THE END OF AN AMAZING SERIES | Chernobyl (HBO Miniseries) - Part 5 - Vichnaya Pamyat Reaction Part 2
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Whats sad is that a lot of people think this show is about "nuclear energy is bad". Its not, its about what happens when the truth is kept in the dark, when our leaders lie, and what those consequences would be.
Yep. I also think the show shows that while the RBMK reactors had a fatal flaw, it shows how an absolute astonishing amount of things had to go wrong for this to happen
Nuclear energy itself isn't bad, it might be the most power/ecology efficient way of creating energy. This miniseries beautiful shows how socialist mentality works - if you ignore the problem, it will disappear.
Well, that's not the takeaway that I got. It was poor design of the reactor, in-experienced and untrained (for the test) employees, terrible instructions to run the test, terrible management and finally, the inability to speak truth to power in the USSR. I do have a huge problem with nuclear energy. It is the nuclear waste. We (in the US) have tons and tons of nuclear waste that is still not properly stored. I watched a really good YT video on what the Fins are building to bury nuclear waste. The video brought up a lot of problems with EVER being able to really SECURELY store nuclear waste for the length of time it needs to be stored (thousands and thousands of years). I think we are leaving a terrible nuclear waste legacy for future generations and the earth itself.
Ragnarok well it wasn’t the human factor that was wrong with it, it was because of the way they were designed (VERY cheaply) using graphite on the end of the control rods not because it is a good material to use but instead because of how cheap it is, this is why no over countries around the world at that time apart form the USSR used graphite tips
@@pavelh756 the truth is that nuc. energy in many countries is heavily subsidized by taxpayers thus no efficiency at all. the most clean way to make electricity these days is burning natural gas - 100% clean and safe, power generators can be installed locally thus decreasing transmission losses.
Legasov told Shcherbina they had about five years to live, though neither made it even that long. Turns out it was the Soviet Union itself that only five more years to live after Chernobyl.
One more fact about Scherbina : in1988 he led rescue works after big earthquake, in Spitak, contrary to the system he managed to attract many foreign rescuers with modern special equipment, and saved more lives, while his own was tiking out
It's not just a bug. It's a symbol of life. For Shcherbina, after seeing the death and destruction it was a poetic fresh breath that he enjoyed deep in his heart. And yes the symptoms and health issues may be a little dramatized but the following years he suffered a lot from problems with his dying immune system that was destroyed due to radiation.
exactly, the fact people dont see that leaves me disappointed! people are blind to whats infront of them
THANK YOU!
and that bug/caterpillar was improvised on the spot. Neither the bug nor the dropping of the card nor the mic replacement were scripted.
@@brachypelmasmith Mic replacement? Do you mean where the soldier moves the mic closer to Legasov? Of course that was scripted, why on Earth would a lowly extra leave his position to do something he was not directed to do?
no, it wasn't scripted, at least not according to director in podcast. They placed a mic too far so they sent a sound guy (who was dressed in style so they could sit in the audience/scene) to bring mic closer without ruining the whole long take.
Legaslov, Boris, all the team of scientists, the miners, the 3 men who opened the drain valve, and those that cleared all the debris, are all heroes to humanity. There actions literally saved millions of lives. And it's a total tragedy that almost nobody knows who they are. Until this show, that is.
There should be statues erected in their honour.
JamesHLanier Yes indeed, that was reported at the end of the series. Still, amazing bravery, when yo think everybody thought it was a suicide mission
Or at least, that's how it was depicted in the show. It is a drama series after all, so there is bound to be poetic license applied from time to time. For example, the helicopter crash isn't quite accurate. I believe it collided with some structure a few weeks later, so it didn't just fall out of the sky due to getting too close to the radiation as depicted.
The scene of the reactor exploding is . . . It's like witnessing the birth of some dark, twisted God. Some Lovecraftian deity tearing its way into the world to spread death and madness.
Oddly enough one of Lovecraft's short story's (which was influenced by the newly discovered X-rays) was about a force that can pass right through people like an X-ray but cause them to fall apart, he predicted ionising radiation 20 years before it was first generated.
@@krashd 'The Colour Out of Space'. It blighted the land, caused mutations, drove people insane . . . Yeah.
It's the music. The composer did a great job
That's when Future Trunks first became super saiyan bro.
