Finally Some GOOD News About The Crew Shutdown!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2024
- With everything sounding so negative around The Crew recently... it turns out there's some good news in terms of getting the game playable offline!
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Thanks a bunch for mentioning stopkillinggames! While The Crew more than deserves to be saved, what we're doing will go towards stopping this sort of thing from happening in the future in games like NFS 2015, TDU Solar Crown, we're trying to challenge the legality of the practice outright. The law on this practice is not settled at all outside of the USA!
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Potresti per favore salvare anche need for speed most wanted 2005 e need for speed underground 2 ?
let's goooo!
@@drdany1549 nfsu2 and most wanted r still playable just pirate the game on pc
The only online only racing game in recent memory that received an offline patch at the end of its life is Gran Turismo Sport. GTS has a lot of single player content (GT League), and if you buy a used GTS disc, you can access this portion of the game just like any other racing game. I know this because I'm playing through the GT League as we speak. So, it can be done. I hope the same thing happens with GT7, once it enters its end of life because it's another "online only" game that has a ton of single player content along side MP racing.
5:40 Not a lawyer but in Germany, if a software you pay for isn't supported anymore by the creators it effectively becomes abandonedware. And if abandonedware breaks you are allowed to fix it yourself. It gives legal ground to modify a program that you don't have intellectual property to. Revoking our licenses is them covering their ass so that they can sue people that run public servers.
Although, since the server will be a black box reverse engineer I don't think they'll have the legal grounds to do that anyways. It will make it a lot harder to get the game files tho...
Shout-out to anyone that participated in recording their play session communication. They are the reason this will likely be quicker to reverse engineer than most people think. Definitely not like Lego universe...
Not a lawyer and as far as i know Abandoneware is not legal in Germany. But you certainly wont get in trouble for that, because the license for that software is held by nobody (since companies split or just stopped existing) or companies would need to take a lot of money and do a lot of research if they would want to f* with you.
"a copyrighted work whose rights holder can no longer be traced"
"Despite constant efforts within the scene to reach agreements with the software companies or to influence the legislators in order to get out of illegality, such plans have not yet been seriously tackled and the operators of abandonware sites continue to act in the knowledge that they are infringing copyright law"
It is a lot more complicated that that, but in short. No it is technically not allowed to publish abandoneware.
EDIT: "In Germany, the Copyright Act and, where applicable, the Art Copyright Act are the relevant sets of standards that regulate, among other things, the right to reproduce and distribute works." This is the legal ground for abandoneware "Urhebergesetz und ggf. Kunsturhebergesetz."
EDIT 2: Or you meant just fixing it for yourself and not publishing it, then it would be in a gray zone i think.
Considering how heavy handed that country is with piracy, that's refreshing to know they're more sympathetic when the software becomes abandonware
Another reason to despise IP laws
@@HSG4meRI respect piracy laws and goodness of fair use, but I despise the DRM law. Apple made it an excuse to sue people who repair their devices. And I think car companies did as well.
Man, that middle finger was personal. I understand 😅😅😂😂
Funniest part of the video😂😂😂
It isn't the manufacturers we should be disappointed at. It's the game publishers. If there was an offline mode, we wouldn't be talking much about this
5:53 The AUDACITY it takes to suggest we "check out the store for our new game" is unfathomable! Mr Krabs wouldn't even consider such judery! Fuck I'm surprised that clicking the deactivated Crew 1 doesn't just open a direct link to the Crew Motorfest's store page lmao
Imagine you are driving past the car dealership you bought your car from and the owner T-bones your car and says, "Well, hey, at least you can buy another car from me; yours was getting old!"
don't give them any more ideas
This should be illegal .
@@saintdesire8700We're not trying to, just giving each other ideas on what could potentially happen.
@@TheSilverShadow17 im only joking
Funny thing is that, from what I remember, you can lose connection mid-race on singleplayer in this game and it will allow you to finish the race before it attempts to reconnect back online.
Yes, because it "pings" the server once you've done something or want to do something. Everything that would normally require saving or reading your savefile needs an internet connection because your save file is stored on their servers.
