FRANK ZAPPA - "THE ADVENTURES OF GREGGERY PECCARY" (reaction)

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  • @SightAfterDark
    @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you liked this, be sure to check out our Frank Zappa podcast!
    th-cam.com/video/qyOpmQ7p-DA/w-d-xo.html

  • @pjm311
    @pjm311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You guys are going deep with Frank, it’s great to see. Yes, this one is definitely a cartoon for the ears (and a thought provoking and fun story). The music is absolutely insane yet it makes sense somehow!

  • @barrywilson1294
    @barrywilson1294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Who is making those new brown clouds? Billy the Mountain. And a mountain is something you don’t want to fuck with.

    • @SalamaSond
      @SalamaSond 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never thought about it before this, but I wonder if "Billy the Mountain" might have been an absurdist take on the inertia of innocent stupidity.

    • @CliffordLake
      @CliffordLake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And don't fuck with Ethel.

    • @barrywilson1294
      @barrywilson1294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SalamaSond When it came out in 1972 there was still conscription in the US and I was personally looking into Canadian citizenship at the time. I always imagined the song had something to do with the anti war anti draft movement and Billy and Ethyl represented that.

    • @jamespuleo3269
      @jamespuleo3269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You saw what just happened to that guy with the flies ....

  • @richardwissing954
    @richardwissing954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Who else but Frank can make you laugh with really good, intense music. Who else would even try. As a little kid you are introduced to "Peter and the Wolf" to instruct you on the instrumentation and emotion of an orchestra. This is that .

  • @paulfenwick8767
    @paulfenwick8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    cartoonesque/orchestral/seemingly off the cuff lyrics but often quite deep/great musicanmanship and compositional qualities/fun/humour/lots of genres mixed, sometimes being played simultaneously/conceptual continuity (Billy the Mountain). All this and more. Frank does more in this one song than many famous big bands did in a whole career. Without the aid of drugs. His mind was awesome.

    • @adamnealis
      @adamnealis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @soup n old clothes The English psycho, who thought he was "looking at his girlfriend"?

  • @markdavis7345
    @markdavis7345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    probably the greatest composer of the 20th century...

    • @bwana-ma-coo-bah425
      @bwana-ma-coo-bah425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      with out a doubt!

    • @Peter-K
      @Peter-K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      definitely, not probably

    • @allotrope2978
      @allotrope2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely, along with Philip Glass.

    • @reidwhitton6248
      @reidwhitton6248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      FZ stood on the shoulders of the giants who came before him. Ravel, Bartok, Varese, Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen. Ligeti, Xenakis, Penderecki, and Takemitsu. To his credit he loved and understood their language and contributed to modern music with his own superb compositions.

    • @Peter-K
      @Peter-K 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reidwhitton6248 that's the story of humanity isn't it? Aren't we all building upon what our predecessors did? True artists take what is there and transform it with their unique signature, hopefully laying the groundwork for the next evolution.

  • @wowwhywow
    @wowwhywow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    By The Way..... I'm not sure but I THINK that you guys are the ONLY guys on youtube to sit through this 26 minute long masterpiece. It takes a certain amount of respectable patience to sit still and listen to that much heavy concept stuff for so long... it's true that the complexity is disguised by a Cartoon feel... but it's a thin disguise. When it get's serious... it's fucking serious. So if I'm correct... you're in a group of ONE. Which is pretty cool... I think.

  • @thomasvieth6063
    @thomasvieth6063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    More than 40 years ago I lent this record to my English teacher for comments. He said that his family forced him two wear headphones, and even his teenage children couldn't stand the "dreadful noise". My teacher, though, faithfully listened to it and gave me his honest opinion which was not at all dreadful. I guess that is why I still keep him in a good memory

  • @rappidog
    @rappidog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    during the solo in Inca Roads, Greggery Peccary is in the claymation sequence by Bruce Bickford

  • @Frankincensedjb123
    @Frankincensedjb123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Pieces like this truly set Zappa apart from the crowd. It's generally a rock opera mockury with a considerably sophisticated, non-repeating story and orchestration. It's also interlaced with jazz, rock ditties, and musique concrete. Zappa makes musical references to Herbie Hancock's Chameleon during the "very hip young people" section, John Cage when they have their radios tuned to different stations, even refers to the TV show My Three Sons during the honky-tonk piano section. Not something you're going to go to often, but it's certainly interesting for a few go throughs.

