I'm an F-15 pilot. I'm certain he g-loc'd when he pulled in to re-enter the race. Greying out is one thing that makes you more susceptible to completely g-locing, so pilots that grey out will ease up on the stick, and then yank again, making that 'tunnel' close much faster. F-16s have a system now called AUTO GCAS that takes over for incapacitated pilots and avoids ground collisions because g-loc deaths were a systemic thing with them.
This has to be one of the most respectful and personable account of a horrific crash. This should be the standard by which other's try to emulate. Tragic situation and such professionalism in the account. Well done sir.
These pilots are simply playing a game of Russian Roulette. A game of chance we're the margins for error is far closer than the humans ability to handle. No matter how impressive the pilots record is. I wouldn't be watching these races anywhere close to the circuit.
@@quickstopUKI would assume that since they are racing, they fly at the limit of what their bodies can handle in terms of forces. The course does not look that big, that they can take the turns comfortably at max airplane speed.
Yes older people resonate better with low frequency vibrations then young. Nowadays the attraction density frequency is twice higher 13 Hertz and is about to reverse! Do your consciousness math feel the difference of not stay on ground
I'm a flight instructor and apparently, it could be the case he pulled too hard on the stick, having a high G force getting him dismayed for some seconds... RIP ! Pilot !
Aaron most likely G locked when he tried re engaging in the race. The course is set up so most racers will not surpass 5 gs , the hard turn back to left may have caused G lock
Classic GLOC. Right at 2:40 you can see where he blacks out, and relaxes the pull on the stick. He pulled so hard trying to get back on course that he ripped an aileron off. It was hard to watch live. I spoke with Aaron on Thursday, we bs'd for a bit about knives, and shooting, and the stupid smoke from the wild fires....... RIP Friend. May we all be a lucky as you, going out doing what we love.
Since there is no video of Aaron in the cockpit where do you " see " him black out and I did not notice any parts come off the plane. If parts had come off the plane in said " hard " maneuver other reports of the crash would have mentioned that
@@jamesadams893 watch as he pulls back. The the pull relaxes, and the plane never changes pitch angle and drifts into the ground. Aviators know this as a classic sign of gloc (g force induced loss of consciousness). From the flight line, it was like 4 miles out, but all the videos confirm exactly how we all saw it live. It was a sad and somber end to the only good day of racing we had in 2022. We all lost a friend and great man that day. We will never forget.
@@gsrsin oh boy. Debated not wasting my time on this but….. Is attitude not a combination of pitch, roll, and yaw? You are trying to split hairs with your comment. But I’ll entertain it. Google has some great resources for you to brush up on your terminology. Gday.
The amount of disrespectful and downright gross comments here saddens me. I'm sorry you're getting these comments. Rest in Peace to Aaron Hogue. He died doing what he loved.
that said, this is social media. if any story is put on social media, regardless of its content, you are gonna have positive and negative comments. its just the way the world is.
That looks like classic g-LOC. He probably had mild g-LOC when making the initial LEFT turn, and then bailed out (RIGHT) and up. Upon gaining consciousness and going away from the course, he then decided to get back onto to course as quickly as possible with a high-g LEFT turn, which caused the crash. My gf is a retired naval aviator so I ask her a lot of questions on flying. It is very complex and demanding to fly.
Man people commenting on what's the point of these races? Really? It's called freedom! People love flying and speed and spending time watching people chasing their dreams. Love for something that moves your soul. What do you do that moves you? Oh by the way up to 50000 people die every year in car crashes. Should we stop driving?
I was raised close by the stead air base watched many races.. from hill sides .. during my time growing up there has been quite a few crashes . Some right in front of the stands , one time a plane crashed into house in upper stead..every time they threaten to end the the races.. all the crashes over the years were tragedies and all had spouses that were watching..but it is a very dangerous sport and all of the pilots who died new it.. so all you can do is salute them and say goodbye..
I lived in upper Stead during the late 70's and that's where I fell in love of the sport. I live on Mt Whitney. I never heard about the plane crash in the residential part though,would you remember the year?
So many people in the comments hating on this. The pilot was doing what he loves and something went wrong. It happens in every aspect of life. Things go wrong and sometimes someone doesn’t get to walk away from it. But to say he’s too old, or they had it coming is ridiculous. You put yourself at risk of death every time you step outside your house. We all die but not all of us die doing what we love. I’m sure every single person in the race knows what could happen. Same with their family and friends. I’d also like to ad the fact that racing planes isn’t some brand new concept either…
Professional fighter pilots don’t even play this game! And they have tons of more experience in the seat! Constant turning means sustained g load! Not good.
I was there the day before this crash, but have seen 8 crashes over the years including the Farrells Ice Cream Parlor crash in Sacramento, the Galloping Ghost, Gary Levitz P-51, and Ralph Twombly's T-6 which just missed my son and I parked out past the North end of the runway. Each one takes a toll as you know someone just lost their life. Every time I go to an airshow I mentally prepare myself for it.
@mtlassen1992 It is an unforgiving sport. Alway has been. But aviation lovers just want to go and watch planes fly. Other stupid commentators simply don't have a clue.
Just An OBSERVATION from a Red Bull Air Race two Time World Championship Team: Aaron Hogue had a fast clear lower altitude line that was potentially un-obstructed by air traffic. He was TOO LOW the whole time (but above 50 ft minimum) to allow for margin of error and correction... He started CHANGING ALTITIUDE TOO MUCH; DIFFERENT FROM HIS PREVIOUS RACE... In this Final Race trying to keep the "low lane" he actually lost overall speed by increasing overall distance going up and down. 00:45 Intentionally? as a "distract/block-a-pass-tactic"? or was something else wrong? ... meanwhile, Pete Stavrides stayed consistently higher knowing smooth and level on altitude was going to be the overall SHORTER LINEAL distance and Pete could just wait it out and reel him in -- as he did in both races. Remember I saw them do this the day before and Aaron won only by fractions Saturday... Pete also has more military fighter low level experience and race experience. Either way I will miss Aaron Hogue, my sympathy to Patrick his brother and family from --Rob Mangold, Mike Mangold's brother.
@@stevegiboney4493 it does appear that way. Over corrected on his right turn then made a hard bank to the left to attempt to reenter the course unfortunately that move is what likely through him in g loc
Bio sensor like some sort of eye scanner that can detect someone passing out and trigger an auto eject might help in the future? Or some sort of remote control override?
Looked like he was banking right to recover airflow, and double back. Very dangerous form of racing, but he died doing what he loved. Sorry for the family's pain.
I feel like 90% of the people in this comment section have never been to an air show let alone the one in Reno. I was there, near a C-17 on display. I watched the jet go down. It’s not just about watching aircraft race, they have stunt planes, military jet shows, they had an F-18 and F-22 there for Gods sake. There is history, there is fun, and there is danger, but there have been substantial changes made to prevent loss of life on both pilots and spectators at these shows. Go to an air show and watch the aircraft fly, it’s extremely mesmerizing and exciting to see.
I've been going to Reno since 1973. I fully agree. I'm a documentarian and post videos - mostly good, this one not good. I'm still not over this crash, or the B-17/P-63 tragedy. You are spot on. Thanks.
@@WarbirdVideos The loss of the pilot during that race was tragic. I remember watching them fly directly overhead and then seeing him go down. It’s just a shame that people believe that because of a few incidents (and likely the 2011 crash as well) the races should be shut down.
@@WarbirdVideos It’s disappointing to say the least. I think it has to do with their insurance costs going up and development of suburban areas near the airport.
I'm with you but what about increasing the safety of planes with mandatory safety systems of some sort onboard? I mean, in WW2 stuka pilots had the benefit of an automatic pull up maneuvre automation if they had lost consciousness in the pull after the dive. It was almost 100 years ago and olny made by electromechanics principles. Don't think it's impossible to have some sort today... with digital circuitry and CPUs. I mean: formula 1 was one of the most dangerous motorsports in the 70s and 80s but they did not shut off the championship, rather they improved the cars and rules.
Low level air racing is inherently dangerous, but that is part of the thrill for both pilots, and spectators. It's not for everyone, but unfortunately when things go wrong it's often fatal, and this tragedy is no different. Motor sport is also dangerous, but it certainly shouldn't be banned. Nor should low level air racing. If people want to risk their lives, let them. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Motorsport is dangerous but doesn't claim many lives anymore, the vehicles are much safer now. The attitude that "if people want to risk their lives, let them" is just ridiculous. I don't like air shows and low level air racing and I don't watch them, however I like hearing about pilots and aircrew dying and spectators too much less.
@@deaddoll1361 If you don't like airshows, don't watch them. It's simple. Or would you rather that everyone conform to your likes and dislikes? Incidentally, why are you watching videos of air races with crashes?
Those who never experience putting it all on the line for something they either love or believe in with everything you have will NEVER understand why people who do take those risks, take those risks. They will sit at home at the computers or watching some stick and ball GAME on TV and calling them SPORTS when they are not. They do not understand, nor can they, a life lived, not just an existence with beer, tv, the internet, golf, video games, and the option to make themselves feel superior by anonymously criticizing others who are out living life, too busy to criticize you for sitting on your ass. Rant off.
