That’d be amazing. I like the idea of a battle of with more than two stand users at a time fighting another 2+ group so we could see some really elaborate synergy. That, and might lead to a better finale than having an overpowered stand that could only be defeated decisively by an even MORE overpowered stand. Neat idea:)
It reminds me about the fall of the Roman republic. Every soldiers had a loyalty towards the republic, but they were more loyal to their chief than to the republic. The campaign in Gaule lasted eight years, and was immensely successful, thanks to Caesar's strategic genius. He was also very generous with his rewards towards his armies. And all of a sudden, the Roman senate took Caesar away from his job. So, when he rebelled, his armies took allegiance to Caesar rather than Pompey and the senate.
Carne is super interesting when it comes to "loyalty." We don't know anything, but...for Carne to be on the elite guard, the Boss would have to have 100% faith in Carne staying on his side and remaining willing to die for the boss. How The Boss learned how Carne's stand works is another question entirely, but once he did learn it, the question of Carne's loyalty would have to be of utmost concern. Frankly, to earn Carne's loyalty, The Boss maybe let him live the best life out of anyone in the entire organization. It'd certainly explain why Carne's so corpulent and extravagant. He'd want for nothing and could live as hedonistically as he wanted to. A much darker, but probably wiser idea, would be that The Boss WOULDN'T trust Carne. After all, what happens if the guy just randomly has a heart attack in a crowded city and unleashes Notorious BIG in Roma? It'd be a natural disaster that could possibly destroy the whole civilization! That makes me think the safest way of handling Carne would be to keep him in an induced-coma-like state in a hospital, and to only revive him and send him on a mission when the time is right. However it works, Carne's situation is interesting, and I would love to have learned more about him.
Given what they say about Carne, your second idea is probably right. I doubt he was even left in a coma. The way he behaves gives me the impression of someone who’s lived years in a padded cell with no outside contact. It may be why he never says a word, but still knows how to write.
I totally agree with you. Despite being one of the most wasted characters with the least screentime in Jojo, carne was still unique. How did he become an elite guard for the boss? How does he know how his stand works? Why does he look very weird and Inhuman? Why does he not speak a single word? Why did he sacrifice himself so easily like that? So many questions, but unfortunately, they might never be answered... part 5 gangstar theme could be a big opportunity for a wide world to explore, purple haze feedback managed to expand on that world so greatly, and it can be even better.
Bruno and Risotto are both smart leaders. I'm sure they would've found a common ground. I think the reason why La Squadra went against the boss in the first place was the deaths of Sorbet and Gelato. I believe they were a family just like Buccellati's gang (thanks DP) with Formaggio's jokes about his useless stand and a newbie like Pesci knowing that Sorbet and Gelato painted their nails the same color.
La Squadra went against the boss, because they were unsatisfied by the payment. Sorbet and Gelato tried to discover the identity of the Boss and were killed because of that.
i could see then working, because bruno wanted to get rid of the drugs, and la squadra are the killers, and actually dont like the drug dealers because they are paid more, but since they want money, they would probably take over the gang and keep selling drugs, they would eventually fight
@@kakhagvelesiani8364 You’re right. But I think their death played a big role as well. After all, La Squadra arranged a funeral for Sorbet and Gelato and they all attended. Maybe Risotto told everyone to forget about Sorbet and Gelato because he knew his gang would try to get revenge and that would only make their situation worse. I guess Risotto just hoped that everything would come back to normal but that didn’t happen. So he was like “Fool me once, I’m mad. Fool me twice, how could you. Fool me three times, you're officially that guy, okay?”
Absolutely not, They may have been able to defeat the boss together but the rift that would be caused afterwards due to the difference in their ideals would be impossible to mend. La Squadra are literally just as bad as the boss, this whole animosity only even started because la squadra were unsatisfied with the payment they were getting from assassination compared to the drug trade, and more or less wanted to take over just so that they could take control of the drug routes themselves to get mad money, something which Giorno and Bruno would have vehemently refused to allow. Like, sure, after Gelato and Sorbet were killed, they also had the 'revenge for fallen brothers' angle, but that wouldn't have made them any better as people or as leaders of Passione. TLDR la squadra were horrible people who just wanted money and power like anyone else, which would have put them at odds with Giorno/Bruno and make it impossible for them to work together.
That moment when you realize all this could be avoided if the boss just invited trish to a room by himself and told Bruno to leave and wouldn't do anything to Trish until the group left the island. GG
He was paranoid as always, and that gets the best of him, the severed hand was with all security intended to deter Bruno from go any further and just go away, I mean he didn't even waited for them to get to the top floor that is how Paranoid he was that they could catch a glimpse of him so better took Trish by surprise and made sure Bruno won't follow after him, but it had the complete opposite effect
9:51- plus when one of La Squadra’s major members involves impregnating/killing random women to get a weapon; you’d see why they’d fundamentally wouldn’t work with each other.
You are so welcome. Your videos are awesome. I was also thinking that the Boss wasn't expecting either group to advance in finding him out at first. In my eyes, he was seeking to kill two or more flocks of birds with one stone aka Trish.
@Mariah Lightfoot Well it could work by having both teams already have taken over Passione and fighting for full control, but in a "Cold War" manner (like making smaller teams fight or having small skirmishes).
