Just an observation when you were looking for that package and it was right there in front of your face....well, that is a natural phenomenon because you are visualizing the package so your brain doesn't connect when it's right there in front of you staring at it because the image is already seared into your brain cells. The trick is to turn your head and look at the wall and turn around and look for the object again and it will appear. This is no joke, it's something that happens quite regularly to everyone. So when you know you just saw something and then it's gone, look away and then look for it again. It works everytime 👍 Thanks for your videos even though I will just leave my Brompton stock 😀
@@BromptonFamilyTime Happens to me too, and I just look away and the item is right in my face. lol It's almost like the same thing that happens when you leave a room and walk to another room and forgot what you went there for. If you go back to the first room, your brain cells will remind you😁
and heres another tip, you'll need to add spacers on the right side as the spokes will catch on the derailleur, I used 2 titanium black ones that finish it off nicely
How does the SMC plume wheelset hold up in a rainy environment (knowing that carbon wheelset tend to lose more braking power)? Do they perform similar or close to the stock wheelset?
Your right. Braking in the rain requires more distance if wet. You get use to it after a while, but if your riding in traffic you should dry your wheel rim by using the brakes to knock off the water. Stock is much better in terms of braking since you have more agressive brake pads with grooved metal rims.
Hi nice wheels... Just recently got to know your TH-cam channel and subscribed. Could we have the link where we can purchase it? Much appreciate it. Thanks.
i bought a sema wheelset with hub smith ceramic bearings too. The pat screw is actually just a weird screw i used back a normal Ti QR as it was lighter overall :) whats next praxis crankset ? :)
I like the way the pat screw looks so I will use it lol. I am still researching what crankset I want. It looks like it will be either Canecreeks, THM or Praxis (unless I find something lighter than the T Line crankset).
Hi, love you videos. I could watch you ride round the amazing city of New York all day! Just a quick question as I’m thinking of upgrading my T line to this wheelset. Why did you change the cassette and not use the current one on your T line. Are they different? Keep up the good work!
I was just doing research and saw a CHAT button on the speedminicycle.com website. I thought no one would reply back because of the time zone difference, but they messaged right back so after figuring out what I wanted I ordered their new wheel set. Andozza, Joseph Kuosac make nice wheel sets too. I think they are alittle bit more money. Maybe in the future I will try them too. I have seen SMC wheels on IG and their price is reasonable. Brommieplus wheels are awesome too. So many choices!
This is what I would have done if I kept my T-line. However, I did get these for my 2speed CHPT3 and they are amazing due to the fact as you mention they look and sound amazing. Few points : 1. Your front wheel hub is in reverse. Basically it should have the same naming decals in the same direction as the rear. Apologise if you have changed already. 2. I would highlight recommend changing to Swissstop black prince, these have amazing breaking power compared to the third party offer. 3. I was super happy with the ceramic bearings, but I ride mine every day and the bearing lasted about 2 months before they don’t roll as smoothly anymore. - Would recommend changing this to Steel bearing once the ceramic bearing goes. - In the long term it will be more beneficial. But do enjoy these wheelset as much as I have and keep up the great content. If you are going to upgrade anything for your wife bike, I would recommend H&H rear rack and some larger wheels to make it more like a suitable luggage to roll around than always carrying it. Don’t this with my gf bike and she loves it.
Thanks for the information. I have heard mixed reviews on ceramic bearings. My daily commuter is my superlight so the T Line wheel set should last much longer. I will try the Swissstop Black Prince once these wear out. The ones that came with the wheelset work like the stock ones.
I always had the impression that ceramic bearings had good life, at least that is what I read about Bottom Brackets. They do roll smooth though regardless
@@BromptonFamilyTime yeah be sustainable too of course, plus once you do get the black prince upgrade you’ll definitely notice the better stopping power, especially in the wet.
@@StanStrong108 honest ceramic bearings are only really good for pros and probably people who are into TT. Personally it’s just a big marketing scam. The gains you get vs the cost is stupid and for the general public normal steel bearing is perfectly fine.