It is always sad to see pilots die on airshows, but in this case the whole setting asked for it. High Gs, tight turns and no reserve altitude. At least this person died while living his life… Rest In Peace.
@@dalezegarelli5553 Shut the fuck up man. It is a calculated risk. It's accepted. All pilots choose this. Its always sad if any pilot crashes. Things happen out of your control. The PILOTS accept this.
@@dalezegarelli5553 No, he was LIVING his dream. Don't crap all over other people, simply because YOU are too scared to do anything real, challenging and something that requires sacrifice, in life.
@@Jeremiah_Johnson139 he's dead!!! As a result of fulfilling his dream!! That's about the dumbest dream I've ever heard. My dream is; keeping my feet on the ground. While reaching for the stars!!! Smoke cigarettes....
Everyone is condemning us Americans for having the freedom to choose our style of racing. I’ve read stupid, I’ve read should be outlawed, and every other ridiculous statement. Must we forget that Isle of Man race track exists. Heck I love my bikes, but know better than to top out a 1000cc bike on a village street while literally missing corners of walls by an inch or so. You could argue that jet racing is safer🤷🏻♂️
I see some surprisingly spicy comments on here - but I don't want to discount ... most of them on the basis of my observations. I don't see anything wrong with racing planes, however when you call your "rookie of the year" a 61 year old man, the problem becomes rather obvious. These guys are just too old. I don't mean to dig or criticize, but you can't push your body like your 26, there's a reason there is an age limit in USAF (35 years old requires a special waiver following physical and mental tests)
Apparently that was the straw that broke the camel's back, because the Reno Air Races are no more. The event has seen 20 fatal accidents that have killed 21 pilots and almost a dozen spectators.
24 accidents, the inofficials not included. 1 accident where more than the pilot died. I have to apologize, but from an organizational point of view, this airshow was simply an absolute shitshow. The modified P51 alone would never have received permission to take off in other countries. Not only that: there was not only an exact same incident with a P51, no, even a second incident, with the almost identical problems that the P51 had when it went into the 11g gradient. The list is endless. This also applies to the violations in Reno, but also at other air shows. If you look at the list of misdemeanors at recent air shows, it's a wonder that a plane doesn't crash into a crowd somewhere every year. I love airshows myself, as a Swiss I have seen a few in America, but also here in Switzerland. But since the incident with Patrioulle Swiss, I have taken off my rose-colored glasses and ask myself where there are always mistakes. Unfortunately, you always find major mistakes on the part of the organizers or the pilots. Be it pilots who fly for the army or sport pilots. Air shows in particular offer room for errors.
@@CapulloSpawnAXALP looks pretty dangerous. So what special Swiss regulations are taken into account? I’m sure there are circuits and safe zones, and I have never been, but it looks rather similar in many ways to air racing given the altitudes and maneuvers.
@@StevieMoore It looks dangerous, but it's not. The shots are fired towards a mountain. The flight maneuvers have been trained, and they are not private pilots, but the military and their jets. There was once an accident where a part of a jet fell on a person, and since then it has been forbidden for pilots to fly certain maneuvers that could endanger civilians. Just recently, not at Axalp but in Zug, two jets collided, but were able to intercept their jets. That was from the Patrioulle Swiss, an art flight organization of the Swiss military. This happened over inhabited areas, and the nose of an F5 hit the canopy of a house, injuring a civilian. There was then an investigation. The Patrioulle Swiss has been given new regulations, and its popularity among the population is also drastically decreasing. I myself grew up 75 meters from the scene of the accident. If a jet were down there, the Patrioulle Swiss would no longer exist. Many aviation accidents happen here in Switzerland through the Alps, and there are also so-called wild heuers in the Alps. These are mountain farmers who send the hay down from the mountains to their stables. They use tensioned wire ropes. They are obliged to provide this, but sometimes the data is not up to date and pilots, mainly helicopter pilots, come to harm. It should also be mentioned that since the accident at the US base in Ramstein, many state aerobatic teams have been heavily regulated. There are many maneuvers that are not flown, especially in Germany. But even state aerobatic teams build shit, like the aerobatic team above where I grew up. They had no permission to fly. Or to put it another way, it was submitted but not processed further. I keep saying it, it's just a shitshow no matter where you look. I myself have been to Axalp exactly once, and every year the Patrioulle Swiss flies over the lake and does its tricks. Nevertheless, compared to the accidents in Reno and the one at Axalp, you can't compare them. Axalp is a state event, so no expense is spared. The guy who went down with the P51, I can guarantee you, the costs were at the forefront. Otherwise the guy would have said to himself, "hey look at the other rear left wing too." Everyone can have a hobby, and I allow everyone to fly. But when innocent people get hurt, that really bothers me. The pilot shirks responsibility because he is dead. But those left behind, especially of the victims, can never really come to terms with it. You just wanted to see a few planes, and boom, you get to plan the funeral for one of your relatives the next day. Here in Switzerland I am of the opinion that pilots are only allowed to show off their tricks over the lakes. If someone goes down, the water hits them, but not civilians.
What disgraceful comments going on here. If you have the funs and ability what an amazing hobby this would be. It comes with the dangers that so much other forms of sports and racing come with. Aaron probably experienced more thrill and fulfillment in his life than many people ever come close too. rest in peace
Fun hobby until a pilots recklessness causes the death of people on the ground when they crash into them, because they tried to go faster or take a bigger risk.
Honestly this sport scares the pants off of me but at the same time I love it. Every pilot that takes part in this race knows the Risk that something could go wrong, yet they still go out and race the same with standard race cars, EVERY race has had fatalities yet Reno seems too be one of the worst with two T6 Texans colliding mid air post race this year. NASCAR has “The Big One” the expected crash near the end yet nothing is ever said about it. RIP too this pilot who went out racing a sport in which he probably loved doing.
Sadly if you want to do thing's like racing jet aircraft or wing suit jumping or climbing Everest etc then you and those around you have to accept the risks. The earlier drift was extremely dangerous and he should have been instantly disqualified and pulled from the race, introducing higher safety standards is never a bad thing. RIP.
This looks like a classic case of G-LOC and he blacked out. If flying in a circle at nominal g’s for that long, you’re stamina to withstand that is severely diminished after some time. When he made that roll to recorrect his approach angle into the turn, his correction most likely was too much G for his diminished stamina to handle and he blacked out causing him to crash. End of story.
Considering how much effort has gone into making auto racing as safe as possible, it's hard to believe jet racing could be permitted at all. It just seems far too dangerous.
@@airworks61 May need to brush up on your statistics. First, you measure deaths per participant-event. So if there's 10 people in 10 races and one death, that's one death per 100 participant-events. In comparison, if there's 50 people in 1,000 races and there's 50 deaths, that's actually a lesser death rate at one death per 1,000 participant-events. Second, there's been a trend in auto racing toward greater safety. So you have to narrow the comparison to only what's happened in the last 3-5 years, not the last 30 or 50 years.
GLoc. He rolls out, probably as he loses consciousness. Carrys the rolls on as he is hypoxic, recovers a little, realises what's happening and rolls it back left to rejoin. However that induces more G, you can see him load the aircraft and then it unloads as I expect he passes out properly. I don't think it should be banned, but I believe these guys needs G-suits and medical certification for high G aerobatics which gets renewed yearly. Even military jets would forbid high g manoeuvres at that altitude outside of an airshow. Simply because a mistake at that hieight or a GLoc scenario is fatal. The F16 has a GLoc rescue system. When the "Roll right!" audio alarm is not responded to within a given time frame the aircraft will roll horizon level and pull up into level flight on it's own. This has apparently already saved several airmen from GLOC induced FIT.
I figure he was experiencing some g-loc on lap one. On lap three, when he drifted upward, it had happened again. The drift relieved some of the g force and he was able to correct for the roll to the right. But he over corrected and never leveled the jet before passing out again.
@@WarbirdVideos My next thought having come off the back of some electronics design work.... "How do you detect GLoc?", "What can you do about it?" I would suggest as long as there is an electronic "wings level, hold alt" mode AP available it should be easy enough (for a medical sensor) to detect LOC. Some safety buffering, some delay for the human to respond and then action in giving that autopilot as much gain as it needs to get into parameters as possible. A simpler thing, subject to medical approval would be a low pressure jet of pure oxygen from the mask to help "recover" quickly. Adding system, like in the F16 to assess the aircraft attitude, proximity to the ground etc. and only intervene when necessary, but immediately when so.... would cost $100s in hobby space and 100,000,000 for approve in aerospace.
Is a simple system which couples the O2 release in a mask to the G load such as to avoid GLoc or aid rapid recovery an option? When under High G it injects pure O2 and backs off again to "sips" when unloaded? These guys don't have masks? Then just a nose clip thing.
Im speculating and correct me if im wrong. It seems that people who are sitting in these aircraft are people who can afford such activities and aircraft. So they have the finances to have fun but are they in best of shape? Are they the best pilots to do such a race? Probably not, either way I dont think banning anything is the answer. People who participate know the risks. Let them have fun! Unfortunately because of the nature of this activity some crashes will happen.