Just an interesting side note: Howard Lovecraft dreamed of becoming a professional astronomer, but lacked the mathematical skill. He continued as an amateur, very interested in the scientific news of his day. The potential dangers of radioactivity were suspected as early as Wilhelm Röntgen's experiments in 1897. It's to his credit that Lovecraft published his prescient "The Colour Out of Space" fifty nine years before the Chernobyl disaster.
So yes, "some Lovecraftian deity tearing its way into the world to spread death and madness."
"It's a bug crawling on your finger." IT'S LIFE!!! They've been dealing with so much death and ugliness, that to see something like a caterpillar that represents life and transcendence is absolutely beautiful to them! These men are dying but their actions will allow others to live on! THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS!!!
"Every lie incurs a debt to the truth."
Six guys were sent to prison for chernobyl, I believe there were 7 people in the control room and at least a dozen people in the plant, and about half survived. However what happened with Legasov was that he didn't spill the beans at the trial like was shown in the tv show. He spent the next 2 years trying to get the attention of the central committee in order to facilitate reform. However, he was passed over by the central committee, and because he knew things about the system and the imperfections within that caused chernobyl, he was passed for promotion, passed for awards, he became a minor celebrity, however his celebrity status destroyed his career. Being stuck as a prominent figurehead of intellect, being called in for expert analysis and holding up the propaganda of the soviet union with all future events and tv shows, he basically had nothing left to give in life.
Fun fact - Legasov wasn't a nuclear physicist, he was an inorganic chemist, he just had a prominent position at the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, teaching Molecular Physics. He was just available at the time to be dispatched to Chernobyl, which... according to the dispatcher... didn't need a nuclear engineer, because it was simply a fire on a tar roof.
So we can say... of all people they suddenly chose 2 really good men
(well i not mean there was only 2 of them, but you understand)
@@arecestravi Well the thing about Shcherbina was that not only was he on the central committee as well as vice chair of the council of ministers, not only that but basically founded the Siberian Energy Industry, but he was also Ukrainian. So really, there was no better candidate than him.
You missed the bit at the end where it says that the Soviets never added to their death count since the accident so it's only 31 people.
its cold war stuff, usa also hid a lot of things with thier nuclear testing, now look at cancer ratings in usa too.
@@NostalgicMem0ries A nuke is not the same thing as a nuclear reactor exploding.
@@Napalm38382 k
Actually, that's the amount of people that died during the 36 hour period of the accident. And the soviet record hasn't changed because the Soviet Union no longer exists.
@@localshithead7430 They existed 36 hours after the accident. :p
Your reactions to this series have been so enjoyable and I'm excited to see you do The Terror! Thank you for making these videos :D
Oh wow, a Terror reaction would be great - it was my favourite series ever before this came out! I love your reactions so much, I can't wait to see it!
One thing they should have added to the credits is on September 20, 1996, then-Russian president Boris Yeltsin posthumously conferred on Legasov the honorary title of Hero of the Russian Federation for the "courage and heroism". People should know that he is not a "forgotten hero" anymore.
Such a bubbly personality and your reactions made me subscribe! Keep up the good work and enjoy!
That room he's waiting in @ 6:10 is more than it seems. That room is where people were once interrogated under Stalin's rule. The floor drain makes it easier to clean up all the blood and other waste.
davidsirmons I would crack just from having to look at that wallpaper!
You are adorable! I loved to watch your reactions, this series truly moved me and I am pleased to know younger people love the history and take the time to look this stuff up to become better educated on the facts. I will be subscribed and am looking forward to seeing your future reaction videos. Keep up the good work.
Band of Brothers reaction!
Sherbina in that episode remains me of my grandfather. He was a soviet functionary, harden by the years of being in the "system", but he was a good men at the same time. A man with a keen sense of justice and his own opinion.
*warning, some coolstory below*
Outwardly, he was a fierce Communist.
But he constantly went around the rulings so that during the crisis people in his collective farm would have a salary in real money, and not in barter. He went against orders again during Prohibition, when it was ordered to cut down vineyards with rare grapes. What would kill half the income of a collective farm and again, people would be left without a salary.
So they hid vineyards with thick corn, and when the commission arrived, they simply showed the same old vineyard in the process of "destruction." The secret was to get commission completely drunk before the inspection))
- Isn't that the same vineyard?
