in l.a is how you look, how you're dressed, are you over weight, are you an actor or are you a suit? Kind of car do u drive, where do you live. How many followers on facebook, twitter, Instagram do you have? Just absolute nothingness. I love l.a, but like hermosa, Venice, Long Beach, garment district, some parts of Hollywood the grimy parts. Bc that's where you find everyday people. That town is just filled with too many weirdos.
What you also need to realize is that your behavior is also "fake and scripted". There is no originality in it. You learned it all from others too.
Silicon Valley is cool, it has a lot of toxicity too though.
Like, I've heard stories of racist tech ppl and sexual predators too...
Prescott Fulton No. While the way you act is probably heavily influenced by other factors, there's a difference between acting like how you feel and putting on a show for an ulterior motive.
Joe needs to have Joaquin phoenix on the podcast
YES
@nowonyuno rose?
Domenic Tate real talk!
I couldn't agree more, although I wonder how likely that is as Joaquin appears to hate doing talk shows and talking about himself.
HOW ABOUT ANOTHER JOKE ROGAN?
Social media has been making _everyone_ an attention-craving narcissist these years.
Absolutely
Totally agree
Cry
@@xanmancan ??
Absolutely nailed it there, mate
As an aspiring actor who has experienced the audition process several times I can confirm everything he says. I have witnessed so many fake, cookie cutter personalities. It’s really sad.
Im an aspiring actress, I've so far only been part of stage productions but its one of my dreams to work on screen, I've heard a lot similar things about the casting process and how tedious it can be but i was wondering what you mean by "cookie cutter personalities"?
@@tahsina.c Vain people that are only seeking to be an actor for fame. They are willing to be whats popular at the time for the sake of potential opportunity. I went to one acting course and met a few of them.
It’s one of those industries I’d never wanna be part of the inner circles of; the other is music. Very few genuine people over there.
I saw stage mothers when I was an extra, scary
@Nadia they are moms pushing their kids into show biz, they will do anything to kid their kid into the limelight
Hollywood is just filled with weird theater kids who got lucky and made it big
LoneWolfMedia Lol fr
And some definitely sold themselves and fucked producers to get in. And they think they're so fucking special. They're nothing their entire life is literally pretending. Yet they're so pedastalized.
They didnt get lucky they got abused
@@gregory7406 I think this is where Sterling Archer might say "phrasing" (sadly)
LoneWolfMedia I really feel like most big actors weren’t weird drama kids. Like there is no way Brad Pitt was a drama kid. In fact he wasn’t but I get your point. Luck is a huge factor in Hollywood but you need some talent too.
Famous actor: Save the planet! I care!
*gets in private jet headed to Paris*
Leonardo DiCaprio: *sweating profusely*
Sweet little jacky boy from titanic
@@miguelvidal2335 i love leo s acting but he is one motherfucking hypocrite he is way too deep into Hollywoods bs play and cant back out now
@@tkokflux6322 how so? He finally got an oscar for one of his worst movies.
John Doe dude did u even read what i wrote your reply in no way correlates with my comment
Dave Chappelle saw all this shit and more (sexism, racism, etc) in 2003 and bought his Africa ticket, but the whole world claimed he was crazy. LoL His Inside the actors studio interview was one of the best ever in 06 and still, nobody talked about the messed up stuff he was telling that people like Martin or Mariah were going through. But who's crazy now? My boy came back directly to Netflix, took his 60 mil and dont give a damn about Hollywood or PC culture. He is free, and cannot be cancelled.
The GOAT!
Amir Nadarevic idiot can I tell u something “DAVE CHAPPEL NEVER WENT TO AFRICA . Idiot man ! He went to sighs a contract , refused to sell his soul so they killed him and cloned him . So please stop saying idiot shit like that . He went from tiny skinny to now he’s a fucking body builder ? Nah bro
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Man i rarely see such an amazing comment on TH-cam. Thank you so much mate!
I wanna get buff but im afraid people are gonna think im a clone
@@reeder198 This is the most idiotic post in TH-cam history.
All it took was a bit of COVID to show normies how nuts Hollywood is.
what do you mean by this
@@rocketsauce420 the crazy/ weird behavior some celebs have shown, think Madonna, Ellen, Kevin Spacey. Do your own research, if you find words you don't know look them up, go down there rabbit hole.
@@rocketsauce420 and watch "out of the shadows" documentary
ty g ive seen it and am well aware of pizza gate. i was just confused by how covid is the reason this stuff is exposed
NORMIEEEEEEEEEEEES
"People only want the people they LIKE to be right. Which is why popular people are stupid."
-Rick Sanchez
Did you actually just unironically quote Rick Sanchez?
@@aryaman_7 not unironically. Deliberately.
@@androssteague Irony and intention aren't mutually exclusive, fuck nut. Stop trying so hard.