I flew in the reno air races, my name is Roger wolfe! I watched the jet crash, he definitely black out, from all the g forces! When he rolled to the right, then sucked the plane, hard back to the left, he pulled 7 gs ,black out! I was just watching from a mile away! Sad to watch!
I have such respect for pilots, it disgusts me how cruel people are about this man's death. Everyone of us will die eventually, have some humility and empathy for those left behind. Your own death may not be as quick and painless.
@@2345allthebest "I'm a Marine, we're the best!" -Ron Howard. "I'm a coward, we're the worst." -Hawkeye Pierce. There's living an exciting life, like..traveling or living in a strange land like I did for 8 years in Japan... Then theres the inevitability of throwing it away long before your time for a "sport" where even the mildest accident ends in catastrophic death and horror. Air Shows are freaking insane.
@@projektkobra2247 have you seen the OP's comments about the statistics behind this racing? assuming you just made a comment without being informed on the relatively low incident nature. Further, you're comparing what you did in Japan, as if anyone gives a shit, to what this dude was doing because he loved it.
4:37 explains everything: How many prolonged G s do you think an old man that cannot even stand straight (plus a pot belly) can withstand? There is a reason why AF fighter pilots: 1- Are chosen according to bodily capabilities 2- Retire early 3- Have a strict fitness program 4- Train regularly to withstand high Gs and most important: 4- Do not fly once in a full moon in circles pulling high Gs with no end.
Im shocked by the lack of empathy and understanding in these comments. Clearly a lot of you are unable to seperate the tragedy of - man’s death from the risk factors involved in the crash. This is a reflection of your lack of maturity. I’m sure he was aware of the risk, that doesn’t negate the horror of his death that occurred in front of his family.
Still not as dangerous as the Isle of Man motorcycle race......just think about that.... For all those crying out at the insensitive comments, realize even in this LESS DANGEROUS RACE than the Isle of Man, these men are aware of the danger. IT IS DISRESPECTFUL to say there can't be any and every single kind of commentary about it.
@@WarbirdVideos Could be. Both the roll to the right, and the roll back to the left were pretty snappy and precise, though. He could have been really disoriented, wanting to just pull up and call a Mayday.
Dear and Holy Father in Heaven, this pilot has come to you for his judgment, I pray for his family to find peace in life through your Son Jesus Christ, Amen
Looks like the black jet passing under caused him to lose lift. Came out, rolled hard and corrected. Then came back in, but the sudden change caused him to black out and he just held it into the ground. He was probably asleep a few seconds before hitting.
A lot of people have expressed their opinion below to the effect that 'it was his fault for doing it' and, of course there is an element of that. But people have died in tragic circumstances cycling, playing football, triathlons and all are tragic and simply because something went wrong, either physically or with equipment or sometimes a combination. I don't follow air racing and caught this by chance, maybe intrigued as to what actually happened. As far as I can see, he knew the risks, the danger (as did his family and friends) but he wanted to continue and died doing something he loved. Premature death, yes! Needless death yes! Tragic loss yes! but it would have been quick and unlikely he dwelt on his demise for longer than a split second. So rather than considering him foolish and berating him, realise that he died doing something he loved and how many of the people making comments below will go out the same way. RIP Aaron
I love aircraft. I always get goosebumps when fighter jets pass over my head. I'd love to be a pilot. But this is just stupid. Can't imagine how family and friends feel. Losing a loved one in this nonsense way must be crazy. Ban this madness. Wanna race a plane? Race against time, not against other planes.
I agree, I never understand this it's plain stupid. I feel very sad for this man and his family, however I am equally upset by how pointlessly dangerous and unnecessary this is. 5 seconds into watching it it was obvious this was not going to end well for somebody, I was just hoping it wasn't spectators or children killed. He knew the risks and paid the price. Stop this stupid racing now and no one else will die, its guaranteed.
@@Celatra what argument is that? Thou car racing is dangerous, it's not ALWAYS fatal. A contact between 2 cars doesnt necessarily mean certain death for both the drivers. Such a poor argument. The point is not 0 deaths, the point is avoid obvious and predictable deaths
Looks like fun. They're ready to die when the race starts so who gives a sh!t. Their lives, their choice. Fear of dying in the crowd? Go play a video game instead.
For everyone who says this is stupid and even the people saying he deserved this what’s wrong with you? What about the family he left behind. Some humans don’t want the safe life we want the extreme pushing the limits to better the sport and have fun, when a racing car crashes you don’t say let end it and never have a race again or the person deserves it for being stupid it’s a sport and things happen everyone who steps into the cockpit or roll cage knows the risk
He did what he loved doing. Condolences to his family. At least he wasn't a couch surfer and doing nothing. To me he was an amazing father and husband who took care of his family. I don't even know the man. These are the real heroes. Men who don't sit around waiting for help. They get it done. RIP.
Outside of everything else, and some of the silly ignorant comment.. Big props to the photographer for noticing and covering this very solidly.. I get no joy at all out of a man dying, but I'd much prefer to know, or at least see an event rather than just hear about it from "word of mouth".. Thanks
Thanks. There's a lot of stupid comments on here that I didn't expect. The same thing happened yesterday. I got a clear shot of the T-6 mid-air at Reno. Quite upsetting really because the Air Races have meant so much to my wife and I for so long. I might post the video, but some time must pass. I also knew one of the pilots. It's very hard to take. But anybody who flies, or drives, or skis, or anything, takes the chance of dying. We all die, yet death is always hard to accept.
This is to be expected... Low altitude, high risk maneouvering, close to other airplanes. People are going to die. It is an announced tragedy and it will happen again and again.
He was out before he hit the ground, after he pitched upward and slightly rolled back over the High G forces more then likely caused him to pass out, I honestly think this is the case due to the maneuvers he was doing and the fact that he gradually descended towards the ground without a fight.
I had see the crash before which seemed for sure g lock. I hadn’t seen the lap 1 incident which seems to be exactly the same thing. He’s pushing himself really hard there for first. For everyone commenting about the safety of these races, that is an inherent risk these pilots take when they race. You don’t get to tell them from your armchair that they can’t in the name of safety. There are rules in place to protect the pilots but ultimately these things can and do happen.
In addition, there are strict rules in place to protect the spectators, which by the way (to all you armchair nay-sayers), have been literally tens of millions of air race fans over the years at Reno.
G-force limiters have to be incorporated into air racing. Racing with propeller planes is/was one thing but once you're pushing your consciousness to the limit with the g-forces of jet engines there has to be more of a safety-intervention than just a pilots discretion...🤷
Only the intelligent and skillfully trained human is able to manuever aircraft in competitive aviation, especially Jets. Aaron Hogue was one of the best, all of you critics who think you can do better, take a reality check- you wouldn't last 10 seconds after takeoff, if you could even get airborn...Godbless you Aaron Hogue, and may your family have peace and comfort.
No one here that I've seen is saying they could do better. People here are saying what is going on here is foolish, and it is. Elderly men have no right being in these planes with their families being forced to watch what is essentially Russian roulette.
It looks like he lost consciousness and just road the jet in to the ground. The jet made no evasive maneuvers. So sad that his family was watching RIP.
High g causes optical tunnel vision and it can be very challenging to simultaneously keep a mental picture of multiple aircraft and your orientation to the ground at extreme low level. Just before his slow roll starboard you can see Aaron increases his roll angle and pulls more g, at which point he has a momentary grey out (still conscious) and relaxes his arm which happens just as you begin to black out. You can then see his AOA relax followed by the slow involuntary roll to starboard. By the time this roll is past 90deg, Aaron regains some mental orientation (a couple of seconds after relaxing the stick and recovering from the grey out), and he rolls back to re-engage, but his nose has dropped while in the starboard roll, so he checks his descent as he rolls back past the level. At this point he should have realized he was out of position having just lost control for a couple of seconds, and exited the circuit, but unfortunately he chose to continue. This was sadly the mistake that cost him his life. Rolling past 90deg momentarily and pulling g pulls his nose below the horizon again, but Aaron misses this as he was looking up through the canopy to reestablish visual with the other racers that were now on a tighter (inside) path. Aaron now has separation from the other racers so he does not see his flight path diverging from the horizontal, and with his head back to see the racers, he did not see the ground rush until it was too late. Ejecting was not an option as he never has a chance to consider this option. He had maybe one second before impact to reduce the roll and load the g's to check his descent, but by the time he saw the scrub flashing past his wingtip, it was too late. Very sad.
Excellent commentary and analysis. That's pretty much the way I see it too. If only he could have stopped his roll to the left and leveled off, he would have come out of it a mile over the desert. I believe he was trying to do just that, and was not trying to reenter the course. I couldn't believe it as I watched it unfolding.
I actually think he lost consciousness at about 2:44. It can take time to regain consciousness even at 1G. The trajectory after that time point is too constant for conscious flight.
G-force limiters should be law. Air racing with propeller planes is/was one thing but once you're pushing your consciousness to the limit [while piloting an airplane] with jet engines there needs to be more safety intervention than, "Trust me, I got this..."