@Mariah Lightfoot i think that maybe it could start off like part 5 where neither of them are in control but both want to take over Passione by figuring the boss' identity. They know that each and another are going after the same goal, but try not to intervene too much. The King Crimson v.s Metallica fight could've taken place, but since La Squadra and Team Bucciarati are in a state of "won't fight unless it's necessary" Aerosmith won't bullet the shit out of Risotto, essentially killing off The Boss, probably, and it would be less talk and more fight, granting Risotto the ability to bypass everything and use a needle to potentially pierce Doppio's heart. Now, the hard thing would be figuring out how everyone would find out that the Boss has been killed; no one knows that Doppio is the Boss, so in Part 9 I would assume that at least the Unita Speciale know since AUs like to change things up like that. Alas, once it's learned by the gang that the Boss has not returned in a while and that they haven't heard from him in a time, Unita Speciale goes on the hunt to find him, since his absentness was unusual and he would've alerted them was he gonna be gone for a while. They find Doppio's dead body, so then, it's basically announced that the Boss is dead and has been killed, as well as Doppio. They didn't know who the murderer was though, until Risotto talked to them about it (the remaining members would probably be Squalo, Tiziano and Secco. I cannot sacrifice the 7 page muda.) Risotto is then the Capo and his remaining Squad (i'm just gonna say two of them were killed in order to balance things out with Team Bucciarati as well) replaced the Unita Speciale, since he had no trust on the current remaining members. Bruno and the gang get ahold of the news, and bam, new conflict arises, defeat La Squadra funky
I don't think La Squadra would attempt to take control of the gang. Their issue was that they were barely paid and it was a sign of disrespect. If our Passione boys took control, as long as they compensated La Squadra well then there would not be an issue.
Well Formaggio did say that they wanted to kill the boss for revenge and also take over his drug route which goes against Bruno's team's goal,to completely shut down the drugs from Naples.
@@dragonandavatarfan8865 in the end they just wanted money. If they could make decent money than they could do without the drug trade. In fact the hitman squad was the squad which would be the last or second to last remove from the mafia.
Another reason as to why Bruno would leave Passione is probably all the drug business. The guy is clearly stated to despise drugs, yet they're sold frequently by the gang. Something he didn't fin out until having worked there for a while.
La squadra and Bruno's group have opposite goals La squadra wants to keep the drugs And Bruno's group is completely against drug trade so I still think they would fight over that
I think that Bruno or Risotto would make a better boss than the current one for separate reasons: Bruno would be a great boss because his presence and character alone earns him trust, loyalty, and respect not just from his men, but his community; it was shown on early chapters that Bruno has strong ties to the people in how they come to him for help, and that he cares about them like when he found one of the kids who's arm he "borrowed" had needle marks and he felt guilt (hence his hesitation in his fight against Giorno). Risotto, although not as likable as Bruno, would be a good boss because he could keep his people focused and on task; also given that he knows what it's like to be undercut, he'd know how to keep his men fat, happy, and in line.
@@metal42 They're a gang, they literally kill and mob people. Selling drugs is such a bad point of defection. Good thing Purple Haze Feedback told a backstory on how the drugs were abnormal to make it a bit more understandable.
I just think you should have mentioned fugo's loyalty to the organization a bit and dove into fugo's novel and how is loyalty changed at the end but besides that it was a amazing video keep it up :)
I thought Fugo's decision to abandon the group and stay part of Passione had less to do with loyalty and more to do with faith. One of Fugo's main traits is his self-deprecation; the fact that his own Stand's power can hurt him and his friends as well as his enemies is a big sign of this. It's not that he wasn't loyal to Bruno and his team, but he didn't believe they could go against the power of the boss (Diavolo) and win, let alone live to tell the tale... which at least partially came to pass.
And then we have Pericolo, who trusted Passione and the boss so much he willingly commited suicide to try and make sure there would be no information leak. Now, I don't know if he killed himself on his own accord or if Diavolo ordered him to do it after delivering his last message to Bruno, but if it was the later then I don't get why Diavolo would willingly get rid of possibly his most loyal member. The same thing happened with Dio and Enya, wouldn't it make more sense if Dio had sent Steely Dan to prove Enya's loyalty to him by telling her Dio ordered her death and only killing her if her loyalty then wavered? Just imagine, he could have sent her to control Avdul's body (as they thought he was dead) and inflict psychological damage to the group forcing him to fight against the undead version of their ormer friend
At best, I can imagine an alternate scene wherein Bruno is about to bring Trish to the elevator but the elevator door holds on a bit long enough before closing and only when it closes does Risotto deactivate his invisibility, arriving earlier than he did in the actual story. They get into a bit of questioning on why Bruno killed his gang members but then Diavolo takes Trish and I'd think Risotto would realize it would be better at that point to temporarily put his differences with Bruno. Just imagine a fight between King Crimson against Metallica and Sticky Fingers working together but in distrust
Bruno's loyalty is to believe in doing what is right, its more on the moral side rather than the needs and wants of a person to keep them loyal in believing or doing something. Sometimes, to some people, its very hard to keep on doing things you know that is morally right because first of all, you would feel like, its you against the world, because you object to going with the flow and also nowadays, people tend to do stuff that is bad even if they know it to gain something out of it probably because of an impulsive urge or desperate needs. La Squadra, they stuck together until the end because for them, its business, while Bruno and the gang, its more than business and emotion is involved, that's why one was left behind even if he kind of wanted to go too. .. and YES! My loyalty is to continue to be a fan of JoJo's and create related contents with it! I still think that Diavolo's another persona is pretty "Doppio".