@@QuisPiss don't be a dip**** this is all for fun.
shut the hell up 74 IQ man
And yet people listen to Hollywood for advice on politics?
Stephen Westover validation for Joe's point
Politicians are no better.
“Anytime you see a celebrity endorsing a politician you should smell a rat and get away from it”- Frank Zappa
I hate when actors give their opinions about politics or religion
Joe is funny, a failed actor bitching about other actors.
You can nit pick Joe Rogan all you want. I respect him for being honest and calling it how he sees it at the moment. You can't ask for anything more than that. Period
But how can you be so sure he's that authentic? I'm not sure about that, man.
@@StarmenRock it's body language. No matter how good an actor someone may be people always have a tell when they're lying or not being authentic. There's plenty of TH-cam videos on the subject. Useful stuff.
Damn right. It's rare to see that kind of honesty nowadays.
@Skimbiddley thats my point
@Skimbiddley oh ok sorry im not doing so well idk wtf was that
Except...our Lord Keanu
Edit: Its been a year since I commented this. Why am i getting angry replies now lmfao yall rlly need to chill tf out.
and Denzel Washington
It would be mindblowing to find out Keanu Reeves runs the biggest child porn ring ever.
keanu "im in like 4 or 5 proper movies sort of" reeves
@@dirtthrower1998
Seems doubtful. He's too dark and moody for that.
Most of the people into that kind of crap act all bright and sunny. Textbook example: Bill Cosby
Worry not about the person who has trouble smiling.
Worry about the person that smiles all the time.
Can someone please explain the Keanu Reeves hype
'You want something from me and I don't know if I wanna give it to you.'
Joe basically described every job interview I have ever been to.
This is so true. What he's describing is the difference between people who have a sense of themselves that comes from within and is positive, and people who are missing that so they try to mold themselves into whatever gives them external validation. This relates to how you were nurtured as a child and whether you had enough external validation back then, that you were secure enough to trust yourself. The people with a strong sense of themselves don't internally define themselves by the way people treat them or the way society sees them and they are able to think for themselves and have their own opinions. People who don't have that and need external validation, are in a weird situation because whether or not they get external validation has almost nothing to do with them, it's more about the psychology of other people and sociology of society. Joe Rogan understands, he just doesn't know the lingo that psychologists use to describe it.
Joe slept with alot of women before he let them be on Fear Factor.
That is a beautiful and clear explanation!
This describes how I feel completely. I was an actor growing up, I won a scholarship. I started to get treated badly, like yelled at a lot, and I quit. My whole life has been like this, just not being able to cope, not feeling genuine, feeling like my mother was fake and stuff, not genuine, maybe that's why I crave validation so much, and yet when I get it from her I know it's fake, just like my personality in public. Now I don't care for validation because I know it's not true. My standards for myself will never be met, and I will never be able to be relaxed and be myself because I don't even know who that is, I'm always acting. It makes relationships hard. I'm not acting superior, just in a way that lets me put my head down at night, but I still feel like it's all wrong. I've been picked on because of who I am, and I honestly think I'm not really one of those people who people need in their lives
Very well said.
Plus the psychological effects of everyone only loves them when theyre being someone else...
They rot on the inside
One of the things that makes Joe so likeable is that he is humble
That’s what fighting sports do to you
@@willbrown423 I agree , they also help a lot with self critique and not getting offended when someone critiques you
@@iiADIDASx you just generally become a more mature person when you're an experienced boxer,mma fighter etc.
99% of actors are deeply disturbed individuals. Not unlike politicians.
most succsessfull people are. You don't want to change the world or become someone, if you are okey with who you are.
@@stefanleithner6922 very true. A lot of people are chasing fame and accomplishments to fill a void where they inherently don't feel enough as they are. Some are narcissistic while some want the attention and adoration they never received in childhood.
Anita Knight yeah there are 3 types of personality tendencies in succsessfull people. narcissism (neglected loce and attention from the mother), histrioncissm (same as narcisssism, but instead of getting attention by aggression, it's by drama, commonly these are the dramaqueens and kings) and perfectionism (usualy these people as kids only got attention when they did something in a good way but were ignored when not doing good).
@@stefanleithner6922 very well said!! I agree. I'm a counselor and notice these traits and patterns.
@Kate-Lyn Harvey 99% is not supposed to be a mathematically accurate number. It is a short way of saying ' the vast majority '
By the way, the word you were looking for was 'literally' not 'literary' which has a very different meaning. Literally.
He's not wrong, I was in a relationship with a guy that wants to be an actor. He was a decent person but very unstable, lots of anger issues. Had a tough childhood and was abused. They tend to bury a lot for many years and carry it with them until adulthood. Hollyweird is a scary place indeed.
Hollywood can be a great place too though
you use one boyfriend as a reference for problems of an entire industry, incredible..
