The TRUTH About the New 2020 Epiphone Firebirds! | Full Review + Demo

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    3:10 - A Bit of Firebird History
    3:40 - First Impressions
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    6:55 - Inside Look / Specs
    13:10 - Clean Tone
    14:12 - Dirty Tone
    15:19 - Final Thoughts
    19:05 - Blacklight Test
    19:36 - The Box
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  • @Trog
    @Trog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Now we know for sure! It is funny how specs get misconstrued online. This was a pretty good guitar. The pickups weren't too bad - but they could use a little more clarity and punch. Definitely a solid guitar if you've been looking for an inexpensive 'bird!
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    0:16 - New Epiphone Line Up
    0:29 - Original Designer Series
    1:13 - Why is Epiphone Firebird Special?
    2:26 - Pricing + Alternatives
    3:10 - A Bit of Firebird History
    3:40 - First Impressions
    6:14 - Is It Really Neck Through?
    6:55 - Inside Look / Specs
    13:10 - Clean Tone
    14:12 - Dirty Tone
    15:19 - Final Thoughts
    19:05 - Blacklight Test
    19:36 - The Box

    • @andybungert
      @andybungert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      YES! TRUE NECK THROUGH AT 599 IS AMAZING!

    • @l3w159
      @l3w159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HELLO

    • @lptomtom
      @lptomtom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Trogly, do you ever plan on doing a video about the Squier J. Mascis Jazzmaster ? I think it's a fantastic instrument and I'd love to know your opinion about it

    • @samgwillym
      @samgwillym 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's Hagstrom fantomen too

    • @glenkepic3208
      @glenkepic3208 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want one !!

  • @TheAjCalvillo
    @TheAjCalvillo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    Trogly: Les Paul, Flying V, Explorer and SG are fan favorites.
    335’s: Am I a joke to you?

    • @foxki6071
      @foxki6071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactlyyyy

    • @michaelruocco6690
      @michaelruocco6690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damn streight. Gibson's best instruments are all hollow and semi hollow.

    • @ScutMonkey
      @ScutMonkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Fan Favorite means just that. What gets the best views? It's not that the 335 is a joke. It's that he's developed a following which doesn't typically like hollow bodies. I mean, do you expect Ibanez guitars to be a "fan favorite" considering what kind of channel he runs? Same thing.

    • @TheAjCalvillo
      @TheAjCalvillo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Scut Monkey it was a joke, man.

    • @foxki6071
      @foxki6071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ScutMonkey that's a tough generalisation you did there

  • @alanthompson3493
    @alanthompson3493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Trogly, you missed one great feature on this new Epi Firebird. Those pickups have the vintage construction and output, unlike the Gibson Firebirds of recent times. These have Alnico magnets inside the bobbins, like the vintage Firebirds, up until recently Gibson has been putting higher output ceramic magnet minis in the Firebirds, which don't have the vintage construction and don't sound like a vintage Firebird pickup. FB minis are different than the minis that come on LP Deluxes and such. Vintage Firebirds have a sound that can be described as between a Tele and a full size humbucker. It is a big deal that Epi has made true Alnico magnet FB pickups for these Firebirds, something that Firebird fans have been urging Gibson to do for years.
    I was really surprised that you didn't mention the new "correct" pickups on these Firebirds, as it is one of the things that players have been waiting for, for a long time.
    I wish Epiphone had put the vintage correct banjo tuners on this model, but I guess they are just following Gibson in that respect, as Gibson has put standard tuners on their recent Firebirds, for some unknown reason.

    • @ElliotGKnapp
      @ElliotGKnapp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Now THAT is great news about the pickups! Those ceramic ones are trash and in my opinion part of the reason Firebirds have remained a niche guitar. Pretty sure Gibson quit with the banjo tuners because they ran out of Steinberger stock after buying the company and ceasing production. They're back available again now, though, so I'm not sure why they wouldn't use them, at least on the US models--they are quite a bit more expensive. I've had both Steinbergers and traditional banjos on my Firebirds and would say I like the Steinbergers better--I would probably never buy one with these tuners. Not cool!

    • @chrisforever1255
      @chrisforever1255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Alan, thanks a lot for this information. Where do you hear about this? It was exactly in my mind when I had the chance to compare this Epi Firebird to several Gibson Firebirds the first week in March. However my Musicstore gets one very early and so it was very interesting to play it side by side with the originals. As I said before I was really impressed of feel and playbility. And, believe it or not, in my ears the Epiphone Birdy sound a little bit better than the Gibson´s - the sound of the pickups was clearer although they were not so loud. Reading your comment now makes it clear! Got my Epiphone Firebird 2020 now for a week and one thing is sure: it will stay a long long time with me!
      Bluesy Greetings from Germany!

    • @geeksuperstar8564
      @geeksuperstar8564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Actually the ALNICO pickups are the only reason to buy or reject a firebird from any brand. It's unbelievable that Gibson is using ceramics on their firebird. What a waste of money, better go with this one.

