By my count: 2 talisman, 6 bombs, 2 bomb bags, 1 key, 3 keys rings times 2^6 = 128 talisman, 384 bombs, 128 bomb bags, 64 keys, and 192 key rings. 768 bombs and 640 total keys in that room without the effects of the popcorn
I was reading your answer and was wondering how we got different answers but I saw that you miscounted the single bombs you counted 6 but there is only 5 so it's 13×64 not 14×64 also the amount of king rings is correct but key rings only give 2 keys per so its 448 keys without the popcorn effect other then that everything is else is right with final answer being 832 of all the items together and bomb bags and key rings not split up
@@Richboy12345 At 5:47, the combination for the golden idol was fulfilled. Oddly enough, it doesn't seem to show up at the bottom left and the two relics needed to make the golden idol seem to disappear from view as well once fulfilled. Edit: As of rewatching the video, I became aware that the same seems to happen whenever any of the combinations occur. The Golden Idol, Four-Leaf Cleaver, etc. (Yes, I forgot what the others were.) Edit2: I forgot to mention this because it slipped my mind but the only time I actually see the combination relics appear after being made is at the end of the video where he "dies."
@@d_a_r_k_n_e_s_s_ The game seems to treat them oddly for sure, but after he gets the first hot cross bun and resets 8:07 you can see that the combination relics are back and a seemingly equal number of random relics are gone, the golden apple for example. Later when he shows the stats screen you can see that at least some of the missing relics are still accounted for 16:05.
I'm pretty sure you can get all of the legendary relics because the portal to the room to get them appears based on how many curses you have (higher chance with more curses), how many blessings you have (blessings lower your chance), and if you have just came out of the room (lowers your chance). Unless the devs implemented a feature that made it impossible to get them all, it should be possible with travel-back
@@jacquelinesung6535 It's probably good for viewer retention or something like that, but it kind of feels like it's edited for young kids with ADHD. Also kind of weird and minor but i hardcore dislike the use of the cinema sins ding sfx, idk why.
@@PolarBear0 No I also definitely hate the ding sound too. And most SFXs that DF uses nowadays, to be honest. I wish we could get the old editing style but with the varied content he does now.
Out of context “Touch the dog” “Now that I’m sparkling like a pretty fairy, lets do this” “These bombs might be big enough to blow up both entrances at once” “All I have to do is sit here and break the balls” “That big, that fast”
yup, there's a grand total of 5. 100 relics, only 5 combinations. And one of those is 'bomb that you have to be REALLY careful you don't kill yourself with'.
Marathon the same round over the course of a few days, get every relic you can, every legendary relic, and visit alter rooms an absurd amount of times and try to max out everything. We need a beyond room sized swing and throw
1643 items. *WARNING: MATH* *I WARNED YOU* *NUMBERS AHEAD* Ok lets do this. First count: 5 bombs 2 bomb bags 2 curse emblems 3 key rings 1 key This should turn into: 10 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 2 but turned into: 12 - 7 - 4 - 9 - 2 which then turned into: -24 - 14 - 8 - 18 - 4 25 - 15 - 8 - 22 - 4 that's an increase of 8 to 26 and an increase of 6 to 68 on average, that means a bouncing chance of around 15 - 20% Let's take 17,5% shall we? Now with an average bounce every 5.7143 items we have to take into account the chance of those items bouncing too. So we can't just take the power of the starting value, that wouldn't let the extra items grow exponentially. We already counted to 74 items which are then doubled a grand total of 4 more times. We're rounding off here because 0.36% of an item just wouldn't spawn, while 0.78% of an item is a spawn, at least that's what I'm going with. 1 --- (74*2) + (0.175*74) = 148 + 12.95 = 160 2 --- (161*2) + (0.175*161) = 322 + 28.175 = 350 3 --- (350*2) + (0.175*350) = 700 + 61.25 = 761 4 --- (761*2) + (0.175*761) = 1522 + 133.175 = 1655 That's the hard way. The easy way is doing (2.175^4)*74 = 1656,03 which is slightly less accurate because it doesn't round off the items. So the answer is probably anywhere from 1500 to 1800 items on screen, accounting for bad or good luck. Take your pick.
Because I counted an average chance of 0.175 to double So you get 0.175 extra items per new item Which could also be written as getting (2 + 0.175) * (items) so 2.175
Damnit. You keep releasing these at bedtime hours for me. I missed when we could sit down and you entertained me whilst I ate. Now I just have DFASMR while I sleep.Thanks anyways!
At 13:12 did anyone else notice that one item in the shop just randomly get dropped off by a pilfer and is now just in the wall? Its hard to see but its in the top left corner of the game.
