@@JazzOfTheStinson i think it's mainly because it's a waste of time and like he said in the video not everyone has all day to sit around playing runescape. not a dig at anyone, maybe you're retired or have a good life to live and play all day. No harm there, people are just at different points in life and don't have the time. I'm a straight noob i haven't done any real bosses but i almost maxed out my combat and haven't even quested a bunch. barely have like 190qp. It was easy to TH-cam it but finding one of the 3 gods you have to kill was a hassle and annoying. Wasnt even hard to kill just an RNG thing on if they spawn at one of their 20 spawn points.
LOL it’s funny people don’t see that Jagex only did this because the prior cape brought in no revenue whatsoever and was achievable by almost everyone. It was no benefit to them so why not give people the same cape that’s achievable by almost everyone but they can make some money off of it? People will buy bonds to sell and get that cape fast. Smart move actually. It’s the same just they get to make money. Nothing different, people are just upset because they had to spend the time to get theirs and now people can buy the new one that’s better.
The actual problem is that the upgrade compared to the other BIS capes is very underwhelming and the obvious power creep and inability to properly balance around the Shadow is finally rearing it's ugly head.
Yeah a 1% upgrade is pretty much nothing. Not even remotely worth the effort of getting the cape. Unless you’re using a shadow in TOA I don’t think there’s ever a situation where it gives a max hit.
I think the real reason it sucks ks that it gives -2 praye bonus for no reason, well the reason is fkin shadow but jagex cant balance mge at all anyway...
I would be down for that atleast his logic is consistent. Also some of us have a job and kids and don't have time to grind XP so let us bring sequel of fortune and MTX like rs3.😂😂
from what i know this wont replace mage arena 2 cape but is more stepping stone towards it as i believe jagex said this so this cape wont be bis endgame wise anyway.
It makes sense most players are upset that it’ll be tradable because they are bad at the game and want to just pay someone to do the content for them once and try to make people think they’re not bad at the game. Meanwhile the good players prefer tradable because they’ll just camp the content and sell the capes to make billions.
OSRS has always been in a strange place in terms of BiS items to balancing. I don’t particularly care that it’s tradable, but on the other hand I don’t have a problem behind items being quest-locked either. I think context matters here. Inferno requires so much practice just to complete once to acquire an Inferno cape (BiS melee) compared to the quest to acquire the Imbued God cape (previous BiS magic) who’s only difficulty is avoiding pkers. I’d say there’s more discussion to be had on the disparity in difficulty for content-locked items of similar tiers.
I agree, making stuff untradeable is a nightmare for more “casual” players, as a veteran try hard player that loves to complete hard content, I know most people are like me. Those people just end up rule breaking to get the untradeables anyways, so why not just put an end to the black market? RuneScape is hard enough, not everyone is going to enjoy/be good at every piece of content in the game, if they want to grind zulrah for hours and hours to unlock that cape, why not? Plus it’s a good experiment to see if this theory works for future items.
I my personal opinion, i wouldnt be opposed to a new second bis cape that was tradable, but untradable capes have a status that i really like. Im not for a tradable bis cape.
@jacobfernandez6055 never said mage cape had status, and considering the majority of runescape players don't have a fire cape and still consider it a very important milestone, I'd say calling firecape low status bullshit. My point is that bis capes should be something that require a milestone. If I can buy bonds to get every bis item then this game becomes a joke (IMO). I have no problem having a new bis cape, but damn I want to be able to get it from skill, and not grinding days for 100+m to afford one because the market is fucked.
@JazzOfTheStinson you said "untradable capes have a statis that I really like" Besides spelling status wrong, mage cape is an untradable cape therefore you did infact say it had a statis that you like. Also who doesn't have their firecape now adays? Saying the majority of players can't do fight caves is crazy.
@@jacobfernandez6055 lol ok you got me on the autocorrect, but i didnt say the mage cape in particular. in fact i hate that it isnt hard to get but i dont think it should be a buyable. Also lots of people don't have a fire cape. Its just as bold of you to say everyone has a fire cape as it is for me to say that the average casual can't/hasnt even tried.
