War Elephants are my favorite unit in AOE 2! Elephants became my favorite animal ever since I played the original version of AOE 1 back in the day. I just like the idea of sending a massive army of chunky units to overwhelm the enemy! Since then, I love playing this game as any civ that has access to Elephants. 🐘
Obvious results, but what I found most surprising is the amount of damage a mangudai can deal. An elephant dead before it reached melee, with 0 bonuses. Wow, powerful unit!
@@suyash5608, well, if we take it as an antecedent, we can remember Megas Alexander with their flaming pigs to fighr elephants of India according to some historical narrations.
God I love my elephantos, sadly they're pretty much too expensive to build in evenly matched games. :( On the other hand if I'm ahead in any game hells yeah I'm gonna build an elephanto/ trash bow army
You know what , a tower defense style game mode would be fun , you try to defend your castle against wave of enemies , the final wave would be 200 elite war elephant .
@@Epilogue_04 Most of them are mods though , have to download them. One of the " tower defense" custom game only let you build tower along the way like traditional tower defense mode instead of let you bring your army to the path of the horde , what they need is official game mode :/
I thought kamayuks would perform at least the double efficiency as they did. War elephants literally trampled them!! And elephant archers, very impressive!! Meat shields indeed!
Captain:Men, since we're on foot...and we're facing elephants... we're pretty much dead...but I have to say this before we're all dead... Soldier: What's that, Chief? Captain: Don't ever be the last one standing, otherwise these elephants will turn you into a human football and kick you around as if they're playing a football match.....
i think it woul be far more interresting if you also made one where the ressources where equal. Its just a more important topic than popspace efficiancy - else its a nice compact concept
These videos would be a lot better if the respective enemy unit would be displayed as well... And a quick (excel) stat/table at the end showing the victorious unit and the remaining members would also be helpful
Pikeman is good for against elephant but have to be 2-1 per unit because elephant uses a lot of resources to build. In battle they will lose for the long term
...What was Ensamble studios thinking Keeping this unit as strong as it is.. and then allowing it to be spawned at any stable instead of just castles. The unit is just way too powerful.
Elite skirmishers failed against war elephants. Elite skirmisher: It's totally fine, since I'm designed to against archers. Imperial camel struggled to take out even a single war elephant. Also imperial camel: Why am I still here suffering?
Shizuo Heiwajima depends on how you look at it, the Persians with their strong economy can sustain it. What I don’t like about using them is their speed. Makes it easy to get wrecked by micro
In the same quantitie war elephant Will be win any battle In competition are so fucking expensive an get so much counters But if a good player could get inside 20 elephants in a base, they will destroy all
I was expecting to see a completely new visual for war elephant. Something like Aom version. It is simply elephant archer without the archer...kind of bugs me.
3000 food 1125 gold ( research cost apart) Can be easily killed with 1/10 of cost with helbs or pike No persian online player uses this Again too weak to monks
@@jonkoxl2069 yeah I meant all at once, it would be easy to calculate once at a time : how much damage can a karambit cause before being killed by the elephant and divide 600 by that.
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So we are talking about the elephant in the room.
The elephant in the room can be solved with 15 monks.
No war elephants were harmed during the making of this video
But many people were, which is fine.
some definitely were harmed...
I counted at least 25 killed
@@sanmartinnomurio just a flesh wound
They defeated by kamayuk
I remember, before 15 years and more, when we played at net caffe, first rule was, NO PERSIANS PICK! :)
exactly the same with us :D back then none of us knew that elephants could be easily countered by pikemen which are a lot cheaper to produce
Would have been more interesting to get both sides on equal ressources. The way it is set up here isn’t very interesting, it was already obvious.
I promise I’ll make equal resources. It’s just that people asked for equal numbers first, but I’m listening to the requests of equal resources.
@@MikeEmpires Would also be cool to display KD ratio or even HP points lost/remaining. Hard to judge whats going on in that ruck
Thanks for the suggestion, Walt. I’ll add that.
Equal numbers is relevant when you're at pop cap.