You can get the duplicator, when you start running out of relics and get the HP cookies you just restart the game. Then you will get all the relics you've missed up to that point. *Edit, just saw the part where you noticed you could do that :D)*
The rainbow kernal potion doubles a bunch of stuff as you'd expect... but ALSO doubles potions (with the exception of other rainbow kernal potions, for seemingly obvious reasons). So if you were to get 2 or 3 of those, then used them in a perfect shop (i.e. a curse potion and an item doubler, on the same floor where you left some anti-curse stuff on the ground in another room or in a secret shop)... Think of the blessings!
I don't even play a single one of his games. Nor do I play dungeon crawlers... but I've watched every single one of his videos for the last couple months.
Here's a tip: to max out your gold, try the spirit. The sylph can give you wealth, but it's much more minor. If you have Golden Delicious and the popcorns to do the double popcorn trick, here's the potions that give you money: Bottled Pilfer, (if you have one use it first, unless there's too much gold on the floor. Then you're at risk of collecting or breaking gold.) Golden Kernels, Seasoned Kernels, Auglycerin, Protein Shake, Potion of Plenty, Rainbow Kernels, (save any you get for last and if you get one leave other potions on the floor to duplicate, even random potions.) Chest in a Bottle ( If you get a cursed chest or blue chest it won't give you money but it may give you different potions from spirit level two.) Keep in mind, if you drink one of these you can get another one that boosts gold, if you have any other potions they can give you a different one that boosts gold, Blood Chalice can produce many potions since it may drop itself. Miniturizer also helps, especially with giving more potions. Now look at the Sylph. What gold boost does it give you? Wealth blessings. While they're something, look at the spirit.
There are a total of: 279,936 keys 419,904 bombs 93,312 talisman And that is 30 min of my life I will never get back. And that is the amount you would have not the amount of bomb bags or key rings.
Great vid! You should've left gold bombs for probably around 500k in last 4-8 floors if you get couple rooms filled with rocks and gold double them 4 times you'll probably crash the game or at the very least make a 1 million gold run possible. By the end of my first full run all I had upgraded was throw damage to almost max. Got all others after one run. My mistake. Now the game is painfully easy. And is gonna be this way for a while. Oh. And buy yourself potions that turn damage into healing more often. Curse removals and transmutes can heal you for a couple hundred. Aim for secret shop potions for a lot more relics a lot sooner. I once got 3 of those on one floor. Hot buns shortly after finishing 4th floor. I would love to see some potion or item that gives 100% chance for cursed dude. Or if he spawned in secret rooms or special locked rooms every floor. With every floor requiring more bombs and/or keys to unlock. Hope the game is gonna grow bigger and better fast. One of my favourites lately. One more idea if you care to check if it's possible if you can get 100 % or more discount in shop. Trying to get there but best I got is I think 70% . Not enough ways to break the game and not enough synergies. Isaac and gungeon are way better. Still waiting for some videos with those games.
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11:25 If you didn't pick any of the items up after doubling there is Key: 576 (64 key rings) Bombs: 656 (64 bomb bags)+(80 bombs) Curse removal: 80 Forgot to mention that this doesn't account for the items duplicating after they hit the ground.
by using a simple calculator u have in that room 12:21 448 Keys when picked up, 576 bombs when picked up and 128 curse removals then add about 30% more coz of popcorn
I'm surprised you haven't been mixing blessings and curses with your relics yet. You could probably replay floors until you get a chance at a legendary relic at the cost of more curses.
Nice vid. Am curious why you didn't go for the blessings, though. A separate video? With that you could do all the crazy stuff you always wanted to do but never had enough dungeon for. Massive pickaxe swing and throw size! massive attack and throw speed! Thousands of health! Every piece of meat heals you for hundreds! Every piece of gold heals you for 10! Criticals every hit! Near-free shop items! Golden meat in the shop that gives you more gold than it costs! Numbers if you're interested: balance, strength, toughness, heartiness, regeneration, wealth, explosiveness, gust(?), cleave (?), demolition (?), slow metabolism (?) - no real limit to how many you can have while new blessings are still effective. (?) ones may have limited practical effect or negative effect beyond a certain point. craftsmanship - increases gold retention by 5%. if you have all upgrades, you only need one. (or none if you have sewing kit. most useless blessing imo). vigor/exuberance - after a certain point seems to have no effect gaining new blessings. Around 10-16 should be max. savagery - increases crit chance by 5%. Don't know what the base chance is, but 20 will guarantee 100%. loyalty - decrease shop costs by 10%. max 80%. 8 of them. fortitude - reduces damage taken by 10%. unfortunately can't reduce by 100%, so 10 is more than enough. demolition - 10 for normal bombs is about the max you can escape the radius of, about 4 for queen bomb (or it's parts) slow metabolism - increase potion duration. at around 20 i've had potions lasting several floors. don't feel that you really need more than that. gust - if it gets too big at the same time it will be harder to throw because it will hit obstacles easier. if you have the chakram, this blessing i think would be hugely OP. cleave - I unfortunately haven't unlocked this yet. Dangit game, give me this blessing already. I don't think this has any/many negative side-effects if it gets too big (maybe accidentally hitting explosives?) but i think it would probably be screen-size by 20.