@@garryharriman7349 not an aviator myself but I have knowledge on the area and have friends and relatives who are. Low level flying within close proximity to other aircraft is of course riskier than something like flying at higher altitude with more separation - for example more time to allow for recovery after g-loc (loss of consciousness from g forces). Spacing is overall safer, avoids plane on plane collision. My comment just highlighted the main reason for crash was not the proximity, as they are of course trained and know exactly how to handle things, just the fact that some mistakes were made and pilot was probably g-locked.
dude...he put his life in INSANE danger by participating in a sport like that. When you have a wife and family, that is incredibly selfish...an adult man should know better and take some fuckin resposibility. I dont have much sympathy for this.
As unfortunate as it is when he went to turn back for the last time the g forces caused him to simply blackout and you can't really fly once you've blacked out so he simply took the turn too sharp and blacked out and crashed its very tragic but I can assure you that he didn't even know what happened and died unconscious at the controls
Aaron was a great pilot with a great record and aircraft. A gray out is not recoverable in older people as quickly as with younger. Tragic sorrowful loss. God bless
Anytime someone gets a in a plane, whether up high or down low, it just may be the last time. He died doing something he loved, can't ask for more than that.
yes flying is a risk by itself our combustion technology to create thrust to cut into the air and glide is not safe until we discover secrets of negating gravity like UFO technologied aircrafts like those we see aliens use
Tragic and fascinating. Although NAR has been around for some ~100 years, it's clear that if there is going to be a future in this sport on the level of F1, precautions like remote g-LOC or similar medical emergency in-cabin monitoring will need to be implemented, and better yet, some form of remote aircraft control to mitigate these events. The stresses these pilots go through during these races will only get more intense as competition gets more intense.
Come on people, on average, on our highways the equivalent of a full 747 die every three days... BETTER STOP DRIVING CARS... LMAO, you people need to get a life!
I wonder if that was his last thought, "At least I love what I am doing as I am about to smash onto the ground and disintegrate into a thousand pieces."
@@nedkelley4810 I'm not angry. I just think the comment has no merit. I found it an incredulous assumption on your part. But you be you and do whatever you must to feel better about yourself. And just how old do you think I am?? I guarantee your guess is wrong.
@@pressrolls Really? Intelligence is when you understood the message. Why do people think social media is now a Legal Brief? Rise above son. Dont be a Distraction sally. We are all imperfect.
Cant eject if your asleep behind the wheel from passing out from too many gs. I do think all acroplanes should have some sort of g-lock protection to pull out of a dive automatically if you pass out like the f16
I have lived in Reno for decades. And I go watch the Races every Year. I often even go watch multiple times a day since live so close. It is a dangerous sport.
Racing aircraft where the pilots are putting their consciousness itself to the test with g-forces is an insane thing to do when your very life depends on you being conscious to maintain control.
As Richthofen said about pilots - but equally of the attitude about the zest for life - "Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart." Tragic as this accident is in taking the life of a pilot, I'm sure he died doing what he loved best. Eternal blue skies and clear horizons to you!! RIP 👍
I could only be so lucky to go out doing something I love. I sure wouldn't want to end up like many of the people posting comments here that are challenged by chewing gum and breathing at the same time.
Wow...hard to watch. That last rapid reversal (rolling left back into the course track) and monster pull was certainly causal, but there is so much more to unpack in the 2 or 3 movements before that. I dont race, my experience is in advanced jet training in T-38 Talons, but I do have experience at -3 up to 7.2Gs. I've intervened countless times on young students rolling beyond their abilities and pulling more than their limits (physiological limits)....and that last pull made me cringe. But more of a question in my mind was what was happening 4 sec earlier with the pull up and the roll away from the course? That was the right time to call it a day...leave the fight (race). A return to course and reentering the race took, as seen, a herculean effort. Once the initial reversal occurred (tracking away from the course): level the wings, trade airspeed for altitude, choose your out (safe vector away from other aircraft), knock it off and come home and debrief. That's OUR lesson to learn. Aaron's family lost a lot that day, tragic to lose a skilled aviator and RIP sir. God bless Aaron and his family.
I'm an F-15 pilot. I'm certain he g-loc'd when he pulled in to re-enter the race. Greying out is one thing that makes you more susceptible to completely g-locing, so pilots that grey out will ease up on the stick, and then yank again, making that 'tunnel' close much faster. F-16s have a system now called AUTO GCAS that takes over for incapacitated pilots and avoids ground collisions because g-loc deaths were a systemic thing with them.
g-loc'd??? ah?
@@datura0000 high G induced Loss Of Consciousness
Eagle driver - has to be one of the coolest jobs in the universe.
@@jonnyhammerwielder3951 it is ! 😉
Could you explain what "greying out" is?
Truly depressing. Thank you for uploading the footage and presenting it in a respectful way.
@Bennett Davis isn’t THAT ALWAYS THE GOAL…..!!!!!?????
@Mark Asread lovely
@@jtheriot51 love your Karen haircut
Why depressing? It's part of the equation. And people decide to take that risk. But in any case he died happy, because he died doing what he loved.
@@nairobi203 I like the way you attack someone's opinion using a questionable platitude
This has to be one of the most respectful and personable account of a horrific crash. This should be the standard by which other's try to emulate. Tragic situation and such professionalism in the account. Well done sir.
Was there any assessment of what happened? It doesn’t look like a particularly high G turn. Poor bloke. Poor family. RIP.
These pilots are simply playing a game of Russian Roulette. A game of chance we're the margins for error is far closer than the humans ability to handle. No matter how impressive the pilots record is. I wouldn't be watching these races anywhere close to the circuit.
@@JCGible Americans and their lack of common sense
@@quickstopUKI would assume that since they are racing, they fly at the limit of what their bodies can handle in terms of forces. The course does not look that big, that they can take the turns comfortably at max airplane speed.
@@jasonoreilly2795*humans
Sorry but doing these high G maneuvers repeatedly in your 60's is asking for it. You have to know when to hang it up.
Young pilots are more sensitive to high G’s than older ones.
@@michelpetrus [citation needed]
@@michelpetrus Isnt that due to knowledge about symtoms more then more fit for g-forces?
@@fredrikjonsson6410 Yes, older people are less sensitive to symptoms, that’s why you have older pilots in redbull and other extreme G races.
Yes older people resonate better with low frequency vibrations then young. Nowadays the attraction density frequency is twice higher 13 Hertz and is about to reverse! Do your consciousness math feel the difference of not stay on ground
I'm a flight instructor and apparently, it could be the case he pulled too hard on the stick, having a high G force getting him dismayed for some seconds... RIP ! Pilot !
Aaron most likely G locked when he tried re engaging in the race. The course is set up so most racers will not surpass 5 gs , the hard turn back to left may have caused G lock
Agreed
Probably had a stroke or sth...
My thought also!
No you’re not.
Stop lying to try and impress people, nobody cares actually.
Classic GLOC. Right at 2:40 you can see where he blacks out, and relaxes the pull on the stick. He pulled so hard trying to get back on course that he ripped an aileron off.
It was hard to watch live. I spoke with Aaron on Thursday, we bs'd for a bit about knives, and shooting, and the stupid smoke from the wild fires.......
RIP Friend. May we all be a lucky as you, going out doing what we love.
Amen. Let this be a lesson to others, may we educate ourselves so this never happens again regardless of airframe.
Since there is no video of Aaron in the cockpit where do you " see " him black out and I did not notice any parts come off the plane. If parts had come off the plane in said " hard " maneuver other reports of the crash would have mentioned that
@@jamesadams893 watch as he pulls back. The the pull relaxes, and the plane never changes pitch angle and drifts into the ground. Aviators know this as a classic sign of gloc (g force induced loss of consciousness).
From the flight line, it was like 4 miles out, but all the videos confirm exactly how we all saw it live.
It was a sad and somber end to the only good day of racing we had in 2022. We all lost a friend and great man that day. We will never forget.
@SIXDSOLUTIONS You are just trying to sound like a know it all, but you've outted yourself. It's called "attitude," not pitch angle.
@@gsrsin oh boy. Debated not wasting my time on this but…..
Is attitude not a combination of pitch, roll, and yaw?
You are trying to split hairs with your comment. But I’ll entertain it. Google has some great resources for you to brush up on your terminology. Gday.
The amount of disrespectful and downright gross comments here saddens me. I'm sorry you're getting these comments. Rest in Peace to Aaron Hogue. He died doing what he loved.
Yes. Many comments are flippant, uneducated, juvenile, and some are downright mean.
that said, this is social media. if any story is put on social media, regardless of its content, you are gonna have positive and negative comments. its just the way the world is.
@@induss1491yeah, some even are too stupid to understand the videos, so they just put joke comments
When you toss stuff out on the Internet like that, you have to expect comments of all types every time.
That looks like classic g-LOC. He probably had mild g-LOC when making the initial LEFT turn, and then bailed out (RIGHT) and up. Upon gaining consciousness and going away from the course, he then decided to get back onto to course as quickly as possible with a high-g LEFT turn, which caused the crash. My gf is a retired naval aviator so I ask her a lot of questions on flying. It is very complex and demanding to fly.
I had no idea that this was a thing but, honestly, the whole thing looks like an accident waiting to happen.