    • @bubblerap7176
      @bubblerap7176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, it's a weird piece, like Billy the Mountain. They should do Thing Fish. That would blow their minds.

    • @dago87able
      @dago87able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, something YOU’RE not going to go to often ;)

    • @adamnealis
      @adamnealis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bubblerap7176 Are they ready for Briefcase Boogie?

    • @Frankincensedjb123
      @Frankincensedjb123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bubblerap7176 I'd love to see their faces as they watch Thing Fish. 😄

  • @davetothebeard
    @davetothebeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This song was originally an orchestral piece. The story popped into his head and he made something pretty good of the union of the two. BTW Billy the mountain has his own song ala this one. It’s on the album Just Another Band From L. A. It’s also long but with a more rock feel.

  • @ganazby
    @ganazby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The music is astonishing, but I’m laughing very, very hard, I can assure you. Sped up vocals, serial classical music, pop culture, etc. He was so on it. Thanks for even considering this musical marathon.

    • @ganazby
      @ganazby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @soup n old clothes I did, of course!

    • @ganazby
      @ganazby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @soup n old clothes I think the record artwork is great, even if Frank didn’t approve.

  • @davetothebeard
    @davetothebeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You two looked bewildered when the song ended. Speechless! We get that a lot in Zappa land. 😂

  • @lucianocatarin9176
    @lucianocatarin9176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This Is pure,pure,pure Genius,thanks sooooooooooo much my friend Frank Zappa soooooooooo great musician and composer and a very,very,very special man, greetings from Treviso Italy

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greetings Luciano! Glad you enjoyed!

  • @williamiagrossi7382
    @williamiagrossi7382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Frank never thought of his group as a band, they were an orchestra, Frank would be found several times during a show with a little baton conducting his orchestra, all of the comments are from true and loyal Zappa fans. Keep on digging there so many great works.it would take you my lifetime to hear it all. I'm 68yrs old been listening to Frank since 1966. Enjoy the trip.❤️👍👍👍

  • @GoodCorporateRobot
    @GoodCorporateRobot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hahaha you did it! I love the silence at the end. You are officially nearing the bottom of the rabbit hole but you’re not there yet. Billy the Mountain is like a sister song to this. Way to be so open minded and find something to enjoy. I loved it!

    • @adamnealis
      @adamnealis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Studebaker Hawk!

  • @josephlewis8148
    @josephlewis8148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love watching both of your expressions! As a life long Zappa fan, I feel like I’m rediscovering many of these songs all over again. Bring on Billy The Mountain! Thank you!

  • @paulfenwick8767
    @paulfenwick8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You mentioned Frank's compositional ability. This was just one side of one album that was originally to be released as a 4 album box set (later released as Lather) and to complete his contract with Warner Bros. They wouldn't accept it, and released 4 seperate albums , most compiled without Frank's approval, to keep Frank tied to Warner Bros. That's why you got that narrative on Titties and Beer about the Warner Bros legal dept, lol

    • @buddygripple7512
      @buddygripple7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you really dig into the history by looking at contemporary Zappa interviews, it turns out that the separate records came first and were re-edited into Lather after Warner Bros had rejected them. Frank had dropped off the masters for Zappa In New York, Studio Tan, Orchestral Favorites, and Hot Rats III (which was renamed Sleep Dirt by Warner Bros) at the same time, which the suits took as him trying to try to get out of his contract quickly by submitting four rush jobs. Of course, that wasn't the truth, as they all hold up very well as albums. Frank sued them for breach of contract and signed with Mercury/Phonogram and only at that point did Lather come into being.

    • @paulfenwick8767
      @paulfenwick8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@buddygripple7512, from Frank's own mouth, they were delivered to Warner Bros as a 4 album box set and already, so Frank said, called Lather.
      If you really dig deep into the history by looking at contemporary Zappa interviews, you would know this, lol. Check this link out then maybe an apology for trying to show someone up is in order! lol. th-cam.com/video/5KFwtbI9NUE/w-d-xo.html
      Have a nice day.

