I'm more than happy with the Tailfin top tube bag and downtube packs, so I just bought the new frame bag without hesitating a single moment. This is what I call thorough planning process and research, because most big manufacturers have all the necessary tools, machines and materials to make the perfect product, but just few of them try to give their best. Thank you for taking so much attention about the small details! Definitely waiting for your handlebar bag too, hope that you will design one in the future.
Fairlight Secan 2.5 owner here. I have been waiting for the Tailfin frame bags and did not hesitate buying one today. Not a bad price either IMO. I vote for a Tailfin bar bag next please 😎
This full frame bag (white R&D) in the background is a nice teaser for what hopefully comes next! I would really like to put my 3l water bladder inside of a future Tailfin full frame bag.
I’m so curious about the full frame bag as I’ve seen it demoed by other channels. I also would much prefer a full frame bag…is this still in development?
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
GRRRRR Damn you tailfin. Something else that’s brilliant and will enhance my cycling experience to spend my money on 😡😡😡 I couldn’t be more happier to oblige 😀😀😀😀😀 And another great video with quality details Bravo
I've been looking at the Tailfin website at the dimensions of these packs - one thing that I feel needs adding to allow selecting the right pack to fit each bike is the headtube section height, to allow a optimal fit in to that area.
Just bought myself one, the upload feature didn’t work with a website photo but when I took a photo of my bike myself it worked fine, looks a great frame bag 👍
@@TailfinCycling thank you for doing great products! If I can ask a small question, would this bag fit a bike that has a slightly bended top tube in the front? (Romet Huragan 2 if you would like to see a picture) would the carbon frame allow the slight bend while keeping everything functional ?
Well, I just got myself a Fairlight Faran. Seeing your frame bag fitted perfectly to a Secan in this video makes me optimistic there's one that's ideal for a Faran 58R? I trust the quality as I've been using your aeropack for years.
Hi, We certainly will have a frame bag size for this model. We recommend using our sizing tool frame-bag-sizing-tool.tailfin.cc/ to ensure you get the perfect fit. Any further questions please do let us know.
Can't decide between a 3L or 2.3L. 3L fits my bike much like the bike in the video but without side entry bottle cages, how easy is it to remove the downtube bottle? 2.3L would definitely work. Hmm..
Very well thought out. My full line of bags from another manufacturer has them sending multiple replacements-over a short period of time-due to zipper failure. Frustrating, of course.
Everything looks like it's optimized for very short headtubes. I'm not a tall rider, but the section between the bottom of the top tube and the top of the downtube on my bike is 55mm. The dimensions listed on the website indicate that all but the largest frame bag are much smaller than that. This implies there would be a large air gap between the bag and the downtube. Is this expected?
Is there a solution for the unlucky users of the top tube bag for the rattle problem? Not forcing users to fiddle around with the zipper?! Are new top tube bags fixed in that regard?
@@RLnixalsversrus The zippers on their top tube bags rattle when riding. Apparently this issue is fixed for new top tube bags - but it's not clear whether this fix works for the original design.
I have a Tailfin top tube bag that is attached with screw mounts. Will I need to remove those mounts and use the straps the way that was shown in the video?
This seems crazy. If it wasn't all so detailed and understandable I would say this seems like those insta comercials for warterproof and cut resistant shoes, where you know its to good to be true and the product ist crapp. The amount of work, care and data that suggestededly (new word I guess?) have been put in this product is amazing. And how it should be. It hink I will by a set.
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Hi Tailfin. Thank you for the presentation of your new kid on the block. Looking very good and they fit very well into the overall line-up of all of your bags. One question: What if, I bolt on the Tailfin top tube bag and would like to use one of your new frame bags. How does the frame bag attached? - This scenario wasn’t shown in the video. Thanks for clarification. Regards, Christian.
So, two options: You could screw top tube pack on first then ideally just run the frame pack strap through the tunnel of top tube pack OR in between the V-Mounts. If that doesn't work, then put frame bag on first (avoiding the screw bosses) then screw the top tube pack down on top of the straps.
Hi Kevin, two options: You could screw top tube pack on first then ideally just run the frame pack strap through the tunnel of top tube pack OR in between the V-Mounts. If that doesn't work, then put frame bag on first (avoiding the screw bosses) then screw the top tube pack down on top of the straps.
My bike has the brake and shifter cable running into the downtube (top part). I think your images/content showed that the bag was flexible in certain parts aside from the V-mount section. Is it flexible enough to accommodate this so that the cables aren't unnecessarily stressed?