- Of course not. You are not an expert, you find it difficult to understand, dont worry
- Oh, probably you are right. F*ck the vineyard when do we have lunch?
And after our country gained its independence, we learned more and more about the traits of his character, which he was afraid to display for maybe 60 years.
Sounds like the business with the vinyards was the result of a top management decision that simply didn't want to look at the specifics. Then again, when did people matter to a people's republic?
I really enjoy your reaction to this mini series. By the way, the podcast totally worth listening. It is an excellent complement to the show, and provides a lot of information and details that were not included in the final cut.
really loved this show and was great seeing your reaction. : )
I love your reactions to that series. You look pretty clever compared to other people recording reactions to that series. You are only one i seen who tried to study something and not commenting it like watching some stupid fantasy. Greetings from Czech republic.
Great reaction videos for this series! Well done! I would have enjoyed watching this series with you! :-)
“What is the cost of lies?”
-Valery Legasov
I loved your reaction to seeing Lyudmilla having a son. I remember watching the end in a sort of stunned silence (probably a first for me!) but that bought a little tear of happiness. After everything she had gone through, I was so happy for her.
This is the most adequate reaction Iv seen on TH-cam. Thank you.
Thanks for doing this. I have enjoyed these.
The podcast is great. It would probably be difficult to do a react video, but you could maybe make one after listening to them and give your thoughts on them as a whole.
I second the recommendations of The Expanse and The Terror. Season 2 of The Terror is actually a completely different story. It is an anthology series.
Also, apparently there are powerful people in Russia who are not happy with this show and have announced plans to make a Russian Chernobyl show that blames the CIA.
Loved the respectful silence toward the Vichnaya Pamyat :D
Thank u for this beautiful reaction.. I really enjoy it ❤️
"What is the cost of lies?" A LOT. No matter WHAT it is. Awesome series. Awesome reactions ManicMeeks.
U was born and in postchristian culture. This is the only one reason u think it is true.
I love your explanation about where you work!😀 I have really enjoyed watching your reactions to this series. I felt the same way when I found out Lyudmilla had a baby!❤️ I can't wait to see your reactions to "The Terror". And I can't wait to see more pairs of your glasses!
Well, technically, that one died four hours after birth, she was supposed to absorb the radiation but their unborn daughter absorbed all of it instead and died right after being born... but she had that son with a friend because she didn't want to remain childless and also for her husband perhaps, or who knows why else...
Truly enjoyed your reactions/discussions about this excellent series. Especially enjoyed your rant in the end about how it works at your job: a lack of information and then suddenly "Fix the problem". What problem? I didn't know about any problem. "Just fix it!".
Yeah, that's how it usually is, but just on a smaller scale compared to Chernobyl.
Chernobyl was awesome i couldnt help but cry at the end, im a crybaby anyways
But yeah so pleased to hear you're doing The Terror next! The next season is also based on a real life event and should be exciting as well!
I just watched the first episode. I wasn't ready lol not at all. But I love it though! Thanks for watching!
@@ManicMeeks Wow that was fast! Hope you enjoy the rest of it!
I was crying by the end of the episode, it’s really chilling. I’m really happy the firefighter’s wife managed to have the child she desired, she lost so much to Chernobyl.
Im sorry to blow the bubble, but it aint happy ending. Her son is pretty sick, admited into hospital like once every two months and i was left with the impression almost no one is helping her, so she works on the street seling food and she even had problems with the police for doing it, cuz seling on the spot was iligal, so her life isnt
easy.
@@joannativcheva3389 вроде сын умер, нет?
@@Kristinalat I dont thniks so, for as far as i know he is still alive :)
Well, technically, that one died four hours after birth, she was supposed to absorb the radiation but their unborn daughter absorbed all of it instead and died right after being born... but she had that son with a friend because she didn't want to remain childless and also for her husband perhaps, or who knows why else...
@@joannativcheva3389 also, that one died four hours after birth, she was supposed to absorb the radiation but their unborn daughter absorbed all of it instead and died right after being born... but she had that son with a friend because she didn't want to remain childless and also for her husband perhaps, or who knows why else...