    • @buddygripple7512
      @buddygripple7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulfenwick8767 "Warner Bros. [...] released one album called Live In New York, and they just released another one down there called Studio Tan, and they have two more albums that I delivered to them, Hot Rats III and Zappa Orchestral Favorites. [...]
      Läther was made out of four albums. Warners has released two of them already and they have two more that they're probably gonna release." - Frank Zappa interviewed by Keith Elshaw, CFNY, Toronto, Canada, October 2, 1978

    • @paulfenwick8767
      @paulfenwick8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@buddygripple7512, lol, pity that because in December 1977, Zappa, on KROQ radio, Frank brought in the 4 albums, which he encouraged listeners to tape for free which he himself called "Lather"
      Also, if you've ever seen "Baby snakes", filmed Oct 1977, a fan sends a note to Frank, which he reads out "Play some Lather". Either that fan was a visionary, lol, or, for Frank, "Lather" already existed!!
      Doesn't matter what Warner Bros did, isn't this about what came first, Zappa creating a quadrouple album called "Lather" or what Warner Bros did.
      Lather came first. Just move on and get over it, lol.

  • @rowlflikes944
    @rowlflikes944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes Ruth on percussion and George Duke on keyboards.

  • @ganazby
    @ganazby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Frank said it was a “cartoon for the ears.”

  • @paulfenwick8767
    @paulfenwick8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The brown clouds is reference to a track from the 1971 "Just another band from L.A. album where one side is Billy the Mountain, a mountain that one day decides to collect the royalties from all the picture postcards that have been sold with him in it, lol.

  • @wowwhywow
    @wowwhywow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HEY GUYS...Here's another conceptual continuity...THING. On the album cover ABSOLUTELY FREE..(.the second album by FZ)... if you look carefully... there is a small red volkswagen rolling down the street with one word written above it..."Vdnn!!!" That album is from 1967... this album is from 1978, and a large part of this music was the music played during the Petite Wazoo shows (in 1972 and 73 )and also appeared in an abbreviated version with Jean Luc Ponty... however... ALWAYS instrumental, and in fragments... this is the one place where all the elements of Greggary Peccary finally came together how Frank saw it in his mind.
    Frank said for many years that THIS was his favorite piece of music that he ever made.
    Iwas very happy watching you guys react to this... it's a looooooong song.
    Pretty sure it was Ruth, and George Duke on Keys AND Walt Fowler on MOST of the horns. And now.... someone MUST request Billie The Mountain... WHICH WILL PREPARE THEM FOR fillmore live 71

  • @whodoamb
    @whodoamb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Check out ;Just another Band from L.A. b side Billy the Mountain

  • @bzbzob
    @bzbzob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh man! One of the best thing ever, especially as a kid without tv after midnight!! Thank you so much.... Our bass player used to whip out the "Brown Cloud Theme" in the middle of songs at least once a gig, and we all would wait for it! This whole album, hope you get to it all, personally, I think my favorite, which is a huge thing to say in Zappa'a world. Much appreciated!

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed the video Robert! It was our pleasure!

  • @Sortirai
    @Sortirai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 61 and I've been listening to Zappa since I was 15. At the time of my passage to the net 2003 I threw myself on all that Zappa and others, made available. I would have liked to choose and where to laugh the archives from. Music tracks are very important to me.

  • @trevorb6
    @trevorb6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We have got the answers to the things that might bothering you. We have got your little toys, we're busy making them, busy making them, just for you." - Big Swifty

  • @zappafan012
    @zappafan012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The music was originally going to be the soundtrack to a piece of animation by Bruce Bickford that was never finished. Bits and pieces of that animation have turned up here and there on various other Zappa video projects, especially in his 1979 concert film Baby Snakes.

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That makes sense! Would’ve loved to have seen the finished product

  • @johntabacco
    @johntabacco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "The Eons Are Closing!" The Adventures of Greggery Peccary is most definitely a Zappa conceptual continuity masterpiece.. FZ played this (a different version no less) on WPLR (Connecticut) in 1975 and said it wasn't the kind of tune you'd want to do the dishes to. Nonetheless, this commercial rock station did play all 20 minutes of it and as a kid of 14 listening to this work thoroughly blew me away. And I loved Warner Bros. cartoon music! It's interesting to note that on the version played in 1975 there was extended "Philostopher" dialog that went in tandem to the musical events happening from 18:10 - 20:07. Don't know why FZ took that out. It really added to the clap trap of some guy trying to sell you on registering for some philosophy class. In fact, it was originally Quentin Robert DeNameland greatest living "two headed" "philostopher" known to mankind. Pretty wild, imaginative composition. FZ worked on the music for a bunch of years eventually solidifying most of it in 1972 (as it was played live with his Petit Wazoo Band). Here is some more background on it: th-cam.com/video/3Y-BkmZdjo4/w-d-xo.html

    • @johntabacco
      @johntabacco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bookhouse Boy Unfortunately it is not.