@@DrewMiller1 indeed, but then so could be micro and replacement rate (unit creation speed), not all scenario tests are created equally lol
Missionary is also a unique unit why not give them a chance?
true
Missionaries arent very fast at converting so they can convert 2-3 units at max until they are killed
They can win battles
This setup doesn't allow micro. You can't use monks or missionaries without micro
@@GoldenRoyal5 this would be a better match than imperial skirmishers or genitours or most units XD
War Elephants are my favorite unit in AOE 2! Elephants became my favorite animal ever since I played the original version of AOE 1 back in the day. I just like the idea of sending a massive army of chunky units to overwhelm the enemy! Since then, I love playing this game as any civ that has access to Elephants. 🐘
Untill the enemy mass monks
Until you hear those wololos or pointy boars appearing in the horizon
you needed like 5 villagers to kill an elephant in old AoE
@@somestuff9143 but not a military one - just the ones for food were that weak
The only downside for civs was the base defenses (no fortified walls)
SPOILER! War Elephants win every fight
in this setup yes, in real situations not so much
Even with greater equal numbers resoults will be different, especially in case of Mamelukes, Genoese and Kamayuks.
@@Bzhydack you could even win from war elephants with less mamelukes with average micro lol
@@jonkoxl2069 yep, but we are not talking about micro.
@@Bzhydack haha everytime i see a comment that war elephants are op and win everything i just have to mention microed mamelukes
1 Flaming Camels
2 Kamayuk
3 Mameluke
4 Genove Crossbowman
5 The Others
Flaming Camels and Kamayuks killed the same amount of Elephants (5) so they should share first place
I was counting how many unique units were able to kill just one elephant.
11:51 he cut it off before the konniks could dismount. For all we know, the 2 dismounted konniks could have taken on the army of war elephants.
The game most likely determined that there were no units alife anymore
Elephant lose DQ
Obvious results, but what I found most surprising is the amount of damage a mangudai can deal. An elephant dead before it reached melee, with 0 bonuses. Wow, powerful unit!
In my opinion mamelukes are much more impressive
@@yahyagannour8486 I mean, they have a huge anticavalry bonus, no wonder they perform better. Mangudai have none, it is terrible, but surprising
@@omarescalante3114 thanks to Mongols faster cav archers fire rate😂
Elephant falls under siege bonus I think
That's probably the best efficiency the flaming camels had during these whole series
Historically accurate. 11
@@suyash5608, well, if we take it as an antecedent, we can remember Megas Alexander with their flaming pigs to fighr elephants of India according to some historical narrations.
21 Persian elepthantos were slain during this video.
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Japan: Our Samurai's bonus against unique units makes us unstoppable!
Iran: Hold my War Elephants.
Aztecs:Hold my Jaguar
@@umutakdemir442 Mexico*
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz Aztecs, thats the culture not the country
@@francoabad4911
Persians, that's the culture not IRAN.
Japanese, that's the culture not JAPAN.
Aztecs, that's the culture not MEXICO.
No shit
Byzantines: Hold my Cataphrekts
Jumbo wants a peanut, the enemy have stolen it. Jumbo gets angry.
Love the dedication you're putting forth with these videos! Looking forward to the sequel series after the primary series is complete.
Thanks, man. I’m listening to requests. I’ll do equal resources next.
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You forgot one unique unit, the spanish missionary. It is also probably the only unique unit that stand a chance against these elephants ^_^
If it wasn't for the Perssian +2 vs archers, I think that Longbows had a chance :)
I doubt it, they didn't even kill one elephant 😂
@@manuam98 But that only affects their knights
@@manuam98 r/wooosh
@@himanshubaweja5243 don't wooosh me
Chu Ko Nus, Camel Archers and Mangudais were the only archers able to take down at least one. Genoese Crossbowmen took down 2.
Gimme a real challenge
*Elite Turtle Ship has entered the chat*
Aztec monk has enter to the chat
Bring in the monks!
Irak camel
Elite Genitour: Am I a joke to you?
Elite War Elephant: Yes.