Loved your reactions! Hello from Kyiv)
Shcherbina lived for 4 more years after Chernobyl, so the health issues we see in this episode are dramatised. But its very possible he did die from complications caused by the radiation.
Legasov promised him 5 years at first)
there is differents, yeah. But he can be treated well, or there was new medicines, after all he`s not the last person in government to let him die easily.
Medicines really matter. For example firefighters from Pravik charge (the first one with Ignatenko) and plant workers who was hospitalised not to Moscow but in Kiev - survived. All exept one man with critical damage. Because doctors in Kiev had their own opinion how to deal with radiation sickness and luckily that opinion and methods was succesfull.
@@arecestravi Medicine can help to some extend. Moscow Hospital number 6 was specialized to radiation related ilneses.
@@arecestravi "Plant workers who were treated in Kiev rather than Moscow survived."
Sample bias. They obviously sent the severe cases to moscow and the mild ones were kept in Kiev.
In 1987 there was already “perestroika “ and “glasnost “. And KGB was strong but not so much anymore. So they couldn’t punish Legasov openly but there are speculations until now that it wasn’t a suicide . Yes, he was very sick and was in isolation. And he was the only person who didn’t receive any promotion or acknowledgement at that time .
I think they're chanting/singing 'Eternal memory' - I think it's supposed to be generally reserved for saints in the Russian Orthodox Church.
"I needed that" -me talking about the Chernobyl miniseries after the disastrous ending to game of thrones
There is a documentary, a more technical version made by the BBC some 12 or so years ago. th-cam.com/video/p5GTvaW34O0/w-d-xo.html
its not that they didn't keep track of it, they knew, they just didn't want to admit that they messed up that bad.
Valery Khondemchuk's body was permanently entombed under the debris of Reactor 4..........wanted to see ur reaction to that 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
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Loved your reaction to this mini-series 😊👏👌 you should check out "The man in the high castle" next, it's a great show that deserves more credit.
Excited for the Terror! I wouldn't bother with Vikings, it's been pretty bad since ragnar died anyway :/ I would recommend Black Sails instead! It's a fantastic show that deserves all the hype that Game of Thrones got, and actually delivers on its ending 😀
i was about to say the same thing-feel like blacksails might be the best period series
That kind of reactor was cheaper, but also chosen because it could make weapon plutonium if needed.
I live in Bucharest, Romania, 514 miles from Chernobyl. I was a kid in 1986. I remember we weren't allowed to go out and play. Just school and back home. But I had a friend who was still going out. He got sick about two years later and died of leukemia 5 years after the Chernobyl disaster.
That is insane. How old were you? I ask because I have a friend who was 10, and living in Kiev at the time. She was lucky and never had any health problems from it, and moved to Canada in her late teens. (Though she has joked that the radiation is why she grew up to be a freak who got tattoos and piercings, and became a sort of a punk... XD) I can't imagine what it would have been like.
@@neuralmute I was 12
Did you check out any of the news broadcast from when this happened? Yesterday, I found a video from a TH-cam channel called BBC Newsnight where they talk about what they believe happened at Chernobyl right after it happened, & why they think there is increased radiation.
Great historical fiction mini series and movies: The Tudors, The Pacific, anything by Ken Burns, Young Victoria, All the President’s Men, The Winds of War, Patton, Shaka Zulu, Agora, I, Claudius. To name a few.
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is repaid."
It's the new containment building that was finished 2 years ago. It had to be built because the original Soviet built sarcophage was probably going to fail.
There's a part in the end (after the estimated death toll) that states that soviets said only 32 died
Don't know if it's been said or not but two of the three "divers" came out to let us know they survived the killing environment. Surprising!
The firefighters wife who had a kid. Yeah it sounds like a "yay" because she had a son... but no. Her story isnt a very happy one at all. And her son is going to have complications for the rest of his life.
Yes but death is final, whereas life, life is full of possibilities - Tyrion lannister
as far as the death toll goes, you could argue that the incident has a hand in every incident of cancer, especially of the thyroid in france, italy, and to a lesser extend the rest of europe. so the numbers given in the and are probably even an understatement
Season 2 of The Terror is a completely different story and cast of characters from season 1.
Same with the Haunting of Hill House
If you listen to the podcast let us know if you understand why the Soviets, both government and citizens, acted as portrayed in the movie. It was a different time.