  • @raymullett6571
    @raymullett6571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This piece belongs more in the realms of avant garde classical music with references to some of his early works like "Big Swifty" and "Billy The Mountain". Jst one more lengthy Frank Zappa masterpiece. Looking forward to more and more of your reactions to Frank.

  • @ethanrundell6562
    @ethanrundell6562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I first heard this one I mostly found it kind of overwhelming but it’s really grown on me. FZ was originally interested in being a classical composer, and this song in some ways feels more like a classical piece, but made easier to digest with all the cartoony stuff - plus some jazz elements too! It really feels like a very ambitious mixup of different genres, which is in some ways what zappa’s music was all about exploring

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely!

    • @bartdehaan-yf6em
      @bartdehaan-yf6em ปีที่แล้ว

      He was without a doubt a classical composer and will be taught in the music schools of the near future

  • @vrankholland8113
    @vrankholland8113 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been listening to Frank since the early seventies and he always is my go to muscician and composer. During watching your videos I noticed that over the years I started to get a bit blase about his music. Seeing your reactions and hearing you talk about his music relighted my fire. I can not thank you enough for that. I'm rediscovering my hero one vid at a time

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for watching!

  • @mattgraff1907
    @mattgraff1907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You two are a gift. I look forward to everything you're doing. You seem to get his stuff without any orientation to the time, too.

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Matt! Glad you like the videos!

  • @timcardona9962
    @timcardona9962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That silence was priceless LOL
    My favorite part is the jazz-waltz in the middle, "Thiiiiiiis is Big Swiiifty's" which was originally part of an older piece called "Farther Oblivion" that you guys would love. Frank was fortunate enough to play these pieces with larger ensembles on a few occasions, most notably the Grand Wazoo tour from 1972 featuring a 20 piece band!

  • @Ferretbomber
    @Ferretbomber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Frank was so pissed that WB screwed with this collection and split the 4 albums into separate releases - some with cover art Frank didn't approve before printing and release - that he went on an LA radio station, played all 4 LPs and encouraged people to record them and not give WB their money. Prince was not the first performer to think WB sucked. There's a live album from like '78 where Frank just plain says 'WB sucks'. This is a great song though, I love it.

  • @pedrozappa
    @pedrozappa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved the silence after the hearing. ;)

  • @bartdehaan-yf6em
    @bartdehaan-yf6em ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "establishment" got kicked in the pants ,again. Classic zappa style

  • @TommiBrem
    @TommiBrem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, work had begun on a claymation movie for this with Bruce Bickford. A couple of scenes were completed and have found their way into various movies, like the car chase scene, the pile of transistor radio exists, as do the hippies with their LSD eyes, Greggery himself exists, too. But it never got finished. Sadly.

  • @leoscone4036
    @leoscone4036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For yourselves you should watch "200 Motels". It isn't really suitable for first listens unless you do the whole thing, so just treat yourselves. I mean, you get Keith Moon in a nun's outfit and Ringo Starr acting as Frank Zappa. And the London Philharmonic Orchestra. Best "road" movie ever.
    But, if you want another long story song similar to this? "Billy The Mountain". An absolute classic.
    And then there's "Thingfish", his "off-broadway" production. Heh-heh.
    Blessings.

  • @andrewmantle7674
    @andrewmantle7674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve always considered this a song for hardcore Zappa fans. You seem to be assembling a nice collection of them here on your TH-cam channel.
    I love this piece but apart from my wife I’ve never been able to get anyone to sit through the whole thing with me.
    You guys did well.
    For a nice contrast to this, you should flip the vinyl and drop the stylus on Lemme take you to the beach. I’m not a dancer but it always makes me wanna get up and move.
    Keep up the good work and like most others are saying,
    Bring on Billy The Mountain.👍

  • @tixximmi1
    @tixximmi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many times people are amazed in Genesis recording Suppers Ready. Greggery Peccary was just 2 years later.
    At about 5:20 they sing about "Big Swifty and Associates" from the Waka Jawaka album - even get a few measures of Big Swifty. At 7:00 Zappa even wrote the strikes for the 3 typewriters. And "Who is making these new brown clouds", 16:30 was another example from the album. Billy the Mountain at 12:30 from Just Another Band from LA. The Toads of the Short Forest. Yet another reference from an earlier album.

