St Pete is completely to blame. They cannot play the victim card as they are trying to do. They messed up and are doing this to intentionally kill the deal but save face. Hopefully Tampa or Orlando steps up and keeps the team in Central Florida.
Yep.. it’s all charades. If they wanted the deal, the bonds would have been issued. They are simply stalling and making the Rays be the ones that “kill the deal”.
Someone needs to explain to me why the Rays would want to stay in St. Pete anyway. It's a crappy location compared to Tampa in Hillsborough county due to Bridge traffic, and it seems a great time for the Rays to see if they can move to Charlotte or Nashville. I don't see any upside to dealing with St. Pete or Pinellas county if they can use the hurricane to get out of it. Bad Location, bad government entities to deal with.
Stop using the Traffic and Bridges as an excuse. Pinellas Country travel continuously to Bucs and Lightning Games. That's such an excuse. Nothing wrong with the location at all
No reason to Delay initially in October. This is all on the Commission. But yet continuously build more high rise condos to price out true Floridians. Talk about improving drainage bc of the new development for the Trop but yet don't improve the drainage systems when condos are continuously are being built and clean be seen on every damn corner in downtown. Clown Ass Commission!
The Rays and their owner are cheap. They looked at Ybor city in 2018 but cancelled because they expected the taxpayers to fund most of the construction costs and weren’t likely to get it.
@@Shortwheels316 Nonsense. A lot less total traffic goes from Pinellas County to Tampa than vice versa. There just aren't many people actually living in Pinellas County. Easier to travel from the less populated side to the more populated side.
1:58 that's rich coming from him, they blew it just as badly with the constant delays so I don't blame the Tampa Bay Rays for not communicating with them because they clearly want to lose their team with the constant delays.
The entire new stadium deal makes little sense. Everyone complains the location is terrible. They can’t draw flies at the Trop so the solution is to spend 1.3 billion to build next door? If the Rays were really so intent on staying in the area they could have bought land in Tampa and built where everyone says they should. They chose not to because Tampa didn’t want to build them a stadium with taxpayer money.
1:58 they are tone deaf to you because they been wanting out of st Pete for years and your county has dogged changed them to their lease to the trop without any leeway of them getting out of it early. I hope this will be the end of the rays playing in st Pete and the start of the rays building a ballpark in Tampa.
Well, St. Pete/Pinellas have no leverage now. Rays can get out of the deal now based on “delay costs”… also, if St. Pete chooses not to fix the Trop (which will be a lot more than the estimated 55 million just for the roof) then that terminates the lease and Rays are free to go wherever they choose. Hopefully St. Pete/Pinellas have some reserve funds for attorney fees because this is going to get ugly! (Edit:Uglier)
@frederickhockey2760 I read translucent. That seems to be the thing these days. They want to call the franchise The Dreamers. I think Rays sounds better.
The Rays need to relocate, period. Forget Pinellas/St. Petersburg. I’d love it if they built in Tampa, but there are major cities that want an expansion team. Wouldn’t those cities prefer an established major league team like the Rays who has been very successful? I think the Rays should relocate to one of these cities, e.g. Nashville, Portland, Montreal, San Antonio, etc.
You'll never see another MLB team in Canada. Portland couldn't sustain their Triple-A team, has no stadium, is politically dysfunctional and really isn't a major league market (sorry, basketball doesn't count). San Antonio is an average Double-A market, isn't a major league market (sorry, basketball doesn't count). Nashville has potential to be a small market MLB area but I haven't seen any serious money groups coming together to pursue it and their very nice Triple-A stadium really isn't situated for doubling to tripling its seating capacity. It's the same size as Steinbrenner. If there were any viable open MLB markets out there, there would already be 32 MLB teams. 81 annual dates at the expected attendance levels and ticket prices tells me there are too many teams now. I say cut it back to 24 teams and it might be worth watching at the prices they command.
If the city of St. Petersburg doesn’t fix the roof then lease is terminated and the Rays can leave early for another city. Any city that wants a MLB franchise needs an owner and MLB stadium.
St Pete is completely to blame. They cannot play the victim card as they are trying to do. They messed up and are doing this to intentionally kill the deal but save face. Hopefully Tampa or Orlando steps up and keeps the team in Central Florida.
Yep.. it’s all charades. If they wanted the deal, the bonds would have been issued. They are simply stalling and making the Rays be the ones that “kill the deal”.
Bye Rays !! Stu needs to take his team elsewhere, stop wasting tax payer money !