Legends speak of mighty Gorvylor a God among men who managed to crash the key market, broke the most balls in the world and ate the most delicious buns
Do the no return challenge. You cannot return in a room more than once. You can only use a bomb 1 time in one room . You must collect as many curses as you can. You must only kill bosses through swinging. Good Luck 👍
I counted using math, so assuming he didn't pick up anything as it started then he would have 320 bombs, 128 bomb bags, 64 keys, 192 key rings, and 256 talisman/curse removals
Hey df couldn't you continuously warp between floors like you did for the relics to just constantly get curses and blessings? So in the end get like 1,000 blessings?
If u can go back in the dungeon and redo rooms, u should keep building up curses and then turn them all into blessings and try to make ur pick axe bigger than the room and stuff
In addition to the obvious stone relic, there also seems to be a non-legendary relic you get when you help a pair of rats, called the rat bond. Maybe worth looking into. Also, it seems like the game can only display a limited number of relics in the corner, since i didnt see at least five relics down there, which you did have at the end when you lost them all.
@DangerouslyFunny If you really want to break the game then get the golden apple, golden popcorn, and seasoned popcorn. Take the potion familiar that looks like a green ghost and get as many rainbow kernels as possible to duplicate gold/food potions in a shop. Then just start drinking all the potions. The golden food will duplicate so much the game will have like 1 frame every 5 seconds.
I don't watch Spiffing Brit, maybe I need to check him out. But DF and Let's Game It Out are my two favorite and the most amazing game buster and breaker or circumnavigator game channels I have ever seen.
DUNGREED TIP Wait, so because the spring shoes increases your damage the longer you stay up in the air/flying, you basically get crazy damage increase because you stay in the air with the wings? so the spring shoes effect and the wings synergies together? RelmerRun That is correct. Spring Shoes are a 0/10 item normally but become a 10/10 item with Wings. Krinkels @RelmerRun ok and what should I do to unlock the wings + that red pickaxe? How you managed to save both the wings and the pickaxe (two items)??? I thought it's only possible to save one item after a run. Also, how many points you put on each skill. RelmerRun @Krinkels At the beginning of the run in town I open my inventory and hover over the Wings. It shows the Wings have the additional ability of +1 dash. These Wings came from the dungeon and it took me hundreds of hours to grind for them. I brought them back from the dungeon by always playing with 20 levels in Mystic. During my runs I also added items to the sacrificial altar to build it up to about 75% full. Once I had the Wings I activated the shrine until I got the Red Pickaxe. Once I had both items in town I retrained my stats to 20 Swiftness, 10 Wrath, and 5 Mystic. Then I quit to the title screen and had a save file that I could use to speedrun the game. When I speedrun I load the town over and over again to get the Spring Shoes in the store before starting. This can take upwards of 15 minutes. a. UserOfName .a @RelmerRun So you lose the wings after the speedrun attempt? RelmerRun @a. UserOfName .a No, I keep all items because I have a backup of the save file that I use for speedrun attempts. After every attempt, whether success or failure, when the attempt is over I restore the backup save file. Doing so gives me both the Wings and the Red Pickaxe back. I hope that answer helps. Kbye Bleha RelmerRun Is there no cap to the damage increase? RelmerRun @Kbye Bleha As far as I know there is no upper limit. At least I have not found it! Also there’s a character you have to use -Oblivionwing (use red scythe and upgrade it)
At nine keys, 8-ish bombs, and 2-ish talismans source, (not counting for "losses" mid-doubling), with each item having 64x after doubling 6 times, leaves us with (optimally) 576 keys/key rings, 512 bombs/bomb bags, and 128-ish talismans.
Pilfer ring doesnt reduce the chances of gold duplicating itself when hitting the ground. You cannot pick up gold (or any items) until it hits the ground first, in which the game determines if it should be duplicated or not. Even if you were to stand right where the gold/item would land, if it was going to duplicate, it will duplicate. If anything it just cuts down the profit when using the item doubling potions.