  • @Ferretbomber
    @Ferretbomber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt Groening of Simpson's fame loves Zappa. Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull was heavily influenced by Zappa. George Duke, Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, you could keep going. Albums with Tina Turner singing back-up? Frank is going to go down as one of the greatest cultural icons.

  • @altohippiegabber
    @altohippiegabber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still enjoy watching Dan's spot on Zoolander facial expressions as they listen to Zappa😙

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol he wishes he was Zoolander!

  • @rikpeol3612
    @rikpeol3612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It takes 100 years of life to get an idea of ​​the notes Frank was putting on paper at that time. "Music comes from composers!" (FZ).

  • @pilesovinyl
    @pilesovinyl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved your reactions. You definitely wouldn't want this to be your first Zappa reaction. The fact that you have listened to a wealth of his material prepared you for this experience. Pray continue. Love you guys.

  • @CliffordLake
    @CliffordLake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the most purely Frank tunes of all.

  • @bobholtzmann
    @bobholtzmann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's hard not to smile at this story. And the horn section is very overwhelming, in a kind of Grand Wazoo way. Enjoyable little radio play. There's more to enjoy from this album, with instrumentals only in "Revised Music For Guitar & Low Budget Orchestra" and "Redunzl" (with more of Ruth's marimba!).

  • @nehcivil3001
    @nehcivil3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of this was instrumental music for the Wazoo (Great and Petit) outfits in 1972. So he toured with this music. This is not either group, this is Bruce Fowler and Ruth Underwood and others a few yrs later, I'm not sure when these sessions occur. I think it would be parts of it over years, actually.
    Studio Tan was released behind FZ's back, it's hard to know what happened, no liner notes.

  • @T23000PLUS
    @T23000PLUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "It's a movie for your ears"---F. Zappa

  • @drimblewedge2789
    @drimblewedge2789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frank heard Close To The Edge and said, “Oh yeah, I can do that!”

  • @jabu003
    @jabu003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    congrats to your patreons.... they have been slowly preparing you for this Adventures.........

  • @wwestern99
    @wwestern99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the Frank albums that I had in my collection. I have listened to this in the triple digits. Something about it kept me coming back again and again and again. You may find yourself remembering parts of it and thinking I want to hear this again. And again and again.

  • @charleschadwick8042
    @charleschadwick8042 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it's possibly his finest piece!

  • @ETBrenner
    @ETBrenner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep, I would call it a "tone poem," a classical music term for an orchestral piece that is meant to evoke a story. Frank was into a lot of contemporary avantgarde classical music (I always hear echoes of Stravinsky and Prokofiev in this piece - but tempered with a bunch of Frank-style musical joke-stuff). As for cartoons - some of the claymation clips that turn up in some of Frank's videos/films illustrate actual bits of Greggery Peccary - like the car chase for example - I believe that clip shows up in a live performance video of Inca Roads that I *think* you reacted to at some point. Cheers!

  • @eddiedoyle3607
    @eddiedoyle3607 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when I got this album and the best way to listen to this track, you prepare yourself to do nothing, and make sure your alone, and of course you must have a very good stereo system, at approximately 40 percent of maximum volume, make sure you are straight ( no alcohol, etc) and totally relaxed, and if you have the opportunity, try the original vinyl ( or the zft cd release) when starting the track, sit comfortably still in a comfortable chair 💺, and listen all the way through, and don't do anything while this is playing ( don't even have a sip of water like Dan does during these videos) just let yourself experience this track, but you must use focus, in order to hear the music and the developmental stages of the piece, if you follow all this, you should feel exhausted by the end, and that means you absorbed it all, ( I forgot to mention that I close my eyes for the entire piece, it is optional, but I feel more high doing this) afterwards you can ponder everything for awhile, my personal favorite thing to do after listening to this masterpiece, is to go to bed and sleep, frank was the best

  • @dirksellhorn6193
    @dirksellhorn6193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys just made my night.

  • @yodel_diploma2315
    @yodel_diploma2315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so many references... i liked the little "the who"-piano-quote (26:56 - i think from "tommy").

  • @mickyart
    @mickyart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yessssssss!! Thumbs up already clicked.... I'm sure it will be awesome!
    Take it away Frank!