I haven't studied the market and I prefer quiet driving. Is it possible to have the same solution in carbon, but silent? "P.S." Welcome from Ukraine & Germany
You would need to ask the maker of which system you plan on purchasing. The chain line may not be a good fit and require modifying the frame. You can try and ask Brommieplus since they have been specializing in the Brompton drivetrain for many years.
I was thinking of upgrading the wheels on my bike too… did you find that the lighter wheels and bearings help the bike to roll farther with each pedal stroke? Anything that makes my cycling easier for me I am for! Thanks for the great content!
They feel great but I can't tell the difference (even though I think the newer wheel set is smoother/faster). I am happy with the upgrade. The stock Brompton wheel set is nice so the gains are most likely minimal. They look ten times better though lol.
That would be nice. I do miss having one when I worked on my cars. Until you mentioned it I forgot all about it! I will weight my bike at my friends house because I don't have a scale. I am going to guess upper 15 lbs.
Hi brother BFT, did you change your brake system or you are using stock brakes on your carbon wheel set? I heard that braking power will greatly be affected when converted to ee brake system with adaptors? True?
Awesome Video. Really appreciate the content and the info on tools necessary. I think I might look into these carbon wheels. I'm really curious how light your Brompton is now with all of the Carbon/Titanium components
How much lighter are both the SMC carbon wheels compared to the standard wheels. It seems like 300 grams only. Not much. Even with ceramic bearings, I'm not sure it's worth the price of the upgrade? The SMC wheels look cool though.
The stock T Line is built so nice any aftermarket parts will only be marginal weight gains and/or looks only. This is my dream bike that I have been waiting for a long time so I decided to change out everything.
Feels great. I don't really notice a difference between this and the stock one. I weigh 125 lbs so it may be more noticeable for someone that is heavier.
Hi shu, I’m contemplating on changing to these carbon wheelset too. However I got concern as I am 113kg and I am on the A line. Also I’ve been hearing ppl feedback that the braking on carbon wheelset aren’t as good (more slippery; less grip) as normal wheelset. Is this true?
The brakes on my T Line are just as good as the original brakes. You can get the upgraded brake pads that are suppose to work better if you are concerned, but I am happy with the free pads that came with them so far.
Nice wheels. What made you settle with the 349-CW1-25 even though there's an even lighter option which is the PLUME-349-CW2? I'm interested to hear your thoughts as I'm considering SMC wheelsets as a possible upgrade in the near future. Thanks in advance!
Hi, Shu. Do you have in this video foldable tyres? Because you have installed it so easily. I've been fighting with mine (default) for two weeks now - as a result - two punctured cameras 😂😂😂 It's really very hard to install it back 😢
I just fitted these to my P Line, however you have to use the supplied 4 speed of 1 to 4 of an 11 speed cassette as they use thinner gears, the Brompton advanced will not fit , your wheels featured here must have been changed recently
Question 🙋-> What Tools would you recommend to have, If you want to build on your Bike? What is useful and what just nice looking but unnecessary? 😮💨 had a not so nice experience, thats why I want to do thing on my own.
Great suggestion! I will make a video on my tools in the near future. I think being able to work on my bike has saved my money and time. I just repaired a broken axle on my fixed gear bike and saved $100!
Nice upgrade! Seems like you are aiming to lose every possible gram of weight. In that case, you may want to consider veloplugs (to replace the rim tape).
For the inflation busting price of the T line I would have thought these wheels should have been fitted as standard since Brompton are championing the weight of their flagship model , clearly a mistake you have now rectified .
Brake PAD, not brake shoe "The main difference between brake shoes and brake pads is their direction of force. Brake shoes stop the car by pushing outward, while brake pads stop it by moving closer together. Instead of sitting inside a brake drum, being forced outward onto the breaking surface, brake pads are positioned around a disc called a rotor." In this case, the wheel is actually the disk the pads press on. 😁 Rim brakes are, for all intents and purposes, giant disk brakes 😉
@@BromptonFamilyTime of course I was joking... the reason is that anyone can't buy a brompton... even less a full titanium and even less improve it... we're talking about 7,000 dollars invested in a bike... my wife would kill me... sorry for the comment.
I'm really broke though lol. I am glad I finished building the bike to my liking. Besides maintenance parts I hope I won't need to upgrade or replace anything else for a while. I treat my bikes as cars so they are worth the price for me. I understand they are expensive and even an A line is a serious purchase.