    • @gordonmidgley8958
      @gordonmidgley8958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I bought a Gibson Firebird in 2017 and the minis PUs as well as being ceramic were massively overwound ( Bridge 26.6 k, Neck 16.4 k ). The tone was all over the place, not bad with gain but very compressed for cleans, so I bought some handwound replacements ( 7.2k & 6.3k ) and the guitar was transformed. A super-fat Tele in many respects, but it had cost a lot to get there. Six months later I spotted one of the Epi Bonamassa Birds, less than half the price of the Gibson, and it's a beauty. A single Alnico bridge pickup c. 7.5 k and an old school fat neck. If these new Epi Birds are in the same league as the Joe B model, with an extra pickup, then they'll be absolute winners.

    • @webtoedman
      @webtoedman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I am amazed. I had a 1976 bicentennial Firebird for some years. This Epiphone accurately duplicates the tone of the Gibson.

  • @shaynesemande18
    @shaynesemande18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Idk why Firebirds are so left out... they look so cool and sound amazing, what is there not to love?????

    • @Whydoyoureadme
      @Whydoyoureadme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They are not very comfortable sitting down.

    • @robertp.mamarella373
      @robertp.mamarella373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shayne, Firebirds are Great for Slide too. Just ask Johnny. Derick Trucks uses one Now because of Johnny. Yup!!!

    • @ZachariahConnor
      @ZachariahConnor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Money

    • @johnkay6619
      @johnkay6619 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IKR?! I'm a Tele guy but I've loved the Firebird since I saw a video of Allen Collins playing one years ago.

    • @alanedmonds4272
      @alanedmonds4272 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The mini humbuckers are a dealbreaker for me-gimme a Firebird with full-size 'buckers or P90s, & I'll definitely be interested.

  • @CosmicHippopotamus
    @CosmicHippopotamus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Epiphone Thunderbirds have been one of their staples while they’re practically a rarity in Gibson’s output. Strange that Firebirds have been the opposite.

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Someone was actually buying the Thunderbird-equivalent to this here guitar while I was at the local music store for the first time in forever, the other day! :-))

    • @purrpocalypse
      @purrpocalypse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Imagine if they did a $599 Thunderbird with a bunch of new finishes?

    • @CosmicHippopotamus
      @CosmicHippopotamus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Luka Marinov Bassists shell out big money for brands that aren’t as well known among guitarists. Pedulla, Warwick (Framus), Fodera, etc. But yeah, Gibson never really figured out the bass market. I’d love a G/Ripper.

    • @DrewPeabaws
      @DrewPeabaws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Luka Marinov Depends on the style of music and the bassist’s preference. I know that Frankie poullain, one of the few bassists I look up to (I’m a guitarist), uses a Gibson thunderbird and his tone is monstrous.

    • @GearGasms
      @GearGasms 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Conor Winston lol - yeah they have never been good

  • @glenkepic3208
    @glenkepic3208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    If i live long enough to sing "When I'm 64" next May, This is my BD present. I'm in love.

    • @bluesingmusic3443
      @bluesingmusic3443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'll be 64 at the end of the year. Not really looking forward to it.(if I'm completely honest). Happy Birthday in advance.

    • @glenkepic3208
      @glenkepic3208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@bluesingmusic3443 Happy Birthday to you in advance, too ! Getting older hasn't bothered me too much. Wish i was retired, though.

    • @robertp.mamarella373
      @robertp.mamarella373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glen, Yeah Man. I'm ichin for one too.

    • @JeyP667
      @JeyP667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You say it’s your birthday!? It’s my birthday to yeah... you say it’s your birthday!? Happy Birthday to ya!!!!

    • @wesleyalan9179
      @wesleyalan9179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

  • @74dartman13
    @74dartman13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I'm different. The Firebird is my favorite Gibson guitar!👍😎🎸🎶

  • @churchbryan35
    @churchbryan35 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm buying the drab green Tuesday...it will be my first Gibson/Epiphone brand...I'm a Fender guy, i own 3 strats atm..I've had a few other brands...but I can't wait...Happy Birthday to me✌️

  • @johnhenfrey5936
    @johnhenfrey5936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I think it’s an absolutely fabulous guitar, at that price, it’s an absolute winner.

    • @robertp.mamarella373
      @robertp.mamarella373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John, For the Price. We're all WINNERS!!!!!

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I really want one of the new Gibson LP Deluxe reissues with the mini humbuckers. But I'll never be able to afford one. So I could buy an epiphone firebird and swap out the firebird pickups for mini humbuckers and get that gorgeous sound. And anyway the firebird is a guitar I don't have yet. I already have les Pauls. It'd be nice to have a guitar as unique as the firebird

  • @thorpenator9148
    @thorpenator9148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your attention to detail is why I continue to love your reviews. You are honest, and do not pull punches.