One of my favorite units alongside the mameluke and the janissary!
i was surprised how quick mameluke killed 1
So you are interested in middle east history, right?😂
God I love my elephantos, sadly they're pretty much too expensive to build in evenly matched games. :(
On the other hand if I'm ahead in any game hells yeah I'm gonna build an elephanto/ trash bow army
Total domination, no one even a came close
You know what , a tower defense style game mode would be fun , you try to defend your castle against wave of enemies , the final wave would be 200 elite war elephant .
There already exist tower defense games on aoe, have existed for a very long time
That would be Plants vs. Zombies.
Try CBA scenarios. th-cam.com/video/7dEm2fQ7WWU/w-d-xo.html
Millenials discover aoe custom games
@@Epilogue_04 Most of them are mods though , have to download them. One of the " tower defense" custom game only let you build tower along the way like traditional tower defense mode instead of let you bring your army to the path of the horde , what they need is official game mode :/
this is like puting up 15 ants to fight 15 humans MAKE EQUAL RECOUCES
I thought kamayuks would perform at least the double efficiency as they did. War elephants literally trampled them!! And elephant archers, very impressive!! Meat shields indeed!
War elephant cost: 200 food 75 gold vs mangudai 55 wood 65 gold, this is a big factor against the war elephant
everyone gangsta until halbedeir comes to the arena
I expected more from Ballista elephant. But disappointed. Great video.
Captain:Men, since we're on foot...and we're facing elephants... we're pretty much dead...but I have to say this before we're all dead...
Soldier: What's that, Chief?
Captain: Don't ever be the last one standing, otherwise these elephants will turn you into a human football and kick you around as if they're playing a football match.....
The elite teutonic knights only melee weakness: Trample damage
And bonus damage.
Cataphracts smash the hell out of knights
and leitis
Also units that ignore armor, like the Leitis.
Interesting to see gbetos deal so much damage to elephants (they were elephant hunters before they were turned into warriors)
LOL, some of them couldn't even kill the first one!
11:20 Not even 200 skirm will win against the elephants
lol 200 skims can easily beat elephants
but elephants cant win against halbedeirs tho
11:55, we can see how kipchaks were nurfed comparing them with mangudais.
i think it woul be far more interresting if you also made one where the ressources where equal. Its just a more important topic than popspace efficiancy - else its a nice compact concept
Suggestion for next videos. Put timestamps for units, PLS
So, in order of appearance:
Cho ku nu - 1
Throwing Axemen - 1
Mangudai - 1
Mameluke - 3 almost 4
Jennies - 1
Conqs - 1
Kamayuk - 5
Elephant archer - 1
Genoese crossbowman - 2
Camel archer - 1
Gbeto - 1
Arambai - 1
Ballista ele - 1
Rattan Archer - 1
Konnik - 15
No body can't the beat war elephant.
These videos would be a lot better if the respective enemy unit would be displayed as well... And a quick (excel) stat/table at the end showing the victorious unit and the remaining members would also be helpful
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll do that. I always click on every enemy unit, though.
I think you should have used same batch of elephants over and over 111
Still they would've won
Persian War Elephant: I fear no man, but that thing (halberdiar) it scares me
Kamayuk is even better than halberdier but still lost
War Elephant: We are unstoppable.
Flaming Camel: No Not really.
War Elephants: Fire! They wield fire! Run for your lives.
I suggest that you should put the same amount of resources, not the same amount of number, therefore it would be a much more fair fight.
The skirmishers did no damage lol, they were only able to massage one of them a bit
POV: you just graduated from kerambit school, time for your first mission, very exciting
That's why the matchups should be done in equal or similar resources
Pikeman is good for against elephant but have to be 2-1 per unit because elephant uses a lot of resources to build. In battle they will lose for the long term
Would you consider adding Unique Water Units to this?
😮😮😮 olha para esses Kamayuks ai? 😮😮😮 o resultado deles foi surpreendente.
Go Elephants VS Monks
Equal papulation space should be good way to know which one is better (and also the resources used for them )
It's over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...What was Ensamble studios thinking Keeping this unit as strong as it is.. and then allowing it to be spawned at any stable instead of just castles. The unit is just way too powerful.
just feedback, you probably should put two sides equally depend on the same of cost
Only a few War Elephants die and then not a single unique units can’t able to defeat all of them.