@@adingus9832 You obviously don't know the industry. Unstable ppl like the example above have been and continue to flood into the Hollyweird industry.
@@jamilahrazzaq8780 Don't doubt the industry tend to have some weirdos, would make sense that people who pretend for a living are a bit self righteous. But to assume that you cannot find people with your ex description anywhere in the world, in any industry is laughable. What you are describing is far from unheard of.
And what.. I don't know the industry because I don't have a crazy ex or what?
@@adingus9832 Sure there are good ones but they are barely noticeable. I'm not talking about the world. We're talking about Hollyweird. It has a long history of corruption and instability. Hence the OP and Rogan's segment.
Oh, so it's like highschool.
I've done theatre, and that was really fun to me. Acting on stage is fun. The reason I enjoyed it so much was because it was like being in a different life, where you don't need to worry about your completely average life anymore. You become part of something greater you know, plays filled with drama and action, something greater than life that everyone seeks out. I've wanted to be a mainstream actor since I was a kid but the odds of making it with your dignity intact are slim to none
acting in front of a camera is fun too... especially when you are leaving the bank with a few benjis to sit back on
yes. actors in their joyful retirement often go back to th elive stage, don't they. I recall the one time I wa son stage...felt like I was egoless. I think acting can be very therapeutic...
Worked in NYC hotel industry, nothing is worse than dealing with celebrities bc 90% of the time they will be a pain in the ass. In fact, a lot of hotel employees dread going to a celebrity's room bc they know there's a good possibility that it's gonna be unpleasant.
Gr Bo could you explain a bit more? A genuine question
Uzair Khokhar Leave him alone ok. Just leave him alone.
Poor thing
I had this famous dex lookinh dude pull up to the drive through one time and he was a cocksucker.. wasn’t dex tho
But you were hired under the pretense that you will serve.......and do what is required.........
actor here, not real deep in the industry yet as i've only been professional for a couple years now but from my experience, nearly everything he said is pretty spot on, particularly since he caught himself and distinguished people who want to be famous from actors (huge difference, trust me). i might even argue that when he doesn't nail it, it's because he didn't take it far enough. this is a weird fucking world to be in and when you step into a weirder one of filmmaking, storytelling, dreams, and fantasy, it's... i don't know. it's difficult to describe but it isn't pretty. it's like all those koi fish in a pond and when someone comes and spits on them, they go berserk for it. at least, that's how it looks from my side of the pond, idk.
my first role in LA came during the month i got here but to be honest, i don't get auditions very often. i'm not going to dare open the can of identity politics worms that comes with that in a youtube comment section, but there are certainly several reasons why that is. in my experience, getting booked isn't difficult, but getting in the door is :/
Like when Joey from friends would sleep with a producer.
thanks for your comment. very enticing to hear from your perspective
Hey man the music industry is the exact same way. LA is not a good place.
@@kevincorso1367 will you sell your soul if it means you are going to be an A list actor, just like all these other actors have done?
If you act for long enough you forget who you are. Identifying with the craft of being someone else is dangerous.
Same with pro wrestlers
do you know who you are?
Black swan
@@angeloburdo4573 Because most pro wrestlers create a character based on their personality, they just crank it up to 100.
I beg to differ. Acting is a path to wholeness and a way to embrace your shadow self that many other professions do not have. It is actually a gift. If you are doing it right, acting will make you more whole, create a better sense of unity with the world and awaken your awareness. But as Joe puts it here, most people are literally so stupid they have no idea what acting is other than external validation.
Imagine a relatable, likable, open-minded person who doesn’t live to control others not feeling at home in Hollywood.
keanu reeves
he's describing company culture, startups and 9-5's are the same.
Daniel Danny Dee Aguayo I remember that first job interview, it was exactly that. Are you even worthy of this job, snooty shit. It was even a shit job. Yet you're looking at me trying to decide if I'm worthy of your presence. Fuck that.
Any feeling of power in intoxicating. No matter what the level.
Hes also describing the annexation of certain aspects with societorial developmentalistic view points throughout vast ranges of imperical evidince amongst wide varieties of calculated tomahawk pooping mechanismaristicly.
everybodys fake, i work in a factory, everybodys just looking out for themselves in their own way
Daniel Danny Dee Aguayo SOMEBODY GETS IT
joe rogan expert psychologist
sdghv lvhgngv Give us your expert take then if you're critisizing
Joe ``Expert Psychologist`` Rogan
Im an expert silly bum.
JammyH93 since when is calling someone an expert at something criticizing them?
Joe Rogan: Pseudo Psychologist
Joe Rogan is the best thing on TH-cam.
