Brilliant brilliant and brilliant! My friend would love you on this review! Not on the item you understand. Lots of people do the first look review and never come back. So you never know long term if the item is going to last long term, but you came back just like the Terminator 😂😂😂
@@Biking360 No problem!! I have the Ortlieb Classic Panniers too, the yellow and black ones (waterproof) and they are fantastic. I going shopping with the pair and I can't believe how much stuff you can fit in them!
Thank you for the update. I bought the bag (still awaiting shipment) after I saw your first video and before I saw this one. I was relieved to hear you haven't had problems with the load in the bag bulging out and interfering with your legs. I expect my 12L bag will remain on the bike full time as I don't want to be uninstalling and reinstalling my bottle cages.
On the waterproofing: The small zip leaked in torrential rain, but only because the bike was parked with the drive train side towards the rain. Tilt the bike the other way and the problem is solved. During riding there were never any problems with water coming in. About the zip covers at the top: I just tuck them in and they stay put. I have been looking at other frame bags, but this one seems to be the best. Greetings, Maurits.
@@MAURITS_BIKE-HIKE That's interesting. I will try to tuck the flaps in and see how that goes I had thought of cutting them off but your solution is a much better idea and one I had never even considered. Thanks for the tips and take care. Jay
@@Biking360 Well, at the end of the tube has to be a valve you put in your mouth. Where do you keep it on your bike out of the way so it doesnt get in the way of your legs or wheels while riding?
Oh I see! I do not use the bag with a water bladder and only use it for general storage. The lower compartment can accommodate a water bladder and tube which feeds to the top of the bag but I have no experience with it. Sorry!
It is 100% Waterproof and has kept all my gear dry in all parts of the bag even during heavy monsoons. In like a lot of other frame bags this is genuinely fully waterproof which is one of the main reasons I chose it.
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Brilliant brilliant and brilliant! My friend would love you on this review! Not on the item you understand. Lots of people do the first look review and never come back. So you never know long term if the item is going to last long term, but you came back just like the Terminator 😂😂😂
Thanks very much. I very much appreciate the kind words and hope this review has helped. Maybe it is time I did an update on my Ortlieb Panniers!
@@Biking360 No problem!! I have the Ortlieb Classic Panniers too, the yellow and black ones (waterproof) and they are fantastic. I going shopping with the pair and I can't believe how much stuff you can fit in them!
Thank you for the update. I bought the bag (still awaiting shipment) after I saw your first video and before I saw this one. I was relieved to hear you haven't had problems with the load in the bag bulging out and interfering with your legs. I expect my 12L bag will remain on the bike full time as I don't want to be uninstalling and reinstalling my bottle cages.
It's a great bag :)
Excellent update on the original review, thanks for keeps us up to date.
On the waterproofing: The small zip leaked in torrential rain, but only because the bike was parked with the drive train side towards the rain. Tilt the bike the other way and the problem is solved.
During riding there were never any problems with water coming in.
About the zip covers at the top: I just tuck them in and they stay put.
I have been looking at other frame bags, but this one seems to be the best.
Greetings, Maurits.
@@MAURITS_BIKE-HIKE That's interesting. I will try to tuck the flaps in and see how that goes I had thought of cutting them off but your solution is a much better idea and one I had never even considered. Thanks for the tips and take care. Jay
Thank you very much for this helpfull video!
Great review. Thanks.
Where do you have the bite valve while you're riding so it's easy to reach?
Sorry but I don't understand what the bite valve is!
@@Biking360 Well, at the end of the tube has to be a valve you put in your mouth. Where do you keep it on your bike out of the way so it doesnt get in the way of your legs or wheels while riding?
Oh I see! I do not use the bag with a water bladder and only use it for general storage. The lower compartment can accommodate a water bladder and tube which feeds to the top of the bag but I have no experience with it. Sorry!
Do you secure your framebag somehow at your bike so it doesnt get stolen?
There is no way to do that.
How did the bag perform in heavy extended rain?
It is 100% Waterproof and has kept all my gear dry in all parts of the bag even during heavy monsoons. In like a lot of other frame bags this is genuinely fully waterproof which is one of the main reasons I chose it.
I don’t miss a day a week kislux This show..
Rogue Panda bag is not waterproof, specifically the zipper & seams. Good follow up video
It's just another way of saying "ghetto" for poor people wearing imitations. BUTTTTT It's a smart investment when rich people do it kislux