I feel like Diavolo was a big pushover at the end of "Vento Aureo". Don't get me wrong, I LOVE all of the main JoJo villains, but Diavolo was the only villain who was unable to achieve his goal (this being using the Requiem Arrow to turn King Crimson into a Requiem stand and, probably, erase any trace of his past and dispose of the people who pursued him). -In Part 1, Dio Brando fulfilled his aim of forsaking his humanity, becoming a vampire; -In Part 2, Kars became a the ultimate lifeform; -In Part 3 DIO managed to completely fuse with Jonathan's body, making "The World" more powerful; -In Part 4, Kira acquired "Bites the Dust", an ability that helped him stay anonymous when he was backed into a corner; -In Part 6, Pucci ascended and attained the ultimate stand, "Made in Heaven", with which he intended to reset the universe; -In Part 7, Valentine had his wish come true by having Diego bring the holy corpse to the vault in New York. Only Diavolo didn't get what he was after. All the other villains managed to achieve their goals and were defeated, despite their new, seemingly overpowered, abilities. Part 5's end left me feeling that Silver Chariot Requiem was the main villain of the part. Now, you could argue that Araki wanted to try something new, or that Diavolo's Requiem ability would be so overpowered, that it would make him truly invincible (and it may well be true), but I just feel disappointed that he was quickly disposed of at the end. He was also one of the more complex characters (the thing with the split personality and all that). Anyway, this was just my opinion on the matter, just food for thought. Can't wait for Part 8's villain to be revealed.
But what would his requiem ability be ? I mean I can't think of anything , since he already has a time ability Also I don't think Kira really achieved his goal Because his goal was living a quiet life ,Not gaining another ability It could be argued that Diavolo's goal is erasing every thing about his past and getting rid of the traitors ,But if he achieves this goal ,it would mean that Giorno would have to be dead ,Which basically makes the end even worse
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou Yea I see your point. That's why I said that maybe Araki realised Diavolo would be overpowered if he acquired the arrow, and I agree, he probably would be. As for the thing with Kira, I meant that "Bites The Dust" was an ability born from his frustration of being found out, and the arrow of course. His ultimate goal was living a quiet life, and this new ability momentarily aided him and would have probably provided him with that life if he had won. It's the same as with DIO. His real goal was to rule the world, but he first needed to make him and his stand stronger by completely merging with Jonathan's body.
I have this stand idea Stand Name: Backspacer Namesake: The PearlJam album of the same name Stand Ability: Touch an object and delete it from existence, then is able to remotely bring the object back into existence; essentially sending it forward in time. If anything is within the same space of the object then it becomes fused with it because it will force its way into existence. Also, if there was any kind of force acting on it when it was touched, then it continues right where it left off once brought back. So for instance if you threw a ball and with the last touch of your finger made it disappear then once it was brought back it would continue with the same momentum. I think this could be interesting because of how complex the ability is and also because of how useful it could be. Imagine you're fighting someone and make a plank of wood disappear so their leg falls into it, then making it reappear, fusing them to the wood.
Am I going crazy or can you also hear from 0:00 to 0:57 very faintly in the background the Recollection theme from the Class Trial of Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney the first game? I can holy hear a faint melody which souns really really similar playing really quietly, if you ignore the voice
It sucks that La Squadra and Bruno's team basically had the same goal but never really realized it because their methods were different. I woulda loved to see even just Risotto join up with the gang. I wish he got more screen time
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Hey kaleb you know that the marvel universe and jojos are definitely connected. I mean look clearly in the key for coco jumbos with is the reality stone creating a reality inside the turtle.
He'd likely make himself *HUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGEEE* and give himself eyes on all his muscles, and maybe a few weapon upgrades. Aside from that, he'd still just be Wamuu.
La Squadra would not have worked with Bruno's group due to one thing: La Squadra wanted control of the drug trade. Bruno and Giorno's motivation was to end it and turn Passione into more of a protection gang and not necessarily one out for profit.
Hey kaleb. Heres a thought. What if brunos group and la squadra teamed up to defeat the boss? Maybe there couldve been a scenario where they saw in the same light? Would be interesting to see what the ending would be like if that happened
@@metal42 thats the kind of stuff i would like to be theorized. Things like: what would the boss do if they didnt bring trish to him? Or: would the boss be able to kill abbacchio that easily? Or maybe he doesnt even kill abbacchio. Maybe the polnareff situation plays out completely differently.
What I found weird was when Bruno offered his teammates a chance to back out. I would have assumed at that point Diavolo would have eliminated everyone who had made contact with Bruno including family. Often time criminals hold people's family hostage to prevent people from defecting. But if Diavolo really wanted all the loyalty to him than he would have swapped team members or leaders around to prevent them from becoming loyal to each other more than himself.