  • @songsmithy07
    @songsmithy07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One cannot fully appreciate the section about Billy the Mountain, maker of the brown clouds, without having heard "Billy the Mountain" from the live "Just Another Band from LA" album featuring Flo and Eddy. It's another cartoon adventure for the mind that just goes to show, and it will show you once again, that a mountain is something you don't want to fuck with

  • @williamnichols429
    @williamnichols429 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're curious about the Billy the Mountain reference, check out the Just Another Band from L.A. album.

  • @Peter-K
    @Peter-K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As great as this song is, Dan's physical reactions throughout it just made it better. And Sifa, even you could not maintain that stoic pose that is you hallmark (don't get me wrong, I love it, it's almost like a comedy duo with you as the straight woman) ;-) It is an opus, pity you have not heard Billy the Mountain first, he made an appearance in this story that would have been even funnier if you knew it. Sifa, as to your assertion that GP is us, Frank has a lyric in a very old song of his that answers that, 'You think we're talking bout someone else...' That sort of sums it up, and as I said before, his musical genius overshadows his true mastery of language. The man could tell a story...

  • @filthwhistle
    @filthwhistle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Studio Tan was the first of 3 releases, in rapid succession, to get out from under his contract with Warner Bros, after he successfully sued them. Next came Sleep Dirt, and Orchestral Favorites. Very unlike FZ, these albums contained no information whatsoever, as far as personnel, recording dates, etc. A lot of fans didn't care for them, but I loved them all. Thanks.

  • @charleschadwick8042
    @charleschadwick8042 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the original vinyl was not approved of by Frank but the record kicks serious ass!

  • @mikeemerson9712
    @mikeemerson9712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 12.23 and at 16.00 there are examples of conceptual continuity in Frank's music. The mention of a mountain with a cave half way up and a little tree growing off of it's shoulder, references the story track Billy The Mountain, from the Mothers Live Filmore East June 1971 album.

  • @charleschadwick8042
    @charleschadwick8042 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got it 2 weeks after it came out for my 18th bday!

  • @davehagi9883
    @davehagi9883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big silent smile.

  • @CliffordLake
    @CliffordLake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really would like to see this animated.

    • @cosmikdna5880
      @cosmikdna5880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out "The Adventures of Greggery Peccary (edit attempt)" here on TH-cam. It's stop motion clay animation from award-winning animator Bruce Bickford. The video was pieced together from clips from the movie Baby Snakes. It's pretty cool.

  • @reidwhitton6248
    @reidwhitton6248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From the same album, check out Revised Music For Guitar and Low Budget Orchestra. It's a beautiful piece.

  • @kevinhodgson2990
    @kevinhodgson2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of Franks atonal pieces, complex and brilliant but may not be for everyone. Try Sinister Footwear or The Black Page for more atonal goodness.

  • @pipco121234
    @pipco121234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gerggary Peccary is a record company executive and any like ilk who Frank hates . This was actually written in the 60’s and is an absolute masterpiece of tape manipulation. {-

  • @donthomasdunigan7004
    @donthomasdunigan7004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aural picture making. Genius work, not for everyone. Reminds me of the Air Force barracks I once lived in. Peace.

  • @thomaswitgen4832
    @thomaswitgen4832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black napkins and so much great material thank you

  • @gj8683
    @gj8683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny how Greggery thinks that the "new brown clouds" are some kind of cool trend and not just airborne dust.

  • @marshalynch2098
    @marshalynch2098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hooray, what a nice surprise to wake up to - I've been waiting for this one!

  • @jimcarlson6157
    @jimcarlson6157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gregory Peck was a famous leading man back in the 70s. Just the name of this tune makes me chuckle.

    • @Frunobulax74
      @Frunobulax74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jim Carlson - Peck was most active from the '40s through the '60s.

  • @rowlflikes944
    @rowlflikes944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To understand the New Brown Clouds you need to listen to Billy the Mountain from Just Another Band From LA

  • @rosshart9514
    @rosshart9514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Back then it was a NO 1 hit in Paraguay...