When the Servers shutdown you could still drive around in the car you were in no problem, but once you wanted to start an event or change a car or anything it kicked you to the Boot Screen with the Error.
Like what happens in Need For Speed Rivals?
@@RAM_845 Rivals is offline?
@@Hushio-Hero Last I checked it requires to be online to play.
@@RAM_845I've been playing it offline my whole life. Edit, just found out NFS2015 and World are/were the _only_ online-only NFS games
I still play old nfs like most wanted ,pro street, underground 2 . stealing a game that you paid your actual money for should be illegal
The thing is we all sign for this with the EULA same thing happened with Warzone 1 they shut down the servers so any skins you bought was essentially deleted
@@dandreurquhart3511 they only shut down warzone you can still play mp on MW19, cold war, and shitgaurd with all the skins you bought
Agreed, I still play old nfs like prostreet, shift 1,2 most wanted 2012. Im glad forza with exception of fm8 hasn’t went down that path. And gran turismo giving sport an offline patch.
Let’s hope one day, games surpass needing to pay licenses.
And to think that Don Mattrick is to blame for this shit show happening.
@@Game4LordWhy ? And who's that ?
@@Game4Lordwho that?
@@chrls.1093 CEO Of XBOX
That can never happen with racing games,
Kinda fitting how the "internal voice" of Gordon Freeman, (Context: Accursed Farms is the dubber of the "Freeman's Mind" series.) is trying to save video games. And this all started from a video game with a protagonist who looks like Gordon Freeman.
You aren't wrong there, it does seem fitting indeed
Wait! Does that dude do half-life content? I'm gonna check it
I always thought the protagonist looked like season 5 Walter White
Go back to offline play games need to be a thing again
nfs luckily only did this with two games but it kinda sucks cause i actually enjoy rivals and 2015, hope ea try to save it but knowing their track record im not expecting nothing
ong im sure people are gonna disagree with me on this but in my honest opinion games should require an offline mode that way people can enjoy their favourite games even after servers shut down
@@WANDRRR Or at least design the always online games in a way that they can easily patch them to have an offline mode when shutting down servers
@@WANDRRR I can't think of a single reason as to why anyone would disagree with that. It's just common sense if you want the game to last forever.
@@adgefreeman6091 Exactly, especially when you are giving the company money, it's just a really messed up legality thing that we all need to petition to be changed
Honestly
People (you too, theo) should stop supporting Ubisoft altogether.
Because this shit shouldn't be a thing at all
For the mere fact that Ubisoft sold themselves to a "woke" company, such as Sweet Baby Inc., is very telling, & it shows! 🤦🏼♂️
With the partnership he got in motorfest? doubt
Do understand that every game will die like this one because of the dumb licensing with the music and cars which is very dumb and we can't do anything about it other then complain
For the fact that Ubisoft sold themselves to this w*ke company, Sweet Baby Inc., is very telling, & it shows!
@@RCCrawlerz209 URRR WOKENESS
You have no idea how happy I am to hear that modders have made at least a little progress on making the game playable. I wish them success on their journey on making the entire Ultimate Edition game playable. Man, imagine the mods that people will make.
Car manufacturers are cows for doing the stuff they do. From going electric to making game devs pay for licencing 🐮💀
Not just pay, but pay BAJILLIONS of dolkars, making it imposible for indie devs to make games with licensed cars!
But on flipside, the ones with unlicensed car tend to stay on market *STRONGER* since there's need to worry about license expiry.@@sanderhackerhd8369
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@@sanderhackerhd8369 This is why I like CarX's cars lol. 99% of the likeness accuracy without giving a dime to the manufacturers
This and abandonware sites are godsends for those of us who want to play older games like TDU 1 and 2, and the older NFS Games. It's a damn shame I can't just pay to get a legit, working copy on pc when it would be so simple.
2:53 You know this is bad when Jesus fucking Christ comes back to talk about it
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I find this licensing deals so bullshit, they only apply rules like this to games, because THEY CAN. They insert a music piece in a movie, or a car brand, it's fine 30 years later on.