I've done a bit of testing with the Pilfer Ring, and it doesn't seem to stop gold from duplicating. The gold would duplicate regardless of if it was in my ring's range or not.
I do see the keyblade a dropping at the end ... but it isn't shown in the bottom left corner of the game where all the blessings and relics should be seen ... I wonder why, normally it's there
There's at least 128 talismans, 448 keys and 704 bombs. I say at least because it's greater due to the popcorn relic, but just by the potions it at least that.
You should see if someone can make you a mod to make the limit for keys/bombs be 999 instead of 99. Make those double rooms more fun and also see true key blade damage
is the Witche's Brew still in the game? if DF doesn't know yet it gives you 13 curses per bottle. with 4 of them that's be 52 curses. with the double blessing that'd be 102 blessings. (I can't remember if stack curses count or not. so might be better to use a item doubling potion like that one in this video to get a bunch of Talisman.)
You started that room with 13 double-able items and 5 non-double-able items Doubling those items 6 times... You got around 832 + 5 from the doubling, not including items picked up when standing in that room.
By my count:
2 talisman, 6 bombs, 2 bomb bags, 1 key, 3 keys rings times 2^6 =
128 talisman, 384 bombs, 128 bomb bags, 64 keys, and 192 key rings. 768 bombs and 640 total keys in that room without the effects of the popcorn
Why tho
@@noodlenamednate4327 why not?
I was reading your answer and was wondering how we got different answers but I saw that you miscounted the single bombs you counted 6 but there is only 5 so it's 13×64 not 14×64 also the amount of king rings is correct but key rings only give 2 keys per so its 448 keys without the popcorn effect other then that everything is else is right with final answer being 832 of all the items together and bomb bags and key rings not split up
@@noodlenamednate4327 you called?
jordan anderson Key rings and bomb bags give 3 each, respectively.
I like how DF has a beast of a computer and is always trying to find ways to break it and test its limit
Far more about the limits of the game engine, not the computer.
Isak What do you mean? He has two 2080 Ti’s if that’s what you’re talking about
Isak I’d always thought that Titan was just what Ti was short for, so that’s why I replied that
The only thing that makes me come to undermine videos:
"That big, that fast."
Hard not to say that's what she said
Trey Sevy MORE! BIGGER! HARDER! THAT’S WHAT SHE SAI- i mean-
YOU FORGOT THE ROCK RELIC!
THAT MEANS I NEED TO SIT THROUGH ANOTHER ONE OF THESE VIDEOS!!
Who am I kidding I love this
Also i might be blind, but i dont see the golden idol either. If someone could point it out for me if he has it id be grateful
@@Richboy12345 5:46 :)
@@Richboy12345 At 5:47, the combination for the golden idol was fulfilled. Oddly enough, it doesn't seem to show up at the bottom left and the two relics needed to make the golden idol seem to disappear from view as well once fulfilled.
Edit: As of rewatching the video, I became aware that the same seems to happen whenever any of the combinations occur. The Golden Idol, Four-Leaf Cleaver, etc. (Yes, I forgot what the others were.)
Edit2: I forgot to mention this because it slipped my mind but the only time I actually see the combination relics appear after being made is at the end of the video where he "dies."
He got it
@@d_a_r_k_n_e_s_s_ The game seems to treat them oddly for sure, but after he gets the first hot cross bun and resets 8:07 you can see that the combination relics are back and a seemingly equal number of random relics are gone, the golden apple for example. Later when he shows the stats screen you can see that at least some of the missing relics are still accounted for 16:05.
Get all legendary relics in a separate run by curse stacking and travel-backing
I'm pretty sure you can get all of the legendary relics because the portal to the room to get them appears based on how many curses you have (higher chance with more curses), how many blessings you have (blessings lower your chance), and if you have just came out of the room (lowers your chance). Unless the devs implemented a feature that made it impossible to get them all, it should be possible with travel-back
@@Goldy-tv3wv I actually didn't know blessings lowered your chances, this is valuable information and I thank you for it
Who remembers when df didn’t upload daily? If he went back to his old schedule I’d definitely go through some withdrawals
ngl if the new editing style got sent to the shadow realm I’d be ok with semi-daily uploads
Don't give the man ideas!
@@PolarBear0 what's wrong with the current style
@@jacquelinesung6535 It's probably good for viewer retention or something like that, but it kind of feels like it's edited for young kids with ADHD. Also kind of weird and minor but i hardcore dislike the use of the cinema sins ding sfx, idk why.
