Nashville Steam: NC&SL No. 576 Locomotive Restoration
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- A tour of the Nashville Steam restoration site where they are working on restoring the Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis Railway No. 576 steam locomotive. Vintage Machinery is currently involved in a collaboration with Nashville Steam to restore a stoker engine for this locomotive.
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Wow!!!!, they are going to need a big Evaporust tank to put that engine in.
Rollie Kelly I was thinking the same thing.
Actually, cleaning prior to major (Class) repair work was sometimes done in partially buried tanks containing a circulated heated lye solution. I know the PRR did so at it's heavy repair shops in Altoona PA. Here's a link to a picture of the process in action at Altoona: www.hmdb.org/PhotoFullSize.asp?PhotoID=197193 Essentially, the locomotive (stripped of any salvageable parts that will be reused that could be harmed by the lye) was picked up by two bridge cranes, moved over to the vat, and lowered completely submerging it for some period of time, likely 24 hours minimum to possibly several days. This was done with all the major assemblies still in place prior to the locomotive being completely stripped for overhaul.
Go ahead and say it. You're stoked to be working on this project.
That one piece cast frame is amazing
I grew up on a farm next to a CB&Q right of way, while steam was still in use. I used to pick up coal along the right of way and carry it home in an old grease bucket. There was never that much loose coal laying around, but it was #1 stoker coal - and the stuff that they sold in town was #2 coal. I don't know that the coal grade mattered that much, but I suspect what my dad really wanted was for me to just go away and not bother him for awhile.
Steam coal burns hotter and cleaner than house coal. I run a scale traction engine and house coal is too cool to make suitable heat, plus it produces acrid smoke where steam coal has minimal smoke.
Fascinating project! Thanks to groups like Nashville Steam a wonderful time in history is being preserved. I remember as a young boy seeing steam engines of this type in actual service, the sound can never be forgotten. Please help this project by donating when you can.
I think Union Pacific finished a Big Boy a few months ago...ah..i don't want to presume, but i'm pretty sure i heard about it online. I think it was 4014.
This is a very handsome steam locomotive and it is interesting to see the maintenance labor that is involved with repairing steam locomotives, i am eager to see this locomotive return to operation again. NC&StL engine 576 is the sole surviving Dixie J3 class 4-8-4 engine and the J3's had a unique appearance with their streamlined casing design ; it will be incredible to see engine 576 operate again underneath its own power as this is a unique design 4-8-4 type locomotive.
When they needed help they went to the expert.
Glad you are able to assist in the preservation of another engine.
Thanks for sharing.
I've been watching your projects regularly for some years now and I thoroughly enjoy them. We spoke (via Email) a while back about the Nashville Steam project and I am overjoyed that the videos are now coming out. As I may have told you then, I was born and raised in Nashville and was a frequent visitor to Centennial Park. My Grandfather and Father both worked for NC&StL and I worked for L&N, its descendant. I have played on and in the steam engine since I was a child. My children, now grown, also have visited but by then, you couldn't actually board her. I'm excited to see such an important piece of my history recieve such love and devotion and I look forward to more videos.
One small "correction". The name of the railroad is "NC&StL". Note the small "T". It's pronounced "NC and Saint L".
Now I know what that stroker engine was for. Thank you Keith
I played on that locomotive in Centennial Park, back before they had it all fenced off. Excited to see it being restored.
Fantastic overview of the restoration! Thank you, Keith!!
Living in Gallatin I remember going and seeing it at the park in Nashville. Saw on the news when it was moved and wondered what was happening with it. Will be keeping up[ with it now and look forward to seeing on the rails again.
Everything that goes into making a locomotive move, is absolutely incredible.
Keith,
What a fun exciting project. I envy you
Gary 76-Year-Old Home-Shop-Machinist in North-West Arkansas
Looking forward to seeing the restoration of this steam engine. I have been going to the park since i was a little boy and admiring this engine.
visited a few times. one of my favorite little museums. thanks for the tour.
Great tour of the 576! Thanks for working partnering with us on this project.
Now the Schenectady ALCO plant site is a steel sales plant at one end and a hotel/casino at the other. I looked at their site, I have a suggestion for funding, have them look at getting some ALCO HO scale units in correct livery to sell as well. There are a lot of enthusiasts who buy items like that to help fund projects. We did that when the BLHS restored a D&H unit for excursion use.
Loving it !!
Regards
Robert
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Great project, Keith...glad you can help out.
Looking forward to the series.
hopefully you will post more about this stoker engine.. after the boring the videos stopped..9 is an odd number.. never stop on an odd number.. waiting to see more videos..
Fantastic. This engine is close to home.i was happy when they started the restoration project. Glad you will be involved
I hope to see it visit the Tennessee Valley Railroad at some point when restored
Thank you Keith - this is a wonderful collaboration and I am looking forward to learning more.