Normally I’d agree and I don’t want to be rude, but on a game like osrs there is no status. Nobody cares lol. If they see you with a difficult to get cape they aren’t impressed they just think you’re a nerd with too much free time. Maybe ten years ago, sure, but not anymore. Not today.
If you’ve noticed jagex has been trying pretty hard on ruining any type of black market osrs. Boosting is against the rules now they’ve cracked down on irl trading and botting a lot duel arena is gone, death matches are banable. Etc etc. I think this is a good way to prevent cape boosters like mentioned in the beginning of the video
Absolutely fantastic news haha. Dunno why saddos would be sad about this, oh no people can play how they want and not have to buy it off a random guy in the GE for more than the max cash stack or grinding for hundreds of hours to max combat stats for a 0.0001% chance to get it from a raid
I’m more upset at how shit it is as an upgrade in comparison to the quiver and infernal cape. Basically, if you don’t have a shadow then it’s not even an upgrade to the imbued god cape.
@@KingOfTheBeez yea bud, that’s factually incorrect on so many levels. Have you never heard of merching? You can obtain BIS without ever leaving the GE. So no, in no way shape or form do you have to be good at the game to have BIS gear.
Crazy how nerds complain the bis cape to be tradeable, but 90-95% of infernal capes are bought capes anyways 😂 just go take a look at bh.. so many pures 60-70 cb with inferno/quiver that couldn’t even understand the mechanics to fight Scurrius lmao
Correction: Mage arena 1 cape (untradable) Mage arena 2 cape (untradable) Eldridge Veil (Tradable) If they added a tradable upgrade to all the capes then so be it, just require the highest version that’s untradable for all the cape and its fine
I honestly hate that capes are locked behind these long ass wave based games. I’m so sick of jad and don’t want to spend the time learning the inferno I have a life and stuff. It’s not fun
That's what do is just grind and train my skills. But Iv got friends and others telling me to do this and that. Meaning do quests and train this skill and that skill b4 u do that skill haha
Yes they can and did quit in the past. Have you heard about eoc??? Have you heard about OSRS HD plugin??? The only thing this shitty community has is thier ability to quit thr game anytime Jagex fucks up otherwise Jagex wouldve already added MTX to this game
To be honest, this sounds like the same exact argument that RWTer’s use. “Not everyone has time for xyz,” “I have a life.” It really seems like you just pulled this out of your ass to make this Short, to be honest.
the best part of runescape is discovering game mechanics and being able to do things faster and better in order to get to 99 faster. the skill itself should have game tick manipulation but i feel like its all been patched. take for instance mining iron ore. if you click iron rock and then another iron rock or something like that you get the iron ore faster. click manipulation gets nerfed with trees for some reason
My guy, you're not right about like half the stuff you said... first off, what skill are you talking about that should have tick manip? The video is about a new mage cape reward? Most tick manip has not been removed? The iron thing is wrong too, Mining is already a 3 tick action, you're just fooling yourself because you're mining during the turn animation and previous mining swings, and tick manip is actually STRONGER on trees, what do you think 2tick teaks is?? You say the game is about learning how to do things faster but youve only listed wrong or misleading info...
Facts ev I love the game but I don’t have time too grind out all the stuff I wanna get the quiver an infernal but I just don’t have the time too learn it
@@ProcessHF its a downgrade for pking since its no magic def which means people land freezes on you more often then the bonus from the cape will allow you to land on them, for general pvm it will be better unless you really need the def.