@@PolarBear0 No I also definitely hate the ding sound too. And most SFXs that DF uses nowadays, to be honest. I wish we could get the old editing style but with the varied content he does now.
Out of context
“Touch the dog”
“Now that I’m sparkling like a pretty fairy, lets do this”
“These bombs might be big enough to blow up both entrances at once”
“All I have to do is sit here and break the balls”
“That big, that fast”
Df:*Casually says “one game crash later!”*
Every time he says it like that I wonder what he tried that we missed 😂
The world may never know........
Doesn't he say EVERYTHING casually
Anyone else angered that there aren’t that many item combinations.
yup, there's a grand total of 5. 100 relics, only 5 combinations. And one of those is 'bomb that you have to be REALLY careful you don't kill yourself with'.
I hope they add more. They should have a idea suggestion like forager does.
I figured that the pillow and elemental shirt would combine at least...
I'm more angered that the blueprints are random drops instead of unlockables with conditions like other dungeon crawlers.
@@zimrankroe6424 Battle PJs!
You should make a video with you eating so many hot crossed buns that you're health car maxes out or goes across the screen, whatever comes first! :D
Marathon the same round over the course of a few days, get every relic you can, every legendary relic, and visit alter rooms an absurd amount of times and try to max out everything.
We need a beyond room sized swing and throw
1643 items.
*WARNING: MATH*
*I WARNED YOU*
*NUMBERS AHEAD*
Ok lets do this.
First count:
5 bombs
2 bomb bags
2 curse emblems
3 key rings
1 key
This should turn into:
10 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 2
but turned into:
12 - 7 - 4 - 9 - 2
which then turned into:
-24 - 14 - 8 - 18 - 4
25 - 15 - 8 - 22 - 4
that's an increase of 8 to 26
and an increase of 6 to 68
on average, that means a bouncing chance of around 15 - 20%
Let's take 17,5% shall we?
Now with an average bounce every 5.7143 items we have to take into account the chance of those items bouncing too.
So we can't just take the power of the starting value, that wouldn't let the extra items grow exponentially.
We already counted to 74 items which are then doubled a grand total of 4 more times.
We're rounding off here because 0.36% of an item just wouldn't spawn, while 0.78% of an item is a spawn, at least that's what I'm going with.
1 --- (74*2) + (0.175*74) = 148 + 12.95 = 160
2 --- (161*2) + (0.175*161) = 322 + 28.175 = 350
3 --- (350*2) + (0.175*350) = 700 + 61.25 = 761
4 --- (761*2) + (0.175*761) = 1522 + 133.175 = 1655
That's the hard way. The easy way is doing (2.175^4)*74 = 1656,03 which is slightly less accurate because it doesn't round off the items.
So the answer is probably anywhere from 1500 to 1800 items on screen, accounting for bad or good luck. Take your pick.
R/theydidthemath
Because I counted an average chance of 0.175 to double
So you get 0.175 extra items per new item
Which could also be written as getting (2 + 0.175) * (items) so 2.175
This is beautiful
Damnit. You keep releasing these at bedtime hours for me. I missed when we could sit down and you entertained me whilst I ate. Now I just have DFASMR while I sleep.Thanks anyways!
Same time zone gang school tomorrow need sleep
DFASMR yesssss
It used to be 10 or 11. Now it's whenever after DF posts.
kakashijr193 same
Watching DF before sleeping is my jam, just keep the vids for the next day m8
4:58 The pilfer ring allows the gold to continually duplicate and collects gold that won't duplicate anymore unless you golden kernel potion
I was literally just went on to YT looking for a new DF vid. Didn't see one, watched something else instead, posted it 21 seconds later.
Legit me every day
At 13:12 did anyone else notice that one item in the shop just randomly get dropped off by a pilfer and is now just in the wall? Its hard to see but its in the top left corner of the game.
DF is back and now I am happy like a dog whose master just came home..😂
Canis Lupus he never left tho
@@bigteo123 true that👍🏼
You dog you
@@S0nder Woof Woof!!
YES! I've been waiting for this for 3 days...
With all the crazy ideas you've tried, this game seems fairly stable considering
You can get the duplicator, when you start running out of relics and get the HP cookies you just restart the game. Then you will get all the relics you've missed up to that point.
*Edit, just saw the part where you noticed you could do that :D)*
4:10 now i know this is risky, but the offchance is so good i'm taking it!
The rainbow kernal potion doubles a bunch of stuff as you'd expect... but ALSO doubles potions (with the exception of other rainbow kernal potions, for seemingly obvious reasons). So if you were to get 2 or 3 of those, then used them in a perfect shop (i.e. a curse potion and an item doubler, on the same floor where you left some anti-curse stuff on the ground in another room or in a secret shop)... Think of the blessings!