  • @patricktilton5377
    @patricktilton5377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to think that Frank was watching TV one evening, saw an ad for an Air Hockey game, wondered to himself, "Who the fuck thinks these things up?" . . . then ponders the emergence of TRENDS in general, his imagination going hog-wild (figuratively AND literally), so that he dreams up a sinister building with an office in it where the people who work there think up all the waste-of-time things and fads and trends that so many people in society allow to dominate their minds. It practically writes itself -- but only if your a crazy genius like Frank.
    A word of advice: next time you have to fart, and you're in the presence of other people, just let 'er rip and then sing, 🎵"Who is ma-a-aking those new brown clouds? Who is ma-a-aking those clouds these days?" etc. 😜

  • @user-ut7zq5pc3u
    @user-ut7zq5pc3u 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of radio theater

  • @timkaufhold4739
    @timkaufhold4739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew you would be surprised. I thought what was going through his mind when he wrote this . You guys are first to react to this song.good job.

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
    @whycantiremainanonymous8091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    24:39: It was pretty simple?! You really should give it a second listen. And a third. And then a fourth and fifth. Start paying attention to the details. It's one of the most complex musical pieces in Zappa's catalogue.

    • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
      @whycantiremainanonymous8091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zolar Czakl But the same goes for "Big Swifty", for "For Calvin (and His Next Two Hitchhikers)", where the New Brown Clouds theme first appears in a studio recording, and prefferably for an assortment of live performances from the late 1960s and early to mid 1970s ("Ballet Music", "Die Neuen Braunen Wolken", and of course "Farther Oblivion", and I'm sure there were more). Zappa has been building up to this piece for a decade.

  • @donrandall9302
    @donrandall9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go check out its prequel…Billy the Mountain (from Just Another Band from LA)

  • @mrdnarna
    @mrdnarna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes it's his magus opus

  • @stevedotwood
    @stevedotwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah did you notice there were some odd instruments which were embedded in the score? I think it was 3 or 4 typewriters…

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh didn't pick up on that on the first listen!

  • @marcribe6483
    @marcribe6483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A prime example of conceptual continuity. The song is laced with small quick references to other songs both his and of other's. The mention that Greggory works at Big Swifty Inc. is a reference to his composition called Big Swifty that comprises a full side of the album Waka/Jawaka (1972). New Brown Clouds is a small segment found inside of his composition For Calvin (And His Next Two Hitch-Hikers) from the Grand Wazzo album (1972). Billy The Mountain, like Greggory Peccary, is a complete story song that comprises a full side of a vinyl album, in this case Just Another Band From LA (1972). There are a number of other musical references the easiest to spot possibly is the riff to Louie Louie.
    Here's another bit of information for those curious about the timeline of his music. Although released in Set. of 1978, the track Greggory Peccary (not all of the Studio Tan album) as well as all of the tracks on the album Orchestral Favorites (released in May 1979) were recorded during a three day period, September 17-19, 1975 at Royce Hall on the UCLA campus with conductor Michael Zearott. There were 2 nights of live concert performances and an additional day of recording sessions without the audience.

    • @Frunobulax74
      @Frunobulax74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Marc Ribe - Greggery was constructed from recordings at 3 locations.
      Caribou Ranch, Nederland, Colorado
      December, 1974
      FZ-guitar
      George Duke-keyboards
      Ruth Underwood-percussion, synthesizer?
      Chester Thompson-drums
      The Record Plant
      January 3-14, 1975
      FZ-guitar, vocals
      George Duke-keyboards, vocals?
      John Berkman-piano
      Michael Zearott-piano
      Pamela Goldsmith-viola
      Murray Adler-violin
      Sheldon Sanov-violin
      Jerry Kessler-cello
      Edward Meares-bass
      Bruce Fowler-trombone
      Don Waldrop-trombone
      Jock Ellis-trombone
      Dana Hughes-bass trombone
      Earle Dumler-oboe
      JoAnn Caldwell McNab-bassoon
      Mike Altschul-woodwinds
      Graham Young-trumpet
      Jay Daversa-trumpet
      Malcolm McNab-trumpet
      Ray Reed-flute
      Victor Morosco-sax
      John Rotella-woodwinds
      Alan Estes-percussion
      Emil Richards-percussion
      Tom Fowler-bass
      Chester Thompson-drums
      Royce Hall, UCLA
      September 17-19, 1975
      Abnuceals Emuukha Electric Symphony Orchestra

  • @cloveflier
    @cloveflier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    greggery peccary, my favourite imaginary musical world to reside in , i love this side of zappa, like uncle meat ,weasels ripped my flesh ans 200 motels , he had a big influence on my musical life,they most have been laughing their asses of making this , thank you Mr Zappa

  • @thesoundship
    @thesoundship 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Billy the Mountain from Just Another Band From L.A.