I personally don't see the issue. The old bis is still a great free option. Only now you got a better one if you are willing to use the money. This is basically the Torso vs BCP. Anyways, if this is such a problem, then why not make it so you need the new item to upgrade the old bis magic cape then? There. Problem solved. Sure the upgrade item can still be bought in ge, but so can the avernic hilt and people seems ok with that. At least now you would need work for the former bis cape to get the new. Surely this should be the better solution if you are against a standalone tradable bis cape
After not playing for 10yrs I just bought a maxed acc with infernal and 1.2B for only $1300.. which makes it way better than the 1300+ hrs I would’ve spent otherwise
@ first it was full transfer I have full recovery and there is insurance on it for 6 months. Either way I’ve spent more money on other recreational things. Who cares
I dont care if thats how you wanna flex, but now that all the skills and the hardest content is completed, whats the point? What are you gonna do now? If you dont have time to do that, you def dont have time to get pets or collection logs, so what was the point?
@ just to pk that’s all I liked back in the day. Never liked questing or skilling or bossing. Don’t care for pets or collection log all boring to me. Enjoy yourself
Its weird that people consider their current bis mage cape to be a skilled feat when it isnt
Yet people still won't do it
@@JazzOfTheStinson i think it's mainly because it's a waste of time and like he said in the video not everyone has all day to sit around playing runescape. not a dig at anyone, maybe you're retired or have a good life to live and play all day. No harm there, people are just at different points in life and don't have the time. I'm a straight noob i haven't done any real bosses but i almost maxed out my combat and haven't even quested a bunch. barely have like 190qp. It was easy to TH-cam it but finding one of the 3 gods you have to kill was a hassle and annoying. Wasnt even hard to kill just an RNG thing on if they spawn at one of their 20 spawn points.
B.. b... but I had to risk 100k in the wilderness to get it....
Ikr, dead world easy npc kill cape is bis right now😂
LOL it’s funny people don’t see that Jagex only did this because the prior cape brought in no revenue whatsoever and was achievable by almost everyone. It was no benefit to them so why not give people the same cape that’s achievable by almost everyone but they can make some money off of it? People will buy bonds to sell and get that cape fast. Smart move actually. It’s the same just they get to make money. Nothing different, people are just upset because they had to spend the time to get theirs and now people can buy the new one that’s better.
Nobody is upset except the weirdos who refuse to allow the game to grow
yep thats exactly what i just said XD
@@no_mnom it is a god cape upgrade, read the blog post.
@@nozst0keit did say that in the video if you read
Bring back the wildernis !
Its just guys who play 38hours a day who cry about this
The best in slot cape for ev would be a graceful cape
The actual problem is that the upgrade compared to the other BIS capes is very underwhelming and the obvious power creep and inability to properly balance around the Shadow is finally rearing it's ugly head.
Yeah a 1% upgrade is pretty much nothing. Not even remotely worth the effort of getting the cape. Unless you’re using a shadow in TOA I don’t think there’s ever a situation where it gives a max hit.
people crying powercreep just need to get over it. all that happens is the shit comes out but it comes out with weird and highly specific niche uses.
These are the same sweaty nerds who gatekeep inferno by saying you aren't allowed to get your 1st cape unless it's a sub50 without sgs
I think the real reason it sucks ks that it gives -2 praye bonus for no reason, well the reason is fkin shadow but jagex cant balance mge at all anyway...
-2 is pretty small to be fair and most of the time you are safespotting while you mage anyways.
If they add a buyable cape that beats out Infernal Cape, then the community will truly seethe.
let ‘em, the small percentage of people with infernal are normally too addicted to care and/or bought the cape with credit cards anyway 😂
Inferno really isn't that hard these days on a main. People are just bad and refuse to try to get better.
tbf at this point infernal cape might as well be a buyable cape
@ exactly man, these capes cost what like $50? 😂
@@pwypkthey arleady are.. take a look at all the low lvl pures in pvp/bh.. they all have infernal cape and 99% of them bought it.
They should have made the cape an upgrade item for the mage arena 2 cape
It literally is…
it literaly is like quad rune pouch but buyable
I'm just so glad we still have this game
Make infernal and quiver buyable too! Some of us can’t spend hours to learn the mechanics of something we’d be doing 1 fking time
I would be down for that atleast his logic is consistent. Also some of us have a job and kids and don't have time to grind XP so let us bring sequel of fortune and MTX like rs3.😂😂
from what i know this wont replace mage arena 2 cape but is more stepping stone towards it as i believe jagex said this so this cape wont be bis endgame wise anyway.