Licensing in films is different from games
Nah, licencing is a reason to delist a game but not to make it unplayable. It's entirely up to ubisoft to shut down servers, release an offline patch, etc.
a lot of the time that's not still not even true with music though. you'll find in a lot of movies and tv shows that later re-releases and streaming releases will have licensed music taken out and replaced with stock music.
Well there some indie games that ball to copy a model of a car and rockstaar GTA radio system were. We can play our own music
It sucks. Maybe they could re brand the cars with fake names, maybe change the look of them ever so slightly and you have your unbranded spoof cars. But I guess that means effort and care. I would totally play this game with fake cars.
The thing is that Ivory tower doesn’t make the decisions when it comes to if The Crew lives or not, this is on Ubisoft. The studio can add an offline patch, but that is if Ubisoft allows this, and I don’t think they will.
Oh please. The devs are just as guilty for not having the fucking balls to stand behind their consumers and say no.
I don’t think it’s that possible because the game itself is foundation is based on a live service model. Which I would imagine would need to be recoded which then requires money. I think the game is now.
@@Game4LordNo, thats not really most of it works.
Polyphony had the decency to release an offline patch for GT Sport
And you get Ubisoft who got enough resources to pull the online service offline and being anal of taking the games away from the library
Pantha: "Anger doesn't help, be kind"
Also Pantha: "F...U Car Manufacturers"
Ubisoft still has 100% legal right to give 1 last patch to the Crew that would allow offline-single player
Licenses only stop them from SELLING the game and its microtransactions
Server shutdown only effects online-play
The problem is as long they don't see a financial reason to make that last patch they are fine leaving the game dead.
Yeah I always thought it was weird the game company has to pay to then show off their cars, sounds, style, ect... so not only do they can advertisement of their vehicles but they also get paid for them advertising their vehicles.
Racing games aren't just games for people to drive a car but it's also advertising them because there's cars that speak to someone, I myself love the mitsubishi Evo X (from MW ik questionable liking but custom design not blacklist) but these games not only bring people into certain car communities but why bother they'll just get the file after it goes through 9 different hands (Ford v Ferrari reference)
Not only cars in media make me like them but also music. I am a huge fan of Bullet For My Valentine, Avenged Sevenfold and Celldweller since I played Most Wanted and made them tons of money with merch and concert visits. It's free advertising for them and if there has to be a license fee at all it would have to be an infinite one and not one that can expire. Game preservation is non-negotiable!
Preservation applies to Most Wanted as it can be played via piracy.
It's just not sold anymore, and they still don't make PS2/X360 games anymore.
@@luckaswolf You are right and it should at least be listed on Steam since many more people would be able to still play it and would be willing to pay for it still.
The sad thing is, u can see the sadness in theo's eyes when he talks about the crew. 😢
9 hours bro till your summit can’t wait the only problem tho is It starts at like 4 in the morning in the uk
A note for any fellow Canadian citizens, the one for Canada isn't up yet but the site says they'll give an updated link once it is.
Even Midnight Club LA was shut down too and it is ridiculous.
thing is, Midnight Club LA allows you to play the single player part of the game completely cut off from the internet, which unfortunately games like The Crew, NFS 2015, and upcoming The Day Before Solar Crown just lacks in that department
meaning that regardless if you even own physical copy of the game or not, good luck trying to get past the "unable to connect to servers" message even if you're just wanted to play the single player part of the game, because you can't
@@adlibbed2138the thing is that the game is no longer in the Playstation Plus.
Another thing that baffles me, cuz he brought it up, is in game licensing such as media or in this case car brands. If a company pays anyother to use its brand in their product, that Initial transaction should be it.
It blew my mind that rockstar had to update their 15 year old game to remove some music. That needs to change. I would never expect someone to pay me for the rest of their life because they had something I made in their product.
Wait till you hear Škoda is coming to GT7. Hell yeah
Wait seriously?