If you like a slow game, unlock the food duplicating potion you have in the hub, save up on em, and duplicate golden food. It gets pretty laggy.
I want to see what you would do with the Rune Factory games, they're like Stardew Valley, but the farming and dungeon crawling are turned up to 11.
I don't even play a single one of his games. Nor do I play dungeon crawlers... but I've watched every single one of his videos for the last couple months.
Here's a tip: to max out your gold, try the spirit. The sylph can give you wealth, but it's much more minor. If you have Golden Delicious and the popcorns to do the double popcorn trick, here's the potions that give you money: Bottled Pilfer, (if you have one use it first, unless there's too much gold on the floor. Then you're at risk of collecting or breaking gold.) Golden Kernels, Seasoned Kernels, Auglycerin, Protein Shake, Potion of Plenty, Rainbow Kernels, (save any you get for last and if you get one leave other potions on the floor to duplicate, even random potions.) Chest in a Bottle ( If you get a cursed chest or blue chest it won't give you money but it may give you different potions from spirit level two.) Keep in mind, if you drink one of these you can get another one that boosts gold, if you have any other potions they can give you a different one that boosts gold, Blood Chalice can produce many potions since it may drop itself. Miniturizer also helps, especially with giving more potions. Now look at the Sylph. What gold boost does it give you? Wealth blessings. While they're something, look at the spirit.
There are a total of:
279,936 keys
419,904 bombs
93,312 talisman
And that is 30 min of my life I will never get back. And that is the amount you would have not the amount of bomb bags or key rings.
Keep up the amazing work I love your videos DF
You're good at breaking games. Least if they watch your videos they'll know where to make patches.
He might be the reason for the boss gold in chests. Lol
Great vid! You should've left gold bombs for probably around 500k in last 4-8 floors if you get couple rooms filled with rocks and gold double them 4 times you'll probably crash the game or at the very least make a 1 million gold run possible. By the end of my first full run all I had upgraded was throw damage to almost max. Got all others after one run. My mistake. Now the game is painfully easy. And is gonna be this way for a while. Oh. And buy yourself potions that turn damage into healing more often. Curse removals and transmutes can heal you for a couple hundred. Aim for secret shop potions for a lot more relics a lot sooner. I once got 3 of those on one floor. Hot buns shortly after finishing 4th floor. I would love to see some potion or item that gives 100% chance for cursed dude. Or if he spawned in secret rooms or special locked rooms every floor. With every floor requiring more bombs and/or keys to unlock. Hope the game is gonna grow bigger and better fast. One of my favourites lately. One more idea if you care to check if it's possible if you can get 100 % or more discount in shop. Trying to get there but best I got is I think 70% . Not enough ways to break the game and not enough synergies. Isaac and gungeon are way better. Still waiting for some videos with those games.
I had to stay up until 5 AM German time to get that video and Im gonna hold you responsible for that
There probably is a mod that lets you hold every single relic at once, so try that if possible
- Thats when ur done with Undermine - well played sir
Next: getting all of the blessings and curses
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after finally trying out the game for myself,i gotta say,this game is hard af,im sorry for laughing every time you took a lot of damage in one room
11:25 If you didn't pick any of the items up after doubling there is
Key: 576 (64 key rings)
Bombs: 656 (64 bomb bags)+(80 bombs)
Curse removal: 80
Forgot to mention that this doesn't account for the items duplicating after they hit the ground.
First time I saw your PC specs in the description and I can only say... Jesus Christ, that's overkill for Undermine!
by using a simple calculator u have in that room 12:21 448 Keys when picked up, 576 bombs when picked up and 128 curse removals then add about 30% more coz of popcorn
Like you could calmly tell someone about a gruesome death. I like it
I'm surprised you haven't been mixing blessings and curses with your relics yet. You could probably replay floors until you get a chance at a legendary relic at the cost of more curses.
“You mortals will never stop me with every floor and relic I grow stronger”
Your voice is so calming yet you are almost pure murderous intents
The pilferer's ring collects gold only AFTER it hit the ground, so after it duplicates or explodes
Nice vid. Am curious why you didn't go for the blessings, though. A separate video? With that you could do all the crazy stuff you always wanted to do but never had enough dungeon for. Massive pickaxe swing and throw size! massive attack and throw speed! Thousands of health! Every piece of meat heals you for hundreds! Every piece of gold heals you for 10! Criticals every hit! Near-free shop items! Golden meat in the shop that gives you more gold than it costs!