  • @markdearlove8634
    @markdearlove8634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love listening to that track and never more than while watching you two enjoy it too. Have you got the Zappatite for Billy the Mountain soon? We will ask the philostopher and see what he says!

  • @justaguy2365
    @justaguy2365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little twisted tree with eyes on it... followed by the jingle from billy the mountain lol

  • @Peter-K
    @Peter-K 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shout out to Dan for wearing a Dweezil Zappa tee shirt!

  • @drimblewedge2789
    @drimblewedge2789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep in mind that were no octave or pitch shifters back then. Still trying to figure out how he did it.

    • @SightAfterDark
      @SightAfterDark  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn’t he just speed up the tape?

    • @adamnealis
      @adamnealis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SightAfterDark Which is in fact what he sometimes did.

  • @Io-Io-Io
    @Io-Io-Io 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Big swifty and associates' 😁

  • @EvilSean62
    @EvilSean62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this ... you guys are "wow ... nuts ... that thing "
    and in the comments its all divisions of support for philosophers and musicians screaming about how HARD it is to write this
    and all that crazy stuff

  • @CliffordLake
    @CliffordLake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will also join the calls recommending Billy the Mountain.

  • @marcvanderiet5592
    @marcvanderiet5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a true gem.

  • @wowwhywow
    @wowwhywow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "BUT YOU SEE the pigs don't know that... the ponies don't know that... only WE know that"

    • @St_Yerbouti
      @St_Yerbouti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get out of my piano:-)

    • @wowwhywow
      @wowwhywow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@St_Yerbouti are yuou sure it's YOUR piano... I don't see your name written on it. :-P

  • @dantean
    @dantean 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It goes to Frank's genius that this IMMENSELY minor piece is nevertheless a far greater piece of music than anyone produced in the century just past or this one. It was just something in his vault he was forced to turn over to the record company in settlement of what kept him bound to them contractually, yet there's not a composer on this planet for whom this would not have been their crowning achievement. Frank, meanwhile, wasn't even going to release it. He was astonishing.

    • @Frunobulax74
      @Frunobulax74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sublime Music Channel - Actually, Frank spent a year putting Greggery together the way he wanted and it was definitely going to released.

  • @damonhines8187
    @damonhines8187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frank NEVER disappoinks...but what IS the poink? There is no poink but the journey itself, imhohohahahrmph.
    A minute or two into this I was thinking "Carl Stalling", the only composer of accompaniment for surreal early cartoons I could think of. An ODDyssey, for sure, a total trip, a sign to many of us back in "the Day"(!) that Frank was seriously high most of the time, 'til you come down and realize it ain't necessarily your most productive time or headspace, revelatory of who knows what as it might've seemed. 200 Motels also comes to mind. What a phenomenal musical mind. Hugely enjoyable journey, Sifa And Dan, sad it's over for now, looking forward to more. Cheers. ;>D

  • @patricktilton5377
    @patricktilton5377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would seriously consider donating a kidney if it could result in a team of brilliant animators creating a visual production to go along with this as its soundtrack.
    Think of the little things: like when Frank the Narrator describes Greggary going up in an elevator to the 83rd Floor -- and the music complements it by a wild rising crescendo ending with a >BING!< You can practically SEE either a glass-elevator in some vast enclosed lobby zipping up up UP to a cartoonish rebounding stop at the 83rd Floor, OR maybe a clockwise arrow-dial starting at the Lobby and spinning wildly but then stopping on a too-big #83, the arrow-dial quivering like an arrow that has just been shot into a target . . . crazy visuals like that. I would LOVE to see this bizarre little story rendered into an animated short film. Whether they used digital animation like in a Pixar production, or as an old-school hand-drawn animated type of show -- like "THE POINT" (with the song "Me and My Arrow" -- seek it out if you've never seen it before) or an old Ralph Bakshi movie (from before his "Lord of the Rings" adaptation). Think of how visually bonkers that clay animation was for Zappa's "Inca Roads" video; I'm pretty sure that Frank allowed that animator to just go wild interpreting the song with those crazy visuals. It'd be cool to see what a team of talented animators -- who are also Zappa enthusiasts -- could make out of this, "The Adventures of Greggary Peccary"!

  • @pergunnarsjoberg889
    @pergunnarsjoberg889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Billy the mountain!👍

  • @stevensprunger3422
    @stevensprunger3422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary Panter did the album cover I believe