Keith - When I first started watching your channel, you were working on the steam locomotive at the museum. Enjoyed that very much. I am so happy to see you working on another steam locomotive. This looks like a great project. You will be busy for about 2 or 3 years !!!
2 to 3 years at least!
Keith, Thanks for help saving this piece of history
Adam Savage and many builders have just completed a mock up of a space craft door. It might be a good idea to contact him and see if that same crowd would be interested in making some of the smaller parts for this locomotive rebuild.
Ricochet Richard Adam Savage and steam engines. I want this.
This is an amazing machine I wish we had this sort of passion for steam engines over here we have our enthusiasts on steam but no where near the American passion these machines are amazing and I’m in awe of them the engineering was so far ahead of there time hand forged hand made I can’t believe the whole frame is one cast piece that’s a hell of a mould lol I’ve done some small casting and that’s difficult enough but to cast a whole steam train frame with built in air tanks now that’s skill and engineering at its best I hope you get the funding you need I can’t wait to see the finished article god bless
good to see that thing out of centennial park I know its been sitting THERE since I was a small kid... and Im 40 now
Actually the locomotive was placed in Sept, 1953 which means it was there a long time before your 40 year clock started.
Beautiful!
THANK YOU...for sharing.
So Now I have seen the Chattanooga Choo Choo. LOL
No. You have not. It is, however, a sight to behold and Chattanooga is an amazing place. You should visit. It's about 2 hours east of Nashville.
@@stephengraves3275 I Have been there years ago and I agree Chattanooga is a nice place
@@stephengraves3275he was joking
I wish I could be involved. If only to slap some paint on! Your hard work on your channel and web site has paid off in allowing you the oportunity to help restore historic machines.
So that's why it looks so good. 10 ish years of service. I was scratching my head, thinking, geesh, how in the world does this loco look so damn good despite being in the weather, having been abused by time and use...duh, this gal was fashionably late to the party. That's beyond awesome, there's likely less hackery on her, there's probably a lot of documentation, this project will be a breeze for a team like theirs. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's still hard, honest, honorable work, but still, this means she's going to be one heck of a long lived girl when it's all said and done.
Wishing I lived closer.
Built in 1943, I'm surprised it wasn't oil fired, but WW2 was going on and they needed all the oil for the military.
In that part of the country coal was very plentiful and relatively inexpensive.
Pretty cool video. Keep up the good work with the videos. LJL
I love seeing these steam locomotives being rasied form their sleep I know that abatement will not be cheap its close to 20k for a 0-6-0t I can imagine its going to cost a pretty penny
They still need another 1.5 million for the restoration.
@@bossmansal67 I know I'm with nrhs it's never cheap as fra wants it 100 safe no Gettysburg ever again
southern 207 hobbies What will it be like if steam locomotives are brought back into the mainstream; being built, designed and manufactured around the world? That would be magnificent.
@@reneastle8447 well there are groups like the T1 trust who are bringing back a Pennsylvania T1 4-4-4-4 back form scratch and honestly there far better then these diesels as they can make it home even on one cylinder
southern 207 hobbies That’s fascinating. Steam locomotives are gonna make a triumphant comeback thanks to the Retro Decade Revival Project. Our goal is to bring real entertainment, true talents, pure originality and diversity, old school and more back into the public mainstream, starting with the 1980s. That means steam trains, freight and passenger are gonna be brought back into the mainstream as they become part of mainline railroad transportation once again as they did in the good old days.
enjoyed...
I want you to compete with the T1. go steam competition!
Any time you want to post a video of some phasse of steam powered railroading, I'm all aboard. I'm old enough to have stood on the station platform while a steam locomotive and it's freight cars turned my penny into copper foil.
So it was in use for only 11 years? 10 up north then one year in TN? That doesn't seem like much use, but it might be. Glad to see it being restored!
It's been sitting in weather for 70 years. Probably painted once in a while but nothing more. In active use it'd be stored in a shed and gotten regular maintenance.
The locomotive never ran anywhere except on the NC&St.L mostly in Tennessee and down to Atlanta, Georgia
So this is a 4-8-4 locomotive. I've seen (photographed and video'd) the UP844 , also a 4-8-4 but FEF-3 class, and this one seems to be a little smaller. Maybe it's due to not standing next to it...
Height reference... At 5:00, the camera looks straight through *under* the boiler! Then the guy up on the platform appears to be a little taller than the boiler, and that platform is a little higher than the bottom of the boiler. So in round #s it's 12'.
I think it's also a 'slightly wider than normal' lens, slight fisheye, that makes things further away look smaller.
Great tour Keith & Shane; such an awesome & worthy project!! Another way to directly support the restoration of No. 576 is to purchase your own copy of The Duchess (Queen of the Dixie Line) by Marty Stuart and Harry Stinson - it's a seriously fine song & just $5.76 - www.nashvillesteam.org/product/the-duchess-queen-of-the-dixie-line-marty-stuart-harry-stinson-digital-download/
Ha! The hammering is less distracting or annoying than most of the music on some utube channels.