  • @Curbjaw
    @Curbjaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I think the thing that hurts Firebirds is their lack of finishes. If you're not a big fan of the burst, what do you get to choose from? They're wonderful guitars though, i love mine. I'm glad you mentioned the Diamonds, they're great guitars that nobody ever talks about!

    • @Barney5G
      @Barney5G 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      White firebird look amazing, in my opinion. But you hardly ever see them

    • @glenkepic3208
      @glenkepic3208 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Care taker of a cr in '85 or so.
      The sb is IT for me. All a matter of preference.
      Rock on.

    • @skylarcarlson7745
      @skylarcarlson7745 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Burst is best

    • @rex-rant4322
      @rex-rant4322 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally agree. Everything is les Paul. Nobody knows what an SG is. Even AC⚡DC's Biggest fans don't know what a Gibson SG is. The only V anyone knows about is a Jackson.

    • @Bryan-jd7os
      @Bryan-jd7os 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Barney5G I wish they made a White Johnny Winters model.

  • @JP-vb4ky
    @JP-vb4ky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your guitar reviews! I learn so much. I couldn't find a better epiphone firebird review on line. I've watched this video 5 times and finally got the firebird today! Thank you!

  • @smokepeddler
    @smokepeddler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Firebirds are pretty much the only Gibson that I personally think sound good. Those minihumbuckers sound sooo good. Johnny Winters figured this out a long time ago.
    Epiphone has been seriously stepping up their game.

    • @davidcudlip6587
      @davidcudlip6587 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Like a Tele on steroids. Neck pickup sounds killer. One of the best sounds out there.

  • @1961Humbucker1
    @1961Humbucker1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for this review.
    I was surprised to see that my local music store actually had one of these hanging on their wall, they had ordered it right away once it was available when Epiphone first started shipping them but luckily for me nobody had bought it yet, so when I spotted it there two weeks ago I instantly put a deposit on it, then went in to buy it the following week.
    Now that I've had it for five days here is what I can tell you about mine:
    The finish work is basically flawless, the black line along the raised portion on the body was done correctly, there isn't any chipped finish under the truss rod cover, the pots all work perfectly, the toggle switch is a bit loose but doesn't rattle like the one in your video.
    There was quite a bit of fret buzz on the A string at the first fret but when I checked the neck I found zero relief, so when I loosened the truss rod and got some relief in there the problem went away completely.
    One thing that you'll find interesting is that the B string on my guitar is noticeably quieter than the G string, just like on your guitar. Weird! But it's not bad enough to bother me. I went through a bunch of my other guitars to see if any of those had this kind of issue and they do have slight differences in volume. Maybe it's got to do with resonance in the wood?
    All in all this is a FANTASTIC guitar, especially at this price. Hats off to Epiphone for building such great guitars!

  • @donbrogan8291
    @donbrogan8291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Just bought one and I love it. The tones are great and unique, “chimey”. Sounds incredible through my custom, hand wired 30watt “Marshall style” amp with a 4/12 Vox cab. Also sounds incredible through my ‘65 re-issue Twin Reverb. Clean or driven. But the driven tones are really cool. It’s a work of art anyway you look or listen...

    • @nigelbecker3042
      @nigelbecker3042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does the neck play? is it really thick near the body?

  • @claytencosten7805
    @claytencosten7805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m glad you posted this yesterday gave me something to watch on my birthday

  • @buttkrusher
    @buttkrusher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I am a card carrying member of the reverse firebird cult! I love the look of these guitars, although I have never played one. I always wanted one, but I went for the Les Paul instead, but for $599 maybe I can finally add one to my collection. Good work as usual, Trogly!

    • @bipbipletucha
      @bipbipletucha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly Firebirds can be a little difficult to get used to if you're coming from a Les Paul in my experience. The different pickups often don't sound the way I think they will, sort of like a Strat. Not a bad thing, just peculiar

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bipbipletucha I feel like the pickups in this (and the mini humbuckers in the LP Deluxe) are better suited for mahogany guitars than the regular humbuckers. The regular ones can sound too dark to me tbh
      Mind you one of my absolute dream guitars is an all mahogany strat. The dark mahogany with the bright strat single coils. It'd be killer
      But I do love my firebird and mini humbucker pickups in mahogany too. Though the true daddy is the p90 in mahogany, nothing is quite as good as the sound of that, like in a LP goldtop or a LP Special. It's just a magical combination. Sounds so raw and aggressive
      But man I'm really interested in this epiphone firebird. I think it'd be so versatile for a lot of different things.

    • @duellingscarguevara
      @duellingscarguevara ปีที่แล้ว

      I made myself a non-reverse lefty (easy with a righty 22 fret righty strat neck). I might do a better one with the neck through (instead of just a bolt-on). The tuners are banjo tuners, on the originals.

    • @TUUK2006
      @TUUK2006 ปีที่แล้ว

      You had to choose between two 600 dollar guitars, not sure you can afford both but you have a "collection"? Of what? Used Squier bullets?

  • @DemBones7
    @DemBones7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's nice to hear some clean playing on a Firebird review.