Have you ever watched The Man in the High Castle? I'm a history buff too, and World War 2 is one of my favorite things to study. This show is an alternate history. It's based in America in the 60's and it shows what the country is like after the allies lost WW2. So Japan runs the west coast, and the Nazis run the east, and there's a narrow area in between that they call the neutral zone. It's a realistic depiction of what it could've been like had we lost. I highly recommend it! Another fantastic show is Peaky Blinders. It's a fairly quick watch too because there's only 6 episodes per season, and there's 4 seasons so far. It's based in the 1920's in England. Another fantastic show
"The Terror" was originally a mini-series embellishing the story of a real world event. They are bringing it back as an anthology series; season 2 is going to cover a completely different story and a different time period than season 1.
I'm actually kind of pissed about that - I thought it should stand alone as a one off about the Franklin Expedition. The novel it was based on *is* called "The Terror", after all, and one of the ships was named the HMS Terror. But I'm intrigued by the historical setting of the second season, and by the fact that they've got George Takeii, so I might give it a watch anyway...
If you take requests, I would love you to react to "Peaky Blinders", it's well done and based on historical events and on a a gang that really existed. "Black Mirror" if you've never watched it is great too ! Both have. a lot of fans so might bring more people to your channel which I think you deserve because I loved those reactions !
Peaky Blinders is EXCELLENT! Not a fan of Black Mirror though.
It's weird watching these things and seeing what world you are born into. Shcherbina died on my actual birthday, August 22, 1990 - his story ended as mine was beginning...
One thing people seem to want to know is "Who is Anatoly Dyatlov, and why is he such an asshole?"
Well yes, Dyatlov is one of the villians of the story. He's the primary reason the reactor exploded, the secondary being the entire soviet system conspiring to keep critical information from people who actually need it.
However, this is not the first time Dyatlov lost a battle with a reactor.
Born in 1931, he chose to leave home at the age of 16 after graduating 8th grade. (Soviet system, not American, 16 year olds graduate 8th grade and decide if they're going to work or go to college or whatever, based on standardized tests) He went to work at the shipbuilding facility at Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in the Soviet far east. There he began learning the trade of being a civilian contractor for the soviet navy. In the 1950s he took a correspondence course to qualify to work on nuclear reactors and by the 1960s he was part of the team fitting and testing and refueling nuclear submarines.
During his tenure, a criticality accident occurred where he himself was exposed to over 200 Rads of radiation. Subsequently his son died of leukemia, but the Soviet Union did not connect the two events.
After this, Dyatlov changed. He refused to accept failures of his subordinates, he refused to tolerate mistakes and he became known as a man who could get things done.
In 1971, he was transferred from the nuclear shipyards at Komsomolsk-on-Amur and to the newly constructed city of Prypiat in the Ukraine to take a position of management at the Vladimir Lenin Nuclear Power station at Chernobyl.
And the rest they say, is history.
Have you listened to the podcasts on the HBO TH-cam channel / Spotify yet? They feature one of the main people in charge of this series (I think the director or writer) talking about the choices he made in making this series, and things that got left out. Such as scenes relating to the animals in Episode 4. There's one for each episode and they're around 40+ minutes each. I'd love to hear your thoughts on those too tbh. I'd also recommend videos from people like the Ushanka Show, who talks about some of the things missed out that are notable if you want more information on the disaster and life in the soviet union. Generally any channels by people who lived through it, or live in the area are really good to watch. Also interviews from the actual people involved, or other documentaries to get multiple perspectives of the disaster.
In terms of other shows, it's not quite on the same vein but could be good for a series due to having so many episodes with segments in 15 minute parts. But the show Deadly Women could be good to make reactions to? It's an Australian docudrama that shows the acts of many female killers. It's nowhere near as good as this show but again for a reacting series it could be worth looking into, especially if you like true crime but want to stay towards the more dramatised side of things.
I just binge watched all 6 of your Chernobyl videos and I can't wait to see more from you tbh! Keep up the good work!!!
Chernobyl is unbearable pain, a terrible wound that bleeds for 33 consecutive years.
Вечная память погибшим. долгих лет жизни тем, кому удалось выжить.
Where I grew up was 1200 miles from Chernobyl, in West Germany.
For some reason radioactive dust had a tendency to collect in sandboxes, which led to one of the playgrounds in my town being buried under concrete.