You, and many other youtube providers, quit apologizing for various noises in your background. You are in working areas. Just shoot your videos
As they take the unit down, they might have the need for your services Keith.
Can not wait to she get running again
I have pictures standing next to this old steam train
Excuse my cynicism but I'm not sure that Nashville will be able to support keeping that beast running. They'll have to take it on tours to get a larger audience involved.
How on earth do you make a single casting that big?
In the ground with a lot of cores.
Blumf7. I will opt for the simple answer, With great difficulty .
Think BIG. For more look up Facebook, Machinist Museum. For example, think about the lathes that turned 60' gun barrels. (Some still being used to make oil well drill rods.) commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:141-R_locomotive_one-piece_cast_steel_frame.jpg
Great to see more of these locos getting love! They are working on another big mainline steam loco here C&O 2716 at Ravenna Ky. th-cam.com/video/y5tlipooM2Y/w-d-xo.html
I guess you tackle a job like that the same way you would eat an elephant "one bite or step at a time". It is mind boggling the design and engineering that went into those machines. All of it done without computers. A guy sitting at a drafting table for hours on end with his slide rule and drafting instruments. Hope they can make it a reality........
Just curious.Where did the stoker engine get it's steam from?
From the locomotive boiler. There is a steam turret (manifold) on top of the boiler in front of the cab with valves and piping to different appliances on the locomotive. Just simply open a valve and it sends steam down the pipe to the appliance.
Hand stoked till enough steam was developed to run the stoker. No big deal on a daily basis if that.
@@SirDeanosity I understood that by the time most of these big mainline locos were in service that the roundhouses all had steam plants that could provide steam to operate a locomotive or its accessories without a fire in the firebox.
@@bcbloc02 That is correct. The powerhouse was an integral part of any big roundhouse or shops complex.
NOW I get it! Keith's been calling it a stoker ENGINE. But it's not the WHOLE 'engine.' It's head (not seen in vid yet, I think,) cylinders, rods, crank, and PTO. But no firebox or boiler because the steam is piped in from elsewhere. Is that right?
Hang on; C4K Inc is coming ;D $
What is the contractor coming to do?
So...how's the locomotive going and how much left for it to steam?
I wish I had more money to send them
Since Keith is working on the stoker engine I assume that means they intend to still run on coal . Union Pacific decided to switch the big boy to oil fired during its restoration, is there a reason not to do that with this locomotive?
I dunno....maybe you spend less by keeping it coal?
Oil is easy to supply, there are heating oil depots everywhere. Just dive up a tanker truck and start pumping. There is no longer any infrastructure to supply coal to locomotives. You could probably get some decent grades in the east but using an excavator or crane with a clamshell to move it from a dump truck to the tender is clumsy.
Is this a 4-8-4 , otherwise known as a Northern.
Sir, a railroad that ran in Tennessee, Ala, KY and Ga would never allow such a hideous term to be placed on their locomotives. The NC&St.L called her a DIXIE.
Terry L. Coats When the 4-8-4 was designed, the first railroad to buy these locos was the Northern Pacific railroad, thus the name Northern. Those of us in Montana had nothing to do with the civil war that is why the term hideous is extremely insulting to me.
I’m kinda worried about the locomotive because an F3 tornado recently hit and killed 24 people
pumped?? you mean STOKED!!
A 4-8-4 (if I have that right) would haul some serious freight. Nice keeping it together. I was told yesterday, by some half wit, that history didn't matter. 😂🤣😂🤣
Really fascinating but each time your host turned to look at what he was describing all my old ears could hear was ‘mumble, mumble, ‘gearbox’, mumble, ‘dry steam’ mumble, years and years’... I know that’s mostly me being the problem but wireless mics aren’t too awful expensive anymore?
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I fear they are seriously underestimating the finances that will be needed to complete the project - I feature it will be more on the order of $5M than $2M. See the issues Western Maryland Scenic Railroad are having in restoring the former C&O 1309 - the last new steam locomotive put in service in the USA.
$2 Million wow, that’s twice what I was guessing.........
I think that's partly because this one needs a lot less rebuild (as compared to rework) than most others. It's weathered but not worn out, for instance the 3M mile bearings that have only 500K on them.
The locomotive was place away in great shape. It had just had it 5-year mandatory re-fluing (that we will have to do again even though it was not operated after the flues were reworked.) $500,000 of the $2 million was an escrow account.
Where’s your hard hat Keith?
Never fails not to finish one project before jumping on another project.
Is anything getting done at all from start to finish?
And why not use the “amazing” sandblaster which was promoted before?
Not so fantastic after all...
What are these Billionaires doing?!!!