  • @supersonicnomad8437
    @supersonicnomad8437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kudos for the Johnny Winter tribute, very well done! I'm really diggin the neck thru construction!

  • @nathansheogobind6935
    @nathansheogobind6935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been wanting one of the new '20 Epiphones since they launched, and the Firebird was (and still is) at the top of the list. Always love looking at these in-depth reviews so I know what I'm getting!

  • @andyroberts8734
    @andyroberts8734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Trogly, excellent review. Looking forward to see more birds on this channel!

  • @eduardo0796
    @eduardo0796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is a beautiful guitar. Thank you for demoing this one!

  • @two-tone6934
    @two-tone6934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Austin , love your show I bought one of these Firebirds-and it’s been great, Great tone and sustain ...Also bought one of the squire, paranormal Telly’s. Baritone, both due to your show and your excellent reviews thank you so much for taking the time .

  • @OUSoonerinDFW
    @OUSoonerinDFW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really like your reviews. Thorough, but good at holding my attention. Kudos!

  • @eightbars1
    @eightbars1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite shape is the Firebird shape. It has a built-in arm rest that fits my right arm perfectly. And the neck is just a little more to the left than others. I love that. I am surprised that more don't admire the shape.

  • @liammurphymusic9962
    @liammurphymusic9962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’ve always been a tele guy and firebirds are hands down the best Gibson’s to play

  • @invin7215
    @invin7215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So thorough! Great review man.

  • @arunsinghalmusic
    @arunsinghalmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review 🔥

  • @Evan_Verone
    @Evan_Verone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    YES it's finally out. I've been waiting for way too long. I really gotta get this guitar

    • @runnningonempty
      @runnningonempty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you got one...I will add one of the to my arsenal and never even paid attention to one until this vid.And.Im a Guitar snob and own USA guitars...lol

    • @robertp.mamarella373
      @robertp.mamarella373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evan, I too have bin waiting a long time for this. Worth the Wait! Yup.

  • @dancalifone4557
    @dancalifone4557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like that the strap button is behind the neck rather than on the body. I had a epi firebird studio that had the strap button on the body and it would dive like crazy

  • @nogardtla
    @nogardtla 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice! Love watching you upgrade and setup guitars

  • @Oniweeki
    @Oniweeki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Review, very informative. thanks.

  • @MuntheDane
    @MuntheDane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had the opportunity to play with one of these for an evening. It was really a sweet guitar. It was much nicer than I thought it would be. It was impressive to play and I was told that was right out of the box as it came from Epiphone.

    • @javiceres
      @javiceres 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you find the neck on the slim side?

  • @bazzer124
    @bazzer124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was always a Fender guy, relying on them being quality instruments at not a garage-load of cash and quite pleased with the looks, sound and playability of my Stratocasters. Most of the bands I played in were blues based and the Strat was a perfect fit. About 20 years ago I bought an Epi Les Paul standard to fool around with and have never looked back. While I still have my Strat, I also have an Epi LP Custom Pro and an Epi ES-335 Pro that I turn to more than my Strat. I play just for enjoyment now and mostly pick up one of my Epis to noodle with. I think they are well worth the cost and I have never had any problems with them, from purchase to set-up to playing. I will always recommend an Epiphone as a good instrument that delivers excellent sounds. Cheers, Austin. Stay safe.....

  • @dugbert5
    @dugbert5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a Johnny Winter fan so I've always wanted a Firebird. I did have a non-reverse one back in the '70s. I remember it being big and heavy but great sounding. I sold it around 76.

  • @dzl8596
    @dzl8596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I looked at one of these in the pawn shop today. Watched this video tonite. Going back to buy it tomorrow. Thanks for the in-depth review!

  • @jonanderson2026
    @jonanderson2026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I ordered mine, along with the new Epiphone Flying V, in February. Got the Flying V March 2nd, and it blew me away!!! The Firebird came last Thursday, and it's stunning as well!!! No issues with either one. Epiphone has really upped their game in the last few years, and I'd be hard pressed to find a better guitar for the money. I also have the Bonamassa Firebird 1, and an earlier Firebird Studio with the Steinberger tuners, both are neck heavy. The 2020 is light and well balanced. A lot of versatile tones using the expressive tone controls. So glad I bought them both!!!

    • @soarornor
      @soarornor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds great. No neck dive?

  • @timbenson2051
    @timbenson2051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the Review, I'm a Telecaster player, but I decided to get one of these, it's my first Epiphone. I love it. It plays great, It sounds great, and yes, The Neck pickup is where it's at on this guitar. The Fretwork was perfect and the finish had no flaws. Yes, I will Rock this axe !

  • @cpoyet4107
    @cpoyet4107 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great one! The Epi review of the year for sure... Thank you

  • @playersteven007
    @playersteven007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do a great job on every guitar you show and always enjoy the hard work you put into it.My favorite is my Les Paul solid body guitar but a little heavy after awhile..Thanks.