Numbers if you're interested:
balance, strength, toughness, heartiness, regeneration, wealth, explosiveness, gust(?), cleave (?), demolition (?), slow metabolism (?) - no real limit to how many you can have while new blessings are still effective. (?) ones may have limited practical effect or negative effect beyond a certain point.
craftsmanship - increases gold retention by 5%. if you have all upgrades, you only need one. (or none if you have sewing kit. most useless blessing imo).
vigor/exuberance - after a certain point seems to have no effect gaining new blessings. Around 10-16 should be max.
savagery - increases crit chance by 5%. Don't know what the base chance is, but 20 will guarantee 100%.
loyalty - decrease shop costs by 10%. max 80%. 8 of them.
fortitude - reduces damage taken by 10%. unfortunately can't reduce by 100%, so 10 is more than enough.
demolition - 10 for normal bombs is about the max you can escape the radius of, about 4 for queen bomb (or it's parts)
slow metabolism - increase potion duration. at around 20 i've had potions lasting several floors. don't feel that you really need more than that.
gust - if it gets too big at the same time it will be harder to throw because it will hit obstacles easier. if you have the chakram, this blessing i think would be hugely OP.
cleave - I unfortunately haven't unlocked this yet. Dangit game, give me this blessing already. I don't think this has any/many negative side-effects if it gets too big (maybe accidentally hitting explosives?) but i think it would probably be screen-size by 20.
8:13 after resetting, where did your keyblade go?!?!
Legends speak of mighty Gorvylor a God among men who managed to crash the key market, broke the most balls in the world and ate the most delicious buns
Do the no return challenge.
You cannot return in a room more than once.
You can only use a bomb 1 time in one room .
You must collect as many curses as you can.
You must only kill bosses through swinging.
Good Luck 👍
12:24 Literally my everyday gaming experience
Love the UnderMine videos. ❤️
I counted using math, so assuming he didn't pick up anything as it started then he would have 320 bombs, 128 bomb bags, 64 keys, 192 key rings, and 256 talisman/curse removals
So this is the guy from my math problems in the class
Hey df couldn't you continuously warp between floors like you did for the relics to just constantly get curses and blessings? So in the end get like 1,000 blessings?
Do a run were you pick up a lot of hot cross buns and get stacked
You should do the same thing but with blessings
He needs to get the potion that doubles almost everything in the room and combine it with the stash.
Fjuktkaka 11:50
Infinite health and damage with hot cross buns!!
Me:about to go to sleep
TH-cam: DF HAS UPDATED
Me: Sleep? What is this sleep?!
12:50 There needs to be a mod made to pick all of that up XD
If u can go back in the dungeon and redo rooms, u should keep building up curses and then turn them all into blessings and try to make ur pick axe bigger than the room and stuff
In addition to the obvious stone relic, there also seems to be a non-legendary relic you get when you help a pair of rats, called the rat bond. Maybe worth looking into.
Also, it seems like the game can only display a limited number of relics in the corner, since i didnt see at least five relics down there, which you did have at the end when you lost them all.
@DangerouslyFunny If you really want to break the game then get the golden apple, golden popcorn, and seasoned popcorn. Take the potion familiar that looks like a green ghost and get as many rainbow kernels as possible to duplicate gold/food potions in a shop. Then just start drinking all the potions. The golden food will duplicate so much the game will have like 1 frame every 5 seconds.
I don't watch Spiffing Brit, maybe I need to check him out. But DF and Let's Game It Out are my two favorite and the most amazing game buster and breaker or circumnavigator game channels I have ever seen.
You don't have to worry about your gold not doubling while you have the Pilfer ring, the gold only gets sucked in once it's done doubling.
DUNGREED TIP
Wait, so because the spring shoes increases your damage the longer you stay up in the air/flying, you basically get crazy damage increase because you stay in the air with the wings? so the spring shoes effect and the wings synergies together?
RelmerRun
That is correct. Spring Shoes are a 0/10 item normally but become a 10/10 item with Wings.
Krinkels
@RelmerRun ok and what should I do to unlock the wings + that red pickaxe? How you managed to save both the wings and the pickaxe (two items)??? I thought it's only possible to save one item after a run. Also, how many points you put on each skill.
RelmerRun
@Krinkels At the beginning of the run in town I open my inventory and hover over the Wings. It shows the Wings have the additional ability of +1 dash. These Wings came from the dungeon and it took me hundreds of hours to grind for them. I brought them back from the dungeon by always playing with 20 levels in Mystic. During my runs I also added items to the sacrificial altar to build it up to about 75% full. Once I had the Wings I activated the shrine until I got the Red Pickaxe. Once I had both items in town I retrained my stats to 20 Swiftness, 10 Wrath, and 5 Mystic. Then I quit to the title screen and had a save file that I could use to speedrun the game. When I speedrun I load the town over and over again to get the Spring Shoes in the store before starting. This can take upwards of 15 minutes.