@@BromptonFamilyTime don't worry I understand you perfectly...you have the courage to invest in the brompton...in your passion...the saying where I come from is that the most expensive bicycle is the one that is not used. Greetings and congratulations on the videos, I look forward to seeing you.
Genuine happiness. I ordered SMC Plume red edition for my Brompton Chpt 3 v4. It is really beautiful 😍
I would like a pair of the Plum maybe in the future. They look super nice!
Just an observation when you were looking for that package and it was right there in front of your face....well, that is a natural phenomenon because you are visualizing the package so your brain doesn't connect when it's right there in front of you staring at it because the image is already seared into your brain cells.
The trick is to turn your head and look at the wall and turn around and look for the object again and it will appear. This is no joke, it's something that happens quite regularly to everyone.
So when you know you just saw something and then it's gone, look away and then look for it again. It works everytime 👍
Thanks for your videos even though I will just leave my Brompton stock 😀
Wow, that's a great tip! Thank you :)
Yeah I will try that next time (it happens alot). 🤣
@@BromptonFamilyTime Happens to me too, and I just look away and the item is right in my face. lol It's almost like the same thing that happens when you leave a room and walk to another room and forgot what you went there for. If you go back to the first room, your brain cells will remind you😁
Another way is to point at everything you look at. It stops you scanning over things.
With all that upgrades, a few years later this bike is going to worth millions of dollars.
😳
😆 I was just thinking hes probably upgraded the T line as much as my H6R Black laquer brompton originally cost last year lol
It quickly has been adding up and I am not done! 🤣
No longer a T line. BFT Line.
I love Shokos reactions 😂
😅
You are so far down the rabbit hole now! 😂
So true lol. I can't stop!
I love those Carbon wheels!
Hopefully, I can get a pair someday.
They look great
Wow Carbon wheels ... What a Beauty ! 🤘 🇨🇦 🚴♂
Oh yeah! 🤣 It's nice to look at.
Im looking at your video I’m like oh my gosh they look so good :)
Hi Victor! I love the way they look and sound. The install went easier than I thought it would with a few common bike tools.
Hi . Nice video 👍 … what is the weight of the bike now ? Thanks
I don't have a scale but it is in the 15 lb zone! (stock weight is 17.5 lbs)
@@BromptonFamilyTime Take it into Brompton Junction and ask them to weigh it ?
have you experienced any rattling loud noice when breaking?
None. I only hear the carbon brake pads make a unique sound (you can hear it in my recent videos).
and heres another tip, you'll need to add spacers on the right side as the spokes will catch on the derailleur, I used 2 titanium black ones that finish it off nicely
Like Christmas morning 🎄🎄🎄
🤣 So true!
Did you remove the reflective strip from the tyres? I can't find these tyres without reflective ring on
Yes, I couldn't find the non reflective ones either. I have a video on how I did them.
@@BromptonFamilyTime saw your vdo and did the same thing now! thanks for such great vdos on Brompton!
You went with the CF round wheels
I changed them 👍
How does the SMC plume wheelset hold up in a rainy environment (knowing that carbon wheelset tend to lose more braking power)? Do they perform similar or close to the stock wheelset?
Your right. Braking in the rain requires more distance if wet. You get use to it after a while, but if your riding in traffic you should dry your wheel rim by using the brakes to knock off the water. Stock is much better in terms of braking since you have more agressive brake pads with grooved metal rims.
got the same carbon wheelset with red color hubs...very light
Nice! I am happy with the look and sound! I'm sure your set looks nice.
nice wheels I went wit the Suncord 7 speed carbon wheelset the one that has the ridges
Nice those wheel sets look nice too.
Hi nice wheels... Just recently got to know your TH-cam channel and subscribed. Could we have the link where we can purchase it? Much appreciate it. Thanks.
They are a new wheel set so you have to go to speedminicycle.com and hit their chat button. They will tell you how to order it.
Thx for the video! Does P-Line also share the same stock wheels as T-Line?