Ditto! 👍
@@ursamajor6546 11
i mean an accident is bound to happen in any race
Same
And flying toward spectaculars ..MENTAL...
Man people commenting on what's the point of these races? Really? It's called freedom! People love flying and speed and spending time watching people chasing their dreams. Love for something that moves your soul. What do you do that moves you? Oh by the way up to 50000 people die every year in car crashes. Should we stop driving?
They will respond by saying, "We have to drive, but we don't have to take part in jet aircraft races."
So true. It's freedom to do what you love to do. Not for me personally but I respect the people who do that.
I was raised close by the stead air base watched many races.. from hill sides .. during my time growing up there has been quite a few crashes . Some right in front of the stands , one time a plane crashed into house in upper stead..every time they threaten to end the the races.. all the crashes over the years were tragedies and all had spouses that were watching..but it is a very dangerous sport and all of the pilots who died new it.. so all you can do is salute them and say goodbye..
I lived in upper Stead during the late 70's and that's where I fell in love of the sport. I live on Mt Whitney. I never heard about the plane crash in the residential part though,would you remember the year?
@@robertlantz2206 1992 or three..it hit the garage..
So many people in the comments hating on this. The pilot was doing what he loves and something went wrong. It happens in every aspect of life. Things go wrong and sometimes someone doesn’t get to walk away from it. But to say he’s too old, or they had it coming is ridiculous. You put yourself at risk of death every time you step outside your house. We all die but not all of us die doing what we love. I’m sure every single person in the race knows what could happen. Same with their family and friends. I’d also like to ad the fact that racing planes isn’t some brand new concept either…
try telling OSHA that
My condolences go out to his family 🙏 losing a loved one is an empty feeling.Hope his family may find peace and healing 🙏
Low altitude, hills nearby, aircraft proximity… what could go wrong?
You must be joking those hills are 50 mi away
Your mother giving birth to you . .
@@RPM-wd9rb troll spotted bye
Professional fighter pilots don’t even play this game! And they have tons of more experience in the seat! Constant turning means sustained g load! Not good.
I saw this happen in person and it changed my life. Godspeed Aaron, sympathies to your family and friends.
Yes...I saw it too (obviously), and this was bad enough. But coupled with the CAF P-63/B-17 crash, it did a number on me too.
I was there the day before this crash, but have seen 8 crashes over the years including the Farrells Ice Cream Parlor crash in Sacramento, the Galloping Ghost, Gary Levitz P-51, and Ralph Twombly's T-6 which just missed my son and I parked out past the North end of the runway. Each one takes a toll as you know someone just lost their life. Every time I go to an airshow I mentally prepare myself for it.
@mtlassen1992 It is an unforgiving sport. Alway has been. But aviation lovers just want to go and watch planes fly. Other stupid commentators simply don't have a clue.
Just An OBSERVATION from a Red Bull Air Race two Time World Championship Team: Aaron Hogue had a fast clear lower altitude line that was potentially un-obstructed by air traffic. He was TOO LOW the whole time (but above 50 ft minimum) to allow for margin of error and correction... He started CHANGING ALTITIUDE TOO MUCH; DIFFERENT FROM HIS PREVIOUS RACE... In this Final Race trying to keep the "low lane" he actually lost overall speed by increasing overall distance going up and down. 00:45 Intentionally? as a "distract/block-a-pass-tactic"? or was something else wrong? ... meanwhile,
Pete Stavrides stayed consistently higher knowing smooth and level on altitude was going to be the overall SHORTER LINEAL distance and Pete could just wait it out and reel him in -- as he did in both races. Remember I saw them do this the day before and Aaron won only by fractions Saturday... Pete also has more military fighter low level experience and race experience. Either way I will miss Aaron Hogue, my sympathy to Patrick his brother and family from --Rob Mangold, Mike Mangold's brother.
People have said he was going to cut the pylon and attempted to salvage the race.
@@stevegiboney4493 it does appear that way. Over corrected on his right turn then made a hard bank to the left to attempt to reenter the course unfortunately that move is what likely through him in g loc
Bio sensor like some sort of eye scanner that can detect someone passing out and trigger an auto eject might help in the future? Or some sort of remote control override?
Looked like he was banking right to recover airflow, and double back. Very dangerous form of racing, but he died doing what he loved. Sorry for the family's pain.
Desde o alto pareceu que os comandos dos flaps já estavam agarrando
I feel like 90% of the people in this comment section have never been to an air show let alone the one in Reno. I was there, near a C-17 on display. I watched the jet go down. It’s not just about watching aircraft race, they have stunt planes, military jet shows, they had an F-18 and F-22 there for Gods sake. There is history, there is fun, and there is danger, but there have been substantial changes made to prevent loss of life on both pilots and spectators at these shows. Go to an air show and watch the aircraft fly, it’s extremely mesmerizing and exciting to see.
I've been going to Reno since 1973. I fully agree. I'm a documentarian and post videos - mostly good, this one not good. I'm still not over this crash, or the B-17/P-63 tragedy. You are spot on. Thanks.
@@WarbirdVideos The loss of the pilot during that race was tragic. I remember watching them fly directly overhead and then seeing him go down. It’s just a shame that people believe that because of a few incidents (and likely the 2011 crash as well) the races should be shut down.
@@Justa_Guy_YT 2023 is the final Reno Air Race...
@@WarbirdVideos It’s disappointing to say the least. I think it has to do with their insurance costs going up and development of suburban areas near the airport.
I'm with you but what about increasing the safety of planes with mandatory safety systems of some sort onboard? I mean, in WW2 stuka pilots had the benefit of an automatic pull up maneuvre automation if they had lost consciousness in the pull after the dive. It was almost 100 years ago and olny made by electromechanics principles. Don't think it's impossible to have some sort today... with digital circuitry and CPUs. I mean: formula 1 was one of the most dangerous motorsports in the 70s and 80s but they did not shut off the championship, rather they improved the cars and rules.
First this crash then the Dallas Air Show crash! OH MY GOD! May God Have Mercy On These Families!
Low level air racing is inherently dangerous, but that is part of the thrill for both pilots, and spectators. It's not for everyone, but unfortunately when things go wrong it's often fatal, and this tragedy is no different. Motor sport is also dangerous, but it certainly shouldn't be banned. Nor should low level air racing. If people want to risk their lives, let them. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Do you say that to the children who were killed when daddy took them to the races and a plane slammed down on them?
Motorsport is dangerous but doesn't claim many lives anymore, the vehicles are much safer now. The attitude that "if people want to risk their lives, let them" is just ridiculous. I don't like air shows and low level air racing and I don't watch them, however I like hearing about pilots and aircrew dying and spectators too much less.
@@casualguy3938 When did that happen? Or are you just making stuff up to suit your arguments?
@@deaddoll1361 You're just a sick individual. You probably troll the Internet looking for people dying doing activities that you disapprove.
@@deaddoll1361 If you don't like airshows, don't watch them. It's simple. Or would you rather that everyone conform to your likes and dislikes? Incidentally, why are you watching videos of air races with crashes?
Those who never experience putting it all on the line for something they either love or believe in with everything you have will NEVER understand why people who do take those risks, take those risks. They will sit at home at the computers or watching some stick and ball GAME on TV and calling them SPORTS when they are not. They do not understand, nor can they, a life lived, not just an existence with beer, tv, the internet, golf, video games, and the option to make themselves feel superior by anonymously criticizing others who are out living life, too busy to criticize you for sitting on your ass. Rant off.
Well said.
Still borrowed time though...Skilled ? Yes. Pushing the limit for thrills? Totally. Just too far unfortunately. What did people expect...
I do nothing you wrote here, this video is not sport.
@@chrisclarke7828 you sound even more like an ignorant now
Love how the moaners moan about other people enjoyment.
Airshows in the whole are SAFE, but as with everything in life, there are risks.
It is always sad to see pilots die on airshows, but in this case the whole setting asked for it. High Gs, tight turns and no reserve altitude.
At least this person died while living his life…
Rest In Peace.
Incredibly sad, G forces in trying to get back into the circuit can be deadly, especially so low to the ground
Why is this so sad. The guy had a death wish. He got it!!!!!! Lol!!!!
@@dalezegarelli5553 Shut the fuck up man.
It is a calculated risk. It's accepted. All pilots choose this. Its always sad if any pilot crashes. Things happen out of your control. The PILOTS accept this.
@@dalezegarelli5553 No, he was LIVING his dream. Don't crap all over other people, simply because YOU are too scared to do anything real, challenging and something that requires sacrifice, in life.
@@Jeremiah_Johnson139 he's dead!!! As a result of fulfilling his dream!! That's about the dumbest dream I've ever heard.
My dream is; keeping my feet on the ground. While reaching for the stars!!!
Smoke cigarettes....
I feel sad for pilot and his family as a aviation lover but idiots at the comment section below makes me more sad
Everyone is condemning us Americans for having the freedom to choose our style of racing. I’ve read stupid, I’ve read should be outlawed, and every other ridiculous statement. Must we forget that Isle of Man race track exists. Heck I love my bikes, but know better than to top out a 1000cc bike on a village street while literally missing corners of walls by an inch or so. You could argue that jet racing is safer🤷🏻♂️
This ☝️
I see some surprisingly spicy comments on here - but I don't want to discount ... most of them on the basis of my observations.