@@dustojnikhummerjust some stupid Vision gt
@@dustojnikhummer yeah,they are showing the VGT tomorrow. Yeah its a VGT but they might add more of their cars eventually. And it elecrtic and AWD btw
IMSA supposedly also partnering soon
Wy can’t they just ad Koenigsegg to gt7
The only online only racing game in recent memory that received an offline patch at the end of its life is Gran Turismo Sport. GTS has a lot of single player content (GT League), and if you buy a used GTS disc, you can access this portion of the game just like any other racing game. I know this because I'm playing through the GT League as we speak. So, it can be done. I hope the same thing happens with GT7, once it enters its end of life because it's another "online only" game that has a ton of single player content along side MP racing.
Dev side I think this is only way to fight piracy
We need to champion offline content over everything else, we need plenty of things and mods to do with the game, because for always-online games, there will come a time where they will stop functioning for good, not all of us play online, and we just want to enjoy the cars and world with AI opponents endlessly however we like for infinite amounts of replayability no matter where your interests lie, without heavy reliance over online.
You know, seeing the pants man flipping to the camera, the thing is actually quite serious
He's not wrong tho, most degradation that we have in games (say like reduced damage, for example), car manufacturers have role in this, cuz they don't want their car to be damaged, although it's just a virtual place
I love when they say that we gamers need to start to accept to "not owning our games". MY DUDE, IF I DO NOT OWN MY GAME, then it isn't my game. How am I supose to own something that isn't mine?!
Thats why we see a lot of people who only play old games. They were good, offline, and in fact ours.
There are pretty good modern indie games ;-)
Well nostalgia aside times are changing as well as media in general gaming specifically is now on a dark path like always online why if you are gonna kill them atleast make them offline before taking down the servers damn what is wrong with publishers and devs in general
Publishers are money hungry but are quick to cut corners or losses in spite of the customer, and Devs “need to eat” meaning they either have no balls and not enough of them are willing to stick up for themselves and others in the industry, they co sign these type of ideas or they are simply just not concerned about the consumer, they make the game cause their boss says so, ship it and could care less outside of that
I'm happy you're raising awareness about this campaign, we need more racing game creators (or gaming content creators in general) talking about this.
We should not let Ubisoft get away again
thank you for talking about this issue, hope the message gets far and wide!
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Awe bru! I'm from Cape Town
Gauteng 👍🏾
Glad you sharing about this :))
For The Crew 2, I hope we will at least get a way to save our pictures. And even better if we get an official offline mode
Great vid, super happy to see you covering the campaign and the TCU project!
I think Unite-boys can help with an offline patch for NFS '15 in future
ALL OF THIS 📯 Thank you for being one of the voices on this matter, Panthaa.
🎉Fix our Games! We buy it and that makes it ours !!!😮
Thank you for talking about that topic
I learned about your channel thanks to ´The Crew’ and I was even lucky to play with you many years ago on that game! Thank you for supporting the community ❤
Need for speed rivals also has a problem where the DLC cars are an online only content, once the server shut down, you can't access the DLC cars.
2:44 If The Crew was playable offline, the others 2 licensing problems, wouldn't exist.😶
The car license issue is a quite a big issue
this is why the 99% of old games are unable to play unless you buy a CD copy for fricking 79$ or pirating
To be frank, I was a little afraid you weren't going to talk about this because of your association with The Crew Motorfest and Ubisoft, but I am really glad that you did. Your a true saint for promoting this campaign, mate. Cheers.
You really miss something when it's gone...i need those long trips from city to city with the atmosphere, amazing day/night cycle etc.. we need this masterpiece back ASAP.
You will forever be one of the single most important TH-camrs of all time because of what you do ❤
I'd like to confirm that yes we the French know how to make things done with our government, but we got our own Thatcher ta its helm currently. And they're not really listening at all unless we are a big company. The farmers got nothing, only nestle and other agri-food companies, or last year we got fucked hard even though we were on strike for four months to protect our retirement pensions.
As a French I can say : OUI ON GUEULE, ON FAIT GRÈVE, OUI ON FAIT CHIER LES ENTREPRISES, ET J'ESPERE QU'ON FERA RÉFLÉCHIR UBISOFT AVEC L'AIDE DU GOUVERNEMENT !!!