Hey man good day, thanks for this video are really good
No one is messing with war elephnant hurah!
No Elephats were killed in making this video
They are so OP, win all
They don't stand a chance against pikes or halbs lol
mamelukes took down the first elephant before the first mameluke died.. mameluke + micro will win from elite war elephants
Jonko XL I mean they are pretty slow so you can micro against them easily lol.
War elephants alone are enough to make me always play as the Persians 😂
Elite skirmishers failed against war elephants.
Elite skirmisher:
It's totally fine, since I'm designed to against archers.
Imperial camel struggled to take out even a single war elephant.
Also imperial camel:
Why am I still here suffering?
My favourite war elephants
I miss hit and run tactics on the Mameluks, they're the only ones that can win
War elephants after seeing the Kamayuks
Macedonian invasion flashbacks
Part of the issue is the elephants are worth way more resources per pop-cap
Shizuo Heiwajima depends on how you look at it, the Persians with their strong economy can sustain it. What I don’t like about using them is their speed. Makes it easy to get wrecked by micro
I cant believe it , the elephants lost :(
In your dreams bois
Siege camel=6; Kamayuk=5; Mameluke=3; basically every ranged unit except genitour, organ gun and skirmisher=1
Even boyars can't survive the fight
THE ONLY WAY to stop them refers to Empire Strikes Back.
In the same quantitie war elephant Will be win any battle
In competition are so fucking expensive an get so much counters
But if a good player could get inside 20 elephants in a base, they will destroy all
War elephants have the byzantines unique tech for free ^^
War elephant has it first, byzantines has the unique later( unique tech was a later patch many years ago)
@@Leonykf I mean war elephants do trample dmg by default
It makes sense that war elephant is the strongest unit because its the most expensive
Wow not even one elephant died against the imperial camels
확실히 에이지 오브 엠파이어 2 최강의 유닛은 페르시아의 코끼리 하지만 단점이 많이서 실전에서는 못쓰는 유닛
if u deal with number of 80+
500 halbediers v 250 elite war elephants
10:06 brother vs brother
I don't think any unique unit aside from missionaries can beat it
the only thing even had a chance were Mamelukes
I'm surprised the the Leites and Kamayuk didn't perform better, do the Kamayuk's not get anti calvary bonus agaisnt elephants?
They do. But they idea is that kamayuk will had more units. Try 20 w fants vs 40 kamayuk and see.
15 War Elephant VS 25 Halberdier
The elephants win, but won't be pretty
War elephants are insane
Neat bro
No Missionary REEEEEEEEEE
Hey Mike, can you redo this one? Resources
I was expecting to see a completely new visual for war elephant. Something like Aom version. It is simply elephant archer without the archer...kind of bugs me.
tldw; did they win?
can the woad raiders beat anyone except huskarls and karambit warriors
How about a group of missionaries?
ELITE WAR ELEPHANT vs priests
Who can defeat the army of war elephants
*Ababil bird*
3000 food 1125 gold ( research cost apart)
Can be easily killed with 1/10 of cost with helbs or pike
No persian online player uses this
Again too weak to monks
Oh i do sometimes, persian eles rox
They are situational. If your enemy is full cav you can do 10 on a forward castle and raze his TCs
Trash crossbow man backing elephants and a bit micro.i think you can handle pikeman0
Could we have the ranged units microed to shoot, run, shoot... as they would in a real game?
In a game no body will play a hit and run with war elephant they just destroy all your building 😉😂
Pleasw make keshik video and focus on how much gold they make on every units
persians vs monks and halbardiers. thats the thing.
If I have 15 monks, I probably win when against war elephant army.
what with war elephants vs spanish missionaries??
Persians be like...Elephants are OP.....
Well maybe not
Monks and halberdiers are hard counters
There. Is. No. Chance.
How many karambits do you need to kill one war elephant ?
if you use one at a time probably fewer than if you would use all at once (trample damage)
@@jonkoxl2069 yeah I meant all at once, it would be easy to calculate once at a time : how much damage can a karambit cause before being killed by the elephant and divide 600 by that.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine guestimate probably need 50 or so
Maybe 20-30 karambits