I don't see anything wrong with racing planes, however when you call your "rookie of the year" a 61 year old man, the problem becomes rather obvious.
These guys are just too old. I don't mean to dig or criticize, but you can't push your body like your 26, there's a reason there is an age limit in USAF (35 years old requires a special waiver following physical and mental tests)
Apparently that was the straw that broke the camel's back, because the Reno Air Races are no more. The event has seen 20 fatal accidents that have killed 21 pilots and almost a dozen spectators.
24 accidents, the inofficials not included. 1 accident where more than the pilot died.
I have to apologize, but from an organizational point of view, this airshow was simply an absolute shitshow.
The modified P51 alone would never have received permission to take off in other countries. Not only that: there was not only an exact same incident with a P51, no, even a second incident, with the almost identical problems that the P51 had when it went into the 11g gradient.
The list is endless. This also applies to the violations in Reno, but also at other air shows.
If you look at the list of misdemeanors at recent air shows, it's a wonder that a plane doesn't crash into a crowd somewhere every year.
I love airshows myself, as a Swiss I have seen a few in America, but also here in Switzerland.
But since the incident with Patrioulle Swiss, I have taken off my rose-colored glasses and ask myself where there are always mistakes.
Unfortunately, you always find major mistakes on the part of the organizers or the pilots. Be it pilots who fly for the army or sport pilots.
Air shows in particular offer room for errors.
@@CapulloSpawnAXALP looks pretty dangerous. So what special Swiss regulations are taken into account? I’m sure there are circuits and safe zones, and I have never been, but it looks rather similar in many ways to air racing given the altitudes and maneuvers.
@@StevieMoore It looks dangerous, but it's not. The shots are fired towards a mountain.
The flight maneuvers have been trained, and they are not private pilots, but the military and their jets.
There was once an accident where a part of a jet fell on a person, and since then it has been forbidden for pilots to fly certain maneuvers that could endanger civilians.
Just recently, not at Axalp but in Zug, two jets collided, but were able to intercept their jets. That was from the Patrioulle Swiss, an art flight organization of the Swiss military.
This happened over inhabited areas, and the nose of an F5 hit the canopy of a house, injuring a civilian.
There was then an investigation. The Patrioulle Swiss has been given new regulations, and its popularity among the population is also drastically decreasing.
I myself grew up 75 meters from the scene of the accident.
If a jet were down there, the Patrioulle Swiss would no longer exist.
Many aviation accidents happen here in Switzerland through the Alps, and there are also so-called wild heuers in the Alps. These are mountain farmers who send the hay down from the mountains to their stables. They use tensioned wire ropes. They are obliged to provide this, but sometimes the data is not up to date and pilots, mainly helicopter pilots, come to harm.
It should also be mentioned that since the accident at the US base in Ramstein, many state aerobatic teams have been heavily regulated.
There are many maneuvers that are not flown, especially in Germany.
But even state aerobatic teams build shit, like the aerobatic team above where I grew up. They had no permission to fly.
Or to put it another way, it was submitted but not processed further.
I keep saying it, it's just a shitshow no matter where you look.
I myself have been to Axalp exactly once, and every year the Patrioulle Swiss flies over the lake and does its tricks. Nevertheless, compared to the accidents in Reno and the one at Axalp, you can't compare them.
Axalp is a state event, so no expense is spared.
The guy who went down with the P51, I can guarantee you, the costs were at the forefront. Otherwise the guy would have said to himself, "hey look at the other rear left wing too."
Everyone can have a hobby, and I allow everyone to fly. But when innocent people get hurt, that really bothers me.
The pilot shirks responsibility because he is dead.
But those left behind, especially of the victims, can never really come to terms with it.
You just wanted to see a few planes, and boom, you get to plan the funeral for one of your relatives the next day.
Here in Switzerland I am of the opinion that pilots are only allowed to show off their tricks over the lakes. If someone goes down, the water hits them, but not civilians.
What disgraceful comments going on here. If you have the funs and ability what an amazing hobby this would be. It comes with the dangers that so much other forms of sports and racing come with. Aaron probably experienced more thrill and fulfillment in his life than many people ever come close too. rest in peace
Yea, cause "thrills" = "fulfillment" duh
No, just an understanding that most people value life more that a thrill.
Fun hobby until a pilots recklessness causes the death of people on the ground when they crash into them, because they tried to go faster or take a bigger risk.
You mean rest in pieces...
Amen brother. No respect for the dead smh...
My condolences to the family. He is a very blessed man, going out doing what he loved.
Honestly this sport scares the pants off of me but at the same time I love it. Every pilot that takes part in this race knows the Risk that something could go wrong, yet they still go out and race the same with standard race cars, EVERY race has had fatalities yet Reno seems too be one of the worst with two T6 Texans colliding mid air post race this year. NASCAR has “The Big One” the expected crash near the end yet nothing is ever said about it. RIP too this pilot who went out racing a sport in which he probably loved doing.
Sadly if you want to do thing's like racing jet aircraft or wing suit jumping or climbing Everest etc then you and those around you have to accept the risks. The earlier drift was extremely dangerous and he should have been instantly disqualified and pulled from the race, introducing higher safety standards is never a bad thing. RIP.
This looks like a classic case of G-LOC and he blacked out. If flying in a circle at nominal g’s for that long, you’re stamina to withstand that is severely diminished after some time. When he made that roll to recorrect his approach angle into the turn, his correction most likely was too much G for his diminished stamina to handle and he blacked out causing him to crash. End of story.
Considering how much effort has gone into making auto racing as safe as possible, it's hard to believe jet racing could be permitted at all. It just seems far too dangerous.
@Analog Human there really isn't anything more annoying than people trying to quote sh!+ that doesn't even make sense.
Thousands have been killed in car racing. Air racing has had a safer record over all. So statiscally your wrong.
@@airworks61 May need to brush up on your statistics. First, you measure deaths per participant-event. So if there's 10 people in 10 races and one death, that's one death per 100 participant-events. In comparison, if there's 50 people in 1,000 races and there's 50 deaths, that's actually a lesser death rate at one death per 1,000 participant-events. Second, there's been a trend in auto racing toward greater safety. So you have to narrow the comparison to only what's happened in the last 3-5 years, not the last 30 or 50 years.
@Analog Human I'm assuming you don't give up your freedom by wearing a seatbelt.
I feel like he was pushing himself too far to try to win the race, and the G Force ended up getting the better of him.
That’s what I was thinking. The quick maneuver followed by another in the opposite direction might have been too much for his body to handle.
GLoc. He rolls out, probably as he loses consciousness. Carrys the rolls on as he is hypoxic, recovers a little, realises what's happening and rolls it back left to rejoin. However that induces more G, you can see him load the aircraft and then it unloads as I expect he passes out properly.
I don't think it should be banned, but I believe these guys needs G-suits and medical certification for high G aerobatics which gets renewed yearly.
Even military jets would forbid high g manoeuvres at that altitude outside of an airshow. Simply because a mistake at that hieight or a GLoc scenario is fatal.
The F16 has a GLoc rescue system. When the "Roll right!" audio alarm is not responded to within a given time frame the aircraft will roll horizon level and pull up into level flight on it's own. This has apparently already saved several airmen from GLOC induced FIT.
I figure he was experiencing some g-loc on lap one. On lap three, when he drifted upward, it had happened again. The drift relieved some of the g force and he was able to correct for the roll to the right. But he over corrected and never leveled the jet before passing out again.
@@WarbirdVideos My next thought having come off the back of some electronics design work.... "How do you detect GLoc?", "What can you do about it?"
I would suggest as long as there is an electronic "wings level, hold alt" mode AP available it should be easy enough (for a medical sensor) to detect LOC. Some safety buffering, some delay for the human to respond and then action in giving that autopilot as much gain as it needs to get into parameters as possible.
A simpler thing, subject to medical approval would be a low pressure jet of pure oxygen from the mask to help "recover" quickly.
Adding system, like in the F16 to assess the aircraft attitude, proximity to the ground etc. and only intervene when necessary, but immediately when so.... would cost $100s in hobby space and 100,000,000 for approve in aerospace.
Is a simple system which couples the O2 release in a mask to the G load such as to avoid GLoc or aid rapid recovery an option?
When under High G it injects pure O2 and backs off again to "sips" when unloaded?
These guys don't have masks? Then just a nose clip thing.
Im speculating and correct me if im wrong. It seems that people who are sitting in these aircraft are people who can afford such activities and aircraft. So they have the finances to have fun but are they in best of shape? Are they the best pilots to do such a race? Probably not, either way I dont think banning anything is the answer. People who participate know the risks. Let them have fun! Unfortunately because of the nature of this activity some crashes will happen.
Yes just watch the isle of man, to liv free as can be takes alot of risks
God bless the family and rest in peace, he went out in combat
I flew in the reno air races, my name is Roger wolfe! I watched the jet crash, he definitely black out, from all the g forces! When he rolled to the right, then sucked the plane, hard back to the left, he pulled 7 gs ,black out! I was just watching from a mile away! Sad to watch!