Crops were destroyed and open field retilled to prevent a contamination of the food supply, nationwide.
Regardless, there was a spike in cancers, especially if the thyroid, especially in children.
One of the longer lasting contaminants, cesium, is similar to calcium, and it's going to be generations before it's out of the food chain. Right now, the radiative particles are extracted from the soil by mushrooms, which are eaten by boars. The cesium becomes part of their bones. You can hunt boars, but you can't eat them. They have to be disposed as radioactive waste.
But one of the most dramatic images of the "fallout" from what happened that night can be seen in the Ukraine, where they have a special facility for children born with birth defects. It's heart breaking.
Edit: oh, and milk production that year was fucked. 1 bottle of milk contained twice the amount of radiation that a toddler could safely be exposed to in a year.
A lot of people at that time and place didn't really understand radiation. My grandma started boiling everything, thinking that would kill it off, but of course, no such luck.
Also West Germany, near hamburg (in fact, near Krümmel), my father had to throw away the sand of our Sandbox too.
After the fall of the soviet union some countries have done studies on their own citizens who worked as liquidators (liquidators came from all over soviet not only Ukraine). Studies have not shown any increased cancer rate among the total liquidator populations studied though a dose response has been found meaning the persons who was exposed to the most radiation had higher risks of cancer. Only few liquidators ever received large amounts of radiation. The average they received is around the same amount of radiation you would get from being a smoker for one year.
I recommend Twin Peaks for your next Live-Action series.
Funnily enough I think noone in this show actually got a bullet. ^^
One neat detail: the chief judge's seat has the seal of the Ukrainian SSR. Since it's taking place in Ukraine, this is logical. I would've thought, though, that the trial would've been a union-wide affair. Like if a reactor in, say, California went kaboom and irradiated not only California, but also Washington and had consequences all the way up to Nebraska, there'd be a federal court in DC dealing with it, not one in California.
Under Soviet Laws a crime must be tried at the nearest appropriate venue to the crime, Pripyat did not have anywhere large enough but Chernobyl did with it's House of Culture conference rooms.
The ultimate cause of Chernobyl was the hubris of the Soviet Union.
Keeping track of the number of deaths would have quantified their failure in real human terms. The Soviet Union wanted them to die in anonymity to avoid ever having to acknowledge the failure of the system. Your talking about a nation that lost 20 million dead in WW2 alone. Human life was disposable in the Soviet system.
Life is disposable in Russia, period. Just depends whose life it is.
And when Russia went communist, it combined some various truths about that system:
A socialist system leads to a loss of social cohesion, a people's republic doesn't care about people, and democratic republics vote according to their leadership.
Yeah, definitely watch The Terror. It's really good - and Jared Harris is excellent in it (as usual). There are also other really good actors in that show. One thing you said though I wanted to comment on. You were saying how it's a shame they don't know exactly how many people died from the nuclear accident - or were made ill (and are still surviving). I think that is a really hard number to come up with. Sure - you can identify the IMMEDIATE people that were exposed at the plant and died from radiation - but putting a finger on the general public - other than say, "the bridge of death" (where the people from Pripyat were watching the fire) - is very hard. Say people in the Ukraine died 1 - 30 years later from cancer. It is very hard to say they got the cancer from Chernobyl. Maybe they would have gotten cancer anyway - ? I'm sure there are some types of cancer that make it much more likely it was the result of radiation fallout - like thyroid cancer (but people get thyroid cancer without radiation fallout too) - but other types of cancer? Who knows?
Good reactions.
If you have Netflix I would suggest 'When They See Us' its an amazing docuseries about the 5 teenagers convicted of the central park murder in 1989. It shows the story of what happened to them also Oprah Winfrey does an interview with cast, crew and the exonerated men. I love these sort of things as they give you so much more in site to the stories that what we originally knew
Watch The Hot Zone... It's based on a true story as well and Liam Cunninghamis in it! only 6 episodes
If you enjoy historical tv series, you should definitely react to HBOs "Band of Brothers". It follows a single American parachute company through World War 2. It's a miniseries like chrenobyl. Only 10 episodes so it would be easy to do also there's not many reactions of it on youtube. Would love to see you do that one.