Always online games need to have an offline mode, it's a must have.
Fun Fact for you Theo: Generally in europe (speaking for italy now), since TC1 got abandoned and revoked from licensing, we are legally allowed to fix the game, fuck the licensing file to make the game think it's licensed anyways, and spread the "new game" and to call it YOUR game, like Counter Strike was a modded Half life, and it's a standalone game. But yeah, the whole game would have to be different (that does NOT include car models or driving physics in this case)
Woah, getting into the menu is actually huge. Really hoping that’s the main barrier overcome now, and more progress to follow!
Surely developers are pissed with this stuff too. Why would I want to put time and money into making stuff when after a while it becomes lost media at the snap of someone's fingers? At least with other delisted games you can still play them offline.
All i'm gonna say about that is : " All of you should've seen it coming when the developers, back in 2010, adopted the "all online" mentality "
That idea was going to turn bad for a multiple reasons.
Glad to see the game getting a sort of revival like NFS:World did, it will take time but i certainly want it to succeed 👍
This happened with Star Wars Galaxies for those that remember that. A bunch of people coded their own servers
The crew series and Nfs 2015 deserve to be offline
nfs 2015 is one of the best "newest" NFS games.
@@Exetasiaother than the garbage physics, its a massive W
Excuse me?
@@FranquitoMV2004 the graphics were way too good for a 2015 ps4 game
@@Exetasia it's not worth it. Heat was awesome, on the other hand...
I laughed hardcore at the tweet Ubisoft made a while back. 😂
Ubisoft: "People need to get comfortable with not owning games."
Twitter user: "If buying is not owning, then pirating is not stealing."
"Pirating" was never stealing. 🤦♂🤦♂
Even if the developers themselves have stopped considering their product as a commodity and making a profit from it, then gamers have every right to create unofficial servers.
TC was the only exception, but 99% of games that contain third-party content can be accessed anyway regardless of who originally purchased it or not.
Not to mention that console games stop being sold regardless of licenses, especially because they no longer manufacture PS2/PS3/X360 games
This reminded me when NFS World died, EA shut the game down and the community worked hard to have community servers and reanimate it.
But in this case Ubisoft demonstrated to be the bigger asshats by making sure most people can't access the game, because making the files completely inaccessible from their launcher is one of the biggest dick moves I've seen.
people would just pirate the game and ignore Ubisoft Connect entirely ;-)
Haven't touched Motorfest since they announced the closing of the Crew 1. Kind of demotivated me to make any progression tbh.
I feel the same. Tbh I wish it was mandatory for offline patches to be released because I honestly Motorfest will eventually get shutdown
Me too. I will demand a refund both Motorfest and TC2.
(I don't care if TC2 is too old to get refunded,i'll fight for my money.)
would be cool see midnight club LA online again cuz da servers works even online 's mind blowin'
I never managed to beat this game. It's nice what the community is doing, but I don't have a PC so I have no way to play this game (not that that's any different from everyone at the current moment in time). I did watch your video on the game, seemed like fun.
As a French, I really hope that this massive action will have an impact
I'm pretty convinced that the DGCCRF and UFC-Que Choisir will do something, that's on their interest
Another day waiting for code to compile at work, another pants man video!
Did you know bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum?
Very cool video black panthaa
If happens with NFS 2015, they know what are gonna do
if i had a racing game like this, i'd make a license-free backup design for each car, music and whatnot in the game, and when the license ran out, i'd replace everything with original fantasy designs, and a custom sound track, just to let the game keep on living. if racing tracks require licenses too, then chop off all that do and include a simple track editor. there
What Ubisoft did is scummy.
Let's hope we save the crew
Done for the uk , remember when this game came out , loved it
in some way it´s a shame, but you know that the internet starts "preserving games". it´s only a matter of time until you can emulate/ crack everything, especially a game with that mainstream success and that prominent history
i mean The Crew was the first of its kind its practically a Racing MMO and like all MMOs once they out live their cycle its a no brainer to not waste money and team resources, and it makes even more sense for the crew since they are on their 3rd game
Then they should've made The Crew playable offline like Polyphony did with Gran Turismo Sport when it reached end of support
then why make offline mode in the first place?
there's proof for offline mode being in the game already, they just had to turn it on
instead they didn't care to pull the switch and people now have to crack the hashes to make it work for them
Huge respect to you for not letting this go, even though Ubisoft put you into their new game.