Jake Paul >
LiveLife 101 you dude who said Joe Rogan are FUCKING insane
Nate Raul-Law your fucking insane. Get your tounge outta his ass
its probably h3h3
+1
as a mental health professional I absolutely confirm what Joe Rogan says, especialy about how people have to fit their personality, and then the whole subculture gets distorted. success driven by trauma creates a culture driven by trauma
100% this. I was in drama from middle thru high school, also on newspaper staff/writer. I had the perfect storm of circumstances as a child, plus serious health issues early on. I found I could ease the harsh treatment of adults and the bullying (straight up harassment & cruelty, beyond that of young antics) by making people laugh. I could get out of the daily afternoon beating if I could make them laugh. Then I learned to not show/show emotion by displacement or thinking of something that elicited desired reaction.
Fast forward to my early twenties, I took film and stage classes and auditioned for “Unsolved Mysteries”, but didn’t get the part, yet not bothered by the rejection, that’s part of it. Turns out after that I learned something else about me - I liked benefits, paychecks and time off paid. I didn’t have a job where I could take off at a moments notice to audition. The practicality that I once despised, imbued in me by my parents, who of course warned me of having something steady, chase your dreams on the side. Perhaps they knew, but didn’t explicitly state (okay, save for Dad, who once told me as a child Hollywood and it’s contents are “dirtbags”), of the darker underbelly and seeming prerequisite of being a power mad perv/pedophile applies to anyone who is in a position of helping you out, because as we know, talent doesn’t matter when you have puppets to satisfy your every vile desire.
I thank my Father in Heaven every day for revealing what I’ve heard to be true the day I thought I had an audition and subsequent arrangements for a local (where I lived in NC) venue owner and well connected business man answered the door to his mansion in only a wide open robe and a vibratory device attached to his privates, on and humming. This was back in the 90s, suffice to say my dream chasing ended there, at that precise moment.
Mr. Rogan, certainly you are not alone in your assessment of actors and their incessant need for attention and approval, and I laud you for saying all of this out loud, from Los Angeles at that. Maybe with all of these new platforms and ways to express creativity through film and music, folks like me who just want to do what they want to do and possibly eek out a living will someday soon have the chance because Hollywood one day won’t have control over talent via open secrets and various other offenses.
I’m still queer as a three dollar bill, but thankful I didn’t head out to Hollywood, as I’m sure I’d have only found Hollyweird.
Joe Rogan DESTROYS Hollywood
I mean it's hard not to see through the bull shit
Believe it or not some actors actually enjoy the craft of acting and the collaborative process that creates great storytelling.
I'm sure that's how it starts for many but once they get that fame and money, it goes to their heads and they'll do whatever to keep the gravy train rolling.
of course they do, that's a given
Michael P, nah... there's many who keep their artistic integrity and still do it for the love of doing it even when they get the fame and the money.
There certainly are actors who treat it like a job. Oddly enough, you don't hear any bad publicity on them
Thank you! Lol somebody finally said it! I'm kinda surprised that Joe is using a straw man on actors cuz he usually doesn't do that. As an actor myself, I can personally say that I ADORE the craft and I practice it just for fun even when I'm not in a play or short film. Granted though, I'm not famous or even make a living off of it (yet), but my goal really isn't to be famous. I just wanna do what I love for a job is all. He is correct about the audition process though, and there are actors who fit the description that he gave for sure. I'm just surprised he literally thinks ALL of them are like that.
Nicole Kidman hasn't accused him of coming on to her which is "interesting" considering she did a lot of his movies
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Doubt that would stop Harvey. So's Cara what's her face
Maybe coz she fukt him for a role, who knows?
Kidman herself it's heavily linked to the pedophilia rings.
She accepted cash to play the role of Tom Cruises wife after Days of Thunder. It's her highest grossing role.
Joe Rogan, Keannu Reeves and Joaquin Phoenix together. That'll be epic.
Morgan freeman too
I did stand up comedy for a couple of years back in the late 80's, I was pretty good, I even opened for Bill Hicks and Sam Kinison. When I quit to be a building contractor, all my comedian friends asked why. I told them the main reason was I was to secure as a person.
Still missing Bill Hicks a lot.
I have to respond, don't ask me how or why I started stand up here in RI, I was living with my first girlfriend, dead end part time job, college full time, insomnia, depressed, I hit an open mic one night, BOOM, something I was naturally good at with little or no effort, I went on to Boston, NYC, and LA...so here's my two cents worth: presently, Bill Burr is #1, I call Patrice O'Neal "elephant in the room" THE "perfect set", a seasoned professional at the top of his game...then, Greg Giraldo, underappreciated greatly, it's very hard to make me laugh, the following can: Jeselnik, Stanhope, Attell, Pinette, and sometimes Tosh.
@@singleman805
Bill was a good guy, I hung out with him a few times, he was never "off."