I was amped at first then I found out the mage cape doesn’t increase your max hit.
Aged like fine wine
I don't think this cape was supposed to ever be a inferno/quiver equivalent. It looks like it was always meant to be a stepping stone
It makes sense most players are upset that it’ll be tradable because they are bad at the game and want to just pay someone to do the content for them once and try to make people think they’re not bad at the game. Meanwhile the good players prefer tradable because they’ll just camp the content and sell the capes to make billions.
i promise you most players are not upset.
If it's random, it should be buyable.
OSRS has always been in a strange place in terms of BiS items to balancing. I don’t particularly care that it’s tradable, but on the other hand I don’t have a problem behind items being quest-locked either. I think context matters here. Inferno requires so much practice just to complete once to acquire an Inferno cape (BiS melee) compared to the quest to acquire the Imbued God cape (previous BiS magic) who’s only difficulty is avoiding pkers. I’d say there’s more discussion to be had on the disparity in difficulty for content-locked items of similar tiers.
Couldn't imagine using the GE
I really wish they made a tradable item that could only be used after an insane amount of pvm kills to unlock it
Tbh I think it should be an upgrade to the current BIS magic cape. Guild the MA2 cape?
Literally everything you can that's bis is buyable so what makes a difference if a cape is buyable now
I agree, making stuff untradeable is a nightmare for more “casual” players, as a veteran try hard player that loves to complete hard content, I know most people are like me. Those people just end up rule breaking to get the untradeables anyways, so why not just put an end to the black market? RuneScape is hard enough, not everyone is going to enjoy/be good at every piece of content in the game, if they want to grind zulrah for hours and hours to unlock that cape, why not? Plus it’s a good experiment to see if this theory works for future items.
The riot isnt about the cape, its about the membership changes
Membership increases..thoughts?
People are arguing that MA2 is a hard thing to do. Can't compare MA2 to Inferno or Colosseum
I my personal opinion, i wouldnt be opposed to a new second bis cape that was tradable, but untradable capes have a status that i really like. Im not for a tradable bis cape.
Current mage cape has no status, assembler has no status, fire cape has low status
@jacobfernandez6055 never said mage cape had status, and considering the majority of runescape players don't have a fire cape and still consider it a very important milestone, I'd say calling firecape low status bullshit. My point is that bis capes should be something that require a milestone. If I can buy bonds to get every bis item then this game becomes a joke (IMO).
I have no problem having a new bis cape, but damn I want to be able to get it from skill, and not grinding days for 100+m to afford one because the market is fucked.
@JazzOfTheStinson you said "untradable capes have a statis that I really like"
Besides spelling status wrong, mage cape is an untradable cape therefore you did infact say it had a statis that you like.
Also who doesn't have their firecape now adays? Saying the majority of players can't do fight caves is crazy.
@@jacobfernandez6055 lol ok you got me on the autocorrect, but i didnt say the mage cape in particular. in fact i hate that it isnt hard to get but i dont think it should be a buyable.
Also lots of people don't have a fire cape. Its just as bold of you to say everyone has a fire cape as it is for me to say that the average casual can't/hasnt even tried.
Normally I’d agree and I don’t want to be rude, but on a game like osrs there is no status. Nobody cares lol. If they see you with a difficult to get cape they aren’t impressed they just think you’re a nerd with too much free time. Maybe ten years ago, sure, but not anymore. Not today.
If you’ve noticed jagex has been trying pretty hard on ruining any type of black market osrs. Boosting is against the rules now they’ve cracked down on irl trading and botting a lot duel arena is gone, death matches are banable. Etc etc. I think this is a good way to prevent cape boosters like mentioned in the beginning of the video
not all of us are bad at the game, don't defend noobs
Some of us touch grass
@Dontwannahearit unlucky
cant wait to get that cape
I mean it's very slightly better than imbued god capes.