  • @charlesharper7292
    @charlesharper7292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of those guitars I glance at in passing, and go about my way. Kinda like Fender's limited custom Telecaster FMT HH. Finally bought one, love it!.
    I am not a big Gibson fan, except for a nice SG. This Firebird is really cool! Now I need to find one to play so I have an excuse to buy one!
    Thanks Trogly!

  • @wolfgangschulz2149
    @wolfgangschulz2149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great honest review. Thank-you sir. I am trying to decide weather to get the Gibson or Epiphone Firebird five so this review is right up my alley. I have the Epiphone Polymist gold Joe Bonamassa Firebird one. I found it pretty much unplayable out of the box, ( it was painful to play for a long time). Once my luthier finished gluing in the frets and did a plek on it at Weston Instruments it has become a dream to play. I find it so playable now for hours. I prefer it over my American Fender strats these days.

  • @jpvvandermerwe87
    @jpvvandermerwe87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review - thank you very much !
    Keep these coming please !

  • @shanesanko1408
    @shanesanko1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching your videos very knowledgeable keep up the great work

  • @guitarlovers1
    @guitarlovers1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    If Epiphone made a non-reverse Firebird I'd buy one in a heartbeat...

    • @KalosPVP
      @KalosPVP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really? The headstock is holding you back? The reason I'd never buy ANY Gibson guitar is the horrendous fret wire they use on seemingly all their guitars.

    • @guitarlovers1
      @guitarlovers1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@KalosPVP No no :) The headstock isn't holding me back, I LOVE reverse Firebirds, I own seven ( 3 Gibsons and 4 Epiphones ) but I also like the non-reverse Firebird because it's different...

    • @vcr210
      @vcr210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too.

    • @gilsanderson3275
      @gilsanderson3275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KalosPVP The reason I'd prefer a non-reverse is the location of upper strap button. Every Gibson or Gibson-style I've ever owned with the button at the neck heel gets it moved to the upper horn......it just balances better. With the reverse Firebird, the upper horn is to "far back", making the balance even worse.

    • @sejrec56
      @sejrec56 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bought a non-reverse real Gibson Firebird about 10 years ago on eBay for about 1300.00 w case w 3 pickups. Plays and sounds amazing. An off white color.

  • @wesleyalan9179
    @wesleyalan9179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the Firebird shape...one day I want to get one

  • @ShonCope
    @ShonCope 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had an 86 Epi FB. Had a single in the neck, hum in the bridge and, yes, a steinberger trem. I filled in the trem and routed the neck out for a humbucker and she was one of the absolute BEST epi's I ever owned.

  • @ColinStuart
    @ColinStuart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On one of my tours I got to play a Firebird V, with banjo tuners, and a micro tuning bridge! It was a pleasure to play!

  • @gregorypekkery
    @gregorypekkery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i love the bird! their neck is like looking out over a cadillac hood ~ it just goes on forever

    • @robertp.mamarella373
      @robertp.mamarella373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it does. Like a V12 under the Fret Broad. Yup! LOL

  • @RinrvUSA
    @RinrvUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, I really like the sound from those pickups on OD.

  • @JaimeCerrada
    @JaimeCerrada 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mr. Trogly ! Thank you so much for this video!! Pretty clear! This is just what I needed to buy or not buy the guitar! I was waiting for a full reveiw of this guitar from someone and ... here is! Mr Trogly did it!
    Cheers from Barcelona!

  • @guitagious9464
    @guitagious9464 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for answering my biggest question about these Epi Firebirds, Austin!!!

  • @thesnapperkeeper
    @thesnapperkeeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Ive been waiting for this one

    • @shiner2539
      @shiner2539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're the person who wanted it? Kudos to you man

  • @TealScarab
    @TealScarab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vittorio “Vic” Vergeat of the band Toad used a Firebird very similar in style to this one and he absolutely slayed on it. Just check out their song “Pig’s Walk” off of their 1971 debut!!

  • @bretspangler8717
    @bretspangler8717 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one has some amazing tone and sustain, now I need one ;)

  • @riczuniga2736
    @riczuniga2736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just bought a Used 2014 cherry Gibson Firebird!! And it sounds as good as it looks!

  • @Greg-vd5om
    @Greg-vd5om 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Trogly is in the HOUSE!!!