Off the top of my head, they should be the same. They are nice and light.
i bought a sema wheelset with hub smith ceramic bearings too. The pat screw is actually just a weird screw i used back a normal Ti QR as it was lighter overall :) whats next praxis crankset ? :)
I like the way the pat screw looks so I will use it lol. I am still researching what crankset I want. It looks like it will be either Canecreeks, THM or Praxis (unless I find something lighter than the T Line crankset).
@@BromptonFamilyTime wow nice choices . By the way , for the wheelss why didnt you go for SMC Plume super light ?
Plume cost alittle bit more so I went with this set.
Hi, love you videos. I could watch you ride round the amazing city of New York all day! Just a quick question as I’m thinking of upgrading my T line to this wheelset. Why did you change the cassette and not use the current one on your T line. Are they different? Keep up the good work!
They are the same. I kept the original wheelset intact to have as a backup set for emergencies.
@@BromptonFamilyTime Great thanks, did you buy them directly from SMC? I assume they come from china. 👍
I bought them direct from SMC. They do have a dealer network so you may find them closer to your location.
10:18 Spare parts are a necessity. Nice recovery. 👏🏻 Weight saving is one $ per gm. Congrats on getting torque wrenches.
Thanks 👍
When moving to carbon, I thought you needed to also change to disc brakes. The rims brakes work on carbon?
You simply use brake pads made for carbon wheels. They are provided by SMC when you purchase the wheels
They look great Shu
Thanks. I hope they perform as good as they look!
Your T-line looks rad! I just got my CHPT3 v4 and now you got me looking at an upgrade right away.😂
That is a great looking bike. I love building the Brompton just as much as riding it.
Finally! Carbon wheels. One of the major mods.
Any reason why you chose SMC and not others like Joseph Kuosac wheelset?
I was just doing research and saw a CHAT button on the speedminicycle.com website. I thought no one would reply back because of the time zone difference, but they messaged right back so after figuring out what I wanted I ordered their new wheel set. Andozza, Joseph Kuosac make nice wheel sets too. I think they are alittle bit more money. Maybe in the future I will try them too. I have seen SMC wheels on IG and their price is reasonable. Brommieplus wheels are awesome too. So many choices!
In Singapore Brompton carbon wheelset upgrade SMC is the 1st choice.
This is what I would have done if I kept my T-line. However, I did get these for my 2speed CHPT3 and they are amazing due to the fact as you mention they look and sound amazing.
Few points :
1. Your front wheel hub is in reverse. Basically it should have the same naming decals in the same direction as the rear. Apologise if you have changed already.
2. I would highlight recommend changing to Swissstop black prince, these have amazing breaking power compared to the third party offer.
3. I was super happy with the ceramic bearings, but I ride mine every day and the bearing lasted about 2 months before they don’t roll as smoothly anymore. - Would recommend changing this to Steel bearing once the ceramic bearing goes. - In the long term it will be more beneficial.
But do enjoy these wheelset as much as I have and keep up the great content.
If you are going to upgrade anything for your wife bike, I would recommend H&H rear rack and some larger wheels to make it more like a suitable luggage to roll around than always carrying it. Don’t this with my gf bike and she loves it.
Thanks for the information. I have heard mixed reviews on ceramic bearings. My daily commuter is my superlight so the T Line wheel set should last much longer. I will try the Swissstop Black Prince once these wear out. The ones that came with the wheelset work like the stock ones.
I always had the impression that ceramic bearings had good life, at least that is what I read about Bottom Brackets. They do roll smooth though regardless
@@BromptonFamilyTime yeah be sustainable too of course, plus once you do get the black prince upgrade you’ll definitely notice the better stopping power, especially in the wet.
@@StanStrong108 honest ceramic bearings are only really good for pros and probably people who are into TT. Personally it’s just a big marketing scam. The gains you get vs the cost is stupid and for the general public normal steel bearing is perfectly fine.
Wow why did you get rid of a T line 😐 for the chapter 3 Brompton
I have the SMC plume 7 speed on my T line.
I haven't studied the market and I prefer quiet driving. Is it possible to have the same solution in carbon, but silent?
"P.S." Welcome from Ukraine & Germany
I love the noise. If you email SMC they might have a quite hub wheel set. They reply back quick too.