Always wondered tho why Bruno immediately assumed "THE BOSS WANTS TO KILL HIS OWN DAUGHTER??" in the elevator. I mean, it could've been another La Squadra member attacking? He kinda jumped to all sorts of conclusions for the sake of the plot.
exactly, when I saw that scene for the first time I was like "Oh, so that creepy boss dude of La Squadra attacked Bruno". I also think the boss could have killed Trish by fisting her just like what he did with Bruno later that episode or he could have taken the whole body of Trish instead of letting just a hand
I find Risotto my favorite Jojo antagonist, and that Risotto and La Squadra were offed too early for such unique characters. Oh well. Would've been cool to see Risotto fight Doppio later on and win, rather than him guaranteed to lose because Doppio is new and important, and to see Risotto achieve his goal of killing the boss would have been satisfying.
"was something that everyone could get behind"
cuts to Fugo
Kneause Fugo was the loyal one... everyone else betrayed...
Jesse Hui Well hes just loyal to a different group / cause
When you think about who fugo is it makes since but seeing as we all listen to this dude we all prolly know why
7:50- 8:22. Ik it’s been like 3 yrs lol
Diavolo: Loyalty? In *my* mafia? That’s it, I’m getting me stand!
*skips time and donuts people like a boss. Literally.*
In the end, all that matters is the results...
Hello.......
*KEKKA GAKKE DA*
Nothing Else Matters by Metallica
Fitting song for what happened on the island and what Diavolo's mindset is
Until it’s no more
Bruh this made me cry
Seeing Diavolo die early just to have Le Squadra and Bruno’s team have a power vacuum war would be such an interesting thing to see.
Then Metallica could have been the actual final boss. King Crimson is better, but that'd still kinda be cool
That would be cool.
Imo risotto is a cooler character than diavolo.
The alpha The omega i loved risottos voice too
That’d be amazing. I like the idea of a battle of with more than two stand users at a time fighting another 2+ group so we could see some really elaborate synergy. That, and might lead to a better finale than having an overpowered stand that could only be defeated decisively by an even MORE overpowered stand. Neat idea:)
It reminds me about the fall of the Roman republic. Every soldiers had a loyalty towards the republic, but they were more loyal to their chief than to the republic. The campaign in Gaule lasted eight years, and was immensely successful, thanks to Caesar's strategic genius. He was also very generous with his rewards towards his armies. And all of a sudden, the Roman senate took Caesar away from his job. So, when he rebelled, his armies took allegiance to Caesar rather than Pompey and the senate.
"Loyalty to the end"
what's it going to be Bruno, loyalty to me or loyalty to your country?
Pajamapants Jack Bruno: I’m loyal to myself. **piano golden wind starts to play**
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IS THAT A METAL GEAR SOLID REFERENCE!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
STANDing
On the edge
Wait, wrong song.
MGSV, Part V, it kinda fits
If your profile pic is from a hentai/doujin tell me the name?
Carne is super interesting when it comes to "loyalty."
We don't know anything, but...for Carne to be on the elite guard, the Boss would have to have 100% faith in Carne staying on his side and remaining willing to die for the boss.
How The Boss learned how Carne's stand works is another question entirely, but once he did learn it, the question of Carne's loyalty would have to be of utmost concern.
Frankly, to earn Carne's loyalty, The Boss maybe let him live the best life out of anyone in the entire organization. It'd certainly explain why Carne's so corpulent and extravagant. He'd want for nothing and could live as hedonistically as he wanted to.
A much darker, but probably wiser idea, would be that The Boss WOULDN'T trust Carne. After all, what happens if the guy just randomly has a heart attack in a crowded city and unleashes Notorious BIG in Roma? It'd be a natural disaster that could possibly destroy the whole civilization! That makes me think the safest way of handling Carne would be to keep him in an induced-coma-like state in a hospital, and to only revive him and send him on a mission when the time is right.
However it works, Carne's situation is interesting, and I would love to have learned more about him.
Given what they say about Carne, your second idea is probably right. I doubt he was even left in a coma. The way he behaves gives me the impression of someone who’s lived years in a padded cell with no outside contact. It may be why he never says a word, but still knows how to write.
A saw somewhere else a theory about the Boss knowing the effect of the stand with Epitath
I just realised that notorious BIG is a fucking SCP. Thing is as dangerous when loose as 096
Sirius that shouldn’t be possible. Epitaph can’t see that far in the future.
I totally agree with you.
Despite being one of the most wasted characters with the least screentime in Jojo, carne was still unique.
How did he become an elite guard for the boss? How does he know how his stand works? Why does he look very weird and Inhuman? Why does he not speak a single word? Why did he sacrifice himself so easily like that?
So many questions, but unfortunately, they might never be answered... part 5 gangstar theme could be a big opportunity for a wide world to explore, purple haze feedback managed to expand on that world so greatly, and it can be even better.
The most loyal person in all of JoJo, Speedwagon
He betrayed his street gang from part 1
@@asaaday4888 Didn't Tatoo and the other guy get invited to Jonathan and Erina's wedding?
What about stroheim
he got guys working for a family they kno nothing about other than knowinf they good friends
Sad gyro zeppeli noises
I'm loyal to only one man....
Guanglai Kangyi... he has no dignity
*chew*
*(you dont need to remember)*
I get a feeling so complicated
*I AM THE FUCKING STRONG*
His hairstyle got TRASHED! So he's too mad to know what drawings are!