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@RelmerRun So you lose the wings after the speedrun attempt?
RelmerRun
@a. UserOfName .a No, I keep all items because I have a backup of the save file that I use for speedrun attempts. After every attempt, whether success or failure, when the attempt is over I restore the backup save file. Doing so gives me both the Wings and the Red Pickaxe back. I hope that answer helps.
Kbye Bleha
RelmerRun Is there no cap to the damage increase?
RelmerRun
@Kbye Bleha As far as I know there is no upper limit. At least I have not found it!
Also there’s a character you have to use -Oblivionwing (use red scythe and upgrade it)
At nine keys, 8-ish bombs, and 2-ish talismans source, (not counting for "losses" mid-doubling), with each item having 64x after doubling 6 times, leaves us with (optimally) 576 keys/key rings, 512 bombs/bomb bags, and 128-ish talismans.
Im in theatre mode so that subscribe button you told me to hit, was a spiffing brit video lol
0:33 back on track... litteraly
Finally. More undermine.
Pilfer ring doesnt reduce the chances of gold duplicating itself when hitting the ground. You cannot pick up gold (or any items) until it hits the ground first, in which the game determines if it should be duplicated or not.
Even if you were to stand right where the gold/item would land, if it was going to duplicate, it will duplicate.
If anything it just cuts down the profit when using the item doubling potions.
Best relic
Hot cross bun
If you keep doubling golden food by also using the drop protein potions you can get a room full of golden food and get max gold in one room
So do the more damage of high health and more damage on low health items combine?
How do you go back and forth betwen floors? I've never used the map dude but as far as I know he only takes you forward.
i dont know why but your voice is so calm
I've done a bit of testing with the Pilfer Ring, and it doesn't seem to stop gold from duplicating. The gold would duplicate regardless of if it was in my ring's range or not.
Imagine if he finds a curse spawning room using this method and changes all those into blessings
I mean, why would you pick up a bun that gives you 2 curses, when you have a room with like 50 free curse removals.
I do see the keyblade a dropping at the end ... but it isn't shown in the bottom left corner of the game where all the blessings and relics should be seen ... I wonder why, normally it's there
Excuse me, but does anybody know the name of this background song (14:25)?
Thanks.
This run would have been even more ridiculous if he had the key blade, that would have added Atleast 100 damage.
There's 576 bombs, 576 Keys, 128 curse removals, i have a Great life
There's at least 128 talismans, 448 keys and 704 bombs. I say at least because it's greater due to the popcorn relic, but just by the potions it at least that.
You should see if someone can make you a mod to make the limit for keys/bombs be 999 instead of 99. Make those double rooms more fun and also see true key blade damage
Isaac and this peasant would go together at breaking the games realy well
hot buns and milk
This is a very epic video
I’m guessing hot cross buns is the equivalent of breakfasting in the binding of issac
DF you should use the gold doubling potion when you use a gold powder bomb on a big rock cluster
512 curse removals, 12822 bombs (bomb bags and bombs) 2927 keys (in total keys and keyrings) your welcome
Bought undermine for myself because of you. no regrets.
keep up the great work
Please do a run of max blessing by stacking curses off alters and then using all those cutse removals
You should do a run were you get a LOT of hot cross buns and has a tank full of health
I counted the amount of items and I can safely say there are at most 7 items
Ben I too am sure that there are indeed at least 7 items. Maybe 8 but that might be too many
Now all you have to do is get all the relics and then a stupid amount of blessings, or a run where you try and win with as many curses as possible
Use the spirit pet you get a crazy amount of potions or use item double on golden fish
Try and see what max damage and health is with blessings from curses from backtracking with the inverter
is the Witche's Brew still in the game?
if DF doesn't know yet it gives you 13 curses per bottle.
with 4 of them that's be 52 curses. with the double blessing that'd be 102 blessings. (I can't remember if stack curses count or not. so might be better to use a item doubling potion like that one in this video to get a bunch of Talisman.)
You started that room with 13 double-able items and 5 non-double-able items
Doubling those items 6 times...
You got around 832 + 5 from the doubling, not including items picked up when standing in that room.
This doesn't account for bombs and keys doubling when they hit the floor from the other relics though
I just thought about the potential hell one could make with the Queen's bomb and Bombushka.
It would be a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.