That makes no sense 😂
@@horaciocapanelli-soto4710 sure it does, though dude can't distinguish between "too" and "to" so I wouldn't let him build my house...in psychology, a human's number one fear is rejection and number one need is acceptance, the person on stage telling jokes perverts the need of acceptance to approval, the fear and insecurity of needing to be liked originates in self-doubt, self-loathing, toxic shame, etc. To truly understand this there is a program on Showtime called "I'm dying up here", it's all about a comedy club owner and the comedians that work for her looking to make it big in Hollywood. So when dude said he quit because he was secure, or okay with himself, he meant he no longer needs validation from others...a great example of this dynamic is actress Sally Field winning an oscar for best actress, she walks on stage to accept her award and cries, "you like me, you really like me!" Which reveals her fears but ironically how could we "like" her when she pretends to be other characters, we don't know the real her.🤔
Why can’t there be more people like Joe in this world? I wish I could sit down and have a great conversation with someone like this.
It’s called the casting couch for a reason
I'd rather be a nobody than get negative attention. I'm the opposite. I would choose NOT to be famous because of the humiliating shit that happened to me as a kid. Being in the spotlight is a bad thing for me.
I have a wierd feeling being the center of attention too. I just want people to feel good but when it's a group putting the spotlight on me it makes me feel like the attention is fake or impersonal. I'd rather people give me certain kinds of attention or praise 1 on 1 or something. Idk man it's hard to explain.
@@jonashjerpe7421 Your a really great guy, man! Uplift and Lead in Life! Exist 2 Inspire!
I sometimes feel like the nobody, the man in the iron mask, but then I get reminded of how it's a blessing in disguise. Sorry if I sound weird
Kids deal with trauma differently. Abuse can trigger your brain to compartmentalize. Some kids create pseudos, that's their brain protecting them so they can function like it's happening to someone else. You can see how both of those tools could help you become successful as an actor. You can box up all the foul stuff that happens in Hollywood, and creating and going into character is second nature. This is also probably why the victims don't come forward, it's been a normal part of their life. But sending in these personality types is like tying up a antelope in a lions cage. The sad thing is, when they got to the top- the fulfillment they need isn't there.
As an ex-Actor
with Post-drama school Trauma
And working professionally
I can fully resonate with this... Im so glad to be out of that hell
This is one of the realest commentaries that ive heard in regards to the "actor". Geez Joe your on with this one.
Spot on.
As a third-generation native Angelino, it used to always annoy me when I’d hear the stereotypical criticisms of LA/Hollywood people being fake and phony. I couldn’t understand it until I started to hit the nightlife scene. It was there when I realized that we natives for getting a bad rap because some of the most beautiful people from little towns outside the state would come to Hollywood and craft a new persona while leaving who they were and where they came from behind, in order to be a “star”. Most all of them did whatever they could to get even the slightest bit of recognition. Even if it came to playing the game of providing personal “pleasures” to those who might elevate their public profile. Both sides are used, but only one side benefited. It was rarely any of those who offered themselves to the wolves.
They were merely devoured, then discarded. In Hollywood, there’s plenty of meat provided....
This is the reason I like Joe Rogan. This is why I liked him in News Radio, and Fear Factor. He's a decent, honest and real human being. Not many people like Joe around these days.
Larry Kaye - there are, but you won’t typically find them in show business.
Sounds like every day life with every person not just Hollywood
ursus my thoughts exactly
Might say more about you than other people.
Couldn’t have said it better. TH-cam , tik tok. Anything with social media living that Hollywood lifestyle
Some points :
1. I’d be crazy if I was an actor and was paid the amount they are paid with the freedom that they have.
2. Paparazzi can turn you crazy.
3. My favorite actors are those that SEEM to be most grounded and have no effect from fame and fortune (Tom Hardy, Leonardo, Daniel Day Lewis & Joaquin Phoenix)
4. Actors/actresses are literally treated like gods and goddesses (only in US) and of course it’s eventually going to go to their head. Now more than ever.
to be fair, if you are employed, you pretty much have to be fake. Not everybody is working on their own creation.
Car windscreens care not who am I pretend to be..
San Hema only difference is that it’s clients you deal with when you work for your self. and not an entire chain or system
THANK YOU finally. Even at your work place most people are fake with each other
This is all a microcosm of what is going on in western-influenced societies. Cult of personality
Ur last name weird homie
Yes
Its about overpopulation and some people having a big chunk of cash. Money rules the world and the most desperate will do anything for it. Its disgusting but its always been this way.
The rich have the cult of self. Success breeds narcissism.
mantra joJo well put
i think narcissism is growing due to technology and how we are all becoming better connected and monitored constantly. Def could be wrong but it seems like everyone is so obsessed with themselves, especially in the film industry. you even see it in sports, these nerdy losers announcers who never played but they are famous for their "go to phrase." In that industry its all people promoting themselves and smelling their own farts
"mama there goes that man". I am much less likely to watch an NBA game when that idiot is commentating. "Three ball, corner pocket" is another one that for some reason no one ever calls him out on for being retarded
Michael Cervero The problem with measuring narcissism is that people never get help for it. It’s almost impossible to truly measure it.