Yep... I believe he was graying out before that.
Excellent video and commentary about a terrible thing. Thanks for sharing.
I have such respect for pilots, it disgusts me how cruel people are about this man's death. Everyone of us will die eventually, have some humility and empathy for those left behind. Your own death may not be as quick and painless.
nor their quality of life be as productive and full ... as if shit-talking provides some sort of gratification😛
@@2345allthebest "I'm a Marine, we're the best!" -Ron Howard.
"I'm a coward, we're the worst." -Hawkeye Pierce.
There's living an exciting life, like..traveling or living in a strange land like I did for 8 years in Japan...
Then theres the inevitability of throwing it away long before your time for a "sport" where even the mildest accident ends in catastrophic death and horror.
Air Shows are freaking insane.
@@projektkobra2247 have you seen the OP's comments about the statistics behind this racing? assuming you just made a comment without being informed on the relatively low incident nature. Further, you're comparing what you did in Japan, as if anyone gives a shit, to what this dude was doing because he loved it.
@@cwr8618 -Visit more air shows...soon the odds will be in the Grim Reapers' favour for you and your crowd of inbreds.
@@projektkobra2247 you're a fucking idiot. If the statistics don't support your opinion, you sling insults. Weak character.
4:37 explains everything: How many prolonged G s do you think an old man that cannot even stand straight (plus a pot belly) can withstand? There is a reason why AF fighter pilots: 1- Are chosen according to bodily capabilities 2- Retire early 3- Have a strict fitness program 4- Train regularly to withstand high Gs and most important: 4- Do not fly once in a full moon in circles pulling high Gs with no end.
Im shocked by the lack of empathy and understanding in these comments. Clearly a lot of you are unable to seperate the tragedy of - man’s death from the risk factors involved in the crash. This is a reflection of your lack of maturity. I’m sure he was aware of the risk, that doesn’t negate the horror of his death that occurred in front of his family.
Thank you!
Still not as dangerous as the Isle of Man motorcycle race......just think about that....
For all those crying out at the insensitive comments, realize even in this LESS DANGEROUS RACE than the Isle of Man, these men are aware of the danger. IT IS DISRESPECTFUL to say there can't be any and every single kind of commentary about it.
AMEN….
It's likely that last turn to get back in the race, caused him to blackout.
Graying out likely is why he left the course. I seriously doubt he was trying to do anything but to get straight and level.
@@WarbirdVideos Could be. Both the roll to the right, and the roll back to the left were pretty snappy and precise, though. He could have been really disoriented, wanting to just pull up and call a Mayday.
@@Jeremiah_Johnson139 yeah. I think he was barely conscious when he corrected the roll to the rigbt.
Dear and Holy Father in Heaven, this pilot has come to you for his judgment, I pray for his family to find peace in life through your Son Jesus Christ, Amen
Wow. Alot of these comments are nasty and mean. Yall need be ashamed of yourselves. Gross!🤮
Agreed
It's how dumb people cope with the fact they are gonna die one day. 😁👍
Looks like the black jet passing under caused him to lose lift. Came out, rolled hard and corrected. Then came back in, but the sudden change caused him to black out and he just held it into the ground. He was probably asleep a few seconds before hitting.
I don’t know why, but I for one , never have gotten much comfort from people saying oh at least he died while something he loved.
He didn't love crashing
A lot of people have expressed their opinion below to the effect that 'it was his fault for doing it' and, of course there is an element of that. But people have died in tragic circumstances cycling, playing football, triathlons and all are tragic and simply because something went wrong, either physically or with equipment or sometimes a combination.
I don't follow air racing and caught this by chance, maybe intrigued as to what actually happened. As far as I can see, he knew the risks, the danger (as did his family and friends) but he wanted to continue and died doing something he loved. Premature death, yes! Needless death yes! Tragic loss yes! but it would have been quick and unlikely he dwelt on his demise for longer than a split second. So rather than considering him foolish and berating him, realise that he died doing something he loved and how many of the people making comments below will go out the same way. RIP Aaron
I love aircraft. I always get goosebumps when fighter jets pass over my head. I'd love to be a pilot. But this is just stupid. Can't imagine how family and friends feel. Losing a loved one in this nonsense way must be crazy. Ban this madness. Wanna race a plane? Race against time, not against other planes.
I agree, I never understand this it's plain stupid. I feel very sad for this man and his family, however I am equally upset by how pointlessly dangerous and unnecessary this is. 5 seconds into watching it it was obvious this was not going to end well for somebody, I was just hoping it wasn't spectators or children killed. He knew the risks and paid the price. Stop this stupid racing now and no one else will die, its guaranteed.
SMH, and you people are?!?!??
Ban f2 because Anthony Hubert died in 2019
@@Celatra what argument is that? Thou car racing is dangerous, it's not ALWAYS fatal. A contact between 2 cars doesnt necessarily mean certain death for both the drivers. Such a poor argument. The point is not 0 deaths, the point is avoid obvious and predictable deaths
Looks like fun. They're ready to die when the race starts so who gives a sh!t. Their lives, their choice. Fear of dying in the crowd? Go play a video game instead.
For everyone who says this is stupid and even the people saying he deserved this what’s wrong with you? What about the family he left behind. Some humans don’t want the safe life we want the extreme pushing the limits to better the sport and have fun, when a racing car crashes you don’t say let end it and never have a race again or the person deserves it for being stupid it’s a sport and things happen everyone who steps into the cockpit or roll cage knows the risk
He did what he loved doing. Condolences to his family. At least he wasn't a couch surfer and doing nothing. To me he was an amazing father and husband who took care of his family. I don't even know the man.
These are the real heroes. Men who don't sit around waiting for help. They get it done.
RIP.
Outside of everything else, and some of the silly ignorant comment.. Big props to the photographer for noticing and covering this very solidly.. I get no joy at all out of a man dying, but I'd much prefer to know, or at least see an event rather than just hear about it from "word of mouth".. Thanks
Thanks. There's a lot of stupid comments on here that I didn't expect. The same thing happened yesterday. I got a clear shot of the T-6 mid-air at Reno. Quite upsetting really because the Air Races have meant so much to my wife and I for so long. I might post the video, but some time must pass. I also knew one of the pilots. It's very hard to take. But anybody who flies, or drives, or skis, or anything, takes the chance of dying. We all die, yet death is always hard to accept.
This is even more dangerous than NASCAR, you have zero margin for error.
Most motor racing sports are more dangerous than NASCAR.
@@SpiderBobbyBoy Exactly. The Isle of Man TT is just one, for example.
This is to be expected... Low altitude, high risk maneouvering, close to other airplanes. People are going to die. It is an announced tragedy and it will happen again and again.
What could possibly go wrong with jets racing round a football field.
It’s still safer than the Isle of Man TT.
He was out before he hit the ground, after he pitched upward and slightly rolled back over the High G forces more then likely caused him to pass out, I honestly think this is the case due to the maneuvers he was doing and the fact that he gradually descended towards the ground without a fight.
I had see the crash before which seemed for sure g lock. I hadn’t seen the lap 1 incident which seems to be exactly the same thing. He’s pushing himself really hard there for first.
For everyone commenting about the safety of these races, that is an inherent risk these pilots take when they race. You don’t get to tell them from your armchair that they can’t in the name of safety. There are rules in place to protect the pilots but ultimately these things can and do happen.
In addition, there are strict rules in place to protect the spectators, which by the way (to all you armchair nay-sayers), have been literally tens of millions of air race fans over the years at Reno.
Exactly
@@WarbirdVideos once again pathetically trying to avoid talking about the event that happened in 2011 🤡
G-force limiters have to be incorporated into air racing. Racing with propeller planes is/was one thing but once you're pushing your consciousness to the limit with the g-forces of jet engines there has to be more of a safety-intervention than just a pilots discretion...🤷
The race was crazy dangerous to start with, they nearly collided multiple times.
Racing has its dangers no matter what it is
these drivers know that it's their rush and we root for them hoping no one gets hurt.
Only the intelligent and skillfully trained human is able to manuever aircraft in competitive aviation, especially Jets. Aaron Hogue was one of the best, all of you critics who think you can do better, take a reality check- you wouldn't last 10 seconds after takeoff, if you could even get airborn...Godbless you Aaron Hogue, and may your family have peace and comfort.
Thank you Mike.
No one here that I've seen is saying they could do better. People here are saying what is going on here is foolish, and it is. Elderly men have no right being in these planes with their families being forced to watch what is essentially Russian roulette.
@@stopsign4384 no, you're wrong. You don't get it at all... Sorry.
I'm not an air racer but i would think that one needs to be in top physical shape and form to conquer this sport.
It looks like he lost consciousness and just road the jet in to the ground. The jet made no evasive maneuvers. So sad that his family was watching RIP.