    • @deathmetalstickfigure
      @deathmetalstickfigure 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Where!? I can't find him

    • @otavio048
      @otavio048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah i hope he is respecting quarentine

  • @edwardlouisbernays2469
    @edwardlouisbernays2469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I was in Dallas, Texas when Cream Final Tour played Me and a friend went all the way from Hot Springs, Arkansas in a Pink Mustang ...1969 Final Tour and Eric Clapton was playing them Firebird, I was Standing there TRYING TO NOT JUMP UP AND DOWN SCREAMING like a 19 Year Old child, FAIL.
    He played "Spoon- Full" with Mostly his Backside to the Audience--IDKwhy
    but I had ALSO SEEN CLAPTION Play """"LIVE""" in Hollywood twice before and THIS FIRE BIRD GUITAR CONCERT was the best ever playing by Clapton "EVER!"
    I seen "threads" discussing this and THOSE LIKE ME WHO WAS really THERE stay adamant and have the supremacy standing as "EYE-EAR-AND BEING a Guitarist in a Band, (with a 1966 Gibson ES 330 guitar) " Claptans Playing on the Dallas show STANDS OUT and the THUNDERBIRD GUITAR is totally STAND OUT as His Best Ever-
    also he was on some KILLER DOPE that night, but we don't judge him, Damn I am 70 Years Old and Still Play guitar.JUST TRADED A EPIPHONE 2001 Les Paul Delux Black for a Brand New EPIPHONE ES 339 P90 PRO!

    • @claudephilips8468
      @claudephilips8468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for sharing this lol, what an awesome read.

  • @jrom428
    @jrom428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't wait to see that EOB Strat review. This Covid thing is keeping me from trying one in the shop...next best thing a Trogly review. Hope that's next

  • @bnastali
    @bnastali 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU DID IT! Thanks so much. I love mine, and added a Stetsbar!

  • @maffooo2040
    @maffooo2040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Hey trogly you should do a partial mod series, where you replace the pots, output Jack, switch etc, but not the pickups, on a budget guitar, and see the difference it made and/or compare it to an expensive guitar

    • @_dmfd
      @_dmfd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @WaurufEx I've personally done this to a 2006 Epi Les Paul SG Custom reissue and it made a decent difference. Main thing I did was swap for Gibson USA pups, 50's style wiring, 500k CTS pots, brass nut and Nashville style bridge ( though ABR 1 would have been more authentic ) with an authentic USA Maestro trem and it ended up sounding great. I did that about 12 years ago and was able to sell it off for twice what I paid for and put into it. If an electric is constructed well and proper it really just comes down to electronics to mainly change tone. That's why I think higher end Epis that come with CTS and Gibson pups ( pre 2020 ) were a great deal.

    • @smalltowninnewmexico
      @smalltowninnewmexico 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      but then he would have to actually PLAY guitar..... not noodle around like my 12 yr old son does... at least Trogly should get a real musician to demo the guitars because.......damn

    • @MrJam1001
      @MrJam1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smalltowninnewmexico He had a guy for a short while but he was worse lol

    • @KazeAkiyama
      @KazeAkiyama 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smalltowninnewmexico Trogly is a collector, not a player.

    • @smalltowninnewmexico
      @smalltowninnewmexico 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KazeAkiyama which is why the dude cant talk about 'how it plays' because its like me telling a motorbike person how a particular bike rides, as i dont know how to ride a fricken motorbike. its just damn frustrating.

  • @therealnekser6466
    @therealnekser6466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The new Firebirds (since 2018 i believe) from Gibson have the same headstock as the Epiphone. So actually, Epiphone has the exact same headstock as the Gibsons.

    • @cmarriott98
      @cmarriott98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They started doing this in limited numbers a few years back with the Japanese market factory Lyre vibrola guitar. A downgrade in my opinion. I have one with mini grovers and one with Steinbergers and the latter are far superior.

    • @robertp.mamarella373
      @robertp.mamarella373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree!!!

  • @thecolorhero1078
    @thecolorhero1078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice review. dig the new guitar neck profile foamy thingy youre employing. been a while that ive tuned but gotta say big step up on the production since ive tuned in. many blessings.

  • @billnelson9413
    @billnelson9413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the mid 90’s Epiphone Firebird Custom VII in Cardinal Red with gold hardware, three mini humbuckers, and Maestro Vibrola. It is a killer guitar! Bigger headstock and gold tulip tuners. They also did an all gold like a goldtop, black, and sunburst too. Total sleepers.

  • @josephriddlestone4684
    @josephriddlestone4684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They aren't mini humbuckers, they're a completely unique rail design (on the original). That, along with the neck through body are what have it it's unique sound. Somewhere in the middle of a single coil and a humbucker, with a lot of harmonics coming from every resonant part of the instrument being on one block of wood.

  • @iloverush123
    @iloverush123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My old man has a JB Firebird I, when we got it the truss rod was actually hanging out of the neck, however up to pitch with 10s the neck was arrow straight. My guess is they backed it off so much during setup they basically unscrewed it from the anchor. I've never seen a more perfectly straight neck, tho.

  • @inyourarea9292
    @inyourarea9292 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta say, that play test was tasty as hell, great playing

  • @mightyV444
    @mightyV444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice how there's always a new video up just right for dinner time in NZ! And thank you! :-)) *Edit:* And already have I picked up on the 111 in the serial number during the first shot of the back of the headstock just now x-))

  • @tamra__
    @tamra__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Hopefully epiphone will do the III version next

    • @therealnekser6466
      @therealnekser6466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm more for the VII, but the III is also nice

    • @roberthenry6910
      @roberthenry6910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@therealnekser6466 Epiphone already did a VII about 20 years ago. I'd be more interested in either the III or just a I.