You’re right but let’s be honest...most of us would be doing the exact same thing. It’s just a side effect of the constant attention which results in an enormous ego and the consequential desire to stay relevant all the time.
Michael Cervero no you’re not wrong
Yeah, you're so right on narcissism. There's a writer/psychologistl/diagnosed narcissist etc. man called Sam Vaknin, he has an own TH-cam channel, and he's been speaking about this topic a lot. Very interesting... Check out if you want.
I did some acting for 2 years in my 20s, wanted to explore the field and everyone I met on set and people I worked with were damaged in some way. I felt like an outsider being from a normal loving family and realised damn this is not my scene.
Would you minn elaborating a bit more? I've been dabbling in acting for the last few months since I got out of the Army. It's something I thought I wanted to do but I'm not sure if its for me anymore
What Joe Rogan says at minute 4:00 to 5:00 is probably the most profound, valid, and articulate thing I've ever heard in my life; and I can confirm it's validity...I'm an actor, comic, and screenwriter.
Joe Rogan just psychologically explained the reasons I feel the way I feel about career choices and now I want to reconsider my life
@ yup
Interesting insights.
I'm an actor, and this pretty much sums up most actors I know. A big pretend game that people put on so they can get in the spotlight. What Rogan says is true for sure.
I pride myself on just being me and not conforming to what that expectation is, but, I also know that by doing that, the fact of the matter is I won't work as much because of it.
Take for example the current political situation, and the racial issues and gun control and gender issues, lgbtq and all of that (the list goes on). If as an actor you don't agree with the majority of the industry on issues like these, especially if you're vocal about it, you're basically fucked. You won't work, it's that simple. The entertainment industry has a ton of people in positions of power that, although they may be good creatively at their job, they're ill-informed about a lot of issues. Views shouldn't play into how a person gets hired for the most part, but if you don't 'play the part' and conform to these people, and post on social media the same things they do, you won't work as much, or maybe at all. If someone is casting a project and they look you up and say, "well, he's talented but.. he's a conservative.." you're pretty much done. Maybe not every time, but 8 or 9/10 times, that's it.
I make a living solely as an actor. I've done some tv, indie films, and I do a ton of voice work. I still have a good amount of down time, but I don't think in my case it's due to my views, because I dont post my views on social media, ever. I just post my work, that's it. And I think it behooves everyone to do the same, unless you're genuinely donating time/ money to a good cause. Other than that, if you have differing views from most others in your field, best to not ruffle feathers. If you want food on your table, in other words, pretend to be the status quo. You've got to play that card if you want to survive.
The greatest role you will ever play is convincing the world you don't exist. You have to play someone else just to get in the door..
very interesting and I'm not surprised..I just recently moved LA for music but I've secretly wanted to act as well. I've been hesitant due to all the reasons of which you describe. I've always for some reason found actors and the psychology behind their personalities in pretty fascinating..but I wonder if there will ever come a time where it becomes about the art itself rather than this incessant loop of conformity and political ideation.
Never heard of you.
All this fucked up shit about the film industry is why I've vowed to devote myself to filmmaking. Can't get anywhere at this present moment since I'm busy moving to Nevada, but once I'm all set up, I'm gonna take initiative in my potential career.
+please unsubscribe
Why is all the fucked up shit in Hollywood making you want to devote yourself to working in the industry?
Bill Anderson oh shut up
Amazing insight into the neediness of actors. I can relate in a way.
I was very interested in " making it" as a musician. But when I got the attention, I realized these people who could get me there were scum.
I had a small taste as a musician. I hated it. The piles of coke they offered. The way they treated other acts.
I saw bands get signed, locked into contracts that actually killed their careers, rather than help them.
I could go on
But I'll just get depressed.
You have music acts who get chosen, in the pop music world, based on looks. Look at the MTV years
I walked away j watt axehammer
A similar thing happened to me with painting. I worked my way up to make all the connections that could get me to display my work. That was my goal, but I realized I despised all of them and their pretentious attitudes. It's like a "never meet your heroes" type of thing.
@@CoreyisBarackObama That's why you decided to be president instead?
@@playerone2629 Precisely
@@CoreyisBarackObama 😂👍
And now Robert Downey Jr. is coming on show next week.
4:07 he's absolutely right. I'm a boy who dreams to be a good actor. And some of the things he said are part of the things that I was dealing with such as self awareness, anti social personality, insecurity and childhood abuses.
My brother wants to be a actor bc he truly loves cinema. He's never been about fame or money. A true artist
to be fair, acting is a craft just as much as singing or visual art is. sure, most celebrities might be crazy, but there's still lots of people who get into acting because they genuinely appreciate the craft, not because they're insecure and want attention.
