I love how they summed up the mindset of kajukenbo. What drew me to kajukenbo, was that this was the only martial art that actively instructed me to stomp on heads and break bones in order to stop a threat to myself or others. Through the knuckle push-ups on tile, push-ups on my wrists, sit-ups until i couldn't move, a broken nose, an instructor with a shinai their to discipline you with said shinai when you stepped out of line... I have never seen a place that made me feel like i belonged more than that dojo. Now, some 26 years later, i miss that dojo.
I consider myself a 3rd generation Kajukenbo guy & a 1st generation Hawaiian Kempo guy. Going back nearly 4 decades ago when I started with John what I was learning was introduced to me as Kajukenbo and within a very short time it was Kempo and then Hawaiian Kempo as John came to a final conclusion of what more accurately reflects what we are doing while still paying respect to our Hawaiian roots. Between these early years and also spending very special and impressionable times with Professor Walter L. Godin, my roots have & will always go back to Kajukenbo and I will always be thankful for the roll that those pioneers played in bringing this discipline and mindset to me and our students. I feel very fortunate & proud to have been a part of those early years and then to also be, again, fortunate to witness & play a part in the evolution of our system & methodologies that bring us to today and our future. I'm happy to see this discussion here with "old" and "young" blood who are all giving their due credit to Kajukenbo and what it meant & means to us.
37:55 , Kata, each move (or most moves) in the Kata relate to a specific self defense move, example end of Sandan Kata (Shotokai/ Kenkojuko style/ Shotokan variation) , one is supposed to lean head lock/ bear hug escape as an example, so one must also train the sections of the Kata with a Partner to really understand them. Godan Kata; the uppercut sequence can be a uppercut or a Seio Nage Takedown , the open palm thrust to the groin is a Seio Nage (hip toss/shoulder throw) counter by reaching under and pulling them down ..... etc ect etc
Huge respects to these gentlemen. My teacher loved Kajukenbo. He did some training with Joe Halbuna, and Kalaii Griffin and they heavily influenced his Kempo. He often showed “Kaju love” Aloha and Mahalo!
Pit Master's take on what growing up in Hawaii is spot on. Kids got into scraps on a daily basis. And many were what we called "punks". They lived to bully others, especially if they were haole.
This is a great interview. My instructor did the same thing as John, he took out the katas. Added Muay thai. We learned the basic Emperado counters. Punch. Grab, knife, club, some Alphabet, then I went and studied bjj, mma, and little wrestling for 4 yrs. My Instructor passed this summer. Rip Sigung Rob Grier. I was worried were I/we fit in with the rest of the Kajukenbo universe. My system now is more like John’s. Ohana!
I'm a shotokan guy myself but I feel like kajukenbo is the most similar to what war period taijutsu probably looked like. Probably really similar to what og karate looked like too.
That's pretty cool. There's a few Kajukenbo guys I know that cross train in Shodokan and feel that there's a lot of applications to be used. Thanks for checking out the show!
@@socialgelo7719 I should also say, when I train in Japan, I often run into the same problem trying to explain Kenpo. Obviously, we have many similar techniques in kata, though our kata look vastly different. I ultimately explain that it is a system of fighting that focuses on Bunkai (application of fighting). Honestly, the application of forms in Kajukenbo or Kenpo in general, in my opinion, is vastly more sophisticated than what I am seeing in many traditional Karate schools either in Okinawa or Japan. This of course does not necessarily mean more effective, but the founders of our respective systems have really looked at application versus form.
The Mike Shaw I know is Pro Ronnie Isaguirres Student in San Diego. But there very well might be two Mike's. I got a pretty cool set of MMA Kajukenbo Pride Shorts from Philip Dang once. Thanks for checking out the show.
Same Mike Shaw. Saw him on Prof Ronnie's FB friend list..maybe I'm mistaken of him being Phil's student because I met Mike through KJKB Ohana Gatherings.