Bruno and Risotto are both smart leaders. I'm sure they would've found a common ground. I think the reason why La Squadra went against the boss in the first place was the deaths of Sorbet and Gelato. I believe they were a family just like Buccellati's gang (thanks DP) with Formaggio's jokes about his useless stand and a newbie like Pesci knowing that Sorbet and Gelato painted their nails the same color.
La Squadra went against the boss, because they were unsatisfied by the payment. Sorbet and Gelato tried to discover the identity of the Boss and were killed because of that.
i could see then working, because bruno wanted to get rid of the drugs, and la squadra are the killers, and actually dont like the drug dealers because they are paid more, but since they want money, they would probably take over the gang and keep selling drugs, they would eventually fight
La squadra didn't want to kill the boss because of Gelato and Sorbet, they didn't do it after they were killed by cioccolata.
@@kakhagvelesiani8364 You’re right. But I think their death played a big role as well. After all, La Squadra arranged a funeral for Sorbet and Gelato and they all attended. Maybe Risotto told everyone to forget about Sorbet and Gelato because he knew his gang would try to get revenge and that would only make their situation worse. I guess Risotto just hoped that everything would come back to normal but that didn’t happen. So he was like “Fool me once, I’m mad. Fool me twice, how could you. Fool me three times, you're officially that guy, okay?”
Absolutely not, They may have been able to defeat the boss together but the rift that would be caused afterwards due to the difference in their ideals would be impossible to mend.
La Squadra are literally just as bad as the boss, this whole animosity only even started because la squadra were unsatisfied with the payment they were getting from assassination compared to the drug trade, and more or less wanted to take over just so that they could take control of the drug routes themselves to get mad money, something which Giorno and Bruno would have vehemently refused to allow. Like, sure, after Gelato and Sorbet were killed, they also had the 'revenge for fallen brothers' angle, but that wouldn't have made them any better as people or as leaders of Passione.
TLDR la squadra were horrible people who just wanted money and power like anyone else, which would have put them at odds with Giorno/Bruno and make it impossible for them to work together.
It's not like pledged my loyalty to you... that being said, the only time i'm ever at ease is when I'm with you, Kaleb I.A.
Trash
That moment when you realize all this could be avoided if the boss just invited trish to a room by himself and told Bruno to leave and wouldn't do anything to Trish until the group left the island. GG
He was in such a hurry, but oh well.
I was thinking the same too, severing Trish's hand wasn't necessary. It only made things worse.
Probably, the man's got sum appointmentz!
He was paranoid as always, and that gets the best of him, the severed hand was with all security intended to deter Bruno from go any further and just go away, I mean he didn't even waited for them to get to the top floor that is how Paranoid he was that they could catch a glimpse of him so better took Trish by surprise and made sure Bruno won't follow after him, but it had the complete opposite effect
Bruno was gonna put Giorno's brooch on him for tracking anyway so Bruno would still have found out
You could say he wanted to skip straight to the results.
I said it a bunch and I’ll say it again it: isn’t called Bruno’s group, it’s called Bucci Gang
why have you forsaken us
So we've got the Stardust Croissants, the Duwang Gang, and Bucci Gang
b u c c i g a n g b u c c i g a n g
Gucchi gang? More like Bucci Gang
@@timewellspent8137 you mean crusaders
9:51- plus when one of La Squadra’s major members involves impregnating/killing random women to get a weapon; you’d see why they’d fundamentally wouldn’t work with each other.
Time to watch while in class...
Hey same!
Lol same but you know jojo >>> school
If you dont pay attention in school you'll end up like dio's father
Imagine an alternate timeline where Bruno's gang and le squadra team up to beat the boss
My loyalty is with best boy Doppio
Hewwo🐦🧒🏻
You misspelled narancia
Bucciallati legit carried the story and he was dead for about 55% of it. This dude legit progressed the it from the dead.
Such an underrated character😍
@@thetrashtrain3774 Narancia is best girl tho, because he's Trish
“People are only as loyal as their last meal.”
I really like that quote!
Also I heard The Steel Samurai theme song in the end you sneak!
You are so welcome. Your videos are awesome.
I was also thinking that the Boss wasn't expecting either group to advance in finding him out at first.
In my eyes, he was seeking to kill two or more flocks of birds with one stone aka Trish.
I wouldn't mind part 9 being the part 5 "remake" and featuring the Bruno's vs La Squadra plot.
@Mariah Lightfoot Well it could work by having both teams already have taken over Passione and fighting for full control, but in a "Cold War" manner (like making smaller teams fight or having small skirmishes).
@Mariah Lightfoot i think that maybe it could start off like part 5 where neither of them are in control but both want to take over Passione by figuring the boss' identity. They know that each and another are going after the same goal, but try not to intervene too much. The King Crimson v.s Metallica fight could've taken place, but since La Squadra and Team Bucciarati are in a state of "won't fight unless it's necessary" Aerosmith won't bullet the shit out of Risotto, essentially killing off The Boss, probably, and it would be less talk and more fight, granting Risotto the ability to bypass everything and use a needle to potentially pierce Doppio's heart.
Now, the hard thing would be figuring out how everyone would find out that the Boss has been killed; no one knows that Doppio is the Boss, so in Part 9 I would assume that at least the Unita Speciale know since AUs like to change things up like that.