Hi Brandon, Thanks for getting in touch, If you can please email some images over to hello@tailfin.cc our Customer service team can take a look at this from you and confirm if its possible!
Hi, I’d highly recommend using our online sizing tool or printable PDF with your bottles fitted to give you a clear idea; www.tailfin.cc/frame-bag-printable-sizing-templates frame-bag-sizing-tool.tailfin.cc/
Hi, can a litelock x1 go into one of the frame bags? And which one could fit a litelock x1? It looks like a great product, I currently fit the lock into a frame bag but I suffer from knee rubbing. If I could fit the lock into one of your bags I would consider buying the frame gab with top tube bag combo
Hi Dawn, if you take a look at one of our print at home templates, this will show you sizings and give you a rough guide on which lock you can fit. We haven't tested these bag with specifically with a Litelock X1 so wouldn't be able to confirm the fit for you I'm afraid. Print at home template - www.tailfin.cc/frame-bag-printable-sizing-templates/?v=79cba1185463
Hi, what material ist those pieces at the end of the zipp strap made of, Plastic or Silicon? Plastic makes always a lot of noises especially on the rough gravel roads. But Silicon is quite.
Tried to upload photo and it is says error(perfect photo took from website with white background), tried different formats, png, jpg, it is in high resolution. Also another question, do you have plans for aerobar bags?
The sizing tool was a bit overloaded yesterday. If it's still not working today pls email hello@tailfin.cc with the image. aerobar bags... yes... in time...
so you say no helicopter tape needed to protect frame and paint? or would you still recommend something under your v-shapes for the extra picky ones under us?
We're confident in our V-mount technology, but if you'd prefer a 100% guarantee of no scratches, then helicopter tape can be used as an extra layer of protection if needed.
Is it really THAT different than the Geosmina frame bag for way less money? They're almost identical, and they've been around for 2 years + with their design.
Just looked at the Geosmoma bags. Yeah, I’d say these are quite a bit different. One is simple and one is highly engineered. Whether it’s worth more is up to you, but I’m paying the extra for the tailfin’s additional benefits.
You are evil people! I just received my Fairlight Secan 2.5 frame last week and now you launch and advertise this phenomenal frame bag on a Secan, I must have! I’ll place my order soon, just take my money!
Hey guys. Is it possible that the Frame Bike Sizing tool is still work on progress? The bags on my picture get positioned low in my bike frame triangle.
one of our testers has been using it with an STR 58... instagram.com/p/C46lV9NSZ1o/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== He has the 2.7L Wedge. So likely you would need the 1.9L Wedge. But worth using the frame bag sizing tool.
Apologies if this has already been addressed (comments are hard to search). Is there a bolt-on option for your frame bags (either official or unofficial but doable)? I'm using a bolt-on bag now (Niner frame with Niner's low quality bag) and really want to stick with that mounting. I'd also like to avoid paying triple this for a custom bag if I can.
Hi Kevin, The Frame bags are not designed to be directly mounted and you will need to use the the supplied V-mount strap’s You can simply replace your mount screws with a low profile option and you will have no issues with the fit.
Tailfin makes great product - I love my AeroPack! Framebags also look nice. But please, you need to figure out a solution for cheaper EU returns. Knowing it is hard and expensive to return, holds me back from more orders, like paniers and now framebags. Damn Brexit!
They certainly look nice, but it's a shame for me that these frame bags don't properly fit mountain bikes and their different angles. Currently (as far as I know) there is only one brand that offers a range of frame bags for mountain bike and it would be nice to have another possibility on the market. After seeing so many R&D riders with specific frame bags on mountain bikes, I was really hoping these kind of product was about to be released.
Yes, we knew there would be some disappointment that these were for dropbar geo. The MTB frame bag project is well and truly underway. We're moving forward but just going step by step rather than rushing anything. Hope that's understandable.
Have y'all never herd of Apidura?...... I see no benefits over my current Apidura bag setup. Not only that Apidura also "Warranty's" their product for its lifetime unlike Tailfins 5 year limited "Guarantee" whatever tf that stands for. Your consumers are not idiots as you believe them to be
The benefit of tailfin bags is they don't move anywhere, because of those incredibly genius tpu straps combined with the rubber plates attached to the bags body. And the zips don't fail as heard of with a specific other brand...😊
I've tried multile photos of different bikes using your sizing tool and all I get is an error message saying "Error: Account limits exceeded". The files are small jpegs defnitley under the limit
I'm more than happy with the Tailfin top tube bag and downtube packs, so I just bought the new frame bag without hesitating a single moment.