Someone needs to explain to me why the Rays would want to stay in St. Pete anyway. It's a crappy location compared to Tampa in Hillsborough county due to Bridge traffic, and it seems a great time for the Rays to see if they can move to Charlotte or Nashville.
I don't see any upside to dealing with St. Pete or Pinellas county if they can use the hurricane to get out of it. Bad Location, bad government entities to deal with.
Stop using the Traffic and Bridges as an excuse. Pinellas Country travel continuously to Bucs and Lightning Games. That's such an excuse. Nothing wrong with the location at all
No reason to Delay initially in October. This is all on the Commission. But yet continuously build more high rise condos to price out true Floridians. Talk about improving drainage bc of the new development for the Trop but yet don't improve the drainage systems when condos are continuously are being built and clean be seen on every damn corner in downtown. Clown Ass Commission!
The Rays and their owner are cheap. They looked at Ybor city in 2018 but cancelled because they expected the taxpayers to fund most of the construction costs and weren’t likely to get it.
@@Shortwheels316 Nonsense. A lot less total traffic goes from Pinellas County to Tampa than vice versa. There just aren't many people actually living in Pinellas County. Easier to travel from the less populated side to the more populated side.
@@Bk6346 They should play off Tampa against Nashville against Charlotte and see who wants it the most.
1:58 that's rich coming from him, they blew it just as badly with the constant delays so I don't blame the Tampa Bay Rays for not communicating with them because they clearly want to lose their team with the constant delays.
Bye Rays😅
Bring back the Expos!
Put it in polk county. Plenty of land here!
Just move them to Orlando.
Bring the Rays to Nebraska!!
Bye... The development plan was a bad deal for Pinellas residents The affordable housing was laughable. St Pete deserves better.
The entire new stadium deal makes little sense. Everyone complains the location is terrible. They can’t draw flies at the Trop so the solution is to spend 1.3 billion to build next door? If the Rays were really so intent on staying in the area they could have bought land in Tampa and built where everyone says they should. They chose not to because Tampa didn’t want to build them a stadium with taxpayer money.
1:58 they are tone deaf to you because they been wanting out of st Pete for years and your county has dogged changed them to their lease to the trop without any leeway of them getting out of it early. I hope this will be the end of the rays playing in st Pete and the start of the rays building a ballpark in Tampa.
That's sad fans losing the team. 😢 understand the stadium looks bad. But the fans in Tampa and saint Petersburg are your fans
Well, St. Pete/Pinellas have no leverage now. Rays can get out of the deal now based on “delay costs”… also, if St. Pete chooses not to fix the Trop (which will be a lot more than the estimated 55 million just for the roof) then that terminates the lease and Rays are free to go wherever they choose.
Hopefully St. Pete/Pinellas have some reserve funds for attorney fees because this is going to get ugly! (Edit:Uglier)
That commissioner just stuck a proverbial fork in ANY deal now! The Rays may be tone deaf but I am sure that they heard what the commish said.
Tampa Rays become the Nashville Stars
Why cant MLB atep in be done with the team and relocate?
Hello Orlando
@@ATCguy1973 will Orlando build them a stadium with vast neighborhood amenities and a retractable roof?
@frederickhockey2760 I read translucent. That seems to be the thing these days. They want to call the franchise The Dreamers. I think Rays sounds better.
The Rays need to relocate, period. Forget Pinellas/St. Petersburg. I’d love it if they built in Tampa, but there are major cities that want an expansion team. Wouldn’t those cities prefer an established major league team like the Rays who has been very successful? I think the Rays should relocate to one of these cities, e.g. Nashville, Portland, Montreal, San Antonio, etc.
Never portland i live in oregon and they would never get support not enough people support baseball here
You'll never see another MLB team in Canada. Portland couldn't sustain their Triple-A team, has no stadium, is politically dysfunctional and really isn't a major league market (sorry, basketball doesn't count). San Antonio is an average Double-A market, isn't a major league market (sorry, basketball doesn't count). Nashville has potential to be a small market MLB area but I haven't seen any serious money groups coming together to pursue it and their very nice Triple-A stadium really isn't situated for doubling to tripling its seating capacity. It's the same size as Steinbrenner. If there were any viable open MLB markets out there, there would already be 32 MLB teams. 81 annual dates at the expected attendance levels and ticket prices tells me there are too many teams now. I say cut it back to 24 teams and it might be worth watching at the prices they command.
If the city of St. Petersburg doesn’t fix the roof then lease is terminated and the Rays can leave early for another city. Any city that wants a MLB franchise needs an owner and MLB stadium.
@@mikebritcom3171Damn ridiculous
Greedy MLB owners need to get busy and help fund a new stadium 🏟