Wait I thought infernal and quiver were already buyable … 😏
The bis mage cape should be hard content to unlock not buyable. Needs to be same as the other ones.
Absolutely fantastic news haha. Dunno why saddos would be sad about this, oh no people can play how they want and not have to buy it off a random guy in the GE for more than the max cash stack or grinding for hundreds of hours to max combat stats for a 0.0001% chance to get it from a raid
I’m more upset at how shit it is as an upgrade in comparison to the quiver and infernal cape. Basically, if you don’t have a shadow then it’s not even an upgrade to the imbued god cape.
Where is pb gurg?
People are upset bc they can’t charge casuals to get them the cape
Yet more crap theyre adding to the game
How do we get one to sell ? 🤣
Yeah idk why people care, not everything you have needs to be a flex, let the people who don't have time to sweat have the cool shit too
Who cares if it’s tradable lol that just means people that aren’t that good or have no interest in the content aren’t forced to do it to get the cape
People who aren't good would never be able to afford BIS
@@KingOfTheBeez yea bud, that’s factually incorrect on so many levels. Have you never heard of merching? You can obtain BIS without ever leaving the GE. So no, in no way shape or form do you have to be good at the game to have BIS gear.
@@mcfly3175eh, merching is definitely a shape or form of the game. :')
nah watch them change it to a 1/10k untradeable drop rate for the new boss
Gagex forgetting 90% real players are ironscapers lmao
upset bout buyable cape cuz it will be cheaper to sell then when its untradable
Letsss goooo since I’m never getting fire cape
Who is up in arms about it?
Crazy how nerds complain the bis cape to be tradeable, but 90-95% of infernal capes are bought capes anyways 😂 just go take a look at bh.. so many pures 60-70 cb with inferno/quiver that couldn’t even understand the mechanics to fight Scurrius lmao
Melee:
-Fire Cape (Untradable)
-Infernal Cape (Untradable)
Range:
-Ava’s Assembler (Untradable)
-Dizana’s Quiver (Untradable)
Mage:
-Mage Arena 2 Cape (Untradable)
-Eldritch Veil (Tradable???)
Correction:
Mage arena 1 cape (untradable)
Mage arena 2 cape (untradable)
Eldridge Veil (Tradable)
If they added a tradable upgrade to all the capes then so be it, just require the highest version that’s untradable for all the cape and its fine
We found the guy making those reddit posts
this cape will be like 200k on ge
Bring an itam that is buyable so the people who work for a living buy bonds and make jadx money.
Sounds like a cash grab.
This!!! let the cape be buyable stop crying some of us work for a living and dont have time to endlessly grind a stupid hard boss kick rocks nerds.
I see more people upset it’s got a -2 prayer… you know… cause it’s DEMONIC
i love that we will have a storable negative prayer item for UIM because when you drop that ancient staff you no longer can easily do the master clue
oslo out here catching strays
@@The_Sansonite for sure dude the self admitted paedophile who soiled himself going for rank 2 smithing day record caught a “stray”
@@EVScape Didn't know about the other stuff my bad beast
Been playing for 20 years now, the concept of paying is foreign to me, but i can understand it. End game content is fun af
If only they would actually get rid of all the bots in the game. Then it might actually be fun
I honestly hate that capes are locked behind these long ass wave based games. I’m so sick of jad and don’t want to spend the time learning the inferno I have a life and stuff. It’s not fun
That's what do is just grind and train my skills. But Iv got friends and others telling me to do this and that. Meaning do quests and train this skill and that skill b4 u do that skill haha
Ill stick to my obby cape
Oh no, people have to get lucky.
Don't see the issue personally... with the amount of bought infernals /quivers /fire capes... only difference being its bought in game instead...