High g causes optical tunnel vision and it can be very challenging to simultaneously keep a mental picture of multiple aircraft and your orientation to the ground at extreme low level. Just before his slow roll starboard you can see Aaron increases his roll angle and pulls more g, at which point he has a momentary grey out (still conscious) and relaxes his arm which happens just as you begin to black out. You can then see his AOA relax followed by the slow involuntary roll to starboard. By the time this roll is past 90deg, Aaron regains some mental orientation (a couple of seconds after relaxing the stick and recovering from the grey out), and he rolls back to re-engage, but his nose has dropped while in the starboard roll, so he checks his descent as he rolls back past the level. At this point he should have realized he was out of position having just lost control for a couple of seconds, and exited the circuit, but unfortunately he chose to continue. This was sadly the mistake that cost him his life. Rolling past 90deg momentarily and pulling g pulls his nose below the horizon again, but Aaron misses this as he was looking up through the canopy to reestablish visual with the other racers that were now on a tighter (inside) path. Aaron now has separation from the other racers so he does not see his flight path diverging from the horizontal, and with his head back to see the racers, he did not see the ground rush until it was too late. Ejecting was not an option as he never has a chance to consider this option. He had maybe one second before impact to reduce the roll and load the g's to check his descent, but by the time he saw the scrub flashing past his wingtip, it was too late. Very sad.
This was so well explained I feel you were in te back seat amd witnessed it all
Excellent commentary and analysis. That's pretty much the way I see it too. If only he could have stopped his roll to the left and leveled off, he would have come out of it a mile over the desert. I believe he was trying to do just that, and was not trying to reenter the course. I couldn't believe it as I watched it unfolding.
I actually think he lost consciousness at about 2:44. It can take time to regain consciousness even at 1G. The trajectory after that time point is too constant for conscious flight.
Reno racing jets do not have operational ejection seats. Safety issue
G-force limiters should be law. Air racing with propeller planes is/was one thing but once you're pushing your consciousness to the limit [while piloting an airplane] with jet engines there needs to be more safety intervention than, "Trust me, I got this..."
Racing fast jets at low level with minimal seperation.......WHAT COULD GO WRONG?!
Well the separation wasn’t the issue, g forces were most likely the issue here.
@@tihc1 Thanks for your insight. Are you an aviator yourself?
@@garryharriman7349 not an aviator myself but I have knowledge on the area and have friends and relatives who are. Low level flying within close proximity to other aircraft is of course riskier than something like flying at higher altitude with more separation - for example more time to allow for recovery after g-loc (loss of consciousness from g forces). Spacing is overall safer, avoids plane on plane collision. My comment just highlighted the main reason for crash was not the proximity, as they are of course trained and know exactly how to handle things, just the fact that some mistakes were made and pilot was probably g-locked.
@@tihc1 Thanks again!
Riposa in pace. Rest in Pece.
Thank you for being mature and respectful.
This got to me a lot more than I was expecting. Especially when you said his wife and kids were there.
He feels no pain and died on the plane he loved.
I'm not in authority to say more.
Condolences to the family.
What a bunch of stupid comments. Show some respect.
dude...he put his life in INSANE danger by participating in a sport like that. When you have a wife and family, that is incredibly selfish...an adult man should know better and take some fuckin resposibility. I dont have much sympathy for this.
Respect, as in the lack of from your own post?
G.F.Y.
I don't get this... probably one of the most (if not the top .1% most) dangerous sports on the planet... why do it?!
Because they feckin can.. let them race.
Because it makes them happy. Lay off it.
So sorry to see something like this happening at a wonderful event like the Reno Air Races.
As unfortunate as it is when he went to turn back for the last time the g forces caused him to simply blackout and you can't really fly once you've blacked out so he simply took the turn too sharp and blacked out and crashed its very tragic but I can assure you that he didn't even know what happened and died unconscious at the controls
Your don’t know lol if he was unconscious, how did the plane turn left? Lol
@@AC-te9dr because he slumped over the controls when he blacked out from the tremendous g-forces that his body experienced
Sustained 3-4 g-force for two laps, greyed out then recovered but pulled hard to get back in and blacked out
Thanks for including the cause!
Still not determined
Aaron was a great pilot with a great record and aircraft. A gray out is not recoverable in older people as quickly as with younger. Tragic sorrowful loss. God bless
Old age coupled with substance abuse is the deadly mistake that they dont take into consideration
So no idea what the problem was?
Did he black out or did the plane malfunction?
My question also
Anytime someone gets a in a plane, whether up high or down low, it just may be the last time. He died doing something he loved, can't ask for more than that.
yes flying is a risk by itself our combustion technology to create thrust to cut into the air and glide is not safe until we discover secrets of negating gravity like UFO technologied aircrafts like those we see aliens use
Humans Love Danger - Great Footage & Commentary - Thanks.
Tragic and fascinating. Although NAR has been around for some ~100 years, it's clear that if there is going to be a future in this sport on the level of F1, precautions like remote g-LOC or similar medical emergency in-cabin monitoring will need to be implemented, and better yet, some form of remote aircraft control to mitigate these events. The stresses these pilots go through during these races will only get more intense as competition gets more intense.
Come on people, on average, on our highways the equivalent of a full 747 die every three days... BETTER STOP DRIVING CARS... LMAO, you people need to get a life!
@@Joey-nq2ec that’s not a fair comparison when taking into account the number of pilots and accidents that occurred over time at this single event.
He passed out for 100% !!!
Way too many G's for his body...
The only consolation is that he died doing something he loved. RIP fella.
I wonder if that was his last thought, "At least I love what I am doing as I am about to smash onto the ground and disintegrate into a thousand pieces."
Has the cause of the crash been determined yet? No wiseguy answers please, I really wanna know. Thanks!
No cause yet, but he likely passed out due to high and sustained Gs.
@@nedkelley4810 Seriously, just how the fk would you know about a heart condition based on his photo?! What a stupid, judgmental comment.
@@nedkelley4810 I'm not angry. I just think the comment has no merit. I found it an incredulous assumption on your part. But you be you and do whatever you must to feel better about yourself. And just how old do you think I am?? I guarantee your guess is wrong.
I'm an ex Air Force pilot and it sure looked like g- lock to me a couple of times sad to see God bless him and his family
No offense...but...you're an ex AF pilot and you can't construct a simple declarative sentence?
@@pressrolls sorry I was drinking a little too much
@@pressrolls Really? Intelligence is when you understood the message. Why do people think social media is now a Legal Brief? Rise above son. Dont be a Distraction sally. We are all imperfect.
Rest in Peace. family,friends be strong.
No ejection seats?
Not on those little guys
Cant eject if your asleep behind the wheel from passing out from too many gs. I do think all acroplanes should have some sort of g-lock protection to pull out of a dive automatically if you pass out like the f16
@@MikoMuru homeboy did not have an injection seat
I have lived in Reno for decades. And I go watch the Races every Year. I often even go watch multiple times a day since live so close. It is a dangerous sport.
My deepest condolences to all of family and friends.
Racing aircraft where the pilots are putting their consciousness itself to the test with g-forces is an insane thing to do when your very life depends on you being conscious to maintain control.
I love the Reno air races..but this was so sad to see this happen..😔
As Richthofen said about pilots - but equally of the attitude about the zest for life - "Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart." Tragic as this accident is in taking the life of a pilot, I'm sure he died doing what he loved best. Eternal blue skies and clear horizons to you!! RIP 👍
And I'm equally sure he would have preferred to live a long, healthy live with his family and friends.
@Andy Evans Quite - but he still took that chance, didn't he?
Man passed away doing what he loved, prayers for the family.
That is a high risk pastime. He and family shout be ready for this each time he takes off.
Am I the only one that didn't know that Jet Races exist?! You must be ballin' to afford this hobby.
Nope, this is first time I'm learning of 'em.
Clicked on this video thought fuck you must need 8 figures to be doing this on the weekend
being a superpower they too many surplus planes from past wars
Dude looked way outta shape for those G's. Complacency is a killer !
Condolences to all affected by this very sad tragedy.
Let's race jets in circle @300ft. What can go wrong ?
Crashes are always possible, they know the risk and love the action. Why hate?
I could only be so lucky to go out doing something I love. I sure wouldn't want to end up like many of the people posting comments here that are challenged by chewing gum and breathing at the same time.
High speed air races at close quarters, close to terrain, what could possibly go wrong?
Wow...hard to watch. That last rapid reversal (rolling left back into the course track) and monster pull was certainly causal, but there is so much more to unpack in the 2 or 3 movements before that. I dont race, my experience is in advanced jet training in T-38 Talons, but I do have experience at -3 up to 7.2Gs. I've intervened countless times on young students rolling beyond their abilities and pulling more than their limits (physiological limits)....and that last pull made me cringe. But more of a question in my mind was what was happening 4 sec earlier with the pull up and the roll away from the course? That was the right time to call it a day...leave the fight (race). A return to course and reentering the race took, as seen, a herculean effort. Once the initial reversal occurred (tracking away from the course): level the wings, trade airspeed for altitude, choose your out (safe vector away from other aircraft), knock it off and come home and debrief. That's OUR lesson to learn. Aaron's family lost a lot that day, tragic to lose a skilled aviator and RIP sir. God bless Aaron and his family.
Yeah I play a lot of MSFS armchair pilot, too!