Alas, once it's learned by the gang that the Boss has not returned in a while and that they haven't heard from him in a time, Unita Speciale goes on the hunt to find him, since his absentness was unusual and he would've alerted them was he gonna be gone for a while. They find Doppio's dead body, so then, it's basically announced that the Boss is dead and has been killed, as well as Doppio. They didn't know who the murderer was though, until Risotto talked to them about it (the remaining members would probably be Squalo, Tiziano and Secco. I cannot sacrifice the 7 page muda.) Risotto is then the Capo and his remaining Squad (i'm just gonna say two of them were killed in order to balance things out with Team Bucciarati as well) replaced the Unita Speciale, since he had no trust on the current remaining members.
Bruno and the gang get ahold of the news, and bam, new conflict arises, defeat La Squadra
funky
When Polpo foreshadows Part 5 as a whole and Carne takes loyalty to a whole new level (I love u my sweet prince)
I love the relationship that la squadra has.
I don't think La Squadra would attempt to take control of the gang. Their issue was that they were barely paid and it was a sign of disrespect. If our Passione boys took control, as long as they compensated La Squadra well then there would not be an issue.
Well Formaggio did say that they wanted to kill the boss for revenge and also take over his drug route which goes against Bruno's team's goal,to completely shut down the drugs from Naples.
@@dragonandavatarfan8865 in the end they just wanted money. If they could make decent money than they could do without the drug trade.
In fact the hitman squad was the squad which would be the last or second to last remove from the mafia.
5:36- Cioccolata and Secco, on the other hand, oh boy, especially Cioccolata.
Kaleb your videos always take my wig! I love you!
Another reason as to why Bruno would leave Passione is probably all the drug business. The guy is clearly stated to despise drugs, yet they're sold frequently by the gang. Something he didn't fin out until having worked there for a while.
La squadra and Bruno's group have opposite goals
La squadra wants to keep the drugs
And Bruno's group is completely against drug trade so I still think they would fight over that
@420Praiseit Gitgudneosucksasstoo Giorno hated Drugs as Much as Bucciarati. He wanted to get rid of the drugs. Hence PHF
I think that Bruno or Risotto would make a better boss than the current one for separate reasons:
Bruno would be a great boss because his presence and character alone earns him trust, loyalty, and respect not just from his men, but his community; it was shown on early chapters that Bruno has strong ties to the people in how they come to him for help, and that he cares about them like when he found one of the kids who's arm he "borrowed" had needle marks and he felt guilt (hence his hesitation in his fight against Giorno).
Risotto, although not as likable as Bruno, would be a good boss because he could keep his people focused and on task; also given that he knows what it's like to be undercut, he'd know how to keep his men fat, happy, and in line.
The current manga one? if so that's bullshit 'cause he can inspire people a ton and he has the most op stand ever meaning no one would betray the org
+Hanko no KoKoro He probably hasn't read the manga.
Girono basically helps people the same way as buccellati, risotto is a bad comparison. Risotto would still sell drugs.
@@metal42
They're a gang, they literally kill and mob people.
Selling drugs is such a bad point of defection.
Good thing Purple Haze Feedback told a backstory on how the drugs were abnormal to make it a bit more understandable.
I just think you should have mentioned fugo's loyalty to the organization a bit and dove into fugo's novel and how is loyalty changed at the end but besides that it was a amazing video keep it up :)
I thought Fugo's decision to abandon the group and stay part of Passione had less to do with loyalty and more to do with faith. One of Fugo's main traits is his self-deprecation; the fact that his own Stand's power can hurt him and his friends as well as his enemies is a big sign of this. It's not that he wasn't loyal to Bruno and his team, but he didn't believe they could go against the power of the boss (Diavolo) and win, let alone live to tell the tale... which at least partially came to pass.
Araki did la squadra a dirty change my mind
And then we have Pericolo, who trusted Passione and the boss so much he willingly commited suicide to try and make sure there would be no information leak. Now, I don't know if he killed himself on his own accord or if Diavolo ordered him to do it after delivering his last message to Bruno, but if it was the later then I don't get why Diavolo would willingly get rid of possibly his most loyal member.
The same thing happened with Dio and Enya, wouldn't it make more sense if Dio had sent Steely Dan to prove Enya's loyalty to him by telling her Dio ordered her death and only killing her if her loyalty then wavered? Just imagine, he could have sent her to control Avdul's body (as they thought he was dead) and inflict psychological damage to the group forcing him to fight against the undead version of their ormer friend
New subscriber here....long time jojo fan....keep up the amazing work! You do a great job and i appreciate the effort you put into these !
God I fucking love this show, the complexity and the style of every character. This is the shit I live for.
All that remains in this world is the end results. In the world where time has been eliminated, all movements becomes pointless!
That pokemon just won't evolve
good. i fucking love mudkip
It ate an everstone
Kaleb crammed a Everstone down its mouth.
It wasn't hit by the Stand Arrow.
I think it's not a Pokemon
But Kaleb's stand, taking a shape as Mudkip
Snake eater is my favorite metal gear game. I'M STILLLLL IN A DREAAAAAAMMM, SNAKE EATER
At best, I can imagine an alternate scene wherein Bruno is about to bring Trish to the elevator but the elevator door holds on a bit long enough before closing and only when it closes does Risotto deactivate his invisibility, arriving earlier than he did in the actual story. They get into a bit of questioning on why Bruno killed his gang members but then Diavolo takes Trish and I'd think Risotto would realize it would be better at that point to temporarily put his differences with Bruno. Just imagine a fight between King Crimson against Metallica and Sticky Fingers working together but in distrust
Welp, Diavolo is basically screwed.