Sometimes I feel like saying ok. Pay me then haha
what is the community going to do? quite playing the game? i doubt it. suck it up nerds and just play the game you've played for 20 years
Yes they can and did quit in the past. Have you heard about eoc??? Have you heard about OSRS HD plugin???
The only thing this shitty community has is thier ability to quit thr game anytime Jagex fucks up otherwise Jagex wouldve already added MTX to this game
To be honest, this sounds like the same exact argument that RWTer’s use.
“Not everyone has time for xyz,” “I have a life.”
It really seems like you just pulled this out of your ass to make this Short, to be honest.
I just hope it doesnt look like shit
It’s going to be untradable 😂
the best part of runescape is discovering game mechanics and being able to do things faster and better in order to get to 99 faster. the skill itself should have game tick manipulation but i feel like its all been patched.
take for instance mining iron ore. if you click iron rock and then another iron rock or something like that you get the iron ore faster. click manipulation gets nerfed with trees for some reason
My guy, you're not right about like half the stuff you said... first off, what skill are you talking about that should have tick manip? The video is about a new mage cape reward? Most tick manip has not been removed? The iron thing is wrong too, Mining is already a 3 tick action, you're just fooling yourself because you're mining during the turn animation and previous mining swings, and tick manip is actually STRONGER on trees, what do you think 2tick teaks is?? You say the game is about learning how to do things faster but youve only listed wrong or misleading info...
@@quillianluna4875 2 tick teaking? ive seen it. anyways, i mean it doesnt matter
Facts ev I love the game but I don’t have time too grind out all the stuff I wanna get the quiver an infernal but I just don’t have the time too learn it
Colo runs take under an hour. With all the guides available on youtube, I spent more time learning TOA mechanics than I did quiver or inferno.
i don't give 2 shits its buyable, i give a shit that the cape is dogshit.
Yeees finally ironman btw
People are mostly upset because the cape is a downgrade
Not really other than the prayer bonus. Its a very small upgrade for what will probably be a high price tag obtained from end game content.
@@ProcessHF its a downgrade for pking since its no magic def which means people land freezes on you more often then the bonus from the cape will allow you to land on them, for general pvm it will be better unless you really need the def.
We all like to choose different paths this is a nice video
No longer tradable
Ironman don't care yhe slightest
Can promise you being a youthuba is not a real job..
jump in discord beast i'll show you my revenue
I personally don't see the issue. The old bis is still a great free option. Only now you got a better one if you are willing to use the money. This is basically the Torso vs BCP.
Anyways, if this is such a problem, then why not make it so you need the new item to upgrade the old bis magic cape then? There. Problem solved. Sure the upgrade item can still be bought in ge, but so can the avernic hilt and people seems ok with that. At least now you would need work for the former bis cape to get the new. Surely this should be the better solution if you are against a standalone tradable bis cape
Thats literally what this is XD
@@EVScape i misunderstood then. Thought you meant a completely new cape. If so then I even more so don't see the issue here.
Go back to farm task not likes
After not playing for 10yrs I just bought a maxed acc with infernal and 1.2B for only $1300.. which makes it way better than the 1300+ hrs I would’ve spent otherwise
Good luck when it gets recovered or locked
@ first it was full transfer I have full recovery and there is insurance on it for 6 months. Either way I’ve spent more money on other recreational things. Who cares
I dont care if thats how you wanna flex, but now that all the skills and the hardest content is completed, whats the point? What are you gonna do now? If you dont have time to do that, you def dont have time to get pets or collection logs, so what was the point?
@ just to pk that’s all I liked back in the day. Never liked questing or skilling or bossing. Don’t care for pets or collection log all boring to me. Enjoy yourself
It’s not even best in slot, it’s dog shit.
Bullshit
So many bougt infernos.. might aswell make bis buyable in game
The bought capes are so fuckin easy to see. The problem isn't the buying, it's jagex refusing to ban them.
Should of been Mage Arena 3 not some shit in varlamore
Nah we're seething over jagex price gouging