@@BromptonFamilyTime thx
Oh YEAH!!!😀
🤣
What's next? Cane Creek ee brakes or Ciamillo B1s?
Both are nice! I haven't decided yet but I am leaning towards the eebrakes (I may get the Ciamillo for the superlight in the future)
If this was changed to a 7 speed would it interfere with folding?
You would need to ask the maker of which system you plan on purchasing. The chain line may not be a good fit and require modifying the frame. You can try and ask Brommieplus since they have been specializing in the Brompton drivetrain for many years.
I was thinking of upgrading the wheels on my bike too… did you find that the lighter wheels and bearings help the bike to roll farther with each pedal stroke? Anything that makes my cycling easier for me I am for! Thanks for the great content!
They feel great but I can't tell the difference (even though I think the newer wheel set is smoother/faster). I am happy with the upgrade. The stock Brompton wheel set is nice so the gains are most likely minimal. They look ten times better though lol.
How do you like the "ride" with Carbon? To me it is not as comfy on bumpy roads.
The T Line does feel more "sporty" compared to my Superlight but it is also faster.
Nice upgrade! btw what's your crankset? it looks neat!
👩🏻 Hi. We have made a video about it. Please check the link! th-cam.com/video/P7tkXFzVXls/w-d-xo.html
Maybe I missed it, but are the old ones on your bike the factory brompton ones?
Yes they are the stock wheel set.
I think you need a workbench instead of working on the floor. Makes life a lot easier.
How heavy is the bike now with all the upgrades?
That would be nice. I do miss having one when I worked on my cars. Until you mentioned it I forgot all about it! I will weight my bike at my friends house because I don't have a scale. I am going to guess upper 15 lbs.
where did u buy it? ride safe
You can go to speedminicycle.com and use their chat function to talk to someone. It is a new wheel set so it is not listed on their website yet.
@@BromptonFamilyTime thankyou again bft ✌️
Hi brother BFT, did you change your brake system or you are using stock brakes on your carbon wheel set?
I heard that braking power will greatly be affected when converted to ee brake system with adaptors? True?
I am really interested in seeing if the braking will be improved with the EEBrakes. I should have them soon!!!
Negatively affected 😅
Awesome Video. Really appreciate the content and the info on tools necessary. I think I might look into these carbon wheels. I'm really curious how light your Brompton is now with all of the Carbon/Titanium components
I will weigh it soon at my friends place when I have time but it is around the mid 15 lbs area currently.
@@BromptonFamilyTime 😮WOW!
Hi brother, where did you order your carbon wheel set? I can't find the ones with spokes online 😅 do you have the link? Thks
You can order from speedminicycle.com directly. Email them at speedminicycle@gmail.com and they can help you.
Shu, do you feel like flying when you r riding after upgrading to these carbon wheels? And is the bike now less than 7 kg?
This bike feels great. I love the look of the SMC wheel set and I am happy I got them. I will be making an update video soon with the final weight.
speed? are you joining the championship Brompton racing contest?
I would love to see one! It looks like a great event.
How much lighter are both the SMC carbon wheels compared to the standard wheels. It seems like 300 grams only. Not much. Even with ceramic bearings, I'm not sure it's worth the price of the upgrade? The SMC wheels look cool though.
The stock T Line is built so nice any aftermarket parts will only be marginal weight gains and/or looks only. This is my dream bike that I have been waiting for a long time so I decided to change out everything.
Hi, so how’s the rear suspension doing that you got it change a while ago on your t line.?
Feels great. I don't really notice a difference between this and the stock one. I weigh 125 lbs so it may be more noticeable for someone that is heavier.
Hi shu, I’m contemplating on changing to these carbon wheelset too. However I got concern as I am 113kg and I am on the A line. Also I’ve been hearing ppl feedback that the braking on carbon wheelset aren’t as good (more slippery; less grip) as normal wheelset. Is this true?
The brakes on my T Line are just as good as the original brakes. You can get the upgraded brake pads that are suppose to work better if you are concerned, but I am happy with the free pads that came with them so far.
@@BromptonFamilyTime thanks for clarifying!