@@unclebraddah okay yeah. It's definitely my mentor Mike Shaw. I'm one of Ronnie Isaguirres black belts. Mike was a brown belt when I started. We went at it the first day I started and have been Ohana ever since 😆 🤣
Yeah. Nothings worse than thinking the fight is over in the 3rd round and finding out the judges want an overtime match and you're gassed. Thanks for watching the show brotha 🙏🏾
if use use Kata and Pop Lockin in the same sentence, you're against Kata (LOL) ... when I trained our classes were 1 hour 45 minutes long, some 2 hours
Lots of good points made here in the video podcast. I’m so glad to have started Kajukenbo in the late 80’s into the entire decade of the 90s. I still have the disfigured knuckles from the hardcore training. My teacher taught us how to hurt our attackers with no remorse. It worked. When I came back to visit my instructor recently. He is teaching a pussy factory and I asked him what the heck happened here? Basically this nonsense today pays the bills.
I love how they summed up the mindset of kajukenbo.
What drew me to kajukenbo, was that this was the only martial art that actively instructed me to stomp on heads and break bones in order to stop a threat to myself or others. Through the knuckle push-ups on tile, push-ups on my wrists, sit-ups until i couldn't move, a broken nose, an instructor with a shinai their to discipline you with said shinai when you stepped out of line... I have never seen a place that made me feel like i belonged more than that dojo. Now, some 26 years later, i miss that dojo.
That's awesome! Sounds like some nice old school training. Thanks for checking out the show and sharing your thoughts.
I consider myself a 3rd generation Kajukenbo guy & a 1st generation Hawaiian Kempo guy.
Going back nearly 4 decades ago when I started with John what I was learning was introduced to me as Kajukenbo and within a very short time it was Kempo and then Hawaiian Kempo as John came to a final conclusion of what more accurately reflects what we are doing while still paying respect to our Hawaiian roots.
Between these early years and also spending very special and impressionable times with Professor Walter L. Godin, my roots have & will always go back to Kajukenbo and I will always be thankful for the roll that those pioneers played in bringing this discipline and mindset to me and our students.
I feel very fortunate & proud to have been a part of those early years and then to also be, again, fortunate to witness & play a part in the evolution of our system & methodologies that bring us to today and our future. I'm happy to see this discussion here with "old" and "young" blood who are all giving their due credit to Kajukenbo and what it meant & means to us.
That's awesome brotha! Thanks for checking it out and sharing your journey 👊
Thank you
No problem. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
37:55 , Kata, each move (or most moves) in the Kata relate to a specific self defense move, example end of Sandan Kata (Shotokai/ Kenkojuko style/ Shotokan variation) , one is supposed to lean head lock/ bear hug escape as an example, so one must also train the sections of the Kata with a Partner to really understand them. Godan Kata; the uppercut sequence can be a uppercut or a Seio Nage Takedown , the open palm thrust to the groin is a Seio Nage (hip toss/shoulder throw) counter by reaching under and pulling them down ..... etc ect etc
Awesome interview (Talking Story). Great people to represent Kajukenpo and Hawaiian Kempo !!!
Thanks brotha 🙏🏾💯 I'm glad you enjoyed it 💯
Super cool to see my instructor/father, Ron Esteller, on the podcast with the legendary Pit Master! Great discussion!
Thanks brotha 🙏🏾I'm glad you enjoyed it!
thank you🙏
Thank you for coming on and sharing your stories! Always a good time brotha 🙏🏾💯
Huge respects to these gentlemen. My teacher loved Kajukenbo. He did some training with Joe Halbuna, and Kalaii Griffin and they heavily influenced his Kempo. He often showed “Kaju love”
Aloha and Mahalo!
Pit Master's take on what growing up in Hawaii is spot on. Kids got into scraps on a daily basis. And many were what we called "punks". They lived to bully others, especially if they were haole.
This is a great interview. My instructor did the same thing as John, he took out the katas. Added Muay thai. We learned the basic Emperado counters. Punch. Grab, knife, club, some Alphabet, then I went and studied bjj, mma, and little wrestling for 4 yrs. My
Instructor passed this summer. Rip Sigung Rob Grier. I was worried were I/we fit in with the rest of the Kajukenbo universe. My system now is more like John’s. Ohana!
That's awesome. Thanks for checking out the interview.
I'm a shotokan guy myself but I feel like kajukenbo is the most similar to what war period taijutsu probably looked like. Probably really similar to what og karate looked like too.
That's pretty cool. There's a few Kajukenbo guys I know that cross train in Shodokan and feel that there's a lot of applications to be used. Thanks for checking out the show!