    • @johnabbott138
      @johnabbott138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd like a III as well. They had two pickups, a vibrato and dot inlays. That's just what I'm looking for.
      I'd refinish it in red (if not already that color) because I hate sunburst. It's also relocate the switch to a position similar to that of a Lull FX (a Firebird copy). I hate where Gibson places most of their pickup switches.
      And for those of you complaining about the flat headstock and/or lack of banjo tuners, Gibson went to the flat heading design and conventional tuners towards the end of the original run of Firebirds. There are even some transitional models that feature P90s instead of the Firebird humbuckers.

    • @masterlangley3869
      @masterlangley3869 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to see the III return to the line.

  • @funkmcfingers
    @funkmcfingers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mine is the best I've seen from Epiphone, the action is crazy low without any buzz and it's just a beautiful guitar. I got a 50's standard Les Paul recently too and the frets are awful, they need resetting and I was so disappointed with it. But the Firebird is a definite favourite!

  • @wolfgangwylde5889
    @wolfgangwylde5889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will definitely be buying one of these.
    Finally a neck thru structure

  • @Berkland1000
    @Berkland1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done demo.

  • @dalenixon1947
    @dalenixon1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally, Firebirds are my favourite.

  • @dorfsteen
    @dorfsteen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When I think Firebird I think Allen Collins

    • @jameshatch5722
      @jameshatch5722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Allen Collins and his Firebird was the reason I picked up the guitar in the first place. Owned SG, Strat copies, BC Rich, got an Epi LP Special Mod now, going for Firebird next!!!,🤠

    • @Arlo4511
      @Arlo4511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. I've waited 40 years to get one and it finally arrived today. Can't wait to get off of work and get home!!!

  • @Barney5G
    @Barney5G 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your playing is leveled up on this Phoenix

  • @lrvogt1257
    @lrvogt1257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I paid about $250 new for my Gibson Firebird III in 1964 and it looked, played, and sounded great.

  • @JRLopez13
    @JRLopez13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its just me? Every time I see an opened guitar I can sense the factory smell, I know its crazy!

  • @brianforlin3963
    @brianforlin3963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    People think that scarf joints are a bad thing, but you don't see nearly as many Epiphones with snapped off headstocks as you do Gibsons, and the scarf joint is the reason why.

    • @qwertpoiuy430
      @qwertpoiuy430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brian Forlin they are not a bad thing. However, lack of a scarf joint denotes a high level of wood quality. It can get very hard to find wood the length of the neck+headstock.

    • @davidfuller581
      @davidfuller581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@qwertpoiuy430 Eh, not really. Scarfs also save a ton on material costs - there's so much scrap from an unscarfed neck by comparison.

    • @runnningonempty
      @runnningonempty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BULL SHIT!..I have repaired 1Epi LP and 2 SG headstocks...Not saying that scarf joints are at all bad,The problem is still here with the truss rod route creating a very thin spot in the center of the neck,To be fair one of the SG's was broken at the neck below the headstock...

  • @johnspokus
    @johnspokus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Firebirds are great, never thought I would like them until I played one

  • @vanessabarnes1931
    @vanessabarnes1931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the white model of this flying V . It was a gift from my husband for my birthday last year. My V is my ❤️

  • @Mark-vv1dy
    @Mark-vv1dy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting that you noted the B string was quiet. The original Firebird design had a tiny steel plate sitting across the two alnico bar magnets, directly underneath the B string to increase its output. I bet these Epiphone pickups skipped including it - a lot of modern reproductions do.

    • @rohanm8526
      @rohanm8526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have one and I've noticed a drop in output on the B string too! Good to know it's a thing, I guess, but it's a shame they didn't relocate the original PUP design as you say. Thanks for your comment.

  • @mraycgz
    @mraycgz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve noticed a lot of ads claim rosewood especially in the description but are laurel. Not just from Gibson or Epiphone. I just ordered a cheap Squire mustang. That’s when I noticed it.

    • @stricknine8623
      @stricknine8623 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pau Ferro and Indian Laurel fretboard woods that are being used in $450.00 and up, price ranged guitars is a result of the regulations levied on Rosewood and it is a general positive for the consumer.
      Historically, Pau Ferro and Indian Laurel fretboards were found only on high end, boutique guitars.
      I have guitars with all three of these fretboard woods.
      The Laurel and Pau Ferro might feel a little better under the fingers than Rosewood but they both are definitely better to look at in my opinion. Tone ? Couldn't say there is any difference. If there is,..it wouldn't be worth mention.

  • @chrisbassman3936
    @chrisbassman3936 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a decent review. I did see another review where the guy played with high gain distortion and showed it can do heavy metal. I want one of these but im also looking at the explorer and 50s les paul.