What if Giorno had been assigned to La Squadra?
I enjoy your videos
Even though I haven't been watching your content for a while
Keep up the great work, dude
Bruno's loyalty is to believe in doing what is right, its more on the moral side rather than the needs and wants of a person to keep them loyal in believing or doing something. Sometimes, to some people, its very hard to keep on doing things you know that is morally right because first of all, you would feel like, its you against the world, because you object to going with the flow and also nowadays, people tend to do stuff that is bad even if they know it to gain something out of it probably because of an impulsive urge or desperate needs.
La Squadra, they stuck together until the end because for them, its business, while Bruno and the gang, its more than business and emotion is involved, that's why one was left behind even if he kind of wanted to go too.
.. and YES!
My loyalty is to continue to be a fan of JoJo's and create related contents with it!
I still think that Diavolo's another persona is pretty "Doppio".
Dude, i love your thumbnails so much
“The rest of the elite guards are something else”
Ah yes, The nicest duo in all of jojo ❤️
The *gayest duo in Jojo
Anis BEng I was talking about mad surgeon and his pet
@@lsaacthecraftsman oh sorry
So glad when your videos come out
Since we're going to be approaching that part of Part 5 soon, I was thinking a cool What if video would be What would a Crazy Diamond Requiem be like?
He already did that.
I feel like Diavolo was a big pushover at the end of "Vento Aureo". Don't get me wrong, I LOVE all of the main JoJo villains, but Diavolo was the only villain who was unable to achieve his goal (this being using the Requiem Arrow to turn King Crimson into a Requiem stand and, probably, erase any trace of his past and dispose of the people who pursued him).
-In Part 1, Dio Brando fulfilled his aim of forsaking his humanity, becoming a vampire;
-In Part 2, Kars became a the ultimate lifeform;
-In Part 3 DIO managed to completely fuse with Jonathan's body, making "The World" more powerful;
-In Part 4, Kira acquired "Bites the Dust", an ability that helped him stay anonymous when he was backed into a corner;
-In Part 6, Pucci ascended and attained the ultimate stand, "Made in Heaven", with which he intended to reset the universe;
-In Part 7, Valentine had his wish come true by having Diego bring the holy corpse to the vault in New York.
Only Diavolo didn't get what he was after. All the other villains managed to achieve their goals and were defeated, despite their new, seemingly overpowered, abilities. Part 5's end left me feeling that Silver Chariot Requiem was the main villain of the part. Now, you could argue that Araki wanted to try something new, or that Diavolo's Requiem ability would be so overpowered, that it would make him truly invincible (and it may well be true), but I just feel disappointed that he was quickly disposed of at the end. He was also one of the more complex characters (the thing with the split personality and all that).
Anyway, this was just my opinion on the matter, just food for thought. Can't wait for Part 8's villain to be revealed.
But what would his requiem ability be ?
I mean I can't think of anything , since he already has a time ability
Also I don't think Kira really achieved his goal
Because his goal was living a quiet life ,Not gaining another ability
It could be argued that Diavolo's goal is erasing every thing about his past and getting rid of the traitors ,But if he achieves this goal ,it would mean that Giorno would have to be dead ,Which basically makes the end even worse
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou Yea I see your point. That's why I said that maybe Araki realised Diavolo would be overpowered if he acquired the arrow, and I agree, he probably would be.
As for the thing with Kira, I meant that "Bites The Dust" was an ability born from his frustration of being found out, and the arrow of course. His ultimate goal was living a quiet life, and this new ability momentarily aided him and would have probably provided him with that life if he had won. It's the same as with DIO. His real goal was to rule the world, but he first needed to make him and his stand stronger by completely merging with Jonathan's body.
your videos are really great bro I love them. Keep it up!
I have this stand idea
Stand Name: Backspacer
Namesake: The PearlJam album of the same name
Stand Ability: Touch an object and delete it from existence, then is able to remotely bring the object back into existence; essentially sending it forward in time. If anything is within the same space of the object then it becomes fused with it because it will force its way into existence. Also, if there was any kind of force acting on it when it was touched, then it continues right where it left off once brought back. So for instance if you threw a ball and with the last touch of your finger made it disappear then once it was brought back it would continue with the same momentum.
I think this could be interesting because of how complex the ability is and also because of how useful it could be. Imagine you're fighting someone and make a plank of wood disappear so their leg falls into it, then making it reappear, fusing them to the wood.
Couldn't they work together? Of course, till the boss is killed, then they are going to kill each other after that. Like Kaleb I.A. says.
Great video Kaleb! I'd love if you could make a video about what would happen in a part with a Joestar as a villain 😋
My loyalty only goes to my goth dad risotto
Your italian is getting better man
Is the narcotics team on the gang heirarchy image because if they are we might get to see a purple haze feedback ova.
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Wait. Murolo is a capo in the anime?!
Murolo actually exists?