This is what I call thorough planning process and research, because most big manufacturers have all the necessary tools, machines and materials to make the perfect product, but just few of them try to give their best. Thank you for taking so much attention about the small details! Definitely waiting for your handlebar bag too, hope that you will design one in the future.
Fairlight Secan 2.5 owner here. I have been waiting for the Tailfin frame bags and did not hesitate buying one today. Not a bad price either IMO.
I vote for a Tailfin bar bag next please 😎
vote considered ;-)
This full frame bag (white R&D) in the background is a nice teaser for what hopefully comes next! I would really like to put my 3l water bladder inside of a future Tailfin full frame bag.
I’m so curious about the full frame bag as I’ve seen it demoed by other channels. I also would much prefer a full frame bag…is this still in development?
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
Amazingly engineered and considered. Well worth the years of development for something of this level of quality
GRRRRR Damn you tailfin. Something else that’s brilliant and will enhance my cycling experience to spend my money on 😡😡😡
I couldn’t be more happier to oblige
😀😀😀😀😀
And another great video with quality details
Bravo
Thank you for making it very easy for me to pick a frame bag and top tube bag. These look fantastic and well thought out!!
No worries, we hope you enjoy the bag. Anymore questions let us know
Looks amazing. These long format videos are really great too - super clear and well presented.
Glad you like them & thanks for the feedback!
I always love Tailfin products, they are pure class and the research that goes into them is incredible!
Thanks for the kind words & support!
I've been looking at the Tailfin website at the dimensions of these packs - one thing that I feel needs adding to allow selecting the right pack to fit each bike is the headtube section height, to allow a optimal fit in to that area.
Just bought myself one, the upload feature didn’t work with a website photo but when I took a photo of my bike myself it worked fine, looks a great frame bag 👍
Everything I've had from Tailfin has worked so well. One of these could be next on the list! Just got to work out which will fit best.
Great to hear, Have you seen our sizing tool? frame-bag-sizing-tool.tailfin.cc/
Excellent presentation
Finally. Great. Thought through. Just ordered one! 🎉🎉🎉
tailfin is GOATED
We try! :)
It would be absolutely amazing if you could put together a list of bikes and bag sizes from your beta users.
Wow... It felt 'almost' over-instructed, but very impressive input with nothing left to chance 🥳. Also I like the Farlight bike a very nice steeley 👏
Glad to hear it!
Definitely my next frame bag
Hi Frank, that's great to hear! If you have any questions please do let us know!
@@TailfinCycling received one today. Looks and feels solid. Hope to test it soon.
On the one hand a number of features seem pretty smart, on the other, it's about 2x the weight of competition. It's a trade-off to think about.
Awesome!
Thanks for the support!
@@TailfinCycling thank you for doing great products! If I can ask a small question, would this bag fit a bike that has a slightly bended top tube in the front? (Romet Huragan 2 if you would like to see a picture) would the carbon frame allow the slight bend while keeping everything functional ?
Well, I just got myself a Fairlight Faran. Seeing your frame bag fitted perfectly to a Secan in this video makes me optimistic there's one that's ideal for a Faran 58R? I trust the quality as I've been using your aeropack for years.
Hi, We certainly will have a frame bag size for this model. We recommend using our sizing tool frame-bag-sizing-tool.tailfin.cc/ to ensure you get the perfect fit.
Any further questions please do let us know.
I think the 3.8L is the correct size for a 58R. I spent most the day studying this for my Secan 2.5!
Can't decide between a 3L or 2.3L. 3L fits my bike much like the bike in the video but without side entry bottle cages, how easy is it to remove the downtube bottle? 2.3L would definitely work. Hmm..
Very well thought out. My full line of bags from another manufacturer has them sending multiple replacements-over a short period of time-due to zipper failure. Frustrating, of course.
Everything looks like it's optimized for very short headtubes. I'm not a tall rider, but the section between the bottom of the top tube and the top of the downtube on my bike is 55mm. The dimensions listed on the website indicate that all but the largest frame bag are much smaller than that. This implies there would be a large air gap between the bag and the downtube. Is this expected?
What bike/size do you have?
@@TailfinCycling It is a Moots Routt 45. Size is a 54, which has a 158mm headtube.