I loved "re-watching" Chernobyl with you and your reactions! So many of your thoughts were echos of my own the first time that I watched it. I also became super fascinated with the history and how much of it was true, so I totally know how you feel. You did such a great job on this! Congrats on the 1K subscribers (as of right now, it's 1.9K!) -- you totally deserve it!!
Thank you so much! If you have another show suggestions, I'm all ears!
You should watch the video Chernobyl 3828.. you'll see why.
2:13 Legasov: “they may as well of had fifteen days.”
“They did”
Me: What are you talking about
Allergic to cats...Loves Black Panther...
Sees the weirdest looking Mickey Mouse...Looks like the weirdest looking Mickey Mouse
I’d love to see your reaction to the movie Deepwater Horizon, starring Mark Wahlberg, Kurt Russell, John Malkovich, Dylan O’Brien, Gina Rodriguez and Kate Hudson.
Probably the most sobering stat is that it will be 20,000 years before radiation levels will be at safe enough levels for humans to live in the area again.
Have you been to 22019 and verified that? Because you really can't say what anything will be like in 20,000 years unless you have a time machine. In 1800 they thought the planet would be uninhabitable by the year 2000 thanks to Smallpox...
Rob Fraser Considering that when it first happened, liquidators could only tolerate 90-second shifts, the fact that children being born today are STILL affected by birth defects due to radiation, I say it’s a safe bet. Add the fact that they had to build the first sarcophagus in a rush as well as the fact the current dome is built to last 100 years, and it further supports the fact.
Rob Fraser There’s also the fact that since 1796, there’s been the Smallpox vaccine as well as the advent of modern medicine. There’s no way to protect against radiation in the same way. Those who live close to the Exclusion Zone are at a high risk from cancer and leukemia.
The reason they showed Mickey Mouse was because it was a foreshadowing how he told the truth since Mickey Mouse is always honest
This episode was the most dramatized. The actual trial was very dry, as you would expect. Other than this though, and the one character.. Pretty much that's all what went down.
It was at around the time of Chernobyl, support across North America dissolved for nuclear power. Much safer prototypes had been tested in the mid 80's through to the early 90s, and all of it was sidelined in the wake of this disaster. They're beginning to pick them back up now, because of the need to find carbon-free energy.
Fukushima did the same for Germany, though they went a step further and started shutting down nuclear plants in 2011 and re-opening coal plants.
@@krashd I had read that, it's interesting though, the similarities between chernobyl and Fukushima. It seems like they both had essentially the same reason for explosion at the hardware level. Obviously there wasn't much operators could do with the flooding. Better safety measures could easily have prevented that event though. The CANDU design, from what I've seen, is a much better system in terms of safety.
Greetings from Ukraine, people. Due youtube reccomendations, I have found those reactions and I see a lot of you were really worried and now know more about that horrible disaster. Let me say, as a man who researched problem of nuclear powerstations and their influence on environment. I live in 18 kilometers from the closest powerstation and in case of same disaster, we may have same consequences and thread was an actual. For 10 months me and my friends every single have measured a radiation power around powerstation and I can say there is no reason to panic.
But we must remember a price of a criminal silence, a lie, negligence and inresponsibility. Many lives has been lost, more has been irradiated and their lives are in danger now and furthermore, deseases caused by radiation are can be inheritanced to our future generations.
Several interesting facts:
1. our lucky 50%. There was no sense to make a mine under the reactor. Melted fuel has been stopped by self in the lower floors and formed into well-known "elephants foot".
2. Son of Lyudmila Ignatenko is alive, but...disabled, he has an asthma. This is result of 68 Roentgen radiation dose.
Band of Brothers is a beautiful example of near perfect cinematography, acting, scoring, and visceral storytelling. It also has no small number of historical inaccuracies, not least is that the replacement system for front line units on constant deployment tended to result in accidental integration. As the show progressed this unit should have gotten (admittedly incrementally and slightly) less white. Also the cast should all look like college sophmores by the end of the series - motherfuckers were YOUNG in WWII, even compared to Vietnam. Wars are not fought be grown-ass adults, wars are fought by teenagers.
... which is another thing Chernobyl got right: age range. WWII movies should show 18-22 year old American GIs fighting 14-17 year old German infantry but it turns out no one wants to watch kids slaughter each other. Chernobyl, more people were older and more experienced, which adds to the tension, callousness of some, the impact of the youth of some characters, and the horror of others going along with being a human sacrifice in spite of knowing what it means.