Nice wheels. What made you settle with the 349-CW1-25 even though there's an even lighter option which is the PLUME-349-CW2? I'm interested to hear your thoughts as I'm considering SMC wheelsets as a possible upgrade in the near future. Thanks in advance!
This was cheaper so I went with this wheel set. The Plume does have a nice design. So far, they feel great.
How much is total weight of the t line again?
The 4 Speed T-Line weighs 17.5 LBS.
It is cool video😉😉😉
Thank you! I just rode 3 hours on them and they felt great. The brake pads too.
@@BromptonFamilyTime Great riding 😆
Hi, Shu. Do you have in this video foldable tyres? Because you have installed it so easily. I've been fighting with mine (default) for two weeks now - as a result - two punctured cameras 😂😂😂 It's really very hard to install it back 😢
Yes I have foldable on the T Line. They are super easy to put on and off.
@@BromptonFamilyTimeMay I know if your Folding Tyres are: Schwalbe One HS 462A (black, foldable)?
Wow
How many grams total after everything's upgraded. (Including all the videos so far.)
I'll have a video out soon with the final build.
I just fitted these to my P Line, however you have to use the supplied 4 speed of 1 to 4 of an 11 speed cassette as they use thinner gears, the Brompton advanced will not fit , your wheels featured here must have been changed recently
If you have any problems, please ask SMC. I have had my setup for over a year with no problems.
Question 🙋->
What Tools would you recommend to have, If you want to build on your Bike?
What is useful and what just nice looking but unnecessary?
😮💨 had a not so nice experience, thats why I want to do thing on my own.
Same, I'd love to get some advice on this
Great suggestion! I will make a video on my tools in the near future. I think being able to work on my bike has saved my money and time. I just repaired a broken axle on my fixed gear bike and saved $100!
Nice upgrade!
Seems like you are aiming to lose every possible gram of weight. In that case, you may want to consider veloplugs (to replace the rim tape).
I have never heard of veloplugs. Thank you for the tip. I will definitely check them out.
For the inflation busting price of the T line I would have thought these wheels should have been fitted as standard since Brompton are championing the weight of their flagship model , clearly a mistake you have now rectified .
Maybe in the future they will. It's nice to see Brompton using Carbon and other innovations into the T-Line 🙂.
I would give the tube some air as a first, to make sure it is unfolded, before deflating it again for the rest of the mount.
Surprised you have never fitted a kickstand!!
Brooooo
🤣
Brake PAD, not brake shoe
"The main difference between brake shoes and brake pads is their direction of force. Brake shoes stop the car by pushing outward, while brake pads stop it by moving closer together. Instead of sitting inside a brake drum, being forced outward onto the breaking surface, brake pads are positioned around a disc called a rotor."
In this case, the wheel is actually the disk the pads press on. 😁 Rim brakes are, for all intents and purposes, giant disk brakes 😉
Thanks. I don't remember saying brake shoe 🤣
21:43 - found money for an expensive torque wrench, but did not find 2$ for a 15 wrench ))
That wrench is a vintage Craftsman made in the USA. It have a lifetime warranty and I have been using it for 30 years.
@@BromptonFamilyTime this is not comfortable to work such large wrench
The larger wrench will provide better torque and proper tension than a smaller one. It's a great tool to have.
You have much money😢
I'm out of money!
@@BromptonFamilyTime of course I was joking... the reason is that anyone can't buy a brompton... even less a full titanium and even less improve it... we're talking about 7,000 dollars invested in a bike... my wife would kill me... sorry for the comment.
I'm really broke though lol. I am glad I finished building the bike to my liking. Besides maintenance parts I hope I won't need to upgrade or replace anything else for a while. I treat my bikes as cars so they are worth the price for me. I understand they are expensive and even an A line is a serious purchase.
@@BromptonFamilyTime don't worry I understand you perfectly...you have the courage to invest in the brompton...in your passion...the saying where I come from is that the most expensive bicycle is the one that is not used. Greetings and congratulations on the videos, I look forward to seeing you.
Carbon wheels set may not suitable for downhill
How would going downhill affect carbon wheels?
Great videos. 😀What’s the weight now in Kilograms?
It's about 7 kgs. More upgrades to come!