Is there a solution for the unlucky users of the top tube bag for the rattle problem? Not forcing users to fiddle around with the zipper?! Are new top tube bags fixed in that regard?
What exactly is the problem you are referring to?
@@RLnixalsversrus The zippers on their top tube bags rattle when riding. Apparently this issue is fixed for new top tube bags - but it's not clear whether this fix works for the original design.
and I see something beautiful, white, behind the guy on the left. When full frame will be on sale?
I have an external brake cable…. This bag cater for these types of set up?
I have a Tailfin top tube bag that is attached with screw mounts. Will I need to remove those mounts and use the straps the way that was shown in the video?
How is the Development of the Full Frame Bags going? When can we expect them? Its mean to hide one in the background of the video 😉
Great bag, great presentation!
What frame size is the beige/desert Fairlight Secan in your studio?
And what mounts are those on the fork?
Thank you!
This seems crazy.
If it wasn't all so detailed and understandable I would say this seems like those insta comercials for warterproof and cut resistant shoes, where you know its to good to be true and the product ist crapp.
The amount of work, care and data that suggestededly (new word I guess?) have been put in this product is amazing. And how it should be.
It hink I will by a set.
Hi Tailfin.
Thank you for the presentation of your new kid on the block. Looking very good and they fit very well into the overall line-up of all of your bags.
One question: What if, I bolt on the Tailfin top tube bag and would like to use one of your new frame bags. How does the frame bag attached? - This scenario wasn’t shown in the video. Thanks for clarification.
Regards, Christian.
So, two options:
You could screw top tube pack on first then ideally just run the frame pack strap through the tunnel of top tube pack OR in between the V-Mounts. If that doesn't work, then put frame bag on first (avoiding the screw bosses) then screw the top tube pack down on top of the straps.
If the straps positions mirror my top tube bag ,how will it fit my top tube bag as it is a bolt on ?
Hi Kevin, two options:
You could screw top tube pack on first then ideally just run the frame pack strap through the tunnel of top tube pack OR in between the V-Mounts. If that doesn't work, then put frame bag on first (avoiding the screw bosses) then screw the top tube pack down on top of the straps.
My bike has the brake and shifter cable running into the downtube (top part). I think your images/content showed that the bag was flexible in certain parts aside from the V-mount section. Is it flexible enough to accommodate this so that the cables aren't unnecessarily stressed?
Hi Brandon, Thanks for getting in touch, If you can please email some images over to hello@tailfin.cc our Customer service team can take a look at this from you and confirm if its possible!
anyone knows what ‘Half’ size for Scott Addict Gravel 30 size XS with 2 650ml bidons ??🙏🏼
Hi, I’d highly recommend using our online sizing tool or printable PDF with your bottles fitted to give you a clear idea;
www.tailfin.cc/frame-bag-printable-sizing-templates
frame-bag-sizing-tool.tailfin.cc/
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Hi, can a litelock x1 go into one of the frame bags? And which one could fit a litelock x1? It looks like a great product, I currently fit the lock into a frame bag but I suffer from knee rubbing. If I could fit the lock into one of your bags I would consider buying the frame gab with top tube bag combo
Hi Dawn, if you take a look at one of our print at home templates, this will show you sizings and give you a rough guide on which lock you can fit. We haven't tested these bag with specifically with a Litelock X1 so wouldn't be able to confirm the fit for you I'm afraid.
Print at home template - www.tailfin.cc/frame-bag-printable-sizing-templates/?v=79cba1185463
Hi, what material ist those pieces at the end of the zipp strap made of, Plastic or Silicon? Plastic makes always a lot of noises especially on the rough gravel roads. But Silicon is quite.
Hi Igor, the zips are a medium soft TPU construction
These look really neat. What frame size is the purple Fairlight Secan used in your footage and what bag size is in it?
Hey, it's a 56R frame and it's the 3.8L Frame Bag version
Tried to upload photo and it is says error(perfect photo took from website with white background), tried different formats, png, jpg, it is in high resolution. Also another question, do you have plans for aerobar bags?
The sizing tool was a bit overloaded yesterday. If it's still not working today pls email hello@tailfin.cc with the image.
aerobar bags... yes... in time...
so you say no helicopter tape needed to protect frame and paint? or would you still recommend something under your v-shapes for the extra picky ones under us?
We're confident in our V-mount technology, but if you'd prefer a 100% guarantee of no scratches, then helicopter tape can be used as an extra layer of protection if needed.
Use protective tape. Taking from experience.
All I can see in this video is the full frame bag on top of the shelf!