Explain the "craft" of acting. It's pretending for adults.
Why Can't pretending be a craft though? I think it's a little more than just "pretending".. you're using your empathy and your imagination.. I feel like those things are used in all types of crafts
@@burnpoet Daniel day Lewis, Jodie foster, Lupita nyongo, Matthew Maconaghey, and Robert De Niro. All talented actors and actresses who have perfected the craft of acting.
@@burnpoet you ever seen porn? Compare those actors to the ones in hollywood, and you’ll see it’s a craft that takes effort.
@@burnpoet it is sad how limited you are despite pretending to be an "adult"
All the dislikes are the actors he's talking about 🤣
Hahaha true!
Or the people who always dreamed of being famous - Lol
I lost it at 2:55 😂🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ it’s the way joey says that 😂
I’m an aspiring actor, and I 100% agree with this. I wasn’t brought up in it, my education was in filmmaking and classics. My interest in acting came from making short films and having an upbringing of going to the cinema regularly. I can’t stand a lot of actor groups, as they are all almost the same in their mannerisms and opinions And I really do not want to be famous unlike most. I like acting because I love film and filmmaking and for me the passions go hand in hand.
Happy new year! It’s never too old to do ANYTHING in life! Hope you still have that fire in you
not all actors love acting for these reasons. It is a drive for sure, but there is a lot more to acting if one digs. The problem is the fakes at every level of the business itself. It's a giant brothel. Joe is exactly right about the business side and about *most* of the people involved.
IN REALITY: most people don't know Joe Rogan from comedy, he was always the "fear factor" guy & then the UFC commentator guy & most people know Joey Diaz from Joe Rogan.
I mean joe was fortuante to get the News Radio gig which led to good jobs. Personally I think his UFC commenting & Podcast are his strong areas & his WEAKEST are acting & then comedy.
I'm getting into the Film Industry and this easily the most real thing i've ever seen
I find it crazy how some actors just “act” in front of a green screen and get millions and people praise them🧐 like they ain’t shit just normal humans
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I understand what you’re saying, but you’re being reductionist. Stories are the way we structure our lives, whether we are conscious of this or not. In their acting, actors embody not just examples of possible stories, but examples of templates for navigating life. Whether they do it well is another matter altogether. It’s important to recognize that people don’t praise actors because people are stupid, foolish, or whatnot. Rather, people do this because stories are a fundamental human need, and when an actor does it well, people are moved by it.
Well.. You could say the same for people that kicks a ball around. Thing is that this is a business and actors/sports people are a part of that business. They will do the Jobs that pays them most. Johnny depp created sparrow so that's why he gets like 50m for each movie.
Singers are a product of the label they are signed for and is part of the business. So think about, actors, musicans and sport people as product for a business it makes more sense. Like how much money doesn't musk put into his products, same thing
they don’t get paid for their work or talent necessarily, they get paid based on how much money whatever movie/show they generates, however that may be. similar to why athletes get paid so much
I think most people fall in love with the character, and then they associate the actor with the character in real life
When he said the main reason people become actors is because they feel discarded and like they dont have a place. That's true for me, it's not my main reason but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't trying to rub my dad's face in it when I get to where I wanna be.
Omg Joe hits the nail on the head 3:46 This is absolutely 100% correct.
I won't be surprised if the first place that burns on Judgement Day will be Hollywood
lazy Guitarist lmao that's what I'm saying. I'm just waiting for that fault line to send Hollywood down in the ocean 😂
Nah they blew up Cyberdyne systems it ain't going to happen
Astral I live 20 minutes from the SA fault :(
It's been burning often recently
@@scottvelez3154 lmao
This is one of the greatest explainations I have ever heard about Hollywood.
Man Joe is spot on on what makes people seek fame
I can't wait for Joey and Joe to be 75+ still doing content that appeals to everyone
I believe actors get stuck in characters and they forget about them selfs.
SergioXZero nah its the opposite. They cant get over themselves.
@@bwaters735 Both.
There is no themselves. They're wishy-washy like politicians. They'll lean which ever way the wind blows.
That is easy to do when you do not know who you really are in the first place
That last bit was on point!!
After hearing this, I wonder what Joe did to get on TV?
Probably let someone suck his cue ball dome
your mom
Violence originally
Who did Joey blow for his few movie rolls
5:11 dumbass
“Cause y'all grew up watchin' Rambo and Commando and Cobra and Schwarzenegger, coincidently is now the governor of a state in America. So where does the social responsibility fall for Hollywood? Na'mean that's why me I try tell us that art is a reflection of life. I wants the youth not to shoot and leave a song about it “ - random jamaican guy in a song intro i heard once lol
a human what song?
god I miss Brando. miss him everyday.