If anything it makes me wanna fight more to preserve the game 😂🫡
Thank you. Servers should go peer - to - peer rather than be taken offline.
What an amazing Renaissance era for this, I'm willing to see the outcome.
Once again, it's up to the community to save The Crew or any other game. Ubisoft couldn't care less unless it reports them even a cent of profits.
YoU CaN't buILd mE A CaR ThEN tAKe iT oFf mE- Same vibes as Razor ngl
The car licensing thing doesn't make sense because they still have licenses from these brands for their current game so there's no reason they can use that license to keep the classics online
Facts, my dude! Spit your stuff indeed!
Tomorrow blackpanthaa in motorfest
this will happen to NFS 2015 as well, its pure online, same with Rivals, Heat on the other hand has offline mode what i really appreciate
Rivals was cracked since it came out in 2013 and it's playable offline. Only 2015 is always online.
@@akiplay312 oh fair, i wasn't sure about rivals, but yeah 2015 is kinda fucked
@@CrustStarGaming not so much. I think it will be cracked as soon as the servers shut down if ea doesn't make an offline patch. Fans are really talented.
@@akiplay312 very true
@@akiplay312the dlc cars are stuck online
I’m not sure, but you can correct me, if I was wrong.
It is in their favor to delist it as each download while the game is inaccessible is costly to them as I read about this long time ago each download does cost some money for them.
It cost a VERY small amount of money them.
All websites are fine if you download something. But not Ubisoft xD
This is the most braindead move I have ever seen done in a business market, they just shotgunned themselves in the foot. Who will buy Ubislop products just so they would lose it one day? I know I wouldn't
I've been saying this for almost 10 years: Games are one of the best advertizing platforms that a manufacturer can wish their product to be shown on.
When i saw the title i was like this in my head: Cptain slow: Good news!!! Clarkson: What?!?!??
3 weeks and Ubi is still silent about the whole situation.
Never giving my money to Ubisoft again
Let's do this
I remember playing a server emulation for nfs world before they made the online private servers it even had a few mods...
Not only Car Manufactures that cause the games to be delisted. But for Driver San Francisco it was more because of the Car Manufacturers yes, but also all of the licensed music, Billboards and random sights in the game also.. Some times even voice acting also.. But it seriously needs to stop applying for video games..
One thing that SERIOUSLY Drives me crazy is Publishers/ Developers that don't future Proof server based games to just patch it to no longer need to check for a server to play the game fully.. Should be Illegal for games to be made to only just be completely locked out..
I really hope this works out.
Sir Theo at it again ✌️❤️
If Ubisoft doesn't go through with the Offline patch then there will probably be a line of burning Peugeots outside their HQ, also making sure this goes into parliament will be a good way of showing the public what's going on, imagine if you made it onto BBC News 😂
What's really irritating to me is it was the online element that I liked least about the first Crew. They didn't allow you to block other players from your races, so I'd be going through story mode getting rammed off the track by other players and having to rerun.
5:23 agreed but it may take roughly 6 months to a year
One day you will be deleted by the crew…
And then your bio is going to say.
“Partner with game developer Ubisoft. Black Panthaa was cannon in the 3rd installment of the franchise. Before it got delisted. Now he remained partners with a company that has just delisted the crew 3.”
You really want that stain on your name? You have the chance to say this! YOUR IN THE GAME. You need to start making a big deal of this. It’s more than just a petition. Make a video titled “why it’s a shame I’m in the crew” or something do something to get there attention.
I remember people complaining about The Crew when it came out but now look at it, a game that people said was "bad" is what banding us all together to stop things from this happening again
I enjoyed The Crew personally but im so happy that bad things like this brings everyone together from all parts of the community, I hope us gamers win and stop this from happening in the future
please send this to every car factory