  • @rb343
    @rb343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is also a great guitar for some really gritty slide type Johnny Winter music. I'm very happy with mine. My local guitar tech flipped it for me since I'm left handed. No issues there. A great deal for the price!

  • @thinkingape7655
    @thinkingape7655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    FYI, The Slash version is a set neck, with long neck tenon.

    • @charlescull9283
      @charlescull9283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uhhh they’re neck-through. Where did you get your long neck tennon “fact”? Did you make it up?

    • @cycadaacolyte6349
      @cycadaacolyte6349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charlescull9283 The official Epiphone specs are "Neck Joint: Glued In; Deep-set neck tenon"

    • @thinkingape7655
      @thinkingape7655 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlescull9283 took out the neck pickup and looked. Douche

  • @bonnibloop_
    @bonnibloop_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    YES

  • @selbino
    @selbino 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A beautiful looking guitar. Have been looking at this model recently so this video has come at the right time. 👍🏻 Cheers Austin

  • @richeyweinstein7706
    @richeyweinstein7706 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, your playing performance......you really are an excellent guitarist.....this one video says it all!

  • @bluesrockguitaristmikesall2708
    @bluesrockguitaristmikesall2708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Trogly,I was having a similar issue with my back pickup,on my Epiphone Firebird,the A string was very weak sounding. Had a Luthier look at the pickup,he found a 1" x1/4" metal shim between the pickup,and pickup cover.The guitar sounds great now ( minus the shim) (Shameless Plug Coming Up)You can check it out on the B.B. King/ Johnny Winter tune "It's My Own Fault" ,on my channel . Nawenko:wa (Great Thanks- Mohawk Language) .

  • @markferguson3745
    @markferguson3745 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always thought that the SG and Firebird were Gibson's best designs,- the simple and the luxe.The mini hums really do make the difference, the decided preference of those who listen.
    It would be nice if they did some more colours; I've seen the blue from older releases, and the gold was cool; either would do.

  • @gabewilliams7462
    @gabewilliams7462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wholeheartedly recommend the DBZ Hailfire. I've had a guitar, and a bass model, and they both were amazing instruments.

  • @jcoulter43
    @jcoulter43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice review and demo as usual. I have a Diamond Hailfire and love it. It apes the design of the Firebird without being a direct copy. Gibson are doing a nice job of leveraging the Epi brand finally. Great guitar and an excellent value. God bless and rock on 😎👍🎸

  • @ronnierazor4302
    @ronnierazor4302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They changed the headstock on the Original series Firebird from 2019 to the one you have on the Epiphone now

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome Trogly《☆》I still have my Epiphone 2001 FB VII. It's still in original condition with the FB pickups & Lyre vibrola in gold. I think mine is probably more visually stunning in vintage sunburst & definitely has more tone with 3 pickups. I would like to see Epiphone do an Allen Collins FB with a P90 grafted on🤓🗣🔊☮✌👍🏾☠SKYNYRD☠

    • @tracygibson1292
      @tracygibson1292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Allen Collins is the great one !!@Skynyrd

  • @1961Humbucker1
    @1961Humbucker1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trogly, if you read this post, I just want to chime in and say that the Epiphone Firebird that I purchased three weeks ago had the same problem as the one in your review where the B string has much lower output volume than the G string. Very weird! I've never had that issue before and I've owned piles of guitars.
    The music store that sold it to me offered to exchange it for a new one that they had just received, which was very nice of them I must say.
    The new one has perfectly balanced output across all 6 strings and that is on both pickups. I'm super glad to have this one because as much as I tried to ignore the string balance issue with my first Epiphone Firebird it was really starting to bug me.
    Since we've both experienced this problem it appears that Epiphone had a run of these FB720 mini humbuckers that were wonky for lack of a better word.

  • @melvinthompson4323
    @melvinthompson4323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool video and content thanks!😎👍🏼❤️

  • @jubei7259
    @jubei7259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pssht!.... was waiting for some 'FREE-EE-BIRD yeah!' lol. Can't believe he didn't rip some Allan Collins (or at least some early Clapton riffs). Reverse Firebirds kick ass but finding an original 60's Gibson in decent condition is a nightmare, never mind expensive.

    • @bipbipletucha
      @bipbipletucha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty soon there won't be any left without headstock breaks lol

  • @BDImaniac
    @BDImaniac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm still waiting for a limited edition Non-reverse firebird

  • @wryng
    @wryng 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dug your review and video! I just wanted to say that I got my model today and I had no noise or wiggle in my switch. Probably a legit defect they would fix under warranty, since I'm sure you already looked at tightening the nut. Otherwise, just so folks know, it's not totally endemic to the guitar. HOWEVER; mine was made this year and it might have been something they fixed since your original review? I dunno. Everything else you talked about was pretty spot on. Thanks for doing these! It was super helpful and true.

  • @thevelointhevale1132
    @thevelointhevale1132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought one ... been an Epi fan and owner for years now ... the Firebird is the Dark Horse of all Rock Guitars; absolutely killer Guitar.