Brilliantly put, Joe. Absolutely flawless description of that "me too" mentality.
Can we all agree that the best part of Spider-Man 2 was when Joey Diaz had that small amount of screen time
Joe Rogan for President. Who else agree?
Jamie pull that "Hail to Chief" song up.
Then Joe gets the WH and goes, "Okay, that's what again?"
He's too good for that.
VP Joey diaz
Joe blows me in this video, amazing insight into a actors mind.
So I have a friend that says this, and I agree, “I’d rather be in LA with real fake people than in San Francisco with fake real people”.
San Fran has real people. You're friends knows these cities through youtube videos.
steve conn Wrong. As well, I have been many times to SF. I hate it.
I live in SF , 10/10 worst place on earth. I can’t wait to move back to
Wyoming. I wish I never left ..
@@steveconn I lived in the north bay for 5 years. SF can suck a fat one. OP's friend is accurate as hell
I’ve never been to SF but I live in LA and I’d have to say it’s shitty af lol I have no friends and everyone is so wrapped up in their own little ‘special’ world aka their phones. I’m the kind of person that smiles at ppl when walking by and ppl just don’t do that here. They always expect you to move out of their way cuz they sure as hell aren’t going to move for anyone else, they’re not polite, nice, or even cordial. It’s genuinely baffles me how inherently selfish people are out here and you can’t get away from it AT ALL literally even at home bc you have to live with multiple random room mates just to afford rent. What’s it like in SF? Just as bad? I’m out in LA for medication that’s a lot more accessible here but I’m almost done with it and I can’t fucking wait to move back to Ohio, I never realized how much I took it for granted!
I simultaneously LOVED being an actor (not 'Hollywood', mind you), but absolutely HATED all the phonies and narcissist pricks (both male and female).
There's WAY too much else in the world to involve oneself in. Acting is a subset of the greater good: STORYTELLING and education via storytelling.
For me, it *never* had to do with it being ABOUT me,
no. It was about making people laugh, cry, THINK, and learn something new. Walk away with something they'll remember. Treat people better, I'm hoping.
That way-of-thinking bankrupts my credits in 'Hollywood'. 💪😎🤟
Everyone forgets that all Hollywood acting celebrities started off as the weird, nerdy theatre kids in highschool
"A couple them opened their mouth" 😮
Comedy gold 🤣
What's revealing is that all the actresses that said no to that predator, weren't A listers or blockbuster movie film stars. They were mostly all in low profile movies or TV shows. Like, you either get in the mud or there's the street. Let that sink in. Simply revolving and awful.
That guest is the most sincere don't give a fuck Italian accent I've ever heard.
I’ve just noticed that Joey talks and moves his head identically to Tracy Morgan
That’s true for every gig. You put on a super clean cut act to gain and maintain your job of choice. Granted, the bar is so low to be an actor, so many applicants, and so much you can possibly gain.
Didn't your very best, most accomplished actress in Hollywood refer to Weinstein as "God"?
That doesn't reflect well on the entire industry.
I think this just describes most people tho, not just actors. Putting on an act and just blending in with the crowd so as not to cause any waves, that’s what humans do. Sure you have your few rebels who go against that but as a society we usually shun those people, or at least try to avoid them.
Acting is thus one of the most difficult nuts to crack and actors deserve some credit for making it through the war.
As someone who loves Shakespeare and acting, I can tell you that not all aspiring actors want to be famous. Some of us do it because we love the craft and the experience and fame means nothing to us. You’ll find a lot more people who are down to earth and genuine within the play and Shakespeare world than in Hollywood.
Yes I think that that’s most of the start of actors carriers but like any job with having job interview after job interview you try to be someone your not.
Joe and Joey are too real for Hollywood. Tell it like it is guys!
The problem is vulnerability and honesty is viewed as weak when it is actually strength which intimidates people and “they” want it to go away.
Joe Rogan is successful for good reasons. I like his podcast a lot
“I will never be around actors”
Years later he has Robert Downey Jr. 😂😂
Is he getting new roles?
Downey seems more grounded and decent than most. Never met him to be honest
He’s cool tho
Joe's final point in this clip applies to greater society. Doctors, lawyers, professors, priests.
The vast majority of all information is groupthink and lingo that carries the individual from one position to the next.
Just started watching Joe and I love it he definitely tells it like it is good for you!! Keep it real love it!!
Yea Joe tells it like it is but joey dose it better trust me
He really nailed at end there, kinda sad that some actors are just faces
It's a job soo better than sitting on a desk all day feeling as shitty as they do without all the money
Joe get Thomas sowell on before it’s too late .. he’s 90 years old genus
Wow! Great interview! So good to see/hear you both be so open, raw, unafraid to say it right out loud! This is what we need more of in this world! Stop the POFS from abusing/using/harming others!