MGS:3 Snake Eater AND JoJo? You really have taste.
i love mommy bruno's stand
La squandra and Bruno's squad allying are like if a drug cartel and an anti-drug campaign allied-
Am I going crazy or can you also hear from 0:00 to 0:57 very faintly in the background the Recollection theme from the Class Trial of Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney the first game? I can holy hear a faint melody which souns really really similar playing really quietly, if you ignore the voice
It sucks that La Squadra and Bruno's team basically had the same goal but never really realized it because their methods were different. I woulda loved to see even just Risotto join up with the gang. I wish he got more screen time
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Can you do a what if series for jojo like what if koichi was an enemy in part 4 or if fugo never left
imagine if la squadra engaged later so they'd know that brunos' team is after boss so they would teamup
Can you do a speculation on what of the other pillar men became the ultimate life form instead of kars
Kendrick Lamar - LOYALTY.
On the topic of Squalo and Tiziano, I feel like they're more loyal to each other than the boss. I'm basing this on Squalo's reaction to Tizi's death.
Hey kaleb you know that the marvel universe and jojos are definitely connected. I mean look clearly in the key for coco jumbos with is the reality stone creating a reality inside the turtle.
Wait maybe the key was made the same way as the gauntlet
as soon as you brought up Metal Gear Solid
i clicked the sub lol
road to 100k baby
Great vid 🍒
Would you do a vid on all villians of jojo fighting each other, except pillar men cuz op?
Almost at 100k my lad
I got Loyalty and Royalty inside my dna...
wait this isn’t that video?
What would Ultimate Lifeform Wamuu look like?
He'd likely make himself *HUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGEEE* and give himself eyes on all his muscles, and maybe a few weapon upgrades. Aside from that, he'd still just be Wamuu.
La Squadra would not have worked with Bruno's group due to one thing: La Squadra wanted control of the drug trade. Bruno and Giorno's motivation was to end it and turn Passione into more of a protection gang and not necessarily one out for profit.
So when we're given that hierarchy picture, whose under the boss? Doppio?
Funny valentine knows a thing or two about loyalty 😔....
Hey kaleb. Heres a thought. What if brunos group and la squadra teamed up to defeat the boss? Maybe there couldve been a scenario where they saw in the same light? Would be interesting to see what the ending would be like if that happened
Question is, who would get the arrow?
@@metal42 thats the kind of stuff i would like to be theorized. Things like: what would the boss do if they didnt bring trish to him? Or: would the boss be able to kill abbacchio that easily? Or maybe he doesnt even kill abbacchio. Maybe the polnareff situation plays out completely differently.
I think it would also be interesting to see how the stands would work together with each other to take down his personal bodyguards
@@tbd8941 Yeah those scenarios would be different, buccellati's zippers and risiotto's iron might be a good combination.
What happened with the things giorno gives life deflect atacks?
Araki forgot.
Bro why did u spoil the love triangle of The boss, Buccaraiti, and Risotto
Finally someone pronunces Passione right
What I found weird was when Bruno offered his teammates a chance to back out. I would have assumed at that point Diavolo would have eliminated everyone who had made contact with Bruno including family. Often time criminals hold people's family hostage to prevent people from defecting.
But if Diavolo really wanted all the loyalty to him than he would have swapped team members or leaders around to prevent them from becoming loyal to each other more than himself.
Wonder if the other teams besides la squadra and passione are stand users.
Always wondered tho why Bruno immediately assumed "THE BOSS WANTS TO KILL HIS OWN DAUGHTER??" in the elevator.
I mean, it could've been another La Squadra member attacking? He kinda jumped to all sorts of conclusions for the sake of the plot.
exactly, when I saw that scene for the first time I was like "Oh, so that creepy boss dude of La Squadra attacked Bruno". I also think the boss could have killed Trish by fisting her just like what he did with Bruno later that episode or he could have taken the whole body of Trish instead of letting just a hand
That happens a lot in JJBA, almost everyone have some sort of extraordinary deductive skills. Pretty much like that of Near from Death Note.
steel samurai theme?
Ilove this amazing explination
That intro ost...
Man I miss Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney.
I still wonder what kind of relation the Boss and Carne had for him to go on a suicide mission...
The reasoning is explained in Purple Haze Feedback.
Melone was Snake-Eaten
I’ll let myself out
Only love and support for my boss Diavolo
can you analyse Novel Kars?
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Still love the vids
Edit:this isn’t edited
If Hermit purple is Joesept stand why he not die when it broke
Because I think his Stand is more of an ability that takes the appearance of purple vine rather than the conventional humanoid form of Stands
5:20 унитаз печали ?
unita speciale
You ever play mgs3d?
I find Risotto my favorite Jojo antagonist, and that Risotto and La Squadra were offed too early for such unique characters. Oh well. Would've been cool to see Risotto fight Doppio later on and win, rather than him guaranteed to lose because Doppio is new and important, and to see Risotto achieve his goal of killing the boss would have been satisfying.
Loyalty is the 3rd rule of friendship
*Dutch Van Der Linde has entered the chat*
If Ultimate Kars can't die, then wouldn't he hard counter Giorno's stand?
Ultimate kars would have died from a lava bath if he stayed in it after a few minutes. So GER can kill kars.
Korega waga kingu curimsonu no noryouku
In an parallel u niverse we would have a la squaddra +Brunos Team teamup
Make a video on prosciutto.
What about loyalty