My lineage,Sijo , Tony Lasit, Dan Baker, Jay Vera, me. Great art!!
Awesome Ohana! Thanks for checking out the show brotha!
Awesome discussion with interesting perspectives….thanks for putting this together 👊🏾!
My pleasure!
I started with Greg Harper after fight quest. 15 yrs strong. Visalia Ca
That's awesome! You must be near Ron Esteller and the bay area Ohana! I visited them last December. Thanks for checking out the show!
@@socialgelo7719 I'm about 4 hours away from gm estellar
I did attend a small seminar that gm estellar a KSDI event
@@tommartin1223 It's a small Kajukenbo world. That's awesome.
Superb discussion🙏 Kajukenbo looks fantastic, I train Japanese Goshin ryu jiu jitsu in England
That's awesome! Thanks for checking out the show and all the best with your training brotha 💪 👊
General Patton said the quote fatigue makes cowards of us all
That's who it was. I always forget who said that. I'll have to make a note of it this time around. Thanks brotha 🙏🏾
Kempo with an M! I love it
Thanks for checking out the show!
Fantastic. I train in Kenpo, this was really interesting and I learned a lot about your system.
Awesome! Thanks for checking it out brotha! 👊
@@socialgelo7719 I should also say, when I train in Japan, I often run into the same problem trying to explain Kenpo. Obviously, we have many similar techniques in kata, though our kata look vastly different. I ultimately explain that it is a system of fighting that focuses on Bunkai (application of fighting). Honestly, the application of forms in Kajukenbo or Kenpo in general, in my opinion, is vastly more sophisticated than what I am seeing in many traditional Karate schools either in Okinawa or Japan. This of course does not necessarily mean more effective, but the founders of our respective systems have really looked at application versus form.
Great episode and panel. It was interesting to hear everyone's opinion and experience.
Thanks for watching! I learned a lot on this one myself.
Good stuff, enjoyed it.
Thanks for checking it out brotha
Would be cool if you interview Greg Harper emperados bodyguard
That would be cool. If you got his contact info send him my way.
thesocialgelo@gmail.com
I agree
Mike Shaw...good guy. Student of Prof. Phil Dang.
The Mike Shaw I know is Pro Ronnie Isaguirres Student in San Diego. But there very well might be two Mike's.
I got a pretty cool set of MMA Kajukenbo Pride Shorts from Philip Dang once.
Thanks for checking out the show.
Same Mike Shaw. Saw him on Prof Ronnie's FB friend list..maybe I'm mistaken of him being Phil's student because I met Mike through KJKB Ohana Gatherings.
@@unclebraddah okay yeah. It's definitely my mentor Mike Shaw. I'm one of Ronnie Isaguirres black belts. Mike was a brown belt when I started. We went at it the first day I started and have been Ohana ever since 😆 🤣
Great episode!
I'm glad you enjoyed it brotha 🙏🏾
Great Talk
Thanks for checking it out
I was wondering...... just how many IS a brazilian?
That's a good one 😆 🤣
Yeap condition it's King plus real training, agree a 100%
Yeah. Nothings worse than thinking the fight is over in the 3rd round and finding out the judges want an overtime match and you're gassed. Thanks for watching the show brotha 🙏🏾
if use use Kata and Pop Lockin in the same sentence, you're against Kata (LOL) ... when I trained our classes were 1 hour 45 minutes long, some 2 hours
Kempo 5.0 and Vsk Juitsu
Thanks for checking out the show !
Lots of good points made here in the video podcast. I’m so glad to have started Kajukenbo in the late 80’s into the entire decade of the 90s. I still have the disfigured knuckles from the hardcore training. My teacher taught us how to hurt our attackers with no remorse. It worked.
When I came back to visit my instructor recently. He is teaching a pussy factory and I asked him what the heck happened here?
Basically this nonsense today pays the bills.
Definitely a big difference between the way things were taught back then to now. Thanks for checking out the show.
I enjoyed this entire podcast. New sub here.
And your humble ……
I try. Thanks for checking out the show brotha 🙏🏾
Kajukenbo is good but pitmaster is right kata makes it shit and nobody likes kata and karate anymore hawiian mma
Kata seems to be a big downside for a lot of modern martial artists. Thanks for checking out the show.