93,000 deaths? That’s not great but it’s not terrible
Well sorry but technically, that one died four hours after birth, she was supposed to absorb the radiation but their unborn daughter absorbed all of it instead and died right after being born... but she had that son with a friend because she didn't want to remain childless and also for her husband perhaps, or who knows why else...
Can't wait for The Terror.
The show is really creepy.
I hope you're not afraid of deep waters.
Not sure if you've seen this, but the Discovery Channel did a documentary called "Zero Hour: Disaster at Chernobyl". It was made in 2004, and we've learned more about what happened since then, but it is still fascinating to watch: th-cam.com/video/cJUssWx1AwE/w-d-xo.html (unfortunately, the subtitles are not in English, but the narrator speaks English).
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The saddest story which got me was Khodemchuk,the pump engineer who was entombed under debris under reactor 4,never to be recovered.Reactor 4 is his eternal tomb.
Nah, they will find him while dismantling the reactor and likely give him a burial.
In reality instead of the dramatic version in the show. Legasov was agitating in private that these reactors had a design flaw and needed to be fixed. Many of his colleagues turned on him because they didn't want to admit they made a mistake and people in the central committee weren't happy about how much he revealed in Vienna and were trying to screw him. The Soviet treasury didn't really have the money to fix it so they decided to do a show trial and force out some ministers. He made a suicide attempt while in hospital getting treatment for radiation sickness. Then went on trying to bring attention to it before his second attempt which succeeded. That is when enough people finally admitted the problems.
Legasov was a true believer in Communism. He is portrayed as more of an outsider here, it was only after Vienna that he became disillusioned.
they all were true believers in communism because they were indoctrinated with it from kindergardens and had no other books than communist approved crap. And you had no chance to make a carreer not being communist party member.
She had another child but he is not healthy from my understanding.
Well, that one she was pregnant with died four hours after birth, she was supposed to absorb the radiation but their unborn daughter absorbed all of it instead and died right after being born... but she had that son with a friend because she didn't want to remain childless and also for her husband perhaps, or who knows why else...
It was a really good show... although it sort of reminds the public to be afraid of nuclear energy in a time where we need it more then ever in order to stop global warming and all the pollution that is currently in the world.
More like "be afraid of cheapskates making nuclear reactors." Nuclear energy relies on physics that's min-maxed to the point of being cosmic horror. Not only are many of the elements themselves toxic, but they change matter around them through either ionization or transmutation. That requires heavy, redundant and expensive protection. RBMK reactors cut a lot of corners and didn't have many of those redundancies that are found in western reactor designs. Even with Three-Mile Island, the corium didn't breach the reactor pressure vessel, let alone the building itself.
That’s not a Mickey Mouse, I think it might be a Cheburashka. It’s a somewhat weird looking Cheburashka though!
Do listen to the podcast, as the writer details the fictionalised elements, of which there are a lot in this episode, for good storytelling reasons.
lawrencegough No, there was the actual photo posted in social media, and it was really Mickey :)
Really?? Weird to get something so American. Still, I’m happy, as otherwise it was one weird looking Cheburashka!!
Muksis?
It said here that this could be a cause for USSR collapse. But it wasn't the incident itself. It's how it was handled. Ask anyone about it in Ukraine and people will complain the most about 1st of May parade. They could have said to people to stay at home at least but no - they went on with the parade. And all population of Kyiv was on that parade. In USSR you either in parade or you watch it on the streets. And that included local party officials who got so pissed at Moscow for this so when an opportunity presented itself to claim Independence they supported it. 3 million people got exposed just in Kyiv alone on that day.
Why are black girls so awesome?))
The mini-series full of rough assumptions.
ratchet ass reaction lol keep hooding !
Congrats! You ruined the best scene
Vikings really should not be watched after season 3. Ivar is a miscast and a joke, if you cannot even walk, you are nothing in medieval age. The Last Kingdom, on the other hand, depicts some interesting events in some very authentic setting. Season 2 is somewhat boring and a dumb plot with dump villains, season 3 is good, waiting for season 4.
Annoying
i usually like reaction vids but your were ruining Chernobyl for me.