Tempting eh.. We're working hard in the background on these!
Is it really THAT different than the Geosmina frame bag for way less money? They're almost identical, and they've been around for 2 years + with their design.
Just looked at the Geosmoma bags. Yeah, I’d say these are quite a bit different. One is simple and one is highly engineered. Whether it’s worth more is up to you, but I’m paying the extra for the tailfin’s additional benefits.
You have an incredibly uncritical eye if you think those two bags are "almost identical" other than the shape being the same.
@@OptimusSatanas I mean the important properties. The width wich they say is their sellingpoint, is the same...
You are evil people! I just received my Fairlight Secan 2.5 frame last week and now you launch and advertise this phenomenal frame bag on a Secan, I must have! I’ll place my order soon, just take my money!
Hey guys. Is it possible that the Frame Bike Sizing tool is still work on progress? The bags on my picture get positioned low in my bike frame triangle.
Hi Peter, can you please explain in some more detail the issue you're having? Once the bag appears on the bike, you are able to move it around to fit.
Are the frame bags compatible with top tube bags that are mounted with screws to the mounting points on the frame?
yes, the frame bag straps will just go through the top tube strap holes
Best Model/Size for the Specialized Diverge STR 56? I already have a top tube Zip bag mounted (bolt-on attached).
Hey, if you check out our new sizing tool you'll be able to find the perfect fit for your bike!
frame-bag-sizing-tool.tailfin.cc/
one of our testers has been using it with an STR 58... instagram.com/p/C46lV9NSZ1o/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
He has the 2.7L Wedge. So likely you would need the 1.9L Wedge. But worth using the frame bag sizing tool.
@@TailfinCycling it would be amazing if you could create a photo list of your beta user's bikes and bag sizes.
What size frame bag demoed on that fairlight?
Also what size is the bike frame?
Hey! The frame is a 56R and the Tailfin Frame bag was a 3.8L, linked below -
www.tailfin.cc/product/frame-bags/frame-bags/?v=79cba1185463
All development of these bags was done to background jazz for optimum smooth operation
Daily office playlist!
Apologies if this has already been addressed (comments are hard to search). Is there a bolt-on option for your frame bags (either official or unofficial but doable)? I'm using a bolt-on bag now (Niner frame with Niner's low quality bag) and really want to stick with that mounting. I'd also like to avoid paying triple this for a custom bag if I can.
Hi Kevin, The Frame bags are not designed to be directly mounted and you will need to use the the supplied V-mount strap’s You can simply replace your mount screws with a low profile option and you will have no issues with the fit.
TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY
What size Secan + frame bag are you showing here?
Hello, the Secan frame is a 56R and the pack is our 3.8L version.
@@TailfinCycling perfect thanks. I have the 58r so looks like the 4.5l will fit nicely.
Tailfin makes great product - I love my AeroPack! Framebags also look nice. But please, you need to figure out a solution for cheaper EU returns. Knowing it is hard and expensive to return, holds me back from more orders, like paniers and now framebags. Damn Brexit!
They certainly look nice, but it's a shame for me that these frame bags don't properly fit mountain bikes and their different angles. Currently (as far as I know) there is only one brand that offers a range of frame bags for mountain bike and it would be nice to have another possibility on the market.
After seeing so many R&D riders with specific frame bags on mountain bikes, I was really hoping these kind of product was about to be released.
Yes, we knew there would be some disappointment that these were for dropbar geo. The MTB frame bag project is well and truly underway. We're moving forward but just going step by step rather than rushing anything. Hope that's understandable.
Have y'all never herd of Apidura?...... I see no benefits over my current Apidura bag setup. Not only that Apidura also "Warranty's" their product for its lifetime unlike Tailfins 5 year limited "Guarantee" whatever tf that stands for. Your consumers are not idiots as you believe them to be
The benefit of tailfin bags is they don't move anywhere, because of those incredibly genius tpu straps combined with the rubber plates attached to the bags body. And the zips don't fail as heard of with a specific other brand...😊
I had and returned the Apidura frame bag, it's too annoying to use. These bags are simply superior in all regards.
Have you heard of not being super rude to a company just because you like your apidura bag? Such a karen attitude.
I've tried multile photos of different bikes using your sizing tool and all I get is an error message saying "Error: Account limits exceeded". The files are small jpegs defnitley under the limit
Sorry, we've been swamped with people trying to upload images and it's crashed the system. Should be working now if you're able to try again?